Hollywood Superheroes

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>>42169213

theyre all roided

>>42169213

Because I plan to lose all respect for any superheroes that are on the juice. Narrowing my comic book collection will only save me money.

>>42169232
Growing the fuck up would save you a lot more.

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>>42169224

How about Ant-Man?

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>>42169232

I don't understand the roid hate lol.

the only people that i hate that roids are those fitness youtubers that claim they are natty

>>42169257
var cycle

>>42169257
He did Convict Conditioning

>>42169257
He still may have take something to get lean but I doubt he took roids.

The majority of Transformations are roided.

>>42169263

Don't worry. I won't actually hate them for real. I just want an excuse to know which ones don't use steroids, if there are any.

>>42169251

I matured into comics. Never read them when I was younger. If you haven't started your own collection, you need to grow up.

>>42169213
>Hollywood

they're all on gear

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>>42169224
>>42169213

Henry Cavill was confirmed not on gear for Man of Steel and didn't use CGI to enhance his physique onscreen because he thought it'd be disingenuous as someone playing Superman. His diet and workouts were just ridiculously on point and he lost all his gains after the movie.

Should actually provide a pretty good idea of what absolute peak natty aesthetics with average to low-tier genetics looks like.

Actually have a huge amount of respect for him not doing shit the easy way.

>>42169263
Me neither - still have to train and eat properly to get results. I think the main issue is that it gives people a false impression either about what is achievable or how quickly or implies that these people have a greater work ethic than regular people when often they don't. It's the studios doing it though,these actors all are prescribed these drugs legally but are contractually bound so they can't mention the drugs even if they wanted to.

>>42169301
Who confirmed this? I doubt it.

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>>42169301

I need his facial aestehtics and his frame

>>42169311
You can look at virtually any source online regarding his training leading up to the movie, including third parties that try to guess whether roids were involved or not.

He could of course be lying through his teeth but considering his alleged diet and workout routine I think it's possible.

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>>42169289
>>42169281

Even Tom Holland, the new Spider-Man? Aren't these bodies achievable for people who just naturally live an athletic lifestyle and lift all year round? Why do they need to roid to begin with?

What's the difference visually between a body of someone who just works out all the time vs someone who does it on the juice?

>>42169328

that dude is super lean

>>42169328
He's on hormones, but not anabolic steroids. They're actually feeding him shit to look 12 forever.

>>42169301
>he lost all his gains after the movie.
>not on a cycle
Kek

>>42169301
>>42169324

If he loses all his gains after the movie, isn't it going to be difficult for him to re-achieve his superman look for all the future sequels? As he ages, isn't he going to have a harder time and just end up making Superman look like he's becoming an out of shape Kryptonian? Oh nevermind, they got the cool muscle padded suit.

>>42169328
Takes a long time, especially depending on where the actor is starting from. They have plenty of other shit to do besides work out all fuckin day.

Compound that with the fact that natty hypertrophy is like 75 percent genetics as well as the fact that naturally lean people are going to be able to get naturally leaner and to get the perfect superhero physique roids generally need to be involved, especially when people have come to expect the roided look in action movies.

Tbh it sets bad standards for the kids. I understand how women feel about unrealistic body portrayals in the media given the way the male action hero looks in Hollywood.

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>>42169328
>What's the difference visually between a body of someone who just works out all the time vs someone who does it on the juice?

The difference is you can't put on 20lbs of lean mass in 6 months like these dudes do.

>>42169328
Toms been a gymnist for years so quite possibly natty. He's lean - probably dropped abit of body fat for the role but the muscle was likely already there. It's stars that go from never having any muscle to having a decent physique in a short amount of time.

It's good lighting too in all his shirtless scenes. Spidey is only meant to be 15 in that movie so there wouldn't need for him to be big.

>>42169374

Yeah they do look similar. But cavill is up 2 points by aesthetics due to shorter midface, and darker, masculine hair coloring

>>42169360
If your diet and exercise routine fall off a cliff, yes, you will lose your gains, regardless of whether you're on gear or not. Guy was working out several hours a day, every day, and eating 5500 calories while he was bulking. Of course he's going to look different when he's not training for the role you dumbshit.

>>42169365
Muscle memory and jumping back into the diet and fitness routine with the same trainer will allow him to re-attain that physique pretty readily. The point is just fucking nobody wants to work out four hours a day and eat like a rhino when they're not prepping for a role, especially when they could be fucking five chicks at once because they're Henry Cavill

>>42169373
thats like a 10 year difference mate, home and away early time, to thor

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>>42169370

>75 percent genetics as well as the fact that naturally lean people are going to be able to get naturally leaner and to get the perfect superhero physique

Are they all mostly Ecto and Meso body types? Endos can't be superheroes because of the layer of fat that they can't get rid of right?

>>42169324
Yeah that still means nothing. These people get paid off - I've seen plenty of YouTube videos/articles that have said he was probably on roids. there's too much money on the lines in these movies to take risks like that.


He still put on a lot of mass in a short time that he's never had before and even with top tier genetics you still don't build it that quick.

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>>42169389
According to what I can find the left pic is from 2009, the right is from 2011.

Hollywood actors roid, most of them don't even like lifting.

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When you guys say everyone in Hollywood, you mean men right? /fit/ Women don't need muscle definition to look like a superhero right?

Why does some of you little boys care about these little things that people do that don't matter to you. Who cares if any of your heroes or anyone in general was on juice? Is it self righteousness? Do you want to feel "special" and blabber about how healthy you are? Do you really think you're that special?

>>42169412
I mean ecto/meso/endo is a vast oversimplification of someone's genetic background and potential, it's more like three easily identifiable body types. Some people may be tall like the ectomorph in your picture but flabby like the endomorph. Everyone's a bit different.

My point though is movie producers have the ability to easily iron out those differences through steroids. It doesn't matter at all what the guy auditioning for the role looks like with his shirt off, because if you put him on enough gear and have him train hard enough, he will look just like any other Hollywood action hero regardless of where he starts from. Steroids are able to make up for poor or average genetics, and then some, and then some more. As a film production company you don't have to worry about your leading man's physique anymore because your trainer and your roid guy has it covered.

>>42169437
oh yeah they definitely do, but its still 10 years, no amount of next level science rich and famous only peds could do that in 6 months

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>>42169438
Nobody expects women to put any effort into their bodies, so they don't bother.

This bitch is the laziest cunt ever, she was dyel, she couldn't speak English, she couldn't act, she didn't even have some T&A. Absolutely horrible casting.

>>42169429
I mean sure, it could be all nonsense. But his physique is 100 percent attainable natty and the stuff you read about his routine leading up to shooting would seem to make sense.

I'm inclined to believe that it's true, because he doesn't look roided like Chris Hemsworth or Chris Evans or Hugh Jackman. Guy just doesn't have the same hyper-airbrushed look that lots of famous actors do for these roles. If he were obviously not natty and were claiming he'd done it without gear I'd be a bit more sceptical.

>>42169213
pretty much all of them.
It's more convenient and time is a bitch.

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>>42169466

idgaf

gal gadot is sexy as hell, id bang her if i had a good looking face and money

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>>42169466

So... it's easier being a girl. Just stay thin and let the studio give their tits and ass padding.

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>>42169494
you're a homo, breh

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>>42169525
Yeah. Though to be fair, Amber Heard is one of the hottest bitches in Hollywood right now.

>>42169494
I wanted a bog pic instead.

>>42169213
i dont believe chris evans roided
have you seen him in not another teen movie that was 10 years before captain america?
dude had the body already

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Realistically, why would Batman have abs? His goal would be to pack on muscle mass and have strength to perform his tasks. To show abs, you must diet and lean down for cosmetic reasons (while also losing strength in the process), which would interfere with his schedule of fighting crime.

>>42169213
medial deltoid sticking up visibly is the most obvious and reliable sign of gear usage.

>>42169224
also unironically this.

>>42169388
Wow, you really have a crush on Cavil don't you?
I bet you could be a pussy slayer like him, and get jacked natty.

His physique is attainable natty.
But with the prevalence of steroids in Hollywood and the fact he lost his gains like that, I'm putting money on juice.

Besides, one of the sources who said he's natty was his trainer
"I asked him if he was willing to take steroids, and he said no, because supes doesn't do drugs, and I said thats cool beans because I wouldn't train him if he did! Stay in school, and drink your milk."

>>42169565
Batman also needs to be fast and agile, so controlling his weight and getting rid of unnecessary fat is a must.

What are any good supervillian physiques?

>>42169359
Stop making stupid shit up, Mike

>>42169533
>>42169543
Lol that was not the same physique there's a good 20lbs+ in between the two. He also clearly didn't train much in between except for select roles. He got back to that NATM build for the first Fantastic 4 film but that was about it.

>>42169581
I'm serious, just look at him. He's 21 but he looks 12.

>>42169525
this is pretty much true of the western world in general (just replace studio with victorias secret)

>>42169586
and a good 10 years apart
in his other roles he was in shape
i would say athletic build
wouldnt have took him long to get to that captain america fresh out of the hyperbolic chamber look
also he said he had a pump going during that scene

>>42169572
Yes but being super lean effects strength and energy levels - if Batman wanted to be optimise strength while maintaining mobility he'd most likely be 12-15% body fat.

>>42169263
I don't hate them, it's just fun to talk about. Also gives you a better idea of what's achievable natty.

>>42169606
>f Batman wanted to be optimise strength while maintaining mobility he'd most likely be 12-15% body fat.

And he'd have visibile abs at those levels of bf.

>>42169605
I'm just saying he's not been training constantly for 10 years. He gets in shape for certain roles then stops training for months on end then gets back in shape for next role. Is it possible to transition between those two physiques by that much in that time - absolutely. But I don't think he has. I think he roids for a role then afterwards goes off cycle and does the same for next one.

>>42169628
Just not to the levels Hollywood or the comics would put him at. They'd put him at like 8% if thy had thier way to look like most of the other transformations. Batfleck def was around mid teens at best(hence why we never get a decent view of him shirtless in BvS (they just bulked him for the suit so he was super imposing, Bale prob around 15% in batman begins

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Achievable natty?

>>42169697
>blue
>red
>tatoos
the only natty thing here is his baldness.

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I'm glad that /fit/ is finally accepting that true muscle building comes from gear and not weight lifting.

>>42169709
Scott Herman is most likely natty. Only 175lbs. 5'9 - 15 years training. One of the youtubenattyillumanatti.

>>42169589
he looks just like a typical student from uni in my city
get out of your basement sometimes

>>42169701
Muh creatine

>>42169709
>Jeff Cavalier
>Steroids
oh i'm laffin mate

>>42169709
im pretty sure the athlean x dude is actually natty
dont personally enjoy his vids, but im pretty sure he put in years of work to get where he is

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John Cena always says hes natty. Started workin out since teens. Is he lying?

>>42169795
>those veins
really cogito my ergo sum.

>>42169714
>>42169744
>>42169747
You guys are taking the bait ironically right? Like that's how 4chan operates now, everyone's got seven layers of ironic proxies on their posts?

>>42169412
>Dat endomorph girl
>OH WAH AH AH AH
No I'm not having a stroke, I'm just getting down with the thickness.

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>>42169301

>>42169437
His physique looks the same, it's just lighting and pose

>>42170165
Superman has puny legs for better aerodynamics?

>>42169437
Wow, major lighting gains!

Most of those Hollywood actors are roided, especially Bale. But that's because they have short time window to get ready for a role. There's nothing special in their final physique and can be achieved natty when given time

>>42169412
This is total bullshit and ecto/meso/endo morph doesn't exist.

>>42169565
Realistically, watch Ultimate Beastmaster or American Ninja or whatever. The big bulky guys always lose those competitions and the light, lean mountain climbers always win. And what do the contests consist of?
>climbing
>jumping
>balancing
>swinging from ropes
All shit Batman does.

>>42170354

Okay so buff batman is wrong. He should be like Bruce Lee looking.

>>42169566
>medial deltoid
There's no such thing. Lurk more.

>>42170354
>>42170372

Batman also brawls though.

>>42169831
>>42169747
>>42169744
Jeff is one of the most boring persons to ever be on youtube, i'm 100% sure his last cheat meal was brocoli

>>42170392
>Bruce Lee couldn't fight
Hmmmmmmmmm

>>42170165
lol at those short arms

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>>42169213

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>>42169213
a year after lurking /fit/ and I finally understood what natty means.

>>42169263

Eh.. for me it's just about realistic natty goals for myself.

>>42170314
>Most of those Hollywood actors are roided

I'm waiting for someone to get hurt or sick and have some huge meltdown in the industry.

It happened with Benoit and wrestling - none of the "huge" guys are anywhere near as big as they used to be.

>>42169328
This is achievable natty within a year if you are naturally lean. I looked like this (except for maybe the upper chest) after 8 months of lifiting, with better abs.

>>42169589
So does every white boy

>>42169301
>average to low-tier genetics
Unironically shitposting this hard should be grounds for permaban

Obligatory "post body faggot"

>>42170531
He said a guy handsome enough to make millions of dollars for being handsome has shit genetics. Just imagine some fucking pale gremlin shitposting and that's your anon.

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Jason Momoa's aquaman achievable natty?

>>42169213
They all roid, there is no logical reason for them not to do it.

>>42169697
>>42169701

He's half the size in that movie than he used to be.

>>42170374

wow ur cool phaggot. u knew what I meant though.

>>42170673
yes, you lift for 10+ years and also have good eating habits.
or cruise on 600mg/week of test for one whole year

>>42169565
Batman is supposed to be the dc equivalent of captain america with his body at peak human conditioning, which is high muscle mass low bodyfat, fat slows you down

>>42169328
I looked like that when I was 16 and all I did was basic calisthenics. If someone looks like that on sterons they should probably seppuku.

>>42172337
>no pics

>>42170431
fucking kek

>>42171138
You can't presume to give people fitness advice when you're so ignorant. You have no credibility. Lurk more.

>>42170451
Probably going to be Bale, desu. The guy is seriously abusing his body for his roles, I wouldn't be surprised if he has some major cardiac complications well before his time.

>>42169257
wow rudd's got a bad frame

>>42171231

I thought having such a low body fat also lowers your strength? Fat people are strong and batman having more fat wouldnt deplete him so badly in his rough fights

>>42170403
Fucking lol. I still envy his life though.

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>>42169565
they put too much muscle in ben's batman suit that he end up having no neck, although he seemed to be able to move his neck at least.

>>42169257
>no delts
>looks like he only lifted for 2/3 a year
yeah he's natty

>>42170451
Benoit's problem was too many concussions though.

His brain was fucked up.

>>42169494
Chad on the left looks like a Joestar

>>42169795
yea he's natty, i own his wwe documentary dvds. he is honestly a cool guy. so was Brock Lesnar.

>>42174563
Nigga I went to college with Lesnar and he dropped off the natty wagon the second he finished NCAA.

Look at Cenas early days as The Prototype. If you think he didn't juice to the gills you are fucking dumb as a bag of hammers.

>>42169565
You think normies would understand that? if they didn't see abs they would say he's fat

>>42170403
It was a carrot cake in one of the vids. Carrot fucking cake.

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>>42169565
you're retarded, please stop posting

Just another bit of info.
My girlfriend works in film and TV, and she has seen first hand (on the new justice league movie) that they use literal prosthetic make-up to build up the muscle size of their male leads. Its basically a kind of putty they can spread over the body and then apply normal make-up to.

Apparently Chris Evans has this in Captain America, and if you look at the size differences in his shirtless and shirt on shots, you can believe it.

>>42169709
>Celery coon
Jesus christ what's with those malnourished forearms and wrists? literally curl bro mode

>>42174770
i-i think he was being sarcastic anon...

>>42169213
Hugh Jackman seems to be pretty clean. He only can deadlift 200 kg (or could, this was around 2016), bench press around 110 and squat around 160 kg, doesn't sound that strong. Also his body is far away from huge, on pics with normal bf you can see he is trained but not abnormally large muscles like Chris Hemsworth.

So yeah, Jackman is probably just someone who took his training serious, nothing abnormally huge about his body or that he is extremely strong, someone else could achieve this within 5 years or so (reminder, he trains since 1999 and until he looked impressive enough it was already 2009 (X-Men Origins)).

>>42169360
>>42169365
I may have a Deja Vu, but I remember exactly the same discussion with exactly the same words using a month or so ago.

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>>42174946

>this body
>over 45 years old
>natty

Literally not the remotest chance brah.

>>42174946
>someone else could achieve this within 5 years or so

Have you achieved it?

>>42169257
Looks natty. Probably did some expensive shit to lean down

>>42169388
Say he was training multiple hours a day and eating an insane amount of calories. Is his body going to recover even more quickly just because he's eating 2000 calories more than he needs to? I don't think so, lad. If training for hours a day and eating a ton would get you huge quickly, I'd be on that shit like white on rice. It just doesn't work the way you want it to

>>42175041
Almost, 180 kg deadlift, 140 kg squat, 110 kg bench press, but bodyfat percentage too high (around 20%).

>>42175207

The body I mean. Like in the above pic.
The stats he has are irrelevant as he doesn't train for powerlifting.

>>42174908
Ok sorry I may have autism. I wish foods were more accepted. I have heard outside the US they are. Not that I would take them but it would make sports more exciting if they didn't have to hide it.

>>42175227
Nope, like I said, I don't have visible abs since my bodyfat percentage is too high.
But he is still not that impressive (in comparison to a guy like Hemsworth) and don't talk stuff like "I builded 20 lbs muscle mass in a month", his scene in DOFP was a mixture of good lightning and water fasting for 36 hours (and he only had this body for like 24 hours). You can see that he is skinny, there is nothing unnatural about it.

>>42175302

Show me someone pre 1950 who looks like that then. Oh wait let me guess, "muh diet and training knowledge."
You're delusional if you think he is natty in the later wolverine films, especially given his age.

Also given he weighs close to 200lbs.. just lol.
show me a competing natural bodybuilder at that weight and bodyfat.

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>>42169301
>I know he's natty because he said he is
>there are people this retarded who post here

I mean, do you seriously imagine a scenario in which the actor playing Superman admits to using drugs? Get serious, man.

>>42175340
Eugen Sandow

And since I believe he was natural too (since he speaks even after retiring against drug using in sports): Steve Reeves.

Both were natural. Both have a way more impressive body than Jackman has.

>>42169301
>Superman
>average to low tier genetics

Gtfo.

>>42169437
Huge Jackedman was always huge and jacked.

>>42175407

Both of whom spent their entire lives training to reach their peak, while never achieving a vascularity close to that of Jackman (which before you claim genetics or dehydration, he did not have in earlier roles despite similar bodyfat level)

Nobody is reaching that body naturally, let alone in 5 years.

>>42169257
nothing impressive at all, my dad looks better than him, obviously natty

>>42169374
not really, it's just this angle

>>42175492

This. There is absolutely no way Jackman is natty for the later movies.

Absolutely no way, his body, especially at his age, but even at any age, isn't possible natty.

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>>42175486
You sure about that?

>>42169697
Honestly I think he's off the juice now. He's so much smaller in gotg than he was in the wwe.

Looking at this thread I wonder how some of you guys look like and for how long you've been lifting, because for example if you wonder if ant man's and spiderman's physique is achievable I really don't know why you waste your time lifting, like, what do you expect to look like?

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>>42175645
Yeah, look at those 100% natty traps. Batista is 48-years-old and still jacked after a lifetime of drug use.

Honestly, you're crazy if you don't think he's at least on TRT.

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>>42169709
Jeff and Scott are natty and they have good content.

Are you guys really argueing over whether a cartoon character made for children would have abs or not? Lmao

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>>42169466
Gal Gadot just got the role because she is part of the (((tribe))), she has literally 0 talent, she is just a coat hanger.

>>42169494
She borderline looks like a tranny

>>42169370
>Takes a long time, especially depending on where the actor is starting from. They have plenty of other shit to do besides work out all fuckin day.

Is this bait ? Actor is one of the laziest job in the entire fucking world, they have few weeks of shooting and that's it and even during these shootings they are not much sollicitated unless they have the main role and have a very picky director.

>>42174563

I can't choose to LMFAO between Brock Lesnar being natty or Brock Lesnar being a cool guy.

>>42170374
>9566
>>medial deltoid
Not sure if you're just stupid or trolling. You'll find both medial and lateral used for assessing/differentiating the different sections of the deltoid. Common Core Anatomy not treating you in its favor huh?

>>42175779
wtf is that actually him?

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>>42174819

You posted a fit guy that cares about his looks, getting laid, and doesn't have to demolish villains on a regular basis.

>>42174780

It would be cool to see. It's why The Dark Knight Returns version where he looks like he doesn't worry about his appeal as much seems badass.

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>>42175779
It takes at least 15 years to achieve this physique though and you need to start in your early teens. I wish I had a time machine and could tell my teenage self not to give up after our weightlifting teacher graded us off a bell curve and the only students who passed who the ones who juiced and lifted 200% more than their first semester lifts.

>>42170673
I'm literally going to go and see aquaman

>>42170439
you're fucking retarded

>>42169213
Most Hollywood actors are not natural. That's not to say that those physiques are unattainable natty, they just probably took roids to get it faster in time for the roles.

Look at Athlean X guy. He is probably the peak of Natty. I use that as a benchmark.

Jeff Caviler is his name.

What's the point of lifting natty if I can never reach superhero mode? I'm not willing to use steroids. Should I just be fat and enjoy eating shit?

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>all the low test betas ITT accusing skinnyfat actors of using steroids because they have 15 inch arms and a soft six pack

Top kek guys, thanks for the laughs.

Sometimes it's nice to be reminded that nobody here actually lifts.

>>42172648
I can see Ben Affleck getting issues too, he smokes a lot and his body kinda goes to shit in between roles.

>>42169412
Fucking jesus christ almighty you're still falling for this shit.

Take a buff dude (he ate a lot more than most people, but also did excercise)
Take a fat dude (he ate a lot more than most people, but also did very little excercise)

Give them ONLY WATER for however long it takes for them to get to a BMI of 18, with low as fuck bodyfat, then tell me which is more ecto or endo.
>b-but you can s-see it on the bone structure that he's just a SKINNY mesomo-
shut the fuck up, that's called having a broad shoulder width and good insertions, it has nothing to do with fucking "somatotype"

People have a VERY similar base metabolism, the REAL defining factor is HEIGHT. But here's the catch. These "ectomorphs" are usually portrayed as like 4 inches taller right? According to this calorie calc, a person at 180cm and 190cm where the only difference is the height, at 20 years old, the overall difference is 100 calories a day.

Of course, make the shorter person less heavy or taller person heavier, and boom the amount of calories change, but that's exacly it. If their body """"types"""" change based on how much they eat and work out, their metabolism changes too. If you are 4 inches shorter than someone, but he's slim and you're fat, you still only require about 300 calories less per day for maintenance.

If you're 4 inches taller than someone, but they're big and strong and you're a bony bitch, but you weigh the same, you STILL only have to eat 100 calories more than them (which eventually will turn into a lot more calories as you get bigger but again, regulating how much you eat is not difficult, and with enough time, getting enough food in your body is not hard either, considering you can heavily affect your own apetite depending on how much, what type of and how often you eat food)

The only things somatotypes do is make people disregard the extreme amounts control you have over what you look like (other than height) and blame it on genetics instead.

>>42169438
I haven't seen the movie, but the very apparent lack of muscle definition is laughable for someone playing Wonder Woman

>>42169412
Meme tier pseudoscience

>>42176201
Yes, he's just showing his gains, nothing wrong with it.

>>42176353
as opposed to figuratively seeing aquaman?

>>42169438
No. Not really.
The biggest chick who appeared in a superhero role, and was an actual bad ass threat was Carano.
And she's got the face and that thing bout her that makes me think I should try to rape her till she's preggers and falls for me and if she snaps my neck in the attempt then so be it.
HOT DICKABLE big bitches like that almost do not exist. They basically don't to be honest.

Even then, she got the "she's a dyke/she's a dude" jokes thrown at her in the movie. It was also obvious to basically everyone that the guy who was playing ajax was fucking her brains out.
Anyway...

The largest a woman should get for the superheroine role is late 70's early 80's female bodybuilder or cardio bunny who worked on her arms a bit, for the upstanding heroine thing
And thick brazillian girls and relatively thick instagram models for pure sex appeal.

That's it.

Anything else is unmarketable as fuck.

>>42177170
Yeah, but he's half natty as fuck.
Just enough to top him off every month or so. But not Kali muscle or Boston Loyd tier.

>>42177405
Can't forget the obvious bitch tits. Like..goddamn nigga holy shit.

>>42170673
In ten years and if you started as a young teen? Sure!

>>42171231
Low bodyfat isn't peak performance for anyone anon. 10-14% bodyfat is peak performance amounts of fat.
Anything over is getting fat and comfortable
Anything under is everything that makes you a man is shutting down.

>>42170403
Kek

What does a bad genetics naturally obese person look like if they natty train? Is it like those gay bear guys?

>>42178386
He doesn't mean the film, anon, he's going to the ocean to literally see aquaman.

>>42180101
Like an athletic mode dude who's got a lot of stretchmarks and loose skin.

>>42176321
>15 years

Wow, you are delusional

>>42176265
He posted an Olympic weightlifter, you dumb piece of shit.

They are all on gear. And why wouldn't they be? They aren't competing and not tested

>>42169320
Tren hard anavar give up lol