FRAUD: SATURDAY EVENING ALPHA THREAD

>>42151637
7 year itch

>>42151738
I could not have it said it better Jerry. It's true all of it.

>>42152333
Why worry about it? What the fuck you're talking about

how long are you two together? after years you will discover the flaws. NOBODY IS FLAWLESS YOU FUCKHEAD

Foam roll / mobility incl Upper back and glute activation, knee warmup
Treadmill warmup 12min
Overhead squat 3-5 sets 5-8 reps
Forearm twists, curls, roll ups
Bw Dip " "
Bulgarian squat 3-5 sets 8-12 reps
45deg unilateral hyper " "
Leg raise - neck bridge

Tricep ext / bb bicep curl
Forearm circuit repeat

30-45 min cardio
Cool down stretches


Autistic enough?

Is cutting on gear a waste of time and gear? I didn't even started bulking yet but im thinking if going overboard with food do me more harm than good.

>>42153448
Seems stupid. Just don;t overthink everything.

>>42153486
No? you want to perverse muscle

Retarded question but the half life of aromasin is around 1 day, and I have 12.5mg caps.

If I take no ai my e2 is high, if I take 12.5mg even every other day, it gets too low.

What do I do? I have heard of taking it only on pin days, but wouldn't it just be high again on the days right before I pin and take ai?

>>42153548
I mean it's a waste when you let yourself go on a bulk. How low i can go with calories on enhanced cut? Last time i had to stop at 1300 because i had no strength and will to live anymore.

>>42153397
What are your future plans? Is there really a point where you see yourself coming off of roids forever? What are you gonna do then?

What is the optimal cruise length between blasts?

In4 mast is jelly of a diabetic

>>42153795
>I mean it's a waste when you let yourself go on a bulk
Wat

>>42153397
Jesus

So, how do you manage your blood work? Are your cbc ok?

Waht's your AI like?

File: giphy.gif (905KB, 320x200px) Image search: [Google]

905KB, 320x200px

>http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/diet/household-dust-could-be-making-you-fat/news-story/392d985d139bb7cbe3bd303fb7fcd48b

>>42153815
I just i hope i die in my sleep one day

>>42154039
But he looks perfect

>>42154106
I dunno i have to do bloods soon. We will see if I am dead or not. Donated blood for the first time after one year bnc recently rbc was 0.3 under the norm. So that was alright.

>>42154249
Jelly of donating blood. I'm not allowed to anymore cause i'm a junky

>>42153743
split pills

>>42154249
Just wondering

Any ED issues? Do you use cialis ?

>>42154345
cant split caps...

>more and more this thread is just natties spewing bullshit

>>42153430
Ahaha you are so dumb. Please seek help ;-)

Calling Dr. sludge

I have some questions for you

I noticed your post recently on another /fraud/ and I couldn't get back to you....

Ok so guys, say I'm starting a beginner cycle of 500mg test e/week, what kind of bloodwork and how often would I need to get done?

PAGING CATPISS

CHECK YOUR EMAIL HOMIE

PAGING BIMBO

PLEASE TEXT CATPISS AND ASK HIM TO KINDLY CHECK HIS EMAIL

>>42154039
I'm jelly, all that free/no questions asked slin

File: 1499296495512.jpg (2MB, 2304x3164px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2304x3164px

Where do I get a gf with a puffy vulva

>>42153397
/fraud/ betas btfo

>>42153854
Time on~= time off
But if you get bloods once your shit is ok

>>42154294
Why? What do you do? Inject hiv?

>>42154367
Not that I know of. Really often my heart skips a beat when I take to much caffeine with it. Beside that, nothing that I know of. I never took crazy doses or compounds. I eat only clean food, take supplements and do lots of cardio. But we will see what my bloods say,since i didn't check them yet.

would lab/vet grade needles work fine?
or is there something about them bad?

>>42154384
I am happy you put that smiley at the end, otherwise i had i really hard time to interpret that sentence. I appreciate it. We need more of you. If you want to change the world, start with yourself. Hahahaah xd xd ;) winky winky

>>42154446
Wat. All slin is OTC here. No questions asked. Costs peanuts.

>>42154457
>Why? What do you do? Inject hiv?
Worse. Testosterone.

>>42154514
You are welcome. Never change bb

masT you should get some better pictures

>showed your pics to gf and told her thats how I want to be
>>NOOOO HE'S GROSS
>Too bad

I know she's lying.

>>42154416
I was thinking of just getting my test levels checked before and after, is it necessary to get my levels checked during the cycle also?

>>42154552
Girls are so weird
>I want to get bigger
>"okay yes please do babe I'll cook for you and text you reminding you to eat. getting you big for me is my responsibility, do you want me to buy gear?"
>hey your ass is huge can we get it bigger though?
>"unf yes I should just walk around and knock things off counters and shelves because my ass too big right? Split panties in half?"

Everything's a fetish woof

>>42154515
What kind of madness is that. Over here you can just donate while roiding. Only not if you use fina,duta, Accutane or GH. That's why iam happy I never went on fina.

>>42154552
I don't have much stored over here. Just look at that Dutch bodybuilding site. Woman say that because she doesn't want to insult you and make you feel bad about yourself. When i often see couples irl. The woman then sort of laughs fake to make her boyfriend feel better about himself. After he's not watching she's checking me out secretly.

>>42154591
"synthetic test isn't the same as normal test"

Obviously is but people are dumb.

They might think you're just a junky too and might be taking other things. So they'd rather just avoid you.

>>42154552
Idk i think when they are in that hormonal bullshit mood they mean it, like a teenage girl with a crush would think the guy is perfect in every way

Except after that when she is tired of you she goes and hops on the bbc of a guy who is "eww too big"

>>42154515
Is slin OTC in america?

>>42154591
I don't get why people don't just lie about what they fucking use

>>42154603
Women are crazy. I've had that weird honey moon attitude last 3 years and I've had it last 3 weeks. Really luck of the draw.

>>42154416
Testosterone, Total/free
Sensitive E2 Assay
CBC (Compete blood count)
CMP (Comprehensive metabolic panel)
Lipid Profile (post cycle is fine)
LH and FSH only needed pre and post cycle/pct

If you are cruising you dont need those levels

>>42154616
Blended slin is available otc but it's practically useless for bb. You'll just get fat.

>>42154627
when your cruising you don't need any of those done?

>>42154636
Its pretty ironic. Nobody dies from roids unless its infection or mainlining oil yet slin is dangerous asf and nobody except a diagnosed diabetic has medical use for it. Goes to show that even the people regulating this have no fucking idea

>>42154602
How did they find out? That could never hurt the receiver. Also testosteron isn't listed on the banned substance list. Only hiv, hepatitis etc..

On a related note, how do you reduce rbc then?

>>42154616
Especially when it could not hurt someone.

>>42154677
you reduce rbc by bleeding

>>42154702
That's fcking retarded to do. How do you know how much you lost? And what about potential infections. Even a retard like me understand that.

>>42154749
Its easy
Stick a needle in your arm and chill in the tub

>>42154762
Same process as suicide really so this board is super familiar with the process

>>42154749
Bleed into a protein shaker cup.

>worrying about infections from taking blood
>when you stab your legs and ass deep into the muscle several times a day and inject bathtub oils into them

>>42154774
Who hasnt thought about that while draining blood.
Be easy to take a nap and wake up happy n dead

>>42154627
jesus christ where the fuck do I get these done and how often? I'm Dutch by the way

>>42154801
>dutch

Good luck fagit.

We have to go through some german labs and shit.

>>42154775
Comparing injecting steroids into the muscle with is relatively safe and playing with fkcing blood and veins. Do you want sepsis? Look it up, no joke.

>>42154762
>>42154762
And how do you know how much you lost then?

>>42154816
well fuck, what do you recommend? Getting my test levels checked is np but otherwise idk...

>>42154841
>accidentally nick a vein on your way in
>oil leaks in

You are at more risk every time you inject.

Also you obviously drain it into a marked container.

Can't you get your doc to do it?

>>42154841
Into a measuring cup
I just do it til I get fuzzy headed tho

>>42154675
roids are only illegal because of fearmongering, "muh cheating" in sports, and the fact that every retarded ass kid would use them (and probably fuck themselves up).

but as i always say it's better this way. would u want everyone being roided up? no, we stand out more this way

>>42154887
I've used bloedwaardentest.nl for my test/e2. Was easy enough and quite fast, even with the weekend in between.
There's sites like testjegezondheid.nl that offer more complete packages too.

who here
/juicy&degenerate/
i only do stuff like this once a month but just popped half a bar pounded a four loko, then going to do a bunch of blow with sluts and then pop a valium and cialis and do disgusting things to some sorority thot

>>42154667
>LH and FSH

only needed pre and post cycle/pct
If you are cruising you dont need those levels

>>42154749
just drain into a cup, only drain 1 pint total

>>42154762
>>42154774
>>42154775
>>42154799
christ this thread got dark all of a sudden

>>42154749
no what you do is get one of those 50ml or something syringes and pull blood out of your vein (use the right size needle) or donate blood m8.
I'd also recommend someone else to do it for you so you don't pass out from seeing that much blood

on another note I'm thinking about being a tripfag. this is just a temp name. anyone have any suggestions?

>>42154964
call yourself knob goblin, after your favorite activity : ^ )

File: hpta.png (122KB, 435x288px) Image search: [Google]

122KB, 435x288px

>>42154667
>>42154920


The negative feed back loop that slows or shuts down gonadotropin releasing hormone, LH and FSH (gonadotropins produced by the pituitary) are ruled by three hormones: E2, T and DHT. Anytime any of these three go up to a level that our evolutionary genes know it's high, the slow down or shut down (depending on the levels), occurs. By the way, HCG also slows or shuts down HPGA

It means if you run gear your levels shut down, if they shut down means your testivcles don't acutally work and those levels are not needed to know about when you are on cycle/cruising

If you do full pct and run hcg with it you can get those levels checked to see your testicle health and if it comes back..

>>42154913
yeh I ordered a testosteron test from there aswell, but I cant find where to order all the other ones at a reasonable price. Can't find it on the site you linked either.

>>42154916
i personally wouldn't recommend doing hard stims like coke while on roids, but you do you m80

>>42154916
nothing wrong with it anon, i would enjoy it

>>42154978
Lipid profile should be available on bloedwaardentest, sensitive e2 isn't available in europe as far as I know, and CBC/CMP are a collection of tests you should be able to find at least the majority of.

>>42154976
no u
;)

>>42154888
>>42154888
I see no reason to do it yourself when you can just let it be done by professionals. Steroids won't hurt the receiver.

>>42154906
Last time i almost passed out when i donated. They told me to eat shitty food to not faint but I refused because I am on Keto. Then I run away while almost dropping at the exit.

>>42154964
Big black cock rider.

>>42155024
>I see no reason to do it yourself when you can just let it be done by professionals. Steroids won't hurt the receiver.

No one's saying you should do it, it's generally better to have it done by someone who is actually qualified to do it.

Your previous arguments against were just flawed.

>>42155024
Do that in a tub but with an icepack and pull the needle out/ice the back of your neck when youre at that point
Ez

>>42154909
"So anon, whats your real secret"
"Eat clean and train hard buddy "

Oh im with you i dont think steroids should be illegal but defs not otc. Just seems nuts that anyone can buy a slin pen. Pump 25ius. Forget their carbs and go into a fucking coma lol

File: IMG_1307.jpg (710KB, 2069x2262px) Image search: [Google]

710KB, 2069x2262px

NATTY KING

>>42154964
>he doesnt want to die
Gb2gaia

>>42155068
>roiding for this

>>42155038
You were asking whether the doctor could do it.

But i would never take that risk, maybe because i am not on the yolo level like you guys. I am even scared to use tren or dnp let alone drain myself.

>>42155045
Whatever it takes.

>>42154977
what if you don't run hcg, then u don't need to check these levels?

>>42154977
Why don't we have SARMs that bind to the hypothalamus' androgen receptors yet?

You could do a phat cycle using only a few pills.
Not to mention the complete prevention of shut down during real cycles/cruises.

>>42155104
didnt you read? hes fully natty and vegan on top of that too

>tfw had lung infection
>had very sharp pain in right chest and insanely bad pain in my ribs/lower right ribs
>the infection is a lot better, just had a 2nd prescription and can barely feel it until my next 24 hour dose is close
>the pin is still there on my right ribs, particularly just below it, very discomforting, but not to the point of me being helpless anymore


Could it be that the superdrol, after god knows how long finally takes it's toll on me?

It's quite the coincidence though that it happened literally as I had a lung infection.

Anyone here instead of having loading and off cycles just mantains a maintanance of extra test per week ad infinitum?

If dubs, everyone here has to inject the next dose in their palm of the hand, feet, or neck, your choice.

>>42155245
>but sarms will be the future gear

You are most likely right.
But there could still be a SARM equivalent of clomid or nolvadex.

>>42155245
sounds like u wanna get me on some experimental shit right now

>>42155291
>meanwhile bodybuilders who have been shutdown for years are getting their wives pregnant

There has to be more to it.

>>42155306
I just wanna get big and stronk and look like a god

>>42153397
>uses steroids
>still can't get a girlfriend
KYS loser

>>42155248
Dont force it too hard wannabe trip

>>42155352
what if you just run test e breh

Come on steroid fags, show us your girlfriends. You DO have girlfriends, DON'T YOU?????

File: x6dpadspa12z.png (29KB, 741x568px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 741x568px

>>42155371
You are making me reconsider some shit tho, but I cant help but want to be like some of these guys u see. David Laid, Jujimufu, all that shit

>>42155339
oh shit #rekt

File: konachan-com-104217-black_hair-blush-brown_eyes-k-on-karada_asobi-long_hair-nakano_azusa-twintails-white.jpg (383KB, 1280x870px) Image search: [Google]

383KB, 1280x870px

>>42155387

File: IMG_0027.jpg (45KB, 492x479px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 492x479px

>>42155068

>>42155666
Nice
That file name though is awfully specific

File: 1462066663890.jpg (100KB, 1080x1080px) Image search: [Google]

100KB, 1080x1080px

>>42153397
Didn't wipe the top of the vial before pushing the pin in. Went ahead and injected the test anyways.

Chances of infection? I didn't want to throw it away.

>>42155782
probably low, most people do it anyway

Also, how many of you don't aspirate at all?

>>42155813
I asp every other time pretty much. Sometimes I honestly just forget.

>>42155782
It's fine. I sometimes forget.

>>42153397
How often can I work out while on test+deca+sdrol? It's summer so I have nothing to do all day anyway, can I work out 3 hours every single day?

File: IMG_20170713_223912.jpg (203KB, 2560x1440px) Image search: [Google]

203KB, 2560x1440px

>>42154454
Jerry you should really try these sites out they're pretty awesome

>>42155906
If that's the best picture she's got. I'm sorry.

>>42155191
No, nobody does that, ever

Fuck off with your non anon ways

Is estrofem+spironolactone /fraud/?

>>42155927
Why you hating brah

You should post your biddy so we can compare

>>42155813
I do not after asking my doctor if he thought it was neccessary. His words were "if you hit big red you will know about it"
Plus its fucking hard to z-track aspirate and delt inject all in one

>>42155068
Are you still on suboxone?

I'm 31+ days clean off dope because m dgirl is in jail or rehab, I dunno she just went MIA

Tried to cold cop an literally got robbed and stabbed :(


Finally off methadone too

Taking a single tramadol a day because I'm a sad piece of shit


We used to discuss heroin things

>>42155906
What site is this
I cant even remake my goddamn tinder
Smh baka

>>42155981
Yes
Post femine penis

>>42156026
I get literally nothing on tinder but an ocean of 5s on everything else including bumble and shit. No clue why, maybe cause I don't have an Instagram linked

>>42156080
Dont you have to be a chad for bumble
If youre getting 5s youre probably atleast a 9

Damn this chinese restaurant has some qts

>>42155104
Missed you bruh

>>42155164
Been off roids like 70 days now fggt

>>42155994
Nah been totally off everything like 2 and a half months. Pretty sure I remember you. Time to get clean MFer

File: 1499893602563.jpg (258KB, 1269x1411px) Image search: [Google]

258KB, 1269x1411px

Would 6 weeks be too short to run Tren A 75mg ed at the end of a blast? I've only ran Tren E wup to 450mg ew with 450mg test so I already have experience with tren. I just want to get big and lean before I go to japan. My other option would be CjC 1295 with dac.

1000mg dnp for a week or 500mg for two weeks if I want to lose 10 lbs of fat

File: 1450293709000.gif (365KB, 320x240px) Image search: [Google]

365KB, 320x240px

>>42155782
chance is extremely minimal.

t. Ketamine junkie

wait, why am i here?

Do you guys have pictures of yourselves socializing and doing fun stuff on your profiles? It makes it easier to get matches.

Jesus, you're still here? Whatever, there's no words left for ask anonymous to say to right your life anymore.

>>42153397
Dr Stud, is that you in the pic?

>>42156379
Why not both
Lil longer would be better but ace is quick

Buy me a daki

>>42156548
I leave in 7 weeks so earliest I can start would be mid next week. I was planning on running CjC 1295 after I got back but I might as well run it now to test the water and run it again probably in November..

I thought you already had an azusa daki, I could look for an onahole if your tinder game doesnt go over well.

>>42156589
I have 6, but 3 pillows
I gotta fit on the bed too, you know.

Both at once would be better, peps are p cheap too, supershort halflife too so a short run wouldnt be too bad

Get me a slutty jc

Just noticed irc.bio stocks anamorelin. I'm starting to get my teeth into the literature but does anyone have any opinions on ana compared to ibutamoren? Looks like it has even less effect on anterior pituitary hormones while still being strongly anabolic?

>>42156632
CjC 1295 with dac has a halflife of 8 days iirc and its not usually paired up with GHRP so pinning 1x a week is normal with it. It causes minor gh bleed so its usually cycled for no more than 8 weeks. Ill try it out and see how it works. It would be nice if it helped combat the trensomnia.

I also have 520mg of Sdrol left so I might throw that in as well.

File: 1500151979651.jpg (29KB, 400x384px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 400x384px

My new order of gear for the year 2018 is just now shipping from eastern europe. Guess I gotta play the waiting game

>>42156761
Wait
Wait

You said with.
Why
Mod grf is supposed to be better, never run with dac desu

File: inafa-asdbdas98bB9.png (145KB, 251x484px) Image search: [Google]

145KB, 251x484px

>tfw no matter how much you roid you will never achieve this body

>>42154916
Too much at once couldn't enjoy any of it, especially combing benzos and alc

>>42156799
From a few anecdotal reviews, it seems that cjc wdac is best for a short term recomp and sleep gains. Basically like mk 677 or what ever it is but it works pretty much with in the first week. Also the Gh bleed from it is not permanent like actual hgh and doesnt lead to a lenny tier body after prolonged use.

Maybe I will just wait until after japan to throw in a pep. Im trying to be big enough for when Im at animelo summer live that no security guard will stop me when I try to walk back stage. Well if they do try im just going to say "Watashi Baka Gaijin Desu" and rohohoho with them and continue walking. Hopefully the will be to busy laughing and calling me an idiot for them to notice that I slipped their grasp. I just want to meet inori minase

>>42156895
Oh youre that guy
I dont think rohohohoing works on security guards lol

>get makoto im@s cd
>only disc drive is in my car
>sit in my car for an hour
That counts as cardio right? It was hot out

Is there any way to know you have real AI, clomid, or nolva?

>>42157134
Your high estrogen symptoms go away

Going into nandos with a pump and making the server girl blush.
>just blast feels

just took 1000mg dnp how fucked am I

Is anyone interested in any more years of Kahuna? Be they past, present, or future?

>>42155387
Can I show my bf instead?

>>42157342
Yeah how bad was the muscle whorship? Ive done live drawing modeling and that was fine.

>>42155985
No.

Ol I remade my tinder but I haven't looked at swipes yet.
>tfw on benefits.gov look for autism bux

>>42157433
I mean the experience is subjective, how comfortable are you with older men kissing your body?

File: 1255662244307.jpg (9KB, 400x396px) Image search: [Google]

9KB, 400x396px

>>42157342
I want the best for you, but I'm not sure you know what's best for yourself.

>>42157638
Shit all I qualify for is to RUN programs
Or get a grant to learn moonrunes
Thats still bs
Just cause I have a good income and education doesn't mean I can live in society.
Women really rigged this shit well. Have loads of sex, get kids + $$ for them from the men, plus like 17 different govt programs. Im going to redelete my tinder in protest.

At 210 lbs will I be fine running 1 gram of dnp for 6 days? Been six hours and I'm feeling nauseous and hot already

>>42157807
How do you react to lower doses of DNP?

>>42157819
I took 250mg for a week and lost 7 lbs. looking to lose around 15 with 1g dnp for a week. Should be 4x as effective so 3x the fat loss is reasonable.

>>42157819
>>42157871
On 250mg I felt some decent sweat after carbs and lethargy. I don't have a job ATM so I can just stay home with a fan on me and jump in my cold pool.

>>42157884
Conventional wisdom is that you want to be cautious with jumping up in dosage with DNP rather than fucking quadrupling it.
I would drink a lot of ice water throughout the day and spend a lot of time in the pool while cutting back my daily dosage to 500mg just to see how I react.

Found this gem of pdf's filled with AAS books and other shit.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3t1dojhwbcxwjjk/AAAT2zZIXu119gXv17V_axF2a?dl=0

>>42157807
enjoy the binge eating sessions of 10k+ calories

>>42157892
Alright I'll run 500ng for the rest of the week then. I feel like I'm gonna puke for the last 2 hours completely immobilized with a fan on me. My gf said she's gonna take me to the hospital if I don't get better so I gotta cut the dose anyway.

I can lose 10 lbs easily with a 500 cal deficit with 1000mg frontload and 500 mg for 6 more days yeah?

>>42157969
Most likely yeah
Just make sure that you drink a lot of water and get enough electrolytes.
You shouldn't die but what you did was pretty retarded imo, DNP isn't really a compound which I would feel comfortable with frontloading or really running at all.
It works, but so does a PSMF and so does eating a bit less and doing some more cardio.
I just don't think that the side effects are really worth it, unless you have a really pressing concern.

Mast I'm doing your hair growth routine thing. If it doesn't work in 2 months and I got memed on, I will rape you in your sleep.

>>42157677
I think i could deal with just about anything short of intercourse as long as a knew beforehand. What would shoukd you expect to earn?

>>42158025
mast is a fucking retard psycho incase newfags didnt know so his "hairgrowth" bullshit is a way for him to be in denial about his balding

aka you "got memed on"

>>42157918
>>42157918
Thanks man! As natty who frequently lurks here while I do my research and laugh at you guys occasionally I really appreciate this.

>>42158103
no one gives a shit autist

So I started lifting two weeks ago using the all-pro beginner routine. On Friday I was prescribed TRT- 50mg of 1% test androgel.

I know this is a relatively weak steroid- should I changed my routine at all?

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=169172473

Here is the routine- it's a simple full body three times a week.

>>42158111
Let him be anon.

>>42158116
Don't change your routine. Tell your doc your still experiencing low test sides and hopefully he'll set you up with some injectables.

>>42158148
He's testing my blood after 30 days.

File: IMG_1162.jpg (50KB, 600x579px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 600x579px

>popped some painkillers from a surgery I had a few months ago and browsing /fit/

>>42158116
>50mg
a week?

>>42158187
A day. Sorry it was 5g a day.

I rub it in my stomach and shoulders every morning after I dry off from my shower.

>>42158197
trt is giving you replacement doses of testosterone... AKA what you are supposed to be naturally (although doctors these days keep it more towards the average than the high side... the "average" which includes old men and the morbidly obese).

so no that does not mean you can/should work out like a roider

>>42158253
Damn. Ok, maybe ill try to reach my natty limit with this low level trt for a year or two before doing roofs?

How long would you say it takes to reach natty limit on average? 4 years?

>>42158197
WAT your doc prescribed 350mg test ew? Is transdermal bioavailability really low or something?

>>42158323
It's 1% gel.

>>42158337
5g = 5,000mg
5,000 x .01 = 50
50 x 7 = 350
50mg ed = 350mg ew
Am I fucking this up?

>>42158409
No I fucked it up by not making the metric system conversions. You've got it it.

>>42158409
its gel its not like anywhere close to all of it is going to be absorbed

I have 8 caps of 125mg dnp left and am already running 250, running 125 for 8 days instead of 4 days at 250 should be no difference strictly regarding the fat lost from dnp right?

guys please never take 1 gram of dnp I don't hunk I'm actually gonna die

will post tomorrow if I make it if not assume I died. Currently sitting in an ice bath because I can't breathe from being so hot

>>42158503
I think I'm actually gonna die **

>>42158508
Rest In Shreds anon

Why does anyone take DNP ever I don't get it...

>>42158551
Works great if your not a retard. Make a months progress in a week (a moserable week ill admit) and completely reset your insulin sensitivity.

>>42157134
Take the AI off cycle and see if your dick stops working.

>>42158503
you only took 1 gram out of the blue or what? i have frontloaded with way more than that

Been lifting for 2+ years now and sitting around 15-20% bf, mainly around stomach. I want to run my first cycle with the intention of leaning out.Where should I start? Anavar + Test?

>>42158581
maybe if your month is fatty's-first-cut 500 deficit

>>42159107
you should eat rat poison and die for being a fat piece of shit with no brain to read for 5 seconds and no self control

>>42159111
>everyone should be a dried out twink like me aint nobody going to get big in my thread

>>42159111
i'm smoking cigarettes right now, is that good enough? Not even fat brah just born with skinnyfat frame.

>>42159111
>>42159122
Should mention that my bf% is also an estimate, I have no real idea

>>42159129
that makes this even funnier

that your "estimate" of 15 to 20% means you're closer to 30 than you are even 15, have fun when you eventually realize this

>>42159120
fat as shit =/= muscle?

>>42159152
Up to a certain point higher bf% makes you look more swol desu.

>>42159111
>maybe if your month is fatty's-first-cut 500 deficit

Chill out dude nobodies forcing you to use it. I completely understand avoiding it as best case scenario you uncomfortably hot and worst case dead but denying its effectivness pretty retarded

Dear steroid users/abusers please help me decide how i should go about my first blast. Should i bulk hard during my first blast and not risk "undergaining", recomp while cruising and cut during second blast or try to, god forbid, lean bulk?

>>42155267
wtf are you talking about nolva is a SERM

>>42159270
would not recommend lean bulking on first cycle, because you'll want to be using more compounds than you should the first time

>>42159307
>a
>e

>>42159322
Im not sure if i understand what you mean. Im already pinning 500mg of test e per week and i won't be adding anything else.

>>42159219
i said that as in 1 week is = to 1 month of "normal" cutting if your "normal" cut is being a fat fuck eating at only a 500 deficit

11% boost in tdee per 100mg doesn't make 1 month = 1 week unless you cut like a retard who wants to waste time on purpose

>>42159442
>that retard who believes the 11% meme

>>42159568
>that retard who believes research papers from when dnp was widely prescribed for weight loss

>>42158503
Update: been soaking in an ice bath for hours because i vomit up any liquids other wise. Feeling much bettemore but as soon as I stand up I get hot and have to projectile vomit again.

>>42159859
Jesus dude. Id be seriously thinking about going to the hospital. You fucked up and deserve punishment but dont die.

Otherwise how the shreds coming in?

>Keep lifting like normal
>Keep the same diet
>Start doing cardio 20 minutes 6 times a week
>Lose 5KG in a month

Just out of curiosity, how much would I be able to lose if I started using roids?

>>42159859
Ah its this familiar tale again.

So you've took in no water, you're going to die of dehydration

>>42160091
>Id be seriously thinking about going to the hospital.
>anon gets out of the ice bath for a few seconds to call an ambulance
>they later find a pile of ash next to the phone

>>42156943
Maybe not American security but this is japland we are talking about. Plus I'm 6ft 215lbs at roughly 14%bf. I might make a fake security shirt and see if that works.

Sounds a bit better than my cardio. I unironically learn idol and anime dances for when I go to cons and what not. For what ever reason small cute Asian girls love big dudes in crossplay dancing

>>42160169
Why would you use steroids for losing weight? Use EC/Clen/T3/DNP and a cruice dose of test if you really want to use something, then gain some muscle with steroids CMON

12 hours and no matches yet
I got better results with my daki account

>>42160222
>I unironically learn idol and anime dances
Fuckin weebs
I tried once but couldnt figure it out lol

And that means their security is probably yakuza

>>42158025
3 months you will notice thickness

with keto shampoo you will see hair loss 100% stop after some weeks.


>>42160732
What kind of pictures do you use?

I never dated via dating apps. Fucking pictures are deceiving

>>42160812
Like a selfie, with dogs in park, with friends, at party

Theyre just scared. They can see that I have left humanity behind

>>42155965
Omar Isuf says that fake natties on youtube do that

>>42153486
No, gear decrease muscle protein break down and increase muscle protein synthesis. You'll preserve more muscle tissue on a cut with gear.

does gear make you go full 1488

File: 6133_full_(1).gif.jpg (25KB, 251x251px) Image search: [Google]

25KB, 251x251px

First time pinning into delt toay
I'm a quad man myself and have never had an issue
Injected few minutes ago
Followed same protocol
I did aspirate
No blood in syringe
Take a few seconds-minute to inject
Pulled out needle blood started squirting everywhere
Feeling ok right now
Applying pressure to the injection site

>>42160939
Are you talking of abusing trt?

>>42161106
>I did aspirate
why even aspirate when it's possible to move syringe tiny bit and you will pin into vein?

>>42154749
i used leeches i bought online

File: happy-birthday-hedgehog.jpg (38KB, 563x422px) Image search: [Google]

38KB, 563x422px

Today is the hedgehogs birthday, what present are you getting it?

>>42161134
He says that there are a lot of fake natties that instead of cycling juice with more and then less, they just do a small dose all around.

I don't know how it is with roids, but it's like if you were taking creatine, and instead of a month doing a week on 20gr, then 2 weeks on 2gr/day, and a week off, you'd just do 4 weeks on 2gr/day.

>>42161258
anadrol

>>42161275
Not sure a hedgehog can handle that

>>42161258
M-tren

>>42161309
It's gotta get hedgehuge

>>42161434
It's his birthday don't body shame

>>42160732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEULybZnLO8
>Learn this dance and record it
>Link the recording in your description
>Wait a few days
>Increase your calorie intake by 1k ed due to the amount of pussy you will be swimming in.

>>42160732
>>42162052
Actually learn off this one instead, you might enjoy it better
http://www.bilibili.com/video/av8769446/

how hard is it to inject roids?

I've never given myself a shot before. Is the shot in the butt a meme or is that really the best way to do it?

>>42162325
It's easy as fuck. There's plenty of guides online, look it up.

>>42162325
>how hard is it to inject roids?
It's pretty easy
>I've never given myself a shot before. Is the shot in the butt a meme or is that really the best way to do it?
I do glutes and quads, try it and see what you prefer
Pd: read the wiki

>>42162325
Its very hard, when you take the needle out a gang of midgets appear and the relentlessly taunt you, wielding magic they cause the needle to go limp until you solve a series of cake based riddles.

That is just stage one.

Unfortunately some succumb to the madness, Jerry.

Without getting into specifics, what can you do to lower cholesterol numbers? Is it mostly diet, exercise and some supplementation or can you also add in some pharma grade cholesterol drugs?

Say I'm running niacin, red yeast, and c0q10, fiber etc...

>>42162414
Cut out saturated fats (and trans fats) that is the most significant factor in diet for cholesterol.

Red yeast rice extract contains statins which is why it works, some brands spike it with additional statins, careful with that.

Cardio. BP and cholesterol are usually linked too, monitor BP and avoid roids that spike your BP (dbol massively spikes mine among shit loads of estro issues for me, adrol on the other hand doesnt touch my bp).

Telmisartan is another thing that lowers cholesterol

Where's a good place to buy ITPP

>>42160091
I don't have health insurance.it should be worn off by this night.

>>42160201
Been chewing on ice chips and actually held down some juice. Pissed twice this morning.

>>42162548
plug in your dosage of DNP into steroid calc
You're in for a wild ride boyo, but you PROBABLY won't die
Also you should have fucking done this to begin with you retard

>>42162541
Ive seen it on uniquemicals (they dont sell anything illegal or any phs/roids), and some other places - but they tend to sell stuff that comes under source talk.

If you google itpp and reddit you may come up with other places that sell it too.

>DNP
>Not just roiding while cutting or psmf.

>>42162618
I only took one dose of 1000mg before I started vomiting all over with a "fever" Aka body burning from the inside.

>>42162655
I can understand why losing a fucking pound to a pound and a half a day of bodyfat while on a PSMF is attractive.
What I can't understand is why anyone would sell DNP because you run a pretty decent risk of some retard killing themselves with it, which will likely result in your ass being dragged to court and going to jail for a long time.
Maybe DNP has a massive profit margin, but I doubt that you'll make more off of DNP then you would off of just selling orals. Seriously the mark up on orals is insane. Less than 2 dollars worth of dbol raws pressed into pills sold for 30 bucks online (I assume that if you're selling in a gym for whatever reason you can make even more money off of retards).
>>42162698
yeah but DNP stays in your system at decent blood levels for a good 5 days.

>>42162729
Everyone thats used it says it turns your quality of life to shit, but need to run it for 10 days because it doesnt work right away/needs time to build up, and then another 10 days or so recovery time to feel normal again

Or you could just psmf for those 3 weeks on Tren A/E, sdrol, etc.

>>42162729
I thought it had 36 hour half life

>>42162761
36 hours yeah, but even after 36 hours then you've still got an active dose in you.
>>42162754
A 3 week long PSMF is pretty fucking brutal man, I really wouldn't do a PSMF while running a really carb hungry compound because I am mentally weak and would much rather just run a reasonable (750-1000 Cal) deficit for a couple more weeks while I'm cruising. Worst case scenario I have to cut for another month, which isn't the end of the world.

>>42160812
>thickness
I love it

do minoxidil shampoos work?

what's the noob cycle boyz some test-e and some gyno blocker then pct at the end like novla?

Anyone here ever tried high intensity training, like Dorian Yates and some other bodybuilders used to? I'm having trouble finding reading about it that isn't bullshit fitness articles or just random youtube videos where some guy is like "yeah he did that".

>>42163161
100mg dbol ed for 8 weeks is the recommended beginner cycle. don't need to buy AI or even to PCT after

Still no matches
This is the worst Ive ever done
I gotta be ugly or have some obvious issue im just not aware of

>>42162052
>>42162071
Im not learnin nothin thats not from idolm@s

File: 1498762361761.jpg (24KB, 427x549px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 427x549px

>>42153397
ITT: a bunch of tiny penis manlets either brag about shoving needles with chemicals up their ass or role play about it.

>tfw 6'5", 245 pounds, low body fat and strong as FUCK
>tfw EXCELLENT cardiovascular health
>tfw hulking, goliath dick
>tfw no steroids like a little bitch with a little bitch chip on his little bitch shoulders

fantastic feels that you insecure, sexually emasculated hobbit shits will NEVER experience.

>>42163214
(u)

>>42163161
5g tren and 5g estradiol ED, no AI or caber needed.

The compounds will automatically initiate PCT when you stop.

They are also safe to run for 30 weeks +

>>42154402
Sup?

>>42163214
But you wouldnt bother posting a pic with timestamp right?
Because you are a superior human bean and you dont need to prove yourself to us degenerates right?

(u)

>>42163376
What's the story?

>Medical backstory!

What was your condition you mentioned you have high BP and gyno at a younger age? Care to go in detail about this or is it private....??

You're using AI everyday how many pills do you end up taking and what is your current test cycle like since you added the dbol?

File: laughing vegeta.png (123KB, 311x394px) Image search: [Google]

123KB, 311x394px

>>42163230
>>42163416
as usual, the most insecure, tiny penis bitch boys are ALWAYS the quickest to run damage control. enjoy your impotent rage, squirts.

i saved Clerisy's /fit/ sticky dump from years ago. Has a big section on gear. If any of would like to see it i can upload it to a text dump site.

>pinned right glute on wednesday
>still can feel little bit of pip
>next shot will be on tuesday

now i don't know if i should pin that spot because im scared it might cause more pain

>>42163631
>laughing vegeta.png
Explain yourself mister

>>42163493
When I hit puberty I started to get breasts. The tissue is hard, fibrous, with little bubbles.

History wise, my family has a high rate of breast cancer on male and female sides.

I have scheuermann's kyphosis, which causes a compression of the thoracic spine length wise, pushing it out more barrel shaped. That causes high pressure around the heart/lungs.

The only thing that will fix it is surgery. No brace can fix a structural issue. My vertebrae are shaped like trapezoids, so its not a posture or ligament/tendon problem. I'd need about 3/4 of my vertebrae fused. Thats about a week in the hospital and a year off of work.

I've used AAS a combined three years. Started after I turned 30. Took a year break and started again late last year.

>pills a day

1 25mg dbol, 1 12.5 asin a day.

500mg test a week.

Just a pretty standard starters after cruising for 4 months.

>future

dr app soon to test the tissue in my tits. Removal is going to happen regardless, I just need to get an ultrasound/mamogram/etc and plan ahead if there maybe cancer.

>dbol
I can't deal with these dbol sides. I'm ditching it and going to up my test for a few weeks. Then look at planning out a tren/test/mast/var blast.

>>42163657
>Started after I turned 30

Thanks, I was actually wondering how old you were as well to starting your gear journey

also, sounds like you have done your research and you understand what you are doing.. right on..

>>42163641
you're not supposed to pin the same spot twice in a row, dude

left glute time

What forums you guys visit, I know body building.com doesn't address steroid use.

>>42163686
Trying.

Very understanding of what I am doing to my body and what may happen from using. My doctor disagrees with it, but supports my decision to make myself better.

>>42163693
I didn't said it because i thought it's obvious that i've pinned other glute in the meantime. I pin e3d. Now im a bit worried. I don't want to pin my quads.

>>42163709
They should, they put dbol in their protein powder lmao

File: 1387129468802.png (314KB, 469x474px) Image search: [Google]

314KB, 469x474px

>>42163631
>laughing vegeta

>>42157547
Cause you know she's worse

Crab mentality man trying to bring others down. Sad.

I've been running 500mg test E for 8 weeks now.

Goddammit this stuff is so cool. I've put on 20 lbs of (as far as I can tell) clean muscle and I haven't had to become a gym rat. I go maybe 5 times a week for 45 mins-hour.

Thank u sterons for allowing me to get big while working two jobs

>>42163112
ANSWER ME!!!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE TREN IS RAPING MY HAIR

>>42153795
what the fuck are you talking about mate?

>>42163709
expected more answers

left disappointed

>>42164259
blacked dot com

File: 1491002530038.png (541KB, 715x718px) Image search: [Google]

541KB, 715x718px

>>42164259
Theres so fucking many. Af, sg, gb, gh, leddit hehehe, that fuckin gh replacement bs

Like did you try google

Bump >>42153795

>>42163995
>8weeks
>20lbs
>lean muscle

pick only two

File: 1500235537883.png (233KB, 568x590px) Image search: [Google]

233KB, 568x590px

>>42164316
>Like did you try google

Yea, I'm on a few of my own

I just wanted to get to know /fraud/ a little better..

Ran 2 weeks of dnp, got pretty good results for 5 days after that. Went drinking one night, kinda binged and had a pizza the following morning.

Looks like I gained everything back, even though most of the weight is still off. Is it water? If I run potassium to cut water, how long will I stay looking good?

>>42164176
I heard it's good for preventative, from my sub 100 IQ redneck hair stylist

>>42161258
Cheekie how do you even know wen it was born

>People wanting to unironically look blatantly roided
Its basically body mulation,
Just keep it at the level of nice aesthetics jesus

bros my new gf is obsessed with ball play while im fucking her and gets hot for champion loads she likes playing with what do I do im already on hcg zinc and lecithin

>>42161258
qt

>>42164176
kek
use nizoral shampoo m80

>>42163945
Or I just don't want my girlfriend harrassed by internet autists.

>>42164763
Normies can't tell roided from not roided. Only other bodybuilders can.

>>42164965
Fuck meant for >>42164763

>>42164955
Is this the one that broke up with you or the redhead that used you as an emotional tampon?

>>42164983
The former.

>>42164955
>>42164965
>>42164978
>tfw you can't tell if you were always stupid or if it was the gear

>>42164978
Wtf man

>>42164763
yeah here's one. L-arginine

i remember back a few years ago there was guide floating around about a stack for large loads

>>42164994
Did someone crack crusader's trip? What is it?

>>42163165

Adding to this, what about DoggCrap? Similar idea.

File: 1495839416263.png (207KB, 403x433px) Image search: [Google]

207KB, 403x433px

Have you ever accidentally called your spotter daddy?

I ate a meal and didn't vomit, slept for 15 minutes with two fans blowing on me after jumping in the pool with clothes on

>>42165519
just wondering what made you think starting at 1g for your first try at dnp was a good idea

>>42165532
I did 250 mg for a week and was fine. Soon was gonna run 500mg but ate a big meal so took another 500mg before bed. Been vomiting and feverish since. Luckily I have gf to bring me water and ice or I might be dead

>>42165485
aw poor anon

is it even worth sitting in a sauna to shed some water? going on vacation on wednesday, want to look my juciest

>>42165580
ask zyzz

>>42165580
Super dose vit c with milk thistle

>>42165485
Did he ask to see your boipussy?
Can I?

what's the masT hair routine?

>>42165722
keto shampoo
biotin

>>42165047
yea i found the reddit thread from that pornstar saying how they get into peter north mode. Just trying everything because blowing in this chick with my little dribble loads is just not gonna work.

>>42165962
pumpkin seed as well iirc

>>42165580
Not to lose a bit of water to look slightly better on vacation.
Sauna's a pretty good option if you're cutting water weight for a show or a weigh in, but I don't think that that many people in /fraud/ actually compete in anything.

>>42166039
I don't even lift but take steroids for those gains

I probably get more gains than a natty cuck who works out

Joints start hurting today

>How long until my AI gets here senpai
>Hoping it doesn't get seized

>>42166116
Joints are low e2 though dumb retard faggot

>>42166099
that's nice but sweating out a lot of water in the sauna's not gonna do that much unless you really control your water intake throughout your vacation

After doing hours of fucking research yesterday I ordered TB and BCP for the first time for an injury. Why the fuck is this stuff illegal and so hard to get my hands on when it's just for healing purposes? And am I still natty?

>>42166385
>Why is it illegal?
I, for one blame the jews. Or just the regulations which we have on medicine to keep retards from killing themselves.
>Am I still natty?
Who cares unless you're competing in something that's drug tested?

>>42165075
No I'm just retarded

>>42165643
No and no. My bp is a precious secret reserved for that special someone

>>42166118

500test e. asin at 37.5mg eod got e2 at 48ng/dl. bumped it up to 50mg and joints are definitely aching a more and yet acne has not gone down and bloat's still bad to the point of tingling in fingertips. Waiting on yet another test to see where I stand.

Was I wrong in that bloat and acne are tied to high e2?

Currently on an upper/lower split that seems to be working fine. Can I do pull-ups 4 times a week without massively fucking up my recovery?
Currently do pull-ups on Tuesdays and chin-ups on Fridays (3x10)
On 500mg test e a week, plus 50g proviron e.d

>>42166612
Post your throbbing boipussy for me

>>42166707
Depends on your programming, doesnt it?
Since you dont seem to know much about training im going to say itll be fine to add them in, I doubt your programming is that tight
Can always adjust rel. Intesity/frequency of other parts too, I think getting your schedule down right as you like it is important

So I think my gyno is flaring up again cause nips are a bit tingly/burning. Going to see a doc about low test and see if I can get on trt, what can I do to stop the bitch tits right now though cause they're just getting worse and worse. Can you undo the damage or is surgery my option now

>>42166707
Almost certainly provided that you're also eating enough to gain weight.
What are you trying to achieve from your training/roid usage?

>>42164420
haha ur right honestly
I don't look fat though, thankfully

>>42166775
raloxifene will do the trick and has far less sides than nolvadex, much safer to use

if you are in canada your doctor wont do shit for you btw, you are on your own.

Yo fraudsters.

Am I allowed to wear wifebeaters around in public? I'm in Texas and it's hot as balls, plus I like the way they look. Is it too douchey? I'm going to wear them anyway i just wanna know if i look like a cunt

>>42153397
can someone start new thread so I can ask question

>>42166814
If you're gonna look like a cunt, you'll look like a cunt no matter what. So fuck it, might as well.
Hook 'em.

>>42166824
Just ask it here fuckwad, there's like 40 posts left in this one

>>42166807
I'm in America. Where can I read more about dosages for that for this purpose, how safe are we talking? Leaning more toward DNP could kill me or nah?

someone redpill me on yohimbe

>>42166912
>https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/the_estrogen_handbook
>ctrl F "ralox"
There you go bub. Normally I'd yell at you to read the OP but the tard who made this thread didn't include the reddit wiki in it.

File: IMG_0578.jpg (29KB, 482x482px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 482x482px

>>42166979
Thanks mane

>>42166960
Yohimbe is garbage. Yohimbine hcl is what you want to get. It's also not /fraud/ so why the fuck are you asking here?

>>42166775
>>42166807
>>42166979
Ralox won't do shit if you don't fix the problem that's causing the extra e2. It's commonly taken with nolva because nolva lowers e2 levels. However, if you just have tingly nips cus you can't control your estro from mis-dosing AI, then ralox is going to literally do nothing.

>>42167356
I am natty. But bloodwork has shown my test is at the low end of normal and sometimes higher e2 or prolactin. Women endos told me it was nothing to worry about but I am seriously depressed over my chest and the more I read about low T/high estro I feel like I've suffered from this for awhile. I've found a male doc that does male hormone therapy and am setting up an appointment asap. I just want to know what I can do in the meantime and if it's possible to undo years of probably messed up levels. Recently it's getting worse I think.

>>42167407
I wouldn't try to fix a anything until after your appointment. Usually test/estro levels will correlate with one another, so if one lowers the other lowers. When you're not natty, it's different. You can artificially keep your test high and chemically keep your estro low.
If you get prescribed test, you can take stuff to keep your e2 or prolactin down, which would be better for you. Then you can take ralox on top to reverse the gyno. Ice had pubertal gyno for the last 12 years and I'm finally reversing it now.

Im starting my 2nd cycle with test e and dbol. Is 25mg of dbol a day enough? Or should I do 50mg?

>>42167477
Dbol is garbage. Great for bloating and man titties tho!

>>42167489
Should I jump right to tren or deca instead?

>>42167468
I think mine started near the end of puberty but I didn't know anything about this stuff so just thought I was putting muscle on. Then spent a few years binge drinking and doing drugs a lot and now trying to get it together and realize I've got bad gyno. So you actually are making it go away with ralox? I'm not gonna take anything til I see the doc. I'm just wary of docs now after the last two told me I was fine when clearly I'm not.

>>42166691
>500test e. asin at 37.5mg eod got e2 at 48ng/dl
that much asin on that much test. yesus!

low e = hurty joints
high e = nice skin and bloat

>>42163112
>>42164176
Never tried it since I dont experience hair loss, but I think sarms (except s23.. so at least osta and lgd4033) can protect the scalp (like they can do with the prostate) kind of like a serm does to breast tissue.

There was a guy on hair loss forums who controlled loss with finasteride on gear, he threw in a sarm and started getting regrowth in lost areas - which shedded once he stopped the sarm.

>>42167477
>>42167514
>>42167489

Dbol side effects suck.

Personal experience - sky rocketed blood pressure, head aches, estro and nipple issues, couldnt sleep. Aromasin ED only helped the nipple issues.

Anadrol is where its at - no bp, estro or nipple issues, no head aches, no problem sleeping.

>>42167637
>Anadrol is where its at
absolutely second this. I hate dbol plus cleaner/bigger gains on drol

What is this meme hair loss routine how many mg's of each thing? I'm 7 days into drol and up 5 pounds but my hair is hurting.

>>42167898
Also my decided to keep test at 150 per week along with the drol.

>>42167898
drol fucks up your hair? wut

>>42168035
Yea I'm losing a ton, and I'm not going to use propecia already went down that road.

>>42168160
inb4 >Im also on 800mg tren and 600mg mast