Use it or lose it

>>42004776
nofap is shit indeed

noporn actually helps tho

It's a flatline. You played yourself, bro. God tier test levels will come, but they're not always predictable.

>>42004812

The study showed the spike was on the 8th and would have went back to baseline by 3 weeks. Do you have a graph for your broscience?

Anyway that study and my experience tell that "use it or lose it" is true. Ideal is once every 10 days.

I am the horniest when i am getting regular sex. Like rn god damn i cannot wait to blow a load on my gfs face.

Enjoy being limp dick for real women lol. I stopped regularly masturbating in January and it's been the best thing I've ever done. If I do masturbate I rub one out without porn. Porn ruins your brain

>>42004917
I get hard for fwb no issues. it was only with nofap that I couldn't. And who said anything about
using porn? at most I use girls ass shaking videos or still images

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>>42004776
>"Stopping This One Weird Bodily Function Makes Your Life a Million Times Better"
>OP actually falls for it

>>42004896
>The study showed the spike was on the 8th
yeah because your test receptors start to absorb your elevated level of t.This is why people advise 30 days nofap ypu fuckhead

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8 inch cock 3 inch wide still a virgin on no fap I couldn't get hard no more, with fapping my girth increased and my penis looks more aesthetic I'm scared to have sex cause girls will think i'm small.... they expect mandingo bbc cause i'm black :(.

I watch porn and fap no issues whatsoever.
Enjoy your e-stats to validate your dumb memefalling

>>42005058

Damn that's a new level of broscience. Test levels returned to baseline, how hard is it to understand fuckhead?

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>just b urself and only fap on every 8th day bro

Congratulations, you've realized that nofap is a meme. There is no science to back it up

>>42005120
underrated

>>42004776
Noporn is best thing I've done this week (lel). Someone got through to me with the cuck argument. Because when you're watching porn, you're literally holding your dick and watching another man fuck the woman you're thinking off.
I fap once every two or three days with noporn. Feels very healthy so fat. Getting good boners, decent loads and I don't have to feel like a cuck.

>>42005229
>implying I don't record girls stripping for me on omegle and jerk off to that
jebaited

>>42004776
From the very first mention of it. You must be retarded to ever take that bs seriously

>>42005259
I don't understand any of this

>>42005229
Normal people just self insert as the guy you literal cuck

>sex drive/reproductional drive is literally our strongest urge except survival
>countless psychological effects of sex or the lack thereof accepted by sciebtific consensus
>whether or not you please yourself every chance you get makes no difference
The absolute state of fappers

>>42005348
ur the cuck cuck

>>42005229
Noporn is the way to go. Just fap to your imagination.
>You'll last longer
>You don't develop strange fetishes by watching too much porn
>You'll be better in bed because you learn to multitask
>You'll last longer in bed, because you'll have to death grip your dick more to actuall finish. This makes you dick less sensitive and will make you last longer

>>42005383
virgin

Exactly this. Don't use your dick it will forget how to work. Using it means sticking it in a person not bashing off at every moment.

>first week of no homo

>>42005348
>Normal people just self insert as the guy you literal cuck
L I T E R A L C U C K

>>42004776
>When did you realize nofap was a meme?
Immediately. It's an obvious troll-meme, intended to make you miserable for their amusement. Common sense rules. Masturbation (IN MODERATION!) is normal, natural, and healthy. Stop falling for the troll-memes, gentlemen.

>>42005563
>you don't think about getting cucked while masturbating? KEK
You're either a cuck or a cuck and from /pol/, either way there is no way you can spin this. I watch porn of girls I find hot. Sometimes solo sometimes hardcore. Whether or not a dyel beta virgin who's still looking for a magic shortcut approves or not really doesn't concern me. Or anybody else.

Nofap isn't for testmaxxing it's a part of dopaminemaxxing buddy boyo

>>42005642
If you want more dopamine (and it's derivatives) then just supplement with tyrosine daily.

>>42004776
>implying you actually did nofap
You are only kidding yourself tard boy.

>>42004776
I did nofap for 125 days and broke it this morning, ask me anything

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I only fap once every 7 days and It's worked just fine for me, even more so since I shoot a nice thick load and it makes my brain tingly when I fap and look at some nice big tits. Been doing this for about 3 months now

I think nofap is a meme, but I do think restricting the amount to once a week works
give it a try bros

>>42005721
How was shoving things up your butt to stimulate your prostate? Is the adidas XXL squat-plug worth it for the extra hip drive?

>>42005229
>when you're watching porn, you're literally holding your dick and watching another man

So it's not porn if no men are involved?

>>42005229

This.. Is a good point. Wtf have I been doing. I'm a cuck! I guess either watch your own shit or jerk to your memories.

OP = jew

ignore this thread

In the meanwhile, every single normie with a gf and a good sexlife, watches porn and jerks off whenever the fuck he feels like it.

And here we are, a bunch of virgin autists talking about how no-fap or no-porn is suddenly a magic recipe for gains, girlfriends and happiness.

Fuck off with this dumb shit already. As long as youre not a neet 30 year old living in your parents basement jacking off to porn 6 hours a day, it doesnt fucking matter

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>>42005758
>jerk to your memories.

Literally a cuck for your past self lmao

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>>42005694
>>42005694
Cope, you need receptormaxxing, both dopamine and serotonin, why do you think jew antidepressants don't work? It's because you fry your receptors with porno, internet, tv, vidya, sugar etc. etc.

Note that this shit also to a large extent influences and controls endocrine, metabolic, osteoclastic and osteoblastic function. In 2017 it's either dopaminemaxxing or rotting buddy boyo

i've heard people with ED have to becareful because the dick can lose size if its unused

>>42005733
literally this

y'all just beat your hogs too often jesus christ

>>42005796

Dopamine and dopamine agonists block serotonin dumbass. Antidepressants dont work because serotonin feels like shit.

>>42005765
>looks up to normies as an ideal

Wut, I dont want to be no average joe.

Noporn is bs. You can learn a lot about how to make sex and please your girl just watching porn. Just don't became an addicted in porn or fap. Self control is an art

>>42005765
>As long as youre not a neet 30 year old living in your parents basement jacking off to porn 6 hours a day, it doesnt fucking matter
W-W-W.. I mean... L- ...

>>42005752
It's even worse. By watching lesbian porn you're conditioning yourself to associate arousal with feminine sexuality, making you want to become a trap.

>>42005913
>learn to please girls
>from porn
I'm not a noporn larper but come on

>>42005768
What if I jerk off to my imagination?

I have sex like 2 times a day and I still masturbate between the battles. I NEVER have any problem with not getting hard or premature ejaculation or anything like that.

t. highest test

>>42005913
Have you ever actually had sex?

>>42005765
You are missing the point, retard.
Nobody (besides a few trolls) is seriously arguing that nofap/noporn/nochan/nowhatever is magically going to turn you into a chad or even a normie.
In the same way that nofap isn't going to turn a normie into a chad or chad into an uber-chad.

But for sad autistic shut-in virgins, it's just one factor of many that's keeping them in the hole.
I guess if you're so fucked that you don't leave the house and have no friends and watch snuff videos while inserting dragon dildos, it's not going to save you either.
But I'm pretty sure most people considering nofap are neither of the above. They're kinda shy, have few friends, no romantic life and probably struggle with internet/vidya/porn addiction. Nofap can force them to find other things to do, can help motivate them to actually go out instead of stay home and play vidya and fap on a friday night.

>>42005913
>You can learn a lot about how to make sex and please your girl just watching porn.
I bet you think girls cum from penetration lmao

>>42005752
hi its me. Idk about lesbian porn, but solo's are OK in my book

>>42005733
THIS IS THE TRUTH. even if you cant make it 7 days, 3 days will see improvements in libido

>>42006048
Hey it's me again. Plain to see again.

What is the general opinion on fapping mostly to non-porn pics? I'm trying to slow down on the porn as I have a bit of an issue with it. I sometimes like to fap to high res celebrity pics and play jerkoff encouragement audio files over it.

>>42006012
>cannot to touch peen
>life will ruined
being this autistic

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>>42006043
this lmao cause they totally dont right guys? my pencil dick isnt the reason right bros?

>>42005405
>t. porn addict with fucked fetishes
Sicko

>>42006077
wat

>>42006012
Literally me.

>>42004776
nofap is the memest of memes

>>42006077
Are you for real?

>>42006012
>You are missing the point, retard.
>Nobody (besides a few trolls) is seriously arguing that nolift is magically going to turn you into a chad or even a normie.
>In the same way that nofap isn't going to turn a normie into a chad or chad into an uber-chad.
>But for sad autistic shut-in virgins, it's just one factor of many that's keeping them in the hole.
>I guess if you're so fucked that you don't leave the gym and have no friends and watch Zyzz videos while injecting creatine, it's not going to save you either.
>But I'm pretty sure most people considering nogym are neither of the above. They're kinda shy, have few friends, no romantic life and probably struggle with 4chan/vidya/gym addiction. Nogym can force them to find other things to do, can help motivate them to actually go out instead of stay home and play vidya and work out on a friday night.
HOL UP. YOU BE SAYING PEOPLE WHO DON'T FAP HAVE THE TIME SAVED, SAVED FOR OTHER THINGS?
Jesus fucking Christ kill yourself you pretentious tryhard redditor. The argument is NOT about whether or not fapping wastes time it's about health benefits (mainly test rise) and subsequent psychological changes.
Don't fucking jump in with your useless shit trying to get some upvotes.
Fuck I hate redditors.

>>42006168
So you get to decide what the argument is about?lmao, shut the fuck up you mememaster.

>>42006199
Nobody except you argued that so yeah. Meanwhile everybody argued about health benefits. Poor try even for a redditor.
Also
>trying to save face with a buzzanswer when you have nothing
reddit confirmed

>>42006168
You are missing the point of the argument you fucking faggot.
The post I replied to tried to discredit nofap by pointing to normies/chads who fap and watch porn and still get laid. It is a single post with no connection to surrounding arguments. So shut the fuck up about what "the argument" is about.
I tried to explain why that doesn't matter because nofap isn't a magic pill.
But maybe you're too retarded to understand that.
You're boiling everything I said down to "it wastes time". Which is a factor, but by far not the only or even main one. Not every porn addict faps for hours every day.
Whether or not nofap actually raises test to any significant degree is a totally different debate. Same for "health benefits".

What exactly happens when you do nofap is totally obscure because there haven't been any large scale studies done and anonymous posts on the internet between "I got offered a threesome with two 9s after a month of nofap" and "I have ED after nofap for 2 months" are not very useful.

What exactly the problem is probably varies from person to person, the bottom line is that (excessive) masturbation as a common thing in this demographic is not a bad place to start self-improvement.

>>42006085
Oh shut up
Everyone knows that vaginal orgasm depends way more on the girl than on the size, and most girls can't orgasm without clitoral stimulation

But sure, your 25 inch dick probably makes every woman cum in seconds, right?

>>42006115
>>42006199
>>42006347
I will use your urethra as my fleshlight and make you cum my cum to make you feel like a man

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>>42005120

>>42006395
show me where he touched you anon

>>42006321
>E-e-e-verybudy is arguing health benefits only you are not talking about that haha
Damn you are a special kind of mememaster, all that /pol/ time sure didn't help you huh.

But whatever dumb dumb, please keep calling me your memes so I can asses how much of your ass I'm burning lmao

>>42006347
Don't bother he is braindead, let him waste away his youth to baboon dancing.

>>42005765
In the meanwhile, every single normie with a gf and a good life, drinks alcohol whenever the fuck he feels like it.

And here we are, a bunch of virgin autists talking about how practicing abstinence is suddenly a magic recipe for gains, girlfriends and happiness.

Fuck off with this dumb shit already. As long as you don't have your liver hanging out by your side, it doesnt fucking matter

Fuck you you normalfag, fuck you.

>>42006426
>>42006606
faggots wanna brag about not touching their willy because they can't stand it has no real benefit

If you're used to fap many times a day, it's not a bad idea to tone it down.
Completely stopping and never fapping again it's a meme though.

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>>42006406
it's been a few weeks I haven't laughed out this viciously and geniunely

thanks anon

>>42004776
you just are addicted to pron brah. You need to stop this shit

Day 12 here, stopped getting morning wood.

>>42004776
>Gives up 3 weeks in
It's called a flat line doofus

>blow a load every 4 days
Reporting

>>42005721

How did you feel on the streak
Would you do it again

>>42005064
>Thinks women care as long as you're not sporting a micro-cock

Bro, they're going to be more disappointed you only last a minute for your first time, not the size.

>>42004776
>>42006934
Rough timeline of over 4 months of nofap
>day 1-7: Struggle to stay away from my dick
>day 8: wet dream
>day 8 to ~30-40: Literally zero libido, zero urge to fap. - flatline
>day ~50: wet dream
>day 50-90: weekly up and down cycle. high energy and libido on the weekend, tired and depleted at the beginning of the week. couple of wet dreams.
>day 90-110: nothing special. Nothing positive nor negative, really.
>day 110+: feeling slightly shitty. low libido, lowish motivation.
>day 124: decided to break nofap

I really doubt that anything would have improved had I continued on.
I wouldn't recommend doing more than a 30 or 90 day detox, depending on how fucked up your habits are. Maybe if you have a gf or regularly fuck you can keep it up indefinitely because you have some way of release, but if you're a sad lonely virgin, you should probably fap every once in a while.

>>42006729
i have a fwb i dont even use porn. just random images

>>42005913
lol

>>42005941
>>42006011
how else am i supposed to learn how to have sex when im a virgin

i mean i dont get it from real porn, but like amateur stuff, watch what positions they use, what moves they do, etc

>>42004776
Nofap is just modern catholicism. I stopped watching porn when I found out how highly being in a porno correlates with being abused as a child, though.

Was sexting a girl earlier and I didn't touch my dingo but some pre-cum leaked out, did I relapse?

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>>42004776
OP I had the same experience as you, not 3 weeks but 16 days - I didn't do it on purpose I was just busy and crashing on peoples couches.

realized im currently "nofapping" by day 8 or so - posted pretty much same thread as you and faggots like
>>42004896

say "muh baseline"

I don't even know what these benefits are but I've only seen downsides to it. These incels probably doing this as a last resort instead of learning how to actually talk to women or be more socially likelable -> then they fap and lose all their confidence or whatever.

It's like a fatass on a meme diet - once you stop you're back to being a fatass/loser soon

>>42006074
How do you feel about it?

Do you guys really need to fap?
I have a couple of FWB and doesn't even consider fapping.
Worst case scenario, I'll have to wait a couple hourse or until the next morning to have sex.

>>42010163
sick 4chan brag dude. you're cool

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It's a "men want other men to masturbate several times a day" episode

how do i stop using porn
i literally gave a naked oil massage to a girl the other day, made her cum, and yet when it came to sex i just didn't feel into it at all and didnt cum once
i think porn is to blame but goddamn every time i try to fap without it i feel nothing, i'm just lying there tugging on my dick with no real feeling.

>>42004776
> 3 weeks of nofap
> dick rarely gets hard
Low test.

>>42010229
>i literally gave a naked oil massage to a girl the other day, made her cum, and yet when it came to sex i just didn't feel into it at all and didnt cum once

man sounds like you got a real problem poor guy

>>42004896
The spike was on the 7th and went back down the same day.

>>42005064
Your girth is small, but length. Not at all. Stop watching porn. You're pretty big

>>42004989
>at most I use girls ass shaking videos or still images
You gotta get on that imagination only fap bro. It's a game changer.

>>42004776
>My dick doesnt work anyway
>been using test for a while now
>MY ED

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>>42005758
>jerk to your memories.

Have you tried doing it 5-6 times a day twice in a row and then not for 2 days?

It'll turn you into a god damn sexual tyrannosaurus.

>>42005796
>receptormaxxing
Can we get the official receptormaxxing program?
>meditation
>no porn
>classical and jazz instead of loud, busy music
>limited internet consumption
>reading
>only drinking water
>limited caffeine usage
>low sugar intake

>>42008296
Nah, you're good bro.

>>42007791
Fuck a girl and be awkward and progress from there.

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>>42004776
When I realized it was made up by religious zealots and pseudoscientists
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html?zx=5c392185e96536fa
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>http://www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>http://urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>http://www.frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>http://m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>http://answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>https://www.healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation

>>42010350
no music
no tv
no internet
cold showers
no porn/no fap
no drugs
no alcohol
gym/train/long walk every day

Do this 1-4 weeks and you might actually feel like a human again Tbh Tbh

>>42004776

buy some zinc and you'll fix that limp dick problem

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Biologically, what makes a good ole fap and sex different?

Genuinely curious here

>>42010917
merit

>>42010917
Social connection and the feeling of worth and achievement. Success. Emotion. These things connect with every part of your being.

>>42010917
the ejaculate from a fap is different than from sex

>>42005155
Except you are sad and pathetic because its "fap" and not "sex"

loser. just go gay like the rest of your lot and stay away from my women.

>>42005758
AMEN! bruh

You young shits are getting the benefit of this sage fucking advice now before you waste 10 years of your life.

32 year old, been on no porn/7fap for about 7 months.

What has happened....

>Before: Super smart, 4.0 college, 3.9 masters, work at home, sad all the time, just do my job, porn, jerk, n vidya. rinse n repeat

>enter noporn/7fap
>Went after and GOT new job that paid $40,000 more than last one
>Schmooze with mega landowners, businessmen, politicians, and they actually listen to me
>find a girl that is OK with sex on the regular
>life is good

yeah, I'm gonna stick to this new routine brehs, we all gonna make it

>>42005963

That's escapism, it's not healthy.

>>42007106
>but if you're a sad lonely virgin, you should probably fap every once in a while

What if I don't really wanna?
>due to dick-health problems

>>42005932
>>42006048
>lesbians

I was talking about solo pics of women you pervert numbnuts

what about no poo

Ya wtf.

Back in the day I did 50 days no fap and got my first gf.

Did it for a month recently and finally broke it. The next day I was way hornier, my cock was able to get way harder and felt less perverted.

It's worked for me but maybe it is a meme.

To be honest if masturbation makes you feel too awkward about yourself and you start obsessing about not touching your peepee maybe it's better to have it surgically removed because you can't handle being a man

>tfw can't stop watching porn

>>42004896
What study

I stopped fapping and my cock gets hard and leaks precum from just talking to girls.

>>42008568
Pretty good... that's why I do it.

>>42012068
tfw you get a boner and pre cum just by talking to a girl on tinder

weird feel

nofap is dumb as fuck. No porn is the true way.

>>42010807
(You)

>>42011631
Faping 7 times a day can be healthy... Too much chafing

On day 7 currently and I had the lewdest fucking dream today. Was doing the mating press with this chick and she had the comfiest pussy ever. This shit is hard yo after you have a lewd dream you can't think of anything but putting yo goddamn dick in a hole.

>>42013535
Don't stop now anon. You're almost the apex of human evolution with trillions of dollars who's charismatic, smart, funny and has superpowers. Keep going!

>>42013558
You jest too much anon, I don't have trillions of dollars or superpowers.

>>42004776
Retard.
Poor erection quality and diminished libido is a temporary side affect of recovery and resetting the wiring in your brain.
Stick it out and you will benefit.

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>>42004798
Tfw vids no longer get you hard and only people you know or see do

>>42004896
>use it or lose it

Actually look into biology instead of just spouting this meme, your dick isn't going to suddenly shrink because it hasn't been jerked off in a week or two.

>>42010917
>Biologically, what makes a good ole fap and sex different?
babies are quite a big one

>>42010917
Oxytocin is released when you get touched by a real human bean.

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Wait you guys don't even watch porn and masturbate while working out

>>42013999
No bro if you do nofap your dick will fall off and you'll turn gay, get with the times.

>>42014244
But I'm touching myself does that not count?

>>42014368
Understandable, have a nice day.

>>42007106
Did you have any fucked up fetishes before you started and if you did, did they go away after the 90 days?

>>42005932

What's wrong with that?

>>42013613
really?
for how long are you on noporn, anon?

>>42013601
I wasn't a porn addict before tho, I could get hard for my girl fine. I did nofap cuz I thought it would give a test boost and improve aggression. But it really didn't, it made me worse off.

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I'm on NOFAP and NOPORN, 1.5 weeks in. Notice i get random erections now, morning wood, and get hard when i think of my girlfriend for example.

>>42015537
This.

After noporn I get a chub just from making eye contact with random girls I pass on the street.

>>42006043
>I bet you think girls cum from penetration
Dicklet detected

I'm doing nofap because I can't get hard to even fucked up porn anymore. What I've noticed 2 weeks in is that I'm getting random boners again and I keep imagining fucking 2D traps.

What's going on lads

>>42016819
It'll take a long time for you to go back to "normal" stuff but you are on the right path brother, keep fighting.Do you have wet dreams though?

>>42016951
Oh yeah, I started having some. I want to fuck a qt 2d trap for some reason now. I think my test is rising.

>do nofap
>not watching porn even more difficult
>after two weeks get the urge to put stuff up my ass

wat do

>>42017942
Stuff it.

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"I don’t ejaculate for six weeks before the fight. No sex, no masturbation, no nothing. It releases too much tension. It releases a lot of minerals and nutrients that your body needs, and it releases them cheaply. Releasing weakens the knees and your legs. Find a lion that hasn’t had some food for a while, and you’ve got a dangerous cat. So there won’t bet a drip from me. Even in my sleep — if there are girls all over me in my dream, I say to them, ‘I’ve got a fight next week, I can’t do anything. I can’t do it.’ That’s control. I’ve been doing that since I was fifteen and its part and parcel of my preparation now. That’s why I am who I am today — it’s down to all those little sacrifices. Find me another boxer who makes that sacrifice, and you’ll find another champion."
-Boxer David Haye from pic related video.

I'll always remember this quote and this motivation is what's keeping me on the fap free way. I have finally rid myself from the 5 second ograsm pleasure that you guys are all still cucked by.

Bless up and stay away from fapping and porn.

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>be 24, 192cm tall, around 80 kgs
>have 6.x" dick
>meet cute & very thicc (athletic) girl, around 188cm tall d-cups, big ass
>lose virginity
>made girl cum
>did not cum myself

>every myth every busted

>>42014812
Somewhat of a foot fetish. Not gone.
Fetish in the sense of, I find nice feet attractive, as a part of the female body. I don't focus on feet and don't like the dirty/smelly/femdom shit you often see with foot fetish.
Other than that... nothing really.

>>42018063
This guy is a professional, world class fighter.

People on /fit/ are college kids who low bar squat 3x a week.

Not masturbating is the most autistic thing ever.

>>42007106

til, nofap cause ED

>>42010272
When you use imagination as material, how does it work? Do you busy visualize someone you've seen or know? Do you picture them just as is or doing something lewd? When I've tried using imagination it just devolved into me inserting a person I know into the role of a video I've seen, and at that point you're just doing it to the video right?

>>42010917

you might end to pay child support

>>42018308
not really. I could and can still get hard if I want to, the only thing is that I'm not getting "random" erections like morning wood.

>>42018323
not the same anon but basically you just imagine a girl you like in a realistic situation between you two. It's basically roleplaying, so it sounds pretty gay but it is much more effective for me than porn used to be. I've been on Noporn for ~2 weeks but I was never really a heavy porn user, just every once in a while.

>>42004798
this

>>42018394
I'll have to give it a try, the way I did it felt like watching material

>>42018293
What kinda shitty excuse is that?

The point is you need the stuff that's inside your semen. Doesn't matter what job you do.