is psmf a meme

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>>42110521
No

>>42110626
>Calories in, calories out
That's true in terms of mass but if op is considering a PSMF he's clearly concerned about body composition. You could eat at maintenance gain fat, and lose muscle, but who would want to do that?

>>42110521
The science seems solid. I've never tried it so I can't say personally.

Just started Lyle McDonald's rapid fat loss handbook psmf diet. I lost 3.5kg in the first week and haven't lost any strength. Been pretty effective so far but the hunger and carb craving is driving me crazy.

>>42111121
Did you actually try something like SS during your PSMF or are you making shit up?

>>42111694
I've been lifting for a couple years now but want to cut cos I'm a fat fuck.

I tried it.
went from 19.6 to 15.7 percent bodyfat in 3 weeks with DEXA scans to prove it. lost a fuckload of muscle too. obviously.

>>42112832

how much does a DEXA scan cost in the USA

also how many lbs of muscle loss are we talking, here

>>42112871
cost me about 150 dollarydoos.

lost about a total of around 5-7lbs muscle

>>42112883

so how many pounds of fat did you lose? 7 lbs of muscle loss seems insanely high for three weeks.

>>42112901
lost about 17 pounds of fat.

>>42110521
honestly it's probably a worse option than a water fast with no working out >>42112883

>>42112883
You lost water weight

Why do PSMFwhen you can just fast?

>>42112932
my bf percent is right there.

>>42112932
Honestly are you fucking retarded? Do you even know what a psmf is?

It IS a fucking fast, but one where you eat ~200g of protein a day in order to specifically preserve muscle mass. It would be vastly superior to a water fast.

7/10 because you got me to respond.

>>42112997
>it is a fast
>doesn't actually involve fasting
hmm...

Also I'm pretty sure actual water fasting is superior for preserving muscle mass (provided you avoid working out for the duration)

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>>42113014

PROTEIN SPARING. as in, other than protein, it is a fast.

and could you please explain your reasoning as to why you are "pretty sure" that eating no protein at all would be more muscle sparing than eating 1g per lb of LBM a day? feel free to cite any sources that led you to come to this conclusion.

>>42113030
You avoid all the anti-catabolic effects of prolonged fasting (such as greatly increased growth hormone production) by eating, and also induce catabolism by working out while consuming insufficient calories and having insufficient glucose stores causing enormous stress on your system.

>>42113050
you don't workout out while on PSMF, you lift twice a week with super low volume

>>42110521
Do you think Arnold did psmf. Stop overthinking

>>42113014
Retard.

>>42112912
No you didn't lose 17lbs of fat and 7 lbs of muscle, 17lbs of fat alone would mean you were on around 2800 calorie deficit. If you were on that deficit you were doing cardio, which is not advised.

>>42114273
Arnold lifted for years and was never a fatty, OP is probably a fatty looking to speed up the process.

>>42114731
I was doing 3km walks 4 days a week and lifng full body twice a week