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Lactose intolerant Untermensch here, what's the best non-diary milk, as far as protein is concerned?

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>>42081412
>untermensch
You are part of TWO THIRDS who are unable to properly digest milk. You are the MAJORITY.

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>>42081316
generic anti plant eater things coming through

https://pastebin.com/r3ip4kYt

>>42081412
Soy, hands down
>>42081414
This is a terrible infograph

>>42081421
Yeah, I know, I was just being a bit cheeky and sarcastic, that's just my sense of humour

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>>42081433
>muh environment and water scarcity

its just a bunch of (sand)niggers

>>42081434
>Soy
In all honesty, I'm uncomfortable with soy, what's the second best? Almond milk, perhaps?

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>>42081433
Meat eaters the dumbest shitheads I have ever met.

>no source
>still argue about it

How retarded does meat make you?

Forget it >>42081443 shows how dumb nonvegans are.

>>42081459
>literally show the only graph that matters, that of water scarcity
>but hurrr durr here is a graph of why you must save water

no you dont, if there is an abundance, and it wont go away, then there is no need to save anything.

>>42081421
>something being the majority means it isn't worse
Why don't you stop being vegan then the majority of the world eats animals

>>42081414
omg you are so autistic

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>>42081479
>>42081487
MEAT EATERS !!!!!NOT!!!!! ALLOWED

>>42081414
vegetals are absolutely balls for hardgainers and skellies

also reminder that jews are vegans

http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-the-promised-land-for-vegans/

Do you really want to be like the jews?

>>42081316
Give me a good, calorie efficient vegan protein and I'll go back.
Right now whey protein mixes better and doesn't make me gag, and chicken helps me get protein in with less fuss about my TDEE.

>>42081520
It'd be nice to be rich 2bh

According to the WHO, red meat, and all processed meat, are carcinogens.

I eat fruit, veg, gains and nuts/legumes. I then top up my meals with some chicken or turkey.

Fuck these meatheads who have burger patty, deli meat, steak every day cuz mah protein.

>>42081316
I suck cock on the daily does that count

>>42081414
>100 calories of watercress

so 850 grams of water cress?

>>42081452
Soy contains phytoestrogens, a compound with the same affinity to bind to your estrogen receptors as mammalian estrogen but orders of magnitude less potency. If anything, dairy and beef should scare you. There's tons of resources online, just do a google search for studies (not chaosandpain plog articles lol) about the effects of soy on the endocrine system.
If you still feel scared, then you can try some other plant milk but most have like 0.1 g protein per cup

>>42081479
>literally show the only graph that matters, that of water scarcity
Textbook definition of strawman right there

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>>42081521
pea protein powder

>>42081551
I am just drawing ahead, of the importance and conclusion of your graphs. Even if the cow meat uses too much water, it doesnt matter if you have lots of water. What else is going to happen to the water if it doesnt get used, it will just flow back into the ocean and into the ground.

>>42081541
I see. Now that you put it that way, that is a very good point. Thanks for the clarification and explanation. Soy milk shouldn't be a problem after all.

>>42081521
>whey protein mixes better and doesn't make me gag
There are dozens of affordable vegan options. Check Bulk Powders' or MyProtein's pea, hemp, rice and soy proteins. Order samplers if you're not sure which to buy
>and chicken helps me get protein in with less fuss about my TDEE.
Seitan, tofu, tempeh
>>42081520
Do I really want to eat what those who pull all the strings eat, or do I want to eat what the Jews are selling me? :thinking:
>>42081507
That's embarrassing, stop posting please

>>42081557
MOO-MMY GIB MILKIES

>>42081571
What about the GHG emissions (methane farts and belches) of cows?
>>42081573
Super glad I helped! Gimme a second I want to send you a link, stay in thread

>>42081316
https://discordapp.com/channels/327378610186878986/327378610186878986

>>42081623
put em up in the meatgrinder of the whole global warming debate (most likely rebate since a lot of new industries want to sell you poo)

probably also this new soy garbage or these shitty ass jew foods. If the jews are vegans, then they may be making vegan shilling to sell their crap wares. Truly merchants as they are true to their name.

>>42081573
>>42081452
Come here >>42081662, it's fun

>>42081557
I had some pea protein powder a while ago. Not sure if it passes my gag reflex.
I have some doubts about specific plant sources having all the nescessary amino acids, some of the labeling is really inconsistent.

I have a grudge against hemp protein though. It seems otherwise great, but Jesus Christ does hemp powder blend like shit. It was a pain gagging that shit down, even when I tried making a whole smoothie around it.

I respect veganism, but I still need my crutch until I'm done cutting and reassess my diet and lifestyle.
Also... I had to move in with my sister for a bit and I have less autonomy in kitchen than I like.

>>42081667
>put em up in the meatgrinder of the whole global warming debate (most likely rebate since a lot of new industries want to sell you poo)
English please
>probably also this new soy garbage or these shitty ass jew foods. If the jews are vegans, then they may be making vegan shilling to sell their crap wares. Truly merchants as they are true to their name.
Nuh uh, a true soy shill would tell you to eat beef. If you eat a pound of soy, you've bought a pound of soy. If you eat a pound of beef, you've indirectly bought more than 10 pounds soy

>>42081316
>Vegan
>Heterosexual
Pic one, faggot

>>42081690
>I have some doubts about specific plant sources having all the nescessary amino acids, some of the labeling is really inconsistent.
Why wouldn't they
Just plug in whey and pea/soy/rice/hemp protein (same amounts) on cronometer and compare them yourself
>Pea and hemp make you gag
Have you tried soy or rice?

>>42081602
I'm good with seitan and tempeh, but can be pricey sometimes.
Never been a fan of straight tofu.

Also>>42081690
>not in a place in my life where I have control over the kitchen like I used to

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Why are vegans so fucking annoying?

>pus meme
>poop in meat meme
Literally only in the US is this even a problem
>>42081459
>grain
Burger cows are fed corn.
Literally all of the "unhealthy" memes vegans spread are because companies can do what they want in the US, if there were some actual standards none of this would be a problem

>>42081352
>casein
>toxic
top fucking kek who makes these?

>>42081739

really wish they'd fuck off of this board

>>42081704
>English please

To be honest, I dont know how global warming works, thats a topic that would take several weeks for me to understand the basics from. But you vegan guys are taking up most of my time already :/

many factors

>how the oceans react
>how the ice reacts
>the seasons of ice growth and decay
>time scales
>different substances in the air and in those time scales
>sun activity
>maybe even volcanic buildup?
>vegetation plays a role?
>migration of animals plays a role?

To understand this topic, GHC or whatever the cows emit, is just one part of this giant fucking ass boring puzzle. You would need to know how the sea processes all of this. How the landmass process all of this. What the "normal" ratio could be etc.

And worst of all, there are landmines of industry planted among these many topics. Because they want gibs.

>>42081716
I meant more that I mostly got plant protein blends, and hemp powder.
I have suspicions about powders that are more single source, aside from the obvious hemp and soy which are allegedly "complete"

Just repeating, some of those blends do mix well, but are still overpoweringly gross.

I had brown rice powder once, don't remember much about it though.

>>42081521
Just eat beans idiot

>>42081826
>no grains with those beans
>need ~150g protein a day

>>42081443
Nonsense graph bro.

>>42081734
>Seitan is expensive
Seitan doesn't have to be expensive, all you need is vital wheat gluten and vegetable broth, check on Amazon
>Straight tofu is bland
You should marinade and bread it first, just like a steak or a schnitzel
>No kitchen privileges
That would be an issue even if you wanted chicken rice broccoli, wouldn't it?

>>42081443
>deserts don't have water

SHOCKING

>>42081838
google water stress index, or maps or whatever. Think that the latest ones are even a little bit more stressful...kek

I literally mentioned the name of this in this thread but you vegan mongoloids are too retarded to do a simple lookup. Jesus you cunts.

>>42081414
This is unbelievably misleading.

>>42081858
>tofu is bland
No. It's texture with tofu. Had too many bad experiences with it anyway.

On the other hand, what I hate about tofu seems to be why soy is so versatile as a dairy replacement.

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>>42081434
>>42081497
>>42081514
>>42081538
>>42081883

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGGzgpXlI3Y

>>42081414
1) this is flat out fucking wrong, for example 100g of watercress has 2.3g of protein, neck yourself cunt
2) look up bioavailability
3) stop posting
4) kill yourself

>>42081338
Lmao 300 calories. Just by existing and having calories its a bad thing hahahhahah

>>42081924
>thanks fatty, fat fat

>>42081896
>296 grams of broccoli for 11.1grams of protein
>almost 3kg of broccoli for 110grams of protein

>>42081896
100 grams of broccoli contains less than 3 grams of protein, 100 grams of beef contains 25 grams.

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Can vegan haters disprove this?

>>42081338
all of those things are good for you.

>>42081412
there's lactose free milk.

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>>42082005
>it's not natural!
>most non-whites are lactose intolerant!

>>42082005
>african americans, asians

LOL, but I guess those lactose tolerance genes for whites actually do mean that we are made to drink milk.

But I have to be in line with the other evidence, to modern milk being too processed. Would rather raw milk.

>>42082041
Yes, I am drinking that now, I was just wondering if a non-dairy alternative to it would be healthier.

>>42082005
>the us drinks 9 times more milk than china
wow it's almost like most chinks lack the gene to properly digest milk so they don't drink it in order to avoid shitting themselves

but milk is delicious and good for you so white people who have the gene do drink it

>>42081443
>Middle of australian outback
>Little or no water scarcity
???

Question for non-health vegans: you are at a party where hamburgers are being served, and it is ending. Any burgers left over will be thrown out because they will go bad otherwise. Do you eat one?

>>42082090
There is a giant underwater lake out there. Funny thing, the State I live in a few years back had a severe drought, water use restrictions were placed everywhere, except the inner middle desert. Which of course had the giant underground lake's water to use.
>t. Australian

>>42081421
>Drink 10 glasses of milk
>150% chance to get hit by a bus today

>>42082368
>dying of all causes

oh god wat, is that satire?

>>42081459
>>42081338
>>42081352
>>42081392
I'm so tired of this
>muh millions of pus cells
meme. The FDA limits the maximum amount of contaminants when sampling. If they take a sample and it goes over, the producer is in trouble. That means, on average, food has way, way less than the maximum allowed contaminants.

>>42082585
>y-yes, they have cancer cells
>b-b-but not so m-many

You fucking meat eaters still don't understand how retarded you are?

>>42081459
>How retarded does meat make you?
So retarded that hardly any nobel laureates or inventors of technological breakthroughs have been vegan or vegetarian. Funny how that works.

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>>42082631
Meat makes you so retarded that 100% of all my 600 lbs life participants are meat eaters.

>Higher Cholesterol Is Associated with Longer Life
Can vegans debunk this?
http://roguehealthandfitness.com/higher-cholesterol-associated-with-longer-life/

>>42082715
>millions of doctors agree that high cholesterol harms you
>""""""""""""""""someone"""""""""""""""" founds a study that """"""""""""""""proves"""""""""""""""" the opposite

I guess meat eaters don't understand how they're the pawns of a billion dollars industry.

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>>42081414
fixed that for ya.

>>42082615
vegetables and fruits have limits on the amount of human fecal matter that can be present on them, but you don't hear the meat eaters wheeling that out as a danger of living a vegan lifestyle do ya?

>>42082615
>hurrdurrrhurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Let's look at canned mushrooms:
>Average of over 20 or more maggots of any size per 100 grams of drained mushrooms and proportionate liquid or 15 grams of dried mushrooms
>OR
>Average of 5 or more maggots 2 mm or longer per 100 grams of drained mushrooms and proportionate liquid or 15 grams of dried mushrooms
I guess I should never eat mushrooms ever again, huh? No need to reply, I'll write it for you:
>hurrdurrhurrdurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

And for the record, I know you're "trolling", but consider this. Next time you're wallowing in solitude, think about how you would reply to someone that could pull you out of your misery and loneliness who asks you what you do in your spare time.
>durrr, I spend hours at a time acting retarded and arguing in the most hyperbolic, belligerent, and insufferable way in hopes of getting attention from people, no matter how negative.

>>42082935
>maggots equal cancer and painful death

You fucks seriously wouldn't pass an IQ test.

>>42082953
they don't, but pesticides sure as fuck do you mong

>>42082933
Because they don't have any arguments.

Watch What the Health and try to justify eating meat after this.

>>42081880
That isn't a water stress map, that's why it looks different to "more stressful" maps.

Even a water stress map doesn't mean anything on its own. All it shows is water demand. That's several steps removed from any comment on agriculture tho.

>>42082965
>hurrrrrrrrrrdurrrrhurrrdurrr

So, moving the debate to pesticides means you cannot say anything against the cancer cells in your milk?

>>42082965
>don't even know about bio accumulation
Meat contains more pesticides than vegetables you imbeciles

>>42082987
no, it's not moving the debate, it's pointing out that ALL FOOD has some sort of disgusting negative which exists in it.

>>42082661
That's a completely hysterical tangent, but I'll bite anyway. How many bodybuilders and figure competitors are vegan? Why should anyone care who's selected for some stupid tv show? Obese vegans and vegetarians exists. Fructose is 100% vegan.

Isn't this thread about lifestyle and not fitness? Why is it here

>>42083025
>my food concists of disgusting negative things that ate other disgusting negative things and raises the chances for cancer and other illnesses

>v-vegans are j-just as unhealthy as me ;-;

VEGANISM IS A LIE.

What do vehicles with petroleum-burning engines, and anything electric have in common? They're all powered by FOSSIL FUELS, which come from dead animals. Vegans aren't allowed to own or use ANYTHING that came from an animal -- therefore any so-called 'vegan' that drives a vehicle or uses anything electric is CHEATING and is NOT VEGAN. They may as well stop kidding themselves and go eat a steak, they all FAIL.

So-called 'vegans' also suffer from progressive cognitive deficit due to chronic amino acid deficiencies from malnutrition. That's why vegancucks don't make sense, their brains don't work correctly anymore. People I've known who were vegan then gave it up and went back to eating animal products regularly showed positive changes in their personalities and started being able to think more clearly again.

Face it, vegancucks: humans are OMNIVORES, even many vegans admit it, and your meme 'lifestyle' is anti-health, anti-HUMAN, and exists as a political statement more than anything else, erroneously placing dumb lower animals above humans, which is pants-on-head stupid.

You should be banned from posting threads like this. Veganism has no place in a 'health and fitness' forum, it would be more appropriate in >>>/pol/

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>>42083054

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_lAkPyvSnA

>>42082953

>pass an IQ test

>>42083010
and if you had done more research than vaguely remembering something about DDT from grade school you'd know that most modern pesticides don't accumulate.

>>42083071
You put DEAD ANIMALS in your gas tank.
You power your computer with DEAD ANIMALS.
Some of the materials in your computer were mined or produced with SLAVE LABOR from ANIMALS.

HOW CAN YOU STAND TO LIVE!? YOU'RE A FRAUD!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6IaLLr4xcA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7uJvjbN968
More chemo for the Vegan cancer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BswUbFcBvB8

>>42083112
The animals died naturally, not force killed
Please do some good in this world by killing yourself

>>42082967
It tastes good and helps me make gains. That's all I need.

>>42083165
>kill yourself
Nah, I think I'll do this to you when I catch you, or the next Vegan cunt I come across:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOnkVbcYXRQ

>>42081557
you do realize that the reason dairy cow udders are that large is because they were bred to produce large amounts of milk. those other cows you posted? they're beef cattle or they're personal animals, not dairy cows.

>>42081338
>calcium from bones

Doesn't sound that bad if I'm honest

How shitty comics and biased infographies is considered a legitimate thread and not spam ?

>>42081557
>pea protein powder
deficient in at least one amino acid (lysine). Enjoy your progressive cognitive deficit from MALNUTRITION.

WE ARE OMNIVORES. Our need for certain amino acids you can only get readily from animal sources proves that. You're a fag, a vegancuck, and your brain clearly doesn't work properly due to chronic amino acid deficiencies. Go eat a steak before what's left of your brain turns to mush.

>>42083165

Fairly sure there are very few animals that die of old age.
Most of them are 'force killed'.

>>42082953
>eating cancer cells from a different species gives you cancer
>pass an IQ test

Here's a great YT vid that explains to noobs why veganism is so great. Current vegans should watch it, it's got information you might not know. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4rWWpH1BgM

>>42083044
Would you clarify where you got this idea that small amounts of pus in milk will raise the chances of someone developing cancer? Should we outlaw breastfeeding since there's pus in human milk too?

>>42083112
animals remains are only a tiny fraction of oil
plants are the overwhelming part

>>42083330
You can't expect Vegans to make sense, Anon, they're subject to a progressive cognitive deficit due to malnutrition (amino acid deficiencies, specifically).

>>42083349
Aha, so you ADMIT TO USING ANIMAL REMAINS TO POWER YOUR CAR AND ELECTRICAL DEVICES!

YOU ARE A ***FRAUD*** AND CANNOT CALL YOURSELF VEGAN ANYMORE!

***PROOF POSITIVE THAT VEGANISM IS A FRAUD***

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Op is a meat eating faggot

>>42083373
>but we dont have mental gymnastics :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
>thhhhose animals died naturally :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
>but its okay because ugh, they are not animals they are ugh ded natrthr

fucking veggiefags

>>42083373
>so you ADMIT
cool your jets m8, I'm not a vegan and that was my first post in this thread

>>42083416
Prove it: Show us pic with timestamp of the delicious nutritious ANIMAL PRODUCTS in your kitchen and 'fridge. If for no other reason than to make the veganfags cringe and cry.

>>42081316
im vegan, feels good

I REALLY don't give a fuck what you think I'm eat meat and also FUCK your rules, it's not slaughter it's survival of the fittest (I respect you opinion though)

>>42083476
*I'll

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Oh look, I'm going to make a delicious HAM and CHEESE sandwich for lunch, yum yum!

How does that make you FEEL, veganfags? xD
I think I'll make pig-dying noises while I make the sandwich, too, just to set the mood. xD

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>>42083441
seek professional help

>>42083491
I'm not even a vegan but you need to calm down

>>42081557
HIGH TEST

>>42083509
Cancer
>>42083510
Sticking up for cancer

Veganism is CANCEROUS, anti-health, anti-HUMAN, and has no place on /fit/. Period. End of discussion. There is no room for compromise here.

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Lol

>>42083476
>I'm a lion
go live in savanna and survive there you dumbass

>>42083587
this is the second guy, fuck off, let people be

>>42083622
Like I said, I respect your opinion but let other people have an opinion too

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>>42081316
>>42081324
>>42081361
>>42081383
>>42081405
>>42083071
> every vegan sidekick comic

>>42083622
>go live in savanna and survive there you dumbass

you do realize that humans are one of the top predators on the Savannah right? we're not apex because other predators eat us, but that doesn't change the fact that we are the only species which hunts apex predators.

>>42083491
you probably need to go outside.

>>42083276
>deficient in at least one amino acid (lysine)
Wrong

>>42083276
>>42084014
true, generally grains are deficient in lysine, whereas legumes typically aren't. peas in particular have high levels of lysine, so its safe to say that pea protein powder isn't deficient in lysine.

that being said, peas are deficient in methionine, cystine, and tryptophan, with levels of methionine being especially low.

>>42082615
>pus cells
>cancer cells

Pick one, retard, your deficiencies are showing

>>42082091
Homeless people eat the fine meals restaurants throw out. Morally I'll let them eat the burger.

>>42083491
Jesus dude that style of cheap processed ham literally feels like cancer. I have no idea why anyone tolerates the stuff.

Assumung that I do not but factory farmed shit, is there any reason why I should not consume milk and eggs? Non-biased sources pleases

>>42081338
Not a valid argument for european citizens drinking EU certified milk

>>42081316
daily reminder that animals have to die for plants to grow
normal people: 1
Veggie niggers: 0

>>42081338
Top kek. Dumb niggers. this doesn't apply for organic free range milk! go fuck yourself and your shitty mis-infographs.

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>>42084643
ayy lmao fite me irl meat head

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NO ONE IS THAT FUCKING STUPID
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NO ONE IS THAT FUCKING STUPID
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THIS IS JUST MORE RETARDED TROLLING
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THIS IS JUST MORE RETARDED TROLLING
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>>42084721
this

>>42081432
>What is outdated scientific information

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>>42081690
Mix pea protein with rice protein, makes it taste a lot better, still not your average sugar flavoured whey, but edible.

>>42081316
If I wanted to be vegan and eat real foods while hitting my protein minimum every day while still getting variety in my mouth... I would have to eat over 10 servings of soy each week. Does it give me bitch tits? I collect fat in my chest really easily it's embarrassing. Forces me to stay lean year round. I'm a man I can't handle the ridicule of bitch tits.

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>>42081316
Whats up, green cucks?

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God i love me some delicious steaks <3

>>42081316
I watched a couple documentaries on netflix about the meat industry, and instead of doing independent research and critical thinking, and I'm going to let it brainwash me into becoming vegan.

>>42085468
Research? No go off your (((MANLY NATURAL))) "instincts" which tells you to eat eggs, pork belly, and chicken tits. Your body tells you to eat meat if you really listen to it.