Making your own supplements

Nope, because I'm not retarded.
Preworkouts and meal timing is marginal at best and pseudoscientific at worst.

>>42142265
Drink a black coffee you fag

if you have the money try Citrulline Malate and Pure Betaine Anhydrous Trimethylglycine (TMG) Powder there are scientific studies where give some benefit, though pretty marginal.

i'm sure having a 'pre workout stack' boost also gives you some kind of placebo effect as well and a different mental state going in.

>>42142282
Not true. I've experimented with 7 different preworkouts and I find that each has a unique effect. My favorite thus far is KAGED, by Kris Gethin. The large amount of caffeine gives me a ridiculous amount of energy during my workout and something else in there makes me VERY focused and concentrated. I'd love to know what part of it adds the concentration effect.
>>42142336
I'll look into it, thanks

>>42142265
Please remove that picture it is racist to me

>>42142265

Just kill all muslims.

>>42142527
Congrats, the placebo works on you. Doesn't mean they have a tangible benefit tho.

I make my own using 2g taurine 2g l-citruline 300mg caffeine and 150mg dmaa.

Bought the supplies for like $160 last august.

>>42142265
Non CNS stims are essential - pair them with an effective CNS stim like Caffeine.

No jitters, great pump, great concentration.

Current Stack
>Oxilofrine
>AMP Citrate
>PEA
>Beta Alanine
Mixed into cheap BCAAs.

Paid about $200 for several years worth.
Only ongoing cost is the BCAA and experimentation with different stims.