What The Health

>>41857705
Let me guess, What the Health also told you to be a vegan.

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>>41857705

>a documentary changed his life

>>41857705
Everything gives u cancer, certainly ur post.

Watch it before you judge.

>>41857757
False. A lot of things fight cancer. Convenient for you to believe that though I guess.

>studies skewed by fatties who pound down gallons of milk and cheese burgers
I could make a study that shows a link between alcohol and lung cancer. It doesn't matter than heavy drinkers are more likely to smoke too.

>>41857774
Yeah dude like W333d YEAH

>>41857788
Another convenient delusion. Most of the studies cited actually use "healthy" omnivores.

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>>41857705
lol
You think this board is about health OP. Cute.
Unless it's about chomping down 200g of protein, taking drugs just to make a shirtless tinder profile or simply using a lot of drugs just so you can make fun of the non drug using faggots on this board..it simply will be mocked to death.

>>41857875
The convenient delusion is that you're so scared of hurting animals that you want to believe every study that claims animal products are unhealthy is true.

>>41857898
yup. they literally removed the word "health" from the page header.

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>>41857705
>Implying milk give you cancer
It's bullshit meme
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2014/01/true-or-false-dairy-is-toxic-hormone.html
Also highly doubt the"milk=prostate cancer" entirely especially when in the article it says:
>Estrone and prostate cancer risk in men: As far as the estrone levels Maruyama et al. measured in their 2010 study are concerned it is very difficult to tell, whether or not the 26% increase in E2 levels is or isn't a problem.
>The estrone values in the Maruyama study are unrealistic. With a normal range of <68pg/ml the subjects in the Maruyama study would have elevated E1 levels to begin with, if the measurement was correct.
>difficult to tell
>unrealistic
and
>What remains to be seen, though, is whether future epidemiological evidence will support or refute the currently heralded hypothesis that dairy consumption increases prostate cancer risk and whether we will be able to identify more feasible explanations for this relations than those that are implicated by the results Maruyama et al. present in their 2010 study.
>(cont.)

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>>41857774
wrong

>>41857968
>>41858022

Holy fuck how can someone this thoroughly believe in the "science" posted on blogs.

I don't even feel this is worth putting any time into to debunk because the sites you've listed are so obvious to anyone who has absolutely any education in nutrition to be the most unforgivable bullshit. And even if people don't know about nutrition if they have a bit of common sense they can spot the worthlessness of a list of blog posts anyway.

You might get a few thoroughly deluded people to listen to you anyway though, but I wouldn't be able to help them with facts anyway.

>>41857968
>(cont.)
>>41857788
See, my first post.

Bonus: Animal protein/fat are also not bad for you and don't cause CVD or cancer; either.
>http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/meat-and-cancer/
>http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/meat-cancer-bacon-who-report-mens-fitness-health
>https://rawfoodsos.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/minger_formal_response2.pdf
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/06/final-china-study-response-html/
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/03/the-china-study-a-formal-analysis-and-response/
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/
>http://www.foodrenegade.com/the-china-study-discredited/
>https://deniseminger.com/the-china-study/
>https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/the-curious-case-of-campbells-rats-does-protein-deficiency-prevent-cancer/
>https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/taking-a-trip-down-memory-lane-fishing-for-our-good-friend-glutathione-in-the-waters-of-the-memory-hole-how-t-colin-campbell-helped-prove-that-protein-protects-us/
>https://authoritynutrition.com/it-aint-the-fat-people/
>https://authoritynutrition.com/top-8-reasons-not-to-fear-saturated-fats/
>https://chriskresser.com/the-diet-heart-myth-cholesterol-and-saturated-fat-are-not-the-enemy
>https://breakingmuscle.com/fuel/why-all-humans-need-to-eat-meat-for-health
>https://authoritynutrition.com/7-evidence-based-health-reasons-to-eat-meat/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/1zjlmu/scienceanimal_protein_rich_diets_could_be_harmful/cfupxyt/
>>41857774
This
>>41858035
He's right. I just covered this

>>41858079
>Holy fuck how can someone this thoroughly believe in the "science" posted on blogs.
Because they don't fall for memes and aren't retarded
>I don't even feel this is worth putting any time into to debunk because the sites you've listed are so obvious to anyone who has absolutely any education in nutrition to be the most unforgivable bullshit. And even if people don't know about nutrition if they have a bit of common sense they can spot the worthlessness of a list of blog posts anyway.
No, you can't debunk it because all you have is bad science and bullshit. I'm sure it has to be worthless to you because facts hurt your feelings.
>You might get a few thoroughly deluded people to listen to you anyway
Again, if by deluded you mean not retarded you're correct.
> but I wouldn't be able to help them with facts anyway.
The only part of your post that's actually right. If you believe the dietary bullshit that milk causes cancer you wouldn't be able to help anyone with facts

>>41857968
>>41858035
>>41858084
>>41858173

Wow, this is desperate.

>>41858349
Wow, you don't read

>>41858084

>diagnosisdiet
>rawfoodsos
>denisminger
>foodrenegade
>authoritynutrition
>reddit r/keto

Why do they even bother teaching us about using reliable sources in school when dumbasses like this continue to exist.

>>41858787
Why did they even bother to teach you about basic science, biology, nutrition or to read at all

>>41858787
If you even bothered to open the first link you'd find that it is a response filled with references.

Milk also give you stomach trouble.

>>41857705
Yes. I'm going vegan now.

Who cares just eat lift and be happy.

Stop being so neurotic about what you eat. Get your macros, take a multi, and don't waste your life away.

>>41859519
if you're lactose. otherwise you're just a bitch who can't handle his moo.

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> tfw just had milk in my post workout shake
>tfw grilling a steak rn

>>41858035
To be fair, 2x an extremely small risk is still extremely unlikely.

You increase your chances of getting struck by lightning 10000000x over by going outside, but we still go outside...

Prostate cancer is like the inevitable cancer for all old men.

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>>41860588
Pic super related

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I'm sensing this thread is ... garbage

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>>41860613
>absolutely disgusting

>>41860613
i know this feel

>>41860588
>>41860596
Seriously this. We have found cancerous tumors in mummies, to Rome, pretty much every ancient civilization. Cancer is nothing new.

>>41860622
I think thats jealousy...

>>41857968
jokes on you cumming 21 times a month lowers you chance of getting prostate cancer.

>>41860749
Say hello to erectile dysfunction

>>41857705
ITT: corpse eaters TRIGGERED

Cancer:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23169929
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22121108
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11743810
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4135519/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18789600
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22342103
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15955547
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19279082
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18980957
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3081176
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22867847
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21422422
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12588089
Diabetes:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diabetes/wireStory?id=2244647
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19386029/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24523914
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19351712
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18481955
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23509418
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16596361
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15983191
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23509418
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24149445
Heart Disease:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17518696
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/108/22/2757.full.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7019459
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312295/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15172426

>>41861522
Osteoporosis:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25352269
American Dietetics Association Position on veganism:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864
Longest Living Population:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11434797
Low Carbohydrate Diets and mortality:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20820038
Plant foods have a complete Amino Acid profile:
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/105/25/e197.full
Benefits of a vegan diet:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4691673/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3967195/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4245565/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4583329/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4844163/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2677007/
Vegans & Vegetarians are more empathetic:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2877098/

Disregard meat eater bait shitposts until every single citation I have posted has been refuted. Not "lol tldr dismissed", but refuted.

Fuck off back to the graveyard aisle at the grocery store

>>41861447
>you get ED from cumming

thats not how it works anon

>>41860613
Louis Theroux is really struggling for new ideas.

>>41861548
so I randomly picked http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4691673/

and the conclusion was "United Kingdom–based vegetarians and comparable nonvegetarians have similar all-cause mortality. Differences found for specific causes of death merit further investigation."

so it would not appear to actually support your point. it would seem to say there's no ultimate difference. so I think, as a meat-eater, I would rather not refute it and continue eating these former-shells of the living things I have, for my entire life, hated with a passion (FUCK COWS)

>>41862183
Who hurt you anon? you

Fucking 90% of your daily activities have been said to cause cancer, including vidya games and wanking

>>41862390
Which makes a non-inflammatory, antioxidant-rich diet all the more important

>>41858084
what the fuck are all those links

they're not academic researches so I won't even bother to read them

>supplying a blogspot as "evidence"

lmao, eat A LOT of meat, I don't hope you get cancer, though

>>41862450
>nflammation necessary for immune cells to detect and kill precancerous cells
>reductive dna damage
no

>>41857924
[spoiler]I don't give a shit about animals and[/spoiler] I stopped eating meat, dairy, and eggs. Can you guess why?

>>41858035

>every study is of equal quality and design

yay veganism

>>41858079

He goes thread to thread posting dumb blogs that he tells people to read and then if you ask him to single out any point from them to talk about he acts like he hasn't bothered to read any of it himself

>>41859091

>>41858079
Nobody else ITT knows shit about nutrition either. It's a bunch of high school children discussing the ramifications of a diet religion documentary they watched on youtube. It doesn't belong on the fitness board.

>>41862547
because you dont give a fuck about your health or the planet??

>>41862669
He was completely rekt in that thread, other anons have still rekt him on other of his links in the archives, and he keeps posting. Just don't ever reply to him, he is a dedicated shitposter. He literally wouldn't care about the truth if it fucked him in the ass with a cactus. I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be nob$, roaming millennial or someone similar

>>41858035
wine and tomatoes it is!

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>>41857753

>>41857947
That was to get rid of Mental Health General. Didn't really work, though. They didn't fuck off to /r9k/

pathetic, if you can't handle milk you don't deserve to live on this planet

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>>41863029
>lactose intolerance decides whether you live or die

>>41862681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI

>>41863029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI

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>>41863036
>mfw we will test people with milk in the race war to figure out if they are pure white or not

>>41863056
>oh no! a youtube video! i'm defeated!
fuck off, nigger

>>41863070
you watched that quick

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>>41863056

>>41863077
i didn't even bother, it's youtube, it's american, it's ignorant pseudoscience with a clickbait-y title no matter how you put it.
i'm 22, i have no problems drinking milk and eating cheese, neither does anyone in my family, humanity has been consuming milk related products for the entirety of it's evolution and now a random 21th century woman can tell me what do eat or drink with a youtube video?
how about no

>>41863094
ignorance is bliss

>>41863108
yeah, must be working out great for you, tell me about it

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>>41863094

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>>41863136
>strawman fallacy

>>41863136
This is beautiful.

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>>41863157

>>41863136
>he doesn't love cheese

>>41863178
I don't understand this picture. Do vegans think we'd just keep farm animals hanging around for no reason?

>>41859519
Only if you're not white

>>41863258
sanctuary's

>>41863079
>>41863056
[ShindoL] a Nyuugyuu life

>>41863273
OK, but why and how?

>>41863286
why not?

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/vegetarian-farmer-cow-herd-save-abattoir-jay-wilde-animal-sanctuary-bradley-nook-derbyshire-a7789131.html

>>41863258
You'll have to forgive vegans.

They have never spent anytime around cows. They think they are these intelligent majestic creatures or something.

>>41863296
I'm more curious about the financial and logistical side of things. I guess you could spend shitload of money to get the current population into sanctuaries, sterilize them and then have the species die out.

>>41863305
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/vegetarian-farmer-cow-herd-save-abattoir-jay-wilde-animal-sanctuary-bradley-nook-derbyshire-a7789131.html

>>41863310
well you realise it will be a steady decline of the industry meaning less cows being born exc..

>>41863323
So eat and process the existing animals and just stop breeding them till they die out. Most plausible scenario, I guess.

>>41863313

There are 9 states in the US with more cows than people.

>>41863336
so?

>>41863342
do you know how much cows eat in the winter?

>>41863342
It means you'll have to kill and burn a shitload of cows to save them from being eaten.

>>41863343
>>41863344
read
>>41863332

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>>41863029

>>41863358
>Stop animals which only exist to fuck and eat from fucking.
Would be like telling niggers to not have children out of wedlock.

>>41863051
>biological processes are yucky eeew

>>41863376
let nature take its course like every other animal species

>>41857705
I dont trust any 'facts' distributed in video form.

I do watch it for the entertainment value though, my favorite is 'what the bleep do we know', and 'thrive'. (both of which are so wrong I cant even fit the corrections in 1 thread)

>>41863405
That's good. I've done extensive research on the topic myself so I know everything said in What The Health is accurate. But yes, it's entertaining as well.

>>41857705
>Just saw that dairy profits are waning in the face milk alternatives being popularized and my mind was blown. Anyone else gonna buy the next thing the ad companies decide is "healthy?"

>>41863418
welcome to the light :)

>>41863391
I am nature though, so I don't see your point. I also got these all-natural uranium tablets for you to suck on if you like all natural stuff, or all natural snake venom.

>>41862183
>>41861548
>>41861522
Vegans BTFO yet again

>>41863305
ugh.. cows are so fucking dumb. I hate them so much, but boy, I sure do enjoy eating their tasty, tasty flesh.

You can get cancer without anything harmful, just a little bad luck and one of your cells mutates into a tumor.

>>41863488
I have raised cattle for close to 20 years.

I thought they were the dumbest fucking creatures on earth.....Until I bought some turkeys.

>>41857853
Tots this bruh. My friends friend had full blown cancer maaan. I gave him a hit and he we instantly cured. He didn't have to keep smoking but he didn't want to cancer to come back so now he's addi...depen...hoo... He enjoys lighting up here and there on a daily basis

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>>41863136

Mom the 4chan boys (gf) are at it again

>>41863506
all poultry are retarded. I have sheep, cattle and chickens, and had pigs before.

I dont think chickens are even aware.

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>>41863374

>>41860330
Have fun dying mate

>>41860749
But I know that
>>41861447
Meme
>>41861559
This
>http://www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>http://urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>http://www.frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>>41862669
>>41862790
The only things either of you are saying in these posts are that facts hurt your feelings. I wasn't rekt in the egg thread and I haven't been rekt in any thread. I even still waiting for responses in that thread and this one that aren't memes.
>>41861522
>>41861548
>ITT: corpse eaters TRIGGERED
The only one whos triggered is you, you also don't read at all either
>>41862473
>what the fuck are all those links
What you should be reading instead of shitposting
>they're not academic researches so I won't even bother to read the
Well at least you actually admit you don't read
>supplying a blogspot as "evidence"
>Not reading
>lmao, eat A LOT of meat, I don't hope you get cancer, though
Don't worry, science says I won't
>>41862547
>Can you guess why?
Because you've fallen for memes?

>>41863783
>Don't worry, science says I won't

Did you read the fine print under that science. Like, for example, who paid for it?

>>41863449
Kek, are you having a stroke?

>>41863358
That was my original point - you won't have the happy utopia on the left. You either kill them and burn them, or kill them and eat them. Either way - they're going to be extinct.

>>41863979
Did you read the science at all?

>>41864090
Answer the question.

>>41863979
Man stop replying to him, just stop, he is dedicated. Either a dedicated shitposter or a dedicated shill, in any case there is no getting through to him

>>41864075
like i said santurys

>>41864075
We don't eat pandas, but they are not extinct. Retard.

>>41864097
Because it somehow makes your memes correct right? I don't have to answer anything, especially your retarded bait question
>>41864116
>there is no getting through to him
Because all you have is bad science and pseudoscientific memes

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>>41864277
We've come full circle. There are more sheep than people in NZ and like some other anon said there are more cows than people in 9 US states. What are the exact logistics and who's gonna pay for the sanctuaries?
Lets say we all go vegan or elect a tyrannical government who will enforce strict veganism. The options are:
a) let all the livestock loose, have them starve and die out (will cause environmental pollution and other issues)
b) kill them all and burn the bodies (costly, but fastest and cleanest)
c) kill them slowly and eat them while sterilizing and/or not allowing them to breed (a bit more optimal since it will let the industry cover some of their costs during the phase-out times and possibly re-invest in vegetable farming)

I'm not even arguing against veganism, I'm just saying that your utopia is retarded and detached from reality. You want to stop livestock industry? Fine, but you have to acknowledge the consequences.

>>41864352
But you have bulletproof objective science.

>>41864348
Pandas are not livestock.
Besides - we should let them die out. It's a perfect illustration what happens to a species that decides to go vegan.

>>41860749
What if I cum at least 21 times a week?

>>41864370
Do you seriously believe this is how it works? Mate, no
Here is a more realistic scenario
1) January 1, 2017 is the baseline for animal product consumption (for the sake of this discussion)
2) January 1, 2018, per capita animal product consumption has increased by X percent and the world population has increased by Y percent. If either decreases, the value is negative. The animal agriculture industry collectively adapts to the bed demand by (X+Y) percent.
3) so far, this is what realistically happens. If things play out as vegans want, the X will be negative
4) repeat every year. Hopefully some day |X|>|Y|, which means that the animal agriculture industry starts shrinking and less animals are bred than killed
5) repeat anually until few animals are left.
6) Mass production is unprofitable now, few animals are left. Some are killed, some go to sanctuaries
7) congratulations, everyone is now vegan

>>41864377
Yes and if you simply research yourself and used google like you should have already done instead of shitposting you'd see even more science and evidence backing me
>>41864421
Then...you don't have to worry about prostate cancer
>>41863783

>>41864528
Where is the science?

>>41864370
i dont give a fuxck if they had a choice they would rather not exist than the life long torture + most animals die in their relative childhood

>>41858787
You mean (((reliable)))

>>41864511
yay logic

you did what i couldn't be bothered to explain without crayons

>>41864549
Gee I wonder... maybe you should reread my posts and find out

>>41864511
OK, so option C then.

>>41864590
Cheers anon

>>41864595
All I see is blogs, /r/keto and and authoritynutrition, notoriously the most biased and dishonest dietary site on the internet.

>>41864599
>option C
Not quite. You said that was... >>41864370
> utopia is retarded and detached from reality ... acknowledge the consequences
What I said was neither retarded nor detached from reality and there are literally zero consequences

>>41863580
10/10

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>>41858035
tfw you only eat
>wine
>tomatoes
>tea
>milk
>eggs
>corn
>coffee
>butter
>beef

>>41857898
looks like that pepe with the big ass

>>41857705
The only "vid" I ever saw on the matter was https://nutritionfacts.org/video/is-milk-good-for-our-bones/ and some other related vid from the same doctor on youtube
I double checked the referenced articles and I was glad I stopped drinking milk when I was like ~12

>>41864623
>What I said was neither retarded nor detached from reality and there are literally zero consequences
What you said was my option C which is a somewhat plausible scenario. What I called retarded is that pic where livestock and people are living happily ever after. This will never happen.

>>41864758
sanctuaries tho.

>>41862547
Because you are a fucking moron, afraid of things people do since probably millions years.

>>41864764
What is the economic motivation for keeping livestock around after the world has gone full vegan? Some species can be useful like goats or sheep for maintaining grass and bees for pollinating crops (god forbid you eat some of the honey though).

>>41864821
same reason we have dogs

>>41864873
What good is a cow if you don't use the milk or eat its flesh? What good is a pig? Why would you keep chickens if you won't eat the eggs?
Of course some species are useful beyond basic consumption, but most aren't.

>>41864949
what good is a dog unless you eat its flesh for cancer gainz?

>>41857853
>>41863580
>WEED DEGENERACY NIGGER NIGGER L O N D O N IF YOU SMOKE AFTER WORKING OUT JUST KYS WORTHLESS FAGGOT

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>>41864969
Really? It'll protect you and your property.

>>41864821
What is the economic motivation for keeping pandas or other endangered species around?

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>>41865002

>>41865022
None for pandas as far as I'm concerned. I don't know why the chinamen insist of keeping them around. Some species are important for ecologic stability, but pandas probably aren't not one of those.
The point is that most of the domesticated animals are just livestock with no other function than to provide food. You don't want to eat them? No problem, but why would you keep them around?
>>41865041
They provide surrogate child services for women in their 30s who are literally slowly dying inside.

>>41865002
look @ this retard pays for the torture and slaughter of animals because he doesn't want them to die out fucking life saver

>>41865080
No. I pay for it because they're tasty.
All I've been doing is tracing the results of your proposed utopia.

>>41865099
ok look sanctuaries already exist

>>41865080
>>41865099
Also, I haven't been arguing against veganism at all. The entire point of the discussion was "ok, lets say everyone turns vegan - what will happen to most of the domesticated species". It's just weird that vegans who don't eat beef or drink milk expect cows to be around once everyone is as enlightened as they are.

>>41865126
it would be a gradual process and the remainder would exist in sanctuaries

this is no reason to keep supporting the slaughter

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>>41865151
And they'll keep expanding at the same rate as the livestock industry shrinks? Will they allow the animals to breed? Will they feed the following generations?

>>41865158
we are the ones who breed them

>>41865200
Currently for farming, yeah. But if some guy in vegan utopia creates a sanctuary using up huge amounts of farmable land and spends resources to take care of the animals against his economic self interest, will he let the animals fugg and create offspring which he has to take care of? Or would it better to segregate or sterilize the animals?

>>41865200
>we are the ones who breed them
Are you implying animals wouldn't know how to breed without human intervention?

Also to all the "let nature happen" people, do you know what wild hogs do to an area?

>>41865243
>Are you implying animals wouldn't know how to breed without human intervention?
Some domesticated animals literally can't do it on their own tho.
>do you know what wild hogs do to an area?
Domesticated pigs (or any other animal for that matter) would just starve unless someone feeds them though.

>>41865243
>>41865241
>>41865241
just separate them same way we do now

their ancestors would have been fine anyway we don't need cows or sheep they are engineered for our own greed

>>41865272
>Domesticated pigs (or any other animal for that matter) would just starve unless someone feeds them though.
hahahahahahahahaha

This is what vegans actually believe.

>>41865307
you are trolling a fello carnist their m8

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>>41857705
these threads always remind me to drink more milk like the drink your water daily threads. although these threads also reminds me that im superior to nonwhites

keep them up anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAfJG1PMjbY

70 hogs down. thousands to go.

>>41865381
how is this related?

>>41865307
>This is what vegans actually believe.
1) not a vegan
2) if you think that livestock could survive without humans you're a retard

>>41865467
carnist.

>>41857705
You know, other animals don't drink milk past infancy. They also don't drink other species' milk.

>>41865713
Other animals didn't go to the moon either, or split the atom. Other animals don't use computers or smartphones either. If you think that being like the other animals is admirable, smash your PC and your phone and go live in the wilderness. Protip: if you see humans operating technology more than once a month, you're not living like the other animals.

>>41865756
You wouldn't drink Labrador milk. Drinking cow milk is just as abnormal and perverted, you just have been indoctrinated to believe otherwise

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>>41865713
becoming lactose intolerant is what happens to animals after infancy because if they didnt then adults would be competing against babies for food, mill being a perfect food and therefore extremely desirable

>>41865816
I would drink fucking mouse milk if it wasn't so expensive, bitch, much less to say dog milk. I already eat sheep cheese and goat cheese, what kind of pleb tastes do you have?

What milk do vegans feed their babies?

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>>41865836
nothing since making a baby be on a vegetarian diet is literally child abuse and they have their babies taken away

>>41857753
>he's capable of introspection

>>41865836
http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/baby-breastfed-by-vegan-mother-dies/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/baby-dies-diet-parents-convicted-lucas-dendermonde-belgium-malnutrition-dehydration-a7790916.html
http://www.i-nhs.com/inhs/diet-veganbaby.html

tl;dr Vegans feed their babies a big fat dose of DEATH even when breastfeeding them.

>>41865836
human milk.

>>41858035
Lets see this with blueberries or broccoli, please post studies showing the link between broccoli or blueberries and cancer!
Should be easy because "everything causes cancer" right?

>>41863506
Ever keep a Christmas Turkey alive for too long? Its actually horrific how fat and gross they become.

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>>41865836
Breastfeeding is consenting. Veganism does not say "you shall never eat animal products just because", it says "animal exploitation and product consumption is unethical"
>>41865881
>THREE vaygan kids died => all vegan kids die!
I can go down the anecdote route too,
http://www.bu.edu/sph/2016/01/19/strong-link-between-pre-pregnancy-obesity-and-infant-deaths/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2771609/Morbidly-obese-child-died-parents-ignored-medical-advice-failed-Coroner-found.html
Or I can go down the medical doctors' and dietetics' scientific consensus road
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864
>It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.

>>41864620
>All I see is blogs, /r/keto and and authoritynutrition, notoriously the most biased and dishonest dietary site on the internet.
Yes, because going solely by how you feel about what I post, ignoring more science and still not reading means what I posted is "dishonest"