Best martial art for realistic self defense? Also how do you

>>42122054

Don't drink, don't fuck with married women, get a good job and live in a good neighborhood-fu.

Barring that, just pick something that wins in MMA. Sport vs. Street is bullshit. The claim that things that work in the ring don't work in the street is made by people who have wasted time and money training things that don't even work in the ring.

>>42122054
>Also how do you feel about the biggest sporting event of our life times?

Even though a lot of people are talking shit about what will happen, i'm glad it's happening.

It's all for the sport and entertainment. If they can entertain us, then the sport is being done some good.

Bravos to both fighters.

>>42122054
I guess it has to be posted for the millionth time: Boxing, wrestling, Jiu Jitsu, Muay Thai are all proven styles. And how is some leprechaun with zero boxing experience who will be ko'ed in 5 the sporting event of a generation?

It makes me sick to see a man wearing an american flag hoodie lose the crowd to some mouthy potato head at a press conference in the US. I'm rooting for Mayweather despite his racial handicap. I hope he murders that cunt.

Post >yfw Conor headkicks Floyd immediately after the bell rings to start Round 1

Muay Thai, BJJ, Judo, wing chun, any sort of martial arts training is going to give you a huge edge in a fight, simply because all these retards picking fights have no martial training. 9/10 martial artists won't start the fight, because they've been taught respect, it'll be some douchebag. But 9/10 times the martial artist will win the fight.

Also I'm pumped as fuck. Calling Mayweather wins based off endurance

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>>42122138
I unironically think this will happen.

>>42122054
>literally retarded groid vs scrappy irish man
50 on Mayweather plz

Alright, let's get this straight.

Krav Maga is the single best martial art, everything else is just aggressive ballet. It's also the nuclear option when it comes to fighting,since you basically fucking cripple anyone who's coming at you. If you want to be able to throw a punch in some street brawl or something, then boxing is all you need. But if you want to know that nobody can fuck with you, Krav Maga is the way to go.

>>42122178

Krav maga is not a martial art.

But is the best for self defense.

>inb4 BJJ is the best autism

>>42122054

Buying a gun

>>42122054
Connor is gonna beat the book out of that little pussy faggot

49-1

>best martial art
Army combatives

>Mayweather vs MacGregor
I hate both of their personalities. I prefer MMA to boxing. Mayweather is old. But Mayweather is the best counterpuncher in decades. MacGregor will not be able to handle boxing gloves. He's used to hitting a guy twice to drop him. That won't work with thick boxing gloves.

Mayweather by KO in the 3rd round.

>>42122138
I honestly wish this would happen. Can you imagine the media shitstorm?

It would be Tyson's "Bite Fight" all over again and McGregor would go down as the biggest heel in sports history

>>42122054
If you're picking fights with white folks its bjj. If you're picking fights with niggers do something standup like boxing or muay thai. Niggers have no sense of honor and will have their friends kick you in the head once you go to the ground with them so you need to stay on your feet

krav maga
A martial arts which is more suited to real life than shit like Karate and Kick-Boxing.

>>42122138
>both fighters still take home bank
>both fighters don't "Lose"
>want an autorematch which will never happen but keep being delayed till no one cares for it
>both fighters can still talk shit to each other hyping up whatever else they want

It makes the most sense

I hope gingerboy kicks that nig's head in.

I don't even know who the black guy is and I barely know about the white guy but I hope he fucks him up bad solely based on race

>>42122374

Is not a martial art, you idiot

BJJ is for whites is a gay bullshit statement, you can use Krav Maga anyway against a whitey or a nigtrash

>>42122339
actually solid advice

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>>42122054
Honestly, boxing and wrestling are the best for self defense.

McFaggot is going to get his ass beat and I can't wait.

>pic related
Conor after getting fucked in the ass by Floyd.

Judges are going to rig the fight like with Pacquiao
Potato boy is going to win and the showoff is probably in on it somehow

>>42122290
Army combatives guys really suck at grappling and striking in my experience.

>>42123010

Yeah, solid as my turds

>>42123274
Should prob increase your fiber intake. Mild stool softener after that.

Target focus training

Not memeing. It's not how to get someone to tap its just how to rekk someone expediently

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>>42122054
Boxing+some basics of BJJ is basically all you'll ever need. 90% of people have no idea how to fight or even how tiring it is. Most people will gas out after a minute.

As for 'Da Big Fight™',

It'll be shit. McGregor will lose because Floyd will do what he always does and box for points, throwing out a few fast taps then running around the ring. Cue years of shit talking.

Modern boxing is garbage. The only way to make it worth watching is to go back to the earlier rules where there's no points and no round limit, you box until one guy gives up or gets knocked out.

>>42122178
Hey man, have some points to back up what you just said?
Not trying to be an asshole, I actually want to see something that shows Krav Maga being as good as they say it is.

Best defense is a nice fast 400m sprint

Mayweathetr on points

>>42122107
>it's all for sport and entertainment

It's a cash grab bro, one of the worst in the history of fighting.

That's said I'm looking forward too it.

>>42123267
Same. Every formal military guy got worked in grappling.

>>42122085
IDK, I think guard is less effective in street since they can just go to the groin.

But yeah barring a few things, learn all the stuff the MMA fighters are doing on each other.

>>42123922
If they go for the groin against a decent jits player, that's one arm in, one arm out, basically getting set up for a triangle or armbar.

The real problem with the guard is if you're against a wrestler or a strong ass motherfucker they can powerbomb you onto concrete. You can kind of defend it by grabbing their ankles, but the risk is there.

>>42123426

This.

No amount of boxing will save you against the nigga who comes up behind you with a gun/baseball bat

>>42122313
I'think would cement his legend as the madman he is. People would love it .

>>42122339
so true

>>42122054
>Best martial art for realistic self defense?

400m sprint

>>42122218
if krav maga is so good why didn't anyone with a krav maga background do well in the UFC back when there were no rules or weight classes?

even a ninjitsu guy won one of them

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>>42122054

KRAV MAGA

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>>42122054

Connor has tiny nipples

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>>42122054

you realize they're both manlets and any fully grown male who's 90kg+ would kill them with minimal training (like 2-3 weeks of training)

>>42122085
>don't fuck with married women

That's one of the perks of my job anon. They buy me nice stuff too

Mayweather has no power. That being said, mcgregor hasn't felt real gloves from a real boxer. Mayweather will more than likely win, mcgregor doesn't have the boxing skill needed. People are stupid fucks for hyping this fight up. It's gonna be dumb af and they are both gonna get massive paydays while all the idiots who hype it up ain't gonna get shit except being a part of the conversation. Bunch of bandwaggon faggots

>>42125977
What's ur job how do I get it

>>42125982
Shut up nigger, you don't know shit. Closest things to a set of gloves you have ever felt is the love glove your dad puts on before fucking your ass

>>42122290
>army combatives
Are you actually fucking retarded?

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>>42125994

>>42125990
They're old ladies anon. Ones 53 and the others 61. I work at a condo in Palm beach as a concierge. 9 stories and only 14 tenants because some bought entire floors. Its only 17 an hour plus tips but these people dont carry singles. I got it because my friend details their cars and heard about the opening

>>>/asp/

>>42123240

>Rigged

Manny was made to look foolish and whiffed everything. Judy because you think spamming more punches makes more points doesn't make it true.

>>42125994
Did it hit a little too close to home?

>>42122178
systema shits on your jewish bs

>>42122054
isnt this that new rocky film?

>>42125994
Also, not a nigger you dumb bitch. I hate Floyd, I would prefer if he lost. I actually respect mcgregor for agreeing to floyds rules. You're a real tough guy ya know

>>42122241
>>42125971
stop making me feel like i've outgrown this place already

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>>42122054
>how do you feel

I will feel a lot better if Conor wins, but who knows.

>>42123401
other martial arts have elements of mercy and no intent to cause perma-injury. Krav Maga is small joint manipulation and other 'unsportsmanlike' combat

>>42125858
because you still couldn't gouge their eyes and bite at your opponents fleshy, vulnerable ballsack

>>42122054
>Best martial art for realistic self defense?
Realistically? None, if it gets to that point you're fucked, because you're opponent is likely armed and you'll be outnumbered.
Try some Parkour so you can flee, or Judo if you really want to fight.

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>Best martial art for realistic self defense?

Words of an expert;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0jnP7Su_2s

Short answer is MMA.
There are several forms of martial arts that would give you the upper hand in a street fight but there is also several that won't like Taekwondo. Any martial art that you can go from white belt to black belt while remaining obese is bullshit

>>42122135
i'm pretty torn.. i mean mayweather has the most annoying fighting style there is.. but at the same time, he said he would walk out to either the national anthem or born in the US. if he walks out to either of those songs i'd have to route for him

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>>42125939
You do know those women soldiers have been proving in studies to be worthless, they are now trying to them out the forces.

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>>42123377
>The only way to make it worth watching is to go back to the earlier rules where there's no points and no round limit, you box until one guy gives up or gets knocked out.
As someone who's never really been interested in the sport, this would be the only way to get me into it.

I get people like it for the skill and finesse or whatever, I just don't care, watching Mayweather box is fucking boring.
>>42122138
The only way I'm going to watch any part of this fight is if this happens.

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>>42126251

>worthless

It really depends on a country and their training.

>>42125982

Mayweather has no power against other elite boxers. Against a pretender like Conor he'll light him up and drop him multiple times until the ref stops it or the corner throws in he towel. No chance this lasts 12 rounds.

>>42126468
>Against a pretender like Conor he'll light him up and drop him multiple times
>a guy that's used to getting kicked in the head by other top martial artists
ok nigger

>>42122382
LOL.

conor would lose his entire fight purse, be sued into oblivion and probably be charged with assault. not to mention having the shit kicked out of him by mayweathers goon squad

>>42126135
that is why russian girls should date black men

>>42126478
>>a guy that's used to getting kicked in the head by other top martial artists

that dont actually know how to throw a proper punch

also the sheer volume of punches mayweather will be able to land through mgregors gaping holes in the defense will kill him

>>42126478

>MMA "athletes"
>top martial artists

Where can I get updates for that fight?
Any Youtube channel or websites?

>>42122290
>KO McGregor
Yeah no shot. Mayweather is gonna win because judges

>>42124771
MMAfags would jizz because they see that cocky tear finally get wrecked by a real move.
Boxingfags would be horrified

It'd be great

>>42126537
>>42126580
>someone with a fist as light as Mayweather will KO a guy that's used to getting kicked in the head by professional athletes
I don't believe McGregor will win either, but if you think someone with pillows for fists will KO him you're delusional.

>>42126601

Conor will not be able to keep the fight remotely competitive enough to last 12 rounds

It will just be a depressing beatdown and the ref will eventually put him out of his misery

>>42122054
boxing

>>42126815
> guy lunges and tackles you to the ground
> game over

>>42126614
flloyd can impart more force with boxing gloves and he can do it with 10x more precision than anyone else mcgregor has faced before

no one is saying mayweather is mike tyson, but mcgregors D is so laughable that mayweather will be able to tee off at will. and it doesnt take some kind of titan strength to knock someone out

>>42126842
> avoiding a giant glove Vs. Someone's padded fist

>>42122138
>>42122162
They will fight within Boxing rules, not MMA

>>42126915
> he does it anyway

>>42126829

>going to the ground in a street fight

yeah great idea

>>42126944
How is boxing supposed to teach you how to prevent yourself from going to the ground? Look at how Robert Whittaker fights against a wrestling god like Yoel Romero. He used his footwork and angles to cut off takedowns, but Romero still managed to shoot. How did Whittaker get up and keep the fight on his feet? Wrestling. He stood up with hand control, sprawled, framed on the head, used his whizzer, basically everything you would do to prevent a guy from taking you down in a wrestling match. A competent martial artist needs to be able to fight on their feet and have a plan for getting up/submitting if someone takes you down.

Let's be real, the best thing you can do is learn how to throw a quick, crisp, accurate punch to the jaw and run away as fast as you can

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Fuck this mayweather v megregor shit. It won't hold a candle to the Golovkin v Carnelo fight

>>42122339
What about arabs and turks?

>>42127534
Golovkin will fuck Carnelo raw

Don't fall for the wing chun meme

Boxing is pretty fucking good because it's easy to find a good gym

Muay thai is harder to find a good gym but is really good if you do find one

Bjj is good and relatively easy to find a good gym

Combat sambo is god tier but very difficult to find a good gym

>>42122054
Floyd is fucking 40.

>>42127534
Too bad nobody cares about beaner manlets pillowfighting with hulk hands

The only thing entertaining about the McTato vs Old Nigger fight is the potato guy's bantz

Don't fall for the Taekwondo meme, it is basically rendered useless once your opponent gets 'inside' your kick range. ITF style is a little bit less useless than WTF, but neither are ideal for self defense. Wing Chun is borderline useless too. In terms of pure self defense, as many have said, BJJ, MT, etc are good options. I'd also add Kempo and Shotokan Karate, and also Jeet Kune Do. It's ideal to find an art that suits your style and goals the best.

>>42127534
This. Although Triple G will win because he's an absolute monster, even at 35.

>>42123377
>go back to the earlier rules where there's no points and no round limit,
I agree with this stuff. The number one way to ruin a sport is to leave the decision of who wins to some sort of jury instead of having strict and easily applicable rules enforced by an arbiter.

>>42124722
>>42123426
But negroes run faster than whites on average. It's a fact.

Also, what if you got someone you are with? Gonna abandon him there?

>>42127534
Imagine GGG vs mayweather. Now that I would pay to see.

>>42126251
females in the military are just a part of the trend where women get all the cushy government jobs in which you are paid to do practically nothing. It's just the latest form of welfare.

If there actually were serious 20th-century-like wars on the regular there wouldn't be any women there.

>>42127538
Depends on the occassion.
If you actually meet up to fight turks and it somehow happens to be a 2vs12, you're gonna fight one versus one without anyone stepping inside, because it's gonna be a win or lose situation.

If they happen to be in a group and happen to get into a fight, all of them will

>>42122054
the best one is the one that learns you boxing, kicking, use of elbow and knees, and grappling.

I think the fight seems cool, but theyre both counter-strikers, so it could get boring.

>>42122054
>Best martial art for realistic self defense?
Have you seen the G20 riots a few days ago? There should still be some vids on youtube. Basically, it was a mostly unarmed FFA between commies and cops.

Well, I've seen some footage (I guess it's offline now for showing "police brutality" and shit like that, lol, fuck commies) and basically, NOTHING people generally train in (Muay Thai, MMA, Boxing, etc) worked at all.

Examples:
Cop rushes commie, commie does a nice MT roundhause kick to the head of the Cop. Problem: Cop is now already inside, kick only hits with the thigh/knee area, no damage. Cop overruns commie, commie falls, cop wants to kick but is finally hit by another commie with a metal bar. This is enough to make to cop stop for a second. Muay Thai didn't do anything.

Example 2:
Cop takes down commie (Hint: It was more of a tackle, since you can't fall on your knees on concrete like you do in a real takedown), gets immediately massed by other commies, can only be rescued by the other cops chiming in.

Example 3:
Boxing strikes from both sides failed to KO anyone with one strike (well, cops are wearing helmets, so it's understandable, but cops couldn't KO commies either), striker gets zerged immediately. Also, there are arms and legs everywhere in a fight, very , VERY hard to make a clean strike like in a match.

And so on. Height and weight didn't help anyone either. Only thing that generally worked was
a) weapons, even on armored opponents
b) rushing and overruning, best done with friends close behind you

It was rather eye-opening, to be honest. Btw, groundfighting didn't happen, because you got zerged at once and kicked in the head.

>>42122178
KM instructors get beaten up to shit on the street of Germany all the time. Sorry.

Maybe someone can post the facebook post about it.

>>42128247
If you saw a video of someone punching someone else in the head and they didn't go down its because they are either comically weak or don't know how to punch. For all the videos you watched of the riots there are 5x as many videos of boxers laying people out in one hit because they know how/where to punch

>>42128399
I prefer videos that aren't staged or about sucker punching some idiot kid, sorry.

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>>42126513
>that is why russian girls should date black men

>>42122054
>Best martial art for realistic self defense?
running

/thread

>>42126155
>Any martial art that you can go from white belt to black belt while remaining obese is bullshit
Nah. Fighting has really nothing to do with fitness.

Think about it.
Muscly? You gotta be relaxed. Big muscles are a no-no. Good muscle tone? Also a no-no. The more relaxed, the better.
Cardio? A fight is maybe 20 seconds. You'll manage, bro.
Flexibility? You only need stretching for high kicks, which nobody does anyway (too easy to counter). Aside from that, what for?
Anaerobic cardio? You're gonna be out of breath after a few punches because of adreanilne and stress anyway. Sprints won't save you (ask any boxer).

Fighting is 90% mental, so obese fucks can be good at it, too, just like skinny runts or muscular people. There is really no correlation.

Now, in combat sports, it looks differently, of course. But fighting? Come on.

>>42126468
Gayweather can't even KO his own wife, man.

>>42128413
There are plenty of videos that aren't staged or aren't sucker punches. Knowing how to properly throw a punch greatly tips the scales in your favor. Knowing proper movement does too.

>>42126135
That would be awesome and way better than whatever you would get just robbing the place

>>42128566
All of that flies oput of the window in a pressure situation, which was seen at G20 and is my whole point. Just watch the vids, man, I'm not talking about two drunks punching each other where one has boxing training.

I'm talking about groups of trained martial artists against each other - G20.

If you still want to get your head rammed into the ground, be my guest, I couldn't care less.

The way i see it Mcgregor just can't get knocked out. If they are even close on points, then Mcgregor just came in to a new sport after a few months and went toe to toe with the champ. Mayweather can't just beat him, he has to destroy Mcgregor if he wants to hold his head up after this. He chose a shitty deal.

>>42125850
Unironically This

>>42128607
>I'm talking about groups of trained martial artists against each other - G20.
Are you calling those antifa commies martial artists?

>>42128648
>just came in to a new sport after a few months and went toe to toe with the champ.
Theyll call it beginners luck if he is close. Not skill.

>>42128607
First, I would be surprised if the g20 riots were exclusively martial artists duking it out. Second, training in a full contact art that involves sparring prepares you for pressure situations. Finally, whatever the circumstances having training will help you either win a fight or know when getting out of there would be better.

Just try and see where I'm coming from: practicing fighting will help you in a fight. It doesn't have to make you mother fucking Achilles but it certainly will help you get better at fighting which means you will be able to defend yourself better

i don't know mayweather at all, but mcgregor acts like a total nigger. see that fag's suit? the one with the 'fuck you' pinstripe?

fucking irish trash.

>>42125971
You're full of shit. When I started BJJ I was 92kg and strong as fuck and I thought that I was going to dominate all the white and blue belts. I got my ass handed to me by white belts who had trained for 6 months.. Now I'm a 4 stripe white belt and I get beat up by brown belt girls on a regular basis.

>>42126135
Bas used to run KM classes

>>42128755

striking and grappling are two different worlds.

I'm thinking of taking up boxing. Will I lose all of my gains if I go down this route?

>>42128854

ask Shannon "The Cannon" Briggs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DRnSZhhgA8

>>42128854
If you work out more than 3 times a week then yes, you are going to get a bit smaller. Boxing (or any martial art that works) is going to make you alpha as fuck so it's worth it IMO.

>>42122054
>Best martial art for realistic self defense?
Glock

>>42122054
Connor will lose badly, I don't believe anybody thinks he has a chance, c'mon. Saw his sparring training about two weeks back and cringed really, really hard.
This event is all money.

Connor's MMA jabs versus Floyd defense is a solid kek.

Connor may be the king of shittalking, but Floyd is the king of boxing. Saying this as somebody who really don't like Floyd as a person.
I am honestly curious what will Connor have to say after the match, when Floyd will be sitting on the corner pole of the ring with his hands high

>>42122138
>Floyd still dodges it and lands a counter

>>42128874
LET'S GO CHAMP!
Lmao, Briggs is the Rich Piana of boxing.
Looks like still didn't get through the horrible loss against Vitali. He's funny guy tho

>>42129439
Lands a counter kick, that will KO Connor*
10/10 would kek

>>42129420

I think Conor has a few advantages:
Size
Reach
KO power (how that fares with 10oz gloves idk)
No real footage of him boxing matches
On the other hand, he has 21 years of footage of Mayweather to find his holes and analyze it and find his holes (if he has any)
Unorthodox fighting style
Young vs old. How much has Mayweather lost?

I am not saying Conor will win, but he has a few advantages

>>42129452

Didnt he tear his left bicep in that fight?

>>42129473
Damn, didn't know that. He is still a beast for his age though.

>>42122339
Best post I've seen on this garbage board in a while.

>>42129473
Okay, size and reach is advantage for Connor.
But what will his reach mean, when they will be sticked one on another and Floyd dodging everything and countering?

He is undefeated afaik, professionally speaking. Think he lost some match in Olympics though.

It will be a funny match.

>>42129473
And people forget that connor is extremely good with timing and covering distance.
The covering distance part may not be important in boxing, but it could surprise floyd.

I still think floyd will win with his 5k runs and hugs. He is too good of a pointfighter. But im still hoping for a KO from connor.

>>42122339
This is good advice.

>>42129570

The reach will mean that he can hold him off with the jab and if Mayweather closes the gap he will clinch. I think Conors clinch is superior to Mayweathers. His size and height will allow him to lean on Mayweather and tire him out if it goes to the later rounds.

It can very well be that we will see a very dirty fight from Conor.

>>42129582
Exactly. Thats why I think that Conor has to either finish it early, before Floyd figures him out or lean on him and just make it a grueling clinch fight.

I am hoping that Conor will not get his ass handed to him. It would ruin his momentum and trash talk in the UFC

>>42129473

this would mean something if Conor actually knew how to box

>>42128502
How do get faster kicks, so I don't get countered?

>>42122054

>Best martial art for realistic self defense?

a gun

standing fight? boxing
grappling? wrestling

All american baby fuck your nipshit

Quite honestly of the mates I have that have done boxing, martial arts and MMA, only the boxer has never lost a street fight?

>/fit/ discussing the MayMac fight

Please, just... just stop.

>>42126103
That's what makes it so good.

All this "honour" and "fight like a man" bullshit is utterly retarded when some drunk cunt is trying to fuck you up.

>>42122290
>>42126537
>KO
macgregor is much tougher than mayweather. he will not get knocked out

>>42127754
So stop being a slow ass witeboi??

>>42126113
so at krav maga gyms you practice biting off ball sacks or what? anyone could do that with no training

>>42129976

>Mr Tapout
>tough

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>>42122178

>>42122085
Because sport trains you to fight when you're at an unfair advantage with multiple attackers, weapons, being injured, and so on.

Sport is good for stressing competition. But the problem with street is that it doesn't bring enough stress to the test.

Both have faults and both should be combined. Thats like neglecting deadlifts and squats or turning down a threesome.

>>42126251
Great source, much troll, less rambo, more wow, good dog

>>42122339
>failing to mention Judo
Into the trash it goes

>>42122107
Exactly. Everyone saying this is a cash grab but that is what entertainment is about.

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Here you go /fit/

>>42122054
boxing or bjj
it'll be so heavily skewed it doesn't matter. mayweather is at a point where he won't take a fight he doesn't know he'll win. been that way for years.

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>>42130552
>aikido
>wing chun
>deadly

>>42122138
I do hope Conor will get tired of Floyd's style and just fucking kick him in the face or elbow him in a clinch
it would make this boring fight bearable
still gonna watch it though

>>42129692
Relax. Just throw them feet around like you want to break them on your opponent.

However, after you reach a certain height (general hip upwards), kicks can always be countered.

>>42128671
Antifa is big into martial arts. Especially the shock troops like the "Schwarze Block" group who did most of the G20 fighting. Maybe you don't know, but here in Europe, extremists all do some kind of martial art.

>>42128684
>First, I would be surprised if the g20 riots were exclusively martial artists duking it out.
Then you're obviously not European. Antifa extremists always do martial arts, they even have their own training camps. Cops also do martial arts because they generally may not shoot criminals.

>Second, training in a full contact art that involves sparring prepares you for pressure situations.
I can tell you from experience (Full Contact Karate, Kickboxing, Wrestling, Judo) that this is not true at all. In fact, too much sparring is a thing and will absoluetly wreck you in a real fight. Lots of reasons for that.

>practicing fighting will help you in a fight.
This is true. But sparring isn't fighting. Unfortunately, you cannot simulate a real fight without a very high risk of injury and being a complete asshole to your sparring partners. It's like training checkers for a chess tournament. Sure, it's related, but it's not nearly the same.

Just think about it: Lots of people do sparring, also very hard sparring. Almost none of them can really fight and pitter patter slap punches with no commitment, panic when they have to go to the ground and don't have the gall to really pull through when grappling.

You cannot spar with the goal of not hurting the other guy and expect this to make you a better fighter when it comes down to hurting the other guy.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not a weeb who never got punched in the face, but after years of practicing sparring and fighting on the street, I can guarantee you that sparring and fighting don't go together very well. If you're a natural fighter, you don't need sparring. If you're a natural coward, sparring won't help you (except shooting up your Cortisol and lowering your test).

>>42130271
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2394531-marine-corps-force-integration-plan-summary.html

>>42126915
>seriously implying he wont do it anyway
First round, kicks him straight in the nose, kills him instantly, loses by default, but lol who care king nig nog is dead.

>>42122054
Honestly?
> Running
Beats fighting every time. But if you want real martial arts:
> Combination between BJJ and Kickboxing

Mayweather wins for free if its boxing rules, Mcgregor is terrible boxer.

>>42122135
Connor is king when it comes to shit talking. Floyd lost the crowd because hes an illiterate nigger who can barely string a sentence together, he has to repeat the same shit over and over.

HARD WORK

>>42131458
>antifas are big in martial arts
They're fucking clowns m8.
T. Knower

>>42126158
>i route for guy because he walks out to national anthem

fucking lol. i thought the whole american patriotism thing was mostly done as a meme. Stop taking your country so seriously. Do you shed a tear whenever you see your flag?

>>42122054
>Best martial art for realistic self defense?
Tiger style kung fu.

>>42131804
Yes, absolutely.

>>42131800
Sure thing, Mr. American. Tell me some more about my country, lol.

>>42122178
Lmao people who do krav maga are such douchebags. The krav place near me sells t shirts that say "groin kicks are free" and there's a bunch of beta white guys posing with them on their social media. Krav maga is cool for playing pretend I guess

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>>42131870
I'm french and i've been involved alot with antifas my dude.
They're clowns.
None in their ranks is from the military compared to natsocs.
They have improvised weapons that are garbage.
Most of them shake when they hold a knife, they'd be more scared to stab you than if you actually stabbed them.

>>42129692
set them up with punches, always. You set up with a punch, any opponent will instinctively block or dodge or simply close their eyes, thus allowing you to throw a well placed kick.

If you are strong and have decent technique, go for leg kicks. As someone who trained for 10 years in kyokushin and kickboxing, i tell you, i knocked guys out with low kicks when they least expected. They curl up on the ground and yell in pain, especially if it's on the inside of the thigh. High kicks have a high risk high reward, while low kicks have low risk high reward. Mid section kicks are only good if you can quickly smash someone's liver, otherwise it's a recipe for disaster, since everyone will instinctively block their ribs with elbows, and a shin to the elbow is not a pretty sight.

>>42122054
He's going to lose but if it was a 'who looks like the maddest cunt' competition Conor would be a shoe in

>>42128169
You are talking bullshit I'm a kebab myself and had to stab shit ton of uppity kebab trying to zerg rush me. Had to save germans because they tried 1vs1, I just stabbed one of them in the back and moved the knife inside the wound till all of them ran away.

>>42129715
As someone who is totally unfamiliar with grappling but thinks about starting, I have to ask. Why wrestling and not bjj or judo?

>>42123023
I would say boxing and judo.

For street situations I would say the goal is to never get on the ground and you want to be able to do punches and throws.

Hence my picks.

>>42122054
Aside from all the meme answers; boxing, wrestling, fillipino martial arts. I say the latter because its basically no holds barred street fighting martial arts; they teach you how to shank, how to defend against knives, how to gouge out eyes while blocking, etc. Etc.

>>42123377
You faggots don't understand the skill and technique involved and want everyone to have brain damage.

>>42132374

because all american baby

>>42122085
>Don't drink, don't fuck with married women, get a good job and live in a good neighborhood-fu

I see you too, sought asylum after the civil war on /asp/ brother.

>>42132374
For self defence purposes wrestling is much better. Throwing people on the ground and staying on your feet vs trying to get tyrone in your guard for a sick triangle while jamal and daquan stomp you.

>>42122085
>sports vs street is bullshit
Last i checked they don't train pressure points or improvised weapons in sports

Also
>training for sports is the same as training for a life or death situation
If you had two fighters with equal amounts of training, one in the latter
and one in the former, the latter would win in a life or death situation, while the former would win in a ring. It's really that simple.

>>42130063
yeah that's why it's bullshit
it's like self defence classes telling girls to kick guys in the ball, useless

>>42122135
>boohoo, the nigger from my country is losing the crowd because he's shit compared to the superior white Irish guy!! Boo, white guy! Let's go nigger!

>>42122054
Listen to Bas Rutten. Krav Maga is the way to go for self defense because it teaches you to do things that are illegal in sports (groin kicks etc).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0jnP7Su_2s

THEY TEACH IT TO THE SOLDIERS IN ISRAEL.

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>>42122054
Fucking disgusting nigger getting nigger germs on my flag

>>42134466
>THEY TEACH IT TO THE SOLDIERS IN ISRAEL
Yeah so they can beat up on poor Palestinian farmers who don't fight back

>>42132937
No it's not. The sport trained martial artist can more easily pressure test his skills against live moving opponents while a "self defense" martial artist cannot and will have a harder time implementing them against a resisting noncompliant opponent.
It's that simple

>>42122085
>don't drink
Fuck that Whiskey and Camels for life faggot
>Don't fuck with married women
A hoe is a hoe
>get a good job
Fuck that, stack your cash and have a good time

If you aren't channeling your inner Lemmy you're a fag

>>42125858
Is Ninjutsu a real thing?

Like what the fuck

>>42134826
Palestine is a shithole where they literally kill you if you have the "wrong" religious views, unlike Israel. They can nuke that place out of existence for all i care.

>>42132689
Whynotboth.jpg

>>42122054
I dunno about self defense but rasslin is the most /fit/ martial art there is

BJJ+Muay Thai and maybe kike maga

>>42134398
Is there something you want to talk about anon? You're projecting pretty hard. It's okay to feel insecure sometimes. It's not okay to ignorantly shitpost and not be funny you nigger loving faggot. Fucking kys. Faggot.

>>42122054
Boxing.

If you have the time commitment/access, I'd say 1 yr boxing, BJJ till blue belt, MMA gym 1 yr, gun safety/handling course, and then after all of that philipino martial arts indefinitely, in that order.

>>42123377
OP, listen to this guy. I've done martial arts for a long time and competed for a while years ago. I would recommend BJJ be where you start for a variety of reasons:
BJJ is far more likely to have high quality instruction than any other martial art because of the quality controls in the art.

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>>42134952
I wonder who is behind this post

>>42131028
Only wing chun practitioner I know is 6ft and 250lb, obviously pretty shredded probably 15%bf, you better believe that nigga is deadly.
That being said, the dude could probably turn a pair of goose down pillows into nunchucks and kill someone.

>>42127534
what happened to their belly buttons

>>42122054
A combination of BJJ, kickboxing, and wrestling

>>42122054
It'll either be a suprise knockout >3rd round by Connor or a unanimous decision for Floyd.

>>42134900
>Fuck that, stack your cash and have a good time

Kinda like the cash that you'd get from a good job?

>>42128755

you're bad at something and clearly unco-ordinated that must mean everyone else in the world is

>>42122054
Aikido is hands down the BEST thing for self defense. The downside is that it's not really for initiating a fight.

>>42122054
Boxing and enough highschool wrestling to know how to handle yourself on the ground and most importantly to stay off of the ground.

>>42129976
McGregor has never fought 12 rounds against a professional boxer, let alone one of the GOATs. He will get picked apart, gas, and then either knocked out or TKO'd.

>>42122054
Who else thinks it's a fitting matchup, considering the Irish are literally the niggers of the anglo world?

MCMAP, I'd say.
I don't think they teach that shit outside of the USMC though

>>42130552
>judo
>an actual "fight"

You people realize it's literally just a competition sport, not any different in application or effectiveness as something like kendo, right? You do realize the only reason international competitions have been getting more "violent" have been because an uptick in darkskins practicing it and to sell an image to compete with BBJ for popularity, right? You guys do understand that vast majority of judo training is expressly about how to not hurt anyone when throwing and grappling them, right, and that the scoring is based off of positioning and not actually making someone tap or hurting them, right?

You guys do understand this, right? No, you're fucking retarded? Okay.

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>>42122153
>wing chun

>>42122290
>mayweather by ko

wanna know how I know you don't know shit about fighting?

They're both gonna get a 9 figure payout, so neither of them can really fucking lose.
Fuck, Connors a hard headed, possibly brain damaged irish cunt: he'd take this fight even if the payout was a round of beers and bragging rights. I legit believe that he KNOWS he can't beat Mayweather in the boxing ring.
He's just doing it because it's a god-tier payday for both of them, and Mayweather ain't the type of guy that'll actually DAMAGE him. Mayweather's probably doing it because it'll make him look good, add to his hoard of money and give MMA a bit of respect for boxing.

Mayweather's gonna play passive for the first half. Connor will come out strong, maybe land a half decent shot or two, then he'll start to gas at around the same time Mayweather gets a handle on Connor. The later rounds will consist of Mayweather picking apart Connor slowly enough to put on a good show before getting either a KO/TKO in the later rounds or a decisive point victory.

>>42136386
You do realize that modern judo is pretty much the only style dedicated to stand up clinch work, right? You do realize that having the level of clinch fluency that well trained judo can provide is invaluable in kickboxing, muay thai, boxing, bjj and wrestling, right? You do realize that judo is one of the cheapest martial arts that has been proven to be effective based on results and a foundation of alive resistance sparring, right?

You do understand this, right? No, you're fucking retarded? Okay.

>>42128247
dude... martial arts is no for you to go and fight in riots or against Police or against guys wearing helmets or have bats of any Kind...

It does no matter if you are a boxer or MMA Fighter, if you see a Cop or someone with a gun, knife, bat... you GO.
I fought couple streetfight and i fought couple professional MMA fights. All of them was fun, nothing to bad happened. Life is not a holyhood movie, i never fought against the Police and will never do.

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>>42123023
Roach vs roach

>>42126032
>going on /wwe/ to post about martial arts
>2017
Those days are long gone

>>42132405
but why not just get good at fighting on the ground? You can always take someone to the ground by just tackling them
I feel that a lot of people dont do any competitive fighting and instead just punch bags and think "as long as I dont get on the ground i'll punch the shit out of them"
not true, you'll get taken down. also start fighting real ppl not a bag

>>42131804
i will usually start clapping

>>42129469
>A man can dream

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>>42122339
Wow most useful advice I've ever seen here.

>>42122290
Maybe level IV and higher, but level I is literally "good enough to get your ass beat in a bar fight."

>>42122054
Boxing + running

>>42122054
>est martial art for realistic self defense?
Sambo or Krav Meme

>>42136202
t. someone who thinks he will do good in a fight because he's really good at lifting heavy things

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Step aside plebs, we all know pankration is the GOAT

>>42128755
this! I took BJJ a couple years back and the instructor was a skinny manlet and im talking like 5'6 max he would destroy the guys twice his size who were shredded as fuck every time and a lot of them had been there for a long time

>>42129715
>All american baby fuck your nipshit
>All american
Both Boxing and Wrestling are Greek.
Get your shit together, learn some history.
Both diciplines were in the olympic games in ancient Greece.

>>42136862
training to fight on the ground is great in a 1v1 but if jamal gets back up from his buddies youre 100% fucked which is why you should try to stay on your feet and boxing and other contact sports are more than just hitting a bag you do train to fight real people the bag is just there to help practice to hit harder and better but on top of that you do spar with people i'd say bjj and boxing is probably they way to go but I would like to try muy thai

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>>42127584
reeeeeeeeeee you take that back

I'd get being hyped for this fight if Mcgregor was some kind of a fucking MMA god who never lost and amazing things in the octagon, but all he did was knock out some already brain-damaged people. He has zero actual boxing experience and Mayweather is an expert at playing it safe.

I don't know shit about competetive fighting and even I can tell that this entire thing is retarded and done mainly for money.

>>42138532
And where does this money come from? Entertainment. People want to see this, the money doesn't appear from nowhere, the reason they are going to become richer after this fight is because it's going to be the biggest fight in years. Like Dana White said, the fans demanded it.

>>42122054
brazillian jiu jitsu is hands down the skill to learn for realistic self defense. Muy thai is also effective but it focuses heavily on stand up striking which unless you're the same size or bigger than your opponent won't work as well. Wrestling and boxing were created with a sport in mind, so they're help you learn proper footwork, leverage, and basic defense positions they're limited because they also assume you're following a set of rules.

Jiu Jitsu was literally created to be effective self defense even against an opponent twice your size. that's why every (good) UFC fighter has some level of experience with it

>>42138661
Sure, but the fight itself is pretty much guaranteed to be boring as fuck.

>>42136386
You've clearly never been thrown if you believe that when we throw people, we try to make it safe for them. Nigger literally the first thing you learn in judo is HOW TO FALL because the average retard has no fucking clue how to land. It's not the thrower's responsibility to protect them, but the person being thrown to defend themselves. If I throw Daquan in "le streetz" and he doesn't break fall, then RIP basic cognitive functions when his head hits the concrete.

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>>42122054
>>42122054
Muay thai to beat punk ass holes up.
Learn a grapple like jijitsu with a strike art BUT LEARN THE FUCKING STRIKE ART FIRST.


ITS GONNA BE A REAL EYE OPENER WHEN YOU TRY TO GRAPPLE A GUY IN MUAY THAI STANCE AFTER HE SLAMS HIS KNEE IN YOUR NOSE.

Kickboxing, muay thai boxing or judo, these condition you for an actual exchange of fists. Lesarn a strike art if you wanna fight well


Protip: most normies dont even know how to throw a punch so its pretty easy to win generally any fights with at least 5 days a month training, that is until you run into another fighter.

if you know how to properly throw all the basic punches and how to evade/take a hit, you are primed to kick 99% of peoples asses.
if some drunk asshole wants to pick a fight, it is pretty unlikely they are a serious martial artist.

Unironically Judo or similiar.
All the people recommending Muay Thai are retards.
You are not gonna elbow someone in the kisser and get away with that. Best case scenario, you are getting sued for assault (no matter who started it, if a judge sees that broken face, you are fucked) worst case scenario you are going away for manslaughter.

what kind of martial arts suits for a person whose hand is broken due to car accident? as you all know a broken bone might not be as strong as it used to be once it completely heal, so my question is how can i be strong as fuck again?

>>42136386
>throw Tyrone on mat
>he alright
>throw Tyrone on concrete
>he dead

>>42140058
but in the modern world of concrete

judo is one move murder

>>42140590
>throw Tyrone on Jamal
>?

>>42127534
literally who?

I hate this speculation shit. Was drinking with my cousin and he was so convinced that McGregor is gonna win, but we literally have no way of knowing how a top-tier MMA fighter and a top-tier defensive boxer would match up. This has never been done before, so it's useless to try and speculate, unless you're trying to make some money off of this fight.

>>42122054
Strong case against any martial art with ground work :

In a street fight the only rule is that you don't know what can happen. So the last thing you want is to get on the ground with another guy. If you start making shit up like a one on one streetfight then you're a fucking retard because in a one on one situation you can just run.

So when do street fights happen? They either happen when people are drunk, when people are getting mugged or when people are retarded. I'd say that covers most of the streetfights you'll ever see. Assuming you're not retarded and don't pick up fights for shit and giggles, that leaves us with you getting mugged or you being drunk. I won't assume that you'd fight someone drunk while you're sober because that'd mean that you are retarded since you could just run away.

So when you are getting mugged you don't really wanna get on the ground with the guy mugging you because it'd be stupid to try and mug someone without at least carrying a knife or having some mates behind ready to help you if things go wrong. Getting on the ground in this situation is pretty stupid, you'll get stabbed or get your face stomped.

If you are drunk, unless you're an expert in judo or bjj, I don't think you'll manage to pull of any real technique against someone.

I'd advise boxing, kick-boxing or muay thai because punching someone in the mouth and then running is often the safest bet.

>>42140266
Iron fist

>>42140058
He asked the best art of real defence on the street

Muay thai is the best striking art there is, and its relatively safe to use on people outside the ring, people dont know how to deal with muay thai stance if they never seen it and good luck trying to tackle someone initiated in the art, very big mistake.

>>42122290
>won't work with thick boxing gloves
You know people punch harder with boxing gloves, right? They're there to protect your hand, not the other guy's face.

>>42122054
boxing
your not gonna through kick when fighting in a bar wearing jeans

>>42141035
Muay thai is superior to learn because you are taught to box as well. If you learn to box its for simply the sport because you could learn more through another art. No one should learn to box as self defence but it is definitely effective, if not better than most

>>42141214
boxing guys are way faster and hit much harder with fists than any mt praticioner.

this is very important in fights.

>>42141001
completely false lmao

>>42141528
YDKSAB senpai

>>42141539
nigger I box every day, I'd take a blow from a softened glove over a fighter's fist any day

>>42122054
Boxing imo. None of these wannabe tough guys know how to take a punch. I've had to bail out multiple DYEL friends that somehow caught the wrath of one of these overcompensating giga faggots and they all cower when they meet someone thats actually ready to throw down.

>>42141294
Breh i do both, you can be in boxing stance and and switch to mauy thai at any moment, takes a quick shuffle with your feet N your rsy to let kicks fly. The speed is learned over time. The reason boxers seem faster than muay thai fighters is because the muay thai guys have 8 points of contact (fists elbows knees and legs) to worry about and decide on an action while a boxer only needs to think of 2 (fists).

So when you see people boxing in muay thai, they have to decide if a jab with the leg will get them KO"d and if they go in for strikes in the combat zone they run the risk of a clinche fight. Of course all this is in the ring. On the street, as a muay thai SEASONED player, the only thing you should worry about is not hurting the other guy to badly or getting stabbed/shot

i've used MT in a street fight i didn't start.

in muay thai we practiced kicks 5x5, like just five round kicks all in a row basically in a pyramid scheme.

i did that to his ribs and he backed off lol.

i dont think kicking is a good idea, in hindsight i should have just thrown straights.

A gun.

>>42123922
You should watch some old mma fights where hits to the groin were allowed. They aren't a magical knockout point.

>>42142285
No you should always jab and pivot kick uninitiated people. The foot jab is almost invisible to someone who doesnt know it exists and your heavy shin kicks are scary. Thats the beauty of the art, those lethal kicks knees and elbows, you bring the pain, they tell you when they had enough

>>42123922
how can you go to the groin in full guard?

bjj is probably the absolute best thing if you can 100% guarantee it's a 1v1 fight which obviously most 'street fights' or 'self defence scenarios' won't be

>>42128247
That sounds pretty interesting. Those streetfights are more about organization, formation, morale, aggression and equipment, like ancient battles.

Reminds me of a greek philosopher who wrote that men train in the gymnasium all the time and think they are brave and good fighters if they can land a good upper-cut or wrestle in a 1vs1 when they never learned to stay disciplined in a formation with shield and spear while facing an enemy army that tries to annihilate them.

>>42122054
>Also how do you feel about the biggest sporting event of our life times?
if Inoki/Ali was anything to go by, it'll be shit (admittedly Inoki was severly handicapped in that fight)

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>playing by boxer rules
>limiting your options
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zjqYGQBCZw
for what purpose

I'd say Muay Thai for kicking and hitting, but for self defense. Probably BJJ cuz groundwork and wrestling for just overall control over the component.

>>42127754
That's why you train, dumbass.

>>42127754
I have yet to meet a nigger that can outrun a bullet
come to think of it, I've yet to meet a nigger

>>42122054
>Best martial art for realistic self defense?
Gun-fu. Or probably some meme answer if youre a eurocuck.

You need to be able to both strike and grapple, it's not an either or proposition. Bjj, Muay Thai, wrestling, boxing, take your pick just find quality gyms not mcdojos

Also a lot of people are dismissing bjj with the logic you don't want to go to the ground in a street fight etc etc, well guess what, in street fight you may not have a choice and if you do wind up there and don't know what you're doing you are well and truly fucked.

But if you do know how to grapple you can
a. Avoid the ground if you wish
B. Dominate the action once you get there
C. Get back to your feet asap if you wish

Oh and as much as I hate mayweather, he's gonna humiliate mcgregor

>>42126513
nobody should date black men lol

>>42122054
loaded gun.

Judo.
>If you live in western Europe where real self defense is illegal.

>>42122054

There is none. The best is experience. You can practice your judo flips or your roundhouse kicks all fucking day and then get your face stomped in by someones whose been actually fighting for years on the street.

Just fight nigger.

Doesn't matter, if you're too small or outnumbered you're gonna lose. Mayweather and McGregor would be killed by any 6'1+ guy. Just buy a gun.

>>42145231
You're a retard that's never sparred with someone in training, all you faggots say this same shit "lol wuddent matter on the streets cuz I could hit them in the balls and eyes" fight even an amateur MMA fighter sober and you will not even land a punch I guarantee it

>>42145231
>t. never trained in anything in their life

>>42138338

I'm talking about boxing and wrestling

not pankration

fuck off

>>42122054
Escrima

>>42122290
>Army combatives

Tim Kennedy got his ass whooped by kelvin.

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>Ctrl+F "Pipebomb"
>no results

>>42140726
he gay

>>42122054
Being a feminist.

>>42145231
Retard detected. How fat are you sir?

>>42145310
>fight even an amateur MMA fighter sober and you will not even land a punch I guarantee it
Why even try to land a punch when you can just stab the motherfucker? Unless you're really drunk it's just dumb to pick up a fight against someone without having a trick up your sleeve.

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>>42122178
While you were partying I studied the krav....

>>42141708
all scientific studies have shown that heavier glove = more force

the gloves literally just protect your hand. I've been training for years and it surprised me too, but its fucking science mate.

>>42149515
Police, where I live at least, don't care about a dude punching another dude in the face. They do give a fuck about attempted murder.

>>42130552
>Ninjutsu

Isn't it literally a meme?

>>42151205
It was more a set of covert/guerilla tactics than a fighting style

>>42149974
>all scientific studies have shown that heavier glove = more force
And in the 80s, we thought fat was bad.

Science is only good for those who cannot experience it first hand. Gloves make the punch weaker. End of story.

>>42149974
>all scientific studies have shown that heavier glove = more force
Hence amateur boxers have more KOs than the pros.

Oh wait, you're retarded.

>>42149974
Heavier glove = more force due to the fact that a heavier glove carries more momentum, but a heavier glove also absorbs the shock because it has more material, meaning you can survive getting hit by a mattress going twice the speed of a rock that would knock you out.

I'm 6'4'' 220 lean, pick a martial art/martial sport for me

>>42126155
What about sumo wrestling? If he grabs you and falls on you, you're dead.