Giving up meat

>>41962694
Yes I have, just be sure to monitor what you eat much more now. Make sure to do your best at sculpting a good healthy diet.

>>41962694
idiot lmao

>>41962694
Me and about ten friends have started cooking vegetarian/vegan food.
The biggest reason for most of us is probably that it contains less calories and leads to a healthier lifestyle.

And somewhere in the back of my head at least, I know it's good for our planet and for the animals.

My favorite protein rich food right now is chick-peas.

>>41962852
vegan? vegetarian?
what supps do you take? Ive heard d3, and omegas are important

>>41962694
Good luck anon. I couldn't do it. Things got too boring and I was losing weight despite eating what I thought was more but was actually less in terms of calories.

>>41962874
Increasing crop production will lead to further use of land and possibly more deforestation which wouldn't be good for wild life. On top of that, most of the crops go to waste due to allelopathy. What we should be doing is increasing insect consumption since they provide alternative sources to protein and are large in quantity everywhere in the world. But insects are considered animals so I don't know if this is acceptable to vegans.

>>41962915
Most of us mix meat and veg. food and when I buy meat I always buy locally raised/slaughtered.

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>>41962694
It's important that you tell as many as possible and if no1 cares just switch to vegan thats where the free (you)'s are.

>>41962965
I would buy locally raised/slaughtered meat but I don't know any place that sells this. I only have my local super market meats.

>>41962990
My local supermarket have a lot of local meat and greens.
And some milk products too.

>>41962969
kek

kys op

>>41962874
No really so worried about the excess calories. It has to do with lowering my saturated fat and cholesterol intake. I used to be 360 pounds, and have since dropped 130 pounds. But even now, since i have such a history of family illness. I want to see if i can manage to take that next step.
>>41962884
i still supplement with whey iso and could stand to lose a few pounds as is, so short term im not too worried about that.
>>41962969
Im not even trying to start some argumentative thread. I dont really give too many fucks about the animals were killing. Its strictly a health thing at this point.

>>41962694
plant-based is most based, of course i did eat a BLT with 8 slices of sugared bacon for lunch today

I eat fish and I don't have cancer

>>41962878
B12 is the only one you need as a vegan. Everyone should be taking a D supp, or be getting more sunlight. Omega supplements aren't needed, nuts and seeds cover your bases.

>>giving up meat
>>giving up gains

>>41962694
Wake me when you give up eating dairy and eggs regularly. Giving up meat is easy. Dairy is what keeps heads in the sand.

>>41962694
And what alternative to meat do you propose?
What do I eat with my potatoes, rice, pasta etc that isn't fucking grass?

>>41963296
I already stopped drinking milk and eating eggs. Youre right though. Cheese and greek yogurt are the hard ones.

>>41963418

Beans and lentils, other whole grains

>>41963418
Beans, tofu, tempeh, seitan, lentils, chickpeas

Just season your shit up senpai

>>41963437
I would be vegan if I didn't eat pizza every couple of weeks.

>>41962694
Does this diet keep you from breaking out?

>>41963449
I can't even pronounce half of that shit

>>41963464
Yes and no. Yes you will break out less. You will still break out in places. Unless I am doing things wrong.

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It's not feasible if you're wanting to be strong and full natty.

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>>41963466
Read this study (if you can), might explain why

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17175567
>tldr meatcucks are less intelligent

>>41963496
Im still supplementing with vegan protein. It is definitely feasible, especially when eating other products like tofu, tempeh, and seitan

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>>41962694
Supposed to be easy to make taco meat out of TVP (Textured Vegetable Protein). Stuff is really cheap and utilitarian. It's soy based.

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Just fucking stop

Been debating giving up chicken given the retarded Chinese processing bullshit going on.

Red meat I very rarely have. I tend to get dietary distress unless it's really high quality meat, and so I keep it as a treat.

Fish I've given up on. We're fucking up the oceans too much. Last thing my autistic ass needs is more mercury exposure.

If you're eating whole food plant based make sure you eat a fuck ton! I can't speak for everyone but I've been on this diet for 2 years now and bulking was quite challenging at the start.
Once you get used to it though its far better than a meat and dairy diet in my opinion, more energy, sleep better, good gains with very little fat attatched.
To top it all off Ive only had one minor cold in the two years ive been eating this way and that only lasted a few days.
My favourite post gym meal is a fuck ton of rice, a can of red kidney beans sauteed in garlic, onions, mushrooms and lots of spinach.
Enjoy your journey m8 ,i believe its really worth the switch. Dont listen to cucks when they tell you it's unhealthy, i truly have never felt better.

>>41963582

What I like to do is eat just my calorie-giving meals throughout the day, the beans and oats and all that stuff, and then at the end of the day eat as many vegetables as I can. That way the veggies aren't filling me up until after I've gotten the calories in.

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>>41963582
this

Plants aren't as dense, so you'll be eating a greater volume of food with equal caloric value.

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>>41963650
That feeling after filling up from vegetables.
Feels good man

>>41962694
Don't give up eggs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CFEBU0qnkM

>>41963731
Give up eggs
https://youtu.be/RtGf2FuzKo4

>>41963765
What a retarded video. What does it prove just because something isn't healthy doesn't mean it's unhealthy.

>>41963826

It is unhealthy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuRnT_ojwQU

>>41963731

>Lutein and zeaxanthin study he references clearly says feeding egg yolk to the study participants raised their LDL by 8-11%
>doesn't mention this

>>41963217
>sugared bacon
Unironically kill yourself

>>41963918
>Eating egg yolks

Weekly hard limits of full eggs. After that, whites only.

>>41963945

All it took in that study was 1.3 egg yolks. What's your weekly limit?

>>41963931
don't be a fag, i'm literally biking to gains town in 10 minutes

you people go around telling everyone to eat bullshit like chicken breast and whey protein powder, then get triggered when I talk about eating a fucking BLT?

you must be fat

>>41962915
>Increasing crop production will lead to further use of land and possibly more deforestation
Animals consume roughly 2/3 of the crops produced in the US, idiot. If people cut down on meat, the amount of total farmland would go down.

>>41963961
I guess it's 1.3 egg yolks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5j1gA50QXE

Enjoy not having a functioning brain retard.

I want to keep whey powder as my only protein source and vegetarian food as carb/fat source because it's cheaper

>>41963982
>don't be a fag
>i'm literally biking to gains town in 10 minutes
>you people go around telling everyone to eat bullshit like chicken breast and whey protein powder, then get triggered when I talk about eating a fucking BLT?
>you must be fat
Wow, too many assumptions in one post
Sugared bacon tastes vile and is a disgrace to the pig that had to die. It is on par with snails, chilli chocolate, raw eggs, organ meat, banana-ketchup-steak tortilla and sugared herring on the disgusting scale

>>41963997

>take B12 supplement
>get the best of both worlds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57QwxhzItbQ

>>41964022
lol fatty

>>41964028
Then you aren't really a vegan, you idiot.

>>41964022

organ meat is fantastic in literally each and every way. you are an absolute cumlord.

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>>41964110
>he thinks b12 is only found in animals

b12 is produced by bacteria in fresh water and soil. The only reason it's in sufficient quantities in meat is because livestock are fed b12 supplements

>yfw you've been taking a b12 supplement this whole time

Pescetarianism / flexitarianism is the optimal diet anon

no dairy tho

idg being a vegan

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>>41963826
>can't legally market eggs as healthy, nutritional or safe to eat but still think they are good for you

good goyim

>>41962990

Where do you live, a drive round the country side and see signs everywhere for local farmers selling meat.

>>41964110
So much sodium in this post i went over my daily limit

>>41963449

>Beans, tofu, tempeh, seitan, lentils, chickpeas

Yeah that's what I want after a 10 hour shift on a building site, some beans and fucking lentils. Fuck that lamb shank steak or beef stew ill have some cheakpeas after a long day at work.

>>41964401
>10 hour shift on a building site
Well that's why veganism is for higher educated people ;)

Nah in all seriousness, you are probably habitually "addicted" to meat. If you change your eating habits you can easily stop eating meat, a good lentils curry tastes amazing and is really filling.

>>41964401
Beans are meaty and savory and hot. What's the issue? If you're such a little bitch then don't even make yourself a steak go order pizza you pathetic faggot.

>>41964440

Oh right I forgot building sites are not filled with engineers with proper degrees.

I keep meaning to start eating more non meat meals to see how I feel with it all had a vegetable stew this week which I need to work on it was very watery
How about the whole juicer issue I read the slow ones are much better than the standard. Not as a meal replacement but more of a snack during a work day

>>41964401
Im a carpenter m8 and youd be suprised how much better you will feel, you'll be running laps around cunts on site especially after lunch when they are all lethargic and bogged down from meat heavy meals.

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>>41964440
best source to learn more about vegetarian diet ?

>>41962694
plant based is best, I am eating 95% plant based, mainly to improve my bloodwork because I take steroids.
Bloods are perfect, always, gains are just like they were before, maybe better.
I can eat more food. So many pros.

Sometimes I say fuck it and eat a pizza, but no red meat, very little fish and white meat. loads of fruit, lentils, beans, soy products etc.
soy granules, 49% protein, 2 fat, 5 carbs.
so many great protein sources. Also cheap as fuck .

>>41964440
>a good lentils curry tastes amazing and is really filling

Get your poor ass out of my face, peasant.

>>41964679
yeah, what would you do with the chespest, and nutritionally almost perfect food.

>>41964508
>I keep meaning to start eating more non meat meals to see how I feel with it all
Great!
>had a vegetable stew this week which I need to work on it was very watery
Man, veggie stews are a very inefficient way to get calories in. They can be good for cutting though. If I were you I'd be getting bean burritos or falafel wraps or something
>How about the whole juicer issue I read the slow ones are much better than the standard. Not as a meal replacement but more of a snack during a work day
There is nothing inherently wrong with juicing, just keep in mind you aren't getting any of the fiber.

Here's a tip
>Juice carrots, spinach, celery, apple, oranges, whatever you like
>Keep the pulp and boil it except from the apples and oranges
>Drain pulp through sift
Voila veggie stock to make your stews/risottos even tastier

In all animal studies, the easiest way to increase lifespan is just to reduce calorie intake

particularly you want to stop eating foods that cause inflammation

>>41964286
>bacteria aren't animals

hm

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>>41963438
>>41963449
>>41963524
>>41963582
>>41962694
Monitor your diet, make sure it's balanced and let us know how it pans out for you in 5 weeks. Til then, OP.

>>41965177
They aren't eukaryotes, mang.
https://www.quora.com/Exactly-what-kind-of-bacteria-produces-Vitamin-B12-and-under-what-kind-of-natural-habitat-and-climatic-conditions-does-it-thrive-in

>>41963466
>i'm ignorant

Not an argument

>>41963982
>saying "literally biking to gains town"
>not being a fag
pick one and only one

>>41963555
Fish that are in the bottom of the food chain have a lot less mercury in them, I'd say 3 times a week wouldn't do anything to you.

>>41962694
I agree to a certain extent, especially when you track the body's digestion of red meat. When you look red meat like steak sits in the digestive tract for 5 to 14 days. It's obviously not great to eat in large quantities.

However I don't agree with giving up meat entirely. Just on the basis that your body has been fine tuned to digest red meat. I see no reason to give up said example because doing so will kill off certain bacteria in your body that was already naturally occurring.

Plus who knows when your life becomes like that kid from Hatchet and become trapped in Alaska and you need to kill a reindeer to eat and survive.

>>41965177
No brain, no CNS, no sense of self or ability to perceive subjective reality => ok to consume
>>41965507
>Just on the basis that your body has been fine tuned to digest red meat
Name one physiological adaptation humans have made specifically to digest meat
>when your life becomes like that kid from Hatchet and become trapped in Alaska and you need to kill a reindeer to eat and survive
Red herring, if he has to he'll eat meat, but in 99.9999999% of every day life in modern western societies meat is unnecessary

>>41965507
>body has been fine tuned to digest meat
Why does consuming meat develop atherosclerosis then?

Hey fren. I feel pretty compelled to give some advice about this. I've been vegan/semi-vegan for five years. I've had a lot of success but also A LOT of problems that have come from laziness and ignorance.

You need a B12 supplement. Supplements come in different shapes and sizes. You want 1000 micrograms of methylcobalamin. There are B12 supplements that are actually like 100 micrograms of cyanocobalamin, which is shit.

Another big one is iodine. Iodine also comes in different forms. You can get it from kelp and stuff, or from iodized salt, or from better supplements like nascent iodine. Very important.

>>41963931
Found the Jew or Muzzie.

>>41963259

Nuts contain ALA o3's which are shit tier compared to DHA and EPA from fish.

Source: vegetarian

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I'm doubling the amount of meat in my diet.

>>41965962
>>41963982
>Unironically defending SUGAR in any way, shape or form on top of MEAT
Please do not reproduce

>>41962915
>"raising less meat increases land needed to grow crops"
This is exactly the opposite of reality you fucking brainlet.

>>41966002
B-but muh grass grazing free range

Why you veggiefags suck dick:

Vegans are deficit in b12:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/784788
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16219987

High fiber diets reduce serum half life of vitamin D3:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6299329

Vegans have weaker bones due to lower calcium intake and vitamin D3 levels:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/486478
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700

Vegans have a worse memory compared to non vegans due to creatine deficiency in vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21118604
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14561278

Vegans have less gains compared to non vegans:

http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/6/1032.full

Vegans are deficient in omega threes:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16087975
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16188209
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323090
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323085

Vegans are deficit in carnitine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753065
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2756917
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1628441/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11043928
Vegans are deficient in taurine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3354491

Vegans are deficient in iodine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12748410
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21613354

Vegans are deficient in Coenzyme Q10:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873950

Vegans are deficient in iron due to the fact that iron from plant sources is less bioavailable than iron from meat sources:

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iron-HealthProfessional/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269606

Vegans are deficient in vitamin A:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19103647
http://m.jn.nutrition.org/content/137/11/2346.full


Vegans have a lower sperm count than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/

Vegans have lower testosterone than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127.abstract
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
http://m.jap.physiology.org/content/82/1/49

Veganism causes loss of libido and erectile dysfunction:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476
Children who are raised on strict vegan diets do not grow normally:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4067152
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8005079

Children develop rickets after prolonged periods of strict vegetarian diets:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1874810/pdf/canmedaj01383-0052.pdf

"There are some links between vegetarians and lower birthweight and earlier labour"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7788369

"Particular attention should be paid to adequate protein intake and sources of essential fatty acids, iron, zinc, calcium, and vitamins B12 and D. Supplementation may be required in cases of strict vegetarian diets with no intake of any animal products."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2912628/

These next five are case studies:

Cerebral atrophy in a vitamin B12-deficient infant of a vegetarian mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25076673

Severe megaloblastic anemia in child breast fed by a vegetarian mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8442642

Consequences of exclusive breast-feeding in vegan mother newborn - case report:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19748244

Nutritional vitamin B12 deficiency in a breast-fed infant of a vegan-diet mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3948463

"We report the case of a 7 month-old girl that presented with acute anemia, generalized muscular hypotonia and failure to thrive. Laboratory evaluation revealed cobalamin deficiency, due to a vegan diet of the mother."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18293883

Most recent studies using more sensitive techniques for detecting B12 deficiency have found that 68% of vegetarians and 83% of vegans are B12 deficient, compared to just 5% of omnivores. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12816782
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10966896
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10552882

On paper, calcium intake is similar in vegetarians and omnivores (probably because both eat dairy products), but is much lower in vegans, who are often deficient.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21139125
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/543s.full

Vegetarians and omnivores have similar levels of serum iron, but levels of ferritin—the long-term storage form of iron—are lower in vegetarians than in omnivores.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24871479

>>41966077
Hey look, the meat industry shill has come out to spam his links that he refuses to defend when anyone points out the obvious flaws in them.

This is significant, because ferritin depletion is the first stage of iron deficiency. Moreover, although vegetarians often have similar iron intakes to omnivores on paper, it is more common for vegetarians (and particularly vegans) to be iron deficient. For example, this study of 75 vegan women in Germany found that 40% of them were iron deficient, despite average iron intakes that were above the recommended daily allowance.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14988640
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

many plant foods that contain zinc also contain phytate, which inhibits zinc absorption. Vegetarian diets tend to reduce zinc absorption by about 35% compared with omniovorous diet.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

Thus, even when the diet meets or exceeds the RDA for zinc, deficiency may still occur. One study suggested that vegetarians may require up to 50% more zinc than omnivores for this reason.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

Why you need dietary cholesterol:

Saturated Fat Finally Vindicated in Long Buried Study
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/04/25/saturated-fat-finally-vindicated.aspx

Medium Chain Triglyceride Oil Consumption as Part of a Weight Loss Diet Does Not Lead to an Adverse Metabolic Profile When Compared to Olive Oil
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2874191/

Why you need cholesterol
https://www.nap.edu/read/11537/chapter/13
http://www.livestrong.com/article/435773-cholesterol-testosterone/

Finding your upper limit with cholesterol
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3292202/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16340654

Very wide and diverse amounts of similar research and current scientific consensus (look at the links at the bottom)
https://examine.com/nutrition/will-eating-eggs-increase-my-cholesterol

>>41962694
Went 100% pescatarian (the healthiest choice) 8 years ago and haven't looked back. I get some kind of fish or seafood in one of my meals everyday. I experienced no loss in stamina, though I didn't eat a ton of meat before that anyway.

Exercise lowers cholesterol
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2297284
http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/features/exercise-to-lower-cholesterol

Why "moral arguments" dont matter (there are literally thousands of them but I shall target the most popular ones)

It is not economically friendly, nor important for the world to forgo meat as we have a surplus of retarded niggers on this planet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubGzbj59_Xs

Giant read through summarizing dietary protein
http://www.catalystathletics.com/articles/downloads/proteinDebate.pdf

Another giant read through as to why you are a lazy fuck and should move more. Very high quality, provided by the european union.
http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/content/ehj/37/29/2315.full.pdf

misc, how to go through paywall articles:

http://sci-hub.io/

>>41966107
this guy is absolutely patrician

if you are going to give up meat entirely, at least keep in the dairy and eggs. b12 is generally your only supplement needed unless you are vegan

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>>41966090
Nah faggots like you are beyond saving. I just try to convince those on the fence its a bad idea. I also find the levels of ass blasted fury from vegans to be greatly amusing.

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>>41966061
>>41966077
>>41966086
butt hurt meat and dairy cuck clutching at straws, good goyim keep being a mindless consumer.

>>41963650

There's more than one satiety trigger, not just how full your stomach is.

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>>41963857
Gregor is such a

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>>41963857

Egg board!!! Those devils at it again! Nevermind all of gregor's studies being funded by pharmaceuticals, fucking egg board needs to stop manipulating everyone!

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>>41963437

>Cheese and greek yogurt are the hard ones.

caseine is addictive, just ask vegan kuck, skelly mode bernard.

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>>41963961

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>>41962694
>Im not giving up meat for the "humane" reasons, though thats an issue in and of itself
Reminder that there will be no reason to give up meat once lab grown meat becomes the norm.

>>41962694
>I lost my pops last year from kidney failure and diabetes, and am on the verge of losing my mother.

Think pretty long about where most of the calories in your parents diet come from. I guarantee you it's not meat, they are overloading on everything else.

Chinese food, pizza, and fast food are not "meat". That's starch, sugar, and vegetable oil with meat on top. Excess calories kill people, not one particular source of calories.

So then, how do you reduce calories? By increasing satiety. Meat and vegetables are very, very satisfying.

>>41966141
Bruh, I always reply to your posts when I see them and you never argue back.

Vegans live longer, omnivores are deficient in vitamin C, fiber, and many other things. So what? Does that mean you can't get vitamin C if you're an omnivore? There are genuine arguments against a vegan diet (which is why I eat fish) but your spam isn't one of them. You just have a limited understanding of nutrition and critical thinking. That's a fact.

>>41966445
K I L L yourself

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>>41966575

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>>41963765
Isn't this because the egg industry doesn't want people to go after them like with what happened to the tobacco industry?

>>41966575

A very impressive retort, please, do go on.

>>41963259
>B12 is the only one you need as a vegan
lul no

Please go see a dietitian or your GP, you need more than B12.

>>41966888
I won't because you never learn, you are a dedicated shitposter

>>41962694
Not going to make it

How do i get my mom off the vegan meme. I sent her like 15 of those articles that the anti vegan anon posted and she replied with "Your source is from nih.gov?!?!? The same people that are profiting off your meat consumption and decline in health as a result of it"


What do anons?

>>41967205
>. I sent her like 15 of those articles that the anti vegan anon posted
Have some more studies from the same site on why you should go vegan too
1/2

Cancer:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23169929
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22121108
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11743810
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4135519/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18789600
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22342103
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15955547
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19279082
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18980957
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3081176
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22867847
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21422422
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12588089
Diabetes:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diabetes/wireStory?id=2244647
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19386029/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24523914
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19351712
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18481955
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23509418
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16596361
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15983191
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23509418
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24149445
Heart Disease:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1534437/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17518696
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/108/22/2757.full.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7019459
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312295/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15172426

>>41967295
>>41967205
2/2
Osteoporosis:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25352269
American Dietetics Association Position on veganism:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864
Longest Living Population:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11434797
Low Carbohydrate Diets and mortality:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20820038
Plant foods have a complete Amino Acid profile:
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/105/25/e197.full
Benefits of a vegan diet:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4691673/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3967195/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4245565/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4583329/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4844163/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2677007/
Vegans & Vegetarians are more empathetic:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2877098/

>>41967205
What do you expect? Women are not capable of science and reasoning, for the same reason why veganism also still exists. Its for insane people.

>>41967295
You do realize that a lot of them have healthier than average participants? The other ones are kinda invalid, and the ones that are valid also dont collide with the deficiencies?

>>41967396
>women are not capable of science and reasoning

Stopped listening there. Back to r9k with you.

>>41967396
>I am blind and/or illiterate
Let me pick a random link from the last category
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3967195/
"Indeed, there exists a perception that vegetarian, and especially the vegan diet, are deficient for important nutrients including protein, calcium, iron and vitamin B-12 [3,4,5,6,7,8]. ...dietary pattern analysis is a complimentary method to examine the effect of an overall diet: food and nutrients are not eaten in isolation, and the “single food or nutrient” approach will not take into account the complex interactions between food and nutrients. The Healthy Eating Index ... uses an energy-adjusted approach, limiting the possible confounding effect of total energy intake [12]. ... The number of studies using dietary quality indices to compare restrictive diets with omnivorous diets is limited. The results of these studies are equivocal and none of them included a separate group of vegan subjects [7,10,14]. One study reports [15] the use of an Alternate Healthy Eating Index (AHEI) to examine the nutritional adequacy and quality of a low-fat vegan diet compared to a more conventional diabetes diet in type 2 diabetes patients. Patients switching to the low fat vegan diet significantly improved their AHEI score in every food category with a substantial increase for the fruit and vegetable components. Patients switching to the conventional diabetes diets did not improve their AHEI score [15]. The increase for the AHEI score was accompanied with a significant improvement of intake of several nutrients. Moreover, this study reported that the mean vitamin B-12 intake of the low fat vegan diet remained within the recommended range even without supplement use."

Should I go on or is it obvious that you are a shitposter?

>>41967654

The guy linkspamming is an idiot. He saves and resposts every anti-vegan thing that gets posted here no matter how low quality or unrelated it is, even after it's been thoroughly refuted.

I took the time the other day to respond to the arguments about iron and calcium and bioavailability etc when it was first posted, which nobody was able to challenge me on, and he still includes it in his copypasta as if it never happened >>41921344

Other links weren't read properly, like >>41934362

Or things like "Why You Need Cholesterol" making it sound like you need to eat cholesterol, then what he links to says clearly that you don't need to eat cholesterol, and that any incremental increase in the cholesterol you eat raises heart disease risk.

>>41967997
>The guy linkspamming is an idiot. He saves and resposts every anti-vegan thing that gets posted here no matter how low quality or unrelated it is, even after it's been thoroughly refuted.
I know, I've responded to him many times so far in old threads too. The only reason I keep doing it is precisely because >>41966141 he is actually dangerous for newfriends. They see his wall of resources, assume they are legit because of the post structure and sheer amount of citations and take his word for it without even opening them. Just because he is retarded doesn't mean he should be allowed to drag innocent newfriends seeking the path to self improvement down to his cave

Vegan or not, it's pretty autistic to try to act morally superior over your eating habits.

>>41966374

>Nevermind all of gregor's studies being funded by pharmaceuticals

All his studies on all of his videos are funded by drug companies? Even though almost every video of his is about how diet and lifestyle choices should be prioritized over drugs? That's the stupidest accusation you could make against him, especially considering that this particular video looked at research funded by the egg industry and explained how even that biased research, if you look at it skeptically, paints eggs in a bad light.

don't be fucking retarded. chicken are not animals. neither are fish. plants can keep growing when you chop them in half. chicken can still fucking run around when you chop their head off.

stick to eating birds and fish. just cut out the mammals.

I gave up on meat because I felt nothing but disgust at all the people I know posting stupid stories about animals bein hurt on fb, yet they keep eating meat and enjoying it. I couldn't be a retarded hypocrite like them. Now I'm objectively better than them and before me they should kneel

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>>41968105
>don't be fucking retarded.
> chicken are not animals. neither are fish.

>want to go vegetarian for cutting purposes
>most vegetables taste like paper to me
It's rough only liking carrots, tatoes, corn, and peas.

>>41968879
You know, all spices are vegan