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/fraud/ - thread's been dead for an hour already edition

read all of http://reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki before asking your absolutely retarded questions. no exceptions.

ABSOLUTELY NO SOURCE TALK

previously on idk I didn't read it: >>42064705
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fuck pip reee
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Ehh, rather keep this on topic but just want to thank you guys for having this resource here
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>>42080979
this resource that tells you to go to a different website for actual information and is infested with tripfags, and most hilariously of all, bans source talk?

jajajajaja
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>>42080998
That's not what I mean actually, the steroid reddit is cool, I kind of mean something else

Just wanted to say Thanks
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I'm thinking about doing a cycle of steroids but ONLY takiong them on days that I train, to give my pancreas, kidneys etc. a rest
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>>42081043
stop
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>>42081043
I-is this a shitpost?
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>>42081066

>2017
>not pinning 250mg test/tren/npp/deca on every workout day
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How many of you keep bayer/asprin at home in case you have a heart attack?
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>>42081235
why don't you already have aspirin at home regardless
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I am so fucking hungry. Am i allowed to eat big yet? Only 2 weeks in.
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Mfw I've been running Tren for 12 weeks and only just found out it's toxic to the kidney and liver

I thought that was just orals smdh
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>>42081722
>not permabulking until you're at you're goal then doing a 2 week dnp cut

Never

Gonna

Make it
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Are there any downsides to taking test as an 18 year old?
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>>42082550
Uncertain. Using before 25 could permanently damage HTPA. Could not.
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>>42082524
i was thinking about permabulking becasue im planning to never get off roids and im an ugly slav

im not sure about dnp, i think this shit could kill a genetic waste like me
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Do you guys know where I can get vaigra?

I'm 21 and have never been able to maintain an erection.

Doctor says I'm too young to have ED so I'm buying it blackmarket
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>>42082550
what is fucking up your endo system
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>>42082668
most roid sellers sell cialis. it's better and easier to get.
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>>42082690
fwiw I recommend trying both out. cialis does nothing for me except give me acid reflux like a day later.

viagra makes me super fucking hard and makes me take much longer to cum. the downside is it doesn't last nearly as long as cialis would if it worked on me.
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>>42081722
im hungry too but im only like 5 days into my babbys first cut. i guess i feel fine except im pretty much constantly thinking about food
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>>42082637
DNP strips the Mylein Sheath off your neurons the same way ALS and MS do that shit will fuck you up for life
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>>42082863
retard
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>>42082875
took too much DNP eh stephen hawking? what size adult diapers do you shit into?
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Might want to up the aromasin bitch, I think the estrogen is getting to you
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>>42082610
ive seen that when ive searched on the net
so no certainty on that then
its just hearsay
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>>42082969
it's not "hearsay" it's "it happens to some and not to others"
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>>42082610
Muh HTPA
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>>42082668
He said that without asking for tests? Had the same problem at that age and my endo put me on TRT for life my bru.
You have to pressure and let him know things are not ok, if he cant help you than youre sorry but looking for someone who can,
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>>42082267
Found the retard.
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>>42083017
im not gonna fucking wait 7 years until my body can look good wtf
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>>42082906
Source? Really interested.
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does high estrogen make you jealous and obsessive? I understand women more after running out of AI for a week
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>>42083512
nah, nigga.....u just a bitch
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>>42083559
shut the FUCK up nerd

I was fine until adding dbol to my cycle and now I'm emotional
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>>42083235
you do whatever you want, I'm not your mom dude
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Natty here. What are the pros and cons of running a test only cycle?
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>>42083632
read the op, retard
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>>42080965

im waiting till my 19th birthday to start gear. (around the corner)

Test E for 12 weeks, Anavar for 6 weeks. Clomid 4 week post cycle.

I wanna gain mass but stay somewhat lean
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>>42083632
Cheaters never win, natty anon.
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>>42082863
That can happen but only at high does or prolonged usage; same with damage to the optic nerve. Stop taking it right away if numbness occurs in fingers or toes.
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Decided I'm tired of being a pussy and not talking to cute girls I see in public.

Gonna go to a busy spot in my area and introduce myself/try and start a conversation with at least ten attractive girls. More if I'm feeling confident.

Sounds like a good plan? After I get used to introducing myself I can start asking for phone numbers/dates. Will probably improve the quality of woman I get if I broaden the number I talk to.
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>>42082610
Provide literally any case study on this happening or shut the fuck up you fearmongering retard
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just finished 12 weeks with 500mg tren 200mg test
today started right into 3 weeks of sdrol with 500mg test 800mg eq
i call it the uppercut to jab
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Hair loss experts, does dying your hair increase hair loss? I'm blond and want to see what black hair is like. Does it matter if I get it done at an actual barber shop/haircutters or do the little packs from Walgreens work fine?
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>>42083907
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23764075
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19068689

Why not try doing some research for yourself?
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>>42083911
Hey I just frontloaded 500/800 test e/eq this last week.

Never done this much eq before, wanted to run it because it has very little issues with aromatization, no prolactin, and increases collagen synthesis. Definitely want to grow, though. Does 800mg eq provide a decent boost to mass building or should I go with 1.2g/week instead? Or should I increases test/add in deca?

Wanna be monster sized
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>>42083946
Are you a qt3.14? Do you want to be my gf?
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>>42083686

Is that to say damage doesn't occur at all at lower doses or could it be a sort of gradation where the damage happens at lower doses but its to minor to notice immediately?

Will nerve damage heal completely given time?
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>>42083911
What is the point of doing 3 weeks of EQ? It will barely be in your system after 3w and do almost nothing in that short period of time. If anything you should have done test/EQ/sdrol then test/EQ/tren. Why are you bothering to run 500 test anyways? Test is garbage.
Did you do any research?
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>>42083946
IIRC making your hair darker shouldn't hurt it, it's only bleaching it that affects hair quality. Definitely not an expert tho.
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>>42083956
EQ isn't going to add mass unless you're running it 16+ weeks. Deca is great for size, test is mediocre for anything. Keep it at a baseline 200 because anything higher reduces collagen synthesis and inhibits tendon recovery.
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>>42083953
I mean specifically someone unable to recover their hpta with medical treatment (pct) because they started too young.

Your links are irrelevant. One started at 25 years of age, your own cutoff point, the other is just stating the obvious: a percentage of hypogonadal men used aas.
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>>42083964
blond is male, blonde is female fag.
>>42083983
thanks mate
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>>42083956
i've only done eq one other time before. i did 800mg and i was shocked how much i grew on it.
i'm not that huge by any means but i gained definite size on that dose. i was always under the assumption you had to run at least a gram, but if it's good, 800mg will get you there.
>>42083967
>did you do your research
i've been on gear for like 6 years you dolt, relax.
3 weeks of sdrol, not eq.
eq will be for about 4 months
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>>42083994
Number one, frontloaded so blood levels are at peak in 2 weeks not 8+. Number two, test is near universally considered the best aas for mass building.
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>start suicide cut
>out of ephedrine
>too lazy to go buy it
>"whatever i don't need it this time, don't like being stimmed out of my mind anyway"


nope

day 2 of cut, going to buy that shit right now, not possible to starve without it
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>>42083994
I understand what frontload means anon. You can try frontloading EQ all you want, it's still slow as shit. It's meant for endurance anyways.
Deca outstrips test for mass building by far. Pretty sure any nandrolone does. trenbolones and masterones are meant for size and stength. Boldenones are meant for power and endurance. It's why they were used for racehorses in the 70s.
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>>42084022
kinda tempted to frontload the eq i'm sitting on now. if i were to, how much should i pin/wk and how long?
my method the past year is keep switching out compounds, i don't think i've front loaded maybe ever
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>>42084105
>>42084022
Woops misreply
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>>42084038
I stopped using eph after like a week just cus it was annoying to take 3x a day. Still doing -1000kcals and dnp for 4 weeks now
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>>42080965
Hey, can I ask a noob question?

Does anyone here know what the effects of micro dosing test would be?
What's a normal test cycle, and what would you consider a "micro" dose?
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>>42084129
uhh yeah i am currently at -1300kcals without ephedrine + 250mg dnp

i am talking literal starvation, at the end of my last dnp cut i was literally winding up at a 2.2k deficit NOT counting the dnp, because I was also doing an hour of cardio a day and only eating 1g/lbm in protein
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>>42084148
150-200 is roughly trt. So maybe 250-300 would be what you consider a micro dose? Normal cycle is 500 for beginners.

>>42084161
How much do you think the eph makes a difference? I run 250 dnp during the week and 400 on weekends.
Was that deficit on top of lifting? You cruising as well?
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>>42083967
>>42083994
>>42084105
>test is shit
>not more than 200 test
>thinks there is more than one "nandrolone"

what the fuck is going did you graduate in momscience and forgot to post your degree
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>>42084244
Thanks for answering that, presumably you've ran 500 (mg?) Test when you were new in this. Can you describe how that makes you feel?
Obviously you gain muscle faster. But I'm interested in other effects I could expect from it.

I'm wondering what trt dose levels would feel like in a relatively healthy middle aged man.
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>>42084005
You didnt answer my question ;)
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>>42084115
I literally just googled "how to frontloaded" and found a post on r/steroids

For test e, first two pins do 2x dose. For eq, first four pins do 2x dose. Check it out on steroid calc
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>>42084264
Are you literally retarded?
>nandrolone propionate
>nandrolone phenylpropionate
>nandrolone decanoate
>nandrolone laurat
If you don't know the effects of test above 200 then you need to lurk more and actually do research. Where are chem and brick when you need them, Holy fuck.
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>>42084244
Ephedrine makes all the fucking difference, I would take it up to 4-5x a day. Removes hunger and makes it possible to not be bed ridden on 0 carbs 0 fats, and actually makes u feel good while doing that kind of starvation

Lifting was twice a week just enough to spare strength and muscle, like the main compounds then a little isolation each day.
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>>42084341
Kill yourself
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>>42084341
ever heard of esters?
an ester doesnt fucking change the steroid
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>>42084266
I've run 500 which I upped to 700 after 10w. It feels amazing but you get a lot of water retention going that high.
You could cruise 200 forever and you would feel like a new man.
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>>42084341
I would actually like to see what those two have to say. Every big bb forum almost always praises test as THE mass builder, nandrolone is brought in when you can't handle the sides from adding more test.

Four horsemen: test, deca, dbol, adrol
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>>42084376
>thinking npp and deca are the same
Kek m8
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>>42084380
Would indefinite cruising decrease the natural production of Test, 'causing the testicles to atrophy?

Would it not be prudent to cycle even at low levels?

What are the reasons you don't cruise at higher levels of 500-700 (are we talking mg here?)?

Is there some good reading material for the basics? I always see these threads on here, do you guys have an info paste bin? I feel like I'm asking a bunch of simple questions that have probably already been answered.
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>>42084357
I'm still lifting 4x a week, cardio 5x a week @2150 cals. I think I might start taking the eph again and drop to 1800.
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>>42084431
You can always recover natural test. Any time you're on roids your testicle will atrophy because they're not producing test. They go back to normal once you're off.
Also because being in a blast dose affects your body negatively after long periods of time. That's why people cycle or blast and cruise.
Google fraud pastebin. There's one out there but it can't be linked or the thread gets deleted.
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>>42084431
Read the op
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>>42084392
as someone else already stated
kys
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>>42084435
I don't see a point in lifting more than i need to not lose anything though, not like i am gonna gain anything while eating under 1k cals
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>>42084431
It would. Sooner or later if the balls atrophy enough they stop producing enough test.
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>>42084600
>>42084480
>>42084479
Thanks guys, I'll do some reading.
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>>42083671
thanks for the blog
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>>42084341
you realize chem is the one who keeps parroting test above 200mg is a waste and that you should just introduce other better compounds, right?
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What was your first cycle and how much LBM did you put on?
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>>42084765
Yeah, which is exactly what I was saying you nig.
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>>42084783
oh if it wasn't clear, chem is a fucking retard
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Chem is a small manlet, he is pretty AESTHETIC but why would his opinion carry weight over the consensus?
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>>42084859
input of people who look good >>> consensus of autistic retards on 4chan injecting steroids to be virgins watching anime blowing loads into sex toys
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>>42085163
Don't you dare bully jerry-sama
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>>42085241
Jerry has at least touched a woman.
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On my off cycle, i have been doing some experiments with HGH, essentially i am on a 1/2iu a day of Nordi and its making my mental health better, like a test cycle did, and my sleep is amazing, and skin is super good at the moment,
(got bloods before i started and bloods recently and tested for pituitary disorders nothing out of the normal)

So why on essentially a replacement dose of HGH i feel way better than normal, and no not placebo because i came off and checked went back to feeling like shit and lethargic.
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>>42085163
with all the gear chem blasted anyone would look decent. remember his 2g/2mg mtren "liver protection:jesus loves me" blast?

i like chem and he is knowledgable but a fucking yolo retard and you shouldnt gloriefy him
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rate my blast

16 weeks
600mg test
300mg masteron
1,000mg EQ
50mg proviron, 1 month
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Is balconybros routine any good for a fraudster?
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>>42085445
high bp low gains

seems like this "blast" was made by a pussy scared of side effects
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>>42085522
>roiding for this

if you also wanna
>roid for this
then sure

pretty sure he posted that he is like 138lbs at 5'7 or something
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Im cutting for 1 more month on 200mg of test and tren ew and am going to continue running this dose throughout August as I reverse diet and maybe recomp a pound or two in the process. My main goal is to be juicy as possible for when I go to Japan (end of August) so I'm wondering if I should throw some sdrol in for the last 3-4 weeks leading up to my trip even though im going to be eating slightly under and at maintenance calories? I have enough left over for like 26 day at 20mg Ed or 17 days at 30mg Ed.
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>>42085549
I thought he was Natty though. I was going to basically do everything he has listed at 5x12 for insane amount of volume.
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>>42085611
>while still microscopic, proportionally his traps and delts are his biggest muscles, and he has roid dickskin
>thought he was natty
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>>42085582
Sdrol is a great polisher.

Dry and fills you to the brim with insane pumps. I don't find much mass from it. I'd only run it to look good while on it, not to look good weeks after.

Japs are small just be cut up as fuck and you'll slay ez.
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>>42085629
Mostly it's those pics with the distinctive redness in upper chest and delt veins.
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>>42085522
That is such a shit split. The chest day hits your anterior delts/tris then they get hit again next day with all the shoulder shit, then right again with the next day doing tris. Not to mention doing 5 fucking curl variations right before a back day.

>delet this
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1-Should I cut when not on roids?
2-Bulk cycle (15 weeks on) September to December and cut cycle (10 weeks) may to july. Is it good?

I ask this because i want to be big + lean for next summer. Getting big is simple and straightforward, but i don't know how to get lean while not losing that hard-earned, expensive muscle.

So I don't really know what to do to get ready for next summer.
A- Cut cycle with normal tdee-20%
B- Aggressive cut cycle (+psmf and/or +eca)
C- A without roids
D- B without roids (looks stupid)
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>>42085800
1. You can cut without roids, they just help to preserve muscle mass.

2. If you know you're gonna be on for that long it makes more sense to just BnC for that period of time. Why cycle off if you plan to get right back on a few months after.
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>>42085800
Want to get big for next summer. Omfg you sound like such a banal motherfucker. Jesus, why would you even bother just for looking good at the whole one pool party you'll attend.

Wants to look good for summertime... fuck me...
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Do you guys all do bloodwork like you're supposed to? The thought of adjusting ai dosages based on "how you feel" doesn't seem like a very well thought out plan.
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>>42086028
why not if it works perfectly
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>>42086028
I've never gotten bloods and I've bnc for 2 years now
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>fraud pastebin

Ok I read through this whole thing, but it basically just gives you very simple instructions on procedures.

I'd like get more in depth knowledge, can anyone recommend more reading, for people who are curious about the inter-workings of these compounds, the finer details, etc. ?
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>>42086092
>r/steroids/
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>>42086092
read the op, retard
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>>42085990
Looking good for summer is not really a necessity. Adquiring a good aesthethic body is for me, no matter the time of the year. But being able to show it is a nice plus don't you think?
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>>42086092
Lleyewllyn's anabolics
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>>42085368
Am genuinely interested. Tell me more
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Anyone notice an increase in assertiveness after starting?
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>mfw im taking phlebotomy classes and classmates are wondering why i am so comfortable with getting stuck by needles
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>>42086103
Thanks I'm already reading.

>>42086140
hurr

>>42086202
This is what I was looking for, thanks.
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>>42086250
In what parts?

Its really strange, i am still waiting on the IGF to return, but i have been on 1iu of Nordi a day EOD for 40+days and noticed the changes in the first week, (GF noticed after a week my moods were less erratic)
my GH returned 3.6ug/l normal range is <5 (still waiting on IGF1) IGF before was 25 normal range under 40 or 50 or something.

Will continue experimenting with different GH like china bathtub quality when i get back from holidays, and i wont be using on holiday so i will be interested to see what happens off too!
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>>42086363
>hurr
?

go read the fucking wiki in the op you mongoloid
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>>42086314
they know
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>>42086368
Didn't even realise that 1iu would produce substantial results. Although I know fuck all about HGH, IGF and all of that
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>>42086452
Its Essentially HGH rt rofl.
I dont think i have noticed much in the way of body results, or anything like that. but holy shit i would pay that shit for the amount it did for my moods and mental stability. Lol
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>>42086399
hurr, as in I'm already reading it, retard.

Can I ask for people in real time to give recommended reading material? fuck off, and don't reply to me or my son ever again
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>>42086462
What country and how much is it costing?
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>>42086483
read the op again

it says to read it all before you ask any of your retarded questions, retard
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>>42086502
hurr
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>>42086493
The same island you live on.

A LOT for the pharma stuff, 400ish for 45ish IU. but the chinese stuff is a Fuckton Cheaper.
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>>42085990
>i roid for a higher cause
fuck off, fagot
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>>42086615
Convict island is best island.

Are you getting it domestic?
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>>42086686
Fuck no, i'm not paying 1K for 72 IU pharma (like ive seen
Run the GAMBIT M8 whats the worst you can do, like get a letter and it lost? Not like they gonna chase you for like 200IU of Growth, although there was someone on Chad-Bay selling UGL for quite cheap domestic, but no bloods to back it up or analysis or anything
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>>42086706
I say that then pay around 400ish for 45 rofl.
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>>42086728
Worth it?
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>>42086761
Havnt tried my chinese stuff yet, but overall, for the issues i have had, yes x1000 (natural low test endo wont TRT me and i have not gone on TRT yet, because i want to find the actual cause - seeing a neuro for a possibilty in Jan next year Urgh) Want something to fix without doing another mild to low test cycle

Sex drive/moods/attitude/all better. Also using Melanotan but used that before and that makes no difference to said things. thats just for the pre holiday tan with the solarium ;)
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>>42086798
Also quicker recovery from being a degenerate and using on the weekend rarely.
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Talking to co-worker
>"Nah I don't do stimulants anymore, I like them too much"

And the other co-worker next to me turns and goes
>"did you say steroids?"
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>>42086916
>talking about any sort of drug use at work

Wew buddy enjoy your meeting with HR
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>>42086916
>>42086935
kek, this.
whenever i'm asked about my fitness i just say i actually lift and actually eat right.
you'd be amazed how fat and lazy people are irl
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hows my cut sound;
500mg of dnp ed (thermogenic)
50-100mg of methamphetamine ed as needed (appetite supressant and energy booster)
100-300 diphenhydramine as needed (for sleep)

while on 1200mg of test for anti catabolic effect

eating 500 calories a day of just protein and liquids
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>>42087176
>while on 1200mg of test for anti catabolic effect
kys

>500 calories a day
not gonna happen
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I need to stop buying

I'm going to have about 2-3 year supply soon
I'm becoming addicted to the gear
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>>42087200
I know that feel, my place is a fucking pharmacy
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Think I've decided on my stack for my next blast. The general idea is "get fucking huge, lift heavy, don't get fat, and don't destroy your joints":

- 50mg Trest ED
- 75mg Tren Ace ED
- 50mg NPP ED
- Caber (dosage based on bloods)
- Adex (dosage based on bloods)

Might up the Tren to 100mg, or add in a little Test P at maybe 25mg to make it an even 200mg/day. Still not sure yet. Regardless, shit's gonna be insane.
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>>42087281
I would STRONGLY STRONGLY recommend getting asin instead of adex if you're gonna run trest

but you do you
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If I just got a tiny bit of a lump, like pea size, if I get my estro in check, is it a problem since it's not visible? Will it go away?
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>>42087306

I do have a good amount of Asin on hand as well, but I have a prescription for Adex and can get a whole bottle for $6, so my plan was to see if I could dial in a dosage with that first. If E2 on Trest proves to be too much for the Adex to handle, I can switch immediately to the Asin that I have.
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>>42087281
Whats the shortest tren cycle you can run?
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>>42087306
Why asin?

Its more expensive no? Is it better than adex?
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>>42087393
Asin is generally better than adex because adex will give you hard rebound.
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>>42087281
Have letro and ralox on hand or be prepared to drop the trest
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>>42087393
asin is not only stronger, it's much easier to fuck around with dosage to properly dial in e2 than with adex
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>>42087516
Yea

I actually have asin the thing is I haven't used it yet, only test for now and running hrt doeses
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What source do you guys use for blood work? I have one I've been using but they don't have the test results im looking for

such as free test, total, sbg and e2 etc.. cant find these testing services
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What do you guys think of quad tattoos, like on the femorus

>>42087428
Asin is also kinder on lipids

>>42085163
I got a new daki that pairs up super well with the silicone implants.
One side is azusa undressing school girl outfit, the other is from the back partially stripped in school swimsuit.
The breasts would be at the same spot for both sides.
Im blowong serious loads
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>>42087516

Has that been your experience? What happens if you take too much and crash your E2? Takes a lot longer to come back from that on Asin than it does on Adex...
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>>42085163
Hmm,

That might be so

However, I'm not one of these autists/neets
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>>42087607
Please just set-up your tinder profile and talk to some girls jerry
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>>42087634
>implying you can set up a tinder profile with no friends to take pictures with
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Sorry for babbys first post but if I want to add deca to my 1 year blast and cruise cycle of test e how would I go about doing that?
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>>42087547
all the online tests you can order cover fuck all of the spectrum.
You want a full hormone panel, lipids and full blood counts.
Depending on what country you are in it's normally easiest to just go to your doctor.
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>>42087650
Just start injecting deca once a week.
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>>42087650
inject it


>>42087657
completely false and 100% wrong
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>>42087657
No insurance right now

Wish I could go to a doc...

I'll have a insurance in 3 months

make over 100k, no insurance yet per company policy
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>>42087634
I got a lit pic for it but I cant figure out what to put as the bio
So instead ive been playing summer lesson and making sweet love to my pillow wife

>>42087648
Wow rude.
Ill have you know I have at least 4 friends

>>42087650
Pin deca with the test
And buy caber
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>>42087621
fwiw I recovered pretty quickly the one time I managed to crash it, but I was also on dbol so.. ymmv.

the easy solution is to just not crash it

>>42087648
group pictures are frowned upon. I have all solo pics on tinder and I do great. I even used to have all selfies for a while and I still did fine, but I upgraded and do much better now
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>>42087684
How do you know your e2 crashed? You feel it or you have to get bloods and only way to tell?
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>>42087672
What's the deal with american health care? Is the issue just that you need insurance or are general consultations that ridiculously expensive?
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>>42087690
for me it was my joints, I immediately felt it. popped dbol, was fine a couple days later
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>>42085539
ahahahahaha

yeah dude SIDE EFFECTS cant get enough of em amirite
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>>42087683
i was talking about myself faggot i have no life, besides gym progress pictures i don't have a picture of myself from the past 5 years or so unless you count my drivers license

>>42087684
oh really they are? i thought if someone had a profile without at least one they would look like a fucking loser
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>>42086301
nope!
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>>42087691
Na, I have the money I'm just a lazy bitch

Also, this company doesn't want to give insurance as soon as you start so after a few months they give you some really good insurance. The thing with me its been 5 months with this company and in 3 months my insurance kicks in... The dont really want people coming to the company, they spend a bunch of money on insurance and than you leave to another company. Kind of like a probation period..

I might stop taking test E and just get with a doc on a test cyp cycle since its cheaper...
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>>42087699
>ahh a little tren would fucking KILL me, afterall look at all those reddit stories!!!!! id lose my hair, become a roid raging 5% bf while binging icecream and pizza serial killer, and start raping everything in sight!!!

>better stack fuckloads of all this different shit that doesn't do anything instead!
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>>42087717
That makes sense. I've heard (on tv so who knows) that if people no they are getting fired they just cash in on all those benefits.

If all you after is HRT it makes sense to just let the doc do it.
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>>42087721
actually yeah, tren would be awful for me. I already take 3 meds for asthma and dont need anything fucking with my sleep. I never said my goal was to look good either (although that is the goal). I want to feel good and look good.

dont get me wrong man.

I wish I could take cattle hormones.

But for now its just equine hormones (bold).

Not to mention 95% of guys running tren could get better results using other compounds, lime primo or mast.
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>>42087683
If you're 6' or above put that even if you're 6' in shoes.
Say what you have a bachelors in and then say studying a masters in whatever you study.
If you have a prestigious sounding job title, or can make your job title sound prestigious, put that.
If you have a non-weeb hobby, like your hiking, put that.

Example
>6'1
>Bachelors in Austim/ Studying Masters in Traps
>Head of Faggot Department
>Come on a hike with me

I'm completely making this up because i don't know how tinder works.
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>>42087734
HRT for now

Upping my dose once I drop more body fat

I had low test and started researching...
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>>42087735
>>Not to mention 95% of guys running tren could get better results using other compounds, lime primo or mast.


that's what people who are too gay to use X compound say about X compound. whether it's paupers in regards to HGH, baldlets and pussies in regards to tren, or natties in regards to AAS in general

its a dumb ass statement.
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>>42087747
bios are easy, just put a dumb joke in there and mention anything that puts you above the other plebs

>>42087703
group pictures are incredibly hard to pull off. basically if you have one you have to be the most attractive of the bunch, tallest, etc, and it has to be pretty much only one picture because nobody likes playing where's waldo

solo's better, they just need to be good pictures. high quality, don't look like selfies (protip: camera stand) and show off your cool life, your nice body, etc

but seriously my #1 tip with tinder for everyone thinking about it is JUST TRY IT. I started with shitty grainy selfies and I could still pull girls every now and then. I upgraded my pics later on and I got much more success, but I was still pulling with a suboptimal bio, suboptimal pics, etc
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>>42087748
A few guys on here get HRT and after the first few months the doctors start to chill and they can do mini blasts inbetween blood screenings.
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>>42087773
aka pay 5x as much, to have an annoying ass doctor monitoring you for steroid use
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Paging CatPiss

Check that throwaway bruh
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>>42087735
Bang for your buck tren is the king. Primo/mast and all that other designer shit is awesome but 500mg of tren e will cost a fraction and give you insane results. But yeah definantely not a QOL drug
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>>42087750
enjoy running tren and looking like dog shit AND being unhealthy
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>>42087803
enjoy being a fucking freak who needs to take 3 different asthma medications
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>>42087786
That's true but everyone's circumstances are different.
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>>42087772
first part was meant for >>42087683 not >>42087747

your profile already has your education and work information pulled from your facebook so you don't need to include that in your bio
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>>42087747
thats actually not bad
weeb shit works really well for fat black girls though

>>42087816
thats so out of date lol
what do I put in there then, my height?
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>>42087861
fat nerdy black girls are the most desperate for the thick white weaboo cock
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>>42087861
>thats so out of of date
well update it on facebook then

have you considered giving yourself a chance and not making 3 of your pics your daki? also I have no idea what that 3rd one is supposed to be.

I already said, dumb joke + whatever makes you look better than the other plebs on tinder. I actually don't know your height if you've ever mentioned it. if it's above 6'0'', include it. I mean if you're looking for a likeminded dirty weeb/nerd girl your bio is actually kinda funny, but if you actually want to fuck the tinder thots you need to do better

>tfw you want to help jerry but he doesn't want to help himself
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>>42087915
>thick
good thing I delete my tinder almost immediately everytime

>>42087947
thats like 3 years old lol
Ive made real ones since

ill just do height and education
let my face do the talking ;)
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anyone who runs insulin?
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>>42088216
Diabetics
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>>42088216
not here, no. it's a bit too much for the goals most people in this thread have. there's some limited information in the OP link however
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>>42088216
probably chem has experimented with it
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>>42083956
Test 750/deca 600/EQ 900

Comfiest size blast ever you're welcome daddy kahuna always here for you
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>>42088354
What's going on?
Still natty atm?
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>>42088369
Hi friendo

Yes, working lots of hours. Just got 60 days clean and getting back into training. Overall life is pretty comfy. Borrowed some cash from gf to get car insurance and registration and all that but new job pays good so once checks start rolling in gonna get back on test and sdrol.

How's your life
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>>42088403
Nice, good to hear your back on track.

Could be better, trying to decide whether I wanna add another compound into my test/tren/sdrol blast or just up the tren instead
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>>42088442
EQ for delts and veinz cmon now. Or var.
Not memesteron pls

When my money is stabilized I'll try another ultraKahuna stack too. Just gotta pick what to run.

Now I'm just being cheap and sticking to Test/sdrol cause bang for buck
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Man what the fuck. I pinned VGs for like 3 months without ever running into an issue but now whenever I do, the site stays really hard for over a week. Pinning into this feels like I'm gonna fuck my shit up
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>>42088478
was thinking Deca but 2 19nors... Whats a good start point for EQ?

trest deca cmon!

nothing wrong with test.
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>>42088485
Fuck it, can't pin into this shit. Feels like scar tissue but I'm guessing it isn't because it does end up healing after like ten days.

Guess it's time to twist and turn to pin my ass solo
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>>42088514
do you not have quads or delts? might want to see a doctor about that m8 sounds serious
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>>42088491
I was doing test500/tren600/deca300 for awhile and liked it, but 19nors never gave me any issue to begin with.

Trest scares tf out of me to be honest. I'll probably do 100adrol/250test/600tren/900eq. I'm prescribed a ton of bp meds so whatever

I love EQ at 900, totally gives me the freaky look I like. Full, veiny and always get tons of compliments.
Just hate the volume of oil, I do one 3cc pin of it a week usually. Frontload too.
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>>42088525
That sounds like a serious stack, especially the drol.

I'll assess pricing on eq then. lol if I start EQ now im probably going to end up running tren for like 22 weeks. rip me
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>>42088519
Quads scare me shitless, I never want the feeling of hitting a nerve while a needle is inside my leg. As for delts, well I just don't understand the site. I can't feel a muscle to pin into while fucking around with my fingers there unlike with every other site.

For the doctor thing, the sites are perfectly fine if I don't pin them for over a week. They heal up 100% and feel fine to the touch, it's just that if I pin and then I go to pin again before the ten days are up it feels like there's a "layer" of... something. Feels hard to the touch. I think if I just stop pinning there it'll be all fine.
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>>42088553
>22 weeks of tren
Oh hell yeah

Orals in general always disappoint me. Brick has been hyping me up about injectable sdrol or mtren. May give one of them a go with just 250 test.

I live in a sober house so I'm tryna have as few things to stash as possible ya know
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>>42088553
Retain a lawyer in advance of your impending arrest
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>>42088597
I don't bother with orals because a decent dose kills my liver and makes me feel like dogshit anyway. What ester do the attach to injectables or do you pin them ED?

I love having my own place now. Dont have to hide shit
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>>42088587
you know that part of your shoulder that sticks out? that's the muscle breh, how can you not find your delts.

I hit a nerve in quads half the time and just keep pushing it really doesn't feel like anything more than a pinch and a muscle spasm
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>>42088620
Nah man when the fuzz comes round and tries to arrest me i'll just hit em with the old "caught all the kiddy rapists already boiz?" B)
No worries
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>>42088649
Obviously I know where my delts are, but to the touch it all feels like bone or something, I can't feel the muscle with my fingers like I can in the quads/vgs/glutes/bis/tris
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>>42088646
It'd be pin ED which is a pain. I always do long esters.
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>>42088597
Really? Anadrol is bae. What have you run?
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>>42087947
It's okay. I'm in a similar situation to Jerry and your posts are helping me.

I swear y'all are gonna see a post about me losing my virginity exclusively because of tren.
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>>42088354
Too much fucking oil at that point. I may add in 300mg deca for joints extra collagen and potential small boost to mass. I know 300mg won't fuck with my prolactin.

Good to know others like the test/high eq though, makes me excited to see what it'll do for me.
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>>42088693
If your delts are that small you probably shouldn't be roiding
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Next blast I want to run mast to keep some of the water retention bloof away.

What is the least amount I can run to get this effect?
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>>42089086
Just manage your e2 correctly.
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>>42088478
how tall are you kahuna, ill like to think i look like you only a little fatter but thats probably just my delusions
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Pinned and bled everywhere

REEEEEEEEEE
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>>42088478
>>42088525
have you considered cutting

lel
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Just started 500mg test, 400mg deca and 30mg dbol kickstart. First time running deca and I hope I dont get dat acne bust
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>tfw lung infection since 6 days ago
>breathing is fune but theres ridic pain on my right ribs and core if i do anything, even lying down aggravates it


the only thing i can do is literally just concentration curls for an hour, anything elae aggravates my ribs.

my gains brah, my fuxkin gains
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SST is terrible and I miss when we could talk sources here.

*screams*

Anyway, how's life faggots?
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>>42088943

It means he definitely SHOULD be.
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what up
about to get on a cycle of test e 375/e4d
im thinking about adding dbol though, either as a kickstart or mid cycle.
at what dose and duration should i be taking dbol?

goal with cycle is to build lean mass. im a 100kg with abs
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Why is it that when talking about your first cycle people instantly ask for amount of time you've been lifting, your lifts, starting weight and bodyfat? Is it some sort of high horse deal? There seems to be some consensus that dyels shouldn't start until they've hit or are close to hitting their natural limit.

the result is going to be the same regardless of the amount of time someone has been training.
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>>42090325
Being fat isn't good and you need more AI if you're fat. You should know how to eat and train first, otherwise yeah it's just elitism and faggotry.
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>>42090325
if you stick around long enough you'll see a common trend of people who dont understand anything and want to just jump on. No time spent of diet, routine, sleep, a lot wont stick through it.

To a degree there is a bit of damage control going on with deterring a certain type of person from using steroids, because they will fuck up and the blame will be on the substance rather than the retard who used it incorrectly.

There is also the aggravation caused when they wont do basic research, which is often provided in the OP.
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>>42090365
well then let them grow bitch tits and learn their lesson
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>>42090075
there is literally nothing wrong with sst
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>>42090325
Because beginners are more likely to suffer from tendon injuries or just straight snap their shit up from putting on too much strength to quickly and using incorrect form.
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order arrived

>tfw accidentally ordered just stoppers and caps for 10ml vials but not vials

fug, where can I order just the vials? (standard 10ml 20mm - glass bottles are not illegal)
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>>42090820
literally amazon
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>>42088911
Whos you're waifu
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So i never experienced "roid rage" on my first cycle that i just did, but i am alot more irritable on pct. Already had a few situations where I've "snapped" and thrown shit or flipped the table in my house. On the plus side, my seemingly well planned pct plus these excessive random outbursts of autistic rage keeps my gym mindset going strong, and still progressing after 5 weeks off.
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how much lean mass is typically kept after coming off of a test only cycle?
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>>42091145
>never experienced "roid rage"
>thrown shit or flipped the table in my house
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>>42091014
Nippon though not U.S.

Can find them on ebay and aliexpress (with stoppers and vials already), cheap enough I suppose, but feels like Im gonna waste these existing stoppers and caps.
>>
Hey ausfags

does anyone know how the fuck to get adderall in this country?
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>>42091105
what site is this lol
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is there a way females can subconciously feel extra testosterone or tren in your body?

on tren and had the freakiest, wettest, nastiest sex ever yesterday, it was like my whole upperbody was lubed up from her, i was balls deep with her legs up against my body, choking, spitting in her face and bitch slapping her

tren is fucking amazing
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>>42082784
I'm the same way brother, I wonder what is wrong with us.
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>>42091163
2.59684493KG. This is a precise calculation. Approved by science.


>>42091345
No faggot, they like the pumped hard dick and the dominance like all woman.

this is your first time sex, isn't it.

everybody give this guy props, he just lost his virginity
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>>42091270
you get an alternative because Adderall isn't making it into Australia

Ritalin, vysance, dextroamphetamines (d5)... or speed
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>>42090325
>the result is going to be the same regardless of the amount of time someone has been training.
then why don't see any results from people over here? They just look the same like before they started.

You see my point
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>>42091370
pfft.. Ill make you my bitch for a vial of peptides
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>>42091345
Sounds like normal sex brother
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>>42091400
yeah i guess the thing i didnt emphasise was that i was doing all the normal stuff but it was a ton wetter than usual
>>
>go to beach
>wear tank top all the time
>start to get mires
>chest and shoulders break out bad
>mires stop

Life is pain.
I knew increased acne was related to starting gear, I just expected it to take longer and not happen in like 2 days.

>>42091412
lol she pissin bruh
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>>42091399
You should keep it for yourself, since you need it more than me.

>>42091423
pics, or stop posting this bullshit.
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>>42091412
My lady gets super wet and squirts too. She likes to lick it off my abs, dick or face depending. She'll also scoop my cum out and smear it on her face or lick it from her fingers.
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>>42091451
I'm not posting pics of girls pissing, that's not my kink. But you do you man.
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How's life bitches?

>>42091481
2kinky4me
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>>42091190
This is my pct bro i was saying that thought the anger came on cycle
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>>42091481
squirt is literally piss
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>>42089412
6' 3-4 depending on the weather

>>42089750
I'll cut when I'm big enough meanie
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>>42091738
This guy gets it.

>>42091781
>implying you will ever be big enough
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>>42080965
>hows my cut sound;
>500mg of dnp ed (thermogenic)
>50-100mg of methamphetamine ed as needed (appetite supressant and energy booster)
>100-300 diphenhydramine as needed (for sleep)
>
>while on 1200mg of test for anti catabolic effect
>
>eating 500 calories a day of just protein and liquids

Pls be bait.
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>>42087311
It should
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do girls have to pct off a light anavar cycle? I know a women who complains that she has no sex drive and I'm going to just throw them at her.
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>>42091781
>6' 3-4 depending on the weather
Kek. Iktf
My DL says 6'3", I think I'm 6'2" though.
6'4 in boots. Lol
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>>42091871
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>>42091866
It might fuck with them a bit. But the hormone fluctuations arn't going to be Estrogen based so pct isn't going to help iirc
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>>42091874
forgot your name ann
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>>42091355
no clue but it sucks. wish I could pop cialis and just be ready for 48 hours, instead I have to stealthily take the viagra like 30 minutes before I have sex
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>>42091738
And? I eat ass too. You expected sex to be clean and sterile?
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>>42091897
I didn't forget.
I was being Ann onymous.
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>>42091937
That was terrible
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What is the recimended 1st dose.
And what woukd hapoen if i roid to the natty limit and then stop roiding but remain lifting?
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has anyone run into this brand of clen before? googled it but cant find any info on whether its legit or not.
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>>42091944
Ikr? I think it's my paternal insufficient instinct kicking in. Gotta make dad jokes.

>>42091945
500 test/wk +maybe a Kickstart oral.

You'll lose some gains of cycle, how much depends on a lot of things.
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>>42091970
Would I only use Test for that to work?
Been lifting for 4 years but as a 6'7 lanket its hard to really see the gains
>>
I started doing 125 mg of test e EOD about 3 weeks ago. I didn't do enough research before starting and I started at 20% bodyfat(I am aware I should have cut first.) I have been eating a LOT and have gained a good amount of weight, but my BF% doesn't appear to have changed much, just adding muscle. My question is:
If I cut down on my calorie intake and eat say.. 2500 clean calories a day, being sure to get in enough protein, will my body use my fat to supply the extra energy my body needs to grow my fraud muscles?

Thanks in advance
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>>42091986
The oral is optional. Test would work fine. The reason people use an oral is because it takes weeks for the test to build up in your system, and an oral gives almost immediate results.

Mirin hieght.
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>tfw week 4 on TRT
>tfw mood improved and pep in my step
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>>42092017
I've been wondering if it's worth it to start taking an oral later on in the cycle as opposed to the very beginning. I know it's used to kickstart noticeable gains, but what would be the effect of taking it in the second half of a cycle as opposed to the first part?

I'm sure this has been asked before, I'm just curious.

>>42092041
iktf, been feeling more confident and less depressed since I started. Hopefully it only gets better.
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>>42082550
Closing your growth plates early. You gonna be a manlet if you aren't already huge.
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>>42091517
How are you? I thought you were fucked to death by some twinks

>>42091482
Remotely funny

I mean CB pics fool. The one you think you got all the mires from.
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Dudes, where is the best place to look at cycle logs with pictures? Google searches turn up a fuckton of nothing but "BUY NATURAL TESTOSTERONE PRODUCERS NOW!" with irrelevant pictures and it's fucking annoying.
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>>42092143
I know what you meant, I was just being a dickhole like usual.

I look better than I used to but I still think I look like shit. You guys will probably laugh at me but that's fine, I probably deserve it.
>inb4 "roiding for this"
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>>42092057
You're adding more hormones to your system it's going to have an effect no matter when in the cycle you use it.

>>42092143
Kek
>How are you?
So so, everything but lifting is going good. Natty life is suffering.

Hbu bb? Achieve BOSS LYFE yet?
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>>42092213
>You're adding more hormones to your system it's going to have an effect no matter when in the cycle you use it.
True, I don't know what else I was expecting. Still, thanks for the answer.

Also for some reason that girls left ass cheek looks weird to me.
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>>42092190
I grasp sarcasm AS I AM NOT AUTISTIC like the rest of you. I have a life.

>I look better than I used to
Holy shit, if this is better in your reality then how did you look before. CAN WE EVEN??

COME ONE MAN. I see nothing that indicates that you roid. You look soft, no round delts, no vains, no grainy look, no muscles.

YOU GOT BUNK SHIT MAN, this is yolo all over again.

>>42092213
I thought you said you were on again? You stay natty now for life?

I am under control by Indians. Soon you and the rest of you will be dominated by this cancer that are called pajeets
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>>42092057
the oral itself isn't better at the beginning, middle or end of the cycle, it's just that it's used as a kickstarter to tide you over until testosterone has fully saturated

you'll get gains just as good in the middle of your cycle and you'll also have the advantage of already knowing how you react to test only so you'll be able to identify the sides coming specifically from the oral

so yeah I'd recommend it.
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>>42092236
>COME ONE MAN. I see nothing that indicates that you roid.
he's been on for like two weeks now lol
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>>42092236
I only started like three weeks ago and this is my first cycle. I might be retarded when it comes to roids but I'm pretty sure you don't start seeing a whole lot of results until farther into the cycle.

>COME ONE MAN.
I am but one man, but I do cum quite frequently thank you.

You aren't usually this mean, are you feeling okay
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>>42092190
1st cycle?

>>42092236
>I thought you said you were on again?
I was going to but I decided I wanted to see how far I could get natty. So far the answer is
>Not very far
Been natty for over a year now.
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>>42092267
>You aren't usually this mean, are you feeling okay
lol have you never read a masT post before
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So I switched from vgs to my ass and I was expecting the ass pip to be a lot worse. I feel it but I expected to be like unable to sit properly or something. This is easy peasy.
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>>42092308
Lol mast isn't mean. It's all constructive criticism.
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>>42092282
First cycle, yeah. Sixth pin is later today. Still not over how it feels pushing a needle into muscle but I'm slowly getting better at it.

Also why would you want to see where you can get being natty?

>pic semi related it's natty me from two-ish years ago.

>>42092308
idk he always seemed alright to me.
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>>42092257
Who gave you permission to talk to me? You done sucking his dick or shall be take turns?

>>42092267
I am just being realistic. Look at yourself in the mirror, natties look better than you. You're looking for excuses now.

Give credit where credit is due. I see nothing of value here.

>>42092282
>I was going to but I decided I wanted to see how far I could get natty
Why didn't you think of this before hopping on. Now you're used to the steroids gains.

So you stay off now.
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looking for first mass gain cycle...
test+tren? pct?
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>>42092317
Glutes is the least pip. If you want unreal pip pin calves.
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>>42092335
>Who gave you permission to talk to me? You done sucking his dick or shall be take turns?
(you)
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>>42092335
>You done sucking his dick or shall be take turns?
You can if you like, just know that I have a long refractory period so it might take me about 5 minutes to get hard again.

>I am just being realistic. Look at yourself in the mirror
I do that every morning, how else am I supposed to shave
>natties look better than you.
okay
>You're looking for excuses now.
>"If you don't look like Arnold after two weeks on your first cycle you got bunk shit."
I respect you man but come on.
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>>42092336

350-500mg test/week.
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>>42092012
after 20% (honestly after abs are gone) you dont realize how fat you get anymore. thats also the reason why everyone thinks they are 18% but actually are 28%

you can now cut on 250 test, thats a good muscle sparing dosage, after you got to real 10% upp to 500 and blastbulk away
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>>42089371
You know absolute shit about aas. Water retention occurs regardless of e2 levels when you run loads of test
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>>42092483
Are you suggesting I half my dosage until I cut to 10%body fat and then blast back up to 500 and start bulking? This is my first cycle btw.
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>>42092614
Yes
>>42092335
Whats about the he posts pics credit? Not many do that.

I think masts direct approach is part of his charm. After you withstand the first few direct blows to your face he probably respecfs and likes everyone
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>>42092576
>just realizing now Crusader knows fuck all about anything besides pathetic cuckoldry

you don't say
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>>42092833
I mean it took me like two months to man up and post pics, so I probably don't get credit for that. Also not really looking for respect or anything, just figured it's better to post and get laughed at than to sit back and get laughed at anyway.

I mean I agree with mast on a few of his points. I'm certainly not that big at all, and I'm definitely not that impressive. But I'm better than I used to be, and if I can keep my progress going up in a linear progression, then I'll be happy enough.

Honestly might be a bit sad to say but my little brother and sister told me I look big and strong the other day, so that's really the only validation I need to keep going.
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>>42092968
Crabs in a bucket. To anyone that actually matters in your life, you're amazing. To weird anime nerds that spend hours glorifying the most 1% physiques to have ever existed? You're gonna look lame. It's up to you to decide who you'd rather listen to, however I can guess which is the healthier option. Do you enjoy listening to your family (that shows open admiration) or faceless wannabes knocking down your triumphs?
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>>42092968
dude, you project so much self loathing and "i'm not good enough" pitiful shit that it's not even funny anymore...

if you think steroids are going to fix your low sense of self worth, you're in for a rude awakening

at this point I'd implore you to see a damn therapist
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>>42092335
Hey looking to run mast on my next blast to help keep off the bloat.

What's the minimum I can run and still get a decent effect?
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>>42093002
I don't think it's self loathing to say I'm not super big or impressive, because I'm really not. I'm pretty average for someone who's been going to the gym for a few years. Also like I said, I'm glad I'm better than I used to be and I'd like to continue growing as time goes on.

Also I feel like you're mistaking "low sense of self worth" with "trying to be humble". Yeah I'd love to be the most jacked dude in my gym, but I'm not there at the moment and that's alright. Hopefully I'll get there someday.

>>42092993
I like the opinions of the "weird anime nerds" though because I know they won't lie to me about my progress. Getting told I look like shit is just criticism to help motivate me to be better, and that's okay.
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>>42093002
>therapist
Nice try Shlomo
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>>42093057
>>42093002
>implying I haven't seen many therapists in my youth
If I'm being honest everything they'd prescribe me is shit compared to being active in the gym and starting a cycle. It has only been like three weeks so maybe it's just placebo, but I feel like the test has helped me feel less depressed.
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>>42093079
Therapists generally don't prescribe things. They refer you to a psychiatrist for that. Therapist is usually just talking
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If doing 5/3/1 while using test-e and dbol or anadrol how much could the weight increases be and could i skip rest days? Would anadrol or dbol be a better combination?
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Why does roiding make me want to randomly rape a twink?
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>>42093098
Oh that's right, sorry. Got my medical professionals all mixed up.

>>42093104
I've been told to just keep doing what you've been doing and you'll be fine. Also told to do higher reps for less weight so you don't fuck anything up, but I guess if you do your regular routine and don't have any problems then you're fine.

>>42093112
Because you're gay anon. Welcome to /fit/
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>>42093051
>>42092968
always depends on the ones you compare yourself too.
if i compare myself too some genetic wonders like mast and others then i get depressed.
if i compare myself too others with dead balls and photos from before trt i am kinda proud despite i am still fat as fuck

i think you are doing fine keep it up
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>>42093051
I wasn't going to agree with the anon claiming you're self loathing but this post here frustrates me. This isn't a case of you being astronomically dissonant in your perspective. You aren't fat and asking for outward validation on being in decent shape. You look great by regular standards and yet you seem to think that anons telling you that you look awful is okay. It's worrisome that those opinions would hold more weight than inspiring your siblings. Really think hard dude. The people here lie and they lie often because they need to bring others down. If you enjoy coming here for banter that's cool, but this is in no way shape or form the place for any sort of constructive criticism. If you want reliable criticisms make friends with a competitor at your gym. They'll say the same things I'll say: you hopped on too early, it's a decent base, you have okay insertions and you should eat more.
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>>42093104
You will always need restdays you mong
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>>42080965
Noob question: let's say you do a "beginner" cycle, like Test E for 15 weeks. If you do a proper PCT, and get more calories in to account for the mass gained during the cycle, will you lose muscle mass if you decide to never use again? (Provided you keep lifting of course)
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>>42093192
You will never keep all of them, but you can keep a good amount.
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>>42083235
Or you could just.. You know.. Lift and eat properly until then?
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>>42093192
you can't avoid losing some mass during pct. your test is gonna be nearly crashed for weeks while you recover.
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>>42093112
I'd roids have taught me anything, it's that a hole is a hole. Lol
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>>42083885
Good plan anon, just make sure to call your lawyer beforehand so he isn't surprised when you'll call him again from the police station :-)
Joking aside, "practicing" social interaction (by working a "hostess" job) has done wonders for me, confidence through the roof
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>>42093104
Base it on the amrap sets more or less.

If you get 8-9 on a 90% amrap then you should probably increase the training max until you're hitting closer to 5-6. You want your work sets to be somewhere in the range of 70-85% of your true max (Not your training max).

I would recommend doing fsl for 3-5 sets, and the last one being another amrap. Just to generate more volume, you're on aas remember.

5/3/1 is more about accumulation of skill in your main lifts. After your 5/3/1 sets you should do a ton of accessory volume to allow yourself to accumulate load and grow. Example, after bench 5/3/1 you could do 5x12 of cg bench or db bench, followed up with pec flies and lying triceps extensions. Play around, see how much volume you can tolerate and still have healthy joints/progress in your main lifts.

I wouldn't skip rest days, your body needs rest to grow. Working out is tissue breakdown, eating and sleeping afterwards is what causes growth.
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>>42093168
>and yet you seem to think that anons telling you that you look awful is okay.
That's not what I was trying to imply, so sorry if it came off that way. I think the bants here help keep me motivated and I enjoy the critiques, so it's all good. But overall I do think the opinions of my friends and family hold more weight than anonymous posters.
>If you want reliable criticisms make friends with a competitor at your gym.
Actually I'm friends with three or four people who either compete or did in the past, and they say I'm looking a hell of a lot better than I used to. That doesn't mean I'm gonna stop now because I look good, it just means I'm better than I used to be.
>you hopped on too early, it's a decent base, you have okay insertions and you should eat more.
I can agree with all this stuff, thank you.
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>>42093270
No way you should ever "stop" but taking any opinion here aside from a face value toss away opinion is a mistake. No comment on a cbp in this general has ever held any water.
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>>42093260
Hey about to go to the gym and then go do this. No way the police will be involved, it's a popular tourist area for one, and two I'm literally just going up and introducing myself. As soon as I can sense I'm not wanted around (after the 'what the fuck does this guy want' reaction) I walk away.
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>>42093376
This is easier with social media.

>add a friend of a friend on IG
>comment on her workout pic where she laments over being tall and the struggle with gaining
>"I know that tall struggle too"
>oh my gosh yes! And you're what like 6'4?
>further comments about how every girls dream is a tall guy
>dm her that we should smash, she agrees

It's way easier this way
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>>42093376
What are you planning on doing? Just walk up to them and say "Hi, I'm anon." ?
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>>42093431
Yeah. Maybe if I'm feeling bold I'll explain exactly what I'm doing.

>Hey I'm X how are you guys doing today
>Uh okaaaay... What's up...?
>Yeah I decided that I wanted to get over my fear of talking to girls I find cute
>????
>Walk away

Not trying to make a connection or get numbers right now, just get over my fear. Literally doesn't matter what I say as long as I'm not being agressive or something.
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>>42093469
>just get over my fear

What about if you say something like "Hey, excuse me, where'd you get that bag? That's exactly my girlfriends' taste" and then it'll put them at ease and you won't have to worry about them thinking you're hitting on them

that'll help a lot with the initial desensitization to just talking to them
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4th pin of test e, I'm starting to feel GOOOOD lads.

What's the policy on fucking the gym receptionist?
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>>42093501
Don't do it on the gym counter. Even after hours.
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>>42093423
you're not learning how to interact with people by talking online

also
>implying 6'4
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>>42093469
go to piratebay and find a simple 30 torrent

it's exactly what you're looking for, trust me
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>>42093620
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>>42093620

>>42093620

>>42093620
>>42093620
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>>42093294
I agree. But to be honest I haven't actually seen that many people post cb's in these threads. maybe one or two, but that's about it.

>>42093423
This sounds like how hose creepy indian guys convince themselves they're smooth when they comment on instagram and facebook
>I want fuck you
>sucky sucky on nice boobs
>You want fuck?

>>42093501
I mean if she's down, go for it. Just don't mistake being nice to you while you walk into the gym with flirting.
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>>42087200
Really trying to stop myself today lads

I have money sitting right now

Really want to drop a few hundred again on hcg, test, aromasin etc....

fuck this is too much
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>>42093894
Do you have enough for whatever you're doing right now
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>>42093906
Yea, I have plenty my friendo

I'm just looking to burn some cash and want to add a little bit

I'm on HRT doses right now however my last source would over charge out the ass
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>>42093924
I'd say if you've got enough then you should save the cash for something else, like a date with a hot girl or some new clothes.

But I can also understand the appeal of stockpiling a fuckton of gear. Responsible me would say hold your money, but /fraud/ me would say buy the shit.
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