/run/ - Running General

Threadly reminder lads https://www.strava.com/clubs/fitizens

Anyone training for a fall marathon or IM around? How's your training going?

>>42027487
Have a half in September and an ultra in October. Training is going well, although I need to do a bit more hill work I think. 3.25 marathoner so well conditioned generally

>>42026819
Keep going Anon, you're gonna make it for sure. I'd say running is the easiest /fit/ to plateau at.

>>42027516
How long did it take you to get there? I have my (second) marathon in september and I'd like a 3h20 or so. My first one last year was a pretty painful 3h45, so I'm not sure how realistic this is.

Hey cucks will running give me passable looking legs? I hate squatting and love cardio. I want to jog at least 6-7 hours a week.

>>42029189
do you mean passable by /fit/ standards? no way

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>>42029378
No I just mean human standards. I'm doing chin ups and push ups for upper body. Will probably use a weight vest eventually. But I just want to do 42-48 miles of cardio a week for my whole leg work out.

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Ran 11.6km in 1h05m, not fast by any means it was more of a challenge to "run" up the longest hills in my town.

>picture related

>>42029189
Yes. My calves and thighs are larger than my upper body and I barely do squats. I run 10 miles every few days. I spend all my lifting Time on core and upper body to match. It's a great look on a natty

>>42029664
No ones standards but your own matter anon

You'll always be inadequate or adequate to another person, it just depends

Hey /fit/,

I started running again last week. So far I run every other day and am hitting about 9 minutes per mile running around 30 minutes each day so far. I want to run all the time though. How many days a week can I run without destroying my body?

In addition, I want to run a half marathon in a couple months. I figured I'd just add a couple minutes of running each day until then. Am I going to die doing that?

Thanks bros

>>42028445
Each race is different man, in a marathon at least 8 mins can come from believing you can do it. It's as much mental as technical. I've been running since 17 and am 22 now. I'm much faster up to 10k. My 5k is 16.21 and 10k is 33.41 I do lots of speed work at track and it really helps, as does having light shoes and good form

>>42029724
Mirin the glute gains from that elevation

>>42029795
>am I going to die doing that?
Yes. First get very comfortable with running the 10K and then build up to a half marathon.

Running 5-6 times a week is very doable without destroying your body, as long as you keep good running posture and don't overdo it.

>>42029795
No. I'd say depending on general level of fitness (not being fat ass) that one rest day a week is fine. Try to mix sessions up. Do hill work, speed or tempo session and a longer slower run a week. So 3/4 sessions min

>>42029795
>Am I going to die doing tha
Yes

Hey /fit/. Will enter my first competition (10k) in two month. You have any tips?
Atm I do 2 slow 30 min runs, 1 max effort 30 min hill run and 1 max effort interval run with some basic strength exercises per week. In addition I hit the gym 2 times a week one day legs the other core. Would love to train upper body too but my shoulder is fucked.

Ive been on a two month break due to hip bursitis. Been doing Myrtle routine every other day and the pain is mostly gone. Is it safe to start running again? I also think my form is shit. Been heelstriking alot.

>>42027487
I did a half marathon a week ago but I was sick and completely fell apart and barely finished. I'm planning to do another one in October.

>>42030680
What was your time?

>>42030613
30 min slow runs are not enough, you should be doing 12-14 km long runs, the idea being that you won't get tired towards the end of your 10k race.

>>42030694
2:07. In the second half I did like 7 minute kms, I had literally never ran that slow before. I'm just proud I finished to be honest.

hello i am skelly. how will running shape my body? doing c25k atm

>>42029724
11.6km in 1h05m is pretty respectable for a beginner/recreational runner, well done if you ask me.

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Do you ever find this machine particularly handy for anything or are they just for body builders and whores?

>>42029795
>How many days a week can I run without destroying my body?
Professionals run up to 200 kms a week, 6 days a week, many days twice.

It's all about being smart about it and building up to it. And having proper form and shoes.

Start by increasing your mileage while still running slowly and comfortably. Focus on your form, try to keep your legs from hurting -- you'll very likely get all kinds of pain, shin splits etc. as you run more, so don't overdo it. Do this for a couple of weeks/months and only then think about specific workouts. It's tempting to get into intervals, tempo runs, fartleks etc. but they don't really accomplish much if you're a beginner, simply running is all you need.

>>42030699
I was thinking about reducing the leg workout intensity and do at least one longer run per week. Would you suggest doing 12-14km one or two times a week?

Finally got my 1.5 mile run time to 8:45 seconds from when I started at 15 minutes last year. The goal is 8 minutes, how much longer will it take doing 4 runs and 3 day's strength training to get there?

>>42030830
No, once a week is quite enough. Look up some 10k training plans, you don't have to start following any but it will give you an idea about how to structure your week. They are usually very similar and follow the same principles.

>>42030717
Better luck next time. Is there a specific time you are aiming for in October?

>>42030874
I'm around 1:50-1:55 when I train and take it somewhat easy. I'm not sure what it will translate to in a race, I'm not that experienced. Maybe something like 1:45 would be doable.

>>42030873
Hm those 10k plans I looked at have 2-3 times per week 10k+ runs some even up to 20k. Gonna integrate some slow long runs in my trainings schedule i guess...

>>42030920
How long have you been running? Was it your first competition?

Hey, is it all right to walk in a run or is it the height of disonorabu?

>>42031070
It's shamfur dispray

run short distance or get better pacing if you hit a wall halfway though the run

>>42031048
Around 2 years, a bit more. I started by doing couch-to-5k and continued on and off from there.

It was my first half marathon, I've ran a few 5k races in the beginning and a 10k last year. I'm planning on doing a marathon next year if all goes well.

To be honest, I don't think I'm naturally good at running, I think it comes easier to many others, but I enjoy it. That being said, I don't run that much either, I do 2-3 runs a week. Most non-beginner training plans have you run 4-5 times a week, so maybe if I applied myself more I'd be somewhat good, but whatever.

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What shoes are you wearing /run/?

I just got pic related and have done a few runs in them. Exactly what I was looking for: lightweight and flexible, while still having decent cushion.

>>42031125
I guess pacing is where I need to improve.

I find that if I need to run at a fairly slow speed due to being exhausted I'll just give in and turn it into a 30 sec walk before I can go back to the normal pace again, It sucks ass.

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>>42031227
Flyknit racers for race day

>>42031012
What have you looked at?

Most of them look like this:
http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_4/137.shtml

Keep in mind that this is fairly advanced -- easy runs should feel easy and kinda like walking. If your easy runs don't feel like that, you should have a less intense schedule.

Running without rest days is tough for novices. I don't care how fit you are, your legs need to adjust to all the beating that they take during running. And they do, but it takes time.

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>>42031227
Pegasus 33 at the moment. It's probably not the best shoe but I started off by randomly buying Pegasus 31 and then I got 32 and now I have 33 and plan on buying 34 because I don't see why not, I'm happy with them.

They are good looking shoes, too.

Hey /run/ do you like to listen to music while you run?

What devices do you use? (mp3 player, headphones)

I used to use the ipod that's the size of a shuffle but had a screen (can't remember the name) and pretty basic over the ear athletic ear buds. Sadly this was a while ago so I'm trying to figure out what to use, I mostly go running outdoors on nature trails.

>>42031329
I just got a fit2 to sync with my phone and track my runs. It cam hold a good amount of songs, but you have to play it through wireless bluetooth headphones which can be a pain in the dick.

>>42026819
I do 8k in ~42 minutes. Is this a good pace? I just want general fitness, not training for a race or anything. Is it true that you should run slower to burn more fat?

>>42031360
I really dislike having my phone with me on a run, that was the biggest reason I loved my shuffle.

I also hate storing music on my phone.

I guess I'm picky.

>>42031329
I use Jaybird X3 headphones, they were quite expensive but I'm very happy with them. I used to run with wired headphones before and I wouldn't go back, wireless is much more practical.

And I carry my phone in a Spibelt, I want to have my phone with me anyway just in case. The belt is a necessary evil as I can't find any good running shots irl which would hold my phone correctly.

>>42031363
It's okay. I can do it in 35 and the standard for US Army Rangers is something like under 40 so you're in no bad shape but definitely have somewhere to go if you want to

Just did a 5k in 24:26. Doesn't sound impressive, but 2 weeks ago I was a fat smoker who couldn't run for literally 2 mins without having to stop for breath.

On the downside, my left knee is a bit fucked.

>>42031070

The way I see it, at the end of the day it's the time that counts.

If you need to walk just slightly and doing so gives you a better time than someone (or yourself) that 'ran' all the way you still did it in a better time.

It's still better to run though and learn how to properly pace yourself so you don't walk though...

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>>42031329
I use my phone on an armband and just listen to it without headphones since sometimes I run with a friend
>>42031267
I use the Brook glycerin 15, got it for my birthday and it's like running on a cloud pic related

I think my form is shitty but I'm not sure, what is the ideal running form?

Just signed up for the strava, but im not too sure how this site works.

Do I have to track my workouts with a app or can I post them to Strava?

Currently using nike training app for running, gives me a plan too - running a half marathon in Oct

>>42031417
thats fantastic actually.

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>>42031363
yeah bro, that's good. pic related, from left: you, your boy, and the narrator.

>>42031382
Me too, and that's one reason I got the watch. I can put the songs on it and leave my phone at home. I used to run with a Garmin watch and phone strapped to my arm. Now it's just this watch, which I'd be wearing to track my time and mileage anyway.

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>>42031522
How long have you been waiting to use this pic?

>>42031523
the fit2 you're talking about? It can store music without needing to be attached/ bluetooth attached to the phone?

That sounds like a pretty good option then. It's a little expensive though, and I don't care about tracking my runs but it looks like a cool device and I'll keep it in mind.

>>42031497
Thank you!

>>42026819
anyone using any GPS watches? Im looking at the garmin 735xt my phone's GPS eats up battery really fast, was also hoping to get some tracking on cadence.

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>>42031465
landing mid foot, try not to heel strike too much. my shoes have about 100miles on them the mid foot is getting more worn down than the heel.

>>42031491
IIRC, you can connect a garmin or nike account to it so your run is posted to both. You can also manually put it in, just won't have a map or anything.

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>>42031227
new balance 1500v3 i liked the more snug heel cup, the zants had too much padding on the ankle for me.

>>42029189
DO HILL SPRINTS.
I've completely substituted leg day at the gym with them. I jog 1.5 miles to a steep hill in a state park. It takes about 12 seconds to sprint up it with maximum effort. I do that until I want to die. Then I jog back.

It develops your entire lower body proportinally and makes you feel fucking awesome.

>>42030753
I do HIIT on them for 15 minutes for 100% effort.

It works great

>>42030818
This is completely wrong. Jogging a few miles per week did absolutely nothing for my 2 mile run. Interval training vastly improved anything under 6 miles

This board memes the fuck out of "dude lmao just jog real slow for 3 hours and build that aerobic base"

Maybe if you are training exclusively for a marathon.

Benching 135 for 20 reps is not going to build you up like repping 225 for 5

>>42031465
I lurk here most of the time but this thread I can actually help people even more then lifting. This man knows what shoes to get, listen to him. Brooks are the best running shoes you can buy. Hands. Down.

Is running with a backpack in any way bad

A trip to the grocery store is about 3 miles, then I carry chicken and rice back but I usually just walk most of it.

>>42031647
Yeah it can, then play it through bluetooth. You can catch them on sale for $140ish. I think it's well worth it because of all the other things it does. Especially if you've ever wanted a smart watch.

>>42032293
It's bad for your joints. If you can avoid it then do so.

Walking with a loaded backpack is much better.

>>42032222
I wore Brooks exclusively (last pair were ghosts) but i found them to be too heavy/clunky and inflexible. We'll see in winter if I regret going to a lighter shoe, but right now I'm loving it.

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>>42031227
Brooks Cascadias. I do a lot of trail running, and I really like how stable they feel when you hit uneven terrain. They're also super reliable. After having them for 9 months, they survived tough mudder.

>>42031465
>>42031911

Just wanted to add to the discussion on running technique, when I started running I spoke with a friend of mine who did track in university and ranked top 100 marathon in Canada, he said the best technique is to go heel to toe, and that mid foot will lead to shin splints. I originally thought mid foot as well but then asked him and he told me otherwise.

Thoughts?

>>42029189
No. If you want lifter legs, you have to lift. Running will give you better legs than nothing, but it won't get them big

>>42032435
I've mostly been walking it and it's given me a good workout for being a fatfuck.

I'll start running that distance with no backpack next time.

>>42026819
just went for a run, strava is telling me i just burnt 1400+ calories, is that real?

>>42033892
How far, and what are your stats (age, height, weight, etc.)

>>42033484
And sprinting (power) will do more for your legs than distance (endurance)
It's the difference between a 5x5 and a 12x3

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>>42033915
11.7 miles, first leg was faster than the return run. 42/5'6"/135lbs

>>42033290
Forefoot strike vs heel strike is really just a matter of preference. Heel strike is usually a harder impact, but good shoes will take care of that. The really important thing is to make sure that you're hitting the floor directly under you, and not in front.

>>42027005
The weekly leaderboard on the strava group should be run only. Fuck the tri people and the bikers.

>>42027005
just joined... am i gunna make it?

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>tfw first time 5k no stop on monday(2 days ago) and today(wednesday) first 10k nonstop
apparently the trick is to just keep running

>>42034104
>today(wednesday) first 10k nonstop
nice work!

>>42031465
Land mid foot, splay toes to absorb impact. To start (if you're used to heel striking) your calves will be screaming, so start trying barefoot or in a lower profile flatter shoe, a few kilometres and up slowly. You will get used to it, you will get less injuries, have more fun and be faster. Watch some YouTube tutorials. The Run Experience and the Harry Runs are two good ones.

>>42034104
Lol. You can literally get through any race distance with that mentality. Keep up the good work Anon

>>42033957
You burn approx 1kcal per kilo of weight per kilometres run. So for you 1159 seems ore accurate. But depends on the intensity and heat rate zone

>>42032209
you're stupid

the guy was asking about running 10ks, not 2 milers

aerobic base is for endurance, of course you need speed work specifically to get faster

if you want to train 5-6 days a week, there is no way you can do that while running at max effort everyday, so you need a lot of easy runs

all in all, you don't know what you're talking about

>>42033892
>>42033957
sounds about right, welcome to endurance sports

>>42034893
Yeah this. You should have at least one easy run a week, ideally more, one race pace, one tempo or speed session (alternate per week) and ideally some hill work. The last 2 are the only way to get quicker, but the easy run is integral for keeping endurance and also keeping legs loose after the tougher sessions

>>42031363
My 10k is 34 mins, but I race a lot of 10ks. For a leisure runner anything in the 10 min mile is fine. 8k is about 5 miles so you're doing fine.

>>42031417
Great time. At local parkrun you would be looking at a position close to the top. Mine has some fast bastards. I run a 16.21 5k and usually finish 4th/5th. Rest the knee up anon and go for a slow easy 5 miler when it feels better. Don't push it too much if you're new to running

>>42032165
Had hill session at my club last night. My calves always cry for mercy the next day!

>>42034880
>You burn approx 1kcal per kilo of weight per kilometres run.

interesting formula, ill keep that in mind.

>>42034900
>sounds about right, welcome to endurance sports

I guess this means I should eat more today.

>>42033957
You entire run is downhill?

>>42031271
I was talking about km not M though. I think I can handle daily runs but need to scale the gym down to make it work. How much leg work would you suggest in the gym while preparing for a contest?

>>42031182
Depends on your goal I guess. To be fit and healthy 2-3 runs a week is enough I would think but to do well in competitions it is not enough. What was your 10k time?

>>42034095
You are gonna make it. Now go fucking run.

trying to take my speed from 14kmh to 16-18kmh for consistent running, help how do i do this

>>42036896
Join a running club, get down to a track and do some speed work. 8 x 500m 4 min intervals

>>42036908
I've been doing uphill stuff to try build strength but it's killing calves, only been doing uphill stuff for a week, is this a good option because I don't like clubs

>>42036922
It will help when you get to a flatter course, but nothing compares to speed work and intervals. Maybe you can do them outside if you have a GPS watch. Go 10 to 20 seconds faster than your race pace for 400 or 500m then jog for 200m and repeat until you feel like dying.

>>42030486
this

Form makes it or breaks it for some people. Thank god I did track and xc with marathon runners, olympic track trainers and yoga instructors for coaches. I was ignit of the shit I had going for me back then but definitelly appreciate it now.

As for light shoes, I honestly prefer to run in cross country flats. The arch support is great, light shoes, great traction, spiffy af designs and they're relatively cheap so I don't mind replacing them every 6 months.

>>42037222
I run my local parkrun barefoot. It's mega fun. Mirin those trips too bro

3 days gym, one 5 mile, one HIIT session per week, 2 mile walk every day, thoughts? Want to focus on getting bigger but don't want to neglect fitness.
Any good HIIT routines, ideally would include press ups, sit ups etc. Kind of want to take up boxing this autumn. When should I have my leg day in relation to the fitness days?
Sorry if this is in the wrong thread but Iwanted to get some runners opinions. Gonna cross post it to QTDDTOT. Thanks in advance.

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Hey /Run/ I'm currently only lifting, should I pick up running?

I'm 5'10, 155 lbs with 12% bf. My heart rate is at a healthy 49bpm. Give me some advice

Just starting running again after a year.
Trying the couch to 5K.
What's a good starting walking and running speed? I know it will differ from person to person but I'll take any input.

>>42038368
Try 7mins/km running to start and see how that feels like, shorten or increase as you feel fit. You should be able to have a short convo giving short answers to questions, but not full blown fucking speeches. And walk as fast as you feel comfortable as this is your recovery time

>>42037992
You should do cardio for the general health benefits, but you don't have to run unless you want to get better at running.

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I finally did it. I finally ran a 5k without stopping. time was 26:40. Getting back from an injury is a mother fucker.

Is it true running is bad for your knees?

>>42038934
Congratulations dude!

>>42039718
No, no link has been found. Some studies even suggested the opposite, that running decreases inflammation.

The thing is that if you have bad knees running will let you know about it.

>>42037992
You should do some sort of cardio a few times a week, it's good for you.

It's up to you what you want to do, but I would recommend running to anyone -- it's cheap, available and gets you outside. Maybe it's different if you don't have a full time office job but I've never been an outdoorsy type but I really love going for a run in the park or on the trails nowadays.

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>tfw I did make a 5k in 25:20 this week
>beat pb by 40 seconds

SUB 25 NEXT LADS

>>42031070

Depends what kind of running you're doing.

Walking between sprints is almost essential if you're doing high intensity interval training.

>>42037992

Ignore broscience. Cardio helps your gains as long as you're supplementing lifts rather than replacing them.

>>42040332
nice job anon godspeed

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>>42040332
Eyy congrats man
keep it up

I haven't tried setting a 5k goal/record yet but I really want too.

My 10k is currently 50:08 and I really want to get sub 50 next 10k I sign up for

we can do this lad

>>42033510
Running with an empty backpack is fine. How could that possibly be bad for your joints?
>>42040332
After that aim for sub 23 then sub 20
>>42040428
This I went from being underweight with little muscle to being a normal weight with good muscle, only running long distance, no lifts
If you did both you definitely could put on more mass and get the benefits of increased cardiovascular health & a healthy inflammatory response
Make sure not to run near heavy traffic. Elevation > distance when trying to escape bad air as a general rule of thumb.

I've taked running up again (or a slow jog followed by breathlessness, really) after moving to a new town. Is there a good site which will plan a run for me by distance, from doorstep to doorstep?

>>42041159
Map My run on the Web. The mobile site and app are shitty though.

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>>42027005
ayy just joined, I did not know you guys created a club, and I am in the top ten.

>2-3 years ago, started walking on a treadmill
>slow build up, ran some races
>23:xx 5k, 1:55:xx half
>stopped racing
>60-100km running without training aim
>loving trail runs

Considering planning an ultra trail race, but still deciding how much training time I need.

>>42041159
strava

>>42042223
>>60-100km running without training aim
I meant 60-100km / week

So how much does the hot weather affect your runs?

My PB for a 10K was 47.03minutes when the temp was around 6C. All the 10k runs I've done in the June/July months have hovered around the 49 minute mark but sometimes just over 50 minutes.

Can't wait until the temperature drops again during autumn.

>>42042248
I lose a minute or so per km when the temp is below -20C, but I like the runs a lot more.

>>42036896
>using kmh instead of min/km

>>42042248
Fucks my heart rate something fierce and slows me down by about 1-2 minutes depending on how hot it is (anywhere between 90-106 F usually). Morning and evening runs are where it's at.

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Does anyone know a good program to increase endurance and speed??

>>42043476
F A R T L E K S

Is it safe to run if you're over 100kg? Or should I focus on losing weight via diet and just cycling or walking for cardio?

>>42043496
You can honestly try it and if you're able to do it, just do it at a slow pace and don't be afraid to walk. If you find it difficult, it may be easier to start with walking/cycling first and then gradually move to running. Just listen to your body.

>>42043496
>>42043533
Also, you want to try to keep a conversational pace in order to build an aerobic base. You can use a HRM but generally just using the conversational rule is much easier and cheaper.

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>>42026819
If I lift heavy 3 days a week, and run three days a week (3, 6, 7 miles respectively) will I become a skelly or will I keep my baby gains?

>>42026819
I'm doing a 16 mile trail run with a barely 10k capable body, how fucked am I? It's at the end of august.

>>42044404
Try and jump on a Hal Higdon training program, my dude. You might try and shoot for a half marathon plan and up the long runs at the end of the week to match up with what you're running but I don't see any reason as to why it wouldn't work.

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Tell me you can't relate.

>>42044421
I can't relate because my girlfriend is slow as fuck.

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>>42044421
What do you think when you're trailing behind a random girl? Do you get paranoid that they think you're "creeping on" them?

>>42044472
Ain't gonna lie. The thought that they see me as creeper turns me on.

>>42044420
It's a spartan race, so would lifting be beneficial? Would I see any benefits if I did?

>>42044558
I mean, if it's an obstacle course raise where you have to potentially lift your own bodyweight over something or climb or whatnot, then yeah, lifting will probably help you out a bit.

>>42044970
>raise
Race*

>>42026819
>been running for 2 months
>motivated me to quit smoking
>motivated me to eat better
>no longer need a nap after work, just run and go to bed at a decent hour
>don't even know if i look better
>but i feel better
>feelsgudman

dead, lads.
Only been running 2 weeks, started off with a mile then 1.5, then 2 on Sunday. tried 3 miles yesterday and calves are now shot to pieces.
help?

>>42045896
thats good, give it a rest for 2 days or so, eat a good amount of protein rich food so your calf muscles can recover faster.

the calf pain after running will go away after about 2 more weeks or so. just be careful not to overexert yourself in the beginning as it may lead to injury.

keep it up my man.

>>42042248
Sounds about right. If you look at the top marathoners, their time can fluctuate even as much as 15 minutes depending on the course and weather.

>>42044361
just make sure to eat appropriately

there is a rectangle lap from my house around my neighbourhood that is about 1km each lap
so far I can do about 2 laps before my lungs give out but my body and legs feel fine
can anyone recommend a routine that can help me build endurance and last longer
there is a slight gradient up one way and down the other

>>42046349
Just keep doing it. Go slower for 2 and a half laps, then 3 next time until you can do 5 even if pace is slow. Then work on doing the 5 laps 10 seconds faster next time and so on. It's a gradual process. The saying in running goes, "if you can faster, go further". Trust me, it does get easier. I started like you and I'm a sub 17min 5k runner now.

Wanna get into running.
Is there a graph for C25K from the pastebin, because I don't wanna pay for an app.

Plus I don't wanna take my phone on my runs, it'll only distract me.

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I need your help /fit/, after 20 minutes of running my nose get so runny it fucking drips and sometimes I'm even unable to breath through my nose anymore. What I'm doing wrong? I run in the city btw.

>>42045399
Keep it up my man, great job!

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>>42046848
I found this, is this one decent?

>>42046871
>>42046848
This one looks fine. I have a few friends doing it that have struggled on week 6 due to the jump from 2x10min running to 25min, but you can adjust this if needed in my opinion.

>>42044421
>tfw no qt fast runner gf
On the other hand, this is the best thing about races. Although, as I get faster, there's less and less qts running at my pace.

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Bruhs any pro tips on carb loading? A quick googling just gave me
>eat a lot of carbs before ur race lol
but i remember reading some more detailed instructions somewhere.

I'm fit and a good runner but too autistic to run during the daylight when people can see me and hate exercise at night because I can't sleep after. How do I end my autism

>>42046767
cool thanks

>>42047036
Go running very early in the morning. You might still see people, but not as many as later in the day

>>42046848
the app is great and free as well last time i checked(was the zen labs one)

it has this voice that tells you when to start running and to take walk breaks, its super useful for beginners. id highly recommend using the app.

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Looking at a refurbished Garmin 235 for $208 on Amazon. I usually shy away from refurbished, but it's a big discount and Garmin is pretty reliable. It'd be my first GPS watch.

Worth it?

>>42047662
If that's what you're looking to spend then you won't get more watch for the money. Garmin app ux is good too and watchea and go's performance top tier. I'd take it.

I got catcalled the other day while I was running, obviously I am the sexiest man on the planet.

>>42047228
I see there's a pro one that costs something.
I'll try the free one then.

>>42026819
top guy only has a 19min 5k wtf
>tfw no garmin
If only I prove how autistically good at running I am :(

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What are the best shoes you can get in the ~$30 range? What should I be looking to snipe when they go on sale?

Yesterday I ran 4.5km in 23min, am I close to run 5km in 20 min?

Has anyone here done that?

So I've been running for over a year now, and recently I've upped my effort. My nipples started chafing today and thats never happened, had to stop since that shit hurt pretty bad. How do I go about this from here on out?

>>42048279
Run with the strava app on your phone.

>>42048619
For me it depends a lot on the tshirt material. very light tshirts usually work best. Cotton tshirts mean dead nipples for any run longer than 5k

I've lost 15 kilos, I'm so hyped about starting running again after I'm done losing weight. Hopefully I'll see some real improvement in my speed. I've also been reading Jack Daniels' book, so I'll have some real program and not just "5 5Ks every week".

>>42048656
I did use a shirt thats different in material from the other 2 I usually use, thats probably it then? I've used this shirt for a while but recently I've been running over 5ks for each of my runs, so that may be it

>>42048283
Forr racing or long distances? Get a few versions old copies of Adidas Supernova Glide boosts or Nike Pegasus for distance. For racing Asics Hyperspeed 6 or piranha sp5 are good budget options, or ya know, just run barefoot and save all your money
>>42048283
>What are the best shoes you can get in the ~$30 range? What should I be looking to snipe when they go on sale?

>>42048667
Godspeed anon, you're gonna make it

>>42048778
Daily run shoes. Treadmill shoes. Running as part of a regimen shoes. "My heels feel like someone hit me with a sledgehammer despite me being light on my heels" shoes.

>>42048833
Any boosts from Adidas or zooms from nikes. Best cushion shoes without doubt

If you pussies want to run (or ride) faster and stronger I've got one piece of advice for you, #carbthefuckup

T. Sub 2.40 aussie marathoner

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>>42048910
teach me ur carb secrets bruv

t. >>42046966

>>42049040
>>42048910
Add me to the carb load class senpais. I also want to learn to do that properly.

>>42049090

teach me ur carb secrets bruv

>42049040

Theres a cool geezer on YouTube, Durianrider. Check him out for all your Carb info brah

>>42049121
>Durianrider

Isn't he married to that crazy banana bitch? I'll check it out though.

>>42049243
Fuck you he's with Tori now, fuck Freelee the cunt

>>42026819
How do I get high off running? For how long do I run and at what intensity?

>>42046854
bring a few napkins to blow it all out. should be good after that

>>42046854
You're not doing anything wrong. Weird shit happens to people when they run. I get a runny nose a lot during spring and fall because of allergies. You just gotta learn to snot rocket while you're running. Don't bring a fucking handkerchief with you or some shit, just blow it out while you're running and wipe it on your shirt or shorts. Who fucking cares?

>>42047905

Lucky you.

I just get snarky comments from dumb teenagers.

>>42048583

No.

You're looking to improve your performance by about 20% to reach that target and that is a big jump.

Give it a good 3-6 months of dedicated, focused training and maybe.

>>42048619
>How do I go about this from here on out?

-Vaseline
-Lip gloss
-Plasters
-A better shirt

>>42049040
>>42049090

>http://fellrnr.com/wiki/Nutrient_Timing

>>42046871
This is what I did except that I started at week 3 I think. Can recommend, just make sure to repeat workouts/weeks if you don't meet the expectation.

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Need your help here.

Started running again after a year break, just figured I would jump in and do 3-5 (slow, with sprinting intervals when I could) miles each day with steep inclines. About a week in, right foot started getting swollen. Kept running on it for probably another month or so. Stopped running last month as it's now constantly swollen and I can feel acute pain on the outer side of my foot.

Did I fuck up? Odds this heals by itself?

Pic related - 4 year old shoes I've been running on.

>>42047662
>>42047743
>If that's what you're looking to spend then you won't get more watch for the money.
This. There are a bit better watches out there but not for 200 bucks.

If you don't have any watch right now just get it. I recently switched from running with my phone to running with this watch. I logged 85 runs on my phone but now wouldn't go back, the watch is more accurate, comfortable and convenient.

>>42049315
You don't, runner's high is not a real high. What it refers to is that during some long runs you get over a hump and suddenly feel great, don't feel any pain and the kms are just flowing by.

>>42047905
Last weekend I was running shitless (I don't usually do it, but it was hot and I was in an empty park) and some girl took a picture of me. One of the highlights of this year t b h.

>>42049914
>shitless
it was supposed to be "shirtless"... but this is pretty funny

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My running shoes got completely torn up last saturday. Not only are they worn out, but they're so nasty the dog won't even piss on them.

What are some good running shoes for a reasonably overweight 30-something running for exercise on mostly gravel roads and forest trails? With occasional obstacle races and 10k runs.

Pic related.

>>42049624
I see, thanks anon

>>42026819
Greetings from /plg/ runlads, I'd like to get my 5mi/10k time down but obviously don't want to get weak. I train 3x/wk full body, wondering what you recommend for improving my times, keeping in mind that this is a slightly lower priority than my lifts.

Right now I basically do an A/B/A/B thing maybe three times a week where A is a longer fartlek and B is more of a "go kind of fast" run for three or four miles.

>>42050025
if you want proper trail running shoes look into brands like Hoka, Altra, Saucony

if not Nike, Adidas, Asics... and I've heard that Sketchers actually makes very solid but cheap running shoes (it's a different department than their other sneakers)

>>42050094
2-3x a week easy, slow runs
1x speed workout, probably intervals

just doing speed work is like just doing curls, you need the long, slow runs as a base

I haven't run before, ever and a few days ago and then again today I used a treadmill for the first/second time and it seems i'm capable of running at 7mph in intervals of 1 minute (going down to 3mph then back) for about 15 minutes. How would I go about increasing my endurance? I'd like to be able to run consistantly instead of in intervals.

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>>42049433
>bring a few napkins

>>42049501
>Don't bring a fucking handkerchief

I'm scared to snor in public. I don't want too look like a fucking snot covered goblin while running, it will scare the cuties away.

>>42050116
Okay, sounds pretty manageable. I typically do PM lifting then run the next AM, seems like a schedule I can stick to pretty easily.

Shit

This is really an encouraging, positive thread.

I used to love running when I was 15 - 19, and quit after that without any reason. Now I'm 28 and dream of the distances I pushed when I was younger.

Maybe tomorrow I should go for a run

thx lads

>>42050102
Any love for Solomon or Icebug? They seem to be in about the same price range.

No local shop carries Altra or Saucony, I'd prefer to try them on in the store.

>>42030613
Did my first 10km a month ago, managed it in 55mins. My training was running 3 times a week.
Run #1 was a shorter, slightly faster than race pace run (9min/mile)
Run #2 was an interval training, 1 mile warmup, then 6x3min runs @ 7:30min/mile pace with 90 secs rest between each interval. Then 1 mile back cool down at slower tempo.
Run #3 was race pace longer run, nothing longer than 4.5miles.

Never actually run a 10km distance before race day. Tapered it in a bit the week of the race and didn't do over 4mile on any runs. Only trained for 6 weeks, starting with 2miles and increasing my run distance by .5mile each week. If you can do 4.5mile by race day, the adrenaline on the day will get you through the rest

>>42049914
>and some girl took a picture of me

You never know whether they took it to mock you later or whether they were genuinely interested.

Should have jogged over to her and initiated conversation.

>>42048850
Unfortunately they're a price tier or two above my limit.

>>42050199
>This is really an encouraging, positive thread.

Go along to a running event - 5K local, 10K big event, whatever.

You'll find the atmosphere in general is pretty welcoming and encouraging.

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I am the best spartan racer in the midwest bros.

>>42050635
>Never actually run a 10km distance before race day.

Genuinely it's a good idea to sometime during your training overshoot the race distance but doing it as a slow, easy run.

You should always be able to actually run the distance you want to compete in before competing in it.

The golden rule of races - never do something on the race day you haven't practiced in training.

http://fellrnr.com/wiki/The_Golden_Rule_of_Racing

>>42042248
It's fucking rough pal. All my runs have added 5% in time at least.

>>42049501
Fuck off you disgusting piece of shit

>>42050767
If I would've had more time then I'd have done at least 1 x 10k practice run before the day. Hopefully got it in me to a half by the end of the year.

>>42050713
I live in the south where the majority of people are fat fucks, so it's easy to get 'mired by local grills, but my "im gonna make it" moment came from me jogging past some 10/10 Florida jailbait girl on vacation who was mirin so hard she smiled.

Her mom was right with her though or I mightve risked it.

>>42027487
I plan on running marathons by the end of 2017. Currently running 30 km on my longest runs

>>42050025
Brooks Cascadias are my go to trail running shoes. They feel really stable on uneven surfaces.

>>42049876
http://www.runnersworld.com/ask-the-doctor/ask-the-doctor-8
This is what I found when I googled your issue, but you should see a doc.

>>42049876
1. See a doctor

2
>Four year old shoes

You should be replacing your running shoes every year at minimum (maybe even 6months), assuming you run consistently. I know you just restarted, but after a week you didn't think to even try new shoes?

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>>42031227
Bought Nikes and other brands before but these are the best shoes by far. Just the right amount of cushion and rolls great off the ground.

Need a new shoe though since they don't make these anymore. Tried Nike again but they are too stiff and not as flexible.

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first run using an app, first time running without walking at all/running hills, how am i doing bros. fell a bit short of 5k :/

>>42052133
You're doing pretty good bro! You're definitely on the right track. Also, you should definitely join the strava group. Lots of lads at all different levels

How long will it take to go from 30 min to 21 min 5k?

>>42047662
I bought that one about a month ago. So far so good. I upgraded from a fitbit charge 2. Its WAY better than the fitbit. GPS is 1000x more accurate.

I sometimes have problems with the activities not syncing to the app, but you can plug it in to your computer and download the activity file and upload it to the app so it doesn't bother me too much.

Battery lasts little less than a week for me, I wear it all the time. I run 4-5 days a week (30 mins to 1 hour) and train 2 days (1 hour). I use the activity tracking for both. I juice it up I when I shower, it gets about 20% in 15 mins plugged in.

Apps are just ok, don't buy it for the "smartwatch" part. Bluetooth disconnects from my phone when I walk anymore than 5 ft from it and it takes a a while for it to reconnect. Notifications happen sometimes, sometimes they don't.

Overall I like it, it s a good activity tracker, GPS is good and HR is pretty accurate. If you are looking to get a fitness watch Garmin is one of the best and the Forerunner 235 is the best running one for the *refub* price point and aesthetics. The only other one in the same price point as the refub that is worth anything is Polar and they are ugly.

>>42047662
got a garmin 235 a week ago. It's pretty good so far, just know you can turn off the move alerts. ran 15 miles in the morning and it was vibrating at me telling me to move after a couple hours of work. go to the step counting screen and hold the up arrow for 3-5 seconds.

>>42050745
>some_dude.jpg
hmmmm

>>42050152
try doing a really slower jog for longer. When I'm trying to do milage, I just don't think about pace as long as I'm running

>>42049315
>>42049901
It's not a real high, but everything feels amazing after a good 5-8 mile tempo run, pushing the pace enough so that it's not comfortable, but I'm still able to sustain it for the distance

>>42048279
you can still brag here. tell us your PRs

>>42047036
go early or find a good trail. Where I am, there are some pretty good, quiet places to run, you just have to look on google maps for a while

>>42031887
I'm pretty happy with my garmin 235, which is ~$100 cheaper iirc, and still does cadence and stuff. the main reason I saw to go for the 735xt was the longer battery life, but unless you're doing ultras or something, you can generally just charge it while you're in the shower or something.

>>42031363
I've heard that milage is basically the only thing that's counted for burning calories, so going slower would be better if you're going for a longer distance. just off the top of my head though, so you probably want to verify that.

>>42052647
thanks brah. what's the strava group

>>42050304
Solomon also makes great shoes, great anything really, I just forgot to mention them

>>42052657
long

30 is like an average time for a recreational runner
21 is quite respectable for a non-pro

>>42050304
>>42050025
fyi this guy has reviewed a ton of running shoes, including lots of trail
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheGingerRunner

>>42054930
>>42055032

Thanks anon.

>>42054033
good to know, they have both at a local running shop, i might pick up the 235 this weekend.

>>42052017
Faas 500? My old Faas were narrow in the toebox, what are the newer models like!?

>>42052657
I went from 29min 5k to sub 19 in 13 months, religiously having one track speed session and one hill sprints session a week and one long run of 7 to 10 miles at easy pace

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>>42026819
mfw i'm happy if I can cycle 20km without pain in my knee. Running is completely out of the question

I'm training for the NYC marathon.

Can I still lift while doing so?

How do I keep from losing gains?

How do I treat my patellar tendinitis that I developed from playing squash and now affects my running?

What's it like the month before a marathon? No drinking? What about if I'm also working 12h/day? Any recommended reading on this last part specifically?

>>42054069
>https://www.strava.com/clubs/fitizens
Literally first reply on the thread

I have trouble with my legs flinging outward and to the side on my back stride. Is there any way to correct this?

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>>42031227
I wear the on cloudflow
>swiss, for ww2 neutrality

>>42032222
Not necessarily. Prescribing one brand as
>>"the best hands down"
Could cause a lot of injuries, as every runner is so different that they all need different shoes, usually from different brands

>>42049876
>four year old shoes
>my sides

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>>42050025
Topo Terraventure

>>42056812
Had a pair, quick as fuck, but kept getting stones between the "clouds". Had to sell them

>>42052657
dont know man but i used to run 2030 in highschool, havent ran in a few years and still got 26-27. not great but its a start.

do you guys aim for distance or time usually? my coach way back always said push yourself for 25-45 minutes and the miles will come. just wondering if that approach works out better or choose a distance and shoot for x time

>>42052657
Are you fat? Btw, I would say that it's pretty easy to go from 30 to 24-25, but getting to 21 from there is hard.

What's this like for a first run? Do have hope being marathon running at point soon? Also, can you guys give me any tips?

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>>42057494
Forgot pic, sorry I'm a mobile poster I just got back

>>42057508
First run? I'd say its too long. Unless you're feeling really well, i'd recommend toning down the distance for now and build up more gradually.
That said, definitely good start if you're aiming for a marathon at some point.

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>>42057664
>definitely good start
Thanks. I wasn't really planning on going so far, but the McDonald's by my house was supposed to open at 5 and I wanted a Caramel Frape so I decided to run until they open. By the time I get to the McDonald's it's 5:03 and they're not open so I had to drink two 8.4 ounce Redbulls and a Starbucks vanilla bottled mocha from a gas station instead.

I feel like dying even though I got back almost an hour ago. Idk if that's from the caffeine, the sugar (34 grams over my sugar limit, according to MyFitnessPal) or if it's from the actual running.
I stopped a few times while I was running too, cause I felt like I was gonna throw up, but I didn't.

Is there any sage advice /run/ can give me to help boost me to athlete mode?