How many of you completely abstain from alcohol and drugs?

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>tfw autist with no friends through entire youth
>tfw never got drunk
>tfw beer tastes disgusting since I never used to drink it
two sided feeling desu. on one hand, im not a degenerate so that nice, but on the other... I wonder what it's like to get drunk with your highschool friends at some shitty teenagers party and make out with some fat chick at the end of the night. I missed out on a lot of stuff as a teenager

>>42093873
Everybody uses something to feel better. Moderation is the key.

>>42093873
Me!

>>42094088
>Everybody uses something to feel better.
Not true.

>>42094088
>this is what degenerates actually believe

>>42094074

How are you not a degenerae?

>>42094117
Caffeine, sugar, aspirin, weed, I guarantee you're addicted to something.

I don't drink, do drugs, or smoke.

I'm also a very lonely man.

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>>42093873
alcohol and tobacco are for silly sausages. DMT is for cool dudes.

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>>42094193
Working out, writing, etc. Doesn't have to be a "drug"

I drink a lot since I am in the service industry.

I am going to the military in September. I realize there is a lot of drinking in this environment as well but I'd like to make a career out of it so I'm looking to hang with those who don't drink or if they drink, they drink wine or something bougie.

I've got a LOT of knowledge of fine wine and bourbon because of my service knowledge and it feels shitty to just... waste.

I abstain from alcohol but I smoke marijuana daily, and dabble with LSD, psilocybin and other psychoactive compounds on occasion.

Gotta be open minded bros.

>>42094240

I just got offered to do DMT for the first time this week. I abstain from alcohol and tobacco.

I've taken your banepost as a sign from the universe that i should partake.

what should I expect?

>>42094088
filthy degenerate

>>42094074
Oh it's great anon, are you in college? There still might be time left.

>>42094117
>ive never used cough syrup make me feel better when i had a cold
>ive never been to the hospital and been treated with drugs to combat infections/bacteria that could cause serious adverse health consequences
>ive never used neosporin to help small wounds heal when i was younger
>ive never taken aspirin or drank coffee to help with headaches

it is true. Face it. Everybody on this Earth HAVE to use drugs to survive.

>>42093873
The last few times I went out I actually managed to only drink in moderation.
I'm also pretty sure beer is one of the reasons I'm not really that lean.
But honestly, that's the price I pay for not being an autistic shut-in.
I know it's bad, but I don't really see any alternatives.
I don't know how to sort this out.

>>42094290
Short but wild ride. I honestly don't recommend it as a beginners psychedelic, but free is free and if you're doing it in an environment where you feel comfortable then go for it.

For the first 17 years of my life I was the most straight edge kid you'd ever meet.

Then through my late teens and up until I was 30 I became addicted to cigs and started drinking alcohol which progressed to the point of drinking 8 shots of whiskey every night and smoking half a pack of day. In my late 20 I also had a heavy bar phase where I used some re recreational drugs too.

I've been back to being straight edge for the past 4-5 years. Can't say I'll never get wasted again but life is much better straight edge.

>>42094299
I know you're baiting, but just for anyone reading this that actually believe this, you don't HAVE to take these to survive, it's a choice.

>>42094339

oh I'm not a beginner. I've done shrooms and acid several times.

>>42094339
M A C H I N E
E L V E S

>>42094269
I was using chemical substances but yes, training, hobbies, sex, etc. can all be abused. Look at all the guys trying nofap or noporn just so they can get something accomplished besides orgasming.

the ocasional drinking with the lads is one of the most positive things i do for my mental health. i dont binge tho (maybe once a year), just drink until im feeling that nice buzz that makes you more open and happy to talk, and then slowly sip beer until it time to go home.

i wish i could quit weed soon, but im so bad at falling asleep...

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>>42093873
I have three drinks(two beers and a whiskey) or less every other week. I quit smoking in December.

Stopped taking edibles in January(I live in CO). That was fucking rough. I took so much(5 100mg edibles every other day) every week, and moved to just consuming hash oil straight up(gram and a half a week). I was a fucking zombie. It took me 4 months to piss clean(have a bunch of those cheap card size piss tests).

The worst part was having emotions again after nothing for 8 months. Movies would make me cry. Songs would make me tear up. It was like being on the rag for months(I assume).

Don't do concentrates or edibles, kids. Just smoke or vape now and then. Don't be like me.

And now for Cincinnati's own, Amish Anal Acrobats!

>>42094346
>implying you can live without antibiotics

Your immune system can't fight everything on its own you dunce.

>>42093873
I abstain from all drugs and alcohol with exception of an occasional toke of weed before I watch a movie in bed...

I've done all drugs and alcohol and it's better this way.

>>42093873
i cant stand alcohol because I was getting drunk at 7yo and had bad experiences

>>42093873
>How many of you completely abstain from alcohol and drugs?
Fuck no, I love that shit. Still feel like garbage from a techno festival past Saturday but every 2/3 months won't kill you or destroy your gains.

>adulterating your brain chemistry - that which is responsible for your entire consciousness and perception of the world

imo this existence is bizarre and confusing enough without throwing psychedelics into the mix. Not to mention things like HPPD, which, to me, suggest that there's at least SOME subtle lingering effect on the way your brain works from substances like LSD (and that to me is slightly scary).

I mean, I guess you could say every experience we have and every substance we ingest changes our consciousness/perception in some small way anyway, but I'm weary of drugs because they seem to act so profoundly and directly.

Years ago I realized I drink only to fit in. Now I use my alleged abstinence to explain to newly met people why I don't go to parties. I drink occasionally, but it's mostly family gathering or wine when dining at restaurant.

>>42094088
At high level in life you dont resonate even with caffeine, sugar or junkfood habits, because you see them as they are. Just addictions that cant never even compare to the taste of winning.

Start by getting into The power of now and Letting Go the pathway To surrender

>>42093873
Don't do "illegal" drugs any more. It was just weed, and I got sick of giving money to criminals to something that should be legalized, and will be soon enough anyway. Governments are paying more and more attention to Colorado's booming economy and surprise surprise, lower underage smoking rates.

Legal highs always looked stupid as fuck to me and you might as well be huffing jenkem at that point.

Yes I drink. Alcohol is so fucking good, so fucking varied and there's a drink for all occasions. Partial to the g&t but it's hard to get them served in a glass not for women these days since its popularity exploded out of nowhere.

>>42094382
Fuck I always miss that point. Usually because it goes beer after beer after beer, round after round, and the other guys don't give a shit, they just want to get wasted. (And they're all 15-20 kg heavier than me). I usually hit a point where I say "no way, no more", and they keep going. But by that point it's too late. It would be the ideal time to go home, but I'm so drunk that I don't think much at all and just stand around until either everyone goes or I'm sobered up and realize that I'm just wasting away for no reason.

Sometimes I manage to drink at a slower pace and stop/pause at a good point, but most of the time I don't.

>>42093873
Used to smoke weed frequently but I realised it makes you a faggot with no drive
Only alcohol and ciggies for now, still curious about cocaine though

>>42094631
>Used to smoke weed frequently but I realised it makes you a faggot with no drive
This is not true, it's your own choice to be an unproductive faggot while high

>>42094088
Good post, people need a vice

>>42093873
By not putting them in your body

>>42094588
So you're addicted to "winning". Great. Don't tell me what to do. I'm gonna drink and roid and take advantage of modern medicine like a normal person.

I've only drank twice in the past two years (both on New Years). Haven't done any drugs since about 2013. To be fair, I'd smoke weed but I haven't had luck finding any in my little town and I don't know anyone here to get any.

>never drink at home, only drink when going out in the evening
>I never go out because no friends
It's a problem that solves itself really

>>42093873
>trusting a man who doesn't trust himself with one drink

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>>42093873
alcohol yes...drugs no....its festival season and I fucks with MDMA, Ex, and acid. Weed on occasion, but from concentrate only, don't burn the leaf.

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>>42093873
Not me.
After trying lots of psychedelics, stimulants, dissociatives and depressants, there are my few favorites that I always go back for a good time... of course, once a blue moon:
1. Benzodiazepines - if you thought you know what it means to be relaxed and feeling great, then you don't know shit. Clonazepam, alprazolam, diazepam (in high amounts, I did 100mg) and certain designer benzos such as clonazolam (LSD-tier microgram potency, fucking incredible).
2. Opioids - those need not to be introduced. Morphine is the queen, I haven't tried your American inventions such as hydrocodone. Pure feeling of immortality, if you're sick, you'll no longer be after taking some. Pain? No such thing. Very easy to get addicted to, if you only tried alcohol, cigs and cannabis in your life then stay away.
3. Psychedelics - probably my favorite category. Experiences that are impossible to describe and no movie has ever shown what really happens on substances such as LSD, 2C-x family, AL-LAD, ALD-52, etc. I have never before knew what it means to taste, physically touch and see sound.
4. Dissociatives - your body disappears and your self. What becomes of you? Well, your journey in the interstellar space is only limited by your imagination. Ketamine, MXE, DXM, 3-MeO-PCP, and so on.
5. Stimulants - my least favorite group, but methcathinone, EPH and certain designer compounds give an ecstatic euphoria, impossible to compare with anything else, except maybe winning a billion dollars. The best ones have you feel orgasms constantly all over your body, for hours.

Good times.

>>42094290
>about to do one of the strongest psychedelics in the world
>what should I expect?
You are such a fucking retard. Why don't you do a little research before doing dmt you dumb cumguzling nigger. You are in for a wild ride.

>>42093873
Nah man, I ain't a pussy. I smoke WEED

>>42095422
DUDE

>>42093873
i have some drinks once a week when meeting friends.
other than that, my biggest vice are cigs... really gotta quit those.

>>42094342
>re recreational drugs
that sounds good, where can i get those?

beer

Wish I could save it for just the occasions when I'm with my boys but I'm 25 and I'm not settled down with neither a good job nor good woman so I probably get fairly hammered once a week, sometimes less, sometimes more. Never to blackout but pretty sloppy. I'm not afraid of being reliant, just aging myself and doing long term damage. My good friend fucked up his liver at 24 from it. He's better now, but scary

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dont really drink or smoke but psychedelics are the shit and I immensely enjoy their occasional use

>>42094088
>to feel better
Nah senpai i smoke weed so i can eat enough food

Wines man once said that 'e road of excess takes you to the palace of wisdom' (if you don't die on the way there lol).
I used to drink much more but the hangovers and the money spent were not worth it. Save your money guys, better off building your assets and investing in yourself with training and learning.
Weed is fun though. But why are they making it so strong ? I don't enjoy that anymore.
Mushrooms are useful, a holiday from your ego. But as they say, 'when God answers the phone, you should hang up'.

I drink 2-4 pints a week. More if I'm on holiday. I'll 'go out' once every 12 weeks or something with the teammates but won't even get that fucked up.

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>>42093873
>never done drugs and never will
>drink beer only when hanging out with friends
>on rare ocassions something with more %

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>>42093873
I do but that is only because my family has a really bad history with alcohol and drugs.

I really wish to try drinking but I know I really shouldn't. I feel like an idiot when I have to turn down drinking with a girl because of this skeleton in my family's closet.

Any other anons with similar experience? Any tips on doing this?

>>42094430
So how did humanity even make it until they discovered penicillin in 1930?

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Only natty trenbolone for me

>>42095724
>not drinking 9 pints a night

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I don't drink, my father is an alcoholic and it's always been really terrible to deal with. I'm not really interested in other drugs either. I took a picture in the garage as a reminder to not wind up like this.

>>42096089
Looks like your dad knows how to party!

>>42093873
I'm /nodrugs/ /noalcohol/ /nocaffeine/ /fullynatty/

ex heroin user

on methadone now

coming off soon for those massive testosterone rebound gains

>>42094342

What do you do though when you need to lose yourself and get out of it all for a while?

I go a couple weeks pretty content but I just get frustrated at being conscious. It's like this build up. It grows and grows until I can't stand being so sober and then I have to go out and get shitfaced to reset.

It fucks me up every time but if I don't I get very very agitated and depressed.

>>42095758
>never done drugs

>drink alcohol , a pretty powerful drug

eckz dee

>>42094074

>friendless loser NEET shut-in
>not a degenerate

>>42094271

>wine

fucking gay

>>42093873
I'm already poor so I'd like to be sober when managing money

>>42096089

I could really fucking crush a half dozen tall boy buds right about now... Icey cold with a pack of smokes out in the garden watching the stars and listening to some good talk radio.

A friend to share it with would be even better... :(

>>42096130
It's the best thing in the world. The absolute fucking best, why the fuck would you want to give it up, right?
I'm an addict too, not to alcohol, something a bit worse. I'm still a work in progress with my psychologists.

>>42096123
wew lad, good luck with those methadone withdrawls homie.

>>42095767
scared to do drugs because of history of schizophrenia in family. Don't drink because it fucked up too many lives around me and I'm too pussy to let my will power decide how much, I fear the rabbit's hole

No alcohol*, cigarettes nor drugs here (gf is the same); I simply wasn't used to any of it growing up since my parents don't drink/smoke/take drugs either.

*well, unless you count dabbing my lips during Eucharist.

Was alchoholic, started opoids, quit drinking, then addicted to opoids. Quit last week, week of withdrawls, feeling better each day

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cigars, (tobacco) pipes, and dip are my staples but I'd do weed if I had stable connections to it. Craft beer when I can afford it.

>>42096143
no need to go into fucking semantics, you know what I mean

>>42096231
I did the same thing, It takes a while to get over the withdrawls bro. stick with it.

>>42096193

It's the only way I've found to get true relief. That 3rd pint when my mind stops whirring, my self-doubt leaves and me, the real me, comes out of hiding and I get to actually exist for a couple of hours before the drink takes hold and I get sloppy.

I end up spending a shit load of money. I end up physically wrecked for a few days if the hangover catches bad. Then I feel pretty average until it all builds up again.

I wish I could just chill with buddies a few times a week and get a buzz going but with me it's 'once you pop, you can't stop'.

>>42096284
Good looking out, we all gonna make it

>>42093873
Fucking kill me desu lads, I'm a shit drunk and it makes me think about my ex causing a mental breakdown when I get drunk. The thing is when I'm sober I hardly ever think of her, I don't know why it happens.

Not complaining though desu, aparently it's funny and it gets me invited to whatever shitty party is going on where I show up with friends, and hoover up any spirits before fucking off with whatever shit girl that tolerates me.

Don't drink lads, it's not worth it. We all forget most of the fun stuff that happens anyway because we get slaughtered, besides whenever an ugly girl is into someone, that becomes a way to relentlessly take the piss for a while.

Mushrooms are fun though, only tried them a few times but I'd do it again for sure.
Sorry for blogposting, just trying to console any anons who think they're missing out.

>>42094074
Just drink shots of hard liquor like most of us who drink to feel the alcohol do. Beer is a much higher caloric density and estrogen effect anyhow.

>>42096332

>just trying to console any anons who think they're missing out

I'm not missing out on getting drunk, just missing out with getting drunk with others.

>>42096286
For me it's a sex addiction, with some sadism in there and a lack of empathy.
Continuing to listen to my fantasies would eventually land me in a world of shit, rape and stuff.
It's not that bad though.

I miss that moderation. I know it's bad for me and I am trying to protect myself.
It does really suck, thinking I can't go back to the thing that makes me truly happy.

>>42095402
it lasts 5-10 minutes at most, for that reason it's preferable to take as a first timer than acid which will last 10-12 hours. It will take you to another planet and meet strange entities so be prepared

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>>42096231
good luck anon, we're rooting for ya

>>42096286
>third pint
LIGHTWEIGHT BABY

Drink once or twice a week usually, but end up drinking half a bottle of vodka when I do because of slavic heritage. Really hard to fit those calories into a cut though.

Also been getting really tempted to try psychedelics. Have a friend who is experienced and trustworthy that would be more than happy to share too. Don't have history of mental illness in my family so should be safe enough, whats the harm in trying it?

>>42096130

That's what an addiction is dumbass. Stop fucking drinking, it's a waste of time. I see a lot of you saying " oh but it's a release ", drinking doesn't solve any problems you retards, it just adds more problems too your life. I'm not even talking about the health problems (which will happen to you) but I'm talking about the problems that WILL come out of simply being drunk. Just fucking stop drinking, after a few months you will be over it and living life sober and not eternally hungover.

t. Pint+ of vodka per night for 2 years straight

>>42093873
I have a medical condition so I have to take fuckloads of drugs

Alcohol...I can go years without drinking anything then suddenly start getting trashed twice a week for three months

Weed and caffeine do nothing to me

>>42096392

liquor tastes like fucking crap tho

beer is ambrosia

>>42095825
>implying they did

I'm 6 months sober on saturday
3 months weed sober
Quit smoking cigs over a week ago

Guess I'm /straightedge/ now

>>42093873
Just don't ingest them lmao like why is this so hard

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>>42093873
I do, I don't like the idea of altering my mind.

and considering how short our lives are, I want to live through every moment, good and bad

I drink a glass of wine maybe every quarter. Coffee every morning. That's about it lads

>>42093873
"Lol I drink maybe once a month now. And I never do drugs. Just test, tren and modafinil...oh wait.

18 now, smoking weed almost every day since I was 16. Idk, I hope I haven't done any damage to my brain but I dont feel that different from periods where I won't smoke. I'm pretty intelligent anyway so a few IQ points gone won't hurt me too much.

>>42097174

Keep going lad.

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who else is /stoner/ here? Report here

Been smoking weed daily since 2014, with some occasional break (2 months max)

I've considering to leave it cold turkey but i had found weed to be very useful while im on my bulking phase and it also feels great to finish a hard session in the gym and then hit a few tokes

>feelsgoodman.gif

>never smoke or drink
>anon is such a LOSER LMAO
>be a recovering drug addict/ alcoholic
>wow anon, good for you , keep being strong! stay sober for life now!

>>42094335
Vodka and diet soda is about your only bet.
Or everclear.
Just make sure it's super high proof, inbetween drinks (make sure there is an inbetween) sip on some water.
If anyone asks just saying you are trying to stay lean or some shit, no one will care and you can keep your buzz.
Maybe just drink a beer a night and the rest liquor.

>>42097430
my thoughts exactly when I was your age
at one point, probably in your early 20's. it's gonna affect you one way or another
most likely loss of productivity and motivation for shit that's important, like college/work, gym, relationships or whatever
intensity of that really differs from person to person
not saying to quit right now, enjoy it while it lasts, be sure to spark that blunt boi 520 blaze it and all, but know when it's time to stop

>>42094518
>I'm weary of drugs because they seem to act so profoundly and directly.
Really what should be the only warning against psychs.
Psychs are very fun but the experience can easily be VERY profound.
This means you might think you have everything figured out, you might be a super happy person.
It could also fuck you up.

One piece of advice is to never do psychs unless you are sure and in a comfortable place.
It's always a gamble but with close friends and an open mind the bad shit is rare enough to go for it imo.

>>42097669

Currently trying to quit beer for a month, replaced with vodka and diet tonic so it's still nice and bitter. A lot of people seem to drop 10-20lbs real quick doing the same.

>>42097634
because people that have never tasted alcohol or weed are almost always antisocial losers retard

>>42098082
Or they don't need crutches like alcohol to be social or weed to feel good.

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>>42094278
>>42094443
>>42095422
>>42095654
>>42097620

Alcohol kills gains.
Tobacco is poison.
Weed is god-tier for DOMs and inflammation.

>>42093873
I drink a cup of coffee or two per day. Generally keep it under 60mg - 100mg. I used to do weed every week for about a year and it was enjoyable for a while but then I started getting paranoid and having torturous experiences of existential crises.

>>42093873
Only drink on weekends and smoke weed once or twice a month

>>42096000
>trips detected
and confirmed

>>42097620
>stoner
>saves the thumbnail

Shocker.

>>42093873
I make myself one cup of coffee no milk no sugar 30-45 minutes pre workout. Never taken drugs but I drink somewhat heavily on the rare occasion that I get together with a big group of friends.

I usually 420 every day, but I'm living with my parents for a few months so I can really only smoke every once in a while now. Other than having some fucking wild dreams the first week or so I didn't really notice any other withdrawal effects from quitting cold turkey for 2 weeks. I can't wait until I can smoke weed every day again though

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>>42094074
>tfw boisterous drunkard, druggie throughout entire youth
>tfw all friends were party-goers
>tfw sick of excess

Don't lose your way.

>>42094414
>The worst part was having emotions again after nothing for 8 months. Movies would make me cry. Songs would make me tear up. It was like being on the rag for months(I assume).

Fuck dude. I smoked like a fiend for two years every day and that's what happened to me. I quit cold turkey and it took months for me to feel any sort of emotion at all.

Needless to say, I enjoy movies a lot more now.

I abstain from alcohol and drugs. I went to the hospital twice in the past 6 months with drug related incidents. Finding a sober support group and hobbies is really important.

>>42096977
Liquor tastes way better than bread water unless you buy bottom shelf
Pick yourself up some Blanton's

>don't really drink or do drugs because i don't enjoy it that much
>never judge anyone for it

>people who do drink/drugs say that people who dont are really judgmental

>tell someone that i don't drink or do drugs
>try to get peer pressured by everyone into doing it
>get told that if you dont drink or do drugs you're an antisocial loser retard nerd faggot who should kill himself like this upstanding gent
>>42098082

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>>42094088
I want to use bullets, is just one bullet okay?

>>42094290
Ive had a hit once, everything started waving and felt really lightheaded for 2mins and it was over, guess I didn't "break through", didn't feel much. Id say try it, who the fuck knows, and dmt is hard to get so

>>42099608
Only if its a big one

>>42094352
I lifted with Zyzz in mt olympus when I hit dmt

>>42093873
Is Kratom a drug? I use it to fast because it controls my apetite while lifting my mood. It's like a warm blanket wrapped around me and everything just feel all right.

Lately I've started getting intense liver(?) pain after taking it, though. I don't know if the batch I have had pollutants or what but it gives me the most intense pain right below my rib cage. I wasn't sure if it was the Kratom, so I stopped taking it for a few days and didn't have the pain. I took Kratom again and the pain came back. My eyes were yellow too, I'm never ordering from the vendor I got it from again. I'm also gonna lay off it for a few months, I can cut without it.

Weed fucking sucks and is only good when mixed with other shit, I even had a med card because I fell for the meme, Wasted so much money and I didn't have a job, Was practically a fiend for it and has made me think I'm bipolar or manic depressive because I got bad hangovers and felt depressed when not high

Alchohol is fun if you have an outlet for your outwardness, Removes my anxiety filter so I just feel frustrated and sad if I drink alone which I used to do every day when I was 18 and drunk vodka in my basement alone every night

Did Speed (Ritalin) once alone. That is a LOT of fun, but you definitely need an outlet and it made me grind my teeth and I had this cup with a straw and I just sat fucking with the straw with my tongue for hours while hitting on girls who followed me on twitter

Did DXM once,Alone of course. doing it again tonight at 700mg
Kinda scared I guess but hyped as fuck

I plan on never drinking alcohol again, it's nothing but poison. As for other drugs, I'm still open to the idea that once in a while they can be enlightening by giving you a different perspective. But Im starting to see them as "dark angels" after wasting a couple years on weed. If they give you something, they also take something from you in greater amount.

"Exctasy, coke you say it's love it is poison" - Nas

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Weed almost daily. Shrooms / Acid when I'm lucky enough to score some. Meth every weekend. Self medicating with .5mg of Xanax due to work caused anxiety.

H-hold me lads.

>>42093873
I don't do them. Some of my family and friends are drugs addicts or alcoholics and it really turns me away from using either

>>42097344
>and considering how short our lives are, I want to live through every moment, good and bad

thats the reason i drink and smoke

>>42093873
Yeah. I've been avoiding situations where I can be pressured to drink, but I've only been at it for a month. I think if I do decide to drink, it'll be once a week with a 2 drink max.

>>42094414
>>42099346
lol wut
I always enjoyed movies more and felt way more emotional high. Only time i ever cry anymore is when im drunk and high listening to music. Its like people have entirely different experiences on dude weed

>>42100456
>nothing but poison
Mate, if you chug 2 bottle of vodka a day, of course it is. But a glass of wine on a Sunday
evening or a shot of whiskey among friends is hella fun and has certain benefits (other than intoxication).
Find the right booze and you'all love it. I'm a wine man personally. Makes me flirtatious and happy, but I never blackout and never get a hangover.

>>42093873

I used to drink a lot.

I used to have balckouts maybe every second weekend.

Id get anxiety like tightness across the chest if everyone else was drinking so slow at a dinner or something and i had to wait for a drink.

I didnt drink every night, but when i drank on weekends i litterally couldnt stop.

One day i apparently tried to rape a mates gf while blacked out, in like a room full of people.

So now i dont drink any more.

weed and opiates on "rainy work days"
alcohol, speed, coke, mdma on weekends

stopped with the psychedelics because I overdid them

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>>42096089
I have this in my family too lad, being an alcoholic is one of the most pathetic things a human can do. It is like giving yourself a disability.

My father and 2 uncles are both on death's door due to smoking and for one obesity. there is a decent chance 2/3 will not outlive their 84 year old father who was been smoking for 75 years.

>>42096000
>Natty
>tren

>>42093873
Drug addicts are the worst scum on Earth

>>42095825
with a 50 year life span.

>>42100470
>meth every weekend
you gotta be kidding?
rip

>>42100852
thank god most people from this thread only use drugs recreational, you faggot

Do drinking without being waster once a month really fuck up progression ?

>>42096218
>dabbing my lips
You mean taking a sip, right?

>>42093873
im not gonna lie, high school parties were some of the best times ive ever had.

>tfw keto
>tfw home for the summer and invited to parties with friends
>tfw can't drink with the lads

It's especially shitty because I want invites to parties in high school but now I'm invited to all these functions all of a sudden but I can't do anything there except maybe smoke some weed.
I think I'm gonna try LSD this year. Any anons have any tips or advice? I'm doing it to learn something about myself. That's the mindset I'm going in with. What should I do to maximize the spirit quest? Should I try shrooms first?

>>42093873
i drink maybe 8-10 times a year. never do drugs.

when i was younger i'd drink once a week or so.

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>>42099054
Same here. I'm 29 and all my old friends through college are still getting drunk 4 nights a week and wake cucking. Quiting drinking is the best thing I have done. I still smoke though.

>>42099054
>>42094074

This, it just gets so old waking up hungover and dead for an entire day, not to mention how expensive drugs can get, I'll always be a degenerate white-nigga kid that listens to rap but fuck taking all those L's in DUI's and getting busted n shit at parties. Got bigger shit to do

>>42101844
Wage*

>>42101043
They were, I feel the same. But it will never be the same, it will never be as fun, most of the people I knew then have gone separate ways
Some things are best left in the past- don't try and relive it it won't be the same

>>42100449
make sure you replenish your body with b12 afterwards or you're a silly man

>>42100470
>work caused anxiety
your drug intake is almost certainly the cause of any mental problem you have

>>42101956
Starting to come down
WTF is B12?
Guess I'm silly

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>>42094074

DELENDA EST

>>42102033
he means vitamin b12, you find it mostly in animal products in the modern day, helps protect against brain degradation among other things.

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>>42100842

>>42102191
What?

>on leave from work
>nothing to do all day
>weed withdrawals

>>42094342
Basically me. We're gonna make it.

>>42097877
Yeah, I would get almost 2000kcal worth of beer some weeks. And add to that some drunk midnight snacks and that's a whole fucking day's worth.

I never drink it's haram

>>42094074
same here but about to finish uni
you stop caring at age 21-22yo

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>>42096392
You do realize that the absolute majority of every alcoholic drink calories come from alcohol itself, right? You drink less vodka, but if you drink as much as you'd do beer in order to get to the same level of drunkenness, you'll consume about the same amount of kcal.
Admittingly, vodka gets you drunk faster than beer due to lesser volume and higher percentage, so the alcohol levels spike faster than they do with beer, so you should need less alcohol overall to get drunk (the longer your drinking session, the more alcohol gets metabolized meantime). This saves up a certain amount of calories, but still, drinking ain't the way to health.

I used to drink quite much during my uni days. No, not at parties to which I was going rarely, but alone at home. 4-6 beers every day during the evening, with maximum breaks of around a week, for 4 years. I stopped drinking abruptly, on the day I learned how morphine feels. Then I got addicted to opium for 9 months, quitting cold turkey (with resulting intense suffering of course), but I recovered after a week and learned a good life lesson from that.
I no longer drink and do opios, except REALLY occasionally. So, a few times per year. And I'm doing great - recovered physically, lost my beer belly that began to form, got a nice job. The only problem is, the last time I had a girlfriend was 2 years ago...

>>42096400
In "real-time" it does last short, but as you may know, in "psychedelic time" it feels like infinity.
Don't tell me you never done a lil too much of acid, shrooms or whatever other psychedelic and then experienced every minute to be as long as 10 minutes. The more blasted out you are, the longer every moment feels, until singularity.

>>42094352
You'll have a sick time dw

lmao why the fuck would i do that?

>>42100429
Kratom is indeed a drug - it contains compounds acting mainly as mu-opioid receptor agonists, so the same mode of action as morphine.
Liver toxicity is a severe and known side-effect of Kratom abuse.
If you have had yellow eyes (jaundice) then you NEED go to a doctor ASAP and do liver tests. No, it doesn't matter that it doesn't hurt when no longer taking it. You fucked up your liver and are just a step away from liver failure.
You need a special diet and ABSOLUTELY no drugs, including alcohol and steroids. No Kratom ever again either. What the fuck, man... just for how long were you taking it?

>>42095330
Been addicted to diazepam, amphetamine, ketamine and weed at various points over the last few years. Now I try and abstain from everything except psychs and the occasional MD or K sesh. Basically the legal and seemingly softer drugs can often fuck you the hardest.

>>42096231
Good luck bro, we'll all make it
>Captcha is recover

>>42098082
I think it also the fact the people who are scared of drugs usually tend to be close-minded DARE cucks

How did the meme that tequilla is harsh get started. I find that compared to other types of liquor its easier to take shots of tequilla. It even tastes fine when a little warm.

>>42100470
Sorry bro been on the weed/stim life. It's definitely the cause of your anxiety, and the bars don't help in the long run either.

>>42100720
Story of how you overdid psychs?

>>42101144
Don't try and force a profound experience on acid, sometimes all it gives you is a fun time and that's okay too. You should do it with someone you're super comfortable with and somewhere you won't be disturbed for roughly 12 hours lol. My main advice is just go into with an open mind and don't fight the trip :)

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Anyone here microdose LSD?

I've been struggling with weed addiction, depression and anxiety recently but everytime I microdose it feels like I can clear the fog away in my brain and I feel like I can fucking do anything. Only thing is this mindset only seems to last me 2-3 days which I assume is the afterglow, after which I always end up reverting back to shitty habits and mood. I don't think it's sustainable to microdose regularly, I already feel like I'm losing the magic of acid. Anyone know what do?

>>42100920
Sadly I'm not. I'll insulffate a couple 3-4 lines througout Friday and Saturday. Mostly to game and post on forums I frequent or to to a tedious task around the house I don't have the will power to whilst sober.

>>42104080
>Regular LSD use
>Struggle with anxiety, depression
What do you think idiot?

>>42093873
I am drugs

Im high now

>>42100429
>>42103782
This, and tell the doctor you've been taking multiple opioids so kratom doesn't get banned due to people not knowing how to cycle and dose it.
Some army vet's rely on this shit.

>>42104141
Didn't ask for uninformed retards to reply.
Had depression for like 6 months, only dropped acid again last week after a year
>Yeah must be the LSD bro

>>42104626
Wee wee druggie, microdosing LSD fucks up your brain majestically long term. Enjoy being a foggy brainlet for a long time bud.

>B-but muh afterglow and good mood
Learn to meditate fag

>>42093873
Me. 9 months sober. Nearly died from alcohol withdrawal when I quit. Now Im 3 months into lifting and im running a half marathon next year. Never going back.

>>42100470
Meth? It's very neurotoxic mate, there's plenty of stims that aren't half as bad. Not to mention, it's better not to do them.
Self-medicating with benzos, especially one with a short half-life like Xanax is going to fuck you up royally. At this point, you may have anxiety attacks every time the drug's concentration falls.
From what I see, your anxiety is caused, or at the very least exacerbated, by weed, stims and benzo abuse.

Benzodiazepine withdrawal can be life-threatening, due to seizures. You need to drop all of that shit except benzos. Change Xanax to Valium and then taper off gradually. I was addicted to opioids, then to benzodiazepines and I know how bad withdrawals are, so you better stop now. You can get antidepressants such as trazodone prescribed to you - it has both a strong benzo-tier anxiolytic effect and helps to sleep. It's your best bet to recuperate after this shitty cocktail.