Running Thread

>>41901478
Is running as bad as they say on the knees?

>>41901478
would running help me have a single "healthy" bowel movement a day?

>>41901483
probably if youre very heavy and sedentary

bout to start running on trails in the mountains

its been raining tho cant get my kicks muddy

How do I stop getting shin splints when I run trail? I've got a nice pair of shoes and didn't have a single problem when I ran on treadmills, is my form just shit?

>>41901524
What is your diet like?

Running and yoga has helped me form lovely big shits that i do first thing on a morning. Don't have to think about it for the rest of the day.

>>41901579
Probably a form problem. How do you land on your feet/ run when coming down hill?

>>41901483
Don't overdo it and try not to run on cement. You can tell if it feels right or not.

>>41901579
Don't push yourself as much as you would on a treadmill. Give it a couple weeks and your footing will improve.

I need to buy new shoes, what brands are recommended? I've been using a pair of nikes but I've heard their running shoes aren't that great.

>>41901590
On the ball of my foot mostly, should I be landing with a flat foot?

>>41901579
Is it muscle or bone pain? If it's muscle, get a foam roller and smooth that shit out before every run. In fact, roll out your whole legs and you'll feel great

How to avoid getting blisters from the heat under my feet? I can only rarely run trail, so mostly asphalt etc. I'm running on Vibrams.

>>41901601
Find a store near you that lets you jog outside or on the treadmill. Try out a bunch of options. Everybody is different and fits best with different brands

do u guys use any smartwatch?
What smartwatch do you use?

>>41901610
Try shifting a little forward onto your mid-foot and try to 'absorb' the impact of landing with your entire leg.

Here's a vid that may be of some help.

https://youtu.be/FcBlGb0qgS8

>>41901627
Get a real shoe.

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>>41901637
Stop being a faggit.

>>41901483
I've started running 2 months ago. It was more kinda interval training. Started from 1min of jogging and 4min of fast paced walking. Did that 8 times in one cardio session. My weight was 104kg and I havent had any issues other than my calves hurting as fuck due to living sedentary life for like last 4 years.
Keep your form in check - midfoot strike, it will engage your muscles more than joints so you will have to go through the initial phase of calves pain.
Keep your shoes in check - you can get good running shoes really cheap. You need some with stabilisation and enough place for your toes.
DONT FUCKING OVERDO IT. Just dont. Start easy and make your way up from there. Listen to your body, dont overtrain.

>>41901478
Just ran my first 10k yesterday with my dad. He run's ultras so I felt bad slowing him down but he showed me a nice route around this area. Think I'm going to run a half marathon next year but desu I reckon I could do one in a few months fairly easily.

>>41901637
I use one from Polar. They're pretty good to track your progression imo.

Running programs for an "Advanced novice"? I've done C25k and can run a 5k without stopping (slow af though). What should my next step be for increasing my endurance and getting faster? My goal for right now is a sub 45 minute 10k eventually.

>>41901478
are minimalist shoes with no padding a meme?

>>41901732

>metal band

>>41901637

Get the casio with the default rubber(?) band but replace the band with a NATO watch strap. You now have an endurable watch and endurable band that together will last for many years and together cost less than £15.

>>41901637

Garmin Forerunner 235. I replaced a Fitbit Charge 2. Got a refub off Amazon for $200. Only had it for 2 weeks now but I am pretty happy with it.

I had tons of problems with the Fitbit GPS and miss calculation of mileage and speed. The Garmin is way more accurate.

>>41902317

depends

if you wanna buy them to be like a tarahumara dirt farmer or you wanna call yourself barefoot gary, then yeah. if you think they are neat, then go for it. from experience, i used to wear clunky asics and mizunos with stupid amounts of padding. since then i got some minimalist shoes and now i run in vapor gloves. i would never ever go back to regular shoes. they are just so clunky

the only downside to minimalist shoes is you start using your calves more and for a while, calves will feel it the next day

>>41902317
I dunno. What's the meme supposed to be? Probably the new hot shit in town?

I've been running minimalist for a year now due to running like a retard from all the padding in regular shoes.

Took me like a month of short runs to get used to it, with my calves screaming murder. It takes perseverance to pull that off, from going half marathon to fucking dying from 2k.

It's not like some holy grail. you hate it or you love it, no middle road.

>>41901478
>That pic
FUCK lad, making me so nostalgic. Why did I ever move away from the mountains?

Trail running is comfiest. Nothing like just jogging for miles outdoors. It's like really fast hiking. Also shoes are a meme, don't overpay for special bullshit. Target running shoes are gonna preform the same as high end Brooks, as long as you don't have extremely fucked up feet.

>>41901478
>end of 4 mile run
>hands get numb and get tunnel vision
This will just go away right?

>>41903641

buy bigger shoes

>>41903648
My shoes are fine and .5 bigger and it starts to slip on the ankles

>>41903676

BIGGER shoes anon

One more week and I'll be tapering for my marathon. Has anyone run sf before? I'm worried about the hills.

>>41901483
>Is the only physical thing that humans excel at bad for humans?

What's the temp cutoff for running shirtless?

>>41901478
Cardio routines
>monday 4 mile: 7.5 min pace
>Wednesday 6 mile: 9 min pace
>Friday 3 mile: 6 min pace

>>41903773
No need to get snarky, he's not trying to make a point, seems genuinely interested.

>>41904429
just run shirtless

>>41902281
same situation

>>41904598
how do you pace yourself? I've been working on it, but get winded on longer runs

>>41904429
>>41904676
this. I spend most of the time shirtless and get lots of mires, could just be that everyone is autistic in the city, who knows

Is running a good way to cut weight? Also, how can I minimize back pain while running?

>>41903641
Hands getting numb is is lack of oxygenation in the blood cause ur working so hard. It should get better as u become more fit and vo2 max improves

What underwear can I buy for running if I have a sensitive dick? Preferably not online.

who else has IBS here ? (Irritable bowel syndrome)

I fucking love running and I've been running for years, I have a decent cardio but whenever I try going over the 1h15 mark (low intensity) or 50 mins mark at a higher speed I get terrible stomach pains and an urge to shit

Ive read online that IBS can cause this when running
could it be dehydratation ?

>>41901483
Only if you do it wrong. Run on grass or sand this reduces shock considerably. You should be running on the balls of your feet not heel striking.

>>41901601
I have Nike flyknit racers for race day (shit for long distance training runs) and they are excellent. Fir normal running asics gel nimbus or any Adidas boost are great

>>41903328
Plus 1 for forerunner 235

Couch 2 5k has been lots of fun. Getting ready to go to my first 5k. How do I look really cool? And not autistic

>>41905738
Go to a yoga class once a week to work on flexibility and core strength or create a plank/leg raise routine to strengthen your core.

Make sure you work in some back decompression exercises as well.

>>41902126
10k to half is easy, half to marathon is the big shock to the system

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>Be a runner
>Running 1.5 miles in 9:00, 5 miles in 38
>Fuck up ankle
Pic related is me right after
>Today ran 1.5 in 8:45 and ran 5 in 34 yesterday

We're all going to make it brahs

>>41905889
keto

>>41902281
Current weight? Do you need to lose anything. Sub 45 is great normie tier pace (my 10k is 33.36) but very achievable. Don't just train distance and same pace. Have 1 session a week tempo or speed (on track if you can) and one session hill sprints with a few normal distance runs in there. Aim for 4 to 5 sessions a week, clocking 30 to 40miles a week

200 pounds is way too fat to start running, right? I should just use a stationary bike until I am at a non-overweight BMI?

>>41902317
>>>41901478 (OP)
>are minimalist shoes with no padding a meme?
Depends on form and how heavy a runner you are. Light with perfect form and you will not believe how much more fun it is, if not you're in for a world of calf injuries

>>41906080
Unless you don't like the concept of having working healthy knees don't run if you're fat

Did 4.5 miles first untrained run
Feel like a sack of dicks now

>>41906071
6'7 230 ish. Down from 300 last year. Still have a ways to go but my goal is to be able to take my shirt off for the first time in my life next summer.

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>Run on treadmill easy 30 min at 9 or 10 pace
>Run outside gass after 8 min

bruh wtf

>>41905953
My feet have no balls tho

>>41906686
Treadmills are easier than running outside. Put it at a level 3 incline if you want to simulate the difficulty of running outside

>>41906790
>level 3 incline
is this legit?

>>41901478
starting routinely running a month ago, my last 3.3 mile run time was 24:07, avg speed 8.21 mph.

How good is this, what is respectable, and how long will it take me to get there? Because I have no idea honestly.

>>41906800
>is this legit

I mean yeah kinda.

When you are running outside you have have propel yourself forward. When running on a treadmill you stay still and the treadmill propels your feet backwards. By giving an incline you now have to propel yourself upward. Seems logical to me.

>>41901478
>3 pairs of running shoes
>each different types
>run on soft grass
>stretch legs daily
>shin splints constantly
>when will this hell end

>>41906790
for me treadmills are harder than road. but that might be because treadmills are just so fucking boring to me

>>41906080
>200 pounds is way too fat to start running, right?
You could be 6'5" or 5'5"

>>41907340
I enjoy treadmills more since I can focus on a podcast or audiobook without worry

Averaging 6.5K per run, was going to try and get 8 in tonight but it's supposed to rain all evening

>>41901637
Garmin 15

>>41903641
Drink more water. When I run, especially on workouts I lose feeling in my forearms bc im dehydrated

>tfw only run and barely lift
>rarely ever any running thread on /fit/
I just want to talk about running bros

Is a 17.9mph top speed sprint good for someone who spends like a 10:1 ratio lifting to running? I spent ~3 weeks doing nothing but cardio and running 5ks to practice for a 5k race, and at the last 50yards or so I sprinted in and reached that speed.

>>41906071
More details on tempo, speed, and hill workouts?

>>41905070
Run with friends, if you're competitive you won't bitch out hahaha

>>41909182
Thats very good

>>41909199
Not him but simple tempo intervals like 3x4min or something similar. To start total tempo time should be like 10-15 mins. Then if you want to progress raise the total time to like 20 min (so like 4x5 or 2x10). Try to mix up interval lengths. Usuall half time recovery is good for those. As for hills it depends a lot on the size and gradient of hill. Just find a big hill and mix in some tempo intervals up the whole thing, and some sprints (10-15 seconds)

>move to florida cause military
>join a running club that ends at a local brewery
>everyone thats part of the running group gets a free beer at the end of the 5k
>have to move back to california
>miss my running group

what's the hardest week of c25k? I'm just about to finish week 4 and it has been difficult. Week 5 is going to be the worst, huh?

>>41905070
it depends on how long you're intending to run. if youre new to longer distances, id recommend just going slow, pretty much as slow as you possibly can in order to still even call it running. when i start long runs, i like to run at 3-5mph to start, and gradually get faster and faster. i'll generally go to about 8-9mph about 30 minutes and usually be going about 10-11mph at my last mile.

Is Couch to 5k a good place to start ?

>>41901483
Depends. Uphill is better than downhill on the knees. Run on dirt or rubber over cement. Don't overdo it if you're just starting out. Try to run with your muscles instead of your bones, so like minimize impact.

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>>41901592
>>41905953
>don't run on concrete

i'm fucked

What would be the best form and posture for speed, I have one month to train a 10 minute mile and a half can I do it? My miles at 17:39 right now.

when i run too often my balls kinda hurt but it usually goes away with some stretching? what could be that cause of this?

Well I currently fucking suck at running. I only have one lung after a bout with cancer a few years ago.

Anyway, I've decided that I want to train for a marathon. I might not win, and it may take me a year to do it, but I'm gonna try.

Any advice for noob marathon runners?

>>41909658

So you're training for a 1.5 mile run. Your 1 mile time is over 17 minutes? Or your 1.5 mile is that long?

>>41909658
Holy fuck your slow, anyways don't carry or drink water when you run. Run somewhere with landmarks so you subconsciously push yourself, and put in some fucking effort. Also how much do you weigh?

>>41906042
Better than me. I rolled mine fucking mowing the lawn kek.

I keep getting headaches after I run. I can't imagine that's it's due to dehydration seeing as I drank nearly two gallons of water total today. I eat a meal when I finish to try and replace electrolytes, especially sodium. What could it be?

>>41910339
Not breathing enough, when your done stand up straight or lie down and rest for a couple minutes.

>>41910195
Its my mile

>>41910220
Im still a fat ass after eighty pounds lost, im at 198 and im trying to lose 28 more then ill be hunky dory. I use to be able to do better but then I got hospitalized and it killed my gains.

>>41910353
I'll give it a shot, thanks.

>>41906633
You are doing great, for every kg lost you shave around 2 secs per km off your just by increasing your vo2 max (oxygen not struggling to feed your mass as much) and being lighter. Keep going you're gonna smash it

>>41906843
Sub 25min 5k is great for the small amount of time you've been running

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>15k 3 times a week
>half marathon later today, or rather tonight
>Preferably trail, but today asphalt
>Chicken tits and greens
>Asics something fancy, they where sponsored so idk comfy as fuck but also ugly as a turtle dick

Wish me luck

>>41909631
buy good shoes and you're good. You're just looking for excuses to stay fat. Anyway, fast walk is almost just as good and has no risks. It's the distance that counts.

>>41906858
Lmao this is so wrong.

It is literally the same, just a different reference frame. Only difference is the air is stationary in the surface's frame when running outside, and the the air is stationary in your frame when running on treadmill. So there is no wind resistance which makes a big difference.

In my previous session my right calve started to hurt every time i landed with my right feet. Is my form at fault here?

>>41905889
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/apt.14157/full
this happens to most people after a certain timeframe, maybe you are just a bit more prone to it

>>41911075
same here
shoe seller told me i have a problem with overpronation and my right foot is slightly larger than left, idk if that has anything to do with it though

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>>41901478

Why do you run? Literally any sport is more interesting than running. I just can't see the point unless you're so spergy that the though of having to workout with other people in a sport is paralysing to you.

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Just did this this morning

>>41903773
What about cycling? Can any animal beat humans at cycling?

And I guess humans are pretty good at swimming too (compared to other forms of life that don't spend a big part of their life in water)

>>41911135
Eh, it's more interesting then lifting a bar above your head. Also yes I'm am king of the spergs, none of my hobbies involve other people except boxing.

>>41911349
it isn't more interesting though
>Hey girl, i can lift you over my head
>Hey girl, i can beat you in a race!!! :))

>>41911135
>One of the best activities for cardio.
>Can do it in nature
>Runner's high

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>>41901627
>Vibrams
How does it feel to know you fell for the minimalist meme?

>>41911360
Not everything is about getting pussy and there's no reason you can lift and run. The combination makes for fun long sec sessions anyway.

>>41903641
Slow the fuck down. You do not got to go fast every single run.

>>41903756
Have you been doing hill repeats? Then you will have no problem. The only people who are scared of hills are usually city people. When I ran Pittsburgh back in May, you can tell the faggots who were babied by running on flats. The hills I run up go up for way longer distances and grade, yet just about everyone was complaining that "Oakland hill has no business being on the course".

>>41910339
Two gallons? Sounds more like hyponatremia to me.

>>41906080
Nope, im 200 and am gearing up for a 10k in a couple weeks.

Granted ive been going slow as fuck since around January to get my body acclimated, its harder if youre heavier but just take your time. Start with long walks, then slowly build up from that. Focus on good form and pace and you'll do fine

My jump rope died on me. I've been doing the 15m pacer test in my back yard. It gets my heart racing.

I'm looking for my first pair of running shoes. I ordered some in my size and they were way too tight, I could barely put them on.

I tried a half step up at a shoe store, but they still felt a bit tight. Is it normal for running shoes to run quite so small?

what are you running from anons

>>41911515
Nothing. I'm terrified of nothing.

>>41911515
From you. Running from you makes a great tempo workout.

>>41910176
Galloway method.

>>41901478
i can consistently run 5k's between 19 and 21 minutes, my 10km record is 38m55s, although i usually run it in 41-44 minutes in training depending on how much energy i have.
my marathon reccord is 3h 22minutes, and i cosistently run 42 km in 3h 25minutes or less.
Would a sub 3h marathon be possible? How do i set a realistic goal? i want to get as good as possible

>>41911515
Heart disease

>mfw could run 10 km/day at 20 without break
>stopped running
>got fat
Just started to run again 2 months ago and Im still struggling to slowly run for 30 minutes. Ageing is shit.

I ran in the thunderstorm this morning and it was really nice and my nipples didn't hurt. 10/10.

>>41912830
>stopped running
>got fat
You can't really blame ageing
If you stay injury-free you can run for the rest of your life

>>41912854
That's a great way to die anon.

Any tips for running on cement? I got nothing else.

>>41911515
My parents t b h

Threadly reminder to join autism
https://www.strava.com/clubs/fitizens

>>41913002
Ye, I know it's my fault
Getting back in form is just so much harder now.

>>41901579
stop overpronation of the foot.

>>41901483
perfect your midfoot strike, engage your calves properly, and increase your cadence

buy minimalist shoes and start off with small distances

>>41901637
get nike+ on your phone or just a cheap digital watch

I have a charity marathon next week and now I got fucking sick. I can't train like this. Will I still make it?

>>41909167
so, do so

>>41911515
I'm running towards something.

>>41909658
Is a mile 1,6 km?
If so, damn, guess I'm not that bad after all.
It's doable bro, just keep on grindin'

>>41911515
constant dread and hopelesness
Sometimes druggies, also

Does anyone else feel their capabilites dramatically fall in the summer?

If there's even a bit of sun left when I go running now I find it hard to get past 60% of my usual mileage. So now I have to wait till like 8:30-9PM, which is sometimes late for me.

>>41914091
Ye, I feel like I can run forever during winter.

>>41914158
I miss that feeling :(
Took it for granted

>>41914158
>summer is 25C
>winter is -20C
>only couple of months of good running weather a year
Please end me now

best light shoes for speed and knee health? i run mostly in mountains and forrests. on asphalt or pavement my knees just hurt alot..

also best exercises for jumpers knee?
i allrdy do squats and lunges, sit in deep squat alot too.

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>>41901478
>Flat feet
>overpronation up the ass
>running with chucks
>Can barely stand due to pain in calves

>>41914520
bet you could even run with chucks if you got decent insoles

>>41910339
>as I drank nearly two gallons of water total today

That's not good for you.

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>>41911135
>>41911360

>hey girl come join me in this sweaty BO filled gym playing shitty music with other sweaty meathead narcissists who'll be staring at you out of the corner of their eyes tonight!

>hey girl, why not go for a run with me later tonight through this beautiful outdoor route under the moonlight

>>41914787
> hey girl run.

>>41911360
>He hasn't taken a girl out for a run

>>41913343
>https://www.strava.com/clubs/fitizens
joined, was going to start using this instead of mapmyrun anyway

>>41914848
Depends on her fitness tho. I once tried to motivate a chubby colleague of mine to start running.

But running with non-fit beginners fucking blows

>tfw no longer in prime

The worst part of running is that its measurable of how good you used to be. I used to break 5 minutes on a mile, I used to break 6 minutes on mile intervals. Now I'm running a 7 and it makes me sad

I've made it before but can I make it again anons?

>>41914787
Hiking is the superior activity. Running with a girl sucks because either you've gotta slow down a lot for her to keep up, and it's boring, or she can keep up with you, or worse, beat you, and that's embarrassing.

>>41915007
>tfw can't hike because of albinism
Damn the sun

Studs VS regular shoes for running on grass? Got studs recently and can't tell if it's worth getting used to them.

alright I could use some advice here for running.

I'm 6'1" male weight 245 last time I checked (2yrs ago).got a stomach.
applied for C.A.F so tried to get into shape and for 2-3 months I ran on cement and at the end I could do a 10 min jog but I don't think I lost weight.i also did a basic workout, push ups and sit ups etc.

SO I stopped working out for over a month and know I need to start running again.so what's the best way for a new running to get into it?

What are some good running apps for android?

>>41915456
lol are you running in soccer cleats or something? you should be doing your training runs in trainers and your races in racing flats(road) or spikes(xc or track)

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>>41915739
I'm in a pretty similar situation. To run a long distance you must run a long time. Go for C25k, it's stupid proof.

>>41915007
trail running is the most primal sport, nothing more natural than running through the mountains or woods

I went from nothing at all to doing 10k twice a week last year in about 7 weeks. Let it all slide and now I'm supposed to be training for an actual 10k race but I've got the fucking shingles.

>>41911304
that's acceptable, i have been running for only 6 months seriously (3-4 times a week, sometimes even 5) and can do 4,50 mins per km on my 5k's now. keep training and pushing yourself!

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Doing the Hal Higdon Novice 1 for half-marathon.
I think it's going as well as it can,but I wish I could have a running partner and be faster.
Need to figure out how to open up my stride without going faster, because my lungs are tiring out before my legs are. Oh, I'm 6'5, 220, so I have long legs, I've just been couchpotatoing since highschool.
I also have a bit of an incremental sprint that I do for the last 100-200 yards, that I really open up for, but as is, it's a bit unsustainable.
Should I be trying to keep this 8~ minute mile pace for the eventual half/full marathons that I plan on running, or should I be trying to get them lower?

>>41916926
Probably should have mentioned that those decimals are just fractional seconds. That 9.58 on B1 was 9 minute 34 second pace.
>JCDecaux FITS

>>41915961
Strava, you can log cycling as well and you are able to 'compete' with people in your area for best times on segments of the run.

>>41913343
Some fucking fit people on this thing.

>>41917129
>The first month's on us!
I hate fitness tracker apps so much.

>could run 3-5ks daily depending on tiredness level
>stop for a few months due to lack of time
>can't run now without getting heel pain anymore

like what the fuck

no shin splints no other leg pain but my heels like a motherfucker

>>41917317
Just run on your toes, numbskull.

>Ran a 5K on a whim today
>Cooled down, sat at my desk
>Can't stand up properly, posterior knee pain
Fuck, what did I do? I've never had a running related injury before.

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i just finished my first half marathon, all the advices from 4chan played a great deal.

I must say.. thanks /fit/!

>>41917530
What was your time?

>>41917537
3:06:16

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>>41917537
Nothing amazing, i fucked up the registration so i was starting almost at the end ( like literaly walking first 2,5 km)

I had 2:01 total time, 5:50 AVG pace

it was roughly 25 degrees and im recovered fatty+smoker

pls no bully

Current 10k time is 42:00. Read a book and am following the routine to increase my weekly mileage from about 15 miles per week to 30 miles per week in a few weeks. Afterward I will run their routine to increase my 10k time.

Aiming for 36:00 10k in a few months from now.

>>41917335
run on toes

how?

im a pretty heavy dude

>>41917665
It was a joke, I'm being an ass.

>>41917576
The hot girl that I saw on facebook that inspired me to start running did it in 1:48. Do better for her next time, anon. I know you can do it.

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>>41901478
Can I still run if I got a blister from shitty shoes or is it going to hurt like shit ?
Anyone got some exp with this?

>>41917825
Put a bandaid and some tape over it, and you'll be fine.
Once you're done running take off the bandaid, put some neosporin on it, and you'll be good to go. Air is the best thing for it.
If you think it'll be too much, take a day off.

>>41909658
Run upright, no slouching. Try to land on the middle of your foot. Keep your shoulders and hands relaxed. Honestly for a mile form won't get you very far. You just have a lot of training to do bc your slow as fuck.

>>41901627
Go at night when the asphalt is colder if you want to keep using your meme shoes.

>>41906099

It's not like he's going to be running sprints. All my running has been over 200lbs and I'm still running 5ks in the high teens at 35.

>>41905846
Running shorts and nothing under that. If it's too cold for running shorts I can't really help. Compression shorts maybe?

>>41901555
Shoes get dirty eventually just put them through the washer anyhow

Does anyone else have issues with self doubt or getting themselves in the right mental mindset while running? I know I'm physically capable of going for a full 5k without stopping but when I'm actually in the moment, my mind keeps telling me to stop and take a break. How do I train myself mentally?

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>>41901478
Greentext of my run yesterday
>run through a field, everything is peaceful and chill
>pass few fruit trees
>hear some birds crying out
>look up
>see two hawks or sth like that
>don't think much about it, besides that they look pretty cool
>suddenly, one of them comes diving down and attacks me from the back
>didn't see him, so it was unexpected and scared me shitless
>proceed running, thinking they'll leave me alone if the see me leaving their territory
>nope, they keep circling above me, crying and diving down when they're behind me
>start running faster
>they keep attacking, slightly scratching the back of my head
>hide under some low tree, to think about what I should do
>these shits have good eyes, so they see me through the tree
>they keep circling and crying, looking at me through the branches
>catch my breath and start sprinting from tree to tree - every time I'm in the open and too slow they attack from the sides
>eventually make it to some bigger trees, hear some crows
>notice they finally left
Probably the most exciting run I ever had.
Have any of you ever been attacked by birds of prey while running?

>pic semi-related

>>41918616
When you have those thoughts, just slow down. You don't need to walk to regain your breath. You should also work on better pacing earlier in your run.
>>41918697
>pic
The rain may never fall till after sundown
By 9 pm, the moon light must appear
In short, there's simply not a more congenial spot
For happily ever after in than here in Midland:Midland

>>41905738
If you only want faster weight loss, you could probably burn more calories by riding a bike, since you probably can't run that long that often at your current fitness level.
If you just like running or don't have good bike paths where you live, then I'd say running is still a pretty good form of exercise when losing weight.

>>41905953
>Run on sand
Hell no I don't want to dig a hole to China, even if it gives 10,000 year old oak tree thick legs.

>>41907411
I'm back gonna run as soon as I get off work, gonna aim for 5 miles, should be a good evening

Should I post my results when I'm done

>>41911515
Myself.

>>41911515
This sounds like a line from Bojack.

>>41901478

Does anyone here use running apps? And if so, which ones?

College 400m Hurdle specialist here.
i usually compete in anything 200m-800m, relays and 110mH. I'm competing with a few of our returners in XC in the fall just so we can train since track season only has 7 weeks to work out in fall semester. So now i get a full year round work out and start in august.

ask questions if you want ill check back periodically. (-: Im glad to see running threads to keep coming up.

>>41919893
I use runkeeper it's not bad, it even keeps track of PRs

>>41918616
what>>41918993 said. Walking or stopping at all (unless you REALLY need to) is bad. Once you do it once on a run its so hard to not only start again, but to not stop again. I remember my first marathon I stopped to walk for just a bit and ended up stopping like 10 more times when I really didn't need to.

>>41905953
>run on sand
t. retard
do NOT run on sand

>>41920330
It's funny, today on my run (which wasn't even particularly difficult and I didn't have any trouble with) I was thinking of the old historical African hunters that would chase gazelle and whatnot down.
It's kind of weird, but I found a bit of a boost after that. Maybe it was just going into monkey-lizard brain mode and had me stop thinking about my legs or my breath.

>>41920369
Thinking about yourself running faster really makes a difference. When I was in college I ran track and I remember on runs I would envision myself running a PR or winning nationals. Those runs I would end up running way faster than normal. Sometimes this isn't good, but it usually is.

>>41920405
Most of it seems to just be distracting your brain with something else. If you're constantly thinking about how much that stitch in your side is hurting, or how your lungs and legs are burning for more oxygen, you're gonna feel it real bad.
Put your body in auto pilot, and think about solutions to your other problems.

>>41901478
Did 8Km in 43 minutes

I'm gonna make it right guys?

>>41920907
>>41920907
Depends on what your goals are.

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How do I stop hitting my heel on the ground so hard? I know I'm doing it wrong but whenever I consciously try to stop it just goes right back. Also is running on toes a meme?

>>41921001
Just keep doing what you're doing, but do it better.
If you can hear your feet slapping the ground, you're doing it wrong.

>>41921001
Keep consciously fixing it. Eventually it will become automatic.

>>41920983
10k in under 50 minutes

What are shin splints and how do i stop it? Its stopping me from being able to run several days in a row. Most I can do is 2 days in a row and im not at my best the second day

>>41901555
Running in rain ia my favorite thing to do

>>41921001
Try running up hills and leaning forward when you're running on flats.

>>41911324
The human body was designed for running.
Cycling was designed for the human body.

>>41905889
Have you been diagnosed with IBS? If not, it's just runner's diarrhea and your body will get used to it eventually. Your body's blood goes to the extremeties and away from the GI, so you get the urge to shit.

If you have been diagnosed, I'm no help to you

I tried interval sprints first time for 60m x 10 then 100m x10.
During 60m ones when I was on my 3rd sprint my arm beneath the shudder started hurting, on 5th-6th middle of my upper back and on last few it felt like my kidneys were giving out.

Then when I did 100m few days later non of those spots hurt but instead after 4-5th sprint it felt like someone stuck a knifes in my quads and my entire core hurt. Both were hurting more and more progressively. On 10th sprint I felt like I made my core cramping, but only during the run it self when I stop it let go.

Is this normal, maybe I'm doing something wrong?

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>>41906686
Opposite for me. I get bored ouf of my mind on treadmill.

I have to be outside. Music is too distracting. Not a lot of people run in town but when I see another runner I always get more energy.

>>41901637
Garmin 935

>>41916837
Thanks, i will keep training, this was the 8th time i ran , before i was very sedentary but not fat, would only do pushu ps.

whats the best way to build up running stamina for a complete beginner?

Just did a 5k for the first time in ages. Loads of hills around here so it's fucking horrible

>>41911324
You think you're smarter than you are.

>>41923177
Running.
C25K is fool proof

>>41916152
Yeah basically soccer cleats. Plastic studs designed for grass or astroturf. Sister bought them for me knowing I was starting to run on grass. Dad let slip they were expensive. Didn't notice much difference between them and trainers after a few runs. Should I just go back to regular runners?

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SO IS RUNNING ON SAND ACTUALLY REALLY BAD FOR YOU OR WHAT?

>>41923575
Yes, try walking more then 2km on a beach and you'll see why. Shits worse then concrete.

>>41923597
>/fit/ doesn't like long walks on the beach

>>41922427
>$500 watch to run
No thanks

>>41923575
it's not bad it's just very difficult.

lol like what is even the point of a 2k run like lol what the fuck is that even like lol kek lol

I run in a nature park and now all these people tha t are shirtless keep turning up and it's always guys and it makes me mad keep your shirt on it's not that hot only 30C.

>>41901478
I wanna start running but I'm about 220lbs

Should I wait until I'm >200?

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>>41924121
>ebin rage xDD

>>41924144
Just run you fat fuck. You think your knees aren't already used to carrying around way more shit than they should? It's your heart that's going to bitch the most about it.

Do c25k and you'll see. You'll get thinner faster, healthier faster and no you will not fuck up muh knees.

Stop waiting for excuses and being a pussy and just do the shit. It's a run it's not fucking fighting a bear.

>>41923575
No, it's probably the best but most strenuous running platform out there

>>41901478
Anyone else prefers to run without shoes?

>>41901601
My MMA coach goes running in nature all of the time and he said he once bought north face running shoes on a whim and that they were the best shoes he ever had for running

>>41924250
Probably paid to say that and says that to everyone.

>>41924255
>be an unknown MMA coach in buttfuck nowhere in the middle east
>Get paid to advertise a multi million brand to your 20 students

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Is it possible to git gud while running once a week? I'm mostrly doing it for fun, but I want to get a 3k under 10 minutes. I train 4 times a week already. Pic related.

>>41924334
No shit how do you think they got so big?

>>41924347
Sub 10min 3k is pretty fast
I'd say very difficult if not impossible with running only once a week and doing no other cardio

Who /morningrun/ here?
Just had 4.13 miles at 35,40 which isn't too bad considering all the wind out today. I need to start running in a forest or something to reduce the corridor wind.
>>41924144
I'm 220 and have no problems running. I'm 6'5 though, so I'm not a complete lard ass.

>>41924480
What is a decent time for 3k? Also, can yo useggest some sort of training I can do once a week?

>>41924559
6 minutes

>>41915004
I believe in you anon; your prime is relative. Seriously, look up Pablo Vigil (I actually got to run with him a bit). The guy is in his 60's and still running/looking great!

>>41901732
this post best post

>>41924559
>once a week
If I were you I would start running for a few weeks till you get an idea for how far you can run you can and add a mile to that every 4 weeks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnEI8MPVOas

>>41924574
that 2 minutes per K the world record for a single K is 2:11.96

>>41924559
10 min 3k is like 5:15/mi pace. At that point you're going to be focussing on conditioning a few times per week (read: uphill sprint repeats). Sub 10mins time is gonna start being benefitted by speed work too; you need to look like a sprinter to run fast efficiently.

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How are running gels regarded here? Necessary supplement or meme? I'm training for a marathon. From what distance should I start taking these, if at all? Also what do you guys do for water on a ~30km run? Take a bottle or pre-hydrate?

I ran a half marathon before without any of those things during training. I had some gels during the race since they were handing them out for free but I unsure if it did anything.

>>41918697
I haven't ever gotten attacked, but I have had a few follow/circle me for a whole run.

>>41924734
I could run 2k in two minutes easy.

>>41918697
>birds of prey while running


Are geese birds of prey? Because it's smmer now and on my route there are a flock or a gaggle whatever of geese and these faggot birds almost always want to start some shit and I guess because there are like 50 they get all brave and shit too I hate these fucking birds so much they block the entire footpath and start screeching in their asshole voices like they own the shit I swear to god one of these days they'll learn not to fuck with me when I come with the baseball bat.

Fuck geese.

>>41924788
If you're running a marathon your glycogen stores are gonna be depleted way before you finish. This will result in lower blood sugar, which means decreased performance. Having a sports drink will give you those necessairy sugars, fluid and salt. It's almost impossible to drink enough of these while running to supply sufficient sugar, which is where these gels come in handy. However, do not take too many, because you will get diarrhea.
Also, pre-hydrating would only work for about an hour (depending on temperature and humidity), any longer than that will leave you dehydrated, regardless of how much you drink before. Running on a full blatter is a pain in the ass as well.

>>41924806
I cant tell if your trolling or retarded GOOD JOB
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1000_metres_world_record_progression

>>41924904
Thanks for the info. What is a guideline on how many of these things you should take? Like 1 every 10k?

>>41911515
I'm holding onto the idea that maybe if I get a good physique, I'll begin to love myself.

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Given how running tends to chew up shoes, what are some good cheapie shoes that function correctly? Was looking at some Puma Propels for $30, but I'd like feedback and tips.

>>41924964
Well, you need about 90g of sugar per hour when you're doing 3+ hours of continious running. You should try to get 2/3 of that from Gatorade and the rest from gels. I have no idea how much is in one of these packets, just try to get 30g of sugar from gels and 60g from Gatorade (comes down to about a quart I think) per hour.

>>41903773
I'm pretty sure humans aren't good at running compared to most animals, i mean i could be totally wrong but

>>41925015
Cool thanks

>>41901579
honestly dood, this sounds meme as fuck but it works for me whenever i take a break from running and get shin splints again.

Lie on your bed and with your feet sticking off the end, and and point your feet as hard as you can, then do the inverse, do this a few time and its gone. trust.

>>41925027
Running is the only thing that animals have us beat at. We have better one on one combat skills though. A human trained in any martial art could defeat any animal.

>>41925027
He probably only considered bipeds I think.

>>41915007
>or she can keep up with you, or worse, beat you

If anything that would be good motivation for you.

And for the women it might make her feel like she has to be your personal trainer which isn't a bad thing as she would hang out with you more.

>>41925027
We're ridiculously good at long distance running because we have sweat glands, allowing us to cool off independent of our breathing, and we're two-legged, allowing us to breathe independent of our pace.

Born To Run is a really cool, albeit somewhat sensationalist, book about this.

>>41925027
Humans are good at running long distances, the only thing animals can beat us on is speed

>>41925063
A human can't fly long distance like ducks.

>>41924788

>http://fellrnr.com/wiki/When_to_eat_Energy_Gels_in_the_Marathon

The advice on this website is top-notch.

>>41924559
I'd say a sub 12min 3k is good for a regular runner
If you can only run once a week you could try running a 20min tempo run. Warm up for 10-15 minutes and then run 20 minutes at a fairly hard effort, 80-88 % of maximum heart rate. Ideally, you'd do a long run, some shorter easy runs, tempo runs and speedwork, but if you can only run once a week, I think the tempo run will give you the best training gains

>>41925087
This is one of the reasons we didn't hunt ducks before we invented the bow and arrow.

>>41925087
>A human can't fly long distance like ducks.
A repeating nightmare I keep having is that I'm running down a hill and I jump too far the hill is so steep that I start gaining momentum angled out far enough where I lose any hope of regaining contact with the ground and then I just entire freefall off the end of a hill-turned-cliff and fall endlessly screaming and screaming until my heart explodes.

>>41925112
Wow that looks really good, thanks.

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Requesting a good video showing proper running form.

>>41925087
Didn't realise this was a flying thread

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>>41925113
>If you can only run once a week you could try running a 20min tempo run

Could you a tl;dr what is a tempo run?

>>41925214
Bumping becouse I need it too

>>41925040
Good luck using your judo skills against a hippo

>>41925246
There's very little difference between running and flying.

>>41925265
I dunno, I can definitely run further than I can fly.

Besides, we was talking about running. I'm pretty sure a fish can swim for longer than me also, but again that's not running.

>>41924838
Run with a dog.

>>41925258
You run a tempo run at 80-90 % of your maximum heart rate. At that intensity, you're not working fully aerobically anymore, and you're inducing some lactic acid, but you're not exactly going into the anaerobic area either (that would be +90% of you max heart rate) where you're producing so much lactic acid it would be detrimental to your speed. Basically, at the tempo run pace you're producing some lactic acid, but your body can handle it, and you'll improve your ability to process lactic acid. If you go any faster, you'd go anaerobic, and you'd start to breath very hard and slow down because of the lactic acid. You'd feel it in your muscles too. A tempo run is sometimes described as a "comfortably hard effort". It's a great exercise and you can run them once a week, and you'll see good gains after a month or two, and it'll greatly improve your ability to run at a max effort, like at a 3k. Although a 3k is not a very long distance and doing some even harder (anaerobic) track work outs would be really beneficial as well

>>41920358
why not

>>41925352
Thank you very much anon! I will test it next week. Going for 20 minutes, while trying to maintain a "comfortably hard effort". Any tips on how to find this pace and how to mantain it?

>>41903773
>only physical thing humans are good at

ahh yes I've seen plenty of animals absolutely excel at ice hockey

>>41925400
Not them, but I find concentrating on my breathing helps me set my pace. If you're starting to struggle for breath, wheezing or can't breath with a slight gap in the in/out portion, slow down a bit. If you feel like you could easily hold a conversation then speed up slightly.

>>41924347
You can't get under 10min in a 3k only running once a week. It would be hard even running 5-7 time a week

>>41925265
Birds can glide, which is cheating

>>41925475
Got it. So basically fatigue but without running out of breath. I'm going to be slow af lmao, since my best is 6:25 min/km

>>41925400
The easiest way to find the pace is to use a heart rate monitor. If you don't have one, you'll have to pay attention to your breathing and the feeling in your muscles. The basic rule is that you're breathing fairly hard, but you feel you can sustain the pace and you're legs aren't going stiff from lactic acid. Hence, "comfortably hard effort". Finding the correct pace can take some practice though, but if you're a beginner there's nothing wrong with being a bit conservative to avoid going too hard. You don't want to go into the anaerobic area, that's not the purpose of the exercise and you won't get the training benefits your going after with the tempo run.

You can also try a "talk test": if you can talk out loud sentences a few words in length, you're pretty much spot on. If you can talk full sentences effortlessly, you're going too slow, if you can barely burst out one word you're going too hard.

>>41925063
tl;dr sprinters are wasting their time

>>41925027
In terms of endurance we are better than any animal. We could be 99% of animals in a marathon, and 100% over 50 miles.

>>41925526
>You can also try a "talk test": if you can talk out loud sentences a few words in length, you're pretty much spot on. If you can talk full sentences effortlessly, you're going too slow, if you can barely burst out one word you're going too hard.

Well, it looks like I'm talking to myself next time, any recommended poems I should know?

I'm going to donate bone marrow on monday. How long should I wait before running again?

>>41925541
Aren't the sled dogs the only thing that are currently better than us, and we bred them specifically to do that, so it's not a big deal?

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I go to gym 2-3 times a week, I always used skiing machine for cardio (10mins prior and after lifting), because treadmill scares me. I tried treadmill recently and I was surprisingly shit at running, gassed out in 5mins and legs really hurt.

I want to start morning runs. What is the best way to go about it? I know of c25k and that would be my plan, but I'm not sure how to combine it with gym workouts. I assume I shouldn't use treadmill in gym as to not overextend? Or is more - better?

I also want to use some android tracking to keep discipline. I found strava, is there anything better? Is smartwatch better than phone in a pocket?

>>41925552
>any recommended poems I should know
No, not really, just describe your surroundings to yourself, that's what I've done!

>>41925614
>I want to start morning runs. What is the best way to go about it

You get up in the morning and run.

>>41924788
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb_9o7YTmiU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS3365o2dNY

>>41924930
He's trolling you dumb fuck

>>41925752
Thats the plan. I'm asking if I should also run gym treadmill in evenings or that would be overdoing for wimp like me

>>41925769
What's wrong with the left side of his jaw?

>>41925614
It's a light jog anon. You're not doing HIIT or something like that.
You won't overtrain by adding 15 minutes of moving your fatass at a slow pace a day.

Joining the RAF, just been running 2.4k on a treadmill, 3x a week.
Current best time is about 10:50

Anything I can do to make running more enjoyable? Easier? Push through more?
Currently drink coffee and play some chill music.

>>41925665
It's nice to be a (aspiring) writer and think about my stories n stuff when I run. Feels like I'm not wasting my time.

>>41901483
No. I'm prone to joint problems and back when I was running the problem was "shin splints", i.e. lower leg tendonitis/tendonosis.

But I didn't do any strength training either.

>>41924788
You have enough stores up to half marathon. Take a gel every 30 mins or so from 20kish

>>41925607

The man vs horse marathon is won most years by a horse.

>>41926631
Because it's only 22 miles, not 26. And it's frankly an arbitrary point anyways because plenty of people are capable of the ultramarathons of 50/100 miles.

>>41926995
The horse is also carrying a human. To be fair the men should be carrying a horse.

How is memory foam for running? Seemed like a good idea for running but before I use them I thought I'd ask the question. Any real negatives? I run 4k 3x a week right now as I've become a fatty again.

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>>41925373
Because it gets everywhere :((

>>41911452
i've been doing hill repeats and my tempos in hills

>>41924990
Going to sort of bump this. Do Puma make decent shoes for running? Are there any low cost gems?

>>41928202
fucking kek

>>41927614
It will probably wear out real quick I'd recommend addidas boost they have durable cushioning and are available at a few different price points depending on the model

>>41925598
Ask the fucking doctor that's doing it

>>41928419
Ignite v2 or Faas 500 for general running, the Speed 300 ignite for racing