/fraud/ general

>>42168894
first for maybe 1000mg of dnp wasn't anons best idea

I am moving by flying in 2 weeks and I don't want to take my needles and gear with me. Want to use the rest of the stuff I had for it not to go to waste. Would it be bad to take ~600mg test and 250 deca ED to use my 5 remaining vials, probably going to run anadrol or dboil at 60-100 ED as well, have both and anavar but I might just smuggle my orals.

>>42168983
>would it be bad to take almost a gram of gear ED?
yes you faggot

>>42169038
>goooooodfuckenmooooorrrrrrrrning.png

>>42168983
just get it shipped to your new address

>>42168954
rip

>>42169038
Explain

how much vitamin c should i use for it to have a diuretic effect?

>>42168894

Rate my stack /fraud/

>anavar 80mg
>tren 200mg 3x week
>test prop 150mg 3x week
>HGH 4.8 iu daily
>arimidex .5 3x week

Did I do good? Sweating like a motherfucker though.

>>42170022
>NO SOURCE TALK

>>42169966

Chekd dub dubs and decent stack. You cutting I assume, try adding clen or t3

>>42170022
chekd and fuck you no source talk

>>42169564
Any pics yet ?


>>42170048
Get on the keto shampoo if you're dealing with hair loss. The other meme compounds mostly help with thickness imo.

>>42170127
masT tell me about Mast. Will it make me less beta?

>>42170153
the keto, pso, saw, biotin, silica legit grew back my hair while ON cycle, wish i knew about this shit early would still have my childhood head of hair

>>42170153
The shampoo is not meme, actually there a plenty of studies that show that if you combine fina with keto you get even better effects.

Finasteride is effective at reducing scalp DHT level,
but it does nothing to stop the remaining DHT from
binding to the abundant AR found in AGA patients.
Local ketoconazole 2% can potentially inhibit DHT
production and/or DHT binding to AR. Finasteride
therapy adjunct with ketoconazole shampoo
could potentially block the DHT pathway more
completely; however, further clinical trials are
warranted.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14729013?dopt=Abstract

Was it already thinning before steroids?

The other meme compounds are also backed by science, so i don't know who is the meme now. I rather not use fina for myself, because of the side effects and not able to donate blood.

>>42170157
Depending on the dose, just like tren. The higher you go the more pussy you become.

>>42170190
Let the man dream

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Gf is gone for the next month, doesn't do nudies, and I hate porn

We normally have sex twice everyday

Wtf do I do

>>42170204
What is mast best used for in terms of bodybuilding?

From reading profiles it just seems to be just for conditioning. Used at lower bfs for hardening/water not much a mass building or strength.

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>>42170322
>>42170322
>and I hate porn
Get used to it, since she is now on the bbc for a month and your ass will be alone very soon.

>>42170329
Correct. I would suggest only using it at lower body fat. I find that is makes me much fuller during my keto diet instead of only using test. I like the hard dick and some mental side effects of it at lower dose.

It's mostly for the looks, does nothing in regard to mass or strength indeed.

there is also some synergy between mast and test.

Pic i was first cycle on test + mast. I was hooked since then.

Gf strapped my shoulder. Hopefully it doesn't pop

My right glute still feels bit weird. I can't feel any pain but it feels weird. I don't know if i should pin it tommorow. Left glute was pinned on saturday. What do?

>>42170953
Pin quad

>>42171089
i've pinned quad once long time ago with prop and the pain was so bad it literally woke me up in the middle of the night and i tought my leg is going to fall off. I was unable to walk for 4 weeks. If you think it was bad enough let me add that i've pinned my other quad 2 days later and results were the same. I was walking like a retard around the gym for a month but no one ever asked me about it.

testosterone is turning me into a racist srs please help

>>42170397
Nice crocs you got there bud.

>>42171211
Get better at pinning quads or pin delts

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Still no matches. Fuck this shit.
To be completely ignored by over 50% of the population like this, its gotta be more than Im ugly. What could it be, but since its digital and irl, it cant be some smell or my nose looks weird from the side or something. Fuck man

I should drop the tren, this has me depressed

>>42171440
Have you posted a facepic in fraud jerry-sama? I bet you are a qt

>>42171263
i can wear those and still look better than you, while you do you utter best to be a 2/10 i wear crocs and still be a 10/10. Nothing was hurt

u mad? because you have all the right o be fucking mad


>>42171440
Jerry i have seen a face pic of you. Do you still wear those glasses?

>>42171257

Explain

>>42171452
Thats what I used to think too
But empirical evidence doesnt lie

>>42171472
Yeah
Hate wearing contacts

>>42171481
I from eastern europe, before testosterone I used to only think gipsies are subhuman in my head, now i tell everyone that when it comes to talking about it with no regards for consequences or shit, I am also more impulsive. My estrogen is in check

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>>42171488
Post pic bb

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>>42171495
>increased testosterone makes you more right wing.

Hmmmmmm.

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Fucking told you guys. Tren is gonna be responsible for me losing my virginity.

Now I just have to bee myself

>>42171521
What about the swole left? :^)

>>42171525
don't offer to pay the bill. make her pay that shit, assert your alpha presence

Why does DNP give me a rash in the SAME exact spot every time I try it?

I have run dnp a few times. A year ago I ran it for the 3rd time, and on my left leg there is a circle around 1.5-2 inches wide that got a rash.

Since then I ran a couple days at 500 (backed out cuz of sides and didn't need more anyway), and a couple weeks at 250.

Every single time within half an hour of my first dose, i get the rash in the SAME exact spot, and swollen allergic lips

Why always the same exact little spot and lips? People say I can take benadryl for future runs but the sides are bad enough already, won't you basically be a corpse if you are constantly on benadryl?

>>42171550
Also makes my face swollen as fuck, beyond bloat. The allergy type of swollen, makes me look disgusting

Is there a chance this allergy will just go away if I wait a year or so?

>>42171550
My first two runs were also way way way more tolerable than my last runs, this is probably the allergy making me feel like shit too right?

>>42171440
I'm telling you Jerry it's just tinder that is fucked for some reason. All the other dating apps I'm getting great results. Got three dates with bangable girls lined up for all my free time next two weeks. My profile is set up with like three pictures I took in one day, super low effort. Not a Chad either, average face, above average physique but I'm like 15% bodyfat for now.

>>42171521
Right wing just means smaller government not thinking other people are sub human.

Tfw just checked wikipedia article and its cucked af

>Right-wing politics hold that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable,[1][2][3] typically supporting this position on the basis of natural law, economics or tradition.

>According to The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Politics, in liberal democracies, the political Right opposes socialism and social democracy. Right-wing parties include conservatives, Christian democrats, classical liberals, nationalists and, on the far Right, racists and fascists.

>Classical liberials
Tfw classical liberalism is dead across the left.

No wonder theyre batshit crazy these days and its keep escalating worse and worse.

Also >racists and fascists
>Racism and facism is a right wing thing, we're all anti-racists and anti-facists you priveleged white cracker. Black people are too dumb to succeed on their own they need hand outs not education and jobs. #PunchANazi
Triggered desu, not even right wing, only ever voted left wing (Aus).

>>42171545
I'm not so sure we'll make it to the restaurant desu anon

>>42171550
I always get a short lived rash/mild hives in the inner elbow of my right arm. Goes away without any antihistamines, but it is definitely strange that I've gotten the same reaction three times literally years apart.

>>42171499
Never

>>42171525
>asian
>allison
Yeah she a thot
Just dont be too beta when she goes to fuck you

>>42171577
Y-yeah its the systems fault
Psh

>>42171440
Despite there being more women then men, the dick economy is fucked up and devalued online.

Guys need to stop validating low value women for one.

Though the biggest driving factor is women's behavior itself creating this.

They also need to stop bending over backwards for women.

Women reinforce it as a vicious cycle by ignoring most guys - the consequence is that the frequency of messages from a increasing bigger number of guys goes up but quality goes down.

I mean thats just natural - what are you gonna do if you simply get no responses? You just move on. There is no point in spending more time and energy and effort into crafting a message when 95% of the time its ignored. That forces a strategy to increase number of women contacted to match the odds.

>>42171440
Also see >>42171662

>>42171644
Look I'd show you my account to prove what I'm talking about but you know how it is here. If you got a throwaway email I'll show you my setup

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>>42171544
I've literally only seen that one guy as the poster boy for the swole left, and he looks terrible. Everyone else I've seen trying to "get buff to punch the Nazis" looks like either a pile of garbage or a grunt skeleton enemy in a generic rpg.

>>42171550
>>42171559
>>42171575
Isn't DNP pretty much literal poison?

>>42171583
I'd say being right wing and becoming a little more racist go hand in hand, assuming you're more actual right than center right.

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>>42171644
>Never

>>42171583
>Triggered desu, not even right wing, only ever voted left wing (Aus).
Yeah I've noticed this a lot too, used to date someone who will inevitably end up like this. It doesn't really matter if you're particularly right wing, as long as you're more right than they are you're a fascist nazi that deserves to be punched.

>>42171644
>tfw all the matches in your area are black and /or single mothers at the age of 19-22
"Hey my name is Shannon, I'm 20 years old. I have a kid, he is 5 years old and he is my world! He will always come first so don't make me choose. I like chilling out and smoking weed #420blazeit
I'm a down to earth nice girl but if you piss me off I can be the craziest b***h you've ever met!
No hookups."

>>42171662
Well obviously
Women arent virgins past the age of 10, but si many cant drive by 30
Then they complain and say theyre the victims!

Fuck it

>>42171738
Are you poorcunt?

>>42171738
Also forgot to mention the baby was mixed which meant she fucked a black guy when she was like 15. This is nearly word for word one of many similar profiles I've foundon my area.

>>42171753
It's getting a little too MGTOW in here for me, but I pretty much agree desu. I've lowered my standards for women before and it always comes back as a feeling of regret when I think about it now
>dated a 3/10 fat art student for three years
>fucked a nearly 300 pound woman before
>fucked a black chick on her shitty stripping site for money

I want to die.

>>42171760
It's me, forgot my trip. Is my autistic writing style that recognizable?

>>42171616
Mine is very bad and the allergy sides seem to scale with dose. They also are by far the worst the first few days

And why the FUCK did i just have to solve TEN FUCKING STREET SIGN CAPTCHAS TO POST THIS SHIT EVEN THOUGH I GOT THEM ALL RIGHT

>>42171782
Idk I've just never settled. Online dating is the worst in my experience. It's better to use friends or rl connections for quality women. Of course, you should expect to find a quality of similar quality to yourself. If you're a 4/10 neckbeard with muscles expect a 4/10 beast with a nice ass or something.

>>42171782
>It's me, forgot my trip. Is my autistic writing style that recognizable?
You always complain about black girls bb, how is the cycle going? Already kick in?

>>42171782
Youre the exact reason a girl has never held my hand.
I hope you get cancer and lose your gains

>>42171782
G U L A G
U
L
A
G

Stop fucking up the dick economy

>>42171782
>>42171864

Stop lowering your standards for women, opt out of hypergamy.

I'm on test p 100mg EoD for 8 weeks and winstrol for ED for 5-6 weeks, I'm getting a free vial because my supplier is genuinely a nice guy, should I increase my dosage to 150mg Eod and do 9 weeks or should I do 100mg Eod for like 11-12 weeks?

>>42171782
>Lowered standards
My opinion is if the girl doesn't give you that little bit of fear and anxiety when you first meet or think about making a move, then she's not worth it.

Don't have to be like sweating and stuttering but no nervousness in my case means I'm not actually that attracted, just kinda bored/lonely.

>>42171662
i fixed that shit with putting "I don't message first" on my bio, this weeds out the trash doesnt it?

>>42171920
Fear of loss is a driving component in any sales arrangement and women are experts at maintaining fear of loss, knowing or not. Maintaining fear of loss causes the assumption on your end of value. So 100% I agree.

>>42171917
12 weeks

>>42171909
>Stop lowering your standards for women
I fuck tranny hookers cause I cant get any, how am I lowering my standards?

>>42171909
>>42171920
>>42171925
>>42171956
You guys need to fuck off with your internet dick measuring contest

>>42171834
I agree but it's hard to find similar friends when all of your friends are also losers. I do have one girl who was giving me pretty strong hints but she also has a boyfriend and is a sloot so idk what to do there.

>>42171854
>You always complain about black girls bb
That probably makes me racist but man I just do not find black girls attractive 95% of the time.
Also I don't want to say yes or no bc I'm not sure what's placebo and what's actually the test. I did have a pretty kickass deadlift day yesterday though so maybe it's kicked in a bit. Really regret not kickstarting with something but ah well.
I'll get back to you in a few weeks.

>>42171864
>>42171909
>>42171920

I'm better now but man early college me was such a beta that he'd take literally anything. If I met myself from 3-4 years ago I'd probably punch that cunt square in the jaw for having no self respect.

>>42172006
Oh I mean I'm 100% autistic weirdo, the gf tells me so daily (she's fucking weird too tho), but my buddies a such a wide variety of people in terms of personality and accomplishment that there's never a drought of new introductions. Networking and mingling is fun. I'd say branch out with your friend group honestly. The gym, despite what /fit/ says is a great place to meet people of all varieties. It's one of the few places I personally still see a social club environment that doesn't consist of drinking or debauchery. Most men and women welcome a "hey that was a great set, I'm anon. Mind if I work in? Btw whats your ig"?

>>42172047
>tfw you will never have an equally autistic gf to shitpost with
I have made friends at the gym, but my gym is 90% men and the women that do show up are either married or blaaaaaack. 80% of my town is black so it's not a surprise but it still makes it hard for me to find anyone I'm interested in. The only way I'm gonna find anyone even semi passable is to leave my shithole town.

Also I'm beginning to remember that one time I was hitting on a married chick in the gym and it makes me die inside.

>>42171970
Ypu jelly of what a chad I am?
Handholdless incel with 5x more tranny dicks than girls kissed?

Fraid I might...steal yo girl?

>>42171488
You also wear them on your pics?

otherwise get more stylish glasses


>>42171920
>Don't have to be like sweating and stuttering but no nervousness in my case means I'm not actually that attracted, just kinda bored/lonely.
I never felt love so it seems.

All woman i dated were nervous but i never felt the same way.

I never found love, but only love myself.

>>42172119
But you can be friends with anyone! I made friends with a youth pastor at the gym. Bumped into him at the grocery a few weeks ago, and he offered to grab my energy drink for me. Then he offered to hook me up with his sister who cuts hair for a decent price. There's tons of value in people besides there sexual value my dude.

tfw trusted meme source now has anamorelin

Its supposed to be like a jacked up memek677

Reee all these things I want to try

>>42171550
>that retard who doesn't take his anti histamine on dnp

>>42171588
that's cute anon, we both know you're way too much of a pussy to make a move that early. you're definitely not losing your virginity on your first ever date going to a restaurant.

>>42171644
buy Tinder plus or one boost

trust me

>>42172227
>Paying for online dating
>Calling others out on being virgins
Online dating is fucked anyways. I get 3-4 matches daily on tinder but they never reply when I message first and all the ugly skanks shoot me a one word text thinking thats all the effort they have to apply to get my dick.
Chicks IRL are so much easier to get if you have the balls to approach them. Women are very submissive in person.

>>42172272
yeah I pay ten dollars a month for Tinder plus and get laid minimum 4 times a month. do you have any idea how much money I save on drinks and shit?

and it wasn't really an insult, the guy I quoted is a virgin going on his first date. he's not gonna fuck her right there at her dorm 5 minutes after meeting her, he's gonna go to the restaurant with her and be beta about it. that's just how it works, he's not gonna undo 20+ years of being a beta with 4 weeks of tren

>>42172272
I never approached a woman irl, I was always scared but they always approached me. I was never aware of the fact that we had to make the first move because i was introvert and a scared beta. Holy shit if i were fucking ugly i would still be a virgin till this day.

I missed so much pussy because of the betaness, life is though

guys im fucked. Im officially losing hair now. The first 6 months since i started BnC my hair was thick and juicy, but now, despite all the supplements and other stuff i do for my hair, its falling out like crazy and i can see my front hairline getting thinner and thinner.

I wanted to BnC for years ffs, not go back to natty lifting after lmao 10 months.

Im fucking fucked, i cant go back to natty lifting. I have to be shredded 200 lbs for spring break next years.
I also know im gonna get a huge acne breakout when i PCT.

Fuck my hair genetics for ruining everything.
At this point im seriously debating taking MF finasteride

>>42172443
aren't you doing masT's meme stack too?

>>42172272
Did you try the meme stack with pumpkin seed oil?

I think sarms (not s23 and probably rad140, but like ostarine and lgd4033) are scalp protective like they are prostate protective while on roids.

There was a guy on roids and finasteride that added in sarms and had regrowth while on it. Which shedded when dropping the sarms.


What are you taking? Some roids are worse than others for hair loss for people with MPB. Also fina wont stop all roids from acting like DHT in the scalp (some bind without under going 5ar conversion).

>>42172473
fuck wrong reply

>>42172443
see >>42172473

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>>42172470
Its my meme stack, not masT's you imbecile.

Yes im doing it, i was doing it since years + other "meme" shit that you cant even possibly comprehend. So for everyone who wants to help me out, dont bother. I know more about hairloss than you do. And it was working great, even when i went on gear. But now since like 2 months, my hair started getting thinner and thinner and i can see it with my bare eye.

im so fucking pissed right now. No point in being jacked if you are a bald faggot.

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>>42168894
is bimbo still alive

>>42172473
As i said above no need to help me, i know everything about hairloss, hence i successfully stopped it even tho i was losing hair like crazy.

I cant afford SARMS. I have to save up money for spring break like crazy.

I had a 500mg test blast for 4 months, and now i have been crusing on 250mg for 4 months.

>>42172509
yea, he just doesn't post here now that he's not in an abusive relationship and doesn't hate his life.

>>42172522
>I have to save up money for spring break like crazy.
how poor r u

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>>42172545
I wish he was in abusive relationship and hates his life

>>42172522
$45-$60 for a gram of LGD
Can take 5-10mg a day, lasting 3 to 6 months.

How the fuck you afford 500mg test then?

>>42172522
>>42172502
>I know everything
>I know more than you
>I stopped the hairloss
>Cant actually stop his hairloss
>Dont bother to help me

I hope you go bald then fag. But not like completely bald. Just on the top, but still have hair just on the sides like Costanza, so people can see the stubble/follicles even if you shave it that you have a Costanza hairline.

Tfw shed lots of hair brushing hair in shower every day since 18

Tfw 30 and hairline still the same as 18 despite that (must simply regrow)

Tfw not even Tren, sdrol, mast or anything fucks up my hair or changes it at all.

Tfw grow long luxurious hair

>>42172569
Im in a AUSBILDUNG. (its not a thing in murica).
I will earn alot of money once i finished it, but right now im poor.

>>42172576
>this

>>42172579
Why do people always assume everyone on 4ching lives in the states.
The only SARM i have access to is ostarine. With 100 tabs a 5mg. for 60€.
Meaning it would last me maybe a month.

Also Ostarine or LGD helping with hairloss is the biggest meme i ever heard.

Careful dont take any offense from me. Im in a life crisis right now so i might be rude.
Fuck natty lifting. Whats the point. Im young, i cant afford waiting years to become thicc.
Maybe i have to accept the normie standards and be satisfied with everyone thinking im a monster.

>>42172607
You lack the skill the successfully interpret my posts and now you type your cute little green texts and feel like a big boy.

I stopped the hairloss with ease. But going on gear for 10 months is what killed it. Nuff said.

On my first cycle test and dbol

4 weeks in

>tfw I cried for half an hour while listening to Beyoncé. . .

The fugg is wrong with me? Maybe my AI is bunk tbqh

>>42172509
>>42172545
>>42172576
bimbo still posts anonymously. he's really easy to id.

>>42172671
or, you know, you're just not dosing it high enough.

>>42172682
I'm taking 12.5mg aromasin ED
Should be overkill @ 500mg test /20mg dbol right?

I already upped it from 12.5mg EOD

Weird this I don't have any other high e2 symptoms. No bloat, no acne nor gyno
I don't feel bad either, I just have these weird emotional oubursts ( normally I never feel too much, let alone express it so intensely)

>>42172227
>pay the jews more money to be ignored by stuck up bitches
Yeah fuckin right

>>42172377
>they always approached me
What alternate universe are you guys living in

>>42172654
I brought it up and I dont live in the states. Those good rep sources selling it for that price ship internationally.

Meme magic is real. Those sarms are prostate protective, which is an antagonistic effect at the receptor level (selectivity), like how serms produce an antagonistic effect in breast tissue.

That experience of others tells me its having an antagonistic effect on the androgen receptor in the scalp (hair follicles), thus scalp protective. Which makes sense as they are highly selective to skeletal muscle for androgen receptor agonism.

Its your hairline so do what you want with it.

>>42172671
>>42172710
No, even 20mg dbol fucked me up. EOD 12.5mg didnt fix my nipples on 20mg dbol. ED 12.5mg fixed them up after a while but the other issues remained - sky rocketed blood pressure, head aches, cant sleep at night, among other things.

Anadrol gives me none of those issues. I think Anadrol acts like a progestin, as Im very estro sensitive and can dose it high and have zero issues, so Anadrol has no estrogenic effect. Its gyno potential must be through acting like progestin. I guess I am not sensitive to progestin, as high dose tren gives me none of those issues either.

For people like me who are estro sensitive, anadrol might treat you way way better than dbol.

>>42172713
it's five bucks nerd

>>42172759
A total waste of 5 bucks

>>42170153
>>42170048

tell me anon, did you get an intitial hairloss before i started getting better.
If yes, when did the real noticeable changes start happening.

>>42172163
This is true but not getting laid ina while tends to skew your perspective to getting laid as quickly as possible
>fatty girl has been snapping you to convince you to come over and pound her
Okay maybe I'm not that desperate.

>>42172671
At least cry to heavy metal and be a man about it you pussy.

>>42172713
It's not an alternative universe, it's just a side effect of leaving humanity behind.

Fuck i have been thnking about something.
Many people experience a huge amount of hairloss when taking finasteride or Minoxidil.

I have been taking 9000mg Saw palmetto and 3000mg pumkin seed oil for many months now.
May my hair get worse now because im on the verge of getting it all back in a short time?

FUCK IM SO CONFUSED ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>42172843
>Losing all your hair to get it back

Gotta confuse the follicles right babe

>>42172843
>Many people experience a huge amount of hairloss when taking finasteride or Minoxidil. BEFORE IT GETS BETTER.

Forgot to add that

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>tfw im this miserable right now

>>42172866
kek

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>250mg/ml 10ml vials
>should be able to get 10 injections
>Looks there's only 1 ml left in it despite today only being my 8th pin

My only explanation is that I spilled some when I was fumbling around being a pussy on my first pin. That's really the only way this could have happened.

>>42172890
>everyone on here is fucking dutch

kek

>>42173085
nah, I'm guessing you're an idiot who draws to 1ml, switches to injecting needle then pins, right?

you're losing about .1ml per injection if you don't pull back on the plunger to get the oil in the needle

>>42173099
that .1ml depends on the size of your drawing needle though. at 21g 0.5", about .1ml is stored inside the needle. more if your drawing pin is larger, less if it's smaller, obviously

>>42173085
There's always a bit of dead volume in the needle/syringe unless you airlock, and there's gonna be some oil adhering to the sides of the vial. You can never get all 10ml out of a 10ml vial, that why you order more, or order from a source that overfills their vials to 10.5 or 11ml.

>>42173099
>nah, I'm guessing you're an idiot
Correct.
>you're losing about .1ml per injection if you don't pull back on the plunger to get the oil in the needle
Ah there we go. Makes sense. Welp, no fixing it now. I'll just do better from now on.

>>42173115
Need to find me a source that overfills. I'll work with what I've got and order more if necessary.

>>42173097
>>42172890

Idd. Wtf

EP is een kut UGL kaalkopje

>>42172843
>>42172867
>>42172890
>being this paranoid about hair
come on bby, it's just hair. i'm sure it's not that bad. my forehead is creeping at the temples pretty fucking bad too but literally no broads care as long as you don't look like you've got a serious combover going on

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glute still feels weird and im too scared to pin my quad

i don't know what to do

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>>42173251
five sets of stop being a faggot x F. just pin your quad or VG and get it over with, you're a big boy you can do it

>>42173251
Just pin your quad.

I don't understand the hate for pinning quads. That's usually how I pin and it's been fine for me. And if someone like me can do it and be fine then you'll be fine doing it once or twice.

>>42172807
Didnt you just start pinning?
>just be yourself
>just lift bro

Fuck off

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>>42173242

Man not all of us have chad tier skull shapes.

>>42173278
i did my first ever shot in my quad 2 years ago and it went like this >>42171211

25G needles are for quads, right?

>>42173411
I use 27g for everything

>>42169966
Would really love to see the physique of someone who feels they require that much gear. That anavar and tren are going to destroy your lipids in a matter of a week, and it blows my mind that regular joes (not pro bodybuilders in contest shape) run this shit. Retarded.

>>42169966
Also anavar can cause GI bleeding at high doses. If you have any sort of bowel issues like IBD you are at risk of some really bad damage.

You've been brainwashed my friend. Literally cutting time off your life instead of just putting in the work and having discipline.

I love gear but you really need to post your physique and performance ... Unless you are top percentile you're a dumbass

>>42170153
I stopped fina and I actually think my hair got thicker off it, and I got noticeably leaner and harder without changing anything else. If I used it again id do the expensive topical But the pill is way too broad. Lowering systemic dht is sketchy and has major drawbacks. I feel more like a man now.


I honestly don't know why I went on it. I was paranoid of hair loss because I had one major shed after I had an allergic reaction to a medication, so I hopped on, plus my dad and uncles are all bald. But I'm 31 now and still have the same hairline as when I was 19. I just shave it now anyways, having nice hair is a meme for normies. Men really shouldn't give too much of a shit past a certain age, plus I get tons of attention and mires. I used to be so self conscious because of the huge scar on my scalp from a car accident too but I just stopped caring. It's so liberating.

I will say though that after I shampoo and towel my hair my scalp itches for like three seconds which didn't happen on fin. But I notice zero shedding.


Hormones are weird anon. I don't think Dht is be all and end all of hair loss. After switching to a mostly vegan diet and way less meat and grains and supplementing natural Anti inflammatories like turmeric I noticed I stopped shedding so many hairs

>>42173489
Maybe I'm a weirdo here but he's running 600mg tren and 450mg test pw. That's not exactly a lot, I know a few bodybuilders trying for their pro card who regularly blast three times that. The var and HGH might be overkill yea, but as far as oils go he's not that crazy.

>>42173618
switching to a vegan diet helped me with hairloss alot too, nice to hear that you had the same experience.

>>42173215
>>42173097
im not dutch, i just buy from there.

>>42173242
im sorry but i fucking hate your mindset. Its not the end of the world but wymin are going to notice it immediately when they see you.

I went to an party a few weeks ago with some old lads. One of them lost a huge amount of hair in the past few years we havent seen each other. Literally everytime the dude went outside for a smoke, everyone would immediately start pointing it out

>HOLY SHIT DID YOU SEE ANON HES BASICALLY BALD NOW.

fuk off

>>42173347
My mom literally told me I had a disgusting skull shape when I first started shaving my head but no woman I meet other than her seems to care. My pathetic ex friend would talk shit too but he's a pathetic baldlet trying to hide his bald spots with his thin hair and has a soccer mom gf and I'm biccing my head and literal 17 y/o gym bunnies from high school are stoppig to stare at me when I just walk on the treadmill. Thank u god for finally blessing me after all y sufferings.


Change your mindset and you will exonerate your spirit man. I'm 100x happier now. Why obsess and value something that has the potential to go? It's the real redpill my man

>>42173648

It's been normalized. I get unbelievably shredded and pumped on 25mg var and TRT. People don't know how to push themselves. Tren is 90% a salve for bad diet and training. It's the ultimate meme steroid. Have fun with the Alzheimer's too.

>>42173340
It was a joke jerry, plz no be mad.
>just be yourself
I hate this meme, myself is a nerd who can only really speak knowledgeably on nerd shit.

>>42173411
You guys keep saying this makes me paranoid that I'm doing this shit wrong somehow. Like yeah the muscle is kinda sore for a day or two but it's not "wake up in the middle of the night" bad.

>>42173659
Yeah being bald only really only works if you're like in the army or you're black, but even then people are probably gonna point it out.

>>42173680
I'm not saying you need a gram of gear to look good, but what he's taking really isn't unusual for an amateur competitor.

>>42173719
Don't be yourself, be the best possible version of yourself.

>>42173719
theres such a small chance you will have such an asthetic headshape that will fit a bald head.

I also need cute curly boy hair to compensate for my otherwise douchebag appereance. If i looked like a faggot sure a bald head wouldnt do no harm. But imagine someone who looks like hes on the verge of stabbing someone + steroid monster with a bald head. Thats just not asthetic at all.

>>42173660
>Ex friend

Hahahah are you 13 years old, anon

>>42173262
Why is that shopped?
The original photo has a "police" logo on the riot shield.
That happened in kenya

>>42173680
Post your body and you us how it's done big boy

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>>42173743
I am enlightened now

>>42173753
idk man I'd love that aesthetic. Looking like the biggest baddest motherfucker in the world has it's perks, and it'll help you get those grills that only go for bad boys.
> If i looked like a faggot sure a bald head wouldnt do no harm.
Every faggot (both figuratively and literally) I've known has had some swooshy over the top hairstyle, so I feel like you might have those backwards. Still yeah the going bald thing sounds like shit, hope you find a solution my dude.

>>42173659
Hey man I can only speak from experience - I have some buddies who are full bald now and not a single one of them has had issues picking up broads before or afterwards, but if it destroys your self confidence than you're right - you're pretty much fucked. hate my mindset all you want but telling me to fuck off isn't going to fix your chrome dome pal

>>42173782
I'm 31. He abandoned me in my time of need yet I had quit my job and moved back home to take care of him when he was suicidal. He cut me off because his gf didn't want him hanging out with an ex drug addict Even though I tried to become a better person. He's a vain pathetic insecure baldlet who cries about how I'm nailing tight teenager pussy while he's become so dyel you can't tell he used to be the next Arnold but gave up because his new cunt gf with her soccer mom haircut told him she doesn't want him to be big.

If you think that doesn't qualify as ex friend you are a normie

I'm in here trying to tell ppl to love themselves no matter what their hairline is like and espousing spiritual awakenings for positive change and you are picking on me because I said ex friend.

Have a nice day you negative energy vampire

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Just got back from pharmacy wit 25G needles. Im nervous and i probably won't sleep well since pinning my leg is the first thing i will do in the morning.

Guy with pectus excavatum here, will roids help me build a bigger chest? For some reason I've been having a really hard time doing so even though my form is good.

Also, any frauders with pectus here? Did you fix it?

>>42173985
it's just going to make it look worse actually

>>42173811
i dont know what you like about girls being scared off you. I remember when i was on my blast fully bloated 200lbs with a douchebag haircut and i met one of my buddys gf's the first time. The next day i met up with my buddy and he basically told me "my gf doesnt seem to like you, she says you come off as a douchebag."

even tho i didnt even talk to her LMFAO. Didnt say a single word we saw each other for maybe 5 minutes.

Being jacked + humble clothing that still reveals gains + nice guy looking haircut = win in life

>>42173824
because you or your friends have one flaw which is the hair, but everything else is on point. Dont tell me you are ugly dyel manlets with no self esteem. You guys prolly have everything on point except the hair, at which point it doesnt matter anymore.

I know how i look like with a bald head (shaved the hair off completely once with a razor) and its horrible.

It works for you, but it doesnt for me. Im not chad enough to pull it off. Im not jacked enough to pull it off. And now that im going off roids it will be even worse.

>>42173806
In 6 moths after my 140mg test cup, 600mg primo e and my gyno reveal protocol with Ralox is done I will. I'll probably run 4-5ius of seronos and maybe throw in 300-500mg shb cypionate as well. I'm going to look amazing. I will also be on OxyContin and cannabis oil, probabaly regular Anal sex with men as a reviewer and a pitcher too. A little heroin on tough days and maybe some sort of amphetamine and like 160mg raloxifene to keep heart gels thy. If I can mix anavar into an injectable pre workout without super toxic solvents

>>42173954
>can't tell he used to be the next Arnold but gave up because his new cunt gf with her soccer mom haircut told him she doesn't want him to be big.
This awakened a deep seated rage within me that I didn't think was still there.

Fuck people like that, if you're gonna date or marry someone who lifts weights and gets big then BIG SURPRISE: they're gonna work hard to get big. You don't fucking start a relationship to change the other person, that's fucking retarded.

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>>42173985
building muscles helped with my pectus, pic related, it used to look much much deeper.

dont listen to >>42174003 , the logic makes sense but in practice the opposite is the truth

>>42174036
Nice man, your chest is basically my goal. Chest routine? Also you night want to get a tan, I am as pale as you and I've never seen anyone as pale as me.

>>42174036
That's some goal body shit, mate.

Natty?

>>42174036
what's your height and weight because you look natty

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>>42174053
im pretty pale but it vastly depends on the lighting.

in this pic i look normal

>routine
lmfao, i just do a shit ton of incline dumbbell presses
no bench, no flyes, nothing. Just incline DB presses

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>>42174063
200lbs 5'11"
i just started roiding anon, dont be rude.

do i look natty in this one too?

>>42174061
not natty

>>42170204
Ok so now you are trying to use science? Even talking about the androgen receptor, wow!
Still a meme stack

>>42174078
>>42174091
Stack? I want the natty look

>>42174109
literally just 500mg test blast, for 4 months.

>natty look
literally everyone, including my friends, including everyone i meet, thinks im on steroids.

so lower the dosage or something

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>>42174109
do i still look natty here?

>>42174141
Mirin

>>42174141
yes

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>>42174159
fuck, your standards are too high, anon.


LETS PLAY A GAME FRAUD.

>Spot Moosey

Hint, im high af in this pic

>>42174159
>3d delts
>looking natty
To the average person on the street, yeah they think you're natty. Anyone else in the gym? They know you're on something.

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>>42174189
Are you the one with black semen on your face?

I always just pull the 'ol "must be your shit genetics" card lmao

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>>42172843
HAIR LOSS IS THE WORST FEELING EVER

i rather get fucking fcuekd by ten black dicks in the eye till i die

>>42172890
Keto shampoo is the only one that really helps with hair loss imo, the other one just help a little with hairloss and a lots with thickness

>>42173215
>EP is een kut UGL kaalkopje
EP IS KUT LMAO

EP MADE ME A GOD

>>42174189
>implying you're not the guy who's eyes are blacked out

ayyyy lmao

>>42174150
thank you.

I dont know, but i kind of like you. Seems to me you have a good heart, the most valueable charackter trait

>>42174141
>>42174189
>>42174210
>look literally the same as you did when you were natty
>do I LOOK natty??

Is anyone else cursed with elbow pain? Any supplements or ointments you know of that help?

>>42174229
you look better without a beard

NO BODY PICS = DYEL
NO FACE PICS = UGLY

WHERE THE PICS AT FAGGOTS

speaking about balding. My balding manager, i just had a fucking sick urge to fucking put 10 bottles of monoxidi and keto shampoo over his head.

>>42174349
No, i think i look better with a trimmed beard imo

>tfw you think you look like shit with a beard but your gf says it makes you look really sexy
I can't tell if she's trying to trick me into looking ugly to make me less attractive to other girls or if I just can't judge my own looks properly

>>42174404
lmao your gf is making you insecure.

YOU ARE YOU, look at yourself in the mirror. Do you like you? YES? Then fuck everyone else. NO? then change to the desired picture.

most important is to be happy be yourself. Do whatever to achieve it, take fuck supplements to fix you hair, plastic sugery, dick sugery. Just fucking do it.

It's better to regret what you have done than what you haven't. Live by that motto and you feel much better.

>>42174458
>whole list of things you want to do/have done
>dick surgery

Kek please don't tell me you are considering.

Also work those shoulders harder.

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>>42174488
>Also work those shoulders harder.
my shoulders are bigger than your whole body

AND NOT EVEN PUMPED FAGGOT, imagine.

YOU HEAR ME I AM FLAWLESSS

i wil do everything to achieve it, nobody can stop me, FUCK YOU

I will only get ear surgery, i measured my dick last time it was 7 inch x 7 inch girth

>>42172139
Really? If you didn't really feel anything why'd you even go? Just wanted some ass?

>>42174517

This pic: >>42174229 makes your shoulders look small as fuck compared to the rest.
No need to get that defensive. You're like one of those shirtless dudes ready to fight at the first word that gets thrown their way.
You're the biggest guy on /fraud/ no need to defend yourself like that.

>>42172890
Hey I recognize that picture :^)

Honestly MasT's supp stack minus the shampoo did enough for me to get back in shape and some more.

>>42174572
Just someone that does shit for me to fuck it.

No but really I maybe felt it for 2 weeks and then it was gone.

The only way to feel really love for me is up the dose.

>>42174579
I am just kidding m8. You're my only friend i have.

No hard feelings. I agree with you, my tricep is overpowering my shoulder in that picture, which is the reason my shoulder is looking smaller I totally agree.

The only weak points that i have currently are my chest and calves still.

>>42172367
Yeah you were 100% right. I thought she was inviting me to her dorm but was just wanting a ride lol. Honestly not even disappointed I'm more trying to like get to know how women think more so a normal date is perfectly fine.

Went ok I guess. She was from Western China and shit so pretty cool to talk to. Learned a lot. Made loose arrangements for a second date we'll see how well it went on her end when I hit her up later to make more solid plans.

Can't really call me a beta though cause I did exactly what I wanted and intended. I didn't really want a super easy fuck. I'd just hit up bar sluts and shit, I get hit on when I go out with friends because tall and swole, but I don't like drinking and shit plus I actually value having connections with human beings rather than empty constructs of purely physical attraction. Gotta have that emotional connection mang.

>>42174626
Calves are easy just be a manlet like me and let gear do the work.

Ps. I do mire those triceps hard

>>42174626
>calves

Slow controlled heavy farmers walks nigga.

>>42168983
What literally 600 mg ED ?

>RIP anon, send my regards to zyzz

>>42174658
i thought you needed to be fat to get free calves.

But i got them sort of decent size. Still not happy with it, but with the right mindset and dedication i can get them where i want them.

I don;'t have the progress picture on this pc, but every time when i bulk they grew significantly.

>>42174686
Toe press on the leg press machine is god tier imo

everything till failure. EOD, before training 5 sets. Same approach i used for my forearms

>>42174720
My calves overpower my weak quads, comes in handy when wearing short pants, people will assume you have decent legs.
I don't ever train them directly yet those fuckers wont stop growing.

>>42174720
>Toe press on the leg press machine is god tier imo

But you're training the wrong muscles.

The gastroc doesn't make your calves look big.

>>42174235
I try to be nice? I also lack common sense and can be an idiot a lot of the time, so there's that too.

But you're chill my dude, and again I hope you figure out this hair loss shit. For your sake and also for mine since I just realized that ever male member of my family has had hair thinning around my age.
>>42174517
Idk why but this whole thing made me laff, thanks masT.

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Also semi-related to the tinder talk, came across this specimen in my tinder adventures today.

I need to get out of this town before I fucking kill myself.

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>fucking gf
>about to climax
>feel cramp sensation at the back of my thigh
>get wierd adrenaline sensation
>as I'm climaxing the worst pain of my life goes all the way down my hamstrings and calves in the form of muscle cramp
>cry out in pleasure

It was probably he best orgasm I've ever had in my life, the combination of pain and pleasure was so... fucking satisfying. it was like this wierd rush

Anyone else experienced this? I really want to repeat this, is there any drugs I can take to induce cramp?

>>42174645
>plus I actually value having connections with human beings rather than empty constructs of purely physical attraction. Gotta have that emotional connection mang.

but how would you know, you're a virgin. you have to actually try something to see what you prefer mang

>>42174923
Clen up buddy

>>42173530
>Also anavar can cause GI bleeding at high doses
true? do you consider 80mg/day to be "high"? Was considering stacking var with babby's first test blast at 100mg/day

>>42174929
Because I have zero desire to fuck a hooker or pick up drunk sluts at bars.

I'm not a pussy I'm just awkward and inexperienced. I know what I want.

>>42174957
Its okay anon I never understood the whole hooker thing.
Just try to connect with people, you'll find someone one day.

>>42174740
With me it's the other way around. my fucking quads make my calves even look smaller than they are. I am not sure i have can wear short pants

>>42174834
I don't know mang, they made it really look bigger. get a really good contraction with that exercise.

>>42174840
my life is just one big laugh. We can just laugh together, it makes it less worse for me

>>42174957
>Because I have zero desire to fuck a hooker or pick up drunk sluts at bars.
Man I thought the same thing until I actually did it a few times. It actually feels pretty fucken gud senpai.

>>42174938
Var is a polishing compound and honestly for women. Winny works way better, more strength and shreds.

I'd go with drol/dbol/sdrol for a first blast, you want to grow. Get cut up later.

>>42174957
Oh anon, it's not as black and white as fucking hookers and fucking your wife. It's all good and do you, I'm just saying sex is really not that big of a deal once you start having it - in that some of my best experiences have been with LTRs, and some have been with women I've never seen again. Don't pigeon hole what you 'know' you want until you have enough experience to actually know, that's all - much like >>42175023
said

>>42175030
thanks for your advice anon, will do. i just didn't really want to mess with the extra aromatisation of those orals as well as the liver problems (heard that var was different in that it's metabolized/processed by kidneys)

also I think a trip/name here was touting QoL improvements with var which had me interested. might just stay away from orals for now then. already nervous about how I'm going to figure out AI dosing on first blast - right now I just take 6.25mg asin on pin days (cruise) for peace of mind but I know I have to be more vigilant on a blast

>>42175023
If I wanted 'good feels' I can easily pick up an opiate and just nod.

I like complexity and emotion and shit. I wanna be fucking nervous and awkward, it reminds me I still value things in an increasingly material and substantially empty world. Maybe I'll change my mind later but for right now I know exactly what I'm after. Or rather I know what I'm Not after.

>>42175030
Thoughts on epistane?

>>42175071
Oh I bet. But also as a virgin just fucking some slut I feel will be a let down. If things line up and seem right I'm not against it, but it's not what I'm seeking.

>>42174840
> I also lack common sense and can be an idiot a lot of the time, so there's that too.

Doesnt matter, being a good human is way more important. I have a friend who is a braindead pot head who legit seems brain damaged at times and we make fun of him all the time for it.
Guess what, hes my best friend and out of all my friends, i like him the most.

>>42175113
If you're this conservative about your steroids just stick to test/nand/drol/dbol. All very well studied and will get you anything you want out of a steroid, especially if you're not going to try competing.

Bloat doesn't exist at low enough bodyfat, so don't worry if a compound is 'wet'. Just cut until you look dry. Arnold spoke the truth when he said, "if it jiggles, it's fat".

>>42175151
To be fair, do you actually have the capability to walk out today and find one of these 'drunk sluts' and get her to fuck you if you wanted to? Or are we debating a non-issue here?

>>42175194
How you describe treating your friend makes it seem as though you aren't a great person. Especially coupled with your crippling vanity. Interesting framework you have. Cheers.

Any uk bro's here ? immigrating from south africa tomorrow and need a connection when I land to continue cycle, any help?

>>42175422
Nog or actual South African?

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>>42175151
>But also as a virgin just fucking some slut I feel will be a let down.
As someone who recently did this, I can tell you it WILL be a let down.

Especially if you don't realize she's a slut.
Especially if you try to change/save her from her slutty/degenerate ways and habits.
Especially if you fall in love when she doesn't know what love is.

Basically what you're doing in terms of getting to know women and their nature is really important and without it you can really fuck yourself up emotionally. She had all the "signs" but I had been living in a room with nothing but books and vidya for my whole life so I threw all the "redpills" about women out the door because "this one is different - we are meant to be together."

It's a beautiful feeling to have, just ends up horribly when you have it towards someone incapable or not interested in the same level of connection.

Do it your way. Learn about them. It is so easy for them to lie and deceive you but I've heard that some girls do not have that nature. I haven't met one yet IRL outside my own family but the fucked up thing is that having your first few intimate experiences with low-tier girls just fucks your worldview of all women up, you start wondering if that duplicitous evil nature is present in all women and some are just better than others at hiding/suppressing it with the cultural memes imparted to them by the strong men in their life.

>>42175244
Perfect, thank you. Conservative is the perfect way to describe the approach I want to take for now. I have been really interested in NPP and will definitely be planning to run that on blast #2, whenever that is.

Orals are often used as a kick-start, are they ever used at a tail end of a cycle? I can imagine that "cutting" compounds might, but in terms of drol/dbol, is there any sense in running them at the end (mostly I want to get comfortable with e2 management on blast dose before adding anything else).

>>42175508
lol faggot

>>42170190
I think im using nizoral, which is a keto shampoo for dandruff control. So that helps. Also taking pumpkin seed oil and biotin. All that on top of fin, so its been growing pretty strong and the bald spots in front have almost completely grown back. Im afraid that its going to get worse if i dont have fin because i dont know how legit the studies are. I figured it couldnt hurt to add.
>>42170204
Im actually natty, was going to be doing my first cycle after ordering from ab, now that its gone and have no idra about sources i figure ill just wait. Not that important to me. I was going to do it because it was easy and risk free. Like i said im more concerned about my hair, kek
>>42172785
6 months in. You could tell at 3 months because it stopped falling out and coming out when pulling. It just gets stronger and starts to fill back in so long as theres still hair in the area.
>>42173618
Sounds like you never really had an issue and got on it preemptively. Thats not really a good way to go about it.

>>42175500
whitey with german passport.. currently cruising on test e

>>42175532
Goddamn it REEEEEEEEE

Is there any cure? I've been banging random girls since then and nothing seems to help. Slowly developing a very very mild cocaine habit too, which concerns me. Am I just a faggot for life? Is this what masT means by "beta genetics"?

What is the cure to falling for a slut? I feel like I wouldn't want to even approach a respectable girl now because all of the fucked up trust issues I have toward women. Is distrusting women a sort of "power level" you have to hide? I tell girls straight up that I think they're liars and I expect nothing out of them. I think that's what makes them want to fuck, because I don't judge them negatively if they end up being liars or sluts - it is like a drug for them to feel good about themselves while having such a nature. Best of both worlds for them.

>>42175421
>crippling vanity
literally what

>treating your friend
I do it in a very very joking manner. Im not serious at all when i make fun of him. I laugh with him and clap him on the shoulder afterwards.

Its not like i have to prove myself to you, but i treat every person, including people i just met, way way too kindly. Has backfired too much times already over the years. The same-minded people will like me for it, but everyone else will see it as a weakness and abuse it, thinking they can treat me badly. Thank god everyone thinks im a steroid monster so no one dares being rude to me even when im nice.

Perfect harmony imo

>interesting framework
why so?

>>42175410
I'd say that maybe not "tonight" but that if I put in effort it wouldn't even be a few weeks. Would just require getting a little more comfortable in the environment. I get agressively hit on all the time by chicks I don't find attractive and sometimes girls will get all anxious when I'm talking to them, in a way that they seem awkward not like they're trying to GTFO, I've experienced that kind of nervousness too and think I can spot the differences.

With alcohol involved and in an environment where girls are looking for a ons, I doubt my inexperience will be any significant barrier.

Remember where we are, I definitely stand out physically. And I'm really not a pussy, if I get strong signs from someone I'm attracted to, I can act on them.

Maybe I'm wrong, but all this is to say I really doubt I'm r/incel level of loser. Just someone with a fucked up past and playing catch up with the middle/high school dating games I never really played.

did that 1000mg anon die?

>>42175789
>playing catch up with the middle/high school dating games I never really played.
Yeah, this. Maybe it's just me being bitter but it feels like without this knowledge I'm just asking for trouble interacting with a woman who's been at it since middle school. Unspoken expectations (or lack of the same), standards for "equitable" conduct, etc. are not things that can be picked up so easily by someone like me who was previously just sticking to academics and being DYEL.

>>42175700
You spent half the thread freaking out over hair. Normal people don't do that lmao

>>42170190
how long ago did you lose your hair? was it just lost during that cycle?

>>42168954
you alive faggot?

What's the best oral that'll make you look lean (specifically your face) and not fuck your blood pressure or have lots of sides? I'm 6'4 140 lbs but a close up side profile of my face makes me look like a chubby person and I don't like it.
>inb4 eat before you roid

>>42176139
maybe winny?
also it could be that your estrogen levels are bad?
or maybe you just got a genetic dispostiong for fat to accumulate in your face? IDK

>>42176139
Balance your minerals.

So a couple of raw sources sell estradiol.
What exactly would one use injectable estradiol for aside from a funny prank?

>>42176139
Aromasin and less sodium

>>42168954
>>42176001
>>42175856
im alive, 2 days later and the heat is way down but no more 102+ degree fever

still need constant fan but I can eat food now without vomiting and drink

>>42176488
You completely stopped taking DNP right? Or are you at 500mg a day still?

How many times a week do you guys train each muscle group? I go to the gym everyday while on cycle but I only train each muscle group 2 times a week. Should I increase to 3?

>>42176610
About 3-4x frequency but each individual day I don't go 100% all out. Only 1x per week do I go for full and complete destruction.

>>42176630
Right, gonna increase to 3 then and see how I get on

>>42176269
>a funny prank
HRT
which is pretty much the same thing

>>42175508
Peek is that you?

>>42176284
this is shit advice. he'll probably start sin like it'll help his face, which it probably will do a little initially but soon he's gonna find his cock doesn't work because his e2 is in the toilet. there could be another reason why fat accumulates on his face faster. and in most circumstances just getting fit helps a lot (see: the guy who had fat hips at 135lbs and after juicing/lifting had no hips at 180).

>>42176657
yes but don't tell anyone

>>42176584
I stopped because I thought I would die

>>42176733
That's good.
I hope that you learned something from this experience at the very least. And you'll probably lose a fair bit of weight from this too kek.

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Losing my hair on drol and also paying $80 for test now... on the bright side still pulling girls on tinder but the new chick is getting back with her loser ex it seems so that sucks.

>>42176725
Haha you have a pretty distinct post style and habits.

You can run orals literally whenever. They'll work the same. I would suggest giving them a full 4-6 weeks, though. Also don't frontload a shitload of test and eq and then take 100mg adrol on top of it. That's a recipe for crazy blood pressure among other things. Will never make that mistake again, took me over a week before everything normalized.

/fraud/

I ran into an issue today

My blood pressure is a lot higher than normal

heart beat is alright but bp seems a bit high

>>42176898
youll have that. thankfully my hair is fine on juice but I get absolutely ridiculous acne on my back/shoulders. the dose of Accutane I need to keep it at bay is so high I can't afford it regularly so I can't even show off my shoulders, sucks

that physique is obtainable naturally, what a waste.

>>42175508
When determining the dosage, timing and duration of compounds in a blast, you first have to have a goal in mind.

If your goal is adding mass, which it probably should be if you're blasting test and an oral, you can cycle your orals in and out as needed.

For example
1-20
Test e 500mg/week

1-4
Adrol 100mg/day

8-12
Dbol 50mg/day

16-20
Sdrol 20mg/day

I've also seen blasts where the person alternates orals and tren a (since tren can be difficult to manage for some psychologically). So in the above example, 5-8, 13-16 tren a 350mg/week.

>>42177092
>orals for 20 weeks

it's not like I needed a liver for anything

>>42177100
4 weeks on 4 weeks off nigga
Plus a (hopefully) 20 week long cruise after a blast like that

If i pin in my butt, what negative effects can happen?
Infection?
Bruises?
More?

>>42177115
oh right I'm retarded

>>42177143
You'll gain an incurable and implacable lust for tranny cock

>>42177151
Too late

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>>42176908
Yeah, figured as much. I love /fraud/. Real life and girls are no match for how comfy it is here. I feel like if I had sucked it up and posted the road I was on a few months ago this thread would have set me straight and I'd have saved a lot of time/heartache.

But I learned a lot of lessons and there's no substitute for direct experience. Wouldn't have gotten that pre-TRT, not by a long shot. Trajectory was bleak. Fuck cortisol and fuck endocrine disruption.

Thank you for the advice on using orals. I'll definitely do the full 4-6. It's more a matter of making sure that I can reap their benefits at the tail end.

What's your fav oral for bulking? I'll probably save any oral for blast #2. I haven't even done #1 yet so I shouldn't get too ahead of myself. But if I'm feeling comfy with E2 management I may go for it.

Most interested in any orals that provide quality-of-life gains. I read somewhere that adrol makes your joints feel good, so that's cool. Really wish I could remember the namefag who was talking about anti-depressant effects of var.

It feels nice to be remembered so thanks for that <3

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>>42177092
>you first have to have a goal in mind
Critical, thanks - should have specified that. Have been in info collecting mode for so long that now I need to be more goal oriented instead of just reading about shit for the sake of it.

>If your goal is adding mass
>you can cycle your orals in and out as needed
>examples

Quality insights/info - thank you! I haven't actually seen this but it makes a lot of sense, though I'd probably be paranoid and have to run a lot of TUDCA and get bloods before starting a new oral.

Unless that's overthinking it? Fuck overthinking.

Filling those empty periods with tren sounds exquisite. I think for blast #1 I'd want to just do one oral just to get a sense, a real physical/immediate/visceral sense, of what it means for a compound to be "harsh."

Hear it thrown around so much with orals and tren but haven't experienced it and don't know what my reaction would be. You've given me a lot of food for thought, thank you!!!

>>42176488
glad your alive. taking that much was an idiotic mistake, you almost died.
do you plan on staying off of it permanently or going back on it (at a lower dose though kek)

>>42175121
Kill yourself anime nerd virgin fucking beta

>>42177542
kek
keep us posted about whether you grow upper body hair at any point on cycle

>>42177198
I'll be fully honest and say I've only used adrol. It does literally everything I want an oral to do, and the only real side is blood pressure.

when transitioning from a long harsh suicide cut with almost 0 carbs to a refeed + bulk, do you do a full body workout first or just jump into your normal 5 day split?

just been lifting very low volume heavy compounds

if full body, do you time it before, after, or during the day of the refeed? assuming i am already 100% depleted even without the workout

>>42177233
Get a verified account at gh15, go to top pupil q&a and go to the 'Dr. X' thread sticky.

You will definitely enjoy it.

>>42177769
DESU I'd try adding in carbs while doing full body or a U/L split and focusing on conditioning (eg prowler pushes or hill sprints) to get work capacity back to where you want it.
I don't think it matters that much though.

>>42177548
I don't like anime and I'm not a nerd. No one is pure alpha or beta anon, you can only act one way in every moment.

My life is moving forward, and I'm experiencing new things. I'd say that's a success.

Why do you want to throw stones? What about my posts bother you?

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Hey MasT, is my hair way beyond gone to try your hair stack?

I've been like this since I was 20 (25 now) and have been regularly shaving it. I don't look horrible bald but I get in these habbits of being to lazy to shave it and go over a month of looking like that creepy uncle everyone seems to have.

>>42177471
that dude is a pussy, I've done 1g a day for 8 days. fl was on 1g for weeks and that guy was 500 fuckin pounds of fat making him even hotter

c-p did 1g for what, 2 weeks? glands was somewhere close to that also

>>42177808
It's cheap and has very little sides I don't see why not.

>>42177806
>>I don't like anime
complete bullshit

>>42177808
I'm sorry

>>42177815
dnp dosing in the literature is expressed in mg/kg

a 500lbs fatass taking 1g is the equivalent of a 200lb person taking 400mg

>glands
too soon

>>42177759
>I'll be fully honest and say I've only used adrol. It does literally everything I want an oral to do, and the only real side is blood pressure.

Sold, I'll order some the next time I buy some 'rons. Or better yet, might get raws and cap them myself. Thinking that's the way to go even for oils the more I think about it.

>>42177785
I have a gh15 account and just saw it. The 70-80s protocol? Thanks for the recommendation. Definitely going to read this. Love the posts there I just stopped being as regular because I realized I was reading about stuff that I was so far away from getting into when I was deep into those threads about slin and GH etc.

>>42177808
Try dermaneedling too maybe? No idea if it's too far gone. Also, you gotta be more specific when you say MasT stack for hair. There's the keto shampoo + biotin + saw palmetto + pso one. But then for beard growth I believe he used minox too. Have you tried either? Best way to find out is try. Isn't too expensive.

Be careful with the minox though should you go down that path. Look up its effects of blunting collagen synthesis.

>>42177907
Just make a suspension for orals and use an oral syringe

>>42178041
Good point. I already have a bunch of those 30 mL amber vials from when I was buying memeK from Cap and all the suspension supplies so there's really no reason not to. Also the better accuracy of volumetric dosing (vs. mixing active with filler and then capping) soothes my autism

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3 pins deep into first cycle - 500mg of test e/week

Do you guys do anything about PIP? Fucked up and pinned my right ass cheek the first 2 times and 3rd pin was in the left.

Also would you guys recommend adding anything to this cycle? Really just planning on keeping it simple and am really thinking i'll just do 500mg/week for 12-15 weeks. Trying to put on 10-15lbs of muscle without looking too "cloudy" or "like a roider" if that makes sense.

Also if it helps:
6'1 ~185lbs probably about 13% body fat
Bench - 300
Squat - 405x3 (box squats cause of fucked knee)
Dead - 500

>>42177808
look at the bright side

At least you look normal balding

I can never go full bald or i can get my scalp skin replaced but i will never do it

the day i lose my hair from trt use is the day i wear a hat for life...

>>42178345
AIIIIIIIIII

>>42177907
sdrol or gtfo

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>>42168894
>tfw about to take a federal drug test on test-e and adex
After research I feel I don't have anything to worry about, but I'm still scared as shit to fail.

>still no matches
I started cleaning myself out for a trranny hooker after the gym, but Ive gotten good at stopping myself

Women bs really lights up my jaded incel on tren. Im glad I have idolm@s to chill out, also looking forward to dropping tren for a bit on vacation. My lipids wont recover but hopefully my brain chemicals will, atleast a bit

>>42178345
If you work the area afterwords, pip lessens, but since you have virgin muscles youre gunna get it regardless

>>42178885
Try something else out, tinder is pretty shit. Bumble/OKC/PoF/Match are all decent options.

>>42178885
so you dont have a gf?

>>42179037
He's dating Azusa

>>42179050
not sure what that is but ok..

>>42179083
It's a cosplaying tranny.

>>42171583
>only ever voted Left wing (Aus)

Get the fuck out Melbourne cuck

>>42179177
Coming from the l i t e r a l cuck, that's funny.

>>42179200
Rather be that then vote for anything that resembles the political left

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>>42178922
Arent the last 2 behind a paywall?

>>42179037
Yeah azusa

>>42179083
Shes my waifu

>>42179282
Fucked if I know, I just meet chicks IRL but I've heard good things from friends from all of the above. Besides Alex was able to pull a half decent chick off PoF and he was a rat-faced meth addict with delusions of grandeur.

Been on 500 tren e for 4 months, mainly while cutting, got 1 month left then I'm starting my bulk.
Should I bulk on 500 tren 250 test + adrol here and there or 750 test + adrol

>>42180201
Test + Adrol imo. Tren is great for cutting and recomp but I've never really had good results bulking on it. That's just me tho.

>>42179282
Jerry you have a lot of experience with PSMFs, what would you recommend for a refeed?

so you're saying that if i'm already a bald fag i got nothing to worry about?

thinkin of shoving 150mg test up my ass on a weekly basis

>>42180286
You could go balder I suppose (in fact I think that that's likely)
If you're going to do weekly shots I think you'd do better to use 250mg of testosterone undeconate btw

>>42180429
i just want minimal side effects/damage.
considering that hair is no longer a concern too.

>>42180478
Up the dose fag

Any1 compete here? Or have any nice knowledge/reads on the subject? Preferably a pov from the competitor. Contest prep, diet, compounds, dosages etc. Trying out physique 85kg next year, going to work my way up to classic.

>>42180872
lets see your calves bb

>>42177808
I would recommend you go all in for this. Meaning use all the hardcore stuff there is around; duta, fina, keto, monix. even try some dermarolling.

I would only suggest it to either maintain or just grow back some hair back on the temples and reverse the thinning and stop the hair loss. That's what it did for me exactly. I am not sure how it will act in your case.

Just try everything you can get your hands on, you have nothing to lose. Any reason why you didn't act sooner? It's really important to act really fast when you notice hair loss or thinning or face the consequences

>>42180872
Lol the only thing I know about physique is that if you've got wheels you'll get fucken fed because nobody else does.

>>42178885
Jerry just get as big and shredded as possible, shave your head, grow a beard and lose the glasses. Get a tear tattoo in your face

>>42181006
wat

>>42171440
Holy shit, i got like this too!!!!!
Okay, you ready? Here's my advice.

Keep the tren. When i did my cycle, halfway thru week 4, i started noticing my increase in sexual urge, but also my positive gains in face and muscle. My body was changing. It was weird cause women who knew me were more atteacted to me, but new women were not. It finally dawned on me that the old birds were being drawn to me cause they could see a change in the old fat me vs the new trensformed sick cunt that i had become. New women don't know what you used to look like, so they are only gonna be drawn to you AFTER you have cut. It took ne a few weeks of creating and deleting dating apps to realize this. Fuck the old broads in your life, during cycle. Then move on to better chicks AFTER your cycle.

Tren is amazing. Stay cool and enjoy the new you

>>42181462
you don't know who you are replying to retard, he is a roiding virgin loser who owns multiple anime sex toys and has used dating profile pictures with anime in them...

>>42171525
You can't be yourself on tren. Youre a better version of yourself. A trensformed version. A hotter version.
You see it. She sees it. We all see it.


Fuck some bitches now, anon.

>>42181479
I don't keep track of people who visit here

>>42181546
good on you, dont let this retarded ass shithole rub off on you. i just check this thread very rarely when i am bored since it's partially what got me into roiding

>>42171440
Tinder can be a pain in the balls sometimes, it will take hoes a while to like you cause they either aint using the app or tinder has you lower in the pecking order.

Could try using the boost, you get a free one erry month. What range is your distance set on? i usually set mine on like 5miles n just see who has liked me, its usually fat bitches ha!

Anyone tried albuterol over here? Seems like a milder version of clen without the nasty side effects and also has positive effects on your cholesterol.

Clen seems too nasty.

Looking to pin test e soon, missus wants a baby inside her and is complaining about chance of infertility.
Lay it on me brahs, any real chance of this happening?
Plan to use Nolva and HCG for PCT

im coming off cycle with only DAA as pct
Will return with results

>>42182101
I use albuterol daily for years and no side effects

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noob here. whats a good first steroid cycle.

>>42182606
For what purpose? Does it to any thing regarding to fat loss if you have your diet and training on point?

Wat kind of dosage do you use?

>>42182622
1-4 oral
1-16 test
17-18 nothing
PCT 40/40/20/20 Nolva

No one told me prefiltering gso with a 0.22 and 25ml syringe was going to be this slow and requiring this much downward pressure reeee


Should have bought 0.45 for pre-filter

>>42182650
i only have about 12weeks time left.

>>42182742
Orals and short esters

>>42182742
don't bother

>>42182688
I just set a weight on top of it and let it go. I wonder if the 60ml syringe I got would be faster.

I remember pinning oil once with a 29g. 1ml syringe I couldn't do it. 3ml syringe no probs (more plunger surface area contact perhaps).

>>42182650
What's your hair loss stack brobeans?

>>42180076
He also fucjed random fat bitches at bus stops

>>42180267
Like what food? Stick to carbs, try to get micros you know you need, I eat lots of bananas n veggies

>>42181462
Ive been on tren for like 24 weeks lmao

>>42181648
50 miles
50 goddamn miles

>>42182688
Use a caulk gun

>>42182809
I lowered the dose because my hair is getting out control.

The stack is:

3 x 1000mg pumpkin seed oil pills each day
5x 450mg saw palmetto pills each day
1x a week keto shampoo
10mg biotin ED

>>42182853
lower to 1mile, all the girls showing up in your stack further than 1mile away have already swiped right on you

>>42182878
>Lower to 1 mile

Can confirm

To all you online dating faggots:

How many times are you deceived by pictures via these dating tools. I never dated via this medium before but i am just curious, because i can go from a 3 to a 8 depending on good lightning and angles.

If yes, what do you do if you meet? Just run away?

>>42182878
What
I dont get it

But Ill just delete it, this is stupid. Should have never tried a real profile, way too tied to my ego, clearly my only wirth is as a weeb novelty

>>42183042
Jerry stop the tren it's fucking with your mind

>>42183042
I fail to believe you literally can't get a single match. Post your profile bby come on, we can help

>>42183042
The way the tinder system works has changed since the earlier days.

Make sure you swipe left on bitches you wouldnt dick. Dont just swipe right, you have a new profile and its very low value to start with and at the bottom of the queue, swiping right all the time and not getting matches lowers the value even further then your profile gets shown to others even less.

>>42183094
It doesnt matter if I drop it, Im woke now
I am off it for the next 2 weeks though
Then its back to tren and
pmsf cause im still fat

>>42183191
>since youre not a chad fucking everyone on tinder no one sees your profile
Ive been goin left on black chicks though

>>42183042
lower max distance to 1 mile.

check distance of every girl that now shows up. if a girl further than 1mile away is showing, that means Tinder is showing her to you because she already swiped right. it helps to get to your matches first

>>42183191
this is quite literally the opposite of how it works

your profile starts at the top of the queue when you create it. it's true that mass swiping devalues it, but the first 24-48 hours are the best hours for a profile. that's why resets are so good.

>>42183252
ultra super protip for people who actually wanna get laid using Tinder (I do and I'm honestly not very good looking), assuming all the basics are properly handled (good pics, half decent bio, etc)

buy Tinder plus. reset your account and before you start swiping, use your free boost. swipe right like a madman for the 30 minutes duration. this should get you between 5 (if you're ugly) and 100 matches (if you're a true Chad).

when you've gone through all your matches and you're no longer getting new ones, reset and start over from step 1.

it's about ten dollars a month (you're mostly paying plus just for the free boost that comes with it) and I, as a solid 6, still get laid at least once a week with non uggos/fatties. offline dating is old and busted.

also I'm 26 and most of my hookups are between 18 and 21

>>42182650
I use albuterol for asthma.

I take two standard puffs of ventolin, daily. It probably helps with weight loss because I was quite lean when natty.

>>42183230
Get your focus game on Jerry.

Get on that low carb + HITT CARDIO after you training. Time to get shredded now

>>42183326
Pic of your face?


>>42183330
>>42183330
yeah but that could be also be caused by some other factors of course.