/fraud/ - I didn't even really want to be shredded for

fuck off

redpill me on giving blood

redpill me on bloodwork

I have done neither and I've been on 300mg test mini blast for 8 weeks

All I know is that my blood pressure skyrocketed but since adding cardio it went back to normal

please wait for autosage before making new threads

>>41962569
Nobody cares about your opinion faggot, you're a nobody. Show pics you're worth talking to me or shut up forever for some damage control

>>41962614
If i didn't took the shit i took i was fucking bald af, because that's how quick it went.

I had more DHT in my body than people who have MPB you dumbshit motherfucker

1v1 me irl and i fight you to the death

>>41962660
Take supplements like ubi/coq10 and fucking eat clean food

>>41962681
Lower the androgenics m8, you look angry.

>>41962660
>8 weeks
>300mg
wow, it's literally nothing

Redpill me on low carb. Been keeping between 30-50g as a beginner but dont remember why I'm even doing this. Goal is to stop being fat

>>41962777
/qtddtot/ is that way

>sudden diarrea
>start sweating like fuck
>feel like fainting
what's happening

>>41962713
I am only on 100 mg mast

>>41962777
Stop being a pussy, you're fat. Low carb is god tier for fat loss.

low carb/high protein and fats + HITT

>>41962809
You should be dead already.

>>41962646
>too lazy to work out & take time
>use steroids
Fucking pathetic. kys immediately you godless heretics

>>41962814
>You should be dead already.
I feel better now but fuck that was spooky

How do I cut weight super fast? Like one week trying to cut 5 pounds

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>>41962817

>>41962865
I cut 16 in two weeks with dnp, "starving" and raw ground beef

>>41962713
this guy (you) is retarded

>ABSOLUTELY NO SOURCE TALK

The FDA isn't lurking in this thread anon

>>41962934
Yeah but what if I dont wanna die

>>41962951
I didn't. Forgot to mention I also ran 45 min a day

How safe is oral test? Should I taper on and off at 250 before 500 10week?
23
200
6'2"

>>41962951
I was super fat and lost 5 pounds for a few consecutive weeks living off only lean chicken and my own stored fat ass. Was he'll on earth,also eat celery

Can't find a good answer anywhere else

How far can low dose test cycles take you? Considering either a 12 week 500 cycle or just jumping on a 250 permacruise forever
I'm 25 and i like to do things like drink which lower your test and it's all downhill from here anyway
So honestly just thinking one 250 shot a week to keep me at the top level of natty for the next 40 years or so

>>41962646
whats better for cutting ( 4 week cycle with cruise test ) oral MENT/trestolone or epistane considering side effects to gain ratio

>>41963037
depends on your natty test levels

>>41963136

I'm sure they'll be higher cruising and since i'm not ever interested in coming off the questions are is there any particular damage this will do, and will my receptors adapt to the point it becomes futile?

I know about sterility and i'm already sterile (vasectomy) so that's all good

>>41962817
>taking steroids and not working out like a beast is gonna make you shredded
Broscience asf

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>2017
>using steroids
Well, enjoy your enlarged hearts and organs...except for that dick that be shrinking, lol. Really dont see why this is allowed to be spoken about on here, it's awful for beginner's to see this thread and think they need fake hormones.

>>41962998
>Oral Test

Fuck off or man the fuck up

>>41963169
It's cause it's informative you fag, and literally everyone recommends you get 1/2/3/4 better or even close before you cycle. I'm 19 and I'll browse until I do my first cycle at 22 or 23.

>>41963157
>Damage
Potentially damage to heart and vascular system. Do your cardio and have good genetics, you'll be fine. Watch what you eat and your lipids as well.

>Receptor adaptation
If this were true there'd be no low test faggots because their body would juet adapt to the low test.

>>41963169
>posts a dedicated juice head who has claimed natty

Pls tell me you don't believe o'hearn hasn't juiced up since childhood

>>41963173
Not because I want to faggot, I just have it readily available and cheap as shit.

Trenbolone-Acetate or Trenbolone-Enanthate?

>>41963135
wow

>>41963169
Is that Nick Cage?

question - are you guys totally open about your drug abuse? or do you tell girls and other dudes you're natty?

Anavar is supposed to be directly lipolytic isn't it?

Would 25-50mg/day with (300mg tren E/350mg tren a) a week be worth it? Diet is clean, eating juet barely under maintenance.

>>41963477
why would we

>>41963477
LTRs I'll tell after a few months vetting

Friends, actual friends, I told near immediately cause I was excited.

>Drug abuse
Kek. Uptight losers will use whatever colorful language they can think of to put others down.

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Thinking of taking this trenavar/epi stack.
Should I stack anything else with it?
What kind of PCT should I take after my cycle?
>Never frauded and the closest thing to a PH I've taken is D-Aspartic Acid.

>>41963520
I'm not trying to put anybody down dude, not my intention. What's the right way to put it? I'll use "steroid use" in the future.

>>41963520
>>41963542

Technically it is abuse but eh.

>>41963370
kys

>>41963542
Nah just the entire notion of 'drug abuse' is comical. Like the drug is some innocent victim. Or that there's an objectively wrong way to use a chemical, and YOU'RE DOING IT. YOU'RE AN ABUSER.

where do I find the wiki?

>>41963557
How about you shut up before i abuse your mom with this big tren dick again you faggot. Betas are all the same, go cry like ur a victim.

>>41963577
read the op, retard

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Damnit. I tried epi again and my acne started back up so I'm pretty sure this shit is causing it. Guess I'll have to switch over to adrol and hope it doesn't give me acne too.

>tfw getting past natty limit and feeling too big because people are starting to notice

>>41963580
Are you on your period?

Can I use 31g insulin needles to draw and inject test? I'm using 25g needles now and they hurt

>DNP Day 10

Past couple of days have been normal, just a little extra heat. Today is pretty chilly so I'm just comfy.

Weights starting to come off faster now.

Got punched last night walking a girl (friend) of mine to a cab. We were at a bar and I had just gotten off work so I wasn't drinking. She spotted her ex who flips out at her every time he sees her. So I walked her to a cab, put her in it and turned around and got sucker punched.

The guy had big rings on and split my lip, 8 stitches. I grabbed him by the collar and kicked the shit out of him. He only got one punch in but it was a good one.

So I'm here today with stitches in my mouth and lip, a prescription for antibiotics, and a decsion.
>do I continue taking DNP despite this
>do I stop taking it until I'm healed up

idk how DNP affects the healing process if at all, or how it may affect the antibiotics

S M H

>>41962660
>mini blast
So like a cruise?

>>41963699
You will heal better if you are not in a calorie deficit

>>41963742
>citation needed

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>>41962998
>oral test
literally why

>>41963169
shit tier bait, my dude. you gotta try harder.

>>41963758
how autistic are you?

>>41962951
>Not dying and becoming a 0% bf skeleton, thus achieving the ultimate cut
NEVER GONNA MAKE IT

>>41962949
Exactly what someone from the FDA would say.

>>41963037
Why would you hop on gear and still drink, that's kinda stupid tee bee aych

>>41963169
>Discussion about drugs that lead to performance enhancement among those who lift casually for fun
>"DURR DIDJU NO STEROIDS R BAD 4 U??? LOL U GAIZ R DUMB"

EVERY FUCKING THREAD

>>41963695
Why would you not buy separate drawing and injecting needles?

>>41963758
Are you retarded? If you have a infection i would stop dieting, if it's only the stiches do whatever it takes baby

>>41963796

My TRT doc gave me 30 25g and 31g needles for test and HCG, so I don't have more. Might just get em online

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>>41963481
Bumping sterons question

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Am i the only one who loves dnp?
>roiding so making gains anyway
>mild dose of 500mg dnp lets me stay at or less than 12% BF at 190+ lbs with no diet discipline
>eat whatever i want, when i want
>go out partying and get wasted as fuck, eating good food and have a great time without worrying about muh physique, and bitches love a man that can drink and live how he wants
Literally just stay hydrated and deal with being warm and you can live how you want while looking like a god. You all act like the sides are so hardcore.

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>>41963796
>Why would you not buy separate drawing and injecting needles?
To be honest I draw and inject with the same 25g needle, never had pip since week 1 either. The broads working the pharmacy counter at Shoppers never seem to understand what I'm looking for when I ask for draw needles so I just said fuck it and ran with it. That said, I sure as shit wouldn't try pinning oil with a 31g unless I had a lot of time on my hands.

>>41963645
No but i eat pussies like you for breakfast.
You think i abuse drugs? That i couldnt have gotten here without it?
Well in that case you abuse calories you fatass fuckface.

>>41963910
Watch your blood pressure there, mr roidrage.

>>41963856
It's shit like this that's making me seriously consider trying DNP but I know I don't know nearly enough about saying safe with it. Tempting, but I don't want to die.

>It is safe if you aren't an idiot
Therein lies the problem.

>>41963870
Why not just buy them online though? I'm not a people person in the slightest so being able to get everything over the internet is a godsend for me.

A 14 yrs old cyclist was caught using oral steroids. How fucked will his health be in the future?

>>41963927
It just raises your tdee, taking it constantly like that is retarded for many reasons. Great for short bursts though, esp combined with a harsh diet protocol and lots of movement. Even just long walks.

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>>41963927
I have bought absolutely everything to do with my roids in person, and I don't like waiting for packages to get here - so I just buy them IRL. They're only 20 cents each at the pharmacy so I don't mind. I really should order gear online though, as it's much cheaper it seems.

>>41963925
Haha classic, "mr roidrage"... classic go to insult for you liberal beta males. Cry about it sissy boy, ill still pound the shit out of ur mom tonight with this big ass tren cock

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>>41963979
But it also makes you very warm, and since it usually feels like it's 100+ degrees in the summer where I live, I'd rather wait on it than die.

>>41963993
I only know like three people irl who do this kind of stuff, two of which don't sell it, and one of which would probably tell my family.

Also I hate going outside.

what do i take to be like clarence

>>41964102
You must attend the hogwarts school of witchcraft and wizardry

>>41964082
>>41964082
I've taken up to 600mg/day for a week working in south FL in a kitchen with no ac.

I'm sure you'll be fine, just make sure you have a way to cool yourself down when sleeping. DNP is so overhyped. The fatloss and the effects, just like every other non-pschoactive drug.

>>41964274
>working in south FL in a kitchen with no ac.
O shit, alright then. Maybe I won't be so bad off then.
>just make sure you have a way to cool yourself down when sleeping.
Haha alright I'll just have to make sure nobody is in bed with me to accidentally keep me too warm with their body heat.

Wait that's how I am anyway.

;-;

>>41962814
mast runs just 100mg mast haha pathetic

Is 22 too young to roid?

>>41964509
read the wiki

>>41964509
You think anyone that achieved or meant anything in fitness cared what was "too young".

>>41964274
>>41964374
have been on 500 last week at 35°C
the heat is okay but i sweat a lot like full drenched shirt in an instant. had to keep 3-4 spare tshirts with me to change to not feel disgusted by myself.

droped to 250 now and its a hell of a lot better. but i will end those fucking double digit %bf and never fall for that "muh dirty bulk muh tren nutrition pathing muhcant get fat on roids" ever again. i rather kill myself with dnp than get 20% again

Tfw still natty, i just keep telling myself next year or once i hit the right amount of weight on my lifts.

I have everything i need for a cycle except for needles, just dont feel rdy to take the dive.


Wanted to bench 140kg before went on gear, 10kg away... am i wasting my time or better to get most out of my natty gains?

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>>41964102
>>41964175

im srs
what can i take to be super strong and recover fast but look natty like my husbando clarence

>>41964712
I barely notice 250 unless I'm working out, and then it's just like slightly warmer and sweatier than normal.

600mg is kinda shit as far as being able to function in my opinion, I usually just run up to 400mg max and I can still workout and sleep.

>>41964811
>Look natty
>Clarence
Ha

Just start with lots of.test e and go from there. My favorite blasts are always high test based.

nolvadex protocol for mid-cycle gyno treatment desu?

>>41965382
20-40mg ed

Can steroids give you hollow cheeks and and make your cheekbones more prominent?

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What else should I order from my panjeet ancillary supplier besides HCG and aromasin? And does anyone else find it kinda weird that there's basically only 1 brand for aromasin unless you're willing to pay out the ass for Bayer?

>>41965382
60mg ralox am/pm

>>41965479
well what do you need lol

last time I ordered pharma I got asin+cialis+viagra+ralox. caber?

>only 1 brand
xtane and pfizer?

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>>41965525
>well what do you need lol
Just HCG really. I have asin raws and a couple bottles of caber.

Just wondered if anything else was worth picking up since it's $25 for EMS.

>>41965479
>1 brand

Nah mate. There's xtane, pfizer, bayer and some other one

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>>41965560
Only ones I've seen are xtane and Pfizer. The Pfizer pills were coated and a pain in the ass to split.

Never seen Bayer. I think euros have Astra zenika brand.

What are we training today lads?

>doesn't have the willpower to cut
>decides to do steroids which requires 10x more willpower and responsibility

never change /fraud/

why don't I feel my test yet it's been 1.5 weeks

>>41963022
lol. You put yourself through "he"ll" for only 5lbs a week as a fat fuck? You dont know what hard work is....

>>41965970
You don't feel test unless you are a low test faggot to start

>>41965970
Takes a month faggot why are you cycling if you don't know this KYS

>>41965970
Frontload with 3ccs of prop
You'll feel something then

I started eating my gfs ass a couple days ago and now I can't stop, first time either of us have tried it. It makes me cum hard.

>>41966326
gross

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>>41965868

OHP, bench variation, and upper body accessories. I tried out max-width bench grip for my spoto press, and I really liked it. I'll probably try it out for regular bench next time I do it. It's only one finger width out, but it felt good.

Last time I maxed out on bench, I actually struggled to touch my chest with full tightness, so we'll see how spreading out the grip affects that.

What about you, anon?

>>41965961

>doesn't have the willpower to permabulk for maximum strength gains
>decides to do steroids which requires 10x more willpower and responsibility

Don't you look foolish.

>>41966367
You don't need willpower to permabulk you fatass

Anything wrong with putting HCG and test in the same syringe for subq?

>>41966373

You do when you have to look in the mirror every day.

>>41966389
yeah water and oil

can I get sick from eating asshole if it's clean

>>41966558
You are already sick in the head for putting your mouth on a butthole

>>41966326
same

we were both pretty grossed out by the idea at first but while I was eating her out something compelled me to do it and it turned out to be really fuckin great...

would recommend 10/10 if your girl has a really really clean asshole

>>41966558
Potentially but unlikely

>>41966526
Your body has water and oil in it. It can process both at the same time. So what if the solutions dont mix in syringe, they will in vivo

Tfw the tren starts kicking in and you start upping the preworkout carbs

Im getting big and strong as fuck bois. Need to take some new pics and shiet soon.

Should I add a bunch of test and eq the last few weeks of my tren blast to transition into a bulk (obv continuing eq and high test, maybe 250-300mg deca once the tren is out of my system.

>>41966619
yeah I love sucking on it and kissing it

it feels so dirty and morally wrong my DICK

Is coinbase fucked or what?

Anyone used them recently? I hear they're having delays sending out btc

>>41966890
Do you buy from other people on coin base who overprice their bitcoin, or are you able to buy bitcoin at it's actual price?

>>41966916
Through coinbase, though there are fees as always

>>41966879
Look boys, eating ass is great, but I'm telling you, tongue punch that shithole. Shove that tongue in that asshole and wiggle around.
Another thing is make sure once you get used to that and need to move on to the next level, suck some tranny dick. It's honestly the best plot twist ever.

>>41966890
fine for me

>>41966916
directly exchange price

>>41966952
Gay

>>41966763
>600mg tren and 50mg anadrol
>Tfw you eat 5 cups of rice with dinner
It's like I'm a rice furnace, sweating like mad.

>>41966965
Good to hear thanks, ready to stock up for my next blast

The only reason I haven't tried trest is because I hate pinning daily. Trest D has just become available, would it be dumb to jump on a long ester of this?
Obviously I would have prami and loads of Asin+letro&ralox on hand

>>41967139
what compounds have you tried?

>>41967151
Currently running teste/trene low dose for cutting
Pretty much every oral under the sun except halo and mtren
Aside from that only deca in the past

>>41967139
Yes.

Yes it would be a very bad idea.

>>41967178
Due to the obvious reason of having to wait a long time for it to clear or should I avoid trest in general?

>>41967252
Technically both but no reason not to try ace if you're really interested in it.

Definitely not a fuckhuge ester though, trest is like titties in a vial. 19-nor with estrogen that doesn't bind to shbg

>gf is constantly saying how she wants a boob job
>considering buying her one

>>41967280
Degenerate

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Ready to down another 100dnp so I can eat more. When realistically I should down another 100 and not eat anything. Fugg -1000kcals is hard to maintain.

>>41967275
I don't typically go for every designer oil that comes out but I had heard that trest doesn't require a test base.
>19-nor with estrogen that doesn't bind to shbg
I did not know this and it definitely concerns me.
Thanks for the advice rather than just calling me a retard

>>41967288
Proverbs 5:19 "A loving doe, a graceful deer-- may her breasts satisfy you always, may you ever be intoxicated with her love."

>>41966698
Go ahead buddy. Have fun with your access.

>>41967311
Have you tongued her anus

>>41967296
how old?

>>41967311
You are mocking god work with your artificial plastic, reevaluate your beliefs, do you really want to follow Jesus path or do you just like le epik kill muslims memes?

>>41967345
No.

>>41967379
By that logic I'm mocking God by injecting exogenous hormones.

>>41967473
why haven't you licked her asshole yet are you gay

>>41967349
I'm 26

>>41967473
You should only inject NATTY test and don't use AI

>>41967349
>>41967496
Or you talking about the chick? Idk she's some celebrity, off her insta idk who tho

>>41965469
cutting can fatass

How do you guys deal with the fact every girl you meet has touched multiple dicks that aren't yours

>>41967688
by not being insecure and knowing I am a demi god among boys as such all dicks pale in comparison

>>41967688
Lolis

Guys I did an injection into my VG of 1ml test e about six hours ago and ever since I've had a shortness of breath and the feeling of something in my throat, did I get a little bit of a vein and when is it going to go away if it's related to my pin

>>41967784
If you were going into severe respiratory distress from mainlining some oil you would know about it.

Yesterday after i went to bed my nips started feeling weird. Not itching or something like that but im still feeling something i never felt before. BUT im only 2 pins in my first blast and i had my glands removed when i had my gyno surgery. Is it possible that this feeling is connected with test injection and is it possible at all to get "sensetive" nips from gear while you have no glands anymore? Maybe it's something else but i can definietely tell it's my nip area.

>>41968026
Sensitivity does not always mean incoming gyno, but take your bitch tits prep if you want to be sure.

view-source:>>41962646

>>41967280
>gf

back with that cunt again you cuck?

>>41967512
This. Hcg only.

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>>41964509
Too late too old.

how do you guys bleed yourself to help with high bp/cholesterol etc?

>>41967688
Do you want some inexperienced woman? My gf couldn't suck dick for shit when i met her, because she never did it much in her life because she only had some pencil dicks before me.

I had to let her watch porn to get some inspiration from


>>41969055
fucking stupid, just fucking donate. Why take that dumb risk. It's free, done by professionals and you help other people.

How does it even help with bp and cholesterol, lmao

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Cycle report, week 10

Have made no progress since week 1. However I am going to reforge my willpower into a psyche so strong I'll be able to withstand water boarding, let alone my salsa cravings.

I look like Lee Preist in bulk mode, except without any of the muscles

>>41967688
and those guys aren't even chads or anything but BETA LANKLETS or SKINNYFATS

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So if stored fats can be used as energy in a calorie deficit, and injecting roids means ~5000kcals can go towards gains, would injecting roids into my 50 year old 30% bf dad and telling him to eat ~2500kcals of protein make his body turn the extra fat into energy and make just as much gains as a 7% bf guy eating 5000kcals???

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>60 year old dad's been on trt for 2 years
>now he's considering getting on tren

Is this safe lads?

>>41969136
No

>>41969168
No. It's retarded.

Tell him to increase the test and add DHB or Bold for similar but healthier results.

>>41969219
Why retarded?
He's very healthy for his age and can lift 1/2/2/3 and can beat up most 20 year olds.

>>41969295
Does a sixty y.o gave the connectivity tissue requirements to get a huge strength boost or want the sides that go along with tren. He should do what the other anon suggested. I'd say deca though for comfy joints

What is this fucking cracking feeling and pain when I inject my quads ? Every fucking time I fucking hate them now.

I'd say scar tissue but shoulders chest or anything don't do that bs

>>41969643
Is it like a small crack when puncturing the skin? I've had that on fresh sites.
Like I've had to rip and tear trough a certain layer of muscle/anything.
Goes away after 2-3 weeks of injecting that spot.

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>>41963347
>what is this, someone is stronger and better looking than me?
>must be steroids!

So I just started a light cutting (or rather recomp) cycle. Opinions?

>1000 MagJack (tren + prop) per week (pins are painful as fuck by the way)
>60-80 Anavar per day
>4 iu GH 5-6 days per week
>.5 arimidex MWF
>40 clen daily

Thanks /fraud/

Hey guys, adrol, sdrol, asin, etc - what size capsules for homebrew? Size 0 seems pretty common to be able to get

>tfw feel too big
Is there a friendly cruise that will allow me to maintain my tren gains? Will test only do?

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>>41967280
lmao so now she's gf and you're considering dropping ten large on buying her cans? how do I into this level of alpha?

>>41967688
by not being a puritan faggot. go for low n-count, not zero n-count.

>>41967784
first shot? it's 100% nerves, otherwise this: >>41967797

>>41969101
wait, you've been cycling for 10 weeks and have made zero progress? what's your cycle? you know you're supposed to lift, right?

>>41970448
I like boobs

>>41968026
bumping for more answers

>>41970089
the question you should ask is what size capping machine can you get

>>41970337
literally just cruise on test

>>41968026
>>41970819
is it the actual nipple or the general area? gyno isn't in the nipple, the gland is behind the moob.

you should still deal with high e2 sides regardless of whether you can still grow tits though, so the answer doesn't really matter

>>41970337
When you say such things you're not even small. Even worse than that.

If you're truly big you're forever small

>41970669
How can you live with yourself? You will get her the boob job and then she will leave your beta ass for the bbc.

Thankss for the boob jobb faggott, i will make good use of it when the bbc slips between my new tittiesss

NOTHING LAST FOREVER. Everything has an end. I am baffled your fucking life hasn't ended yet, because i see no reason for you to be alive anymore.

>>41962646
>I didn't even really want to be shredded for summer edition

This is now a FAT HATE Thread

/FAT/ - It's only muh genetics

>>41970856
>the answer doesn't really matter
Well it does. Is it possible to get this feeling when you don't have any glands? Im guessing those itchy/sensetive nips feeling is coming from the gland.

>you should still deal with high e2 sides
no doubt about that

Doing babies first tren ace cycle.

50mg eod.

Was gonna up it to 100mg eod if I don't feel it by end of first week?

>>41971081
prolactin for example makes your areola much larger, independent of the gyno gland and will give you that same itching feeling.

you cannot grow tits anymore if you got the gland completely removed, period. now where the actual sensation is coming from is hard to guess when you just say it feels like something you've never felt before. increase the AI and see where it gets you, or get bloods.

>>41971092
As long as you're not going above 150-200 test, that would be fine. I'd recommend 200/400

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>>41970910
> I am baffled your fucking life hasn't ended yet, because i see no reason for you to be alive anymore.
kek

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I'm supposed to rest/cardio today cause i did back and shoulders yesterday and got heavy deadlifts tomorrow... but it's hard to get pumped up to go just do cardio, i wanna skip the rest.
What do

>>41971399
i didn't know that nipples are so complicated. I tought it's mainly for covering the glands and as soon as the glands are removed nips become just a decoration

>>41971641
>cardio
It's why I stay fasted for 9-12 hours before so I can make sure I do cardio before I eat. I tell myself what's the point of being fasted that long if I'm not even going to do any cardio.
I do that with lifts too, now that I'm cutting.

SERIOUSLY WHY ARE THERE SO MANY KEKS ON THIS WORLD

>on work
>colleague says he's alone at home today
>he's asking what he should make for himself for dinner
>other colleagues are giving him tips
>no, no i can't eat meat because my gf is vegan
>yeah, but she's not at home? so what's the problem?
>when she comes home she will smell the meat and will get mad
>she don't like the smell when she comes home
>i am laughing at him, you fucking serious? she's wearing the pants?
>probably when you come home she will put you in the dog crate also?
>yeah but she's a princess..
>he walks away awkwardly with red face award smile..

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFF IS WRONG WITH YOU BETA KEK, ITS EVERYWHERE NOT ONLY HERE

i am no kidding, i see it everywhere irl. Why are you faggots such pussies

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Upped my dose to 350 dnp yesterday. Been only doing 200, but I stalled at 234 lbs. On -1000kcal. Going to run 300+ the next 5 days because I was supposed to hit 230 by 5July. I've only got 2 weeks of dnp left cus I'm not trying to run it more than a month at a time.
Considering upping my tren to 400 for 5 more weeks after the dnp is done and I'm hanging around maintenance for a bit. Love that tren skin look when I'm really tan.

>>41963695
bumping for answer

>>41971670
You should have invited him over too your place and served him a fat steak, and then tell him to grow some balls over a beer. That's what a Chad would do. Brad would just insult him and make him feel bad and embarrassed. That's why Chad is Chad, he makes people feel good, so everyone likes him.

>>41969821
>>41969643
wtf

>>41971991
25g hurts? You might be doing something wrong senpai.

>>41963695
>>41971991
1) yes you can, but I recommend looking into your injection technique because 25g shouldn't hurt
2) don't use the same needle to draw and inject
3) the whole drawing and injecting process is gonna take you like 30 minutes because of how small the needles are
4) those gauges come only on slin pins, which usually means 0.5inch length. you sure that's enough?

>>41971670
mast you seem to be a little wild recently. you ok senpai?

>>41972132
>>41972269
thanks senpai

>>41970831
any 00 to 3 it seems

>>41972038
And lately she also went to fucking Ibiza without him. HE picked her up from the airport when she came back and probably was tired from all the bbc

CAN YOU IMAGINE


>>41972295
No, but that weakness makes me so fucking mad.

fucking men cry in front of woman and woman decide what to fucking eat, wear and JUST LMAO

i hear such stories in real life many times, you're fucking pathetic losers

>>41972323
well generally it's either 0 or 00, there isn't much difference. smaller is better if you want to use less filler and know you don't want more than 500mg per cap (which you might if you're gonna cap something like tudca)

>>41972428
I like having my girl pick out clothing for me when we're shopping, what's the issue

she has a better sense of style than I do and knows what looks good on me

>>41971725
I don't fucking understand dnp, I stalled eating the same deficit at 250

Felt bloated as shit so I just stopped, dropped around 26 lbs this cut anyway so fuck it

>>41972500
Because you don't have own identity. You're afraid your girl don't like it and will leave you because of that. Because maybe, that other guy who dresses better than will me cuck me. THAT's what your weak cuck beta mind is saying.

You're a fucking afraid to be yourself. How can you live with yourself? Look at yourself in the mirror and say that shit to yourself. If you didn't kill yourself by then you have my utter respect you survived it.

How do you became such a weak minded faggot? Probably raised by your mother and fucked by your uncle in the ass. You don't know any better, thus i probably shouldn't blame you for that.

>>41972500
>>41972548
there is a difference between your girl picking out what you have to wear and giving suggestions which you can follow or ignore

>>41972548
k

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>>41972588
No shit there is. She can have her opinion. But yours is leading. YOU ARE THE ONE WHOS WEARING the clothes, not she. If she states that you should wear a pink dress covered with dildos on it you will also wear it, because sheee knows that looks best on me. lmao, yeah maybe it does look good on you. Who knows.

i rather be forever alone jerking on fucking gay and tranny porn than be a fucking cuck like you faggots. have some fucking self esteem


>BUTT MUHH GF THINK IT LOOKS GOOD ON ME!!!

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>>41972548
>>41972500

Hey man, I let my girl decide which clothes to pick if I can't decide between what to buy.
She knows what clothes objectively look better on me.
That said, I don't let her bring clothes home for me, I'm picky as fuck.

Also.
> MFW she is studying what steroids are and what compound does what, reads the dangers and is still perfectly okay with Tren.

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>>41972700
I let my mom pick out my clothes does that count

>>41972818
Only if you're mom says you're the prettiest boy.

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>>41972827
Actually the other day she completely shit on me for wearing a shirt that she bought me, so I don't even know anymore man.

Also unrelated but I've got this weird feeling in like a vein or nerve or something where my armpit and bicep meet. It doesn't hurt it just feels weird, idk how to explain it. Am I going to die?

>>41972843
If you're lucky you will but it's probably a pinched nerve or a sensitive tendon. You seem like a sensitive boy.

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>>41972855
>You seem like a sensitive boy.
I am thank you for understanding

Pick related is kinda where it is. Like I said doesn't hurt but since yesterday I've started becoming aware that I was feeling something from it.

>>41972038
>chad and brad
You must be 18 to post on this board.

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Im literally only 5 days into my first test cycle and already im experiancing things i never felt before. For the first time in 2-3 years im feeling my chest after benching, my hamstrings were twitching for 2 days after leg curls and im getting hungrier every day. Is this fucking placebo effect or what?

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>>41972894
>Tfw you will never be chad or brad, only sad
I want off this ride

>>41972918
Might be placebo effect senpai, I'm told the Test doesn't really start to become noticeable until a few weeks or so in (unless you're taking an oral with it then probably sooner)
I've been feeling the same but I've been shaking them off as my mind playing tricks on me. But since this is also my first cycle, I'm not sure.

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>>41972918
maybe u started to train like normal human being. common thing with ppl who has shit training background and hops on cycle

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>>41972918
>Is this fucking placebo effect or what?

yes

is Nolva enough to prevent gyno flare up during a cycle?

thoughts on this cycle? Anything I should change?

week 1 - 20
750mg test e
600mg tren e
900mg EQ

week 1 - 5
350mg tren a
350mg npp
10-20mg sdrol ed

week 1 - 7
50 - 100mg anadrol ed

week 13 - 20
50mg anavar ed

week 15 - 20
50mg winstrol ed
10mg sdrol ed

TUDCA will be taken the weeks im on orals

>>41973009
No you also need 1mg of Arimidex and day and don't forget your caber or letro.
You'll still get gyno regardless, every roider just gets under the knife after every cycle.

>>41972918
Placebo, but that placebo may have led to some actual effort in training, what >>41972988 said really.

>>41972944
Fake it till you make it.

>>41972855
>>41972871
This, just go easy and keep an eye on it.

>>41973009
No, aromasin / arimidex is to prevent gyno, nolva is to stop it if it flares up

>>41973056
Are you stacking Tren A with E? I get that you want it to pop in fast and let the E ester take over but I dunno.

>>41973009
>>41973063

This. Ignore my shitpost.
DO NOT use nolva on Deca or Tren.

>>41973079
yahim thinking about stacking ace and enth for the first couple of weeks to get the tren going!

>>41973063
>>41973079
you are stupid

nolva stops the binding at the titty estrogen receptors, so yes you can very much prevent gyno with it.

it's dumb because you don't deal with the underlying cause (the high e2) but you can very much use nolva only and never grow tits

>>41973079
>DO NOT use nolva on Deca or Tren.
Explane you'reselve.

>>41973159
>it's dumb because you don't deal with the underlying cause (the high e2)

Then Nolva still stands as a shit choice doesn't it?

>>41973152
You will get an overlap of Tren and go way past 600mg, you do realise that right?
Be patient, not supid, that Tren E will kick in 2 weeks or less and you'll get to enjoy a (long) 18 weeks on it.

>>41973211
Too lazy to look it up right now, but it worsens the prolactin related gyno.
I had gyno flaring up, popped nolva and it was only getting worse.
Wasn't until I looked it up, dropped the Nolva and it went away.

>>41973235
yeah I totally understand, my lasdt run with tren was 800mg tren e ew and 350 tren a ew the first 4 weeks, 5 weeks with both esters should be fine, if not I'll just drop the tren if I cant handle it

>>41973260
Your call, hope it simply goes well for you.

Let us know, I never really thought of "kickstarting" Tren that way.

>>41973235
>Then Nolva still stands as a shit choice doesn't it?
eh. estrogen is anabolic, if you can suffer through the high e2 sides and not grow tits at the same time, you can possibly make more gains than if you just nuked it.

there was/is a lot of discussion around using serms with dbol instead of ai for precisely that reason

>>41973319
Isn't the difference pretty slim for what you have to endure?

>>41973338
hard to say, while there is some science behind it, it's not something that would be researched or tested in a controlled environment, so we only have bro anecdotes to go by.

personally I just use AI because fuck that but I can see the reasoning

>>41972700
That's because you already picked two options. That's something way different than she totally decides what you should wear without caring about your opinion and that happens on a fucking daily basis. AROUND YOU.

I see fucking faggots wear faggot like hipster clothing because muhh girl said it looks good on me LMAO

NOT IS SUBJECTIVELY NOT OBJECTIVELY

It's not A FACT is her opinion. You let her think she has some value, but you are the pack leader

Is there any other reason apart of being easier on the lipids to use proviron over mast?

>when you buy a new 11lb bag of whey but it's a new flavor you've never tried
fuck I hope this chocolate and peanut butter thing doesn't taste like ass

>>41973526
My girl teases me for wearing warmips everywhere but fuck it I'm big and they're comfy. Besides she's not complaining when it takes 3 seconds to pull out my cock as opposed to 25.

>>41973637
Ah yes, whey. My favorite steroid.

I mean if you liked the chocolate flavor then I'm sure it's fine.

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Eating entire bag of cookies and ice cream cause I'm on juice so it turns to solid muscle boys. 45 lbs of muscle in 30 days :)

>>41973695
0/10 apply yourself

>>41973695
Supp store shills are the worst tho.
>go to pick up mk677
>they're out, only have the gh+ stuff
>similar and heard good things about it
>"yeah you'll gain 20 lbs of solid muscle on this"
Do people actually believe this shit?

>>41973695
Dont forget to skip your compound movements (:

>>41973737
Wait you can pick up memek677 at a supp shop?

>>41973803
Ur dum

do many people here inject subQ?
I've read it allows your T levels to be more stable and avoids developing scar tissue

>>41973637
made the same mistake at the start of my lifting life. i puked while drinking my first shake of rasberry something. took a long look at myself and gone trough the whole container cause i am no pussy.

since that day i dont give a fuck about food tasting good anymore

>>41973338
I'm pretty sure estrogen plays a big role in satellite cell proliferation.

Low e2 might not hurt short term gains but you are leaving shit on the table long term.

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>>41973838
IM has been used for decades for a reason, but do you bby

>>41973909
I would appreciate if you would stop giving advice, your last two posts answering questions have been fucking stupid

>>41973838
Good for cruising, not for blasting

Just remembered that I'm going to be sharing a house with 9 other people for 9 days starting Saturday, gonna have to find a way to keep my Test stuff under wraps. Suggestions my dudes?

>inb4 shove it up your ass

>>41973803
Well this is a special supp shop. Sells all SARMs. Welcome to America.

>>41973935
>>41973952
>>41973967
>>41973982
Are you fucking retarded

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>>41973838
subq is better for trt but not much else. slow absorption + you can't inject much in one site at a time (0.5ml recommended, going above 1ml is retarded) + not many sites (relative to the slow absorption speed)

how your compound is brewed will also impact how you react, something with a lot of solvent will burn like a motherfucker. tren burns like a motherfucker.

if you only inject trt levels of test once or twice a week, it's very good, otherwise don't bother

I'm gonna do a winstrol only cycle.
Do I need pct?
Anyone else ever did winny only?
Spare me the "hurr stack it with test do you even pin lolol noob"

>>41974003
>what is email

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>>41973993
>Small purses
I will not have you making derogatory statements about the size of my sack, thank you very much

I'll try this out. Anyway to keep overly curious children out of it though?

>>41974003
Fair enough

>>41974003
250 posts is not coming to an end. at daytime fraud speeds that's like 3+ more hours

>>41974012
>>41974017
>>41974030
>>41974034

Wait why don't you just post this shit on /b/ then, it's literally the dumping grounds for things like this.

>>41974007
consider suicide

I hope you're like 9% bf

>>41974011
place it on the top drawer where they cant reach

can't fucking wait for summer to be over so that I can start my first cycle, I'm so fucking psyched

>>41973946
>>41973994
Thanks - was thinking of just cruising on a lower level of test anyway

>>41973977
frontload a gram before leaving

I'm pretty sure there's no way to hide vials, syringes, pins and dispose of syringes safely without being caught with 9 people living with you

>>41974045
Maybe saying children was incorrect. Where can I hide it so mentally challenged teenagers wouldn't find it?

Been thinking of going all out and hollowing out a book or something. No one in my family would think to crack one of those open.

>>41974082
I feel like that might cause some pretty major issues senpai. Also I'm sure there's a way, I just need to be creative about it.

>>41974093
Summer.

>>41974103
jokes on you, I've been here for 4 years

>>41974110
>Jokes on you, I was only pretending to be retarded

Aight.

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This is by far my favorite workout/pinning inspiration quote. Say it to myself every time i get scared to pin or am too tired for that next set.
Share yours

Any recommendations for steroid forums other than this one and reddit? Ones where people are big and lift weights would be nice. Maybe one with a powerlifting focus?

>>41974166
meso rx

>>41974160
kys

>>41974160
that's gay

>>41974160
"Mama didn't raise no bitch."

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>>41974166
>powerlifting
You dont need roids to get big and strong if you've already accepted being 45% bodyfat

I think i can understand the black peoples obsession with watermelons now... shit is delicious

>>41973531
Pls respond

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>>41974160

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>>41974214
>being small and weak

>>41974260
literally 40% bf

>>41974160

>needing inspiration to work out and pin

Pussy.

Still though, I've always liked, "man cannot remake himself without suffering, for he is both the sculptor and the marble." It reminds me that change and discomfort are good, which I need, because I'm a comfort-zone manchild at times.

Also, that scene from Little Miss Sunshine where the uncle talks to his nephew about suffering was pretty good.

>>41974178

I'll take a look there, thanks.

>>41974214

Por que no los dos?

>>41974225

I always felt like the watermelon and fried chicken stereotypes were silly. Black people love that shit because everybody loves that shit.

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>>41974278
Who?

>>41974295
>I'll take a look there, thanks
you'll get big people talking about the most retarded broscience in the world

it's like bizarro fraud/reddit. the people there are big but fucking retarded and basically just inject stuff without really knowing what they're doing while over here and on r/steroids most people do a shit ton of research but still look like they've never lifted a day in their life.

actually now that I think about it, meso is like a forum full of masTs

>>41974342
He is not wrong and you know it

>>41974178
>>41974340

>go to meso-rx cycle log forum
>150-lb beginners
>some guy in his forties who's been lifting for 20 years and is excited to get to a 200kg deadlift with his fifth cycle
>bunch of other people who don't post pictures or stats

Where are these big guys? Gonna look around more and see if I can find them.

>>41974340
>you'll get big people talking about the most retarded broscience in the world
better than here where it's a bunch of dyels asking the same six questions every day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg5C3OuEuyg
thoughts on this?

>>41974340

God dammit, I can't look at any of the pictures without making an account, and I can't just find their before/after pictures without sifting through ninety pages of posts. I hate the old forum formats.

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>>41974160

>>41974440
But what if I want to run an oral only cycle? How long do I do TRT? Will doing sterons get me a gf?

>tfw pounding a giant bowl of oats on tren
I feel like a fireplace powered by carbs instead of wood.

>anadrol making me break the fuck out

God damn. Never had acne my entire life and now I got a bunch of little red pimples on my back and shoulders. REEEEEE guess I'm getting accutane.

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So my willpower on psmf lasts exactly a week.

I've made 5 attempts over a period of 1.5 years, every single time it's 5-10 days and then I break. But for most of that week I'm pretty functioning, just the second or third day is really challenging, until I hit that wall.

So here's my plan. Next blast instead of cutting at the end, I'll program in a weeklong hard cut every three weeks. So three weeks slow bulk, one week psmf (or other drastic cut >1200kcal), repeat.

Thoughts on this? If you think it's retarded, that's fine just explain why.

>>41975581
Might as well fuck around and try it. Let us know dude.

>>41975581

I tried that once. Did it in time with my deloads. I didn't recover well. Maybe it's because I was natty, though.

Try it and let us know what happens.

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not really steroid related, but besides sticking needles into my ass every 3 days to get muscle I've never done any type of drugs before like weed

what should I do for my first time? what is LSD like? should I try MDMA? or should I be a pussy and do weed first?

I wanna get fucked up

>>41976053
Craziest psychedelic in my experience is weed. It can be so temperamental. LSD and mushrooms are easy in terms of knowing what to expect and being able to say "it's just a drug". Weed can have me on a couch for 90 minutes just trying not to die.

My recommendation is mdma.

>>41976053
Underage

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>>41976053
Dude WEEED lol dude DRRRUUUGGS parrtaayyy

>>41976109
>>41976117

the "I wanna get fucked up" line was said half jokingly
I know how cringy it sounds my friend
was gonna say I wanna get LIT but that's too obvious

>>41976095
what should I expect from mdma?

>>41976132
Buy a gram of weed and some papers and figure it out tard

>>41976053
>what is LSD like?
pretty cool, feels like weed+ but in my opinion lasts way too long. if I take it when I wake up, I will be lucky to be able to go to sleep 20 hours later due to afterglow.
MDMA is trash and utterly fucks your brain up for years to come, not worth it really. the high is just good feels, though it is great, again it is not worth the cost.
shroom are cool, not really like LSD that much. I get way more visual stuff on them and it makes my legs (and arms to an extent) noodle feeling as fuck so it can make it hard to move around and do things. also vomiting, it will happen unless you do the tea method. and even then, you may throw up. it's just a given with shrooms

honestly, weed is all you need. smoking it and making edibles is the best. LSD is close second, but due to taking basically two of your days to do it it's not very practical

>>41976143
Peace, happiness and understanding. Also when you get sober you understand that it makes you a complete beta and a woman. And id you too it too much you want to dance

t. Did it twice and nomore

>>41976174
I love LSD, the massive duration makes for an epic saga of surrealism every time.

what will natty test boosters or estrogen blockers do for my gf?

>>41976194
t. Insecurities and drugs

>>41976174
>feels like weed+
You sure that was LSD and not a cheap analogue? For me they feel completely different. Did you test it before taking? Quality shit is a rollercoaster through dreamland.

hey guys, skelly here. after forcing myself to eat for a month my body has finally given up.

is mk-677 the best thing to increase appetite? i cant smoke weed (anxiety). need to eat!

>>41976508
Eq, ghrp, tren, mk can all help.

>tfw you've cruised on hcg for a while and shoot a load so big he thinks there's something wrong with you

>>41976522
yea but is mk-677 is the safest/easiest of these? i like the "set it and forget it" style of just taking it in the morning and not having to worry about cycling or limiting my diet and all that

thanks btw

>>41976545
Hormones and peds aren't for you.

>>41976508
drink your calories nigga

mk677 is a maybe. it might not make you as hungry as you think it'll make you or it might work. there isn't really a downside though so why not.

>>41976557
i didnt ask for peds/hormones i'm just trying to increase my appetite, maybe /fraud/ isnt the best place to ask but figured you'd guys know some supplements or RC's

>>41976563
yea i was and it was working for a few months but this last week i havent been able to stomach anything. literally drank a 1/3 of my shake and puked.

>>41976588
>Comes to peds thread
>i didnt ask for peds

>>41976588
Mk is a non peptide growth hormone secretagogue. A ped for sure. You just seem a little clueless and we aren't an FAQ.

>>41970910
You have a fascination with black dicks masT

I have a fascination with tits

>>41976019
>Did it in time with my deloads
Yeah that was my plan. Usually skip the deload lmao.

I'll let you guys know the results. Big part of this is I can't just bulk hard cause I'm already 13-15% so if I lose bf% this is my new go to protocol.

>>41976053
Weed first

Then mdma

Then mushrooms, just because it's not a 10-12 hour ride like LSD. Alternatively go with LSD not a big deal, I just say mushies to first timers.

>>41976482
Yeah LSD is way different than weed, much clearer headspace until you hit higher doses.

Plus what pussy throws up on mushrooms. I barely get nausea eating 1/4, just those weird feels on come up

>>41976545
mk677 might help, its probably the most convenient being a non injectabe, liquid will taste bad, pills fine.

LGD can help regulate appetite and for me offsets appetite suppression that some other drugs supposed to have (I take it with a test base though) - but youll either have test suppression or need to take it with a test base, MK677 wont have those side effects.

Anamorelin is better than MK677 if you can find it, same class/type of drug.

what's the female equivalent of low test? is it those tomgirl chicks with no ass or tits?

what would happen if you gave them estrogen injections? could they get bigger boobs or look like those high test board girls?

>>41977229
high test is more muscle not "THICC" fatties.

I too would like to know how supraphysiological doses of estrogen would affect a woman physically.

Probs higher chance of onset of breast cancer and higher levels of narcissism and sociopathy.

>>41977229
Cancer, all kinds of cancer, estrogen is linked to all kinds of cancer, even in men - not DHT as previously thought in prostate cancer etc, prostate cancer also is accompanied by higher levels of estrogen it appears too.

"high blood pressure, glucose intolerance (symptoms similar to diabetes) or worsening of the disease in diabetic patients, unusual sensitivity to the sun, and high blood levels of calcium"

And thats before you consider the above post on psychological effects.

How do some of these guys on Reddit blast such huge doses of so many compounds and still look natty? Is it because they're all doing this stupid GVT shit?

>>41976508

Milk. Chocolate milk if you're feeling crazy

Guys i have been on TRT for a few weeks now and all of a sudden I have injection anxiety?

>>41977858
volume training + high roids should pack on size, maybe theyre either still beginners, or not lifting, or not roiding at all, or not eating.

Though if they were not eating they should be end up lean af after enough time, like ripped otter or something.

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