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9 min mile. I usually run for an hour 6 miles.

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I'm a beginner looking to run 6 miles at a 9 min pace

I weigh 230 @ 6'2" and I'm cut enough to see abs without flexing. Is this a good starting program?

Monday:

2 mile run (easy effort, conversational pace)

Tuesday:

OFF running day, other workouts, strength etc

(good day to ride 60 - 90 minutes)

Wednesday:

Hill Repeats: start with 10:00 easy jog as warm up

then 7 x 50m hill sprint, walk down

Thursday:

OFF running day, other workouts, strength etc

(good day to ride 60 - 90 minutes)

Friday:

Track: start with 10:00 easy jog as warm up

2 miles (8 laps) sprint straights, walk curves

Saturday:

OFF running day, other workouts, strength etc

(good day to ride 60 - 90 minutes)

Sunday:

4 mile run (easy effort, conversational pace)

Does anyone else get a problem with teeth hurting when they run?
>have good shoes
>run on grass where I can
>brush teeth twice daily
>dentist says teeth are fine

>>42087965

I get that issue if I'm very congested - the sinus pressure puts a lot of stress on the gums, then running makes my teeth hurt quite a bit

>>42087973
Feels bad man. I find it helps if I brush my teeth right before I run. But I also blow my nose after I brush my teeth so maybe it's a sinus thing like you say

>>42087949
If your goal is 6 miles at 9 minute pace, I would cut back on the sprints and focus more on distance. you want to be building slow twitch muscles. Start by trying to get the distance, and maybe mix in some fartleks. Once you can do the distance, start pushing the pace to where you're out of your comfort zone, but are still able to maintain it. 2 days off per week looks about right though.

>>42087965
I've heard of people having this problem because of the air passing by their teeth so much while they're breathing through their mouth. does it happen with other cardio stuff too?

Once I reach my ideal weight can I just run and do light cardio to get leaner, or do I have to reduce my caloric intake?

>>42088081
I get gassed out quickly(probably because I'm 230) and often can't maintain focus for the whole hour. Running is usually extremely boring and im often unmotivated, is there anything I can do to improve stamina or motivation? Maybe extra runs in the morning of my training days?

>>42088102
Only running.
I do get extremely nauseous while I swim though.
All other sports are fine. I play squash and volleyball regularly

>>42088131
I usually make a play list and don't stop running until the playlist is over. Kinda helps "just one more song"
"just one more verse"

>>42086575
Don't have a mile time but my half mile was 3:04, is this okay?

I strained a muscle training on Weds and I had to miss all my runs since then. I normally do about 15 miles a week and this week I am at 6 miles.

I feel like a lazy slob for having 4 rest days in a row. Going to do an easy 3 miles tomorrow morning to get back in to the swing of things and start my week off right.

Fastest mile is 7:04. Average mile is 9:10.

>>42088213
Tbh if you really push yourself and you're only doing a short run you could get half mile time to 2.00 or 2.30.
If you're running long distance though 6.00 mile is v respectable

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>>42088131
find somewhere interesting to run if you can. makes life way better. pic related was earlier this week for me.

anyway, double days are a good, common way to up milage if you can fit in the time, and it'll help with endurance. It's not going to give you all the same benefits in the end, but it's definitely still helpful. You could also try cycling to increase endurance, seeing as you can typically go to more interesting places that way.

The best way I've found though is to get a running buddy. getting out the door when I'm on my own is a pain in the ass, and running with someone means you can talk and help motivate each other on shitty days.

>>42086575
I'm 5'11"
Haven't ran since highschool.
Managed a 6.30 mile on my first run in 3 years. My job involves walking swiftly for 10-12 hours a day though.

>>42086575
at my uni's running trail my usual run is 4.5 miles and the fastest i've ever done it is a little over 32 mins

I got my heart rate down to 47bpm last winter is that good

>>42088134
are you continuously breathing through your mouth with squash and volleyball though?

>>42088228
I always get that feeling when I take off days for nagging injuries. I usually end up doing lots of core, rolling, and stretching, which is annoying enough that I stop feeling bad about it

>>42088274
I like the random addition of your height.
good job anon.

>>42088105
I'm a pretty serious runner, don't limit my calories, and am below my ideal weight, so I guess so

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>>42086575
I left the couch about a year ago and finally got my mile down to just under 5 minutes today. Took a shitload of work to get here though.

>>42088292
47 bpm is pretty good. for reference, I think most adults have a resting heart rate of like 70-80, and most of my team mates are low to mid 30s (uni team)

>>42087949
I just run. I got my 5 miles down to under 35 minutes recently by just running 5 miles 2 times a week and 1.5 miles 2 times a week.

>>42088358
what did you take away from your training?

Like what would you tell yourself as a total noob to running to do?

I wish I could run as fast as you anon, but I cant seem to break 9min/mile easy runs, im not fat at all either

>>42088513
I mean on top of all the generic advice (sleep hygiene, good diet ect) running is really just about going for it. Make sure you have good discipline both in your schedule and in actually running.

You've probably heard this all before but warm up properly, stretch 7 days a week and use a foam roller on your quads, calves and dem der IB bands. Also don't neglect leg strength.

>>42088596
>Make sure you have good discipline both in your schedule and in actually running.
Gawd, I would say this is my biggest problem. I try to run 2-3 times a week, recently that has been once a week but I do swim 4X (MTWTh) and lift EoD (SL).
>Also don't neglect leg strength.
What workouts in the gym do you recommend I do for legs and running gains?

>>42088932
To state the obvious if you don't run you won't get better.
As far as strength is concerned just squats and cleans man. I run 40m, 400m 1.5 miles and 8kms so there may be some benefits from those as well.

i decided to go serious with runing so i did 26 miles in last week , but still not pacing where i want to sit, i want to do 4:40 km average to sit at 1:40 or lower half mar till september

Any tips for keeping breathing down? I seem to always start breathing heavily and quickly after a mile and it continues for the whole run. I'm 5'9" and 150lbs or so. I only run 1-3 times a week for 3-5 miles each time I go.

Does anyone have experience with running barefoot on the beach?
Did it fuck with your ankles ?
Does your feet hurt?

>>42089619
I'm a minimalist runner
6'2'' 90kg with a 90 minute half marathon time. Running barefoot/minimalist changed running for me, I never get injured anymore. The key is to build SLOWLY and use proper running form, but after a few months running barefoot your joints become steel

Threadly reminder
https://www.strava.com/clubs/fitizens

I went running yesterday and now both of my knees hurt. What do?

>>42090412
If you're not used to running, its better to start with c25k.
But for now just don't go running until they stop hurting. Also, watch a few form videos and see if you're doing anything wrong. From what i've seen, the most common cause is usually overstriding.

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>wake up at 11
>decide to go for a "morning" run
>bpm through the roof and pace slow ass fuck

where my other idiots at

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>>42088131
>>42088131

I use "zombies,run!" its basiclya audio book that is made up out of small clips(6-7 for most missions more for the races and the later seas ons tend to have more clips) that interupt your playist based on the time or miles ran there is now narroter the characters all talk directly to you either tru a headseat from mission control or as if they where running with you every story is about YOU having to run somwhere fulfilling your duty as runner 5 for a small comunity of surviors during the zombie apocolypse.

Its amazing how real this shit can feel when your running.

What kinda clothes should I run in. The mornings here are about 14*C so if I start in shorts and t it's a bit chilly but any more and I end up getting too hot

>>42090814
don't worry if its chilly you will warm up very fast once you start to run.

I'm starting to get a cold. Congested nose and a little achey/tired. Should I still run?

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>had to wait until today to call plumber because fuck paying them at a sunday rate
>tfw can't run cause can't shower

hold me

Typically under 7, depends on the day.
I prefer running barefoot when I can or wearing very light shoes while running but recently my girlfriends doggo tore up my runners, any suggestions on what to get next?

>>42090968
Shitty excuse Tbh anon.

Stand in shower with bucket of hot water, wash yourself with a sponge, when finished rinse with fresh bucket or bottle of water.

Don't fucking tell me you can't get a bottle of water.

>>42090968
If your sink works you can just gather water in a bucket and hop in the shower and wash yourself with that.

Not at excuse.

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>>42090988
The problem is the water won't drain, not that it won't come out of the shower head

I get a weird klicking in my head when I jog and it feels like my brain isn't properly mounted inside my head
Is that normal? Seems to only happen when it's colder outside though

>>42091000
Stand in front of sink, wet body, lather body in soap, wash soap off with water, dry body with towel.

>>42090814

I wear just enough to be a bit cold when warming up but warm during the run.

>>42091000
My trips have motivated me. Gonna get my room mate to blast me with the garden hose after

>>42091033
Ayy that's the spirit

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>>42091033
Good good

New to running and have been don't jogging for a week. I haven't experienced any DOMS though. Is this all right or should I increase the intensity?

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Fuck my life
>Racing 21k
>On pace for sexy PR
>Take wrong turn
>Cut about 800m
>Fake PR of more than 7min
>tfw would have PR'd anyways

I don't know how I should feel.

Got a PB at the Southend HM yesterday. I was a bit annoyed because I wanted sub 1:28 and got 1:28:06 but it was roasting and I still knocked over a minute off my time so it's all good. My dream is to one day get a sub 1:20 and I'm now edging in the right direction.

>>42091087
You should have run an extra 800m right after and added that on to your time.

>Been lifting for a year making gains
>havent ran in 7 years
>fucking 24 min 2 mile roflmao

This is what i get for neglecting cardio. If i lift Mon/Tues Thurs/Fri is running only once a week on Saturdays sufficient for cardio? My goal is to be able to run a 5k at a reasonable time for general health/wellness reasons and the athleticism. I'd do Sundays as well but I dont think i'd be able to do sat sun back to back.. also wednesday is perfect rest day for me due to life schedule. Thoughts?

>>42090582
here

>>42091268
one of the great things is that cardio is so easy to progress so all those years of neglect aren't that bad

>>42091268
I dont think you'll get enough cardio gains running once a week. I'd suggest having a very easy run on wednesdays anyways. nothing strenuous

>>42090735
jesus christ didnt realise gimmicky shit like this actually exists. Just run, you know.

>>42091130
Won't change the official time though

I hit 13.5 on the Beep Test/MSFT/Pacer test??

I did it bros, I went from a 2.9 to a 13.5

>>42087965
You most likely tense up your jaw etc, probably through your neck and shoulders to running fucked up with your hands.

Hurt my knee somehow yesterday. I was running on a trail I've done at least 100 times. Slow pace that I can easily handle any day of the week. Only thing I can think of that might've caused it is my shoes. They have probably 400 miles on them but they still felt fine and the fight was perfect.

>Is it possible that worn out shoes can cause knee pain?

I've never experienced this with any other older shoes but I've also put the most miles on these ones.

>>42091492
Yes, old shoes get worn out and affect your step.

However there are 1000 other reasons as why you might have hurt your knees.

Just rest until you run again.

>>42091349
you seem upset about a fun little twist on on running aps

How do you monitor your cadence? I feel like I take too few steps compared to the recommended 180 spm, but counting every second step while using a timer during running seems too awkward. I guess I could put some 180 bpm hardcore on my mp3 player and run to the beat lol.

>>42088273
Looks like a great way to break your ankle.

>>42089533
Start getting your breathing ready before you run. A few minute before you head out, inhale all the way, as much as you can, and push all of the air out of your lungs. Do this a few times, and then see if you can breathe around 6 breaths per minute by breathing very deeply and exhaling entirely.

Your lungs are a huge muscle inside of you that will be worked pretty hard from you run. If you've been sitting all day or breathing fairly shallow from lack of exertion your lungs need to warm up before your run also.

>>42091551
try a metronome, that music idea isnt too bad either

>>42090412
Check your form and your shoes.

Your shoes are most likely shit. Things to look at while running shoe shopping:
>arch support (do you need it)
>Stabilization (Do you need it)
>Wide shoes (do you have wide feet)
>Elevated heel
>Do you naturally roll your foot inward or outward

If you have a running store near you go to them and ask them to fit your for a pair of shoes.

>>42090814
http://www.runnersworld.com/what-to-wear

>>42090951
Do you feel too shitty to run? Apparently running can raise your immune system so it might be able to help you get better but if you're feeling really shitty and it'll just make you miserable don't go.

>>42091022
Go to a chiropractor. Your spine is probably a little misaligned.

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>best time is around 12:30 2 mile
>get into serious car crash
>car stabs me in the knee
>have to wear a brace and can't bend my knee for a week
>even when my puncture wound heals my knee hurts when I bend it
>end up not doing any cardio or any kind of leg exercise, nevermind regular exercise
>first try running again a month or two after
>really difficult run that I used to be able to do
>lungs start throbbing and have excruciating pain
>have to walk the rest
>try running again a month later
>do 100m sprints no biggie
>first few times I'm fine
>my lungs start to throb again and I can't catch my breath
>my vision goes blurry, ears ring, and everything goes bright

I want to die

Best bloggers and vloggers to follow for running?

>>42091310
>>42091346
Cool thanks i'll do a light run on wednesdays and maybe just do some walking on sundays

Is it better to run in intervals or just run until you cant run anymore.

I'm /unfit/ and running more than 1km is pretty difficult. Not that /fat/ though. Not sure what is best to stsrt off with and build running strength fast.

>>42091695
I'm so sorry, I would honestly not know what to do, I got a shoulder injury during high school from my coach that threw me off for a bit nothing bad but couldn't do pull ups flies ohps sku crushers etc it drove me crazy if something like that happened I would probably just kill myself man

>>42091909
That doesn't make me feel better at all :(

>>42091695
so I don't understand, is that lung thing because of accident or just because you're really really out of shape ?

>>42091606
Thanks for the metronome idea, I wouldn't have thought of that.

>>42091515
I like no nonsense stuff, that is all. Dont need to make pretend I'm escaping zombies to keep fit

>>42090735
The zombie chases bumped to max really add some nice intervals to runs, although they fuck up my average pace. Suppose it'll be beneficial on the long run.

It's 100 degrees outside. I have to be able to run 2 miles fast as fuck and I'm lazy. I actually have a pretty decent aerobic base.
Will focusing on 60/120s improve my 2 mile?
That is 60 seconds all out sprint 120 seconds walk.

I also incorporate a 3 mile jog with hill sprints in the middle usually twice a week

Gym days I do hiit on the stair master

Good enough if I don't care about running a marathon?

>>42087792
You mean you run 6 miles at a 9 min pace. Your mile time is if you do just one mile.

>>42091964
Probably (hopefully) because I'm really really out of shape

>>42092255
>I have to be able to run 2 miles fast as fuck and I'm lazy
passing the apft does not require you to be fast you fat fucking faggot. i fucking hate softbody lazy fucking joes like you so god damn much.

>i have to run 2 miles under 16 minutes it's so hard
fucking kill yourself

>>42092283
My guess is he wants to max it(sub 13:00)

>>42088105
Depends on your metabolism. You can cut calories but make sure you get carbs couple hours before each run and protein afterwards

>>42092299
>Depends on your metabolism
fuck off retard

>>42088131
Nike plus. Kevin heart congratulates you n shet.

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I lift 6 days a week, rest on Sundays. Will I be able to incorporate running into three of those days a week? Should I rather do my running some time after lifting? I was thinking of couch to 5k as a good start.

Also are these shoes shit for running?

>>42092281
It only takes 3 weeks of no cardio to start effecting your cardio endurance. Try doing the C25K to build it back up again. You will probably only need to get to week 7 before you are back at it

>>42092283
Die
>>42092296
Correct. I put on weight when I started lifting. I used to be able to run sub 14:00. I'm looking to get back to that or better.

>>42086575
I don't use miles so I don't know actually, but I've run 10k with a time of 4:12/km.

I ran in terrain (without a path, so pretty rough) today and it was amazing. I also tried running on some cliffs by the water which was fun but hardly effective as far as training goes. What are your favourite running places /run/?

>decide to run through the fields today
>can literally hear myself crunching snails the whole run

>>42091551
Cadence is important to avoid injuries. As long as it's quick enough to reduce impact it should be fine so I usually just think about my feet and pay attention to the force impact - if you feel you're stomping your feet then pick up the cadence.

Also, listen to the strokes while running.

>>42092369
Went running in terrain first time the other day and it was fun as fuck. Your mind is kept busy trying its best to manoeuvre across the roots and stones that litter the ground.

Definitely beats the monotony of running track/road.

Came across a lake during my run and took a quick dip, was godly.

>>42092403
I actually took a dip after my run as well, it felt so good. Summertime running is the best

>>42092390
My problem was that I had no idea how fast 180 steps per minute really is, and I don't want to overdo it and have some absurdly rapid cadence either.

>>42092331
I guess I'll try that thanks anon

>>42088359
No, 60 BPM is the average.

and mid 30's is very dangerous unless they were in a sauna for 2 hours prior to the reading.

>get blister on ring toe
>no big deal, put band-aid and sport tape over it
>go running
>halfway through run
>pinkie toe feels like it's about to fall off
>check foot
>giant blood blister
So now I've got two gooey wounds on consecutive toes, and I can barely walk right. Probably take two days off, bike, then start running again.
I did get a 7 and a half minute pace for 3 miles two days ago. Which is pretty good for me.

Also, I need new shoes, I'm 6'5 so big feet and all that, but I don't want to blow $150 on shit I'm going to run through. Prefer to keep it in the $50-$100 range since I'll likely wear them for day to day stuff, too. Any recommendations?

>>42089636
Second this. My first 5k switching to merrells I thought my calves were going to pop. Have to build milage back up as if you've never run before. Once you do running becomes so much more fun, and like anon said, no injuries and you'll get faster and great form. I'm a 2.52 marathoner barefoot/minimalist, but struggled to break sub 3hr in "normal" shoes.

>>42091667
My running coach once said that if it's above the neck (nose, sinus, head etc) then run, if it's below, so chest or lungs, rest. Works for me

My knees hurt time to time so I have asked on /fit/ more than once advice, one that stuck out was to switch from treadmill to exercise bike.
I finally acquired one, but I was wondering now 2 things:

1) What can I do to keep the rest of the body busy while I am cycling away?

2) I have not been consistently on a treadmill for a long long time due to lazyness and fear for my knees, so I am rather overweight now, when will I be able to get back to it knowing that my knees are strong?

>>42091117
Hey I ran that yesterday too! Was a hot one!

>>42089636
>Running barefoot/minimalist changed running for me, I never get injured anymore
Funny you say that.
http://running.competitor.com/2010/05/features/the-barefoot-running-injury-epidemic_10118

I am not that anon but I would not go around recommending to run barefoot, is like saying that "if men were meant to fly ecc...
People ought to wear shoes.

>>42091861
What's your end game? Just running for fun? Then just slowly add distance, mix up long easy runs and short to medium runs at 90% effort. If you want to get faster, hill sprints and speed/tempo work are your friends

anyone deadliting 500+ and running a 20 min 5km?

>>42089423
I ran a half marathon on 1:35 on 5:36 km average on 31 miles a week a while back, if that is somewhat comforting. You shouldn't expect to average race pace in training.

injured my LCL on a hike a few weeks ago and now I can't run 2km without feeling sharp pain in the knee. My doc called it an insertionitis, but gave me no way to treat this in order to make it heal completely. Wat do? Is there anyone who could spare some advice?

>>42093022
20min 5k is my objective. Last I've ran was about a month ago, 5.5km in 24'05''. good on you, m8, I'm deathly afraid of going running again and seeing how much I obviously lost. Did you find deadlifting heavy helped your running?

Dick's Sporting Goods has Nike Downshifter 6s for $32 today on their website.

Grabbed myself a pair to try them out. Seem like a solid shoe right in my price range. Sharing in case anyone else is interested.

>>42091695
>>42091948
Honestly if you say you can already do 100m sprints, it looks like you're gonna make it. Its not gonna be easy and it will take a while, but for the injury you describe and running already only 1 month after surgery seems like clear progress

>>42092386
I see a lot of snails in my route near the river. I avoid them though cause i'm not a heartless murderer.

>>42092428
An absurdly rapid cadence won't be really as detrimental though. I've found i have to consciously put effort into quick steps to go above 190, while 180 feels natural

>>42092981
There's not much to do with your upper body while cycling imo
For your knees though, you can always re-do c25k or just go on powerwalks. movement will help strengthen your knees anyway

>>42093671
Yeah get on those intervals then mate. My track sessions got me from 22min 5k to 16.32

>>42094101
s-sorry, I couldn't see them in the grass, I swear

Signed up to a 10km charity run through work. Anyone got a good 10k running plan? Need to be ready in 3 months. Ran 3k easy earlier today so don't know where to start.

>>42094822
I'm using the Hal Higdon half marathon plan, and it's pretty comfy. It's set for 12 weeks, but since you only need to run 10k you can cut it short.
http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51131/Half-Marathon-Novice-1-Training-Program

>>42086575
Poor form right there.
Right?

>>42086575
Fastest was 4:49 in high school. Given two weeks to train I could probably go sub 5:15

Hey guys.
I'm planning on running a half marathon on october, 22nd.
I've been running twice or thrice a week for 12~16 month, but I usually run 5 to 8~10Km max. I'm also doing a weight lifting routine 3 times a week.
>How should I train for the half marathon?
Thanks guys!

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My main problem when I go for runs is that after a while I start to experience pain on my right shin and start limping . How do I sort this out?

>>42095524
>>42094913

>>42095573
Stop running that way immediately. Be more in control. Be more in control of your stride.

>>42086575
Hello friends does anybody run in Adidas Ultraboost?

I got a pair for daily use but I was wondering if they were ok to run in

>>42095161
Yeah. Clearly overstriding.

went for a run for the first time yesterday.
i was pretty beat after 15 minutes, didn't think it would be that demanding.
on the way back home i only managed to jog intermittently. Plus it was raining.
But it felt great. I'll go for another one tomorrow.
How long does it take to see some general improvement?

>>42088131
Run in nice environments and find something to listen to. If music's not your thing there's a podcast for everybody out there

>>42095612
I have the more running focused model and it works like a charm. I would however limit yourself to shorter runs if you have the more light sneaker-esque standard ones

>>42095573
Give your legs a weeks rest, more if necessary

Today I felt /fit/ for the first time since I used to run seriously. I did a hard workout but felt great after it. Usually I would be near death. Makes me want to get back training seriously again.

A good run is so much more rewarding than a good gym session imo

>tfw legs feel constantly tired
I know that easy runs should somehow make them feel more rested, but they don't. I don't know if it's because I go too heavy or because I'm too much of a beginner. I also walk a lot, maybe 2-3 km a day, maybe that also contributes to it.

Just ran for the first time in over 3 years. 24min 5k on a hilly route. Better than I expected but I used to run 5k in 18min when I was 15 so kinda feelsbadman. How long will it take me to get below 20?

>>42095573
It's called shin splits and as a beginner you're likely getting them because you either run with a bad form or have bad shoes.

There is a lot of running form videos on youtube, look up a few. tl;dr is that you should be making lots of small steps rather than fewer longer ones so that you hit the ground mid-foot-ish and below your centre of gravity.

Then get actual running shoes, don't run in just random sneakers, it makes a lot of difference. They cost 100-150 bucks but it's basically the only investment you have to make, so overall running is still quite cheap.

>>42092995
Nice one. How did you get on? My brother, sister and a couple of club mates ran it also and they all had a struggle so I don't know how I PB'd.

I think the problems came when I started lapping people on the seafront and I couldn't get to the water stations properly. Some bloke I was talking to said it was the first time he's ever had to walk in a Half and that was because he couldn't get any water while lapping people so he had to stop to get some. He still did it in about 1:22 though.

>>42095713

Foam roller and days off. No point in getting injured when you're just starting off. Keep a flexible routine until you get the fitness up. Nothing wrong with taking days off or going easy.

>>42095633
You should see some improvement in a couple of weeks. maybe faster if you're just starting. Make sure you're not running too much at the beginning or you might get injured though

>>42095932
will do, thanks

>>42095612
Ultraboost are God tier distance trainers. The continental soles last for ages and the boost takes a lot of the harshness out of your stride. Wouldn't recommend for races though. I alternate for race day with Nike flyknit racers, Saucony type a6, Adidas adizero Adios 3s or Asics hyperspeed 6 (I race a lot)

>>42095849
I PB:d at 1:28:08. Localish race for me, I run with Harlow RC

>>42086575
Fat "power" "lifter" here
Lifting is tiring enough already. Whenever I jog my erectors hurt. Lifting doesn't hurt at all. What do? I'm buying a bike in end of august, is it good for endurance and conditioning? Or do I have to run?

>>42096076
Some argue run is better, some will say cycling. The important thing is you're doing something. Cycling you can do for longer and is better if you are larger, running is for real men. Take your pick

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>trainer recently time trialed me
>1 mile: 6:57
>800m: 3:08
>he puts my tempo runs at 7:20
>have to keep that pace for 3 miles tomorrow

>>42091725

Surely this place is enough.

>>42091725

Steve Magness
Letsrun forums

>>42095573
ur stepping on the balls of ur feet too much.

try to land in the middle of ur foot and distribute the weight throughout your whole foot

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Why does my spit get thick and disgusting when I run? I looked it up and google says I'm dehydrated except my urine is very light yellow bordering on water like pretty much all of the time as well as drinking as I run. What fucking gives?

>>42097495
all the breathing while you're running oxidizes your saliva so that it forms a lot of bubbles when it comes out. Basically your spit just gets full of air.

>>42096031
>those prices
You've spent far too much money on shoes, anon.

I started couch to 5k again. Every time I run and then do a walking interval my calves seize and spasm. It is excruciatingly painful. I bought new Brooks running shoes and am hoping it will help. Any ideas what is causing it and how long I need to rest before I can go on my next run?

>>42098649
>my calves seize and spasm
You could be stretching too much or not enough. Could be dehydrated. You could be going too hard/fast for what your body can do. Make sure you're getting your electrolytes.
>how long I need to rest
Give it a day or two, and then go back the next day on an easy jog. Listen to your body. If it's still bothering you, you can ask a doctor.
I have no idea if half of what I just typed is legit, but its what I would do in your situation.

>>42098649
getting enough magnesium and potassium?

Pretty new to running but a friend offered to show me oklahoma states cross country course. How much harder is it than running on roads?

New to running wondering what the most efficient way to get to goals is.

>running for little under 2 months
>first month was a mile
>2nd month is 1.75
>started off being able to run a whole mile 5.5 pace
>now can't even run 1/2 mile at 6mph without fast walk break

So I ran half a mph faster and also started 5x5 stronglifts on 2nd month and I can run for half as long. I run on off days. Feels bad man, should I drop the speed and run for as long as I can or go for 3 miles and come back to the 2 mile later with increased pace? Never been active before, I weigh 175, skinnyfat and 30 years old if that matters.

I no longer feel like dying after running 1km
progress boys

>>42099163
I guess I can only ask what your goal is? Do you want to run a 5k super fast? Just a mile?
>>42099268
You're gonna make it, anon. Just keep at it.

>>42099268
best feelin

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Are Nike's meme shoes? They look good but the ones I have tried don't seem good for running long distance.

>that one guy that passes you on your cooldown lap and you just KNOW he thinks he's a badass

>>42099316
No I'd like to get a 10 minute pace down for 2 miles, then three. Maybe I should start on 1 mile first, I usually pace myself for 2 miles so I don't run out of steam.

how can I tell if my shin splints are healed enough to run again?

>>42099432
If they hurt you, they probably aren't healed.

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is this how tight a kneecap is supposed to be?

>>42091725
Harry Runs, Run Experience and Durianrider (mostly cycling but think he has a running channel too)

>>42097785
It's only money anon, most were in sales, most expensive were the Adios 3 at £70

>>42099329
No, Nike make some of the best mainstream running gear on the market. They often clean up at running awards. The Lunaglides are great everyday shoes, flyknit racers and zoom streaks are fantastic race day shoes. Same goes for Adidas, they know what they are doing, but try to get a series earlier than latest to get most bang for your buck

>>42086575
I have a few questions

How the fuck do you guys run so much? I can barely do 5k in half an hour

Lately been doing hiit 60/30, 6 times
Any routine suggestions?

Also I have a shoulder injury right now. It fucking hurts when I try to even open a door with left arm. Can I run in this condition?

Finally got some time to contribute. I do start in city marathons and halfs.
My usual routine includes 6 training pet week:

Monday: Tresholds, around 10km with pace 3:30-3:50/km.
Tuesday: long progressive run, 14-16km.
Wednesday: Easy run, around 10km.
Thursday: long progressive run, 16-18km. Starkingu with easy run pace, ending with 3:30min/km.
Friday: free time - Beer with frienda Saturday: long run, 22-32km.
Sunday: easy run.

As addition I try to do foam rolling, streching and core stability at least once a week(each) but i hate this crap though it is essential to avoid injuries.

My 42km personal best is 03:05 and 1:23 for the 21km.

Currently running with tom tom cardio music and this is a piece of crap. I need to change it for garmin.

>>42100427
push yourself more

faggot

>>42100427
>>>42086575 (OP)
>I have a few questions
>How the fuck do you guys run so much? I can barely do 5k in half an hour

Like any exercise it's the right training done consistently.

>>42100427
>How the fuck do you guys run so much? I can barely do 5k in half an hour
consitant training
>get on a decent training plan the nike app is nice becaue it generates plans to fit your goals and fitness level zombies,run! also comes with free training plans but you can customize them

about 1.5 years ago I was just like you now "easy 20 k runs" are a regular thing for me

>>42090968
run to a pool walk home

>>42086575


>>>/asp/

>>42100497
>>42100567
Ah ok thanks
Got any video for general advice and proper form?

>>42099329
I tried a variety of running shoes but didn't find anything that felt quite right. On a suggestion from a running friend, I tried a cheap pair of Nike Flex 2014 from our local factory outlet (old design, but way cheaper than usual). Now I only wear them, and get newer pairs from time to time. I don't really notice I'm wearing them, even for long runs, which is exactly what I want from a shoe.

>>42089636
How do you manage to not get pain under your feet? I get ulcers and pretty bad pain if I run over a certain distance (like an hour's worth of running). Is it slowly upping the mileage? I run with 'normal' running shoes and mostly on concrete, and I would imagine running barefoot or with thinner soles would be even more painful than it is now.

>>42100963
1. Better socks most likely for the ulcers.
2. For pain check your running technique.

Factors to consider when buying shoes

Drop
Weight
Gait
Barefoot - Minimalist - Maximalist
Cushioning
Traction
Breathability
Tortional stability
Arching

>>42095524
Just push it once or twice til 15k and see how you feel.

21 km isnt really that hard at all.

> Started couch25k but didn't have proper shoes.
> ran in chucks and entire lower body ached for days
> managed to push through and finish week 1

Should I just buy some ~$20-$30 running shoes before I do week 2

>>42092268
That's what he said

>>42101116
Yes. Heck I'd even say buy 70-90 dollars running shoes on credit.

Also look up some videos on running form.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdl6fK5k8jE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkyBr47DdY0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM8om1T9VJA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar804FsmdTc

>>42101152
Any vids on breathing?

Always feel like lungs are burning by the time I'm done

>>42101116
Ausbrah? K-Mart has some cheap ones that will do the trick .
Also watch the checkout video on running shoes
TL;DR more expensive shoes only offer a 1% power increase compared toncheap ones

>>42095524
get nike running app
tell it you want to run 1-3 times a week
tell it you run about 20k a week
tell it 10k is a long run for you
tell it your race day is okt 22nd

It will give you a training plan tailored to your needs you can then just write it down or actually use the app to track your shit

>>42100987
The pain is from the ulcers; I think my running technique is fine. But thanks, I'll look into that.

>>42099154
It depends on the elevation. Could go from easy to painfully hard

>>42101246
That usually means you're running too fast

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>>42101246
Keep your shoulders loose and open, this gives more space for your lungs, also pace yourself, if you run for 10km, try to hit +-10s same pace for every kilometer, this will help you maintain your breathing anon

>>42090951
Running will get rid of your congestion for a little while

>>42087949
To run 6 miles at a 9 minute pace you should just be focusing on running more each day. Only running 8 miles a week won't cut it. I'd ramp up the amount you run each day as well as the distance. Sprints will not increase your speed for a longer run like six miles. Rather you should run 4 miles Mon - Wed, then have Thursday be your long run day of six miles, and have Friday be a rest day of two miles.

I used to run in high school. My mile PR was 5:00 and my 5K was 17:58 ( I was decent, I gave up trying to run in college ) so I can answer most questions.

>>42088513
I agree with >>42088596 , the best way to get better at running is to run more. My freshman year of high school my first 5k was 30+ minutes. My coach came up with this challenge called the 500 mile club - just run more than 500 miles over the summer and into before the season starts. I did that and brought my 5k down to 19

>>42089619
Running barefoot is a different experience, and running barefoot on the beach is much different than running barefoot. It's harder since you sink into the sand. Honestly, I would reccomend it - itd be better to just find a trail or road, but if you can't then it's fine. It's just more work for you. You sort of get the same effect running in the snow.

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>GOTTA GO FAST!!!

>>42088131
> Running is usually extremely boring
Don't run on a treadmill/elliptical, do it outside.

Not sure if this is the right place for this, but how often can I sprint at maximum effort? And how should I structure my sprinting workouts? Right now I've been warming up with a 1600m light run around a track, followed by 6-8 sets of 40 metres at maximum effort, them 2-3 400s at maximum sustainable effort after the max effort, then 800m slow then a walk. It's exhausting, and I didn't really look into anything when I started doing it, just sort of started running one day with the idea of sprinting for fat-loss/exercise. I've only been doing it once a week so far and it's very exhausting, is once a week enough, or too much, or should I be training this more or less?

How would you modify this?

(I'm a bodybuilder, my cardio endurance is decent, I can run 10km in about 38 minutes at a steady pace, but I'm not fast, training this for fat loss and supplemental leg conditioning)

Why am i not getting back into shape?

Been running a lot in my youth but at some point i stopped, did nothing and got chubby. So i decided to start again 4 months ago. I have a 5 km route that I run 2-3 times a week but I cannot manage to run that distance straight. Always need a break since my pulse gets too high at the last third.

Some would say that's normal but i haven't been improving for 2 months now.
Is it just so much harder when getting older?

>>42090968
without water on the entire house?
If not, just get some watering can and pour over you. You don't need a shower to clean up.

>>42102076
>I'm a bodybuilder, my cardio endurance is decent, I can run 10km in about 38 minutes

Stop lying you fucking moron. No experienced runner would call 10 km on 38 minute decent. That is 3.8 min / km.

>>42102331
This. It's a very good time that you don't reach by accident. That's like calling a 5minute miles "decent"

>>42102084
I'd say that unless you're past 70, you should still get decent gains.
Slow down, if you're checking your pulse, try to keep it below 150 or 140 even.

Is it okay to run when your legs are very sore (DOMS) or should you take a break to fully heal?

>>42102693
If it's only DOMS yeah.
If it's shin splints no

>>42102738
how do i identify shin splints?

>>42102825
It hurts in your splints and you usually can't run because of pain. DOMS don't last and usually goes away while running.

>>42102945
okay, thanks. i'll just try going for a run and see what happens.

>>42102825
Try changing shoes or inlays first. Thought i had shinsplints but it went away after buying new shoes.

average time for a 1km run?

>>42103033
12 hours

>>42103191
thanks fit,always helpful

>>42103033
>>42104358
Disregard bully-kun. I'll assume you mean only a 1k sprint as opposed to 1k pace throughout a longer run. I'd say that a decent time is around 4min. But average probably 5min.

If you're actually looking to race this though, anything above 3min is probably bad.

>>42102084
Look up the MAF training method. It has clear measured progress, and a cap on heart rate which will make running more pleasant for you.

Fuck working hard - that is for elite bullsiht young folks. Find a way to run that you LOVE, then do it a lot. Who cares if you ever 'BQ', if you run 100km of trails every week?

>>42102331
Could be treadmill? That is a heavily trained runner time. My 10k is 33.38 but it's all I do (running) and I run and train hard with a proper club and trainer 6 days a week 52 weeks a year!

>>42101626
My 'long run' used to be defined as '25% or more of my weekly volume'.
Lately, my weekly is around 100km, but my long run has not grown much beyond 20k. I do a pretty consistent 15 or so each day, but how to get my long run up without sacrificing my 20-hour-recovery ?

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>>42086575
Just finished a run with my friend, on 21/7 we're running this course for a local "competition".
My goal is to do it in less than 60 minutes.

>picture related

>>42104735
Up your cadence.

>>42104735
That's a good and reachable goal. Good luck anon! My goal is too run 20k in under 1 hour and 40 minutes, let's hope we both achieve the things we long for!

>>42104797
Yeah, did this run without smartwatch/headphones so had no idea what pace we kept.

On race day I'm using the audio queues from Runkeeper, should be able to keep ~5min/km then.

>>42103033
for me it is 2:45

>>42103033
I haven't run that short a distance in a few years so I don't know, but probably under 3 minutes at least

>>42104835
You're not far off doing it sub 60. At least one minute of that is mental. On race day you'll be a bit faster anyway. Keep that cadence and throw in a few 4.40min/k at like 4 and 8k

>>42104816
Thanks!

>>42104888
The biggest problem is the amount of people (2000+) and some bottlenecks along the track where you only can get by in a single file.

>>42100399

Who the fuck takes Durianrider seriously? That's like getting your political news from Salon

>tfw always want to sprint and go as fast as possible

I need help. I need a 11min 2.5kg

Currently I can only run a Mile in 7 minutes and 30 seconds then I NEED a break

I've been stuck here for ages and don't know what to do!!?

>>42105730
Do you do longer runs also?
Tried some kind of interval training?

Is there a specific diet you follow for competition prep or for performance improvement in general?
How important is sleep for your running performance?

>>42105810
>Is there a specific diet you follow for competition prep or for performance improvement in general?

For a half marathon or longer you probably need to do some kind of a carb load.

>How important is sleep for your running performance?
I think the ~8h/night rule for recovery applies both to strength and running.

>>42105791
I always kinda give up after the mile t b h
I just get over heated and too exhausted and end up needing loads of little breaks

What I'm gonna do in the future I think is run the mile without stopping, then do the half mile with little breaks between until I can do it all in one big go.

I don't know why i didn't do this at first honestly, I guess I'm not very bright.

>>42101330
Thanks!

If anyone out there is interested in running marathons, this free training programme from Nike is actually pretty good, and most importantly free. Wether or not you want to run marathons, 10k or 5k, you can definitely take away a few things to add to your own schedule! I've never run more than a half marathon, and next Monday I will start doing this. Very excited!


https://content.nike.com/content/dam/one-nike/en_us/season-2015-su/Running/NikeRunClub/TrainingPlans/Marathon_Training_Plan_Miles_3_29_2016.pdf

>>42106112
>31 pages
TL;DR

>>42106127
It's very detailed but you can easily skip the introduction and anytging you're not interested in.

>>42092981
Fish oil

>>42092981
If you run longer runs on a treadmills you need one with a bit of incline, otherwise you will slowly damage your legs/knees regardless of what you do

I started running every second day this summer, but fuck me my lower left leg hurts like a motherfucker, can't go today because it's hard to even walk
Am I doing it wrong or what

>>42102076
>I can run 10km in about 38 minutes at a steady pace, but I'm not fast
>body builder

Why do people even bother coming here to lie.

No 'body builder' could run at that speed consistently for 10km. Even club runners need considerable training to reach sub 40minute 10ks.

What clothes do you guys run in? Any recommendations? I recently bought son H&M things pretty cheap thinking it would be quite bad but I quickly realised that it was some of the best runners clothing I've ever had. I also recently saw that they sponsor some great ultra runners like Tommy Puzey.

>>42106322
Probably. Are you slapping your feet against the ground? Are you stretching too much before/after you run?

>>42106322
Sounds like shin splints?

>>42106338
>What clothes do you guys run in?

Some old running shorts and a breathable t-shirt. Sweatband also to keep sweat from getting into the eyes. Running shoes are whatever is comfortable for you and provide enough support.

Wear an extra layer if it's cold but remember you will warm up considerably during your run.

>>42106338
I just wear all my old sport stuff from highschool. I did get some compression shorts that I've been wearing for my long runs, though.

>>42104446
i just started running the other day, and the time my phone measured was 4.8 minutes.

How do I longer my longer runs, in this fucking heat?

>>42106451
1. Wear sun protection. Not just sunscreen. You'll sweat it off and burn. Long sleeves. Jogging pants. Light, full coverage. Breathable. No rain slicker wind jacket shit. You'll stew in your own juices.

2. Carry water.

>>42106451
Also, run slower.

>>42106451
Run early in the morning

>>42092945
>switching to merrells
Fucking love merrell running shoes.

>>42106475
>1. Wear sun protection. Not just sunscreen. You'll sweat it off and burn. Long sleeves. Jogging pants. Light, full coverage. Breathable.

I do, as much as it sucks. (though I do wear shorts, my socks are pretty tall usually)


>2. Carry water.

I wear a belt/bottle holder.
Protip: water is handy for rinsing out a wound, too.

>>42106491
>Also, run slower.
Funny you should say that, I just decided to try the MAF method, and cap my HR a bunch lower than usual. Should be tough with all the up and down on my route...

>>42106501
>Run early in the morning
When that is more applicable, I'll do it. Long days for now. (north of 60 degrees)

My run keeper tells me that I've run about 200km too much in my Adidas Energy Boosts, so I should probably get new ones. What's the consensus on what to get? I plan to run 10k up to Marathons in terms of distance

>>42093008
Ran a low 4:30s mile barefoot recently and didn't get injured. Are you saying that I should have been?

>>42106323
>>42106508
I've tried most "minimalist /barefoot" shoes and Merrell are the best. Vibrams I just didn't get on with and most others have too much padding even though they are meant to be minimal drop

>>42102693
update: i'm back from my run, and according to the descriptions here, i do not believe that i am suffering from shin splints.
However, i simply powered through the pain from the DOMS, but now my legs are seriously shot to shit. As in, i had trouble putting on my underpants after showering. Imma take a day off tomorrow, this can't be healthy.

>>42106501
or evening

>>42106646
If you're not used to running, doing so in back to back days is a bad idea in general. Take it easier next time anon

>>42106749
oh i most certainly will.

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>>42105730
This might help

>>42089619
When marathon training, I mostly ran on the beach. During the last 5 miles of a 20 mile run, I took off my shoes and socks and ran in the water. It was a huge mistake.

I've got flat feet and have big arch support in my shoes. I learned that I can't run without that.

Allright, i need some running advice. Looks like i'm heading back in the Army again after a couple of years studying, so i will need to hit about 13.00 on the 3 km tests, no later than at the end of this year. Anyone have any recommended cardio set-ups?

My personal best from a few years ago was about 13.40, and i got that just by running a lot as part of my normal work out(30 min fast jog and some 4x4 intervalls and so on).

I havent tested in a while, but i'm probably not below 15-ish, or at least around that.

I'm about 190cm tall, around 110 kg as well. Was about 105 kg when i did 13.40, so i think i have it in me at least.

>>42107353
get a bicycle and learn how to move forward for great distances. Break yourself. But do not over train. Make sure your body is responding. Supplement bicycling with walking and running. Once you're no longer unhealthy slowly transition to more running. Add mixed terrain and mixed efforts as you become stronger. Avoid pollution from cars and whatnot as best as possible, also please don't run in cheap shoes. Get them fit by a professional since it's you probably never did that before.

>>42107471

>>42107471
>>42090389

https://www.strava.com/clubs/fitizens
Join this too so you have ppl to run with virtually and so you don't get trolled by ppl who can't run

>>42107353
>>42107539
Mobile posting is a headache

How much work would it realistically take to go from a 1:39 half to a 1:29? I want to get there by spring next year. Currently running about 70km/week, and i plan on keeping that or higher throughout the summer

>>42092304

ayyyyyyy yissss

we should all compete, I have /fitizens/ from like 3 years ago but non are active

>>42092281

focus on manually breathing

it sounds really retarded but force yourself to take really deep and fast breaths the entire time you're running

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Just started running, two weeks into some C25k program. Is this enough stretching?

>>42108447
Did she step on land mines or does the artist hate feet for some reason

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>>42108509
It's a girl from Katawa Shoujo, anon. It's a VN about crippled girls. It's kinda ironic in the way that the girl who likes to run have no legs, and a girl who paints have no arms.

>>42108447
I usually don't even stretch anymore, and I run 3-8 miles a day. Start off slow and work up to a good speed. But those are pretty good stretches.
When I do stretch, I usually do those, minus the ankles and back stretches. Throw in some jumping jacks at the beginning.

>>42105730
>>42105881
If your problem is that you can't run more than about a mile without stopping, then try running slower.

>>42108716
Okay thanks. The ankle shit feels a bit weird, but I guess that they are good for something.

>>42108509
>>42108588
The funniest part is when she stretches her mechanical calves.

>>42108447
>hold for 12 seconds
I do the starting stretching stretches, and they are supposed to be held for a minute, so one fifth of that seems kinda low.

>>42108855
I usually go 10,15,30 seconds for any stretches. I don't think you need to go for that long. In fact, it might even be bad to go for that long.

>>42108855
>The funniest part is when she stretches her mechanical calves.
Got to keep the metal springy.

>>42108889
Do you mean 10 or 15 or 30, or first 10 then 15 then 30?

>>42108908
>10 or 15 or 30
This. I usually give myself a slow 10 or 15 count.

My sex drive has basically disappeared and I can't get fully hard anymore. I run maybe 20 miles a week but I eat alot of processed carbs and run alot of "junk miles" will a healthy fats diet and proper training fix this?

Anyone around in the Dallas area? I want to run the Dec half marathon but no one I know like to run.

>>42111119
No one *likes to run. Hell it's hard dragging people out for a damn walk.

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>>42111134
Where do you think we are?

What is a respectable 5km time?

>>42111274
15-25 minutes.

>>42111316

Neat I can do 21 and this has been with rejecting cardio for years.

If I'm starting Couch to 5K, is that actually running or just jogging?

stupid question: I don't believe there is any great gain on the top half but will running make my chest/arms smaller?

How would a marfanoid, asthmatic lanklet who is totally gassed after 100m increase his endurance? Would running everyday help?
Asking for a friend.

>>42111316
Really? I feel a lot better now.

>>42111412
Why are you differentiating the two and how?

>>42111421
>Would running everyday help?
>Asking for a friend.
yes. running every day is good but rest days are also good but whatever works with your routine of course.

currently I am running 5 days with 2 days rest.
jog at whatever pace is comfortable.. then up the pace, up the distance etc.
the biggest killer of cardio is lack of motivation in my opinion. stretching is important as well so peep some guides for that

>>42111474
Well, there is a difference between them. I want to track my progress.

My achilles is sorta hurting after running. I make sure to stretch after the first kilometer, but after yesterday's run this shit feels cramped up the lower back part of my legs. It's not a stinging or intense pain, it's just there and uncomfortable. Am I maybe stretching wrong or not enough? Could it be an issue with the ground I am running on? (Woods, mountains)

For referece my mobility is pretty bad in general, can only touch my toes with pain.

>>42112789
oh hey, I just had this problem. for me it was caused by adding lots of climbing to my routine all at once. what worked for me was to roll my calves a fair bit before and after each run, and each night stand on the stairs and lower my heels slowly, and then go quickly back up 15 times, 2-3 sets. took 3-5 days to feel better.
not clear this is your problem, but if one calf has significantly more knots when you're rolling, that's probably it.

>>42111416
as long as you keep up your lifts I can't see any reason it would

>>42106565
not getting injured after running one mile does not mean it's a good idea.

>>42104595
I like you :)

>>42105848
Tell that to most of the modern ultra runners, they usually only do LCHF / Paleodiets

>>42112789
Stretch.

This is a pretty common problem when you start mid / frontfooting , your muscles aren't used to it.

Wait til it clears then resume.

>>42107539
Joined

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Today I achieved my goal of 8:30 for a 2.4km run. My next goal is to get it below 8 minutes. When I got back I binged a bit on chocolate and I'm thinking I'll skip tomorrows run to celebrate.

>>42113113
I would guess that they want to keep themselves as lean as possible.
I've read that our livers can store about 100g of glycogen and 400g in our muscles, that's 2000kcal.
If you're at a low BF% you won't have a lot of extra energy to burn so you'll probably wanna do a carb load or use power gels etc. during the race.

rotator cuff gone :'(. Running is still OK right?

>>42113265
I think they want to want to run as fast as possible as long as possible.

How lean they are wont matter. Just look up some videos.

>>42113265
Keep in mind that's probably right after eating, and a lot of that goes to metabolic processes. Theoretically if you're doing keto you can metabolize fat directly into energy faster so you can run through your fat supply.

>>42113281
Rotator cuff is upper body so you should be okay but if it hurts in a way it shouldn't stop. That said I get pain behind my shoulders when I run long distance for some reason so be careful.

>165 lbs 5'10 ~13%bf
>do 1 mile at 10 mins pace
>check hr
>180 bpm
is this normal? does the hr during the run decrease over time or is something wrong with my heart. I run every other day on the treadmill at the gym.

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Are this good for a beginner?

>>42113375
Good cushining not as stable as some other boost models good for road running not recommended if you go off road

I got the boost energy a week and love them

had the questar boost before that they where nice and I would have stuck with(nice price) them if I didnt have wierd shaped left heel

>>42104631
Hmm, desu I'm not quite sure. Maybe just increase the length of all your runs? I can really only give good advice for when you'd like to run more - when I did xc I ran everyday except Sunday. You could also start slowly increasing the length of your long run each week, to slowly build up your endurance.

>>42113375
No. Honestly they like a bad mix of the worst of everything.

large cushionng
bad stability
high drop

>>42102084
You should just slow down your pace. Basically, slow it down every time you run until you can do your loop without stopping. You can even time how long it takes you to get your exact pace if you'd want. But yeah, slow down your pace, it's the best and easiest thing to do.

>>42113400
Yeah I do not plan to run on dirt and shit, mostly concrete or asphalt.

>>42113439
well you still might prefeer a shoe that doesnt feel woobly in the back plus addidas just came out with a new energy boost wich means last years model can be easily be found 60€ cheaper

Today I run my first 5K without having to stop. Am I gonna make it?

>>42113453
Ah yes, no matter how many socks I wear, the back still feels loose.
Is that what you mean?

New thread
>>42113519

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>>42113500
YEP might try some inserts some time soon.

Have you tried marathon lacing doesnt solve the problem but it helps alot

>>42113492
Yea you are anon, keep up the good work

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I had 30 $ Nike running shoes and i did like 200 km + half marathon in those

decided to go for upgrade, bought 100 $ New Balance

I feel like my running form is worse

did i just got memed by New Balance?

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>>42113820
>30 $ Nike
please specify
also evryones a bit diffrent

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>>42113869
Nike Downshifter 7

>>42113362
It will decrease over time as your heart gets stronger.
180 is still pretty high, you should probably slow down.

>>42113917
those are ment to get you ready to wear minimal shoes maybe thats whey the new balnce seem wierd to you now