/fat/ "prob never gonna make it" edition

>>42027734
First for I hate the holidays because it makes people happy and I'm not happy so sod off.

How much i could you weight by new year eve?

LORD help me finish this food...


>tfw you turn from overweight fatty that could easily scarf down kgs of food, to a fasting skinnyfat that can't get 1200 calories a day.
I need the protein, damn it!!!!

REEEEEEEEE

>sister is making cake for her 300 pound friend for 4th of July
>she adds whey protein to it to make it healthier
Women are stupid.

how do I gain the will power to stop weighing myself everyday? because weight fluctuates sometimes I'm 3lbs heavier and feel like shit about myself and sometimes I lose 0.2lbs and feel like I'm wasting my time. I just want to look once a week and see a gradual decline but it's like I have to know anyone got any advice or going through the same shit?

I'm so fucking weak-willed

To the person asking about learning Tableau -

R unfortunately won't get you very far in Tableau because of its undisputedly goofy syntax.

I worked at the Tableau HQ for a few years. Tableau's training videos on their website will get you about 80% of Tableau's functionality. The other 20% is years and years of trial and error. I've been at it for 7 years and I'm probably around the 95% mark. My plan is to put together a cool project to feature in my professional portfolio. For now it's just slopped together with some fitness data. Some of my calculations are wrong.

>>42027829
Buy smaller clothes

>>42027829
I'm right there with you, anon. I have been EXACTLY the same weight for 4 days (I drink a ton of water, wake up and shit my brains out every day, and then weigh myself.)

Driving me crazy.

No, there's no way to stop. It's maddening.

>>42027769
What
>>42027829
Weigh yourself once a day in the morning after your BM and after taking a leak. May help to improve your mood but weight tends to fluxuate by a large margin throughout the day.
>>42027836
Air unto us your sins, good sir and we shall help to absolve thee.
>>42027903
What

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>plateau for a week
>friend makes fun of me and tells me to stop lifting and do more cardio even though i already count my calories
Some of you guys are alright, don't go to school tomorrow

>>42027907
exactly I fucking hate it because I know I'm gonna be mad if I weigh myself and I'm heavier but then I'll also be wondering if I'm actually losing anything if I don't. it's a shitty trap.
>>42027919
that's what I do but I haven't had a nice hefty dump in awhile. But I weight myself at the exact same time everyday and I don't see anything but weight gain some days and loss in others. so far I've noticed that it has been declining but i want it to drop everyday not one day I'm 193.7 and another day I'm 190.2 it's not fair

>>42027769
Well let us say that is about 6 months away or 25 weeks.

My weight loss has slowed from the 256lbs I started to the 235.5 pounds now.

If I say two pounds a week then I should be able to lose 50lbs until new years. Taking me down to 185lbs.

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Trying to get in shape again lads. I was 230 when I graduated high school, but after busting my ass I went down to around 180. Fast forward 6 years later and I became a lazy fuck due to my job and shot up to 215. I'm losing it again, but fuck it's a lot harder now than it was when I was 18/19. Hopefully I make it.

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Any other burgers ready for the 4th onslaught? I've been fasting for over a day now and did 10 miles of bikings along with a 5 mile walk yesterday to help cut my losses

Is suicide an effective means of cutting?

>>42028008
shoot straight Mr.Lee!

>>42028014
>those trash pixels

>>42028018
No, death causes bloating.

>>42028014
4th onslaught? I'm bringing my own marinated chicken and asparagus to grill. Why would you fall for that shitty meme? Nice self control. I guess some of us came to fail.

>>42028021
Begone anorexic witch

>>42028018
Razor blades, on the other hand, are an effective means of cutting

>>42028021
Begone anorexic witch!

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>>42028008
>>42028021
Fuck off

>>42028115
don't play their game you idiot

>>42027734
>tfw Jodie Foster lady-wojack will never mire you
Just the motivation I needed

>>42027892
Yea I noticed the syntax is goofy...coming from a hard programing background has helped w the goofyness does tableau have a programming syntax or is it guidelines based. I'd prefer programming and like to know how to get to that if it is available.

>>42027919
Hey Apple, I'm not sure if it's been changed already but tried to catch your eye. I put in the wrong losertown date, should be 17th October. I think I put the end date not first 20lbs.

Do you know if people tend to get a date based on sedentary or if they do adjust the activity for it? I've set mine to light although I go to the gym daily for runs and classes.

>>42028148
There are a few API's that you can call natively from Tableau (Javascript, REST.) R is on it's own island of goofiness. Tableau's syntax is a query language, so hard programming is going to get you further in R than it will Tableau. Tableau and SQL are fundamentally nearly-identical. Most of Tableau's power comes from complex calculated fields (query language programming.)

My suggestion - take any data you have regarding your weight loss/fitness, plug it into Tableau, and just play with it. You can get a free 14 day trial of Tableau desktop (developer platform) from their website, or a free license of Tableau public (basically desktop, but instead of saving files locally, forced to publish to their public cloud.)

>>42027919
Apple I'm on a 4 day plateau. I'm very consistent about how I weigh myself. WHY AM I NOT BECOMING LESS FAT.

/end rant

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>>42028007
I'd really like to reach 200lbs mark when i'm 270 lbs at the moment.

>>42028247
Will look at it later, have a 28 he flight coming up and I need to prepare my body...
The query language part is interesting as a process flow...

>>42028283
The first 20 or so pounds are free. You could get to 250 by the end of July.

Is lifting good in order to avoid excess skin when losing weight?

>tfw job was stressful as fuck and had no upward mobility
>working offshore part time and 4 days into the trip all healthy food gets eaten
>end up at 315 lbs hating life
>quit my job in May and get accepted into grad school
>have been working out and dieting since then
>lost 37lbs so far but still want to lose another ~43 lbs by the end of the year
>all I can do is try to kill time as fast as possible so I can get to my goals
>still don't feel like I'm living
How am I supposed to enjoy the present? Does it get better when I'm in shape?

>>42028303
What do you mean by interesting as a process flow? You don't really 'program' with data. Maybe if you're building applications like D3, but data is queried.

>111kcal between current and goal TDEE
are calories bullshit?

I mean if you're not cuttting hard then it's gonna take forever

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Are my proportions weird?

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CONFESS, FATTIES

>>42028348
Why do you think that

>>42028377
spent £1 on a box of 6 apple pies
ate one and decided I'd got my moneys worth so gave one to my sister and threw the rest

>>42028377
nice OC, anon. I recognize your style!

Other than that, nothing to confess.

>>42028339
TDEE is bullshit desu.

My TDEE is 3070. Realistically, I'm burning 3400-3500 calories/day. I'm eating 1500-1700 calories/day. I don't think calories are bullshit, but not all calories are equal.

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>>42028348
When you see it
>cannot unseeee REEEE

>>42028377
i'm a fat yuropoor and I hate living in Europe.

Kill me this is suffering.

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>>42028397
Why haven't you just bought 6 apples instead? Now the labour of the people is wasted.

>>42028388
Because my forearm genetics are bigger than my leg. My dad has big forearms also.

>>42028425
What can't you unsee?

TDEE is the biggest meme of /fit/

prove me wrong

>>42028457
No BMR is the meme.

>>42028450
Isn't it great? My shins are like 3 times wider than my forearms, that's what I call bad proportions.

>>42028450
big forearms are good whats wrong with that

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>>42028402

Thanks, we need more HQ wojaks. Heres the vanilla one

>>42028474
much thanks, will put it to good use!

>>42028306
Does height increases the weight loss? I mean would shorter person would lose weight faster as oppose to me (6'4 275 lbs)?

>>42028542
no, Height just makes the Fat more spread out, meaning less issues with loose Skin, and you usually look Skinner than you actually are.

>>42028542
It's the opposite, taller guys lose weight faster than us manlets, at least i think so

>>42028469
Doesn't that give you a higher squat and dead same as mine should give me a higher bench and curl.

>>42028542
Height decreases the amount of weight you need to lose to be at a healthy weight. Right now you are obese, but thanks to your height you are not past the point of no return or anything.

I'm 6ft1 and 202 pounds. I'm in the middle of a cut (already down from 220 earlier in the year) with a goal of 180. You could get down to 200 and be at a healthy weight, so your current plan should be to lose 75 pounds over the next 12-14 months. That sounds like a long time, but every day you either stay at 275 or gain weight, it will be that much longer to get back to a healthy weight.

You being 6ft4 gives you an advantage many people don't have when losing weight.

>>42028542
yes and no. manlets have smaller frames, and therefor smaller organs and reduced muscle mass. what this means is that a 5'6'' dude and a 6'2'' dude who both start at 275lbs would both be able to maintain a ~2lb per week loss for the first series of weeks, but the manlet would be able to continue that rate for a longer period of time due to having a lower basal metabolic rate.
however, just because the manlet can lose fat faster and for longer, that doesn't mean he's getting to his goal any faster. the taller guy may have to cut weight more slowly, but won't have to cut as much weight to get to the same bf%. the same principle applies when comparing two people who are both 6' and 300lbs, but one is 22%bf and the other is 40%bf. fatty mcjiggletits can lose weight at a rapid rate and keep it up for a while, but beefcake will have abs first

>>42027803

she's helping her friend die faster

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>>42028377
Father, I have sinned greatly. I have exceeded my calorie target by 833, effectively meaning I have ate just over my maintenance. I have done my 10,000 steps, and intend to go for another walk this evening, but I know that that cannot save me. To forgive me is to deceive yourself into thinking I am worthy of such forgiveness.

>>42028472
It just looks weird. I'll never be Chad.

>>42028633
Yesterday I got you beat.

>>42028635
but you CAN be a Theodore. smart, thicc, badass, and able to coke out a bear with 1 hand.

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>>42028655
Yeah but if I'm in bear country I'd have a gun unlike the dead people on the news.

>>42028652
Forgot the pic.

>>42028635
wanna trade? I'm a forearmlet and i want big forewarms, you can have my twigs

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>>42028377
I'm tired father

>>42028633

put the fork down my son

>>42028713
I have, Father. I am abstaining from my dinner and drinking water for the rest of the night.

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Y no /skelly/ general

>>42028808
because
>waaah eating is too hard
got old

>>42028624
>a higher squat and dead
So I can make my legs even bigger? I already look like a SS+GOMAD victim. Still I love deads for how they hit my traps, 1x5 feels more effective than a ton of dumbbell shrugs.

>>42028202
Updated. Also with calculating anything that requires an activity check I put in sedentary. Any calories I gain from exercise are just a nice bonus. For instance I'm eating around 1300 right now (PSMF, I both do and don't recommend it) and but about 3900. That's just 2600 of sweet, sweet bonus.
>>42028274
Plateaus happen. If you hit 7 days of plateau, switch to maintenance for a few days (people recommend a week, I've personally done 3 days and then switched back and was back to losing significantly).

>>42028808
aka the rest of the board?

As a fatty who made. Don't give up and dont weigh yourself. Once your clothes start to fit better, you wont care about the scale.

Man despite losing about 60 pounds and being like 10 pounds away from a normal bmi, my gut is still fucking huge.

When can I expect a flat stomach for a 5'8" dude who was once 235lbs and is now 175lbs.

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>>42028888
Quads of Truth

>>42028896
When you get your body fat down. Assuming you don't have a stomach tumor.

>>42028896
Its not just body fat, when I started to build muscle all over my body. My stomach improved so much, when I would do push ups my whole gut would hang, now its not even noticable.

>>42027829
Weighing every day is good. It gives you good information about hydration levels, sodium intake and just overall status. Also averaged over time it will give you a perfect picture for your weight loss.

>>42028987
Not if it causing him unnessisary stress. If he's still pretty overweight, he will lose just by working out more and eating less.

>>42028818
>skellington
>need to force self to consume shitloads of food
>fatass
>literally do nothing

>>42028439
>Laborers make product.
>Sell product for money.
>Buyer throws product in trash can.

How exactly did they waste their labor?

reached 158lbs, been lifting for 5-6months while dieting but there was not a lot of progress IMO, should i start bulking now? the handles are still there, but i don't think they will dissapear if i keep cutting.
im probably in skinny fat tier now

>>42029095
Continue lifting at maintenance for a month or two. Then bulk.

>>42028888
Fuck off. I love the scale. It's the only thing that keeps me progressing.

>>42029130
I'm thinking of doing this myself after I get to like 190lbs. Is there a benefit of doing this at 235lbs or should I wait?

Holy shit, duck is filling as fuck.

>>42028542
Obviously, there is a positive relation between one's lean mass, and the amount of weight they can lose weekly, therefore it should be easier to lose 70 lbs as a tall guy (assuming individuals who are averagely muscular).

>>42029182
Benefit is having a lower body fat percentage, really. Lower fat gives you a bit more wiggle room for building lean muscle mass at a more consistent pace.

Continue to lift as you cut to 190, then switch to maintenance for 2 months while focusing on lifts. This should see you to 4-6 lbs of lean muscle mass while tightening up loose skin.

>>42029130
>>42029257
thanks famalam

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CONFESS, pajeet

>>42029196
did it go well with the garlic potatoes?

Any ideas for high-protein bread substitutes to convey sandwich meat into my mouth?

>>42027829
First, you have to realize that there is no fucking way you gained fat if you stayed below your calorie goal, and therefore you shouldn't worry about the days the scale shows an increase. Second, you shouldn't stop weighing daily, because you'd probably experience the same problem if you only weighed yourself once a week, but you'd panic even more, as you'd think that that definitely can't be a fluke. Third, you should log your daily weight, so you can make a sexy graph out of it, and just look at all your progress when you feel like pigging out.

>>42029287
this is a good wojack but we already have a father taking confessions

>>42028014
I have to work anyway so im just going about my day pretty normally

>>42029304

we need fathers of every religion, pajeets not gonna confess to the fat pope

>>42029291
Damn right it did.

>>42029239
>averagely muscular
Sadly but i'm not muscular just fat blob. I know i should go to gym but it's expensive here.

>>42027829
graph that shit in excel. Cool to see while there are some fluctuations day to day if you're dieting right you can see a steady trend going down. linear regression it

>>42027829
>>42028987
I like weighing myself every day, but you need to make sure to be objective about it. Keep in mind what you ate for the last 1-2 days if your weight stays steady or goes up. Maybe you ate something or continue to eat something that you shouldn't, or perhaps you need to drink more water to keep things moving.

What's important is to just watch it trend. Don't feel defeated because it went up a little, or stayed the same. There can be many reasons for this. If you stick to it, it *will* go down.

Also, if you aren't measuring any other way, you're doing it wrong. Measure yourself with a tape measure in the fatty bits (tummy along navel, chest along nipples, thighs, biceps, maybe other spots).

Also, measure your energy levels. Keep a log of how you feel every day. Make sure your tracking your water and sunlight exposure. All of these things are important.

>>42028377
I ate one piece of cake, because my fat cunt mother always nags me to eat more. I only ate a <1000 kcal pizza today, so I should still be in a 500+ kcal deficit, but eating that piece of cake has decreased my deficit for today by at least 30%, not to mention breaking my 23:1 IF. I'm so fucking mad at myself and so fucking mad at her.

>>42029322
pajeets dont confess. only religion that has confession is catholics.

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>>42028315
meditate

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>>42029287
>>42029447
Eastern Orthodox has confessions too

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Here's an OC Limited Edition Fat Wojak for our ameribros's 4th of July. Enjoy!

>>42028348
>>42028450
>>42028635
You probably don't have "big forearm genetics", you just think your forearms are big, because of your fat distribution. But even if you do have unusually big forearm, the rest of your body can catch up over time if you lift.

>>42029501
seconding this.

>>42028008
shoot straight Mr.Lee!

>>42029287
I have bought 4 energy drinks and will drink them over the course of the next two days. I'm sorry Brahmin.

>>42028008
shoot straight Mr.lee!

>>42028021
Begone anorexic witch

>>42027734
>Have been on diet over a year, lost 12Kg, now 85
>Hit a wall, 1600Kc a day and not losing weight
>Can't balance high enough protein intake with low caloric diet
>Fuck that shit, going all out
>1400Kc + 25m run 3 times a week
>Start losing weight again
>As well as my will to live
This is fucking hard.

>>42029617
>Have been on diet over a year, lost 12Kg

What's your height? Not to be a jerk but 12kg in a year is pretty bad.

>>42028007
You can do it!

Is the body supposed to burn the most of the fat during sleep?

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>>42029617
Not very significant, all things considered. How tall are you? How much were you losing a week? In addition to that how much protein were you trying to get if you just recently started running?

>>42029696
Cheesus...

>>42029688
no, our metabolism slows down when we sleep. but ~8 hours of relaxed inactivity is great for recovery, stress reduction, and general wellbeing. while we are physically capable on living on little sleep, our brains are programmed to want to sleep regularly, and will signal that there's a problem even if we are almost fully rested. regularly underresting can cause a buildup of stress reducing overall quality of life, so sleep has more impact than just "fat burned over time". if you get less sleep you'll burn less fat, but it would be from fatigue reducing your ability to work effectively during waking hours and not the lack of fat burned while sleeping.

>>42029727
Only 28g or a 1/4 cup serving of cheese.

Freshly certified nutritionist and personal trainer here. Been participating in the thread for a while but I'll take off my name to not bring undue attention upon myself. I see a lot of you that struggle with the nutrition and exercising aspect of weight loss, especially macros when you aren't actively running or lifting. So here's a brief period of time where you can ask me anything and I will do my best to help you. I've got about 2 hours free so go ahead and toss them out there.

how do i know if im developing an eating disorder?

>>42029835
>So here's a brief period of time where you can ask me anything and I will do my best to help you
Could you give some tips on losing weight from nutritionist and personal trainer perspective?

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What is the point if girls, even fat girls want pic related, and I put in all of this work just to end up being a deformed loose skin monster?

When did this general start?

>>42029491
eastern orthodox are considered in union with the catholic church and are just having an infight over some little nonsense. you can go back and forth between the two without changing as a parishioner.

>>42029835
1.How much protein should one intake? What is the formula?
2. What are the consequences in undereating protein?
3. What are your thoughts on Intermittent Fasting? Is it beneficiary to weight loss (other than for caloric restriction)?

Thanks.

>>42028021
BEGONE, ANOREXIC WITCH!

>tfw weighted myself and im 84kg
>i'm 1,67
I-IT'S MUSCLE R-RIGHT ANONS?

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>>42029696
Here be the calories.

>>42029924
>>i'm 1,67
a-are you a grill?

>>42029287
I had a couple of beers the other day.

>>42029936
>ate 2000 calories worth of cookies

My last hurrah. Back to it from now on.

>>42029860
I'll give you some from a human perspective. Unfortunately as a nutritionist and personal trainer I'm in contract to a gym to pull people in. When I do get the opportunity to help people as an aside I give them useful information but first and foremost I'm a high commission salesman.

That said, the best tip I have for you in losing weight is to exercise during. A starting program for lifting weights, regular morning cardio and a strong diet. CICO is law but if you need to work on your ability to resist food and strengthen your force of will then I am personally a fan of ketosis or low carb diets. You'll see significant fat loss and have less issues with loose skin if you lift consistently throughout.
>>42029901
1. 1g per pound of lean body mass.
2. During a heavy cut? Loss of muscle mass and general weakness in your day to day. Per the other anon's post, I recommend lifting the entire time so in respect to that you'd fail to make progress on your lifts and probably stagnate early which would lead to a lack of motivation and likelihood of relapsing or 'fuckarounditis/'
3. I've personally only every tried 23:1 or 18:6 but I feel you can have a lot of luck with it during a cut if you can stick to it. Makes eating and sticking to a diet a bit easier. As for HGH levels and the like, the science is all there for fasting being significant in seeing upticks but on a personal level I never noticed a significant change outside of making cuts easier.

>>42028008
shoot straight Mr. Lee!

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>>42029696
I miss tortillas

>>42028818
>waaah not eating is hard

>>42028021
BEGONE ANOREXIC WITCH!

>>42029939
i'm male.

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>>42029955
>implying he can't eat cookies and lose weight

>>42030018
>>implying he can't eat cookies and lose weight


Trust me, not the way I eat them.

Cutting them out completely is just the smartest thing for me.

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Can a man keep himself tight when losing with bodyweight exercises?

I don't want excess skin when I lose.

Pic rel

>>42030039
Yeah moderation is hard. But I have more of a problem with homemade stuff. Even a brownie box mix has so much more calories than a box of 4 ice cream cookies.

>>42029884
girls want ottermode as well as slightly chubby guys
even skinnyfats
But you shouldnt really be getting healthy for girls, you should do it for yourself, those who care about you and perhaps those future children that don't want you to die of a heart attack when you're 50

>>42030073
>200 squats
lol why not 400? Why not 135? These things are so stupid.

If any exercise requires you to do 100+ of them it's retarded.

>>42030175
Well I can't afford the gym so could you suggest what I should be doing then?

>>42030213
Planet fitness is $10 a month. Are you that broke?

>>42028987
>>42029369
>>42029350
>>42029301
thank you guys so much for the advice and for helping to keep me motivated and not feel extremely dressed about it. /fat/ is legit the best thread with the most helpful people.
We are all gonna make it

>>42030237
I live in the UK for one, and 2, yes i am incredibly broke.

>>42029884
Girls want someone who looks normal. Just like guys. You may fantasize about porn stars or waifu, but that's not actually what you want to come home to every day, is it?

Even with loose skin, with clothes on you'll look fine. Most women, if they like you, they'll ignore loose skin just like they would ignore a small dick or a small gut.

>>42029293
Lettuce wrap, fgt

>>42030245
Do you have space?

>>42030267
Space for what?

>>42030253
>they would ignore a small dick
They dont ignore small dick.

>>42029835
I'm here because I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes about 3 months ago.

Since then I've lost about 35 pounds, cut out junk completely, and been going low carb very close or in ketosis.

My ultimate goal is to get diabetes in remission. If you have any advice nutrition wise on how to do that, I'd appreciate it.

Also: excess protein turns into glucose. Would that be enough to increase blood sugar? How careful should I be once I've hit my goal weight and want to increase muscle?

>>42030280
Yes they really do minus a few outliers.

>be me
>5'10", 185 lbs.
>realizes July is here
>fuck

So I started doing high intensity shit today. I just want someone to tell me I'm gonna make it.

>>42030280
For what guys generally complain about is small. I guess some wouldn't ignore a micropenis.

>>42030274
Weights

>>42029293
volkerbrot or however it's spelled, wheat germ bread and sprouted beans bread if you really need the bread aspect. other than that, just use lettuce buns and load up on meat with saved calories.

>>42030314
>I just want someone to tell me I'm gonna make it.
We both going to make it anon!
t. anon who started dieting 3 days ago.

>>42030349
Thank you anon! :)

>>42030322
I cant buy weights without money

>>42030314
6' 189 here and same.

>>42030297
Good questions - I actually just helped a client with type 2 diabetes and he's on the path to putting it into remission.

Basically low-carb is really the key for this process. Depending on your height and weight excessive protein does turn into glucose but if you keep it to 1g per lb of lean body mass you should be pretty golden in taht regard. A handy tool that i used is the keto calculator which tells you the max amount of protein that you can take in - google 'keto ankerl' and you can enter your stats from there.

Also, you need to be careful with intake of sugar alcohol as a diabetic. A lot of atkins and keto foods boast the low carbs because they offset the sugar with that sugar alcohol. Your body can't process it so its traditionally flushed but I've seen it have some intense adverse effects on diabetics when they do try it. I haven't done the leg work on researching it as of yet but I try and steer them clear or at east keep their sugar alcohol consumption limited.

Good luck, man. You're on the right path.

>>42030366
Here's what you do. Go to a mountain or hill nearby. Get a huge ass rock. Start lifting it. The adrenaline from the fear of dying will help performance.

I wish you luck anon.

>>42030382
Good to hear there are others like me out there. :) I wish you luck brotha. You gaining or cutting?

>>42029835
What are pros and cons of calorie restriction vs keto diet?

>>42030400
Cutting my friend

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>>42030366
Total bullshit excuse. You could use anything for weights. Fucking improvise. Water, concrete, rocks.

>>42029835
Hey there, I'm 5'10". I've decided on a gaining diet, with a 1200 calorie, protein-intense diet.

I'm focusing on chest, stomach, and torso fat. What should I eat?

>>42028377
I gotta plan better, i end always up buying too much fruits, veggies and other stuff that goes bad like eggs. Then what happens is i'm not even hungry but know that if i don't eat this bell pepper today it will go bad soon. I'm still under my calorie goal on all of these days, but why eat 1800 if you could eat 1500 if you just bought less shit. The sad thing about this is that it is all because of laziness, i'm a neet, i can literally go to the grocery store 7 times a week if i want to but i rather buy grocerys for a whole week at once because i'm lazy.

>>42030256
Tried that for lunch, I don't think I wrapped it very well but it worked well enough and was low-calorie as fuck so I was able to have two. Probably shouldn't try grilling it again though.

>>42030384
I really appreciate that. Maybe one or two more questions: what does remission mean, in terms of insulin resistance?

I don't plan on going back to eating carbs and sugar heavily, but right now I'm still basically too afraid to eat them in any significant quantity. I know remission is essentially conditional, that diabetes never goes away. But in remission, will my insulin usage return to some semblance of normal?

Sorry, I'm living in a foreign county. My doctor speaks English but pretty clearly isn't a diabetes expert, and I don't have access to a nutritionist or dietician here so I've been winging it (erring on the side if caution very strongly).

>>42028008
>8
Shoot straight Mr. Lee!

you guys think the ymca is open on the fourth of july?

>>42030405
Both are calorie restriction in nature, but ketosis has the benefit of having your body quickly burn through carbohydrates (due to the limited quantity) and producing ketones which burn fat for energy. People at a heavier weight see a lot of fat loss if they're actually in ketosis but a fair amount of them don't do all the research and are just in a deficit. I don't have experience with 'lazy keto' but even on that you're still well below maintenance and burning fat under the assumption you're also exercising.

In summation...
Keto Pros -
>Body fat burned at an increased rate
>During a cut, if you lift weights in keto you're more likely to see gains in your lifts after the first 2 weeks
>Energy levels after 2 weeks are sustainable and you're less likely to feel fatigued in comparison to severe caloric restriction
>Easier for heavier people as they can begin incorporating leaner meat and cooking for themselves while still feeling full
Keto Cons -
>Keto flu if you aren't intaking electrolytes during your initial entry into this phase
>People struggle without carbs in the first 2 weeks before their body adjusts - this can be a deal breaker for a lot of first itme dieters
>High amount of fat in your diet can lead to health issues in the future so its not a sustainable long term solution. I find 'keto lifers' to be ignorant in their research
>People try to do sweets on keto with the sugar alcohol approach and end up shitting their brains out
>If you don't supplement fiber you're going to struggle with bowel movements which can lead to impacted bowel and IBS-like issues

Calorie restriction is pretty simple in comparison. If you can get your protein you can still intake carbs and keep your fats low which will still show weight loss. Keto just incorporates both.

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>>42030462
Meat.

Just wrap it in something and peel as you go.

>>42030462
Just grill the contents then wrap.

>>42030513
I don't think that will work with sliced deli meat and cheese.

>>42030531
Then you could try grilling veggies or something? Idk

>>42030434
Spot fat reduction is a miss so as long as you're still cutting your body will burn these fat deposits first. If you're intaking protein and working out you'll fill in the muscle over time but that steep of a deficit at your height may leave you hard pressed to make significant gains in your lifts. My recommendation to you is to up your calories while remaining in a deficit, eat at your forecasted protein levels and take the time to lose the weight but make muscle gains. Find a lifting program that works for you and you'll see the results you want in your chest, stomach and hips.

>>42030468
So type 2 remission is a bit more of a process. Remission in this regard is considered as 1 full year of normal A1c. You won't have to take medicine but you can't just go back to normal as its always there. Your doctor will still have you on regular checks but you do get some leeway as long as your blood sugar levels are kept in check. Insulin usage and levels will normalize to a certain degree but you'll still need to exercise and eat properly to ensure a long term fix. Once you lose the weight you want to you can go to maintenance or even a gaining diet to put on muscle but you still need to keep that blood sugar focus in mind.

>>42029884
You can get rid of the loose skin, you're just trying to fatlogic your way out of losing weight you giant lard.

>>42030502
>severe caloric restriction
I'm going for 2000 calories per day, so i dont know if it's that severe. However i'm not going to gym

>>42030592
That's fair, that's pretty much what I figured for blood sugar. One more for now: my doctor is pretty clearly skeptical about me getting off medication. I don't know why. I'm obese but not absurdly so. About two months after diagnosis, I was doing so well he reduced the dosage of medication.

My A1c last month was normal, but he said maybe in 6 months we can take me off medication. Does that seem reasonable?

I'm eating very low carb, I know I'm doing ok. I'm just not sure what kind of numbers I should be hitting regularly to press him to get me off this shit.

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>4th of july binge
holy fuck i feel awful now

>>42030681
Depends on your height and current weight so I've no way of knowing for sure. 2000 kcal seems fair though, during my long cut I was on 1800 the entire time and I'm 6'2". If there's one piece of advice I can give you, I recommend going to the gym at least 3 days a week.

>>42030689
If you continue to cut and get your weight under control, I think 6 months is more than fair for removing your medication. Make sure you're keeping your exercise routine in check but I'd refer to your bodyfat as for a hard number on what you want to be. If you can get at or under 18% body fat then I personally would find your diabetes more than managed. Keep in mind that's 1 of 12 months that your A1c has to be normal so I believe your doctor is just being cautious which is good for a doctor to be. Check back in at that 6 month mark and then just stay the course.

Set a weight loss goal for yourself. What you want to be to be comfortable then achieve it and maintain it. By the time you get to the physical fitness level you want to be I bet you'll be tentatively cured.

>>42030610
Depends on the starting weight and skin's elasticity.

>>42030724
>Depends on your height and current weight so I've no way of knowing for sure
6'4 280 lbs. I want to lose as much as possible till new year eve.

>>42030741
Then you're right on the mark, my friend. Stay the course and you'll see some pretty solid loss over the year. If you're really on point and working out I'd bet dollars to donuts that you're 200 by new years.

>usually weigh myself every morning after poop
>last few days have been unable to complete morning poop
>usually have to shit at work during my lunch break like a peasant

what do? Any zero calorie fibre supplements i should take?

>>42030724
Diabetes guy here. I'm 5'5", started at 240ish 3 months ago and I'm down to 208 as of yesterday.
My goal is around 130, at least for weight loss. Maybe a bit lower? I haven't thought about bulking yet, but I assume getting the fat off is the most important thing.

I really appreciate the advice. I'm happy to know I'm going the right way, I was terrified when I got the diagnosis.

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>>42029638
>>42029721
179cm.
>is pretty bad
It is. Losing weight has become more difficult over the years. I've been on long diets on and off for a couple decades and my metabolism has slowly become increasingly efficient - and not in the "breath around chocolate and gain weight" fat logic, I mean in a real, measured quantifiable sense.

Just for example, for over a year and a half when I was in uni I ate 1700Kc a day, measured down to the grams of honey I put in my tea, written down in a food journal I still have, and my weight was static. Starting to eat breakfast before work after I graduated made me gain weight. By now, losing weight requires me to eat less than a literal skeleton in a coffin, so progress is very slow. I go to lunch with colleagues in fancy restaurants and leave most of the food on my plate, and the waiters keep asking me if I didn't like my meal. I'm not even hungry by the end of the day, I don't have cravings, when I tried to push for 140g I would use 2 scoops with water just to spike my protons for that day, and the extra calories would often make my diet stall.

Jesus I know it sounds like fat logic and the instant reaction would be "you're not counting right", but I do and this is what I have to work with.

>>42027829
you could do a rollover trend like the Hacker's Diet describes

Here are my LibreOffice codes for it (will probably work in Excel too):
Weight in A column, Trend in B column:
B1: =IF(A1="", "", A1)
B2: =IF(A2="", "", ROUND((A2-B1)/10, 1) + B1)

Then put your cursor on the lower right of the B2 cell, drag down, and it will apply the B2 cell formula to the B cells below it

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>2 bowls of cereal in 1 day
just fuck my diet up sénpáí

>>42030827
Looks like your TDEE should be around 2,200. So if you were eating at 1,700 you would roughly be losing a pound a week. If I were you I would try limiting to around 1,500 for at least a week and weighing yourself daily. Making sure to weigh in the morning after going to the bathroom. If a week goes by and you haven't lost at least a pound then I would be concerned.

>>42030907
I thought I was the only one with a cereal addiction. The stuff is delicious

>>42030755
>If you're really on point and working out I'd bet dollars to donuts that you're 200 by new years.
Thanks, that's actually my goal - to reach 200. Would you think it's possible to reach it just by dieting? Is it possible to get muscle and lose fat at the same moment?

>>42030931
the childrens variety packs are on sale
the cinnamon cheerios are always the first to go

>>42030931
>I thought I was the only one with a cereal addiction.

You don't have a cereal addiction. You have a sugar addiction you fat fuck.

>>42030948
nah, I don't crave sweets. I sort of hate chocolate and ice cream is something I eat every one in a while.

>>42030931
this >>42030948
unless you're eating water and oats porridge or plain puffed rice it's just an excuse to get sugar in. it's like eating shitty sugary "low fat" yogurt instead of junk food. it is junk my man

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>>42030253
>you may fantasize about porn stars or waifu, but that's not actually what you want to come home to every day, is it?
Why would I not want to come home to my waifu everyday?

>>42030978
Because she doesn't exist.

>>42030997
Well of course. But whether I can and whether I want to are very different things.

>>42030971
>nah, I don't crave sweets.

Yeah you do, you're fucking addicted to cereal. This is like somebody saying "I'm not addicted to sweets! I just really like cake! I don't give a fuck about pie, cookies or brownies though!"

>>42031013
>sweet"s"
that s means plural
your analogy is flawed

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hooh boy

>>42030592
So if I'm to step up calories but maintain target protein, hoe many calories do you recommend?

>squatted 48 hours ago
>squatting now
>still sore and exhausted and can't finish

How long do I have to rest?..

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You can't get pressured into cheat meals if you don't have friends to invite you to their 4th of July parties.

>>42031020
>your analogy is flawed

Much like your overweight body and approach to improving it. But have fun ignoring your sugar addiction and not making it.

>>42031020
>sweets

Meaning you're eating more than one (plural) serving of fucking poison.

>>42031057
woah, assuming an awful lot there friend
I'd stop before you hurt yourself

>>42031077
his analogy, not mine
is cereal even a sweet?

>>42031056
>tfw you have friends and still won't go to any parties
>tfw i still wouldn't go even if i wasn't trying to cut

>>42019032
You Americans are need to drop all that "Calories" shit and measure energy in kCal like a normal literate humans. Walking is 400 Calories alright, but you consume food that has 3 orders of magnitude more energy, measured in kCal. Why would anyone drop the "k" when counting, baffles me. Anyone care to explain?

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>be on no fap for over a month and a strict diet for over 6
>having buffet dreams
>wake up with my pillow wet and my mouth sore from eating imaginary food
>tfw no gf is overpowered by my goal body that is still 6 months away maybe less
>Thinking about fitting on one of those ugly Christmas sweaters
I'm gonna make it lads

>>42031094
>is cereal even a sweet?

It's like you don't want to lose weight

>>42031102
Similar to how when I call you a tard, the "re" is implied, when people say "calories" the "k" is implied.

>>42031102
When we say calories we mean kilocalories. It's just easier and less autistic.

>>42031102
*Americans need
*literate human
*more energy stored
I'm a fucking retard

>>42031117
because of the label attached to a food...?

you're going to have to elabourate what you mean
I don't stamp things with a "BAD" label and never look at them again
do you?

Just looked at my cereal box
>corn flakes
>3g of sugars

get fuked healthies

>>42031141
>eating corn

>>42031126
But that leads to confusion, walking for an hour spends hundreds of calories, while you eat a meal which can easily have several hundreds of kilocalories. Try calculating raw energy expenditure for moving a 100 kg body upwards for 40 meters and, convert to calories and you'd be surprised how little potential energy you gained. Meanwhile imagine going upwards by feet to 10th floor, that is the same energy.

>>42031141
>looked at my cereal
never gonna make it

>>42031127
>I'm a fucking retard
never gonna make it

>>42031126
>It's just easier
never gonna make it

>>42031115
>no fap
never gonna make it

>>42031095
>i wasn't trying to cut
never gonna make it

fat fucks

>>42031220
Hey fuck you. I said IF I wasn't trying to cut. You fucking cunt. But yeah, all those others are fat fucks.

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>>42031220
It's okay, I'm making it

>>42031135
>I don't stamp things with a "BAD" label and never look at them again
>do you?

Not exactly. But if I was "addicted" to something sugary and unhealthy I would probably refrain from eating it while on a fucking cut.

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>>42031115
I've had dreams about eating/pigging out as well.

>>42031241
>entertaining the idea of not cutting

It's like you don't even care.

>order a pizza
>eat 2 slices
>feel like shit about it
>purge
>throw out pizza

I'm just gonna ban myself from pizza, huge waste of fucking money

>>42031259
yeah probably
but good and bad aren't absolutes
if you regularly snack on chocolate cheerios with full fat milk, but replace it with weetabix w/ skimmed milk, then you're doing better than before

if cold turkey works for you, super
but as people often say, it's a marathon, not a sprint

>>42030930
Your assumption about losing that pound a week is completely based on that arbitrary standardized TDEE measure, which for me is obviously incorrect; I just explained how, for a year and a half, I measured everything I ate and did not gain or lose weight at 1700k. If I ate 2200 a day I'd be gaining, fast. There's nothing to be concerned about - my metabolic rate simply became very efficient after decades of strict dieting.

>>42031259
Not him, but you realize there are all kinds of different cereals right? They're not all pure sugar.

>>42031291
I wish i'd be 1st world person that i could affort to buy pizza and throw it away. All i'm stick is rice and veggies.

>>42031308
That's why I suggested eating less than 1700k. But I guess it's better to keep complaining

Alright so far I'm on a steady 3 day streak

I got a bunch of light and fit yogurt whenever I feel hungry and can't hold off until the next meal

I excerisze on the treadmill then eat dinner
Or if I have work, I eat dinner beforehand and exercise afterwards

Any tips for good meals before and/or after excercising?

anyone here have trouble staying on a strict diet/cut for more than a month at a time? longest i've gone is like 5 weeks. i always get this strong urge to celebrate/cheat once i reach a goal. i've probably been on 4 cuts now and i'm getting to the point where i'm scared to start a new one because i know how shitty i will feel when i fall off again ;_;

>>42031352
>it's better to keep complaining
Fucking hell I'm complaining yeah, 1700kc a day for the rest of my life kist to maintain is fucking awful of course I'd go to Tibetan sheep shaving forums to complain.

>>42031420
M8 I don't have your problems and yet I will still eat anywhere from 800 - 1,300 calories on some days. I agree that it sucks that you can eat at a cut and still not lose weight. The point is that you should try cutting more until you find out at what deficit you can still lose weight and then adjust your diet and exercise accordingly.

So if you need to only take in 1,300 in order to be able to lose a pound a week then put forward your best effort to do so and on days where you feel the need to go over try and do some extra cardio to make up for it.

>>42031407
>4 cuts
you mean you're yo-yoing?

I dunno man
I find losing weight to be easy. Just a few months of deficit and I'm done, but I struggle to keep it off for any meaningful length of time.

I think we're the minority here.
Most here are on their first ever cut.

>>42030819
Sorry, went and made some dinner. Fair goal, I'd say aim for 130 but if you feel comfortable at 140 you could probably maintain there comfortably.

>>42030945
I think you'll be close just dieting but again, personal recommendation, don't just diet or else you're going to have loose skin and be pissed. At least run. And yeah, you can gain lean mass while losing fat at the same moment. Not quite that easily but you'll still make significant progress.

>>42031039
5'10", how much do you weigh right now?

>>42031141
Costco has some pretty cheap frosted flakes.

>>42031407
I know you probably want some unique advice but it's really just about willpower man. You can't have the attitude of having a cheat meal, ESPECIALLY not when you reach a fucking goal. That's the last time you should fucking cheat. "Oh boy I just got down to 200lbs! Let me celebrating by instantly ballooning backup to 205!"

It's gonna take time, especially if you're really big (duh) so you have to be thinking of that. If you have a mind set that you're almost done or that "it's just for a little longer!" then you're bound to fail.

Also, it got a lot easier for me to keep under my limit calorie wise after a few weeks. I feel like a problem a lot of people have is that they keep too many shitty foods in their diet. Sure you can still eat twinkies, but you're gonna be limited to a lot less food. Point being that it's easy to get filled up with healthy shit.

>>42031471
>I find losing weight to be easy. Just a few months of deficit and I'm done

Ideally that's what I will reach some day. But for now it's a long road just to get to a decent weight. If I did a short cut I would still be obese.

>>42031505
You're absolutely right, I can't make any excuses I guess. I think if I could cut out drinking juice, milk and soda I would be good. Obviously I've been limiting them but it's hard to give them up.

>>42031542
>I think if I could cut out drinking juice, milk and soda I would be good.

You would be a lot better off for sure. You know that feeling at night when you just want to eat one more bite? One more snack? Cut out every drink but water and you'll have enough calories to have that extra bite.

>>42031477
I weigh 185 lbs. right now.

>>42031579
Assuming you're /fat/ per the thread, I'd peg you around 130-140 lbs of lean mass. Eat at 135g of protein, around 1600 kcal a day. I like low carb but as long as you're exercising you're golden at 1600 so you could do...

135g protein leaving you 1060 kcal to work with... 120g carbs, 65g fat?

Fair, balanced diet.

Question. So my TDEE is around 2,200 so my calorie limit is 1,700. Say I do a crazy cut for a few days, say 1,000 calories, and drop 5lbs and then I go back up to 1,700 calories for the next few days I will gain some weight back and then level out eventually.

What I'm wondering is if that weight I gain after I go back to 1,700 calories is fat being gained back, or just extra weight from eating more food. Is it possible to gain weight while still on a cut if I go from an extreme cut to a less extreme cut?

>>42031704
The calculator above said I'm about 139 lbs lean, so you're spot on. Thanks for that man.

>>42031745
No worries. Happy to help.

I'm out for the evening, gents. But I'm constantly about so I'll drop in again and provide advice.

>30 mins fasted cardio upon waking up
>~60 mins lifting (today was legs)
>going to do another 30 mins of cardio tonight before bed
dropping the fat feels gud m80s

>>42031542
>juice
>milk
>soda

One of these is not like the others, anon.
Just to give you an idea, I am on an average 800-1000 calories intake per day, with about a 700-900 deficit (womanlet who almost made it to skinnyfat) and to reach my protein goal for today with easily stomachable calories (I do OMAD, and it's really tough to eat more than 700 cals in 1 sitting), I drank 4 cups of milk (309 calories, 30g protein).
It's not all black and white, for milk. Of course there are people who will overdo it, but there's a reason skellies use it to bulk up, it's because it has lots of proteins and helps with people who can't eat much.

Shit like store bought juices and all sodas should be avoided at all cost, though.
If you really can't avoid it, get sparkling water and infuse lime slices, mint leaves, or a strawberry cut into pieces in it.

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>fighting cravings but realize I'm getting closer to my goal than ever before and the hunger stops

>>42031709
That's not how it works. Your TDEE is what you need to maintain your weight. If you are eating less than it, you be losing weight.

Also, you won't drop 5lbs in a few days eating at 1,000 cals.

>>42031817
>Also, you won't drop 5lbs in a few days eating at 1,000 cals.

That was just an example for the sake of simplicity. But I have done extreme cuts and then gone back to regular cuts and gained 3-5 pounds by simply going back to normal. I figured it wasn't actual fat gain but it feels like a lot to just be the food I'm eating.

Yet again I have the issue where every night I feel motivated as fuck, ready to take on the world. and then the next day I wake up around 2PM and within 20 minutes I'm on the phone with the local pizza joint ordering a shitton of food.

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>calorie intake target 1600
there goes my gainz

>>42031896
Actually start eating right, getting regular exercise, and normalizing your sleep schedule and you'll wake up with a ton of energy.

3 months ago I would roll out of bed 15 minutes before work and shamble there while stuffing garbage in my face for breakfast.

Now I'm up two hours early, shower shave brush my teeth, prepare something to eat, and I'm actually energized for the day. It's so much better, man.

>>42031987
This, for the first time in my life I feel like a morning person

Is this thread really containment for the fat people?

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did anybody else use the holiday as a poor excuse to fuck up their diet? here's what I consumed today:
>400 calories of cheerios and milk
>720 calories 6 krispy kreme donuts
>1500 calories footlong publix chicken tender sub tossed in ranch and buffalo with honey mustard on top
>2800 calories 1 entire pack of double stuff oreos
>1000 calories 10 beers
>1.5 cans of cope longcut wintergreen
wew lad, just fuck my life up. gonna be on the shitter at my job all day tomorrow, which means a portapotty, and i'm going to be running/lifting my ass off for the next 2 weeks until I feel like I've been punished enough

>>42032051
for the fat people who do not want to be fat, and a handful of delusional ones added into the mix

>>42029287
Today I preferred inheritance over composition. I know, I might have gone too far this time.

>>42030280
this is what happens when your mind is warped from years and years of porn and 4chan. real, everyday women (for the most part) aren't size queens. as long as it's not micro, you'll be fine.

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not really fat but still pretty relevant
On a cut but my eating habbits are shit, my parents bought pecan butter tarts and i want to eat it so so badly....... i already ate one.

>>42027829
To me the mirror was always more telling than the scale, it's actually ridiculous how I would not lose weight for a month and then drop 5kg in a week, the scale was honestly not accurate on a weekly basis
t.125kg at highest, 72kg at lowest

>>42029438
Stop eating garbage, you will look skinnyfat by the time you lost the weight anyway

>>42029438
>Because my fat cut mother always nags me to eat more

Bad excuse.

>>42027803
she should also replace any butter or margarine with coconut oil (and double the amount so that she's getting those healthy fats)

>>42032228
>i already ate one.
will never make it. your willpower is shit

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>>42027734
360lbs 20 y/o m here. Been tracking calories for the past 8 days m8s. We're doing it. Stick with me bros. We can fix our bodies.

>>42032104
You're an idiot. If you're at a party/holida get together where everybody brought food or there's a cookout and you indulge a bit that's one thing. But to simply say"oh today is a holida so i'm going to go out of my way to be a fat fuck" then you've got some fucking issues m8.

>>42028377
Father I have sinned. I gained 13 pounds through the last month because of unchecked feasting during E3 with my bros. I beg your forgiveness and the forgiveness of that of the Light. I will not falter from here on out. I swear to you and to my bros.

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>>42028377
>had a regular meal
>started binging
>mfw can't stop
>eat 4000kcal
>purge at least half and do intense cardio for a little over an hour
feels good
I promise I'll never do this again hihihi.

>>42030693
Learn from this bro. We are not fatties in spirit anymore. Binging harms us now. Avoid sugar too. Hurts like ass. Soda fucks up the tummy too. I can't drink normal soda anymore.

>>42032434
>purge at least half
>feels good

Get your shit together.

>>42032456
I know, I should have purged more, but I was getting so sweaty and tired and I had bread so it was hard to get it all out. At that point I figured if I'm already sweating like a pig I might as well do cardio.

>>42032480
>I should have purged more

What the fuck

>>42029095
How tall are you? Just wondering because pretty demoralizing if skinny fat at 158 lbs.

I'm 194 lbs and 6'1 and was thinking I would be pretty skinny at like 170 lbs.

>>42032434
that's fucking gross desu but I've been there before

If you're in charge of buying your own food, just don't buy foods that are easy to binge on. That might help.

350 lbs -> 270 lbs since January. We're all gonna make it.

Always gonna be a 5'7" manlet though.

>>42032434
>feels good

It really shouldn't.

>>42032506
I'm 6ft/183cm 180lbs/81kg and I'm at 25% bf, if not more. I've been skinnyfat my whole life and this year I officially became overweight. I used to be 5'10"-5'11" 140-145lbs when I was 18 and I barely looked any different. You gotta have muscle otherwise you're always going to be skinnyfat.

>>42032104
Moderation is key. Next time just eat "just one Twix."

>>42032104
I don't need an excuse. I'll binge whenever and it usually starts with my parents bringing fast food. I can't control myself sometimes. I can easily eat over 6000kcal in one sitting, and go back for more an hour or two later. I'll never understand aushwitz fags who complain about not being able to eat more than 1500kcal a day. 1500kcal is nothing.

>>42032607
>1500kcal is nothing

You can get stuffed off of 500 calorie meals if you do it right m8. I should know, I just did it. Just gotta find what has the most quantity and quality for the lowest amount of calories.

>>42032635
I know all that shit, but I love high kcal food. Cheesecake, pizza, various fast foods. It's incredibly easy to eat 3000kcal in less than 10 minutes.
>You can get stuffed off of 500 calorie meals
lel

>>42032635
What did you eat out of curiosity?

>>42032654
>lel

Don't knock it until you try it fatty.

>>42032658
Spaghetti and meatballs, asparagus, salad with light italian dressing, tuna and 4 bottles of water = 490 calories.

>>42032434
Been there too /fat/bro. Keep your eye on the prize. I reached my goal previously and then screwed it up big-time. I almost achieved it ... again ... on numerous occasions. This led to additional binges. So yesterday I weighed myself and OH, YEAH!!! Goal Achieved. So, today instead of participating in my traditional Holiday buffet at a casino--I dined in. Dinner was a chicken & broccoli frozen dinner (180 cals & 27 gs of protein). For dessert I'm gonna have yogurt w/ blueberries & strawberries. Keep your eye on the prize! Sorry for the long post.

>>42032506
173cm

>>42032675
>Spaghetti and meatballs
>490 calories

fucking wew lad I have a hard time believing this unless you're using 2 ounces of pasta.

>>42032675
Hm. What kind of spaghetti and meatballs? Homemade with those specialty noodles?

>>42032654
>I know all that shit, but...
>lel

Absolutely never gonna make it. Are you even actually trying?

>>42032686
My instant reaction to this is that internet photo of spaghetti & sauce with all that sugar on top.

>>42032686
I would have thought the same thing 3 months ago so I don't blame you.

>>42032693
No, it was a frozen dinner. It was actually penne noodles but they tasted great. I honestly wasn't expecting much but for 280 calories it was great.

And no, it wasn't a great amount. But it was enough to satisfy me along with everything else. Like I said, it's about matching low calories with high amounts of food that you enjoy.

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>>42032708
Looks delicious dude

>>42032591
>6ft 180lbs
>overweight
Okay Mr. Skeleton

>>42032724
Thank you very much.

>>42032694
Probably gave up during a cut and is now trying to feel superior to us because he's just eating whatever he wants. Happened to my brother after he was successful and lost a lot of weight. I told him I wast thinking about trying to cut and he had already started binging again and was pretty much insulting me for wanting to consider cutting calories.

He gained back like 50-70lbs in 6months and is as big as ever. Pretty weird.

>>42032686
Dude pasta is like 130kcal per 100g cooked

>>42032675
>>42032686

Fatty denial tastes better to me than fucking milk and cookies.

>>42032744
That resembles me for the month of April. Gained 20 pounds. What a waste. Of course other factors contributed. But what a waste of progress.

>>42032729
I was 190lbs 2 months ago (26 bmi). I'm at 24.5 currently, but I'm all fat and no muscle so I pretty much look the same. When I look at those body fat % comparison pictures I look closer to 30-35% than 25%. That's how skinnyfat I am.

>>42032744
God, that must be even worse than just being fat. Always being fat and getting fatter sucked, but I can't imagine getting the weight all the way off and then regaining it while doing nothing to stop it.

>>42032781
Yeah it was very strange to me. He was always insanely skinny until his late 20s and when he did the weightloss he had probably only been big for maybe 2 years. I figured he would keep it off for good but he basically spent 6 months getting it off and the second he got there he spent the next 6 months putting it back on.

It's a good reminder for me of what can happen after reaching my goal.

>>42032760
I cook pasta almost every day. 1 oz = 100 calories uncooked, ground beef has a similar ratio. To have spaghetti, meatballs and some kind of tomato sauce and be under 500 calories must mean the portion is very small and not at all helpful to what anon was asking terms of quantity and quality.

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>>42032765
Enjoy your "meal", bro. Stuffed amirite?

Not sure how much longer I can go on. When I was a 380lbs fat fuck I was so happy. Now i'm 190lbs and think about driving my car into a river every day.

When I was 380lbs I had a fiancee that I loved, had a decent relationship with my family, healthy work/life ratio. Now i'm single, haven't talked to my family in months, and so fucking lonely I wan't to die.

>>42032826
How is one related to the other?

Weight loss, I'm assuming, wasn't the cause of those changes. Get in touch with your family and get in touch with a professional to stop being suicidal.

>little over 6'1
>290.3 lbs this morning
>315 less than a year ago after breaking leg
>bipolar, entering the worst depressive phase I have experienced
>appetite disappearing
>ate less than 1000 calories today in one meal
>feel sick like I ate too much

Should I be worried? On one hand it'll be much easier to lose weight. On the other, I don't want to lose muscle or rebound when this depression episode is over. I plan on going to the gym in august but can't rn due to travel and stuff. In the meantime what should I do? It'd be great to lose a bunch of weight quickly, but I assume this is unhealthy and I should try my best to counteract it?

>>42032813
Different guy here, but that actually looks fucking incredible. I think I could be happy eating that as a special meal.

>>42032808
dude you could have almost 400g of pasta (500kcal) and you're telling me it isn't filling?

>>42032842
Losing weight made me think i was hot shit. Started picking apart the flaws of my fiancee, after months of that she broke down crying and asked me if I loved her anymore and I said no. She moved out the next day,

Same applies to my already strained relationship with my family. Wasn't gonna take any shit anymore so after some comment from my mother that she made a billion times before I hung up on her and blocked all numbers that my family could use to call me.

Now all I do is work, not because I need money but because when i'm at work I can keep my mind off the crushing void that is my life.

I can't remember the last time I was happy.

>>42032863
Who eats 400g of plain pasta?

Did you see the part where he talked about adding ground beef and sauce, as the original poster clearly implied with "spaghetti and meatballs"?

>>42032896
So you turned into an asshole. You know the problem. Get help to fix it.

>>42032863
If you ditch the ground beef, yeah 500 calories of pasta and some light tomato sauce is filling.

>>42032813
You're a fucking idiot and will never make it

>>42032911
I guess I did, I dunno in the back part of my mind I feel like I was justified. I can list of all the things these people did that would piss me off but whats the point. Fact is i'm sitting here alone and if I ever get the balls to kill myself it would take weeks before anyone would even come knocking on my door. Would probably be the amazon delivery guy since he would see I wasn't getting my packages from my subscriptions I have.

>>42032896
Sounds like you made a wise relationship choice. You'll likely find someone better who can appreciate your new lifestyle. Sounds like the family thing wasn't really related to your weight loss. But you really do need to watch out for being overly arrogant just because you lost some weight.

>>42032911
M8 pay attention. I clarified it was penne noodles and a frozen dinner. Although to be fair I'm sure I could re-create the frozen dinner myself and get similar results.

>>42032915
Or better yet add some veggies and mushrooms instead of the beef. Hell, throw in some chicken breast for protein and have chicken parmesan.

>>42032960
I'm struggling with it defining what is arrogant and what is having some standards for myself. I know for a fact I could get my fiancee back with one phone call and patch things up with my family with the same.

I just can't bring myself to do it, I want to be treated with respect. I want my needs fulfilled for once, my preferences. Have someone tell me "It's ok, go relax I can handle this" about any life issue. With my fiancee, I felt her her fucking father, she was helpless in any adverse situation.

My mother and father? God the can worms with them I could open. I asked my mother a million times not to make this one comment, but she kept fucking doing it. And my dad, Jesus would it kill him to just fucking notice me? Does he even know now I cut ties with the family? Fuck

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Finally hit 88 kg (194 lb) and gonna start working for Uber eats and suddenly got hemorrhoids gonna be a tough starting on Thursday. Should I skip leg days while doing ppl or just skip then once a week for extra endurance while cycling. Does anyone else have experience delivering with bike?

>PSMF Day 2 of 12 that will finally be completely uninterrupted by the military, a new job or family obligations
>Burned enough calories that I could go and eat another prepared meal and still be 500 kcal under

sweet christ the pain is real. how are y'all doing?

>5'8
>255 lbs
>3 year gf left me for fail at some college
>self reflection time, holy fuck I'm fat
>ignore starvation mode, low carb, keto, vegan memes and decide to only eat 400 calories a day
>half a cup of plain oatmeal that I can never finish because its nasty
>vitamins
>a piece of tilapia with lemon pepper cooked with no oil or butter just Pam.
>water, some diet Dr pepper
>2 weeks in I'm 236, there's no way its water weight because I'm chugging more than ever.
>only noticeable downside is exercise leaves me a little more sore the next day, but I hardly do that anyway.

Why aren't more people just not eating?

>>42033087
Thanks anon.
>>42032847
Answered my question since these other fucks are busy arguing about pasta

>>42032635
>You can get stuffed off of 500 calorie meals if you do it right


This.

>be me
>go to chick fil a with friends
>freaking out
>don't want to go off on an "uuuh i'm trying to watch what i eat" tangent
>also don't want to give in
>they post calories on the menu
>get 24 grilled chicken nuggets with bbq sauce and unlimited water
>510 calories
>76g protein
>lift later on
>get maid gainz

>>42027734
>29g above my daily sugar req.
>still below calorie count.

ree

>>42033140
>24 chicken nuggets
>510 calories

Wat da fuck

>>42033128
Ride the depression, its liberating not having an appetite when you're normally a fat fuck. Also muscle can be regained pretty easily afterwards and you won't have to worry about trying to magically balance the two.

>>42032971
Yes, and it had ground beef and tomato sauce which was my point. I get the portion was small, that's not what I was responding about. 400g of pasta is a lot, but nobody just eats 400g of pasta.

>>42033016
These are issues for a therapist. Please go and talk to one, their entire job is helping people work through this kind of stuff.

>>42033175
Thanks man, appreciate it. I'll definitely do so and not worry too much.

>>42033337
>>42033337
>>42033337

>>42027829
Weight yourself at the end of the week

I do the same with calories. If I go over a day, I don't worry too much since I look at it on a weekly basis.

Somebody bought krispy kreme donuts at my house. Got home from work, saw that shit. Stared at it for a minute. Walked right the fuck away. Think im getting some self discipline. The old me would have never passed up beloved sugar-dough. Made a tuna patty instead, delicious af

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>>42027829
There's an app called "happy scale" you enter your weight in as much as you want and it makes a graph showing your weightloss trends.