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First for obvious answer

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Hitlers Revolution is pretty good, goes into detail in what led to the National Socialist party, and the philosophy of National Socialism.

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It's a meme, don't take it 100% seriously, but this is a decent read and will give some good insights.

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Does this count?

>>42134489
I'm interested in the following topics:

- Ancient Greece
- Ancient Rome
- Roman Catholicism


what books are there about them that I should be picking up?

>>42134666
Gates of fire is on the commandants reading list

>>42134681
Gates of Fire - Pressfield
Revenge of Geography - Kaplan
The Landmark Thucydides - Strassler

Get your brain swole at the mind gym

Been reading Churchill's history of the United States lately. Like all of his history, he dramatizes events to the point of stretching historical truth, but it's a fun read.

>getting knowledge gains when you can be getting imagination gains

start with The Neverending Story

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>>42134489

Currently halfway through The Road on /fitlit/'s recommendation. Learning it was published in 2006 makes me wonder "is this a doomsday prepper fanfic?" but the book is just so good.

It's got a Hemingway kind of feel, but he never wrote the "constantly surrounded by enemies" theme like McCarthy does afaik. It's always war (boring, then briefly terrifying) or some veteran whose girl is a literary gains goblin or about to die.

A+ book, would read again. Initially interested via dystopias, but post-apocalyptic is really another genre

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I have pretty much every book ever listed in these threads, /pol/ and some /lit/ ones in my amazon wish list, but yeah

gonna drop the few images i have on this computer

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>>42134813

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If you like history or Lewis & Clark, I recommend this, great read

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>>42134818
>Harry potter

>>42134818
>Fernando Pessoa

Oh boy, did I love having to study his work

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>>42134854
complain with /lit/ bro

>>42134681

>>42134489
Books are an outdated mode of media consumption/and inefficient for education.

You can receive information much faster through video and the internet.

>>42134818
The Bible???

Even if you're religious it's like a book you just pick up and read for leisure.

>>42134501
basic af my dude

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>>42134867
>islamic thinkers
>no ibn khaldun

>>42134878
Farewell to mein seids

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>>42134818
>odyssey above iliad
>karamazov above crime&punishment
>DADoES, Faust and paradise lost are less important than harrry potter
>Kafka only gets 1 book on the list

is this some quentin list?

>el big bang gatsby

oh..

>>42134818
Some other good books that aren't on the list, but the authors are:

Dostoevsky: Poor People (written in letter format) and The Idiot (awkward epileptic coming back to Russia)

Nabokov's short stories (nostalgic modern realism, not pedo)

Orwell: A Clergyman's Daughter (girl who loses her faith), Keep the Aspidistra Flying (man who wages war on money)

>>42134501
Is stoicism a meme? I read the first few pges and I dig it. Also, any other classical writings you guys would recommend?

>>42134818

>infinite jest and gravity's rainbow in the top ten

is this how /lit/ e-stats?

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Blood Meridian, not trying to get /lit/-points just an amazing cowboy novel that goes against the memes of the genre. Entertaining as fuck.

>>42134501
>>42134890
That seems like a good progression into stoic literature. Backwards in time.

Marcus --> Seneca and Epictetus --> Chrysippus and the fragments of Zeno and Cleanthes

>>42134860
You should relabel that "info"graphic to Germanistik and delete everything but Tolkein, Beowulf, and Parzifal.

Then add the Prose Edda, the Old English Judith, the Exeter Book, the Nibelungenlied and Gudrunlied, Gottfried von Strassburg's Tristan, Hartmann von Aue's Erec and Der arme Heinrich, and Walther von der Vogelweide's Minnesaenger

That will set you on the correct path

>>42135059
forgot to add Franz Xavier von Schoenworth's fairy tales. Inspiration for the Brothers Grimm

>>42134605
haha i used to troll that guys wordpress comment board for days, one of the easiest trolled people of all time.

http://sonic.net/~rteeter/grtbloom.html

all you need. stop with the lists and the pics and the recs and read.

>>42134813

lol i think it's past your bedtime kid

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"The Way Of Men" and "Becoming Barbarians"
Both of them are short books and you can find them online. Autor is Jack Donovan (pic related)

>>42134881
Reading promotes better retention. If you aren't an idiot or saddled with a learning disability, reading is a much more effective way to learn than any audiovisual media.

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>fiction
>self-help
Holy shit how fucking stupid is /fit/?

>>42134681
>Roman Catholicism
Summa Theologica

Orthodox Christianity is where it's at though

>>42134572
https://ia801305.us.archive.org/13/items/HitlersRevolutionByRichardTedor_383/HitlersRevolutionByRichardTedor.pdf

>>42136112
Too bad he loves boypussy.

Brave new world by aldous huxley. Like holy shit it is accurate as fuck when it came to predicting what part of the future would be like. This guy practically predicted raves and rolling.

>>42136549
That's a bad thing how?

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Spot the odd one out

Pretty much most of Tolstoys novels, The Kreutzer Sonata is something to read for /fit/izens. In War & Piece I believe a lot of /fit/izens can relate to Pierre Bezukhov and in Anna Karenina Levin is the guy to root for. He hates the city, lives on the land, praises manual labour, had girl problems, exercises (bodyweight I assume), thinks of an hero-ing (this part must seem quite weird, but it's pretty much Tolstoys own story as you can read in 'My Confessions')

Tolstoy is someone all of /fit/ can look up to.


Crime and Punishment - Dostoyevski
The consolation of Philosophy - Boëthius
Letters - Epicurus (tetrapharmakos)
Ape & Essence - Huxley (Brave New world too obviously)
Fathers and Sons - Toergeniev

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>tfw you start books, stop at a random point and take ages starting up again

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>>42134501
Remember to breathe

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>>42134981
>>>42134501
>Is stoicism a meme?
No, not at all. It teaches to stay calm and take the world as it is. Once you go stoic, you will see the world and people in a new light.

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>>42134813
My nigga

>>42134681

the bible

>>42134867
>Luther's "On the Jews and their lies" nowhere to be found on that list

>>42134813
this and The Fountainhead

>>42135026
If you like that, all the pretty horses may interest you. Also by McCarthy and also about cowboys.

>>42134981
No dude, why do you think it survived all this time, stoicism is really comfy.

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>>42134813
>open this thread to post this for easy (You)s
>already posted

http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading/Literature_by_type

>>42134813
The fountain head no doubt changed my life

went from a self pitying baby to believing in free will

>>42134981
Epictetus

>>42138312
>top tier taste
>stops mid book
>begun other books

are you me?

Its about time for the resurrection

lets set the pace

1 book x week

names for goodreads group

>>42134890
And? Op wanted essential literature, meaning the basics too you fucking idiot pseud.

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i get physically bored reading.

books literally put me to sleep.

how 2 fix

>>42140705
quit being a brainlet

>>42134813
A terribly written book by some overrated pseudo - philosopher and praised by high school kids that found objectivism and like it because they think it makes them look smart when in fact it tells everyone they have no idea what they're talking about.

Like libertarianism? Not a problem, just don't base your views on her works. Not only are they simplistic (and long winded), they're written by a hypocritical welfare queen.

>>42140831
thanks great shit advice.

I really do want to read some more, but I stopped doing it around high school and rarely read anymore. Average time it takes me to finish a book is literally 1-1.5 years if i do finish it because it feels like a chore to me.

I have no issue watching long dry boring films, listening to podcasts, or even long articles. But books just start the sleep countdown for me.

>>42134572
trying to grow your brain by getting into national socialism seems kinda counter-productive.

>>42140705
Get your eyes checked first to make sure eye strain isn't causing you to sleep. Next thing is to correct your reading habits. I always sit up when I read, never read laying down in a bed. Make sure you have plenty of light. Start reading when you're still awake I can start reading at 8 and read until 11 but if I start at 11 I won't make it that long. Make sure you're not hungry too, low blood sugar can make you not pay attention and feel lost. Take breaks when you're first starting ojt, read 10 or 20 pages then get up and stretch or something for a few minutes. Read something that interest you.

If all those fail you might just be a retard and literally too stupid to comprehend what you read.

>>42140935
bah, time is a problem currently. I work 9 hour days not including commuting to the gym and traffic (I live in LA). My schedule goes:

Leave house at 6:50 AM return at 7:00 PM. repeat for a week.

>>42140863
Read 1 pages a day. It'll be a habit soon enough and you'll probably find reading books less boring.

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These books are good for learning things, especially DYI and fitness stuff.

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>>42138312
How come your copy of the meditations is so thicc?

>>42140847
Pretty sure I couldn't give a fuck about her philosophical beliefs. I just found personal value in some of her quotes, so sue me.

>>42141031
Since those are public domain, typically publishing companies jam a bunch of other shit by the author in there which are also public domain to get people to choose their product over another publisher's.

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>77 posts
>not posting the best response
>body is literally the temple and dwelling place of the king of the universe

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>>42141055
Makes sense, thanks.

>>42138312
Is the camus one worth it? I almost bought it the other day but i was unsure.

>>42141084
Certain books go without saying.

>>42134605
required reading for virgins

it will genuinely help you, but take it with a grain of salt

>>42140863
set aside the same time block every day to read. the best one is the half hour to hour before you go to bed.

if a book is boring, then don't read it. find a book that you enjoy reading. there will be books that will keep you up at night because they excite you.

once you're good enough at reading then you can start reading the "boring" books. that's when things get interesting.

so yeah keep a schedule and stop reading boring books

>>42141031
Long ass introduction and a shitload of notes with short explanations or information about almost every paragraph, and also connecting them to other paragraphs in the book to give you a "fuller" understanding about Marcus' ideas and whatnot, as the book itself is pretty scattered.
It's just bonus stuff, unless you are super interested I wouldn't buy it if you already have the book itself.

>>42141103
If you're referring to Sisyphus I haven't read it yet. If you mean The Stranger which is hidden under there, then yeah. It's short and worth a read.

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Working my way through this now.

>>42141392
Thanks. Kind of a confusing choice given that it's now more expensive for the book to be produced

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>>42134813
>objectivist garbage written for jews

>>42141452
>he isn't an objectivist
Lol

>>42141433
Yeah. I mean Penguin are pretty huge so it's probably not a loss to them. I imagine most people buying this book nowadays get this one. Supposedly the translation is better in this edition, which is why I bought it in the first place.
I skipped the introduction after a certain point because as usual it's just some guy jerking off to his own knowledge about the subject.

You dumb fucking niggers, posting self help shit gimmicks "h-how to get laid:for virgins,by virgins" and "how to not fail at life:some commie fucks"
Read up books on repairing your fucking bike/car
>inb4 I don't have one
Books on cybersecurity or at least some IT related shit. That's what we contribute to society now that our hunting and gathering days are over. Stop reading your fucking shitty "philosophy" and similar "inspirational" shit books. Do you need inspiration for gym ? Do you need inspiration to take a shit ? No. Only thing that inspires you should be yourself, not some dumb book which assumes it knows all about you and your thought process. How are you any better than youtube watching normie teenage girls ?
And please, please stop reading fucking fiction. It's good as a holiday read, but reading it religiously regularly just proves you aren't an adult yet/ And no, that is not a compliment you immature fuck. You are basically a male version of twilight/50shades of gray reading dumb teenage girls.
protip:You don't become "enlightened" by reading. Instead of reading about meditation, try doing it sometime you pseudo intellectual fuck

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>>42140933
Dubs of truth. Nazi wanna-bes should go back to /pol/ where they can justify treason all day in peace.

>>42134813
Stupid book for stupid people

There should be a list with all these books

Some books I like and may appeal to people here (most are "basic", I don't give a fuck, they're still good books to read)

Mediations - already stated above, helps put things in perspective and advocates for controlling yourself as opposed to your emotions controlling you

Old man and the sea - major theme of never letting anything defeat your spirit

Sun also rises - beautiful prose and essentially a discourse on staying away from roasties and entitled degenerates as such company will lose you the respect of authentic people.

Cannery row - no matter how poor/low on the social totem pole you are the social support of a strong community can ease life's troubles

Moby dick - allowing something to consume your life completely is incredibly self destructive

Zora the Greek - strong theme of how balance is important in life. Also to appreciate things in the moment

>>42141486
That's interesting that they have an improved translation, do you know what's better about it?

>>42142632
From what I remember reading it's supposed to be written closer to how the author himself would have phrased everything, while also being easier to read.
I mean it was written close to 2000 years ago so something's bound to be lost in time, and I'm certainly no historical linguist so I wouldn't be able to confirm if it's true or not. If you have another edition on hand you can try comparing something from the sample pages on Amazon or something.

>>42134681
St Augustine, summa theologica, anything by JP2

>>42134881
In the case of textbooks, I think the order is video lecture = book > IRL lecture, but it could be argued that video lectures are better than books. However, most of the books in this thread are fiction or philosophical books, and good luck getting the same information in video form.

>>42134878
underrated kek

>>42142740
Thanks again anon, I'll look into it. Being exposed to Aurelius' way of thinking was one of the most significant inspirations I've had, so I'd love to be able to gain a better understanding of his ideas.

>>42138312
Do you read any analytic philosophy Anon?

>>42140947
Cazzo non ne avevo mai sentito parlare

>>42134818
Fuck Steinbeck. There are far better treatments of his subject matter that don't overly simplify shit to a level that retarded middle schoolers can understand

>>42142826
Save for a few older, uninteresting ones those are all the books I own. I'm still entry level and new.

>>42134818
>harry potter
Is it actually good?

>>42134681
The Western Way of War by Victor Davis Hanson yo

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>>42142003

>>42134489
Camp of the Saints
The Fourth Turning
Brave new world
1984

>>42136148
rarely but some people learn faster through listening

t. one of those faggots also intp

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Thoughts?

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Currently reading this, really shows you the savagery that goes on in Africa. Dallaire spares no details.

>>42143252

not good.

There isn't much to gain from reading it

>>42134605

All this tells you is pussy is everything, and you should never marry and fuck sluts forever. Basically, don't care about women, but spend all your energy trying to outgame them and fuck them.

>>42134962
The Idiot made me break up with my whore of a girlfriend. Good read

>>42135026
Best book

>>42140705
If you want to get smart, do low reps (4-8 pages) for 5 sets with one minute of rest. If you want to increase reading speed, you need high reps, preferably till failure. Don't forget to stretch your fingers and eyes afterwards.

Memoirs of the Second World War by Winston Churchill

Long read and it could just be reading for goyim but I like so far.

>>42134711
>LaceCoollie level reading.
It is on the list and ive heard it was actually a pretty good read from everyone whose read it.

>>42141392
>Long ass introduction and a shitload of notes with short explanations or information about almost every paragraph
That sounds useful, I had a hard time understanding some of his ideas without context, plus the online version had a really old translation which was kind of hard for me to understand as I am not a native speaker.

>>42134962
>not pedo
This sounds assuring anon.

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>>42138312
I know this feel all too well, I just want to have a cabin in the woods so I can read all day long in peace.

>>42134881
Yea buddy, because YouTube channels are just as thorough and organized as a college textbook. I'm sure a team of doctors made bills programming channel

>>42134818
These '/lit/ top 100's' are notably hated on /lit/. Stop posting them.

>>42142003
You kind of went overboard with your hatred of fiction and philosophy, but I agree with a lot of what you said. A lot of people fall for the self improvement meme, and do a lot of useless time consuming activities like reading x pages a day or practicing guitar for y hours, while having no greater goal in life to which they would dedicate the majority of their time. Reading and shit are like accessory work, while having a goal is like the main lifts.

>>42145860
>His main goal is not finding eudaimonia trough apatheia
Not gonna make it

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>>42134981
>thousands of years old philosophy that has survived the rise and fall of civilizations
>guise is it a meme xD?

>>42134666
gates of fire is one of the best pieces of masculine literature ever written

>>42134981
this "book" is basically the scribblings of a 40 year old man who thinks like a egotistically nihilist 15 year old pretending to be Buddhist

>>42134681
>catholicuck
Everyone knows Presbyterian Protestantism is the best.

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Essentially a red pill for cancer, felt like a understood the disease and why its such a bitch to get rid of after this.

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>>42134489
If you're anything like me... download these as audiobooks right now to make social gains. Fuck brain gains. Literally no point in being smart if you can't work for a company that will let you use them.

>>42140933
How so? National Socialism is the most moral and purely logical way of thought that ever existed. It's the real enlightenment, not that French revolution era nonsense that lead to the decay of civilization.

>>42146294
No nigger. Classical liberalism is.

Quit fetishizing about the past.

>>42146208
If you like dale carnegie, read how to stop worrying and start living, it helps with my anxiety and mindset

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>>42146178
my make believe god, can beat up your make believe god

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>>42146308
>Quit fetishizing about the past.
Wat. Classical liberalism is even further from the past than National Socialism, and you just " fetishized" it. What good did Classical Liberalism ever do? All it did was lead western nations down the path toward multiculturalism, which is ruining us, something you can not deny.

I support National Socialism because it is a beautiful ideal of loving your own people and working together with them toward a better future for them. Out of all the governmental systems mankind has seen, it was so far the only one that brought happiness and prosperity to the entire native population of its country. No poverty, no unemployment, no crime. Every German had a place to belong to and guaranteed wellbeing. This could be applied to most peoples in the world, a lot of them could achieve the same through National Socialism.

>>42146371
Nigger, you're probably not even German. Probably some mutt mixed-lineage American.

Also modern liberalism and neoliberalism /= classical liberalism.

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>>42146339
>2017
>thinking richard dawkins is in any way a reliable or functionally literate source on religious studies

>>>/reddit/

>>42146394
What is with people on the internet always assuming the other person is American? I'm Finnish with the other side of my family from Germany. Both sides of my family fought on the Axis side.
>Also modern liberalism and neoliberalism /= classical liberalism
I didn't say it's the same thing, I said classical liberalism lead to it. Which is the truth. It was the original poison that ruined everything.

I don't care what USA does, they can have any system they want, but National Socialism is objectively the best for every European nation. We think and want to live differently than the people in the colonies. Old world, old rules.

>>42141084
>posts the bible
>quotes the satanic bible

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>>42134489
This

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>>42146349
Neckbeard makes valid points if you can shelf your emotions.

>>42146371
>Every German had a place to belong to and guaranteed wellbeing.
except for the jews amirite

>>42146427
You sound pseudo-intellectual enough to believe that the bible is a history book.

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>>42142003

>>42145817
Yeah sometimes I think it'd be nice to go live innawoods for like a year, just read and live with nature.

>>42134962
>The Idiot
I just finished this one, he was so pure, too good for this world.
Sometimes it made me rage how everyone blames him and he didn't dare to hurt anyone.

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I read this somewhere and it stuck with me.

If you want to get "smarter" or expand your outlook on life. Read every book that has ever been on a Banned List.

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>>42140705
it helps for me to pace back and forth while I read out loud like a maniac.
>>42141030
>parents come over
>they see dummies books
>insert never ending puns about dumbbells<
>the two neets who crash at my house also start in

>>42146818
Edgy

But at least you'll end up reading terrific works of art like catcher in the rye and the davinci code

>>42134813
fuck ayn rand nigga

>>42147124
>Edgy
Settle down kiddo, not everything has to be a meme word.

>>42147200
>fuck ayn rand
Why? Don't parrot back nonsense without forming your own educated opinion.

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>>42134489
Readings for chumps

>>42141148
JUst get audio books of the books you want to read.
I thought that would be an obvious solution.

>>42141415
Are you liking it? I've gotten mixed responses on /sffg/. It was recommended when I told them I enjoyed Wheel of Time, but I'm not certain that wasn't meant sarcastically.

>>42143252
This book made me hate Arnold. It's so blatantly obvious how he only made it because he sucked Joe Weider's circumicised dick on the reg

Books I personally recommend that aren't already here:
>>42134818
>>42134962

Would be:
>Industrial Society and its Future, by Ted Kaczysnki
>Extreme Ownership, by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin
>Demons, by Fyodor Dostoevsky
>Thinking Fast and Slow, by Daniel Kahneman
>Rules for Radicals, by Saul Alinsky
>The Name of the Rose, by Umberto Eco
>4 Hour Work Week, by Tim Ferriss
>Eisenhorn Trilogy, by Dan Abnett

You get a good mix of imaginative science fiction, speculative fiction, psychology, and real life principles. I'll admit that Eisenhorn is more like "junk food", but it's a good read nonetheless. Hard to beat that!

Any books like Gates of Fire? Read all of the Black Company books

>>42134813
Great post

>>42146580
read aquinas you poser

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>>42147933
>poser
That doesn't make sense. I am not pretending to be an atheist, nor am I trying to impress theists with my beliefs. What exactly am I posing as?

>>42147995
nice watermark redditor

Can someone explain me why people love The Stranger from Camus so much?
Read it years ago and was disappointed beyond imagination. It's just the story of someone who doesn't give a fuck.

>>42148000
that pictures been floating around 4chinz longer than you neckbeard

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>>42148093
ahahaha holy shit you're retarded

>>42142584
>Old man and the sea - major theme of never letting anything defeat your spirit

literal garbage. fuck hemmingway and fuck all his pretentious fan boys that think his writing is anything but pretentious trash

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>>42138312
>>42138312
are you me wtf

It feels weird knowing I'm not the only one amassing a book collection off of anonymous strangers on a Azerbaijani fish herding forum.

>>42148108
>damagecontrol damagecontrol
hurr durr ur retarded got him

>>42148365
>hasn't read aquinas
>claims the bible isn't historical
>posts reddit watermarks
keep posting man you're sure to impress somebody

>>42141433
Sisyphus is definitely better than the stranger in my opinion. I've been saving this quote for whenever I'm lost my way.

The Gods,” Albert Camus writes, “had condemned Sisyphus to ceaselessly rolling a rock to the top of a mountain, whence the stone would fall back of its own weight. They had thought with some reason that there is no more dreadful punishment than futile and hopeless labor.”


Your New Year’s resolution, which begins today, is your rock. Every day you will push it up the hill, only to watch it roll back down again. Some day soon, maybe a week from now or in mid-February, you will lace your sneakers for that new 2-mile daily run and your mind will go to work on you. “Why am I doing this? It’s cold out, and I hate running. My energy level hasn’t increased, and I haven’t lost a pound. It’s making me miserable, and I don’t want to do it anymore.”


And you won’t. You will abandon your rock and rejoice at being free of the weight. But the feeling won’t last because, as Camus says, “one always finds one’s burden again.” You will make other resolutions, on arbitrary dates throughout the year, in the never-ending pursuit of a better version of yourself. You will envision a thinner you, and the diet will begin. You will wake one morning with an indescribable emptiness and decide that a new hobby will fill the void. You will act unkindly toward someone you care about, and vow then and there to become a better person.


That is the absurdity of the human condition and the dark side of hope: Every breath is expelled in the pursuit of an imagined future. “I hope that denying myself chocolate makes me thinner, because then I will finally approve of me.” “I hope painting becomes my passion, because then I will be fulfilled.” “I hope that by doing good deeds, my life will have value.”

>>42148541

For their punishment to constitute torture, the Gods rely on the same kind of hope: “If I can just get this rock to the top of the mountain,” they want Sisyphus to whisper to himself, “then everything will be better.” Disappointment, they know, is inherent in the wish.


But the Gods underestimate him. Even amid this eternal and futile labor, Sisyphus finds joy in his burden, his fate. He becomes the “master of his days.”


“The struggle itself toward the heights,” Camus writes of Sisyphus, “is enough to fill a man’s heart.”

Torture isn’t pushing the rock, it’s pushing the rock toward a destination. So run not to be a runner, but to feel the cold air in your lungs and hear the whooshing sound of the world as you move through it. Paint not to be a painter, but because you love how the brush feels in your hand as it streaks color across a once-blank canvas. Be kind not to be a better person, but because it feels unnatural to be otherwise.


“One must imagine Sisyphus happy,” Camus says, and it’s sacred advice. To find joy in the doing is the best way to exist in the world.


It is the secret to life and resolutions.

>>42134501
this

Neckbeards trying to look cool by saying they're too cool for it, and it's shit.

While I enjoy "castles in the sky" philosophy, breaking down everything just for the pleasure of it, stoicism is the most hands-on real-life grounded system there is.

>>42142012
Phone-posting, Reddit-loving newfag please fuck off.

>>42134813
gutter philosophy for supermarket thinkers

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Get out of the way. Essential /fitlit/ coming through

>>42148541
>>42148550
Very insightful, anon. Cheers.

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Who is the most /fitlit/ philosopher? Is it Diogenes?

>>42146580
>Every German had a place to belong to and guaranteed wellbeing.
>except for the jews amirite
Is that a joke? They aren't German, they're a foreign parasite that was trying to ruin the Germans (and still is).