fraud

I wanna add a relatively dry and mild oral to a test/npp blast. Anyone had luck with higher doses of tbol in this situation? I know it's generally shit but I'm trying to let the oils do most of the work and throw in an oral towards the end to help polish things up.

Is it better to dirty bulk or clean bulk on a cycle if you want to get big and lean?

Been training for six months now, got alrighty results. Are there any reasons I shouldn't do roids already? Just want quicker results, will ofc still keep on training and keep my diet in check.

>>41855794
is that even a question?
under 700mg tren cleanbulk over eat whatever the fuck you find dosnt mather

>>41855794
Depends on the compounds and dosage, but in general if you wanna be big and lean clean bulking is your friend.

>>41855852
If you've only been training for six months your diet and routine probably aren't as good as you think they are. But more importantly you're likely to injure yourself if you start roiding.

>>41855886

I understand that I know far from everything how my body responds to certain kind of training or that they are as good as I think they are.

How am I more likely to injure myself? Are you refering to not the best technique or like tendons not being as strong?

>>41855904
Steroids increase the strength of your muscles more rapidly than your ligaments and tendons, so unless you're careful it's very easy to lift more weight than your body can handle and fuck your shit up. You need experience to be able to know when your body is close to injury and back off.

And also yes, your form probably could use work.

>>41855943

Thanks man, appreciate the feedback :)

Will probably hold of the steroids until I at least hit the 1 year mark then.

>>41855959
More like the 5 year mark minimum, you're going to look like shit.

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>>41855959
Just pin fag, its time to get BIG

for a few years since starting frauding (can't say if it's a coincidence) my stomach has felt pretty bloaty. I feel like I'm going to burst after a medium sized meal. It could be gas but I don't fart or burp a lot. I'm thinking high bp or either glucose or lactose intolerance. what do you think?

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If the fucktard from >>41840581 comes asking for help, tell him to fuck off. I'm praying it's the funniest LARP I've ever seen, but at this point I don't know. He's doing tren for 6 weeks as his first cycle after not lifting for 8 months, at 19% bodyfat, and refuses to believe he needs PCT or AI beyond Vitamin B6.

>>41856168
>high bp or either glucose or lactose intolerance
It's almost definitely not one of those three. What compounds and dosages?

>>41856176
I'm 99% sure it's trollin. If not I gleefully await the follow up thread a few weeks from now when he realizes he fucked up and needs advice.

Nobody can be so retarded as to randomly inject something without the slightest bit of research. R-right?

>>41856244
He posted in a CBT thread last week outlining what he was going to do - I half believe he's serious and just utterly delusional. I pray to god he posts pics before he an heros from the trensomnia and bitch tits

>>41856231
well it first started with test only I think so

>>41855764
Im one of oldschool fitizens who tried /dhacks/ dnp here

Was amazing but now he stopped how the fuck do you guys get your dnp

>>41856270
What are your estrogen levels?

>>41856295
this is how you get banned

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>>41856268
So either it's a long con troll or legit.

Please God let it be real.

>>41856314
But why. We always had these discussions in /fit/ steroid general back then.

Did the boys move on to create a super secret society?

>>41855871
How hard would it be clean bulking on 5k calories?
What're some foods that would be good for this?

>>41856409
Kinda difficult, and depends how far you stretch 'clean'

1.5-2g protein per lb bodyweight at least

Then the rest should be about 70/30 carbs and fats. Preferably carbs from sources like potatoes or rice.

>>41856391
we used to have sources selling directly in /fraud/ too. that shit doesn't fly anymore.

no source talk, it's against the law so it's against 4chan rules. it gets you banned.

>>41856309
see >>41850426
I dunno, haven't checked them up in a good while

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is my gyno really that bad?

>>41856934
Lorenzo?

Yes, to your question.

>>41856934
I wanna suck the milk from your titties

so yes

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I would honestly murder someone if it meant I could fuck Taylor Swift. What about you brehs

>>41856958
meh

>>41856958
Nah, she looks plastic as fuck. Her hair doesn't even seem real.

>>41856958
Do I have to fuck Taylor Swift?

>haven't pinned in 3 weeks due to unforeseen circumstances (nomally b&cing)
>can't even notice it, I feel E X A C T L Y the same as I did before starting roids and the same as I did on roids
>nipple suddenly itching tho

I wish I could get the roids placebo other people get

>>41856934
are they sensitive?

>>41856934
normal people who dont go on this board or dont have autism will not care.

>>41857050
lol yes they will, that shit will poke through every shirt he will ever wear. with decent sized pecs it just makes it look like he has titties

>>41856970
You're not allowed to

>>41856965
>>41856966
She is my true love

>>41856989
Haven't pinned in 10 weeks and have not felt hardly any different than when I was cruising 300mg test/wk

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Being in love feels too good brehs. Caring about someone else who cares about you, it's weird but gives you a purpose. Feels extra good when she's super petite and just wants to be held by you. Gah. I need to up the AI.

>>41856958
She'd probably fuck you if you could ever get into her social circle, she's seriously shallow when it comes to morals. Plus you'll get a top 40 song about you and your muscles.

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Told new girl im on trt and going to be blasting test/mast in the foreseeable future, she didnt care besides when i said im gonna be probably a bit more horny.

Eating more and more clean every day and looking better and better. Actually managing to eat less than 50g's of sugar a day. IIFYM makes me look like shit and clean eating makes me look good. Don't need to think more about that to decide.

>inb4 roiding for this

T R T B O I S
R
T
B
O
I
S

>>41857153
please eat

>>41857153
At least grow a mustache, that chinstrap doesn't work by itself.

>>41857153
>roiding for this

>>41855855
i fell for this and got fat as shit BTW eating only "clean" food but way too much of it.

>>41856958
overrated as fuck.
if i could fuck my teenage crushes like monica bellucci or kate backinsale them yes, murder is acceptable

>>41857153
Dyel
No mass

>>41857077
>Being in love feels too good brehs. Caring about someone else who cares about you, it's weird but gives you a purpose. Feels extra good when she's super petite and just wants to be held by you. Gah. I need to up the AI.

tfw mentally ill and am not capable of truly believing someone else gives a shit about me in the slightest, even my pets

probably from childhood abuse from bipolars, where they would keep going from "loving" me to abusing me

>>41857305
How many calories were you getting everyday?

>>41857153
>3.84Mb photo
boyo why do you do this

>>41856958
How are people attracted to this and want to fuck it? It looks like it is over 50 years old?

Just googled and she is not even 30 yet what the fuck???

>>41857327

average of 1k over maintenance, sometimes less sometimes more

>>41857338
s t o p

>>41857153
dyel

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Diagnosed low test here (not low enough to warrant prescription trt)

I posted before and am basically planning to do a blast/permacruise kinda thing. Basically self diagnosing myself 150mg test/week on my lifetime cruise, but having some fun on a 600mg/week blast for 15 weeks before that.

Arimidex on hand as my AI, 0.5mgs/day only if I see signs of gyno.

Lifting same as before, 6days/week PPL.

Planning to eat ~4000-5000 calories/day on blast then cut down to probably around 2700 for cut/maintenance.

The lab is reputable. The supplier is very well praised and reputable. Arimidex is pharma-grade.

Is there anything else I need to know and/or prepare for before I leave humanity behind?

>>41857633
>Arimidex on hand as my AI, 0.5mgs/day only if I see signs of gyno.
lol

>>41857633
>Planning to eat ~4000-5000 calories/day

enjoy getting obese

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Tfw all the Tren and Dbol I could ever need but no test for a cycle and no money to buy it.

>>41857680
Not him, but would you get obese doing that if you're starting from a 6'4 142 lbs skelly, while taking 500mg of Test E for 16 weeks?

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>>41857323
>probably from childhood abuse from bipolars, where they would keep going from "loving" me to abusing me

I think that was a fear for this girl, she keeps to herself and doesn't seem to want and get close to anyone really but I honestly care about her, her pets, and their well-being and happiness.

I'd look into counciling or something to see if they can help you to think a different way. Gl breh.

>>41857707
I hear bimbs wouldn't mind doing a scene with you.

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>>41857649
0.5mg is the correct dose senpai

And might not be necessary if I don't have a bad reaction to the test. If my nips get sore or start itching I'll eat the fuck out of the pills, otherwise they'll never get used

>>41857948
Eh, I'd go for it. Wanna get huge.

>>41857973
>0.5mg is the correct dose senpai
no it's not lol

>>41857738
sorry we don't like dumb questions

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Sup degenerates?

>>41857973
>.5mg ed
>correct dose
maybe if you're also taking 100mg of dbol a day with your test

>>41857153
>roiding for this

>>41857170
more like please cut and then please eat

>>41854708
Are you not aware that I cry literally about everything?

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what's up fraud?

Been training since 2011, I reached a plateau where I need to really dedicate myself to gym and dieting in order to evolve, otherwise I get stuck where I'm at, a considerably good body 16" arms, 80kg at 178cm

My question to you guys is: should I roid low test doses to get where I would if I put time and effort on it?
It's really hard given my situation, living with parents, working 8 hour a day and college at night, the only time I really have is 1 and a half hour for gym

I thought about oxandrolone, dbol and injectable test
Should I go fraud?
which one should I go for?

>be 28, look very young for my age and gets asked if im a student, look younger than most college aged pakis and other foreigners
>cant hide whats inside

anyone here nearing their 30s and having an existensial crisis?

im still an immature child at heart and mind and cant accept growing up.

i want to be like enchanced athlete guys, havinv retarded hair dyes and just chilling around with fellow roiders. rich piana with all those retarded tats and hair styles and antics, big lenny and his autism crew etc.


i want to be a young rebel forever and just hope i get a heart attack in my 40s.

>tfw still can't go to gym
>but
>tfw kissed exgf
>and
>tfw seeing exgf and redhead girl Thursday for a good lunch

Fuck you /fraud/ all your shit about treating exgf like trash was wrong.

>>41858424
Post a pic of your body, I wanna see what a beta looks like
>inb4 you use the same excuse as you always do

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>>41857153
>roiding for this

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https://www.a1supplements.com/hi-tech-pharmaceuticals-dianabol

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>>41858474
Maybe that's not his final form?

>>41857153
I cannot imagine why you would have started taking roids. I'm bigger than you after 6 months lifting as an alcoholic with a poor diet.

so fucking stupid.

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>>41857153

>>41858506
post body fatass

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>>41858478
I love these fake steroids sounding supplement
>arimiplex
just lmao

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>>41858544
>ajuga
LMAO

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Tying gf up for the first time in a few hours lads

>>41858459
>inb4 I don't want to be doxxed

>>41858506

the worse your genetics are the more you should take them so you wont have to look so damn awful

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>>41858531

>>41858654
LOL nice 25% bf you got going there fucking fat retard. always the fat fucks who think they are "big"

which body do you think is gonna be more attractive to girls, your fat shit or his?

>>41858704
>6 months
>alcoholic
>shit diet

What did you expect me to be shredded? I have at least on par progress as you after 6 months and you are ROIDING.

Guarantee I will look better than you after a cut. Why the fuck would you roid and forget to eat you fucking moron? You are TINY and you have enough replies saying the same thing to know that I'm right.

I am just about CERTAIN my body is more attractive to girls because they always go after whoever looks bigger in clothes and at the end of the day barely give two shits about abs.

>>41858742
>alcoholic
>capable of a cut

yes jerry

>>41858704
my b thought you were >>41857153

my points still stand tho, that guy is an absolute moron.

>>41858756
alcoholic is an easier thing to say than "probably parties too much" so I said that. Don't actually have a (big) drinking problem.

>>41858742
in case you haven't noticed i referred to the other guy as "his" body so i am not him

enjoy deluding yourself being obese. reminds me of browsing reddit where they are all 30% bf powerlifters talking about all the fast food they eat.

yeah im sure theyre gonna go after the fat ass pig-faced alcoholic with a bulging gut tits and love handles instead of the guy with a lean face and body

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What would happen if I ran a 12week cycle of 500mg test?

>>41858780
haha okay well now you're just being ridiculous. My face is still lean as shit and I definitely don't have love handles (yet, guess that depends on much longer I bulk).

I've got a pretty cute gf so I'm not exactly worried on that front either.

Are you seriously trying to argue that that dudes body was worth roiding for? And can you really argue that my progress is not somewhere in the ballpark of his?

>>41858822
well you don't work out so you would pretty much just waste some money

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>>41858834

>>41856958
If she aint Karlie Kloss its a loss

>>41858822
have you considered lifting

>>41858848
thanks brah I'm aware that I don't have abs. There are no love handles there.

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>>41858654
Top
>>41857153
Bottom

>>41858834
>that guy who doesn't know what trt is posting in a steroids thread
go back to wherever you came from

>>41858846
>>41858859
I've started lifting, yes

>>41858872
Like a fucking drug (food) addict trying to justify it

Let's tell all those instagram fitness fags to gain 20% bf, people will find them more attractive since they will "look bigger in clothes"

>>41858906
when, last week?

can anyone tell me if nandrolone will help with depression? there is some evidence it might increase endorphins (and then another study says it might decrease), but im back on TRT and waiting for the good feels to kick in.

Was wondering if NPP could help me in my overall goals of achieving better performance and mental health. im so god damn anxious and depressed and unmotivated after quitting opiates. i cannot describe to you the emptiness i feel on the daily, its almost too unbearable and has me itching to use drugs again.

theres the camp that says get your mental shit in order before using gear but i know TRT makes me feel better, so im hoping to do anything that will help. hopefully training consistently will as well. as it stands i dont feel like my daily life is worth living like i am. my thoughts are insanely bad....

>>41858917
A couple months ago

>>41858981
come back in a year, babymuscles

>>41859006
Just tell me what will happen if I run a cycle

>>41859025
You will gain muscle

>>41858980
im replying to myself

the studies ive read say it increases depression and negative behaviour but thats by just running it alone, without Testosterone, which to me means that view and understanding is flawed.

i know Anavar makes me feel like a million
bucks. a normal dose of GH does too. just trying to get the info out there to help myself.

does anyone have a list of steroids theyve tried and how theyve felt on them?

Is any of dose of Tren bad news for mood?

>>41859063
Will it be worth it at my current stage?

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sure looks like summer in here.

>>41857170
>>41858244
>>41857217
>>41858180
>>41858474
retards

>>41857318
>>41857534
post pic big boys

>>41858506
dude you look like a fucking 20%bf sack of shit.
>be miserably low test
>get prescription testosterone
>WHY YOU ROIDING YOU RETARD

>>41859025
you may or may not gain muscle, it doesn't look like you know what you're doing so it's tbd

you will most likely hurt yourself

>>41858424
But when if it ends up not going how you want it, you will be pretty sad my dude. I was just browsing on social media today confirmed my ex is hooking up with my college roommate from last semester. Pretty fucked how I spend three years of my life with this girl only thing I did wrong was hide my roid use and she does this to me.

>>41859109
please eat

what are you, 130 pounds?

Fuck forgot my trip ^

>>41859101
Its always worth it, you probably wont make optimal gainz but still better than a natty cuck, also could fuck your tendons up

>>41859120
taco is that you

>>41859109
>oh no they don't see my body as muscular
>they must be retarded
You have barely any muscle. You're a twig and you took steroids for that small frame?

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>>41859136
>>41859124
classic fraud, get mires in /cbt/, get mires in gym.

but hell nao we all gotta be insecure fucks in fraud.

>>41859131
Okay ill do it

I want to get stronger using calisthenics and gain mass.
I am currently ~153lbs and 6 foot, BMI of ~20.5
I have some muscle and around 150% bodyfat (can see my upper abs, but I can't count them and I have more fat on my belly than anywhere else)
Is there really such thing as just 1 cycle and then stopping?
Will I have the self control, or will I crumble under the amazing power of joocyness?
Not a shitpost.

>>41855764
METHYLDROL D6? any takers on discussing?

>>41859151
Post results, i believe in you bb

>>41859164
Thank you

It'll only be a 12 week cycle so I'm not expecting big gains but ill see how it goes

>>41859147
you literally look worse than alex after 3 months of lifting dude

idk what you want, go get your pats on the back elsewhere.

>>41859156
Also, how about SARMs or orals?
I might not be down to take str8 aas because I am a pussybitch, but I'd be much more willing to take orals/sarms if they give good results.

>>41859175
Do 16 weeks, it time to get BIG

what's the difference between adding cardio and starving yourself? i feel too weak to do cardio if i starve myself but what's the point in doing it if I need to eat the calories that it burns back?

>>41859133
Yee
Also new girls ex just said he loved her and she's slipping away lol my life is a joke fuck me.

>>41859197
I want to recover easier

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I used to work at my local pharmacy so they all know me by name. What's some medication that normies inject that wont raise any red flags? I know they wont ask directly but women gossip. I actually have a TRT prescription but women are dumb and will think I'm on steroids which I am.

>>41859175
12 weeks is a waste

good weekend my new lady adores me

>>41859219
>that pic

It's not rape if he's rich and handsome. You all ought to know this by now.

looks like a few of you guys have been skipping your aromatase inhibitors

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>>41859147
>get mires in the gym

People are looking at you thinking "is that dude okay does he need me to buy him a cheeseburger?.."

>>41859217
4 more week will not make much of a difference for PCT, get the test for 16 week and see how you like it in week 12

>>41859230
is she a milf? seems like the natural conclusion of your mommy issues

>>41859250
nah about my age shell make a good milf tho tall thicc amazon

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>>41859272
When will you stop pretending to be 6'5"? Are you going to tell us your sister is 6 ft now?

>>41859245
Ok.

Will 40/40/20/20 nolva be ok? Not gonna use hcg

>>41859304
she's 5'10 lol

>>41859304
damn they are like twins bimbo would have made a great sissy

>>41859304
That's what he looks like? lol. he has such a baby face, the beard would be okay if it were thicker, but still baby as fuck.

>>41859304
you think they're standing up?

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>>41859316
In your dreams little guy

>>41859330
trip on bimbo

>>41859219
b12

well that was a thing #l8r doggies time 4 food

>>41859332
what makes bimbo so insecure to pretend to be 6'5"? he's obviously still tall at around 6'2" so why fraud?

>>41859312
Never done pct because blast and cruice is life but that seems okay and is what most people use

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>>41859323
Watch what you say kid.......................

>>41859396
am I suppose to be impressed babyface?

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>>41855764
Alright guys. Serious talk here.

I bought 3 vials of Tren E, 30 tabs of arimidex, and 30 tabs of nolva. I also bought 100 syringes with 23 g needles attached to pull with and 100 separate 23g needles to pin with (I got a good deal on the syringes).

My plan was this:
Week 1 - 10: 400mg test e (pin 200mg once on monday and 200mg once on friday)
Week 11 - 12:
Week 14-16: 40/40/20/20 on nolva

I'd do arimidex when needed.

BUT HERE'S MY PROBLEM. I'm a /biz/bro so I have about 70k of crypto sitting around which is why I bought the gear. It's a drop in the bucket for me, especially with the rather bullish market we are in.

However, I'm pussying the FUCK out. I don't know if I can bring myself to start my cycle. So I just have all this gear sitting around now.

What do? Should I make the leap and pin? I don't even know if my cycle is laid out properly. Should I sell it to some fag at my gym? Should I just dump it and forget about it?

Pls halp. My stats are babby-tier. I can do 1/2/3/4 all 5x5. I'm 195lbs at 6'0. Prob like 15% bf. Definitely not in top shape to do a cycle (or does it fucking matter)? Reading gear threads, cycle stories, comments on leddit are fucking draining me.

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>bimbo changed his instagram to private

Hey if this girl runs back to her ex someone come up with a cycle that will make me no longer dyel, I'll still eat like shit though so we'll have to compensate for that.

>>41859417
>23g

idiot

>pulling and pinning with separate needles, but same gauge

pussy. you think a 23g is gonna be dull after pushing it through some rubber? if you're worried about pain should have gotten 25g.

>Week 1 - 10: 400mg test

too short, test is at least 12 weeks and just run 500 you fucking faggot stop trying to be special

>>41859417
tl;dr version you're a pussy

do what you want we're not your mom

>>41859419
just inject 700mg of tren and eat whatever you wont get fat

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>>41859443
Tbqh senpai, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. Which is why the gear has been laying there for a week.

>too short, test is at least 12 weeks and just run 500 you fucking faggot stop trying to be special
This is what I've read. But I'm scared of fucking up.

>>41859445
Yes, essentially that is the tl;dr. I'm just trying to get some feedback senpai.

>>41859483
Just start pinning. It's not hard, you think the average roidhead is intelligent? You put the needle in your muscle and inject.

>>41859304
>>41859380
bimbo used to be 6'7
https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/29101562/#29112808

but then he shrank to 6'4 for 2 years
https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/29440686/#29441749
https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/35512157/#35518656
https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/38803402/#38803929

then he got taller again at 6'5. the miracles of steroids tbH

>>41859230
Huh? I thought you ghosted all your whores?

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>>41859559
Christ, how pathetic and insecure can one man be? If he's already tall why pretend to be a giant?

>>41859593
he has a tiny peepee its like 5 inches but he says its 7 inches and just looks small due to his 7 ft height

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>2017
>not having filtered the most useless people on 4chan

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If I build more muscle will it help hide my massive pores? Thinking of starting a cycle.

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>>41859559
why would he lie about his height while under tripfagging?

What an idiot

>>41859649
delete this

>>41859649
thats a nice pic

>>41859649
I want to cut this guy up

>>41859710
>this guy
um

>>41859777
For a 150mg/week cruise should I space it or just do the full 150?

Enanthate so long lasting ester

>>41859920
>>41859777
Didnt mean to reply

>>41859559
l e m a o

>>41859661
>>41859710
>>41859688
It's a sponge retards

>>41859621
I think you mispelt entertaining.

>>41859948
thanks einstein

Last year my cycle was Test E 250 E3D, but this year I went and got Test E 275. Should I stick with the same schedule or dial it back so I'm pinning every Monday and Thursday?

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I still don't understand why steroids and marijuana are illegal. This shit is nothing compared to meth, cocaine, or other hard ass shit fucked up drugs.

>>41860017

Lobbying. The entire practice should probably be made illegal, desu.

>>41860017
Steroids are illegal to protect professional sport profit (because John Citizen would like to think he could do that if he got off his lazy ass) also to keep it "fair". Because it would eventually become a pay-to-win ordeal.

>>41860051
why don't they just make steroids for the common people to be legal and for sport professionals make it illegal. Not that hard to do.

How do you tell objectively if you are just bloated or got fat from bulking? I keep making shit progress because I bulk for 2-3 months at most then start suicide cutting because I think I'm fat

Example, last "bulk" i weighed in up 20lbs in 8 weeks after a day of eating like shit. Started taking ai and eating a deficit, turned out only a couple days later i am up only 9lbs or so in the 8 weeks.

Is there a way to track bodyfat vs bloat from bulking?

>>41860062
Because why the fuck would anybody watch professional sport when Scotty down the road can beat every single one of them.

It would then create a blackmarket of betting and advertising on 'amateur' matches destroying official professional sport.

>>41860062

Back when it was made illegal the government and media spread a lot of the common misconceptions about steroids which still persist to this day. Steroids were scheduled because they convinced people they were dangerous. You can get them with a prescription, they're not treated like marijuana or heroin.

>>41860071

Make sure you're weighing yourself under very similar conditions every time. For instance, when you first wake up, after you piss/shit but before you eat or drink anything.

>>41860127
Always do that. Only when I wake up and I even log if I took a shit or not

>>41860152

I would also take into account the days leading up to your weigh in. If you know you've been eating like shit, it's safe to assume it's bloat.

Maybe don't even weigh yourself after you eat more than usual. That will obviously cause your weight to fluctuate.

If rape is so bad why do women fantasize about it? The truth is "rape" is just a word to describe unattractive males. If you're a rich chad you can force yourself on a woman and she will just call you "aggressive" and "dominant" and her panties will be dripping wet.

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> 1.5 weeks since i dropped to a cruise
> 3 disgusting crusty zits appear
> 0 zits on cycle
now i look like I'm roiding but im nearly natty

if i drop to cruise and start 350mg tren, is that considered blasting again?

>>41860265
jerry you forgot your trip

Started 200tren 500test again
Easily my favourite way to blast
It's not extreme but it's also enough to give that feel of being unstoppable

>>41860289
>4chan file name
Almost got me.

>>41860369
>200 tren

whats the point

>want to see my monthly movie with gf
>every movie out is shit except for wonder woman and I don't want to subject my gf to feminist propaganda

Jews are really slipping lately.

>>41860399
wonder woman is good

>>41860399
Pirates is okay.

>>41860449
Wonder woman is shit.

>>41860399
It's not too terrible.

>>41860462
stfu you haven't seen it

>>41860387
>implying that taking 3grams of tren over ~4 months is different to 3grams of tren over 1.5months
I'm about those solid gains anon, not trying to get big quick

>>41859304
Tfw no bimbo sister gf

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>>41860399
>He won't let his girl see Wonder Woman because he is too insecure to allow her to see a movie that promotes equality in some way.


Stay omega.

>>41860473
I have seen it. The only cool thing is the WW1 setting. The entire fucking plot makes no sense

>Hurr man created good
>Made evil by Ares
>Wonder Woman destroys Ares because she thinks that will stop man from being shit
>Man is still shit
>So Ares was right
>Wonder Woman is ultimately a fucking dumbass throughout the entire fucking movie
>HURR YOU'RE A BUNCH OF COWARDS FOR WANTING TO SIGN AN ARMISTICE AND NOT RISKING MILLIONS MORE LIVES ON THE VERY VERY SLIGHT CHANCE OF THIS GAS BEING DEPLOYED

Fuck you, you have fucking shit taste in movies.

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>>41860484
They look happy, it's kinda heartwarming to see him being a good brother and having her (presumably) look up to him.

>>41860488
Feminism is code for destruction of the family.

>>41860479
>implying that taking 3grams of tren over ~4 months is different to 3grams of tren over 1.5months

it is

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>>41860488

>>41859649
wtf happened here?

>>41860758
It's not a person. Probably spongy bread or something.

>>41860536
Not if I'm taking the same amount of tren at the end of the day
Is still the same amount, just over a different period.

>>41860771
nope

>>41860771
Take 50g of tren in one day for 2 years of results dude!!!

>>41860784
>>41860867
Well fuck, guess I should have been pinning 1G of tren daily for those top notch gains.
Fucking wasted my time taking tren in the past

>>41860090
How delusional are you that you truly believe steroids win sports?

You think you can just hop on gear and learn and practice the dedication to become a world ranking fighter or boxer or football player?

My god, some of you dudes are deluded. You can take all the gear in the world and not become a champion. Steroids will help these people gain that last percentage to tip the tables their way, but alone won't win shit.

>>41861047
Holy shit you're dumb and completely missed the point.

please post I have no friends

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HELLO?

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>>41861706
>>41861781
why don't you have friends anon?

everyone needs friends

>>41861781
>>41861706
Here have a blog post faggot

>Redhead girl is feeling sad because life
>Told her we're going out
>Plan on just walking by the riverside, getting gelato and just talking

Is this something that would cheer a girl up?

>>41860488
You mean alpha.
The sexes aren't equal. Get over it.

>tfw some lifts are now limited by my shitty grip
It's not even the grip that is the main cause, it's the calluses that causes so much pain I can't keep the grip.
>you're holding the bar wrong to get calluses
Of course I am, but holding it 'correctly' further out in the hand provides an even worse grip

>>41862047
Get some chalk or straps or if you're really gay, gloves.

>>41862047
Hook grip

>>41862047
Are you one of those people who roid but have skelly tier forearms?

>>41857050
This.
I'm so sick of this boreds fascinationwith gyno. No-one IRL actually cares except if you have actually dropping tits.

>>41855794
Use dat der celltech and you can dirty bulk on 10k calories and be under 2% bf the whole way up

>>41862325
t. gyno

>>41862325
We're bodybuilders you dumb fuck. You're on the wrong board if you're sick of a bodybuilders fascination with extreme vanity.

>>41856958
I'd murder someone if I got to fuck Virgo Peridot.

You couldn't pay me enough to fuck a skelly like Tay Sway.

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>compliment a dude's physique in a movie
>gf thinks I'm gay

>>41862359
That's pretty gay dude.

>>41862364
You don't mire other shirtless dudes? What are you a faggot...

>>41862131
Chalk works for grip but tries hands out even more causing more pain and worse overhand grip. Tried gloves some time ago and they would just cause my grip to slip because of their looseness. Maybe I bought shitty ones.
>>41862185
I've always hook gripped without thinking about it, for pretty much everything
>>41862289
Nuh uh they're pretty proportional to everything else and I occasionally do the bar rope roll exercise

Been on 50mg ED Tren A for 5 days. Nips sore already ffs. 0.25 caber E3D enough to manage?
(Stayed at cruise test, E2 perfect.)

>>41862359
Man did you forget to say no homo after miring him? Gotta remember that

>>41862382
you probably already had dormant gyno

I'm on 400-500 depending on my mood a week and I didn't fall for the caber meme

my nips are perky I even told my gf to suck on them and try to get milk and nothing

>>41862391
>everything I can't afford is a meme

>>41862391
Yeah, pubertal gyno. Been there forever.

No liquid (yet?) haven't been on the tren for even a week. Sore as fuck though, gotta sort it out.

>>41862408
It only makes you lactate if you have high estrogen. For example Crusader is a crybaby pussy so it's clear his estrogen was high and thanks why prolactin made him lactate.

If you're not running an aromatizing compound with Tren you wont lactate.

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>>41857077
How does it feel, i never loved someone. Beside myself

>>41857153
>trt
>looking better and better
>blasting test/mast
HAHAHAHHAHA

im doing tren my first cycle, week 3 and people are already asking if im on steroids

started as dyel and already doubled all my lifts

>>41862419
Hey, I'm not lactating anymore and I cried harder than I ever have in my life yesterday.

>>41862484
how much tren/week?
how much test base?
how long lifting before?
starting bf%?

depending on how DYEL you were, doubling your lifts may mean something unimpressive or something impressive

>tfw live 2 miles from city centre but i work somewhere 3 mins walking distance away
>tfw no mcdonalds or burgerking nearby
>tfw if i want to get some shit there its like 40 mins overall navigating + parking and gas

fuck me i just want to triple stack a double cheesburger/chicken burger with only 2 buns.

and yes i can fucking make a burger with way better macros for cheaper but thats not the fucking point.

>>41862594
>40 mins to drive two miles there and back

yurocuck?

>>41862047
i always try to do double overhand (no thumbs) if that fails use chalk if that fails with thumb, if that fails mixed grip if that fails straps. gloves dont work
i kept my grip strength relativly good in ra ge of my actual strenght. straps are only needed at 90%+ rma double overhand fails at 70%

also get a wrist roller and do some forearm excercises / double overhand straightbar curls n stuff

>>41862484
ur lifts must've been weak as whack if u doubled them in 3weeks roflmao

>>41858587
Update - I did and it was pretty cool desu

Thanks bimbo for recommending a double column tie ages ago

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Parents suspect that i am using steroids, and my mom keeps talkin about enlarged heart and increased risk of heart problems from test...i looked it up and it appears to be true, but i dont really see anyone mention it or make warning of it in my prior research? is there something im missing?

>>41861781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vbo4F6lS7w

>>41863035
Using steroids can be hard on the heart.

Just gotta accept it m8.

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>>41863035
>mom
how old are you? I don't think you should be posting or even lurking on 4chan let alone doing steroids.

>>41863035
thats why you are supposed to keep up on your cardio to keep your hearth healthy and minimise risks of exploding.

see
>>41863229
probably true
you must have done A LOT OF RESEARCH BEFORE INJECTING if you need your mom to point out some risks

>>41862484
doubling my lifts would put me over eddie hall deadlift worldrekord lel that would be something.

i guess if you doubled your deadlift in 3 weeks you probably did 40kg you weak fuck

but thats quite in range for a "muh watching diet and training an extra day" excuse

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>>41857153
there's my favourite faggot - please give out more steron advice oh wise one.

remember kids, THIS is giving you advice on /fraud/

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>>41858424
>blogs on taiwainese carpet bagging forum in the bathtub chemical general for relationship advice
>guys what you told me to do didn't work!

really gets the noggin joggin

>>41859147
>get mires in /cbt/, get mires in gym.

delusional

>>41859230
Is this the one you got the hotel with while getting tattooed? Also, post new tattoo pics pls

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>>41863035
>these are the people giving advice about steroids

Does pinning give your more energy? Like Do you feel more jacked up like ball of rage and test. That's what I am after that 18yo feeling again.

>>41863689
not necessarily, if you are lazy and don't know/want to do stuff with your life it won't change that. if you are already kinda pumped and positive it CAN increase that.
kinda like most drugs it enhances the mood you are in.

although if you are in the gym and don't feel it you still power through it and at the end you wonder how the fuck did you just did a new pr and how fast the time passed

>>41863650
LOL and he somehow got the balls to tell everyone he roids and showing that pic. Gotta respect him for that. GOT SOME NERVES, mirin

>but muhhh miresss

Compared to normies i look like ronnie coleman
>>41863633
enjoy the little things in life. If you don't have much, you will enjoy the little things more like him.

he just got a kiss from a girl and he now thinks he's officially not gay(in his mind). let's lower us to his level and be happy for him.

>>41858424
Wow such achievement for kissing your ex gf.

>have friend, see him take pill every few hours
>he's all secretive and mysterious about it
>"he he, it's my """vitamins""" ;^)
>finally ask about it, I'm pretty sure it's dbol
>he admits it's some ginseng oyster extract pill for test

HOW DO I HELP MY BUDDY QUIT THE SAUCE???

>>41863229
ive been at college and had to move back home while i find a new place to live, im 23. Ive done alot of research and new it was hard on the heart, but this was the first time i heard specifically about the enlarge heart

>>41863749
Yea I am already jacked up usually and early morning riser type. But as I have gotten older, close to thirty, I will have a week or two here and there where I just don't feel myself. No energy or drive and shit. Like my levels get low for a little idk. Maybe I just getting older

>>41863922
your "research" was all of five minutes right

left ventricular hypertrophy. look it up.

>>41864001
Yeah i did look it up you fuckin dweeb, seems everyone that was studied ended up with a larger heart, more confused as to why its not really talked about very often in the community.

>>41864062
it is. all the goddamn time. do your cardio

>>41864062
What do you want to talk? It's just a fact of steroid use

how quick does raloxifene take to get rid of titty pain

>>41864129
Never if you don't remove the source of the titty pain. Nolva will help more than anything if you're still on cycle. Or up your AI

i am in the middle of my cut, sitting at 18% 102kg. now we decided on holiday in croatia in 4 weeks
according to my progress so far and some optimistic calculations i should be at about 14% when the beach is near. it probably doesnt make sense over 10% to use some winny or tren or mast to get some aesthetic gains right?
only chance i got is to shred off as much as possible
>inb4 fat fuck
>inb4 started to late
>inb4 kys

still have some dnp but can't go full on NEET mode and burn my brains off 150mg for 2 weeks might be a good idea?

>>41864179
Don't use gear until you're 8-10%
150 is pussy dose that's only like a 16% increase in bmr. It's like you don't even want to cook yourself.

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God the fucking diuretic properties of mast combined with muh prostate made me get up 3 times last night to piss. I should probably stop drinking water like an hour before bed.


>>41862439
>How does it feel, i never loved someone. Beside myself
Feels good breh, makes you feel a little more complete.

>>41864215
>that pic
Why can't I have that happiness? Why didn't I marry her..
Looks like I need to crash my estro, can't handle these feels

>>41864212
on trt cause my balls don't work anymore probably also the reason why i am that fat and got girly fat distribution

still helps though would be like 45min cardio more a day (already do 60min a day)

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>>41864235
You don't need to marry someone to be happy and there's no reason you can't be.

>>41864215
oh you added mast to your larping stack

what's the dosage, 3g/week?

>>41864313
>still dream about my 4yr ex from 5 years ago
Yeah, I'll never be happy again

>>41861812
Eating snacks with Azusa at Lawsons!

>>41864544
>Lawsons
Have you tried their fried chicken bites?

tfw live in Japan and fraud is legal, imported raws, customs questioned me about what the strange powder hidden in other packaging was but it was okay when I told them what it was.

>>41859188
>MIsread this and thought it said "I might not be down to take str8 ass"

Anyway, consensus in these threads is usually "SARMS are garbage, oral only cycles are stupid, just get over your fear of needles and you'll be fine."

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>>41864357
Frontloading 800 but I'll keep it at like 300 afterwards as I didn't get that much.

>>41864486
That's on you then to drop it and move on. No wonder you're not happy.

>>41864544
>Tfw the best convenience stores we have are 7-11 and Wawa.

When will it be our turn for a truly superior Japanese store? Im not even a weeb but they have some good clean stores over there.

New girl giving her ex a month to figure out his feelings. What do I do keep seeing her or cut it off?

>>41864677
lol you're literally the backup plan

don't you have any self-respect?

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>>41863897
Sounds like he's already lost in the sauce m8

>>41864677
Well, you lose everything you worked for if you cut it off now. Why throw it away on a 50/50 chance?

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>not an injection day

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>>41864677
If your girl is giving her ex even the slightest bit of a chance, you need to dump her ass. Even if she stays with you over him, how do you know she won't leave you for someone better later on down the road?
She doesn't respect you, so if you sit here and let her do this shit then you're a pussy bitch. Break it off.

>>41864812
>Lose everything you worked for
If it's this easy for her to consider leaving him, she wasn't worth the effort in the first place.

>>41859188
LGD-4033 is great, you can run it with test your entire blast or cycle in addition to oral steroids, its not too bad oral only, itll treat you a lot better than oral only steroid cycles too. But I recommend taking test with it.

Ostarine isnt very strong at all, but it is great for healing, something LGD never did for me. Looks like it can also lower SHBG like LGD so can also amplify your exogenous test dosage.

S23 Havent tried S23, apparently like stronger S4 without the sides and plenty of aggression. I think it should be quite strong, since it was intended as a male contraceptive (like trest).

LGD-3303 shorter half life than 4033 (should dose multiple times per day), but supposedly stronger and feels the most like test, havent tried it, want to. Apparently makes women horny af as well.

RAD140 havent tried, not sure if cbf, from what Ive read about it I would only take it with test.

YK11 is a steroidal sarm, though its anabolic signalling is extremely weak if existent at all. Oral only may be less suppressive than LGD or even Osta only for that reason, ymmv. Works by apparently being a legit myostatin inhibitor, sounds like a good addition to test/roids.

AUSRM-057 is a transdermal sarm thats self proclaimed in a study to be very strong, no idea dont think anyone has tried it.

Many sarms also appear to be neuroprotective, prostate protective (prevents and inhibits cancer though not curing/destroying existing cancer without other treatments - there is a sarm that does though, none of the above though), SHBG lower, LGD-4033 lowers triglycerides, may even be scalp protective from DHTs.
1/2

>>41864824
You realize you can inject as frequently as you want? And that it will result in stable blood levels and less aromatization and sides?

I still can't believe dudes shoot 2ml+ of steroid into their butt with massive needles when you can subq everyday with an insulin pin. It is safer and better in every way.

>>41864749
>>41864766
>>41864812
It's funny because I'm pretty successful compared to this grown ass man with no future and I am sort of the back up plan, life's weird. But he broke up with her now he wants her back she says wait a month to see if it's real. Idek what to do.

>>41859188
>>41864840
2/2


There's study of a shit tonne of unavailable sarm compounds that were identified, some of them look exceptionally strong, not available on the market yet, but I hope Mr Chinaman obliges and produces the strongest some day.

Full text of said study:
https://ufile.io/lipnl
Non-sarms that get thrown in the same category / other PEDs

MK-677 - GH secretagogue - stimulates ghrelin which raises GH and eventually IGF-1, gives increased hunger and sleep gains.

There is another one that is better called Anamorelin, more expensive and less sources though.

GW-501516 - Lowers cholesterol and blood pressure, significant boost to cardio, helps burn fat for energy. Looks like a match made in heaven for Tren.

Studies showed cancer at all doses in rats and mice, with the lowest dose tested being only twice the equivalent dose people tend to take with it. Though with the years its been out and people using it no one has reported cancer, no media or news reports or anything of the sort of a sudden increase in cancer related to ped usage. Also seems to reverse some types of cancer in human cell lines in another study.

ITPP - myo inositol trispyrophosphate. Releases more oxygen from red blood cells. Great cardio enhancer, changes the boundary between aerobic and anaerobic, so your anaerobic limit/wall may be higher as well. This may also make cancer treatments like chemo more effective as cancer doesnt do well in high oxygen environments, which ITPP increases, so most likely inhibits or slows regrowth between treatments.

Formoterol - Asthma medication - increases strength / muscle growth through different pathways than steroids - conclusion was most likely due its modification of leucine metabolism.

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>>41864850

>>41864129
Less than a week. Don't listen to the other guy. You can let your estrogen ride a little high while on a SERM. Just remember to dial down the aromatizing steroid when you come off Ralox.

You don't NEED an AI. There's some benefit to using a SERM to control gyno. It has to be an ongoing thing though.

>>41864851
Women are weird man. Last girl I was with left me and ended up getting with a 20 year old art school dropout with no job, then bragged to me about how much better he was.

Moral of the story is that women don't know what they want. But sitting there helplessly while she chooses between the two of you like choosing between two food items on the McDonald's dollar menu is a shitty idea, because it shows you have no self respect.

Just break up with her. You can find a better grill that's not gonna try to have her cake and eat it too.

>>41863922
Most athletes get enlarged hearts anyways. Irresponsible gear usage will make it worse. Take telmisartan and control your BP.

>>41857153
I spent the last half decade as a smack addict and I still am less skelly. Learn to train and eat fuckboy. You look like you need a father.

>>41856934
Just take raloxifene 60-120mg a day, split dosing ideally. Three months of that will help a lot. Even if you don't care about the look of your chest your nips must be sensitive.

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>>41864916
>telmisartan
I'm kinda pissed the telmisartan I bought from turkey has hctz or whatever in it also and it wasn't listed on the website. Fucking roaches.

>>41864901
Last girl leaves me because of hiding roids new girl potentially leaves me for a loser with no future, l probably ride the month out because I hate myself.

>>41863922
>>41864001
>>41864916
memed

>Nearly all of the cases of sudden death of bodybuilders in the medical literature show that excessive use of diuretics is the culprit, not anabolic steroids.

Simply lifting heavy weights for years will lead to an enlarged heart. Most researchers agree that it’s not a pathological change and is different from the heart enlargement caused by such conditions as high blood pressure and heart failure, in which a weakened heart enlarges to compensate for compromised function.

Isolated animal heart-cell studies show that high doses of anabolic steroids result in the heart cell’s killing itself. Structural studies show that steroids cause detrimental changes in the mitochondria and heart-muscle cells like those seen in heart failure. Harmful changes are not directly due to the steroids themselves but rather to the fact that they inhibit enzymes that break down deoxycorticosterone, a mineralocorticoid released from the adrenal gland that can lead to higher blood pressure and water and sodium retention—all of which can damage the heart.

http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/the-case-of-the-big-hearted-bodybuilder/

>>41864891
You're an idiot. So are most of the people giving advice in here. TRT clinics are pushing self admin subq over IM shots. Studies show it works.

Maybe learn to think critically instead of following advice of retards blindly.

>>41864979
It's actually a better combo than telmisartan alone. What's your problem with it?

Micardis is one of the best life extension drugs available desu.

>>41864677
>>41864812
SUPER cuck power FUSION GO.

this is so cute.

>>41864995
So, thanks for confirming what I said. Some of you guys are fucking retarded. Do you not read the things you copy an paste?

/Fraud/ is an absolutely terrible place to get gear advice. For anyone reading this I hope you have good critical thinking skills if you are trying to learn here.

>>41864891
Ive subq 1ml often in abdomen. Works fine, do get a lump but they dont last that long, so I dont care.

>>41865036
The oil lump isn't a big issue if your brewer makes a low viscosity solution. The test cyp I brew hangs around for a couple days. If you are a super lean competitive bodybuilder it will look bad, but for most folks it's the best way.

1ml is too much anyways. Split your dose to daily so you only inject a minute amount. On TRT I take 0.1ml a day. There's no issue with lumps.

>>41865030
Are you dumb? Enlarged heart for different reasons, essentially opposing athletes heart, it would probably prevent you getting from athletes heart and cardio with steroids would offset either type. Also looks like a non issue with steroids and ceases with usage, and not to do directly with steroids, nor was heart failure.

The main issue was high BP, sodium and water retention it says, if youre not having those issues, then youre not going to be having those problems.

Theyre completely different reasons and effects of an enlarged

>>41864997
protip: don't inject aas other than test subq

>>41864997
TRT is less oil volume, okay for cruising not for blasting dummy

>>41865069
Fuck you are annoying. I said keep BP in check. You're analyzing one comment and acting like I explained an incorrect position. What is wrong with you?

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>>41865008
I don't really want to take a diuretic because I'll probably have to watch my electrolytes pretty closely so I don't die.

>>41865017
Hey man fuck off just because you're big doesn't mean you have to be a dick lol.

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>>41864997
>you're an idiot for accepting that IM injections have been proven as effective for literally decades when it comes to self-administration

>>41864997
>>41865074
oh and trt vs blast is a huge difference

they don't tell you to inject subq daily, absorption is incredibly slow. you would run out of sites after a couple of days.

you also shouldn't inject much more than about .5ml per subq site

>>41865074
All gear works fine subq. Tren ace everyday subq is an easy way to cycle.

I'm going to quit replying now. What a terrible place to learn this is.

>>41865101
The question is why? Short esters you pin frequently IM anyway, what's this benefit you're claiming to subq vs IM? I just don't understand the logic at all

>>41865089
we don't day this out of hate man, it's just a very literal cuck thing to do... your girl is telling you in clear terms that she'll dump you if her ex wants her back.

I understand you've had a rough couple of months but goddamn dude... come on. pick yourself up.

>>41865093
Wow, just wow. Have fun relying on outdated forum info. You guys are horrible.

>>41865097
You're advocating for something I have no problem with yet for some reason downplaying an easier and safer method for most people. OK.

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>>41865113
>you're all wrong but ((they)) say I'm right and explaining what the fuck I'm talking about would reveal I don't know what I'm talking about so bye!

:^)

>>41865089
Just because your girl is gonna cuck you doesnt mean you have to be a KEK, drop that bitch and become BIG

>>41865127
you're simply wrong about subq injections, I'm not "downplaying" anything.

subq is fine for trt and even then it's not daily injections (link me one study or any kind of recommendation from a reputable source that says this). past baby doses you simply shouldn't do subq injections, it's that simple.

happy your subq trt is going great though, come see us when you're injecting 6ml a week

>>41865111
You're asking what the benefit of a smaller gauge needle injected daily into subq with minimal risk for hitting a vein and creating less scar tissue is over the more invasive IM?

Do you know there are studied cases of oil embolism causing severe respiratory effects in steroid users? Shooting IM frequently will ensure that one day, over the years, you'll likely experience it.

I've experienced a water based peptide shot IM into a vein by accident. It was not something id recommend. Can't imagine what an oil would have done.

1ml is fine with me, and its test E 300mg/ml. I dont have an issue with it, and release doesnt seem any slower, long esters appear the same, very short esters might hang around a bit longer before full release.

>>41865074
Tren burned like a cunt for a long time, touching the site hurt, I think it may have crashed in depot, may also be high solvent.

Home brew other aas should be fine though since you can control your solvents and keep it from crashing. Low ba and high bb should stop that and also not be painful.

>>41865113
>Unironically using "Wow, just wow"

>>41864993
Don't do this to yourself man, it's pathetic. Not trying to be mean but come the fuck on, it's better to be alone than with a cunt my dude. If she's willing to drop you for a loser, then she's a loser. And if you stick with her, then you're a loser too.

Also if she's giving him a serious chance and ends up staying with you, I'm sure she'll fug him while ya'll are together anyway.

>>41865156
If you had a brain you'd know why subq ED is superior for testosterone or any aromatizing compound.

I'm not a fool who needs grams of gear to perform so shooting large volume of oil isn't an issue. 6ml hey? You the next Boston Lloyd?

>>41865189
Keep up the baiting, you're pretty good at it.

>>41865238
I'm being serious. People use way too much gear. I can make consistent gains on 140mg test cyp and 20mg anavar.

Judging by pics and attitudes here, y'all could replace those grams with better training and intensity, diet and rest. You don't want to hear that though.

I'm not even a bodybuilder yet I have more muscle than guys running big cycles.

>>41865296
Post pic

>>41865296
>trt tier
>20mg anavar
>gains

You were born a woman, right?