so what's the consensus, is this kid natty?
>>41854840
Judging form this picture:
Definitely possible.
There are blacks that look bigger than that and don't even lift.
Consensus doesn't mean accurate. also, who cares.
>>41854854
i just wanna hear some opinions, there's no way to know for sure, but people could offer some thoughts as to whether he's on gear or not.
Looks natty to me
>>41854840
No he is not you stupid faggot
If you look at his face you can see he has womanlike genetics and the natural test levels of a 12 year old girl
Without roids that fuccboi wouldnt surpass 1pl8 bench
>>41854840
Depends on years training and numbers.
Its not impossible, but I doubt it judging from how young he looks
>>41854840
Maybe coming out of his moms womb
>>41854840
Holy fuck, get some Emilio Pucci on that guy and we can have a Part 3 Live Action JoJo.
>>41854840
the pic of him at 14 is jeff seid tier
>>41854840
He isnt big, just really cut, looks good, I think he is natty
Kids numbers are insane. 325 bench 405 squat 635 deadlift it's questionable
>>41855012
All legit lifts?
Then that's indeed surprising regarding his leanness.
But he doesn't have the typical roider mark - bench isn't his strongest lift.
That makes it a lot more legit.
Training age?
>>41855035
He's 19, says he's been training since he was 14. He was dl 500 by 16
>>41854840
Where does he lift? California ?
I always hear lots of good signs to check if someone is natty or on roids in this thread, sadly I don't remember except, looking at his shoulders/traps, and the overall definition, I'd say no.
>>41854885
Also this.
>>41854870
Actually, you can tell with a high certainty, and many people on /fit/ have seen countless bodies and could probably accurately tell.
His face ruins his body
>>41855087
he's from new jersey
These are puberty gains , when you go thru puberty and you lift this is really achieveable puberty is like a super steriod
>>41854912
20 years old, 6'2 185, 315 bench, 450 squat, 635 deadlift. Been training for 5 years.
He's not that big he just has a super low bodyfat
4-5%?
>>41855105
Kek, it actually makes quite a difference.
>>41855105
Agreed. It looks like someone put the wrong head on his body.
>>41854840
The fact that some of the guys in his immediate circle of friends who he lifts with 100% are on gear, leads me to believe he probably isn't natty.
Also the fact that he's really strong for always having been ripped. When I played football there were guys as strong as him but they sure as hell didn't weigh 185 and they sure as hell weren't that lean.
Body goal right there
>prettyboy fashion model face on a huge jacked body
Looks so weird.
>>41855340
Really? I think it looks fucking beautiful. Looks like perfection. Youthful but masculine, like a young hero.
>>41855340
He's gorgeous
>>41855376
>>41855397
>>41855340
If he got an adult's haircut, he'd improve drastically.
>>41855122
fuck.... offf... you broscience shithead... can you even hear the words that are coming out of your mouth?!
>>41854840
Why do you actually give a shit?
>>41854852
How delusional do you have to be
>>41854840
is that possible natty?
yes
is he natty?
no
You guys are all coping for your shit genes. Have you seen his videos? Yes hes fucking natty
>>41857172
Op here I am 1000% positive I'm stronger than you and look better than you faggot your dick probably looks like a candy cane u fat neck