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How much is nutrition related to height?

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Nature vs Nurture argument.

In 1914, the average Dutch male height used to be 5'6" and now their average male height is 6'. In the past 100 years, South Koreans have grown over 8 inches in height.

What caused these extreme height changes? Was it women selecting more tall men and then putting sexual pressure on society to have tall babies? Or was it nutrition and the population being malnourished?

Do you think abnormally short people like 4' in height can produce children that will be taller as they have children? Like their children are 5' and then their children are 5'.5" and then their great-grandchildren are now 6'?
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>>42058916
Mama give milkies!!!
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This is now a titcow thread
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>>42058956

thank you based titcow thread permit granter
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>>42058916
gib milksys
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>in the US, where the height of the nation's people started to plateau in the 1960s and 1970s. Over the century, they have seen increases of just 6cm and 5cm (a couple of inches), respectively.

>Indeed, Americans have tumbled down the rankings. Back in 1914, they had the third tallest men and fourth tallest women on the planet. Today they are in 37th and 42nd place.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36888541

well, corn syrup and mexican immigration certainly don't have a positive impact
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a 100 yrs ago nobody cared how tall you were unless you were abnormally short
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>>42058916
Growth hormones in dairy and meat.

Notice how people got taller, but testosterone dropped significantly.

Hundred years from now every single person will be a 6'6" tall women.
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MAMMA MIA this bid tiddy milkymom must be milked right now! All abord the milk truck, milky time for anon!
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>>42058916
From what I understand, height is limited genetically, but reaching that limit comes down to nutrition.

So someone could have the potential to reach 6'0 and have such bad nutrition in adolescence that they only grow to 5'8. Another kid could have a maximum potential of 5'10 and, with excellent nutrition, grow to 5'10.
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>>42059044
GO VEGAN
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>>42058916
tbqhwyf if it takes south koreans 100 years to grow 8" they should be destroyed by great leader kim
also in support of titcow thread even though pic related isnt the tittiestofcowstitcows
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>>42059036
the mexican thing didn't start until the 90s tho
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>>42059080
kitty caprice
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It's 5'11 when actually measured and not self reported.
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>>42058939
That is the most faggest thing I've ever heard.

Congrats
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Sexual liberation and feminism allowed women to freely choose who they breed with, where as before marriages were more commonly (semi) arranged.

One effect of this is that women choose to breed with taller men.

It's also destroyed civilization and the family structure, gave us >50% divorce rates, increased crime (single mothers raise criminals), and ruined countless men's lives.

Divorce overwhelmingly is biased in favor of the female, and it destroys a man's life so bad that they are often led to murder/suicide, even murdering their own kids.
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>>42059144
You clearly haven't been here very long.
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>>42059164

>wifey will never fuck anyone other than her boring husband
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>>42059164
Since 2006
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>>42059180
You might want to search again.
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>>42059158
was with you until you blamed women for men murdering their kids

>she made me so sad that i had to kill children
i cant defend this
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>>42059184
Well then I guess you're just clinically retarded. Sorry.
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>>42059191

>new before I even searched that it would be a black guy
>its a black guy

why is life so predictable
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>>42059164
>>42058916
I want some fuxking milk!!!!!
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>>42059201
Yeah women usually do the kid murdering
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this is a nice board
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>>42059009
couldnt post any titcows because didnt have any saved on phone

but here you go
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>>42059206
Retarded for catching a glimpse of an overwhelmingly faggy meme?
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>>42059207
That the porn world we live in these days unfortunately. Sex with niggers is still the most taboo thing they can thing of that isn't illegal.
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TITCOWS
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>>42059036

immigration has nothing to do with it. Children of immigrants in the US and Europe end up like a foot taller than their parents on average.
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>>42059229
Look around you, we love the milky mama meme.
Which makes you the faggot.
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>>42059260
I love tits, but your meme is still gay.
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>>42059158

This has only been the case for like, 1 generation. it has not impacted the genetic make up of anything. Also considering there are ugly women who don't have the ability to pull tall men and have to mate with short men, which happens just as often as women choosing tall men to have babies with.

I wish you had to take a genetics class before shitposting about genes on the internet.
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>>42059110
>>42059248

then it's the additives in your food and your general diet, which is far more worrying
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>>42059268
It's literally the least gay meme ever.
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MAMA
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>>42059287
Sound pathetic.
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it's viking genes yo, I live in the PNW and fucking girls are regularly 6'+ but I recently went to socal and felt above average despite being a 5'10 omega manlet
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>>42059234
>make white women having sex with niggers socially acceptable
>keep it taboo, but then porn will churn out more nigger-loving porn to make it more socially acceptable
Kids of any age can look at porn now on their phones and tablets.
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>>42059283
don't do this to me, man....
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my parents were 5'6 and 4'11 in height. They were immigrants. I grew up here and ended up being 6'2.
My theory may be a bit skewed because I some 6-footers on my dad's side of the family, but I think nutrition is key
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>>42059299
My kid will get all white skin mags left in the bathroom like my dad did for me. No internet.
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>>42059285

but there has been a stark decline in hormones and additives in food, and a huge increase in organic, hormone free, vegetarian/vegans as well.

It's solely because of the type of food a huge portion of Americans are eating. Fast food, soda, caffeine (it uses calcium in the blood for it's processes, reducing bone health/growth/quality, and teenagers down caffeine like it's crack in every high school I've worked in, from black to white, rich to poor).

They also are far less active and fatter, and fat kids tend to reach puberty earlier. When puberty is reached earlier, the release of testosterone or estrogen triggers the growth plates to begin fusing, so they have less years of growth than kids who are healthy.

Then there is the fact that exercise produces growth hormone, which is another reason active teens tend to be taller than non-active ones.

its 100% about diet and exercise, like most problems the US has. In northern Europe, they have better diet, with seafood as their foundation (the healthiest kind of meat that needs less processing), and a established culture that focuses on health and movement (bikes are far more numerous in Norther Europe than in the US).

There are even hypothesis that the cold weather might make people taller. It's difficult to test and seems this is unlikely due to very hot countries can still have tall people, but it's something to think about.
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>>42059164
>>42059191
>>42059207
Who is this? Reverse search came up with nada.
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>>42059446

See

>>42059180
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Who's in this thread only for tits?
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>>42059478
I don't even know what these fucks are talking about.
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>>42059470
Oh, her porn name is literally Wifey, thought that was just the post referring to her as a wife.
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>>42059478
Big milky mommy tits
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>>42059510
THICCC /who/?
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>>42059343
Interesting and thanks for being one of the few that stays on topic.

So it's a combination of physical exercise, nutrition, and non processed foods? I've read that there is a genetic component too, like tall people have tall kids?
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>>42059542
no clue
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>>42059675
>tfw never fucked your hot professor after class
The pain.
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>>42059705
>>42059756
>>42059675
>>42059542
>>42059535
>>42059532
let's stay on topic bros. nature vs nurture
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>>42059812
no tits. didnt read
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>>42059756
That hip:waist ratio is absurd in the first pic
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>>42059756
I WANT MILKY MOMMY
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>>42059826>>42059836
>>42059838
>>42059861
>>42059854
NATURE VS NURTURE THREAD.

Is height related to nutrition or is it DNA?
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In 1953 every short dutchman died cause of the flood. Now the only manlets are genetic anomalies and immigrants
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>>42059110
Except it actually started in the late '60s. It declined in the late 70's and '80s and resurged in the '90s.
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>>42059871
Both. People have genetic limits to how tall they can get, but if you grow up malnourished you will likely not reach your max potential height.

More tits now.
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>>42059871
The bigger the titties - the bigger the boy
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>>42059911
in the 60s they were only 3% of the population

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_racial_and_ethnic_demographics_of_the_United_States
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>>42060128
MAMA

>makes sucking noises
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>>42059936
Nah, my mom barely has got any and I'm a big guy
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>>42058956
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>>42060264
This is the MINIMUM size to not be a breastlet.
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>>42059478
>>42059532
>>42059535
why not stay in /gif/ or /s/ so that we can talk about fit and health stuff here?
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>>42060311
>you were born too late to witness the chestlet elimination law being put into place
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>>42059036
I use corn syrup for my home made shake

Is bad?
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>>42059164
>>42060700
>>42060727

ughhhhhh imagine that woman being your secretary

>she leans into while your working, pressing her tits firmly against your back

>whispering into your ear, she half purrs. "anon, is it nature or nurture? do you need nurturing, anon?"


okay, faggots? get it out of your system and let's talk about NATURE VS NURTURE.
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>>42061153
>this homo is this desperate to discuss his thread's subject
See >>42058956
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>>42059945
That does not fit her. You can see it squashing her boobs.
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>>42061153
Height only matters for sports. Some sports it's better to be tall, others not. Being tall in the military is a pain in the ass.
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>>42059871
oh my god
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>>42059110
1965. Plus, they breed like rabbits because they have low life standards
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>>42061602
>low life standards
It's because they're Catholic you fucking idiot
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>>42061602
nah bro, look at >>42059968
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>>42058916
Rapid changes in quality of life and nutrition/ diet
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>>42061153
i wouldnt mind some nursing if you know what i mean
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>>42061688
He's right about it being the 60s. You just didn't notice until the 90s. Back in the 60s your government blatantly lied to you saying it wouldn't change the demographic makeup even. They did similar shit in my country but the population was far more apathetic and the government was far more blatant about it.
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>>42059675
Man. I used to have the entire set but now I lost it.
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>>42061972
got you senpai
http://imgur.com/a/zXT3g
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>>42062004
Thanks!
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>>42062004
so did this busty teacher get fired?
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>>42062794
Yeah baste that fucking turkey you cow
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>>42062004
Kind of reminds me of a classroom at my old high school. I wouldn't be surprised if all classrooms across the US looked the same
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>>42062820
I'd baste her turkey
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>>42059297
Vikings were manlets.
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>>42063541
L O N D O N

O

N

D

O

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>>42058916
There are more African basketball people spread throughout the world now.

That changes the height average now, and 100 years ago basketball people weren't considered human in some countries so they weren't factored in at all.
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It was the nutrition

Yes, a malnourished person that is small (maybe not a dwarf) can have much taller children
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>>42064339
>100 years ago basketball people weren't considered human in some countries
Name those countries for me.
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>>42064489
chad
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>>42064355
Where are her nipples?
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>>42059054
Best post in this thread, and everyone else is just jerking off to the dumbest answers
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>>42064489
Well Belgium is a good one to start with
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>>42059968
Yup, Immigration Act of 1965 irreversibly made America a spic country of poor, violent manlets. Expect America to unironically be in the same exact state as Brazil with favelas, gangs and drugs everywhere by the year 2050.
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>>42059705
I had the chance and squandered it
>mfw
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>tfw no busty milky mama
>tfw no test boost from sucking dem titties in between sets
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>>42058916
Came from a pretty trashy family and hardly ever remember actually being fed much until I was already 17 and about out of the house

Still made it to 6' -- pretty sure your height is one of those things that's determined beforehand and extremely unhealthy habits or medical illness is all that would cause someone to be a little shorter
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>>42064500
dude wtf is wrong with you, this is amazing. she has monstrously huge tits but not gross pepperoni nips
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>>42064797
>bro spouting broscience

is there any data that supports this?
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>>42064610
no one wants to hear a story of failure, betaboi.
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>>42064682
Is that Mattress Girl? holy shit
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>>42064797
>>42064867
"In the U.S., the heritability of height was estimated as 80 percent for white men. These estimates are well supported by another study of 8,798 pairs of Finnish twins, in which the heritability was 78 percent for men and 75 percent for women. Other studies have shown height heritability among whites to be even higher than 80 percent."

Of course, since childhood malnutrition is relatively rare in both the US and Finland, that would affect the overall percentage distribution, so long story short is that height is between ~60-80% genetic and the remainder is primarily nutrition but poorly-understood environmental and epigenetic factors make up the rest.
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>>42059756
That's Mal Malloy
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>>42064610
Do tell.
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>>42059756
is this real?? preggos increase tit size this much??
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>>42059228
shoop
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>>42059022
>>42058939

BASED MOMMY POSTERS LMAO
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>>42059291
What the actual fuck look at those proportions
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>>42058916
who dis semen demon?
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>>42066661
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>>42063595
No Vikings were taller than their counterparts at the time of their existence.
They were manlets by today's standards, but so were everyone living at the time.
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>>42064489
Australia
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I think I should give my future children top-of-the-line nutrition to make them grow tall since my girlfriend is 4'4" but I still believe that there is still hope because I am 7'4" and I can give my future kids great nutrition.
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>>42065114
Is it really?? Last I saw of her she was single and posting ass vids
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>>42068679

>7'4
>4'4
gonna make for some interesting sex, desu ?
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I hope nutrition doesn't play too much of a role

When I was 13-16 I pretty much only ate 2 meals per day, and I played a lot of sports too

Now I'm 5'8, and I think if I had just ate like a normal human being I could be an inch or two taller

Was very skinny, was probably eating 1,200-1,800 calories per day, and a chunk of that would have been sugary drinks
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Goddamnit you fucks, i'm trying to get taller over here. Stop with the cowtits
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>>42067783
Nobody who'd talk to you.
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>>42069107
solution: get a short girlfriend
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>>42059044
>tfw 5'9 Manlet
>dad is 5'11
>mom is 5'6

What happened?
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>>42069164
With cowtits.
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>>42058916
I'm a shitskin in a shitskin country living with a shitskin family in a shitskin village. My senpai has been tall through 6 generations, literally every male in it is over 184cm, I'm pretty sure our obsession with olive oil, dairy and bread/pasta diet wasn't the optimal one of all time.
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>>42068715
It's legit her
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVsgQbJAbcu/?taken-by=bronzehorse146
Posted pics of her pregnancy under the name Maebh17 for a while
There's a bit of stuff on /gif/ now, not a lot of new content out though
Just search her name in google and you'll mostly everything
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>>42058916
It's nutrition, in countries that suffer from chronic malnutrition the IQs and height are significantly lower than average.
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>>42058916
what if you give a kid growth hormone? will he get taller? I knew an 185 cm guy he said his family gave him growth hormone
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>>42064978
Nigga what? Mattress girl is an ugly half asian.
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>>42064555
i hope theres another attack in Belgium now
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>>42058916
>Was it women selecting more tall men and then putting sexual pressure on society to have tall babies?

I appreciate that we teach natural selection over creationism in schools, but apparently we don't do a very good job at it. Natural selection hasn't been in play in humans for hundreds of years.

Midgets reproduce, retards reproduce, 300 lb people reproduce, there is literally no culling of the undesirables that could cause any meaningful genetic change (especially over 100 years which is like 3 generations)
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>>42067783
Coral Sharon
also theres something called reverse search retard
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>>42071221

> Natural selection hasn't been in play in humans for hundreds of years.

You're an idiot
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>>42067810
Oh fug
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>>42059291
JUST KILLED A MAN
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>>42059574
Ye, but the amount of genetic component isn't nailed down exactly. Diet and nutrition are heritable too, since if you were tall because you ate well, you're probably going to teach your good dietary methods to your kids and they'll be tall as well.
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>>42062004
so that's what john malkovich is up to these days
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>>42071669
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>>42064500
lol used to brown pepperonis, recardo?
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>>42071394
Natural Selection is always at work, just search for "July 4 fireworks accidental deaths"
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>>42067810
>>42071169
>>42071719
UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>42069013
how tall are your parents?
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>>42059291
>>42067810
>>42071719
Why is this bodytype so hopelessly rare
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>>42071221
>no culling of the undesirables that could cause any meaningful genetic change (especially over 100 years which is like 3 generations)

yes there has been. europe and its involvement in ww1 and ww2 would be the environment to cull undesirables from greater society. stronger men and more physically fit me would be the individuals that would survive.
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>>42072243
probably because god has forsaken us
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>>42062004

dude i love big natural tits as much as any man but lets stay on topic and talk about nature vs nurture

if you want to talk about nature vs nurture and bit tits, that works too.

ARE BIG MAMA TITS LIKE IN THAT PIC BECAUSE OF THEIR GENES OR IS IT BECAUSE OF THEIR LIFESTYLE?
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>>42072655
gotta be genes man but like with height i think you can get some big anime tiddies if you eat right
3rd worlders are malnourished = short and no tiddies
westerners eat a lot = tall and cow meat
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>>42072655
Both, obv. In a lot of cases, genes only provide potential, and stuff like diet and environment makes it happen

Some genes have more potential than others, but sometimes people with the good genes for whatever reason aren't in the position to good results from those genes (like poor diet, lifestyle, illness)
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>>42072701
Also consider, asian populations have been getting consistently taller (and rounder) as their poverty rates go down, quality of life goes up, and general influence of American culture
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>>42072773
i just google that. it looks like asians grew 8 inches in the past 100 years
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>>42072843
It lends credence to my theory here:
>>42072740

Asians aren't short and have small breasts (as per stereotypes) strictly because of genes. Diet and environment have a huge impact
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>>42059236
did this guy fuck his cousin?
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>>42069278
I got it worse than you
>5'7"
>Dad 6"
>Mom 5'5"

My parents aren't super tall, but they aren't below the average of the area we live, while I clearly am.
I'm frustated.
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>>42073873
>>42069278
what was your childhood like?

>did you exercise?
>were you fat as a child? (being overweight as a child starts puberty earlier and early puberty is shorter than normal)
>were you chronically ill or suffer from allergies?

>>42073873
your height should be 6'1 to 6'1.5 according to your parents' height

>>42069278
your height should be 6' or 6'1 based on your parents' height
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