Fix Your Testosterone

>>42030511
I've heard cruciferous vegetables work wonders on ridding your body of excess estrogen. However, I've also read that too much cruciferous can fuck up your thyroid.

What does it say to do?

Wow paid advertising

>>42030588
Wow, you'd almost swear that such a thing as balance and or moderation were obsolete concepts.

>autistically modify diet and lifestyle to maximize natural T production
>get maybe a 5-10% increase

or

>spend $40 on 10ml test E
>400% increase

"""naturally"" increasing testosterone" is the biggest meme in all of lifting

>>42030712
I have nothing to do with the guy who wrote the book. I literally uploaded a PDF they sell for $97. I just think it's a good collection of tips to improve your health. It helped me, so I figured it's worth sharing.

>>42030782
This.

If you are man with low test, 99.999% chance you have LOW estrogen.

When the fuck will this meme end

FACT: estrogen is anabolic
FACT: estrogen (e2) is just as important as test for sex drive (you can have superhuman test levels, but without e2 you will be a depressed limpdick beta.)
FACT: in men the vast majority of e2 comes from converted test. Your "TOXINS in the water" memes are wrong.

>>42030820

Bullshit.

It's about the ratio of Test to E2.

Of course you want estrogen at some levels for its functions but you are full on stockholm syndrome if you think men with low test have low estrogen.

>>42030511
Thanks for the free book my dude

Also thank you OP youre a god.

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>>42030782
>spend $40 on 10ml test E


Legal test costs way more

>>42030851
Source?

Tell me then how men produce massive amounts of e2 without it converting from test. What organ?

>>42030851
Also, what benefits are there from low estrogen? Other than maybe looking slightly more dry?

The only thing that wasn't bullshit bro science in your post is T:e2 ratio is important. The rest sounds like you fell for /fit/ memes

>>42030897

so why bother?

>>42030511
If I can grow a full beard somewhat quickly and can put on muscle rather quickly, but have bad depression and anxiety, am I still possibly low test?

I got like 50/50 the symptoms of both quite high and quite low testosterone.

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>>42030820
>Lean bone mass
>Estrogen is anabolic

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON /fit/?

GIMME A TLDR NIGGER

>>42031368
>If I can grow a full beard somewhat quickly and can put on muscle rather quickly, but have bad depression and anxiety, am I still possibly low test?

Depression can be a sign of low test. Go to your doctor and tell him you'd like to get your testosterone levels checked.

>>42030511
Unless there's some serious deficit or fuck up in your nutrition/sleep/habits, a "boost" in your natty range (whichever it is) is irrelevant for any purpose. Every now and then there's someone selling snake oil or reviewing "natural ways" to boost test. No more than few days ago a fellow redditor spammed here (after having spammed some subreddits) a yt vid featuring a gook-worshipped manlet spelling out yet another time all the "good habits and ways" to "naturally boost" testosterone.
Thanks for thought anyway. Try to lift some weight sometimes

>>42031545
Depression is super genetic for my mom's family, but my dad is 54 and is still obviously high test as fuck and I'm jealous of his arms being twice the size of of mine.

there's very little you can do to boost test naturally

>>42030782
Yeah enjoy permanently damaging endogenous test production for the rest of your life faggot.

>>42030511
>I guess they're fine with being piles of weak sentient estrogenic flesh because there was no interest.
Aside from all the frogs are gay meme,all threads relative to testosterone had good discussions and questions
Take prints of the full version parts so people can see if its worth anything

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>>42030511
this is a very good resource. Thanks OP

>>42031545
Low estrogen is more likely to cause depression. I've had insanely low T (thanks heroin) and low E2. Low e2 felt way, way worse.

>>42031833

I never recommended roiding, faggot. I'm not on any steroids myself. All I'm saying is that agonizing over increasing your natural testosterone production is a fucking waste of time, money, and energy - which is the truth.

if you truly desire to surpass the limits imposed by your endocrine system, there is one extremely easy and effective way of accomplishing that goal - hop on some gear. anything else, be it taking cold showers or swearing off porn or whatever, is at best a helpful placebo and a complete and total fucking meme by comparison.

>>42032094

Sage

>>42032094
>hop on some gear
Which will raise ones test beyond normal ranges. TRT would be the choice for faggots who simply want the baseline. Why suggest a drug that will raise test levels beyond what's normal? Much less without a doctors assistance.

Is that what you're looking for OP? Beyond baseline? If so, then this non roid using anon is right. Go score some drugs illegally so you can pacify your concern of having low test.

when will this

>hoe 2 increase test WITHOUT steroids

meme end? ok so maybe if i eat more cabbage and drink bottled water my test will go up 3%? fuck off

>>42031343
Worried about using my credit card to pay for good shit

I have a source online which is verified

However from what I hear

Most shit you get imported is all fake

Also not sure if it is legal to ship directly to your house

Speaking of hormones, will sleeping at 6 in the morning till afternoon (assuming you naturally wake up alone, no alarm) have any negative effects on hormones? (test / hgh etc)

I still get 8-9 hours of non-interrupted sleep, even if its in weird hours.

I have the exact same Tumor in my pituitary gland as the author had. My test level is only 13. How fucking bad is 13 guys ?? What is "normal?"

>>42030511
Go to 8c /pol/ instead and they will be interested. Lifting is very popular there unlike in the degenerate hive of scum and villainy that is the /pol/ here.

>>42032299
I'm really hoping 13 is on a different scale then the standard measurement of what I've heard. I don't roid but I've heard anywhere from 800-1200 ng/l is a good normal range. 13 would be god awfully horrendous.

>>42032157

well if you actually have low T then you should go to a doctor and get yourself on TRT, yes. I wasn't trying to imply that it's smarter to self medicate a legitimate health condition than to consult with a doctor

but the shit in OP's book isn't aimed at people who could just go to a doctor and get TRT, it's for morons who want to get bigger or feel more masculine but who are spooked by steroids. if you have a clinical condition that results in low T, see a doctor about TRT. if you want to surpass the natty limit for recreational purposes, buy some gear. under no circumstances is it a wise investment to waste your time and energy on homeopathy-tier methods of "naturally boosting test" which is what I guarantee is in OP's book.

>>42032150
mad for some reason?

>>42032413

Sorry man , the unit of meausurement is 13 nmol/L - . If that helps

>>42031272

Look up E2 leakage from birth control in the water supply. It's literally turning fish gay.

>>42032801
You just outed yourself as an idiot. The only people who post about that are people making fun of Alex Jones.

>>42030511
Fuck off with your shitty snake oil pseudo-science and go and shill somewhere else.

If you're low test, inject test. Fucking simple.

thanks for being an unselfish cunt, OP

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>>42032919
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/02/fish-becoming-transgender-contraceptive-pill-chemicals-flushed/

>A fifth of male fish are now transgender because of chemicals from the contraceptive pill being flushed down household drains, a study by has suggested.

>Male river fish are displaying feminised traits and even producing eggs, the study found. Some have reduced sperm quality and display less aggressive and competitive behaviour, which makes them less likely to breed successfully.

>The chemicals causing these effects include ingredients in the contraceptive pill, by-products of cleaning agents, plastics and cosmetics, according to the findings.

>>42032919

What no clever, head-in-the-sand response to this? >>42033127

>>42030511
wow, the download link actually works. Thanks /fit/ bro!

it's funny because I've been on the fence a few times about buying that since December of last year, but I always decided not to because of that ridiculous price ($97, really?)

welp, now I got it for $0

>>42033535
>>42033127
I'm not the guy you were talking to but I'll take a jab at it. In nature some animals may change gender to fulfill the ecosystem's needs and keep everything in equilibrium. The birth control leaking into the water may not even be the cause of this if that's the case and if it is and it gets out of hand then equilibrium will be maintained by other fish turning into males.
Added to this, fish are not humans and their endocrine system does not respond the same. In a man if you increase the amount of estrogen the amount of testosterone will rise as well. This is because the body wants to be in equilibrium/homeostasis, which you learn in 9th grade biology. Obviously you didn't go to high school if that clickbait garbage made head way with you. Just in case you try to claim humans do work the same way, if you were to increase testosterone then estrogen levels would increase as well, which is why you need estrogen blockers when you roid. Idiot.

>>42033535
He's not gonna respond because he just got BTFO'd by my link. He's butt-blasted cuz Alex Jones was right.

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>>42033127
TURN
THE
FRIGGIN
FROGS
GAY

>>42030511
>slept very little as a teenager
>drank a lot from plastic bottles
>ring finger barely 1cm longer than index finger
Is there any hope? Also, is the pdf on libgen?

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>>42033673
>>42033701
>>42032919
Sperm counts and testosterone levels being on the way down is nothing controversial.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23213178
In this study, a direct connection is made between endocrine disruptors (read: ee2 from birth control) and testosterone levels in France:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24567426
Here's two about men in Denmark:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/and.12168/pdf (sci-hub: http://cyber.sci-hub.cc/MTAuMTExMS9hbmQuMTIxNjg=/jiang2013.pdf)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10655308

Hormone based birth control is the root of all evil. They also destroy relationships:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/birth-control-pills-affect-womens-taste/
>Women who start or stop taking the pill, then, may be in for some relationship problems. A study published last year in Psychological Science found that women paired with MHC-similar men are less sexually satisfied and more likely to cheat on their partners than women paired with MHC-dissimilar men. So a woman on the pill, for example, might be more likely to start dating a MHC-similar man, but he could ultimately leave her less sexually satisfied. Then if she goes off the pill during the relationship, the accompanying hormonal changes will draw her even more strongly toward more MHC-dissimilar men. These immune genes may have a “powerful effect in terms of how well relationships are cemented,” says University of Liverpool psychologist Craig Roberts, co-author of the August paper.
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/260/1359/245
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/275/1652/2715
https://cyber.sci-hub.cc/MTAuMTA5OC9yc3BiLjE5OTUuMDA4Nw==/wedekind1995.pdf
https://zeze.sci-hub.cc/c5b34c496c328a515fbcd861063f505d/roberts2008.pdf
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2011/10/10/rspb.2011.1647
https://zeze.sci-hub.cc/0dc94a1dba629193ef3bdd6f42b05b72/roberts2011.pdf

Then you also have media spreading desinformation (see pic)

>>42033854
Here's another one:
http://www.arhp.org/publications-and-resources/contraception-journal/august-2011
>separating myth from fact
>immediately starts talking about how good and important contraceptives are instead of discussing whether they're dangerous which was the point of the article
>continues with "muh ebil climate change deniers"
>compare chemicals with wildly varying potency to then claim that the synthetic ones (the dangerous potent ones) are only a small fraction of all the estrogen, and hide it inside a study behind a paywall

"Yes, there has been research done on this subject, but personal relations and feelings are of course also important because humans are complicated and unique"

>>42032379
>Telling people to go to 8/pol/
You're the reason 8/pol/ is bad now.

>>42033854
The very first study you linked says that geographical factors and toxicology can play factors in the concentration of semen in ejaculate, that's not accounting for the mental state of the male knowing that his partner can't get pregnant, all the women in the study were infertile, either artificially (tied tubes) or not.

>>42033899
Yeah, but they should have been roughly the same for all the years. The ones from Denmark are from compulsory military service.

You'd make more gains in the time it would take to read that book by lifting Heavy Ass Weight™ than you would practicing what the book discusses.

That seems to be the problem with neo fit, everybody wants to be a bodybuilder by doing nofap, water fasting, etc. instead of liftan

>>42030511
and the link doesn't fucking work. fix it.

>>42034603
Worked fine for me

>>42033980
>the problem with neo fit, everybody wants to be a bodybuilder by doing nofap, water fasting, etc. instead of liftan

A million times this.

Everyone on /fit/ now is like the infomercial crowd waiting for some stupid crap from some lousy salesman.

>>42031833
>he thinks doing a 12 week cycle of test will fuck him up for life
Oh, boy. I highly suggest educating yourself.

>>42030782
Where the fuck are you that a vial of test E is running you that much, australia? Here its about 25$ for 250mg/ml

>>42034688
Can you do a 12 week cycle and keep the gains without repeating the cycle for say, a year or 2?

>>42034686
Everyone but the two of you. The snowflakes of /fit. Started coming herre before IT was a shitboard.

>>42032561
https://www.menshormonalhealth.com/normal-testosterone-levels.html
I guess you're fucked

>>42030588
Eating fiber rich fulls in general helps with getting rid of excess estrogen into your bile

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>>42030511
I was wondering about this program. Thanks a lot anon, here's a prime jewel from my high test collection in return

I'm 19 so probably have high test anyway, is it still worth doing?

>>42032170
>bottled water
>plastic bottle
>plastic has xenostregens
>falling for the bottled jew


Enjoy your mantits lel

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>>42035756

>>42036900
How do you guys manage to drink enough water without using plastic bottles? Where do you keep it?

>>42030511
hello Christopher Walker, is the money not coming in anymore? Have people seen through the cheap marketing tactics and "sponsored articles" the likes of you, Kinobody etc. have been using?

>>42037029
Use tap water filtered by a reverse osmosis filter and a glass water bottle

What's up with the meme that it's impossible to boost test naturally? If you're zinc or vitamin D deficient you definitely can increase it, and not by 3% or whatever other percentages you guys are citing. Also, I find it hard to believe that an increase of 100-150 for someone who's on the lower end is not a substantial one.

Don't know about the quality of the book, but comments that time would be better spent lifting are pretty absurd since lifting takes max 2 hours of a day.