PAY FOR MY LAZINESS AND GLUTTONY

>>42182942
>implying /fit/ is employed and pays taxes

Report boogie shill threads

>>42182964
PAY FOR IT

>implying that it's not his fault that he's fat.
>implying that his mayo eating video was a one off
>implying that a GoFundMe is imminent
>implying that it costs so much to have a decent diet.

>>42182942
This is exactly why I'm against socializing healthcare or having mandatory healthcare like we have here in Germany. Fucking over the general public because a bunch of fat fucks just don't give a fuck about their own health. Actually, this is why I'm against socializing anything at all.

I'd let them die if it were up to me.

>>42182964
If that thought makes you feel better, then more power to you, anon.

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STOP MAKING BOOGIE THREADS FOR FUCKS SAKE.

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>>42183044
>germany
Health care should be the least of your worries.

>>42183044
> Fucking over the general public because a bunch of fat fucks just don't give a fuck about their own health
It goes both ways man.
You fuck general public by NOT giving them healthcare coz you're concern some fat retard will milk the system.
People that take care of themselves deserve healthcare, shit happens to EVERYBODY, no matter how healthy you live.
Thats like saying you want to ban food charity giveaways because few mid-class assholes will take from it, while ignoring it probably saved 1000 of people from starvation

>>42183080
The migrant crisis is due to welfare (i.e socialism). If our country wouldn't have welfare (or the other social benefits), then those migrants would just skip Germany and head straight to Sweden.

>>42183090
>Thats like saying you want to ban food charity giveaways
That's a false analogy. If you give money to a food charity, then you are doing that by choice and know what you're putting yourself into.

By socializing healthcare you are FORCED to help those fat fucks with no choice at all, i.e you have no control over where your money goes.

I'd rather have more control over my money and I would donate to certain charities which would support people truly in need, and not some selfish fat fucks who glutton themselves to death.

>>42183090
>Thats like saying you want to ban food charity giveaways
Socialized healthcare is not charity though. Charity is voluntary, socialism is forced. Being for socialized healthcare is being against freedom and that makes you a bad person.

>>42183152
You wont give to charity, you just like to say you would. Forcing you to give money for healthcare is the bast way to regulate it, even if 20% of your money is put into wrong people, you still save 80% of people from life of misery. Its well worth it

>>42183162
>Being for socialized healthcare is being against freedom and that makes you a bad person.
try harder troll

>>42183200
>try harder troll
It's the truth you socialist retard.

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Is it the same cunt that makes 5 boogie threads a day?

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>>42182942
I paid over 800 dollars last year to NOT have insurance.

>>42183044
Those sloppy fucks who get cancer or get injured in accidents all deserve what they got.

It is fucking amazing to me that people will opt into modern society and still say "yeah but fuck that guy, let him rot".

>>42183239

If even a couple of the tards complaining IN those threads bothered to report it it would get removed.

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0:26 seconds /fit/ BTFO

>>42183258
>just American things

>>42183281
ROLLING

>>42183200
>You wont give to charity
I would. The reason I don't give to charity is precisely because I'm heavily taxed already.

>Its well worth it
Nope. Take a look at the heavily government subsidized airport in Berlin and where all that money went.

>started construction in 2006
>still under construction and will not be opened in 2017

Fuck government subsidies. I'm paying for this shit. I'd rather have companies go bankrupt or not have that airport built at all than subsidizing them. We already have 2 functioning airports in Berlin: Tegel and Schönefeld.

This is what socialism does. It sounds GREAT on paper, but the implementation is too costly and wasteful.

If the government is pumping your ass full with money, then you don't give a shit how you spend it or what the result will be.

>>42183281
Rolling

>>42183318
I 100% promise you your healthcare system is better and less costly than the US system.

>>42183271
It is fucking amazing to me that people will opt into modern society and still say "yeah let's force people to pay for other people's healthcare".

>>42183090
>People that take care of themselves deserve healthcare
If they take care of themselves they already have healthcare, and they don't have to wait 2 months to see a doctor like in socialized systems.

>>42182942
If digits everyone in this thread will PAY

>>42183341
>less costly than the US system
The US performs the overwhelming majority of all medical R&D in the world.

We are in effect already subsidizing the entire world's healthcare by doing your research for you.

>>42183341
1) it's not better. Les costly, i dont know, but it's not better. Im from spain, when our king needed surgery, he went to the US, he didnt have his surgery here. Everybody knows that socialized healthcare is trash.

2) US system is expensive because it is regulated to death. Get govt out of the way and you get cheaper and better healthcare.

>>42183355
Nah, not really

>>42183397
Could you afford to fly to the US to see a world class specialist? I live in the US, I can barely afford to go see my primary care doctor when I have an actual problem.

>>42182942
when he winds up in the hospital because he can't afford his own doctors/insurance, then we actually will pay
hospitals treat everyone and it's paid for with our tax dollars

>>42183426
And your hospital bills

>>42183415
>I live in the US, I can barely afford to go see my primary care doctor when I have an actual problem.
At least you get to see a doctor. If you lived in europe you might have to wait months before you get to see a shitty doctor while you are taxed to death.

US healthcare is expensive because it's regulated to death. Free markets would fix that.

>>42183415
>I can barely afford to go see my primary care doctor

Get insurance you pleb. A single visit costs $15. Last time I had a problem, I got diagnosed and had surgery within the span of 2 weeks.

Honestly, unless you're a poorfag the US has the best healthcare on the planet.

>>42183488
This meme again? Yeah if it's not that urgent you might have to wait a little while, but guess what, you can still buy private insurance in Spain too.

>>42183492
If I didn't have decent insurance I wouldn't have a primary care doctor.

You do know that the #1 most likely reason you might go bankrupt is that you or a family member gets cancer, right?

>>42183547
>guess what, you can still buy private insurance in Spain too
Yeah, but you are forced to pay for the socialized shit too, retard.

>You do know that the #1 most likely reason you might go bankrupt is that you or a family member gets cancer, right?
So?

Why do Boogie threads get made, only kids care about E-celebs

>>42183547
>If I didn't have decent insurance
If you can't afford copay you definitely do not have good insurance.

>You do know that the #1 most likely reason you might go bankrupt is that you or a family member gets cancer, right?

FYI healthcare in other countries is not any cheaper, just borne by the state. American healthcare is expensive, but that's the fault of the AMA limiting doctors more than anything. American medical science is on the bleeding edge, which is why when cancer is cured, it will be an American university that does so. Until then, have fun paying to support pakis that want you dead ;)

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>"Can't afford healthcare"

Yet he can afford all those deluxe/ultimate editions of video games. Oh FFS...

>>42184806
Priorities, has no problem stuffing his face either. I have no sympathy for him.

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>>42183200
>you still save 80% of people from life of misery. Its well worth it

How is it well worth it?

I don't know those people, and I don't owe them a damn thing. What intrinsic value do I get from helping them? More handouts for single mothers, refugees, and BLM rioters?

>>42183281
rollin

>>42183044
Relax, Hitler

>>42183271
How is that amazing at all?

'''''Modern society''''' (as nebulous of a term as that is) comes with no prerequisites on what we should objectively do. You speak like someone who exclusively dwells on upvote enforced echochambers.

>>42184848
The health care policy he outlined is like the opposite of Nazi Germanys.

>>42182973
No

>>42184878
>Fucking over the general public because a bunch of fat fucks just don't give a fuck about their own health. Actually, this is why I'm against socializing anything at all.

>I'd let them die if it were up to me.

Sounds pretty Hitler'y to me

>>42182964

>Implying everyone on /fit/ has the same situation/beliefs

>>42184831
Are you using a comic from The Onion to support your argument?

>>42184899
>Sounds pretty Hitler'y to me
Thats because you know nothing about Hitler.

Nazi= National Socialist

Key word socialist. The economy was controlled by the govt way more than today in germany. That poster was arguing for less control.

>>42184831

>Humanity should live like a pack of baboons because I don't value my PEERS

Yes the emphasis is there to wind you up

>>42184831
I'm for people that need help getting help, like welfare recipients. I draw the line were it becomes a lifestyle. Welfare should be a safety net so people can get back on their feet and get off it. I'm for welfare deadlines, if you're still on it after a certain amount of time, you're done, and maybe it some circumstances those people can get extensions.

I used to work at an inner city grocery store, and would hear people bragging about generations of their family being on welfare. I got PISSED one time I had to bring grocery's to someones car and saw that I was bringing them to a BRAND NEW 2015 escalade.

>>42184899
>We don't say to the rich 'Give to the poor', we say 'German people, help each other'. Rich or poor, each one must help thinking, there's someone even poorer than I am, and I want to help them as a fellow countryman.

Hitler looked out for Germans (who agreed with him). The medical system was socialized in Nazi Germany.

>>42184937
Gotcha, Hitler didn't advocate for a pure gene pool and killed off the people who didn't fit his views just because he was a "socialist"

>>42184937
WOW you're the one who knows nothing about Hitler just because something is in the name doe not make it true. I will help you out "Hitler was a Pan-Germanic nationalist whose ideology was built around a philosophically authoritarian, anti-Marxist, anti-Semitic, anti-democratic world-view".

>>42184914
You got memed on lmao

>>42184964
>wind me up

About what? You're restating what I said in a different way. The average American is a lazy, entitled, fat piece of shit. The streets are full of rioting assholes protesting the fair election of Donald Trump who would probably assault me for being a conservative, and you expect me to care for and help this filth?

>>42184980
welfare was intended as a safety net

>>42183355
>force

we live in a democracy you cunt. If you don't like a law, you have the ability to get it changed with your vote. It just turns out that most people would rather have government backed health insurance so they don't become destitute from a doctor visit.

I don't like faggots flying a traitor faggot confederate flag in my state but you think I get my panties in a twist? No, because I know I live in a democracy and I value free speech. So if your dumbass get's cancer and has to pay $70k to get better. I will happily pay a little extra so that you don't get into bankruptcy. Because even though I don't agree with you, you're still a fellow american and I want what's best for you.

It makes me sad if you don't feel the same way but we can't everything we want.

>>42185005
Are you fucking stupid?

God why are lefties so fucking dumb.

No one said that shit you dumb bitch.

Show me once where someone said some shit like that.

Stop tipping your fedora, by trying to whip out your preconcieved reddit arguments when they don't even fit.

The other poster was calling someone Hitler because they were advocating for a free market healthcare system. Which Nazi Germany objectively did not have. That's it. The conversation was about how that person was a fucking idiot, and about healthcare in Nazi Germany. Now you're trying to extrapolate some shit no one has even said because you're a mouthbreathing reddit psuedointellectual.

>>42185032
You too.

>>42184937
And North Korea are democrats just because it says so in their name

>>42185121
And you too.

>>42185104
>The other poster was calling someone Hitler because they were advocating for a free market healthcare system.
No, I'm pretty sure that I know what I said. I called him Hitler because he said he's against socialized health care because fat people use it and that fat people should be left to die instead

>>42185104
i licc thicc dicc

>>42185148
Ok I see

>>42185163
I know

>>42184831
These people are your fellow americans you faggot. You're saying you don't give a fuck about your fellow americans dying in the street? Those single moms are also raising kids and have families who depend on them. Do they deserve to suffer because of your selfishness? If you help the moms, the kids can grow up in better environments and get off of welfare. The family members don't have to spend their money on supporting the single moms and their kids and can spend their money where it adds value like starting a business. That means more tax payers entering the economy. More productive tax payers entering the economy means that we can look forward to lower tax rates overall assuming we get a competent federal government.

Not all BLM people are rioters just like not all trump voters are deplorables. It's so sad that this needs to be repeated again and again. These people have shit schools, shit role models and are constantly treated like lepers by society so just like hillbillies, they embrace the hatred society has for them and lash out whenever they get the chance. If we can pour resources into improving their neighborhoods, maybe we can break the cycle and can stop dealing with the rioting bullshit. It's fucking obvious that the standard approach of dealing with them like pariahs isn't working.

As for refugees, if we don't help them out with healthcare, we're creating a situation which incentivises them to commit crimes si we;ll end up paying for it another way.

>>42185191
can i licc ur pricc u spicc

>>42183044

Libertarianism is cancer, the solution is some sort of NATIONAL Socialism. Everybody contributes. In such a system Boogie would be put into a Labour camp until he either loses weight or dies.

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>>42183162
>freedom

>>42185148
Why should I have to pay for fat fucks bad health, WHICH THEY THEMSELVES CAUSED?

>>42185087
>we live in a democracy you cunt.
No, it's a republic. The constitution is supposed to set certain limits on what the govt can do (rights).

Just because 51% vote the other 49% should be gassed doesnt mean it's right.

>I will happily pay a little extra so that you don't get into bankruptcy.
I wont pay for you healthcare happily, i will only pay if i am forced to do so. Idgaf if you end up bankrupt.

> Because even though I don't agree with you, you're still a fellow american and I want what's best for you.
Go fuck yourself. Destroying my freedom by forcing me to pay for your healthcare is not doing whats best for me, you disgusting prick.

>>42185054

Different worldviews then. I'm a europoor so bismarckian social security is deeply intertwined with our history and the development of labor laws. I couldn't really imagine a conservative american model in my society. But then again the economy's less favourable for able workers: I'm a law graduate who makes 20k€ a year (which is considered a good early career pay).

The idea behind it is collective insurance: yeah maybe some fat fuck who can't take care of his body will get some of my money, but without this system thousands more of legitimately ill, hard working and responsible people will die a horrible death, maybe even me. So I'm fine with it even if I sometimes want to punch someone when I see my paysheet.

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>>42185276
>So I'm fine with it
You're fine with being a sacrificial animal. I'd recommend reading this book.

>>42185258
Because that's what a civilized society looks like, dumbass. They pay for you as well, why should they have to pay for someone who's completely healthy?

>>42185337
>Because that's what a civilized society looks like, dumbass.
I disagree. A civilized society is not one in which you're forced to pay for other people's healthcare, education and whatnot. Stealing is not very civilized.

>>42182942
he said he lost 23 lbs in 4 days.

the fat ass is probably guzzling down another mountain dew as we speak.

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>>42185330
>Ayn Rand

What a load of horseshit. Rand is rock bottom, even on the conservative spectrum. Locke, Burke and Babbitt have more to say without the fucking annoying snarky style.

As an aside, here's my recommandation.

>>42185337
why dont you retards just throw boogie in a prison cell for 2 years or until he loses weight?

i dont mind paying for healthcare that actually works but you retards want us to pay for the most retarded shit that doesnt work at all.

"Someday will have to pay" is unironically one of my favorite memes.

>>42185385
Then move to Somalia and you'll see what civilization looks like where the state doesn't "steal" from you

>>42185423
Ah, the somalia meme. Nice job, anon.

>>42185330

god aynd rand is such shit. fits shallow faggots like you I guess

>>42185440
Just as valid of an argument as saying taxation is theft is

>>42185400
I disagree. Rand is the best of the bunch, and your recommendation sucks.

>>42185271
>Destroying my freedom

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

Yeah because you live in Saudi Arabia right? You're fucking spoiled rotten kid. You don't know what it means to not have freedom. This is a seat belt so that if the worst case scenario happens, you are covered. You have the ability to get it repealed if you want. It just turns out that the majority of the country disagrees with you and thinks you're a spoiled selfish prick (which is true) and is proved by you saying this

>I wont pay for you healthcare happily, i will only pay if i am forced to do so. Idgaf if you end up bankrupt.

Pathetic.

Yes, we live in a democratic republic if you want to be pedantic. At no point was I implying that I support majority rule or that I don't understand what the constitution is so you clearly lack reading comprehension.

>I often hear people argue (often quite militantly) that the United States is a republic, not a democracy. But that’s a false dichotomy. A common definition of “republic” is, to quote the American Heritage Dictionary, “A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them” — we are that. A common definition of “democracy” is, “Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives” — we are that, too.

>The United States is not a direct democracy, in the sense of a country in which laws (and other government decisions) are made predominantly by majority vote. Some lawmaking is done this way, on the state and local levels, but it’s only a tiny fraction of all lawmaking. But we are a representative democracy, which is a form of democracy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/11/14/the-united-states-is-both-a-republic-and-a-democracy-because-democracy-is-like-cash/?utm_term=.781954f5cc3f

>>42185451
Different anon and no its not faggot. Its a false comparison.

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>>42183044
Hey, I am also from Germany. I've lost 85 kg without any operation or medicine.

Healthcare still treats me like shit and I have to pay for my excess skin removal surgeries. I've literally saved them thousands of Euros because I am not going to be crippled with triple bypasses when I am 40. Yet that same healthcare pays for expensive chemo therapies, wheelchairs and treatments for fatties who never made an effort and smokers who just can't quit.

Reward those who don't try and punish those who fight.... great system.

>>42185451
some taxes are theft, dumbass.

>>42185474
>you're a spoiled selfish prick

Yes, I am selfish. And you are not, which makes you pahetic. Why shouldn't I do what's best for me? How do I benefit from being forced to pay for some stranger's healthcare?

>>42185453
rand is a snakeoil salesman and libertarianism is a cancer

>>42183200
>You wont give to charity
not if I can't afford it.

>>42185548
>Some
What

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>>42182942
There are two types of pre-existing condtions:

1. No your fault... ex genetic faults, internal cancers, etc.
2. your fault... alcoholics, obesity, drug usage

I am OK with paying for "1. no your fault " per-existing conditions.

I WILL NOT pay for per-existing conditions due to someones lifestyle choices. Be an alcoholic if you want to be but I am NOT paying for a new liver for you.

>>42185587
if you cant even understand that at least some are theft you are fucking brain dead

>>42185552
>I only do things which have direct tangible benefit to me

That's why you're pathetic, anon

>>42185561
Okay. I disagree :)

>>42185605
Nope. Why should I do things that are bad for me.

>>42185552
>No patriotic spirit
>circular logic
>no concern for his fellow citizen
>no desire to uplift his fellow citizens to a better standard of living
>can't even fucking spell
>Hasn't outgrown childish Randian pseudo philosophy.
>selfish and miserly like Scrooge
>Probably has a small dick too

I advocate for health care for conservatives because a small part of me feels pity for them. Like they're so fucking pathetic, they need to be coddled like children. This charming post of yours just proves it.

>>42185662
You didn't answer.

>>42185597
You'll change your mind once a loved one becomes an alcoholic or heroin addict.

Several incredibly talented and intelligent people throughout history have suffered from addiction including pretty much everyone who makes our movies and our music. Excluding them from help hurts all of us.

>>42185697
>You'll change your mind once a loved one becomes an alcoholic or heroin addict.
not him but if that happens im locking them in a room until they withdraw.

cheap easy solution that doesnt require 100,000 grand in treatment.

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>>42185697
>You'll change your mind once a loved one becomes an alcoholic or heroin addict.

NO!!! it will not...I will not pay to help someone commit suicide (alcoholics) or pay for their fucked up lifestyle (obese) .

They CHOOSE to be sick, so they can pay for their cure.

>>42183397
>>42183488
A free market is absolutely not the answer to healthcare. The reason so many things get socialized is because there's a lot a free market is bad for. Free market medical leads to overtreating and predatory behavior. Just look at the auto repair industry. It's absolutely fucked. We're willing to deal with that for our cars, but healthcare is more important. My grandfather was killed by a greedy doctor.

The point of socialism is to affect incentives. Infrastructure would be impossible to implement in cheap ways for everybody without forcing everybody to contribute, because everybody is incentivized to only pay for infrastructure in their immediate situation. Free market is a bad incentivisation scheme for medical, so we need to figure out a way of paying doctors with the government that disincentivizes predation, but also incentivizes doing a good job.

>>42183676
>Is actually misanthropic and racist.

Oh, I thought your opinions were informed by reason. Woops.

>>42185890
>A free market is absolutely not the answer to healthcare.
It absolutely is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMqBy2wjp8o

>>42183258
its actually illegal to make Americans buy something. Go figure.

Also, you're an idiot. A few months after Trump took office the IRS declared "skipping the Obamacare portion of your filling would not auto trigger an audit"

So when you filed and got to that section you could just leave it blank.

t. had no insurance and didnt pay the fine

>>42186372
Did u get a rebate?

>>42185540
This is exactly what I'm talking about, the system here in Germany is fucked. I'd rather give my money to charities that help people who lost weight get a surgery, than pay into a healthcare system that treats fat fucks who don't do shit to better themselves.

By the way, congrats on the weight loss, looking good!

>>42186372
True... so the supreme court called it a "TAX", and congress has the constitutional right to levy taxes

>>42186455
I did, yes. Some tax softwares even updated their platform to accommodate skipping a section that was unskippable in the middle of tax-season.

>>42185597
You do know that addiction is classified as a brain disorder, right? Why the fuck would anybody choose to be an addict?

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>>42186896
>Why the fuck would anybody choose to be an addict?

Because they would rather "feel good" than be productive members of society. In the end EVERY addict chooses "feeling good" over society and family... they deserve the hell they give themselves, for choosing themselves over all others, the SELFISH fuckers!

>>42183281
Rolling

why do we need to have daily threads about this fat fuck. seriously. why

sage

>>42186954
>People choose to have a brain disorder
Uh huh, I'll take your word for it over decades of scientific research

>>42185597

You are aware that there are a whole category of diseases that may or may not be someone's fault? Like say someone gets bowel cancer, but they have a normal BMI and exercise regularly, however they ate a lot of red meat (a known risk factor), but their father also had bowel cancer. You don't know whether they would have got cancer anyway, with or without the red meat. Did they know that red meat increases your risk of bowel cancer? Where do you draw the line on how much you can eat before it's classed as causal?

I agree with the idea - people need incentives to improve their health, and people shouldn't be put at serious financial jeopardy for something out of their control (that second one may be contentious with more right wing people, who will say insurance would cover it, but that's another debate), however the execution of it is much trickier.

>>42182942
He's rich. How the fuck can he not afford to suck the fat from his own bloated corpse? Rhetorical questions obviously.

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>>42186971
Boogie is an insecure blob who browses /fit/. I want him to know how much I hate him.

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>>42186984
>Uh huh, I'll take your word for it over decades of scientific research

Am I wrong... is it not selfish hedonistic pleasure that drives them to destroy themselves... they are slaves to pleasure, abandoning their families, their friends, their society... there no action so low they will not do for "just another hit".
I will not destroy them, but neither will I waste resources aiding them.
Their hell is self-imposed, they hold the key to releasing themselves from the prison they put themselves in.

FUCK EM

>>42187100

Tbh, most addicts have other mental illnesses, which in turn aids their addiction, for example schizophrenia etc - they then can't get work so do drugs etc etc. Not saying either of you are wrong, but it'd be very naive to take these things in isolation, often it's far more complicated then that

>>42183044
What about healthy people that develop conditions, accidents, children born with conditions. People that to hazardous shit should just have to pay more, but universal healthcare should and needs to happen.

>>42187150
Unrelated but how do I help my friend

He just failed his final year of university and got kicked out because he has made zero effort in anything this year. He spends 12+ hours a day playing video games.
I thought failing and getting kicked out would shock him into action but he's got worse. He now stays up playing until 6am and sleeps until late afternoon before repeating the process.
He hasn't left our flat in over a week.

I remember him telling me once that he avoided drinking too much because he has a family history of alcoholism. How do I make him realise that he isn't just prone to alcoholism - he is prone to addiction and the gaming is just that - another addiction.

>>42187226

I'm no expert, just a med student and haven't really done any psych.

There's some 'cycle' somewhere, about change/habits, and the first step is always recognising that there is a problem. He needs to do this, and to want to change. Often this is relatively easy, he might think 'I don't want to do this' but then not do much.

Step 2 is planning to actually do something, 3 is doing it, etc etc. It's important to note that failure can come at any point, and the whole cycle will start again.

More importantly than that, is maybe to force him to get out? It's very easy to fall into a spiral where you have no commitments, but much harder when people expect things from you (eg being at work 8 hours a day). Failing that, you could always consider helping him seek professional help, but that could be tricky and/or expensive for a uni student, and I don't know how effective it would even be.

Most importantly, he needs to want to change. If he gets to that point, then you can support him0 make him go outside with you, do exercise together, cook healthy shit- fill up the time productively and don't give him a chance to slip back into vidya for 12 hours a day. Habits take time to form, and time to break, and chances are he'll fail more than once, but support from friends really can help.

Healthcare shouldn't be for-profit. The best healthcare systems in the US are the ones managed by the government, because more of the money goes to providing actual healthcare, rather than the bank account of some billionaire. It's really fucked up that people are ok with overcharging and under providing sick people for healthcare. Right leaning people always have a problem with what regular people are doing, but they are quiet when it comes to the evil shit the healthcare and drug industry does.

>>42187150
>it's far more complicated then that
NO.. NO.. they do not get any sympathy.

Addiction is a self imposed prison.

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY...
the root of all ethics.. they fail this

Do not waste time aiding or destroying the addict

>>42187100
>Am I wrong
Yes, because it's just been explained that it's mental illness

It's funny though, because he has millions of fans and a hot wife.

Yet /fit/izens genuinely think they're worth more than him because they...lift a barbell...a few times a week...Lmfao.

>>42183281
Roll

>>42186954
Lmfao at this delusional christfag virgin.

Reality pill: Drug highs are the BEST feeling on Earth, and your incel ass can't do shit about it.

Just imagine actually being such a terrified little bitch that you waste your youth never getting high lmfao...Absoluetly pathetic.

>>42187591
>Yes, because it's just been explained that it's mental illness

A chemical imbalance in the brain, is understandable and THAT deserves to be treated as a per-existing condition.

a mental illness of being a lazy hedonistic waste of flesh meth addict, deserves nothing but the slow torturous death it has... at least the females can whore their bodies for sexual enjoyment of the working populous, before their bodies rot

>>42186954

>be productive

productive for who?

He reckons the surgery will mean make it so digesting his favourite junk food like pizza would be extremely painful

>>42187682
>productive for who?
For society you fucking waste of flesh.

Even asking this question shows a weakness in understanding the importance of each individual to strive to improve themselves and those around them.

>>42187709

says the guy shitposting on 4chan on a weekday afternoon

>>42187650
>drug highs are the BEST feeling on Earth

Degenerate hedonist... the BEST feeling is holding your child on you arms as you sleep next to your wife, in the comfort of your safe secure house in your community of friends and neighbors.

>>42187726
>says the guy shitposting on 4chan on a weekday afternoon

Hey... I can do my entire job in about 2 hours a day... so yeah... I can shit post whenever I want to

>>42187751
shouldn't you be using that time to strive to be whatever the fuck you're on about?

>>42187763
>shouldn't you be using that time to strive to be whatever the fuck you're on about?

I AM... by looking at the degenerate state of our society I can more easily see what is wrong with it and how to fix it. Basically a nation of pampered hedonistic narcissist.

WHY are people who CAN have excellent bodies instead just become obese.

WHY are the children who have access to one of the finest education systems in the world, NOT going to college and studying hard.

WHY are health strong your pople NOT having large happy families.

I am changing my philosophy and going ever further right and conservative, BUT at the same time seeing the wisdom in the teaching of the founding fathers of America... Benjamin Franklin has become my hero.

>>42187819
this is 10/10 autism, i'm done with you now

>>42187819
G*D damn... we need a spelling AND grammar checker built into the postings.

>>42187838
>G*D

GTFO KIKE

>>42187623
>hot wife.
His wife is a landwhale.

>>42183281

/roll/

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>>42187849
>GTFO KIKE

Clever Goyem.

>>42183044
>Little girl gets cancer
>Parents can't afford healthcare and she dies

Oh well! At least fatties won't get thin on your dime, anon!

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>>42183044
>>42183152
France here, I feel you.

>>42183281
rollan

>>42183281
h-here I go, Boogie

>>42187909
She doesnt die, her parents go into crippling debt, which is preferable to actually dying like she would in europe because you are years behind in cancer treatment.

>>42182942

>can't afford the healthcare he needs to keep his morbidly obese body alive

Eat less food > lose weight > save money by lower grocery bills > use money to pay the healthcare costs for however long it takes to recuperate from being so overweight for so long > move on

If he finds it that hard, hire a psychiatrist to get to the root of his eating disorder and hire somebody to lock him in a room and prepare all of his meals for him until he's lost a significant amount of weight.

PAY

>>42188549
FOR

>>42183281
Dont hate on boogie. He's not a bad guy.

>>42185195

>you don't give a fuck about your fellow americans dying in the street?

Don't be dramatic, it doesn't help your point

>If you help the moms, the kids can grow up in better environments and get off of welfare

Then why hasn't that been working for the last 5 decades?

>As for refugees, if we don't help them out with healthcare, we're creating a situation which incentivises them to commit crimes si we;ll end up paying for it another way.

We don't need to help them out with a goddamn thing send them the fuck back where they came from. Fuck em.

>>42185890
I don't think you understand how economics works

>>42188608
for you

>>42187693
He's a big guy

>>42188901
>>42188853

>>42185451
But there are laws in Somalia.

There's just a dozen different local warlords and Islamic fanatics trying to implement different laws.

>>42185474
Did he seriously find the one dictionary that gave the loosest interpretation of democracy?

A democracy is where citizens vote directly on issues. God damn the Washington post is shit.

>>42185697
Fucking wrong.

I have zero tolerance for addict filth.

We should do what Singapore does. Free public healthcare along with a private system you can opt into. Also they execute drug dealers and beat/fine/jail drug offenders and execute them on a repeated offense.

I PROMISE you if we followed their example our crime rates could be as low as theirs and our streets just as clean.

But no. Dipshits like you will cry "poor druggies, think of their rights ;_;". So many American cities (and European as well) are dangerous wastelands because people like you excuse such behavior in the name of democracy.

>>42186896
Why did they choose to live that way and take the drugs?

>>42189733
Because not everybody can be a flawless ubermensch like you who never gets put in suboptimal conditions and only sit at home and browse 4chan

>>42183200

>worth it

You are making a fatal flaw with that logic. Why are you anointed to be the arbiter of the fate of millions of people? Why do you or anyone get to decide what is worth it? Why is it that you or anyone else is able to tell me what decision is "worth it" or not?

>>42187650
Why are these loser cucks who are so happy living their escapist delusions so desperate to get others roped into their shitty lifestyles?

>>42187909
>what about the bitch who got shot? Fuck her! You think I give a damn about a bitch? I ain't no sucker!

-Eazy Motherfuckin E blowing the fuck out of the THINK OF THE CHILLRUNS argument before your whore mother squeezed you out of her lose slit

>>42189826
>waaah waaah resisting drugs is hard
>we had no CHOICE but to take drugs :(
>Pity the poor addicted fools

No. Fuck them. It isn't a "privilege" to not do drugs you sheltered western bitch. Lots of people in the third world grow up without becoming addict filth, but you wouldn't know about that you suburban dork. Let me guess, you're a recovered addict but you totally have a heart of gold and are soo noble.

>>42184980

I agree with you on welfare deadlines, but with no exceptions. An absolute threshold wherein once you cross it then you are cut off permanently.

Also I would SIGNIFICANTLY reduce the number of entitlement programs. And effectively remove all entitlement programs that are direct transfer payments. i.e. a check

Leave in place programs such as food stamps and school lunch vouchers with an absolute temporal deadline. No exceptions

>>42184831
Ya might have sociopathic tendencies

>>42183281
rolling

>>42185662

It's really short sighted to say that he has "no concern" for his fellow citizen.

Not sure of yours or his nationality, but America was founded on principles of sovereignty. Including sovereignty from government intervention and other individuals. The principles that many conservatives here hold are principles of self sufficiency. America was founded and succeeded because of those principles.

Concern for others is able to be divorced from the ideals that make America the greatest country in the world

>>42184806
which are sent free to him by the companies who make them, dumbass.

>>42185597
>Be an alcoholic if you want.

Like there's dozens of people who sign up to be alcoholics? are you fucking retarded. its classified as a disease for a reason you dipshit.

PAY

>>42185234
National Isolationist Libertarianism

I don't think boogie even wants to lose weight. He just wants attention. Look how many threads he makes about himself on here. The nigger is an adult baby

>>42182942
Actually the best thing Boogie could do is die. It would shock millions of shitposters and /fat/ apologists to change their ways. Boogie would start a national health scare that would change vidya and net' culture forever.

>>42182942
Wait are you seriously telling me that america, the """""greatest country in the world""""" doesn't have universal healthcare? Hahahhahahha what kind of third world shithole is it over there? They can't afford to help them so they ley cancer patients die in the streets lmao. And people on 4chan tried to tell me americans were rich top jej

>>42186516
so how much charity money do you give away?

>>42191630
I'm for healthcare to the ones who actually need it, not for the ones like boogie who let themselves get that bad off.

>>42191630
It's the type of system that doctors from around the world strive to work in, and patients from around the world travel to for surgery.

>>42183281
na

>>42183281
roll

>>42183090
If the majority of healthcare costs weren't the result of diabetes, heart disease, and other obesity linked issues, then I'd happily pay for the ability to cover the costs of the unfortunate.

But that's where the majority of costs go to. All the fat fucks who don't understand that you can't eat Big Macs twice a day for 15 years and not have problems.

So no subsidized healthcare. Fat people ruined it for everyone else, because they are the majority of the problem.

>>42191743
>my mom can't that tumour removed, but at least that Mr Gupta who owns a call center in Mumbai can get his nosejob done well
Ahahahahaha

>>42185005
>>42185032
>>42185121
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_People%27s_Welfare
Hitler was an actual socialist. Economically left but socially right. Idk why you guys seem to get mad over this fact

>>42183080
At least they aren't fat.

>>42182964
Do you think the weights and power cage in my home gym just fell out of the sky?

>>42192585
>he doesn't have a divine bench sent from heaven

Get off my board you fucking pleb

>>42187490
This.

People can't have a free market solution to healthcare due to the fact nobody is willing to bargain with something as important as your very own life. People don't put a price on their own lives or the lives of their loved ones. An attempt at free market capitalism for healthcare means corporate hospitals will engage in very predatory behavior since they are dealing with something considered priceless.

>>42192599
Free market solutions are the reason we have thousands upon thousands of medical solutions. Should we just dismantle patents for drugs as well?

obese people shouldn't receive medical insurance or medical care.

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>>42182942
Don't worry, kek is seeing to his end

>>42187751
I WANT TO PUCNH YOU

>>42192752
YES

>>42192655
>medical care
Would be weight loss.
No one in Washington has the balls to offer health care with the requirement of weight loss.

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>>42183281
Check em

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>>42183281
Goodbye you disgusting slob, rollerino

>>42182964
Even if you're not employed and therefore don't pay income tax there is a fuckton other taxes the state leeches you money from. VAT, for instance, is one that affects everyone.

I could be a trust fund baby or a NEET that leeches from his family and still have a right to complain.

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>Boogies wife left him mid-stream
WAKE ME UP INSIDE.

>>42188851
No, I don't think you do.
People read the first few chapters of Mankiw and then blank out during externalities.

>>42192638
Free market pharma is different from free market medical care you fucking ninny.

>>42187214
>What about healthy people that develop conditions, accidents, children born with conditions. People that to hazardous shit should just have to pay more, but universal healthcare should and needs to happen.

No, it doesn't. Fuck off with this retarded shit.

European nations have the luxury of socialized healthcare because of a few things.

-Smaller nations
-Smaller populations
-Less military spending
-One majority demographic
-Single cultural identity

You can't apply a single monolithic healthcare system to a nation as vast and diverse as the United States. Moreover, look at Canada and their insane wait times for everything, and the shit that Charlie Gard is getting from the NHS.

Universal healthcare guarantees access to healthcare, but the quality of healthcare in the US will take a fucking hard nosedive.

If you still believe what you believe, then please, go fucking kill yourself.

>>42187490
>The best healthcare systems in the US are the ones managed by the government


HAHAHAHA

Because the VA was a shining example of quality healthcare in the US. Please, stop lying asshole.

>>42192599
>he trusts the government to innovate and provide affordable options

lol

>>42183281
Roll

>>42183281

Goodnight sweet prince

>>42185087
>If you don't like a law, you have the ability to get it changed with your vote.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>42194226
He'll probably cancel the surgery now

>>42194828
Of course he will. This is the excuse he was waiting for, now muh depreshun is gonna flre up and he'll eat a small village worth of food.

>>42183281
Roll.

>>42192504
So he's a radical centerist?

>>42188321
and could be avoided by public healthcare.

>>42185474
>Yeah because you live in Saudi Arabia right? You're fucking spoiled rotten kid. You don't know what it means to not have freedom. This is a seat belt so that if the worst case scenario happens, you are covered. You have the ability to get it repealed if you want. It just turns out that the majority of the country disagrees with you and thinks you're a spoiled selfish prick (which is true) and is proved by you saying this

No true scottsman fallacy, and it's every adult's responsibility to get their own fucking healthcare on their own dam dime, not a mine, faggot. If you want gubment healthcare, then let it go to the states under 10A. Healthcare isn't listed under enumerated powers.

>>42194443
Nice.

I find the healthcare argument retarded when you realise Americans pay the most for the shittiest care. Other countries get better care at a lower cost. You have no upside. You just defend a garbage corrupt system cause muh American exceptionalism

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>>42182942
His wife literally just left him.

>>42195105
she's in the process of leaving him, right before his surgery

so she can have an easier time divorcing the shit out of him and taking his money

lol fucken women though haha

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>>42195105
oh shit i'm watching the stream, he looks mad

>>42195150
His odds in surgery aren't great, she should've just waited.

Can alimony be paid in Loot Crate?

>>42195168
but she is waiting anon

she's doing the best she can do, which is to stay married but also break him emotionally

lol

>>42195150
What's even worse is she obviously fed him a line to just keep him quiet and calm and he went to Twitter posting "everything is okay guys I talked to my wife :)))".

Yeah no, someone doesn't want to leave you , and then everything becomes fine again after one conversation.

And really who wouldn't want to leave him? What future does he have? He's dead in a decade probably.

>>42195105
obviously a feeder.

No surprise she would be unhappy about him trying to lose weight.

>>42195188
bro she didn't feed him a line, she went hey you fucking asshole, now people are going to think I'm the bad guy and it's going to hurt me socially, so you better fucking apologize right now to everybody and tell them how great I am or else people will think less of me and we can't have that

and boogie is a weak willed piece of shit who can't ever stand up for anything including himself so he was like yea, ok lol sure whatever you say I guess you're right I'm the bad guy here

>>42183090
No one deserves shit in life. You're born and everything you get, including water, food and air, is a privilege that you have zero entitlement to.

>>42195195
There's no such thing a woman feeder. Women don't have those kind of weird fetishes. Women are either into vanilla monogamous sex or bdsm gangbangs, no in-between.

>>42195151
Do you have a link to the stream, he appears to have deleted it

>>42195227
the feeder fetish comes from an exaggerated caring of a partner and women don't care for male partners, they care for their children. males care for women and women care for children

and women who overfeed children are all over the fuckin place

>>42185540
Mirin

>>42185330
Rand the shittiest of them all.

Good job reading a kike with an agenda, you idiot.

>>42191649
Probably not much considering he likely has 40% of his income taxed, you stupid mouthbreathing faggot.

>>42195227
What about monogamous bdsm sex?

>>42195105
BOOGIE BTFO

>>42183281

ROLLING

>>42185195
Hey look /fit/ a bleeding heart liberal who cares. How Nobel and heroic. You are a fool kid. Grow up.

>>42182942
Fuck you boogie

>>42195227
>women don't have those kind of weird fetishes
Oh anon, dear, sweet anon..
But anyways, it doesn't necessarily have to be a sexual thing. A lot of these people just like the fact that their partner is helpless and dependent on them. Don't forget the fact that she's a fatty too, just not to the extent that Boogie is. It could be that she doesn't like that he's changing himself.

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>>42183281
SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY

>>42182964
Not everyone is lounging in fucking university, brandon.

>>42183281
sorry boogie

>>42190175
Nope, I don't even drink alcohol, but what you're asking is "Why can't literally every person on the planet be 100% perfect and not make any bad desicions" which is a retarded question, especially since addiction is a brain disorder, but if you can figure that out then you might be eligible for a Nobel prize

>>42183281
He dies

>>42190982
Found the boogie fan

>>42183072
Why? They're hilarious

>>42183281
It's time.

>>42183281
DORMUMU I'VE CUM FOR TRIPS

>>42195219
damn this upper middle class rich white kid named dylan is definitely on to something here guys

>>42194226
Is this pic real? I've seen it before but looks shoopped to me

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>>42183281
THE PRINCE WILLS IT

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>>42183281
ONE DIGIT OFF
A FINAL ATTEMPT

>>42183281
Rolling, FOR THE BOYS OF COURSE!

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>>42183072
I kinda agree with this anon , no boogie thread until he dies

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>>42183281

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>>42183281
Pop goes the weasel.

>if you murder someone you have to prove clearly you were/are insane to avoid jail
>if you're an "addict" you just wave your hand and say it's mental illness and no one questions you

>>42183281
he needs to die

>>42187738
The BEST feeling is not paying for a child and wasting your time and sleep, then continuing to sleep in with your girl

>>42185195
Not everyone is worth saving, people who rely on welfare as a lifestyle can fuck off and die. Also, every single BLM supporter is a retard, because they idolize violent criminals, and their entire movement relies on anecdotal evidence, and they get butthurt about cases where some random cop shoots a black guy, even when the cop is ultimately found not guilty.

>>42195267
>anti-welfare state, anti-communist, calls mudshits a "group of totally primitive savages", only fault is supporting Israel over mudshits
>kike agenda

>>42185474
>some people have it way worse than you, so you are selfish for complaining about your comparatively small problems
When will this meme die?

>>42185697
>>42186896
>>42191010
>it's classified as a brain disorder, which removes all responsibility from the individual
That's not how it works, it's not like they have something serious like schizophrenia that cannot be treated in a non-medical way.

>>42182942
Dubs and he dies

>>42183281
RIP Boogie

>>42186372

Did you read the text of the Supreme Court ruling? They concluded that NOT purchasing a service constituted participation in interstate commerce.

It was the most shameless asspull in American legal history, and that's really saying something considering how fucked our courts are.

WHO GON PAY FO MAH WOMANS CHILUNS

>>42189733
Singapore is also a boring fascist hellscape fuill of consumer drones. Where are the great Singaporean movies and music? They don't exist because they've murdered all of the non conformists.

>>42190175
I'm actually from Pakistan myself bro. We have a huge addict problem. If you are an alcoholic here, they will literally chain you to a wall and read the Quran to you until you go insane. These people need help and compassion.

>>42190399
>The principles that many conservatives here hold are principles of self sufficiency. America was founded and succeeded because of those principles.

Except that's a fucking bullshit meme. Cooperation is what's made America great. Those hardy pioneers benefited from American armies willing to protect them from Native Americans, American technology that helped them survive in the first place and American goods developed by cities which weren't full of retarded muh self suffiency morons that actually built America into a great country.

>>42192441
If you're poor, there are no fucking options. Retard republicans keep voting for unhealthy school lunches and strand poor people in food desserts where the only fucking food to eat is mcdonalds.

ITT: /fit/ is full of selfish "fuck you i got mine" pricks.

You all were the cancer that killed the Roman empire.

>>42197774
Really? Really, individualism is what caused the fall of the Roman Empire? I guess we'll just ignore the Germanic invasions, Hun refugees, and gifting of land to Goths in Danube.

Get the fuck outta here. I'll go lift some weights for you so you can get some gains too, since that's apparently how your brain works.

>>42183281
rollin

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>>42199289
>Get the fuck outta here. I'll go lift some weights for you so you can get some gains too, since that's apparently how your brain works.

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>actually intervene in and treat childhood obesity
>rigorous phys-ed classes in public school system
>maximum allowed bodyfat percentage or you fail

Then you can socialize medicine

>>42199550
how many ex-football players didn't become obese after they left their highschool/college team?

>>42183281
rolling

>>42199790
Probably a lot, I know my friend did. They're used to eating big, but now that they're off the team they don't have to work out.

>>42183281
that fucking ladyboy man

>>42185540
>Hey, I am also from Germany. I've lost 85 kg without any operation or medicine.
You sound like one of those "one weird trick" ads on porn sites

>>42195151
He looks more sad to me. The red in his face happens all the time. Its cus hes fat

>>42186954
Recovering ALky here. I can confirm that being an alcoholic doesn't feel good. Nearly dying of DTs and losing entire family and place to live is not a fucking indulgence. Drinking feels good at first, and some of us fall into dependence due to genetic prediposition, depression, and chemical addiction. At the height of my addicition I would have died had I stopped cold T. You're plain wrong friendO, get off that moral high horse.

>>42183281
The only question left is "who is going to bury the body?"

>>42183072
He's called boogie because he's dancing with death

https://www.reddit.com/r/boogie2988/comments/6obnmr/boogie2988_here_heres_the_truth_about_my_wife_and/

He's addressing us ahahaha

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Congratulations Boogie on losing 200 pounds of unslightly fat

>>42201464
Someone with an account please make fun of him

I want to see him break

>>42201532
It would probably get drowned out by the fucking enabling cunts telling him how much they love him, but please, someone try.

>>42201564
I'd do it if I wasn't perma banned for telling people to kill themselves all the time

Figures.

>>42182964
i have two jobs fuck off

>>42182964
No.

>>42183281
Ok. Trips you die

>>42183281
ROLAN DOLAN

>>42195150
shoo /r9k/ shoo

>>42183281
pls die

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>>42201464
Guys.
Boogie could be in this thread RIGHT NOW.

>>42183281
Let it be done

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>>42201603
Ragie wagie

Heart attack at 40 probably

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>>42201875
>TFW you are one of the cheif architects of a disinformation campaign against Boogie today

>>42183281
Die boogie

>>42183281
ROLL
If trips boogie dies on operating table

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>>42182964
Kill yourself, my man.

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>>42202001
>001

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>>42202001

>>42183281
Rolling like that fat fuck.

I can't Imagine people who actively try to anger themselves on the internet

>>42183281
Rolling

>>42183281
Roll
Boogie, if you are in this thread, I hope you rest a lot after your surgery. In a 6 foot deep hole in the ground, of course

>>42183281
Rolling for loli Boogie

>>42183281
Roll

111= Boogie is kill

>>42183281
Die fatty

>>42183281
Rolling
PLZ

>>42202091
"a break from the diet"

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>>42182964

>made so little last year that the government considered me poverty level and I got 1.2k back

Part time and school are great.

>>42185890
pay your doctor, or maybe the "medical community inc." for as long as you are healthy. done. they will do as little as they can, while doing the best for you they actually can.

>>42183281
sweet dreams

>>42192441
>But that's where the majority of costs go to

[citation desperately fucking needed]

>>42183318
>socialism sounds great on paper

U wot m8? So you're saying it's ok to take things people earn and give it to ones that didn't earn it if a system like that worked?

>>42183281
Death is imminent

>>42183090
Why would you need socialism when usually communities would gladly help pay for the medical costs of an upstanding member of society? Unless you want us to pay for some shitbag who is probably not contributing very well to society.

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>tfw nobody ripped the stream

>>42183281
I'll end it tight now someone check em

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