HEIGHT - FACE - FRAME

>>41902694
Shit, Gandy's fit is fucking lit. Any idea what he's wearing.

their body ugly sandnigs. how about posting actual attractive aryans libcuck. nobody wants black or brown cock like you think they do.

>>41902714
Yes, pants, a v-neck shirt, and a belt.

why is he holding that thing like that? looks pretty homo tbqh

>>41902714
He is objectively the most sucessful male model of all time, he wear top tier shit, like Zegna, Tom Ford, Dolce Gabanna suits, so you need to buy quality shit to made it:

He is wearing:
Black v neck sweater
aviators
black semi leather slim pants
brown leather belt
brown leather bag

>>41902839
Thank you for this

Any advice on how to pull this off without looking like a try hard

Shit outfit, only "works" because he's good looking and would look acceptable in a bin bag. Right guy is wearing an even worse version of it and has classic greasy hairgel.

In short, both look like shit and stop trying to cookie cutter copy people because you aren't them so you shouldn't dress exactly like them.

>>41902882
1. be very good looking

you are not so don't even consider trying

>>41902839
>dat entire post
This is some American Psycho shit

>>41902694
>black guy wears all black
>can't pull it off

Well no shit.

Not to mention that he HASN'T got the same physique as gandy, and the clothes he is wearing ARE NOT the same.

If he was taller, was more muscular and was actually wearing the clothes gandy was wearing OR wearing clothes which complement mudskin people, he would look infinitely more attractive.

>>41902839

You can buy good basic things like that in any fast fashion store, and no one cares about the brands you're wearing if you're actually good looking.

Stop being this autistic.

>>41903579

are you saying that zegna and HM clothes look same ?

no.

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>>41902694
Unfortunately this, if you don't have a good looking face then subtract 300lbs from all your gains and that's how everyone will see you.

>t. bald sandpaper complexion facelet

>>41902839
so autistic

I wear classic Brooks Brothers shirts that cost $3 in the thrift store + $15 tailor's fee

all new clothes are shit. all clothes need to be tailored before they fit you correctly

$50 off-the-rack china shirt fags BTFO

>>41903647
I can buy clothes which look almost identical for 1/100th the price.

You're delusional if you think otherwise.

>>41903696
You're delusional if you think the clothes look almost identical.

>>41902694
damn that negro is ugly as shit

>>41903696
>>41903696

fucking ignorant youre just as dillusional as that negro moslem on the ops pic if u think your clothes look identical to top brands. you probably never saw real expensive clothes you fucking P L E B.

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Isn't brown and black no-go?

>>41903745
>>41903712

/fa/ please go back to your containment board.

that guy isn't even wearing clothes similar to gandy. the belt is a different type and colour, jeans are different colour and his v neck isn't as deep as gandy's.

now, he could search around and find clothes which look almost identical to gandy's, but he would still be at a disadvantage height and muscles wise. OP is correct to a certain extent that genetics will always give people like gandy the edge when the playing field is fair.

>>41903777
Can you give me a quick rundown on these two?

>>41903847
They would walk 500 miles
and they would walk 500 more

>>41903777
brown+black is fine, but you'd do better to substitute one or the other with blue

>>41903868
HOLY SHIT I KNEW THEY LOOKED FAMILIAR

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>>41902694
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>>41903889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22gtSCJd9jA

>>41902694
Tfw you have height and frame but are fat and not sure if face is attractive or not

>>41903696
almost identical if you're looking at a picture, but the cheap one will wear like shit, shoulders are the same width as the waist, it is almost always shorter than on a decent brand, shitty quality fabric, lowest quality ink, probably after five or six uses the color will start to slowly fade and some other aspect

i'm not saying you need to buy expensive brands, but at least decent ones, that you know it isn't a china tshirt with a label on it.
specially tshirts and upperbody clothing

>>41904095
Then why at 22 yo am I still a virgin despite being 6'3

Personality > everything else past the first 5 minutes

The best Chad I've every met was an extroverted 5'3 Puerto Rican

>>41903579
>>41903669
>>41903696


I dont know if harry rosin is internation just know they sell top brands for high prices

For christmas my parents bough me a white v neck from harry rosin. Id been used to buying my clothes from american eagle or h and m. I always looked good in those clothes but I am tall, wide shoulders, fit, and attractive. Anyhow I originally thought like you guys. I thought this shirt was a waist of money. But I tried it on. Fucking shit. This shirt perfectly fit my shoulders, had room around the chest but slimmed as it went down. I didn't know clothes could fit so nice.

Go into a luxury clothing store whenever you can. And ask the sales people to find you clothes for your body. You dont have to buy them but try them on. I'd actually suggest waiting for a sale to buy them.

But now Im broke and buy all my shit from thrift shops

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>>41904368
Confidence almost devalues height, there is a threshold though. If you are over 185cm and have no confidence you are fucked.
If you are at least 175cm and have confidence you have really good chances.

>>41904421
>all that text complimenting the fit, instead of the design and make of the shirt

Might as well just buy cheap shit and go get it tailored. You basically confirmed that expensive shirts are a huge meme.

>>41904511
My dick grew an inch from max srs

>>41904511
Wtf does that even mean. Are you saying confidence > height

>>41904511
I am 6'1 and have tons of confidence but I'm ugly as shit and skinny so that means fuck all to anyone other than fat chicks

>>41902694
you can change your frame dumbass.

>>41902694
How wide are the guys shoulders on the left? 21"?

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>>41902694
Daily reminder that if you have an ugly face then don't bother working out because girls will just laugh at you for being insecure.

>>41902714
>lit

>>41902694
i have great height and powerful frame(not max aesthetics potential but max strength potential because wide shoulders and hips, wide everything) my fitness level changes how good my face is. Neck muscle vs neck fat..

>>41904368
because those traits only work with a good face

face > height > frame

a beautiful manlet with francisco lachowski face with narrow shoulders can get 100x times more pussy than this whole forum

>>41905332
just larp as a dirtbag musician.
boom tons of retard hipster feminist pussy
tall ugly skinny but shitty try-hard musician? girls throw themselves at you

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OP Here, another pic for all of you, also

REDPILL

Face >>>>>>>> Personality - Confidence > Height > Frame > Body > Status > Money

Also

Looks/Status/Money = Love/Sluts/Moochers

If you are average you can make it and fuck 10/10 girls, like ryan gosling, he have status, personality money, height and frame and is attractive to girl with a 6/10 face due to all those traits.

>>41902694
guy on left needs to lose those baby cheeks and trade the black belt for a blue one and look more assertive

>>41906869
meant guy on the right

>>41906552
I'd rather kill myself than touch hairy feminist pussy to be honest
Also I'm working on the skinny part, so hopefully I'll just be ugly soon.

>>41903472
>black guy
Look at his hair. He's not black.

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>>41906824
>Face >>>>>>>> Status - Money > > > Personality - Confidence > dick > Height > Frame > Body

>>41906950
i disagree. im 10/10 face with skelly body and 5'9" and i get zero girls

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>>41906824
Money / Status >>>>>>>>>>> Height = Face >> Dick Size >>>> Frame >>>> Body > Confidence > Dog Shit > """""""""Personality"""""""""

ftfy

>>41906971
Then you don't have a 10/10 face

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>>41906971
>im 10/10 face

>>41906971
Post face. Also, what is your social status and personality like?

>>41902694
Am I the only one who thinks the guy on the right doesn't look that bad?

>>41902694
What the fuck is with that face that so many shitskins have?
Dont get me wrong there are plenty of ugly as fuck white and asian people, but that guy has that 5-generations-of-inbreeding face that only ever seems to appear on pakis and nignogs

>>41906971
That literally means you're not a 10/10 you delusional fag

>>41903669
bro buy a sewing machine it's pretty easy

>>41906950
>>41907036
REDPILL AGAIN

Whores doesn't count in this, you and everybody on this thread can pay for a prostitute the same way dan bilzerian does.

Womans don't masturbate thinking in bill gates or warren buffett anons, that isn't how attraction works


>>41906971
sean o'pry and henry cavill are a 9/10, david gandy and tyson ballou are a 10/10

you aren't a 10/10, i don't need to see your face

>>41908249
Cavill is nowhere near O'pry's league

Gandy's close are tailed the guy on the right bought his sht from jcpennys

>>41906410
... :(

>>41908249
>henry cavill
Cavill has a weak chin, a giant nose and an irredeemable hairline. Mentioning him in the same sentence as the others is blasphemy.

>>41902694
Oh wow Seinfelds black son is all grown up

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>>41907050
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>>41908249
without memes, im pretty sure that im at least 9/10 if not 10/10

>>41911764
Your nose is humongous

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>>41911764
have you ever, or would you ever suck a dick?

>>41911764
You're 6.3

>>41911764
Bruh, line up that combover

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>>41904095
>Don't bother going to the gym, just be tall.

>>41911764
>upper eyelid exposure
>hazel/brown eyes
>bad colouring
>big bulbous nose

not bad looking but you're more of a 6/10, potiental to be 7.5+ with rhino and squint game

>>41911764
pretty good but not 9/10 sorry mate, in my opinion and style i'd say close to a 7.5 tho

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>>41902694
Try again cucke :^)

>>41911764
>no memes
I realy doubt that you are not trolling

>>41911309
He doesn't have a weak chin, big noses look good in mens "smalls nose" is a thing for womens, and he used to have a good hairline

>>41912028
puberty

>>41911764
Please tell me that you put pomade in your hair when you go out

>>41911764
ehhh more like a 5.5/10 boyo

A 9/10 is like lachowski level.

>>41902694

Honestly, you can't compare a handsome and swathy southern european to a legit mongoloid-looking shitskin.

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>>41913501
Not according to normies

>>41913525
he is from england

David Gandy isn't a fair comparison, he's at the very top of male beauty, there are few men in the world that can compare or even come close.

>>41903847
KEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get this lookism bullshit of /fit/

>>41913990
like who?

>>41904368
This. Height, face or frame dont matter when you're autistic.

>>41913327
>He doesn't have a weak chin
It's very weak compared to his jaw. He has the same jawline/chin as Stefan Molyneux. It's like his bone structure gives up at the center of his face.

>big noses look good in mens "smalls nose" is a thing for womens
Keep telling yourself that, Shlomo.


>and he used to have a good hairline
Every bald or balding man used to have a good hairline. This is what it looks like now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaZhwaddrUM

Face it, Cavill is struggling to make 6/10.

>>41906521
This.

>>41906824
Not true at all. I know a family, 3 brothers, the middle one is irrelevant, big bro is like 5'2, 11/10 face, little bro is 6'3 with a really simillar face, he looks legit like a movie star. Want to know who gets more pussy? The midget. Because he tries to get pussy. The littler brother picks fights with pakistanies and gets hauled away by cops for violent offences... I've seen him get mired when he walks around, but he doesnt give a shit. He's weird af.

>>41911764

You from Croatia?

>>41911764
youre like 7-8 irl

all these closet homo lookism cucks lmao. just download gindr faggots

>>41911764

I don't get why /fit/ is so quick to put down anybody that posts on this board. I think it must be insecure people, like the tumblr whales that shit on hot women for looking "unhealthy" or whatever.

You're an attractive dude, the camera is autistically zoomed in so it's hard to tell what you would look like in real life but you definitely have a conventionally attractive face. Even if you're only 5'9", if you lift and go ottermode you should not have any problems getting girls.

In my opinion, there isn't 1 thing that tops all other attributes when it comes to getting girls. The key is you need several qualities, and each quality can be replaced. There's a list of things girls want at any given time:

- attractive face
- attractive body
- money
- status
- personality
- humor
- comfort
- mutual attraction
- fame
- stability
- height

The list goes on, but if you can meet at least three of those, in any particular order, you can get girls.

>>41914239
That's a good chin, is his jaw that give him that square face and not the v jawline most models have, brad pitt have a big jaw and a small chin but he still have the v jawline due to his jaw

Also big noses are a beautiful masculine trait, what it's matter it's the shape not the size

>>41911764
Not with that fucking nose dude

>>41911764
kek

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>>41914917
ever heard of lens distortion anon

>>41914902
Yes, good goyim spread the word.

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>>41903649
>Lain
.....get back to the basement depressed weaboo dwarf.

>>41912028
>jaw and nose job.....
Anything is possible with surgery.

>>41915020
d-does this work on mirrors too? please let me have small nose

>>41903696
this is the type of cancer that ruined /fa/. fuck you faggot

>>41915791
>/fa/
>anything to ruin

>>41915755
you would have to stand fucking far from a mirror to take a shot at 200mm

>>41903847
you likely have chadgabots inside your body right now

>>41915818
>/fit/
>opinions
>actually matter
lel

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>>41904095
>initial attraction is the only thing that matters

Why do ugly dudes on fit tend to overrate themselves?

I went on the incel subreddit and ugly normies we're posting pics of their faces and saying they are 8/10s. Then the incels called them out on their bullshit because the normies we're in fact 5/10s. This generation of normies is deluded.

>>41917518
Yeah that dude with the big schnoz who low-balled himself a 9/10, how fucking deluded are people. A 9/10 either male or female is probably doing some sort of modeling or has done that. They are as close as perfect that you can be without being so.

>>41911764
You're no where near 10/10 but you're above average. If you don't have the confidence, charm and personality to back it you're going to pull zero bitches.

Do a tinder test or online test to see how many matches you can get.

>>41917518
>I went on the incel subreddit

you should stay there

>>41905303
Perhaps he states
Face > Confidence > Height > Frame?

>>41904368
as long as you're at least 5'7 you can get girls with good personality

>>41904368
this. I don't get how people swallow the HIEGHT, FACE, FRAME pill so hard. we all know that short, bald, overweight, guy who fucks chicks left and right. If you don't personally know one then go to a mall or a park with heavy foot traffic and people watch for an hour you'll see multiple costanzas walking around with 10s

I think its cause people are always looking to blame forces outside of their control. Look inside. If you're not getting pussy it's because of you. You are at fault.

>>41903777
Please give me a fucking run down I'm clueless. There twitter is filled with weird mythology looking shit and all there pics are photoshopped to hell. Gay ass music vid too.

>>41919769
this. bigger slayer i know is a heavily underweight dude
he is geninely fun to be around and is confident

>>41919769
>>41920250
ask yourself if this guy would get more pussy with better facial aesthetics

>>41920664
>more pussy
pua shit is such a virgin mentality. He has a girl, what is he going to do with more pussy? Put his second dick in it? Guys who never got nothing wanna fuck everything. Trust me, you're wy better off having 1 chick who is sexy as loves you almost as much as she loves sucking dick. If he had better facial aesthetics could he get a girl who is a 9 or a 10 instead of an 8? Probably? That's subjective as hell anyway, and I bet the ten gives worse head and less frequently

thinking quantity>quality for pussy is just....it's just JUST

>>41920775
Sometimes quantity bro.

What's it's better:

Fucking your hand
Fucking one girl
threesome
foursome
fucking 5 girls, one sucking dick, two sucking balls

When it come to sex, i prefer five 5/10 girls than one 10/10 girl (this is just for sex)

But i'm asshole and you have a good point

>>41911818
upper eyelid exposure isnt bad, Toni Mahfud has a huge upper eyelid and hes more handsome than Gandy

>>41920879
......but five 5/10 girls are literally a hundred thousand times easier to get than one 10/10 girl

you've never been with more than one girl or with any girl over a 6, i think

This fucking board just full of angst and over analyzation of inadequacy

>>41904368
My theory is that women are attracted to a man with a large presence. Being tall is just a head start in creating a large presence. The 5'3" Puerto Rican Chad is "taller" than you, despite being literally a foot shorter than you, because he has created a large presence with his confidence.

>>41911764
Why is it always ethnics that are this delusional about their looks lmao. Slightly attractive? Sure. I rate you 5.5-6/10. Male model tier 9/10? LOL.

>>41921889
I agree he isn't a 9, but he ain't a 5-6 I think you have ridiculous standards.

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>>41921833
>because he has created a large presence with his confidence
This is actually what manlets and failed chads tell themselves to feel better. Holy fuck.

>>41921916
Yeah that's my theory based on his anecdotal evidence. Hate to break it to you but no amount of projecting is going to fix your body dysmorphia. Grow up and face your insecurities.

>>41921903
I said 5.5. He is above average. Nice chin and decent angularity, but his eyes are weak. Being even slightly above average in face is already a huge bonus. Its like being 6' vs being 5'9. He would pull with the right fashionmaxing and gymcelling based on looks alone.

>>41921916
Height creates confidence most of the time. If youre tall and didnt build up the confidence, youre not better than your own personal opinion of a manlet. It's all in the head.

>>41921889
>ethnics
What does that even mean, everyone has an ethnicity

>>41921941
A 5.5? have a (You)

>>41911764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwbqIlj-BiI

>>41915581
i still dont understand Lain. what the fuck was it even about

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>>41911764
Low self-awareness and narcissism don't go well together

>>41902882
there is no way to pull that vneck without looking like a tryhard faglord. He only gets away with it because he's is the male perfection

>>41903777

nobody (NOBODY) in cambridge actually dresses like this

>>41922911
Right look like a bald Gandy

>>41923008
This, v necks look bad, very bad, Gandy look good because beautiful people look good in everything, see Justin Bieber wearing shit and Brad Pitt as Tyler Durden

>>41922820
not helping the general consensus that /fit/ is the dumbest board

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFnJMPQow7A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVB3ypWVu14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0m_GVG3Oxo

Fucking gold

>>41911764
6, maybe 6,5 if you start looksmaxing. Your face is not wide enough, nose is a catastrophe, bug eyes, jaw isnt manly
nice eyebrows and brow ridge, but the long face kills it. You can get laid if you stop being autistic, but you will never slay very good looking women, sorry. Total lack of self-awareness, watch the videos >>41925083 posted if you want to know more about this (and need another reason to kys)

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>>41917518
Its called coping mechanism. Its a hard truth to swallow becoming aware that one isnt as good looking as one would like to be.
That and being oblivious to social dynamics.

Just start observing social circles: parties, in the metro, groups of friends at campus, at work. Who has an easy time befriending people, who gets accepted quickly into groups of strangers. Why is it that very good looking women are almost exclusively friends with other attractive girls? How often do you see model tier girls walking around with videos, fat girls? When was the last time you saw a disfigured guy with a group of Chads?
Dont believe what people post here, observe for yourself and come to a conclusion on your own. Beware though, there's no going back when you experience by yourself

>>41925210
wow...thanks for redpilling me anon.. truly opened my eyes..

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>>41925222
checkem

>>41925210
the real coping mechanism is you denying being autistic and not a plesant person to be around. just simply mentioning the word cope after all this makes you look like a tool

i see ugly/average dudes with hot girlfriend all the time. i also see ugly girls with hot girls hanging out. your entire post is nothing but a confirmation bias, you gonna look for attractive people hanging out with other attractive people and guess what? you gonna find them. ignoring the rest.
as for models chicks, im a makeup guy and if youre a serious model, your social circle (at least partly) will come from other models. because you work with them. stop overthinking things

>>41911764
You're a 6-7.

>>41925343
With every third male in the us being overweight you seriously think he is barely above average? (6)
Honestly, I give up, I accept that some of you are so autistic and cant be helped. I've been here for years but I'm done with this shit.

>>41925282
>you have to be incel to hold opinions like that
Beauty has been a powerful force since the dawn of man, you not wanting to see this has no bearing on reality. Judge for yourself, be observant and come to your own conclusions.
We are talking about general tendencies. The world isnt black and white and being ugly isnt necessarily the end of the world. But dismissing this all as a few poor souls being bitter they never got laid is equally simplistic and, frankly, will lead to a greater disappointment down the road
Many here have not come to experience the real world. Obviously, those will have a skewed world view from what they read on the internet. But if you actually take a closer look into the whole matter, you will see how profoundly evolutionary biology dictates our behavior

>>41925372
you sound like an autist who thinks he is enlightened. please tell me more about how the world works from your basement mate

>>41925390
Quite the opposite, im popular, have many friends, loving girlfriends and had sex with enough women to be able to view this from a different point of view. But I also have a likable face and got away with a lot of shit because of that, which I have been told repeatedly both by friends and strangers.
But that really isnt the point since anecdotal evidence of some guy on an American image board isnt worth a damn, and I cant be bothered to prove you right.
Again, observe and judge for yourself. How often do you see below average guys with legitimately hot girls?
When you meet new people, how do you and others react to them? Can you see differences between certain types of people? Are people more friendly and inviting to certain types?
Are some people outright dismissive even though they havent gotten to know the stranger yet?

Once you know about the theories (because thats all they are, theories) and apply them, you start noticing patterns. They may prove you right, or me. At the end, its up to you to make sense of the world

I think the most undistilled, pure, honest way to view this is to go backpacking off the beaten tracks and sleep in hostels. All alone, all strangers to each other, all with lots of things to talk about. Do some travelling, it broadens your perspective in a variety of ways

>>41925489
men you really do sound like a sperg

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>>41925556
guess the confidence crew won this round

>>41925364
Well I think of it like a bell curve, so that doesn't mean there are just as many 10's as there are 5's. I think he's about 6.5, as most others here have said.

6.5 isn't bad but he's not anything more than a 7 at best. He has too many glaringly bad features (like dat nose) and nothing that's particularly good. It's reasonably well put together and importantly it doesn't look WEAK but it still isn't good looking. If he didn't have those faults (say he fixed his nose), I would say he was a 7.5. You can't get to 8 and above without having features that are particularly attractive, as well as having only very few minor flaws.

If you are an 8, you know.

>>41903777
These guys look like nerds i would bully

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Anyone else here /made it/?

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>>41925777
>trips
>that pic

>>41925777
Post profile or gtfo

>>41925580
Stop posting my fucking picture you cunts. I bet none of you have actually seen the ABC documentary.

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>>41925809
:^)

>>41926165
>asphalt paving technician
>pompey uni
She is classless scum m80

>>41925816
sauce on documentary?

>>41926165
tell her to learn how to do her brows
fucking disgusting

>>41926165
i guarantee you she is ugly as fuck under all that makeup

>>41926227
>>41926271
>>41926313
Jesus Christ, you y'all so jelly? Be fucking happy for him.

>>41926165
she looks like a fat chick who knows how to use angles. Notice how she never has her torso in the pics

>>41926361
guy is acting tough and trying to brag about some below average thot

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>>41917518

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>>41926401

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>>41926401
>>41917518
>>41926412

>>41926378
So fucking what? He scores, you don't (I assume, because of the jell).

>>41926401
>>41926412
omg I can't even tell gender

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>>41926427

>>41902694
Err, the only thing you can't change is height.

Face can be fixed with surgery. Frame is a shitty excuse for poor training.

Learn to do this bait properly before you embarrass yourself again.

>>41926427
This is funny, give more.

Girl at the top would probably look nice with -20 lbs, a pretty hairstyle and full out makeup with contouring.

>>41926432
im happy when people make it but i hate humblebragging autists

>>41925163
this is a Gandy + Jordan Barrett + Lachowski?

>>41904095
oh boy. it's the post replying to everyone in the thread noone asked for

>>41926427
I'm confused. The first four are deluded, but the bottom two men are actually attractive.