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>>41845828
Why are vegans annoying faggots?

You won't change any minds this way. You need to refrain until you come up with a more effective strategy.

>If you believe humans are not herbivores
>humans eat meat
>by definition not an herbivore

you dumb

Im pretty sure other primates hunt and eat other animals....

Why are vegans so against humanity's biological design?

>>41845828
Our teeth, gut bacteria, gut bacteria placement in the gi tract and the construction of our gi tract ALL point to humans being omnivore. Learn some biology before you go full retard

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>>41845828
>Humans aren't actually biologically omnivores
>173 subscribers, 8 videos, one on the new world order and satanism

Remind me why I should care what this nobody thinks about anything at all?

>>41845867
first world privilege

>>41845881
>placement in the gi t
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>>41845867
>>41845851
>>41845849
>>41845842
>>41845888

Thank you for the bumps, trolls.
Keep them coming.

>>41845888
I knew a brazilian girl who'd normally be an 8/10 qt but was somehow vegan. Although she ate like a horse. She still was auschwitz mode.

>>41845896
If humans have canines and forward facing eyes like predators why are they designed to eat plants?
carnivores 9999
faggots 0

>>41845828
If I'm lost then put me on a milk carton and leave me alone. I don't want to be found

>>41845896
Herbivore, omnivore and carnivore have the gut bacteria placed different within the bowels. Look it up. They alsp have different kinds of bacteria and different enzymes to break down food. Which is why we know humans are omnivore

>>41845945
We have gut bacteria that can break down fat and protein. If it comes from an animal there will be a high cost to the body for it, the same as it would be to any omnivore.
All of these arguments against us being herbivores but no falsification.
We have lots of traits SPECIFICALLY for the digestion of plants.
We can eat only plants and don't need to eat anything from an animal.
Conversely, we have NO traits specifically for the digestion of meat.
We CANNOT eat only animal products and NOT eat plants, except for maybe under special circumstances, and even then we pay with our lives.

>>41846090
* the same as it would be to any herbivore
I meant to type herbivore
not omnivore.

I only eat wild elk meat from Bucks in their prime and vegetables plus eggs;also hens all grown in my property. Normies at the gym awe at my caveman gainz sipping their amphetamine shakes and poison preworkouts

>>41845828
I can only eat meat if it's marinated in vegan herbs..i think he's right

>>41846694
>pol
>>41846617
Golems of the cult of Saturn, all of you
Flesh robots following (((doctor's))) orders. Making them and (((Wall St))) rich.

>>41846090
Sources:
>meatismurder.blogspot.com
>thevegancuckold.tumblr.com
>www.alternativescience.com
>www.reddit.com/r/vegansjws

>>41846771
I don't need a mountain of troll noise.
Just give me the falsifiable trait that puts us beyond herbivores.
I'll give another falsification the omnivore vs herbivore argument the omnivore argument dies on... We can't deal with uric acid.

>>41846858
>the falsifiable trait
>implying there's only one

We survive just fine eating both vegetable matter and animal tissue. We are by definition omnivores.

>>41845919
/thread

>>41846858
>We can't deal with uric acid.
And that isn't true.

If it was, every human in the world would have gout.

>>41846771
Kek

>>41847138
Incorrect. It stands to reason someone who thinks they are an omnivore wouldn't know how to reason.
Omnivores and carnivores have an ENZYME that deals with uric acid. We don't.
We don't survive 'just fine' on animal parts. Read a non animal ag funded study. Vegans have the only normal BMI. Vegan men have 10 to 15% HIGHER levels of testosterone.
Vegans live the longest, have the lowest rates of disease. Lowest cholesterol.
Short of meat eating humans dropping dead on the spot at 20 nothing will convince people like you, but you'll just call that cancer or a genetic defect when it happens.

>>41845828
>more retarded vegan trolling
YOU HAVE TO GO BACK: >>>/b/

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>>41845919
>>41847106
>Eyes
Forward facing eyes were developed because we descended from tree dwelling frugivores, who need to focus on the next branch to grab. You can also look at your thumbs, they are different from a lion's or wolf's in that they face the other fingers.
In contrast, grass grazing land mammals have eyes to the sides to avoid predators. This isn't much of an issue when you are hanging 20 m from the ground and see everything
>canines
Pic related.
It is beyond laughable to suggest that humans are omnivores because X physiological trait, when we have terrible sprinting speed, claws, teeth, tolerance for raw or rotten meat, weak skin, etc

We are indeed omnivores, in the sense that we don't immediately get encephalopathy when we eat a burger. We evolved the way we did because we managed to survive on any available food source. We still get heart disease, which true omnivores like domesticated dogs don't get because their intestinal tract is optimised to push meat out fast. Have you ever heard anyone taking their dog to the vet for a heart bypass surgery?
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>>41845849
Dunno, I thought the pig castration scene was gut churning. It was on par with the drug cartel decapitation webms on /b/

>>41847225
>We don't.
ya, we have kidneys.

And it is a stupid argument to try to make.
>some meat has high uric acid
>eventually can lead to gout
>therefore we shouldn't eat any meat.
How many plants would kill you if you eat them?

>>41845828
what is your problem with death?

You will also die, do you think you are immune to the suffering of slaughtered pigs?

Why are you feeling guilty for something that you will likely experience yourself, are you that detached from reality?

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>>41847275
The trolling is all on the gluton, golem's side.
It's as if you dumb dumbs are on an anti cancer board ranting about the virtues of smoking and asbestos.
You animal eater's desks.

>>41847366

I eat meat. I'm not fat because I eat lean meat and I don't eat huge amounts of it. Meat isn't killing me. I don't care if an animal dies so I can eat it. Everything dies. At least that cow who died so I could have steak for supper served a greater purpose in death than he ever could in life. You will not be eaten by anything that matters when you die. You serve no purpose in life or death, except to feed worms and bacteria.

>>41847406
Are those piss bottles? Kek
And what's with the cig butts on the kb? Who does that?

>>41847400
I don't go for the golem nutrition or the golem psychology, pleb.
Your argument is the same as being pro cigarettes or crack.
It's a fitness board you're on.

>>41845828
post body

Less plants would be killed by veganism since you have to grow much less to feed the animals you'd be eating. But plants are not beings like animals anyways so it doesn't really matter how many die outside of the waste.

>third vegan shill thread on the front page
go fuck yourself faggot

>>41847396
It's not just gout. It's the fact we have no mechanism to deal with it. Omnivores and carnivores do.
Same situation with Iron and Vitamin A from animal foods. We can't deal with it and they non herbivores have traits specifically in them biologically to deal with them.
There isn't an argument after this other than deciding not to be fit. But then why would you be in a fitness bulletin board?

>>41847418
Your arteries are narrower. That means less blood to the brain and man parts.
Also, I have higher testosterone but feel free to let yourself go. Do drugs too.
I don't really care about animals dying either. Man is lord of the earth.
I just know it's a good way to open minds.

>>41847418
>I eat meat.
Ok
>I'm not fat because I eat lean meat and I don't eat huge amounts of it.
I never claimed meat makes you fat.
>Meat isn't killing me.
"I smoke 3 packs a day and don't have cancer yet!"
>I don't care if an animal dies so I can eat it.
Don't pretend you don't feel the tiniest bit of empathy from the decapitations and castrations in your video
>Everything dies.
Nihilism is a meme, get a hobby
>At least that cow who died so I could have steak for supper served a greater purpose in death than he ever could in life.
Okay, many mistakes
>Purpose
What if I rape your sister and comfort you by saying that she satisfied my dick?
>It's not the same you psycho, animals are not humans
I know. I didn't say cows should get the right to drive cars, get jobs, pay taxes and vote. But they deserve to just be left alone.
>Yeah well animals are dumb so they don't matter
What about humans with Down's? Or even better, humans in a coma? Are they ok to eat?
>No, because they are H U M A N S you psycho
Well what is it that makes animals deserving of pain?
>You will not be eaten by anything that matters when you die. You serve no purpose in life or death, except to feed worms and bacteria.
I will not feed anything, once I get hitched I will immediately write my will and say that I want to be cremated. Nobody is turning me to poop.
And again, get a hobby. Nihilism is for 25+ y/o virgins and edgy teenagers

>>41847479
All these trolls keep bumping it.

>>41847429
it is a fitness board, so why post this terrible thread in the first place?

>>41847489
>no mechanism to deal with it
except for our kidneys filtering it out and it coming out in your urine.
You are just being a faggot over how we deal with it, versus other animals.


And again, it is a stupid argument to make. A cow can eat belladonna all day. 1 leaf will kill a human. Guess that means we shouldn't eat plants.

>>41847535
Nutrition is part of fitness, more so that "mental/sexual health/feels" /r9k/ threads

>>41847535
I'm not sure what you mean.
The animal ag and petrochemical healthcare industries spend billions to hide the information I'm showing. They've told the plebs animals are food when they are not food.
I tell the plebs the animals are not food and their well being improves.
I actually think Western civilization is worth saving. 2 out of 3 are fat because they think animals are "natural" to eat.

>>41847567
pseudo-nutritrion you mean.

>>41847611
There we go again

>>41847566
Here comes the name calling. That's because you lost.
A kidney is not a trait SPECIFICALLY for the purpose of dealing with something ONLY found in animal parts.
I'm pretty sure cows also have no traits SPECIFICALLY for the digestion of meat, and also have MANY traits SPECIFICALLY for the digestion of plants, just like us.
Some animals who eat animals can swallow another animal whole. Some can't. As with your cow poison plant analogy, it has no point.

>>41847225
>Omnivores and carnivores have an ENZYME that deals with uric acid. We don't.

Nice no true scotsman m8

Got any more logical fallacies?

>>41847689

Not true, you say?
The enzyme is called urate oxidase (UO), or uricase or factor-independent urate hydroxylase

We are the ONLY animal that eats meat that DOESN'T have this enzyme.

>>41847675
>humans have no mechanism
>get shown mechanism
>it isn't specifically designed for that, though, so even though we can freely filter uric acid in the glomerulus it doesn't count
>You in charge of goalposts


>plants have toxic properties to humans
>pure herbivores can eat these plants
>humans cannot
>hurr not the same

>>41845828
once you actually have killed what you eat you stop caring

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>>41847711
only you say?

>>41847711

Post recipes or fuck off.

>>41847675
Let's accept that argument for arguments sake.

Whites generally maintain lactase into adulthood.
Meaning there is a trait that exists specifically for humans to digest dairy.

>>41847675
>I'm pretty sure cows also have no traits SPECIFICALLY for the digestion of meat, and also have MANY traits SPECIFICALLY for the digestion of plants, just like us.

Anon did your diet leave you with an intelligence deficit?

>we have no mechanism to deal with it.

>except for our kidneys filtering it out

>A kidney is not a trait SPECIFICALLY for the purpose of dealing with

LMAO

>>41847610
Western civilization isn't fat from eating animal products you tin foiler, it's fat from refined sugar and HFCS.
Both of which are vegan.

>>41847858
You've named the only trait we have specifically for digestion of a part of an animal.
Dairy's full of toxic waste now. So even if you wanted to get around the the cholesterol, fat, hormones, and drugs you'd still be doing something unfit to yourself.

>>41847806
That's true.
They'll get health problems and gout just like us if they keep it up.
Chimps eat very little meat though.
They are very smart like us. To the point they can use something for a purpose not intended for in case of scarcity.
I'm no zoologist. Do chimps NEED to eat animals like we DON'T? I doubt it.

>>41847932
>You've named the only trait we have specifically for digestion of a part of an animal.
>but it doesn't count against my argument because I am a hypocrite.

Also wouldn't we be on a short list of "herbivores" without the ability to digest fiber? I mean even our closest relatives can.

>>41847839
https://youtu.be/F3JzR14e7gw

>>41847983
>That's true.
so you are a liar.

We are not the only animal that eats meat that does not have uricase.

>>41847897
Not sure if you're the asshole who was at this argument from the beginning or think you can jump in at the end of it and not have any frame of reference. Either way, you're a dumb fuck.

If we had a trait SPECIFICALLY and ONLY in us for the purpose of dealing with a substance ONLY found in meat there would be no argument and we would be omnivores.
But there ISN'T and we are clearly herbivores but dumb fucks will continue to live in darkness.

>>41847920
It's because of all the extra calories in refined carbs like that and fats, yes.
It's because of anti-androgens
It's because of animal products.

We ate animals since we left the jungle but we have NEVER eaten this much.

>>41847997
IDK
Our micro-biome likes the fiber we can't break down.

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Fuck yes I eat death and disease. I eat it for fucking breakfast with a bowl of nails and no milk. For tens of thousands of years, mankind has feared the horsemen of the apocalypse, they feared pestilence, they feared famine, and they feared death. We lived in the food chain motherfucker, our existence was dependent on making the right decisions, on being smarter than every single other creature on this planet. And that's what we did. We not only mastered our own existence, we mastered every other creature's. They exist only because we let them. Through grit and determination and fucking blood on our faces, we exist in this moment.

And look where we are now. We're not in the food chain anymore. We created our own fucking food chain to sustain our superior existence. Even the weakest, most insignificant human is the apex predator to the apex predators. I'm not disgusted by our diets, I'm proud. Our diets are our legacy, our dynasty. We eat what we want because we make the fucking rules. I'm the culmination of a thousand years of evolutionary dominance. I don't fear disease, I don't fear hunger, and I don't fear death. I walk outside and I don't fear the horsemen of the apocalypse. Because we killed and ate them a long time ago.

Go to your gym. Eat lesser creatures for breakfast. Be an apex predator motherfucker.

>>41848011
I didn't know they didn't have uricase.
Change my statement from 'only' to 'extremely rare'.
I account for it in the large worldhood of the chimp and not the chimps physiology since uric acid is making them sick.
Google worldhood. It's one of Heidegger's words.

>>41848050
>But there ISN'T and we are clearly herbivores
Do you know what an argument from ignorance is?

>>41848151
Conflating the being of human beings with the being on animals.
The macho 'top o' the world, ma' attitude might be true if vegans DIDN'T have higher testosterone than everyone else.

>>41845828
/fit/ not mature enough to handle facts about animal protein

try again in 10-20 years

>>41848190
The study that you're referring to states a maximum of a 6% increase in testosterone in vegan males, however that was offset by a an equally increased T-binding inhibitor.

There were no differences between diet groups in free testosterone, androstanediol glucuronide or luteinizing hormone.

>>41848177
So you're drawing on some mystery essential nutrient found in meat in the future we haven't discovered yet?
Grow up. Do you know what falsification is? If there was anything innate in us that was specifically for meat, eggs, fish, etc. they would have found it. You don't understand essential features of beings regardless of tribal politics.

>>41848252
There were a few. IDK which one you're referring to.
Some anti vegan writers cite testosterone levels of vegetarians instead of vegans.
Arteries, cholesterol, blood sugar also worse on the omnivore diet. Down in the sex junk and everywhere else (since we're talking sex hormones).
High levels of xenoestrogens in non vegans too.
Literally estrogen like chemicals in men and male fetuses.

>>41845828
Strange, I thought all information from archeology and anthropology shows all human cultures to subsist on some quantity of animal protein. I guess that's just propaganda like the myth of the earth being spherical.

>>41845828
>not shooting, trapping, or spearing you own protine.

What are you, some sort of faggot?

>>41847711
We are also one of the very, very few animals that don't produce vitamin c. Evolutionary mutations and differences aren't a sign of some higher purpose or design, they're just random shit, as all evolution is.

>>41848050
>If we had a trait SPECIFICALLY and ONLY in us for the purpose of dealing with a substance ONLY found in meat there would be no argument and we would be omnivores.
That is the dumbest intelligent design-tier argument I've ever heard.

>>41845828
>Baseball players get strong by drinking milk
And roids

>>41849438
any drinkable roids you can recommend?

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>>41847366
That picture is retarded because chimps are widely known to be omnivorous

>>41847711
That's not what I said at all.

What YOU are saying is that there are no omnivores without that trait and therefore anything without it isn't an omnivore.

It is equivalent to you saying that all swans are white, which falls apart upon the discovery of black swans. People are omnivores without that trait, they eat vegetable matter and animal tissue, so do chimps, and are therefore irrefutably omnivorous. Your """"argument"""" is fallacious and I recommend suicide.

>>41848314
Vegans are more likely to be concerned about their health and are also more likely to exercise. This alone could explain why they have more test. Because they dont find any difference between health concious people with a normal diet and vegetarians, or vegans.

>>41847366
Dogs do get bypass surgery, and thats because of the lifestyle. As in less exercise then what they should have. Which is also the biggest reason why humans need bypass surgery too. Not because of what they eat. Its the caloric surplus and lack of exercise.
All the traits you talk of have nothing with being a herbivore or carnivore. Were slow because we walk on 2 legs. We didnt need claws or thick skin as we had tools and weapons. We dont need to be good at digesting raw and rotten meat(a lot of carnivores cant digest rotten meat without getting sick) because we had fire to cook the meat.

>>41847225
They found no difference between health concious people and vegetarians and vegans in health and longevity. And cancer happens in most animals. And our kidneys deal with uric acid.

Were omnivores. There are people living of animals, only. And people living of plants, only. The absorbtipnrate from animal products are way higher than frpm plants, but fibers and carbs from plants can be beneficial. We should eat both. Which is why are omnivores.

I eat vegan 95% of the time expect every other Sunday where i'll have at least 500g of heart / liver .

>>41847418

>At least that cow who died so I could have steak for supper served a greater purpose in death than he ever could in life

To be eaten by you, the humble king of the universe

>>41847767

>>plants have toxic properties to humans

Some plants. Not all herbivores can eat all plants.

meat is bad for you

the generation of animal products is bad

but it tastes good and i give very few shits

sage

>>41849659
Not even gonna be bothered to Google it, but pretty sure their daily calories are 90% fruit, and maybe some insects or a rodent if they get lucky. A far cry from "eggs and bacon for breakfast, chicken breast for lunch, cow burger for dinner, 24/7"
>>41849745
>humans need bypass surgery too. Not because of what they eat. Its the caloric surplus and lack of exercise.
150% sure humans get ischemic heart disease from blood cholesterol, and blood cholesterol is raised by dietary cholesterol
Or, to put it this way: a sedentary vegan at 3000 kcal a day has far, far less chances of getting ischemic heart disease compared to someone who eats sausage pizza 3 times a day

>>41850023
Chimps regularly eat other chimps. I know you are a troll, but god damn your dedication is infuriating.

>>41845919
forward facing eyes are present in most primates, its more for depth perception. (not a vegan just pointing out that that argument isnt that strong)

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>>41850029
>Regularly
>Troll
>Being this indoctrinated by the cow jew that you delude yourself into believing that an anon who speaks only facts and truth and has nothing against you to wish you harm is a troll and that chimpanzees "regularly" eat other fellow primates
D'oh, I bit the bait again. Hook, line and sinker. Anyway, pic related.

>>41847225
bmi is irrelivant, since meat is calorie dense it can lead to obesity which lowers testosterone.
if you eat a balanced diet none of these points mean anything

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>>41848190
>might be true if vegans DIDN'T have higher testosterone than everyone else.
explain this

>>41850117
>explain this one isolated case of a lunatic sociopathic neet

>>41850117

VG is living proof that anti-miscegenation laws were good.

>>41845828
if anything but dubs then all vegans go fuck themselves

I had chicken AND beef for dindins tonight, feels good man.

Vegan diet can be ok for most adults but many growing children if denied of meats can have serious effects on their development and health. Human brain developed to its current state thanks to meat.

>>41850062
Your pic says chimps eat lots of animal protein. What is it exactly you feel like you've refuted?

>>41850117
>when you're a vegan but you got chicken legs

>>41850374
>Reading is hard
>2% is a lot

>>41850972
>herbivores can eat up to 2% animal protein
Imbecile.

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>>41850995

MODS=FAGS

Do your job you fucking worthless shits

>>41851085
Do you understand what a herbivore is?

I'll make sure to eat extra dead animals today. The more you bitch, the more I'll eat.
I'll go full carnivore, faggot.
Leave omnivores behind desu

>>41847983
>Chimps eat very little meat though.
For all that we're on /fit/, and high protein diets are the norm, humans don't need much meat either.
BUT we also need NO grasses at all, which include all grains.
Fruit, a fuckton of vegetables, nuts, some meat or fish. Perfect diet, but also expensive.

loving these vegan threads people seeing the light :)

>>41845867
The "it's natural " argument is so goddamn dumb. I mean, fuck pretentious vegans, but that argument is just as dumb


Take a look at your daily routine. From the second you wake up in a soft bed, you are living very differently from how we were "naturally" 2000+ years ago

>>41851925
>Take a look at your daily routine. From the second you wake up in a soft bed, you are living very differently from how we were "naturally" 2000+ years ago
And since we're so much above animals there's no reason to consider their wellbeing more than with plants or microbes.

>>41851925
& for millions of years we slept in the trees whats your point?

>>41851940
>since we're so much above mentally retarded individuals, endangered species like pandas, fellow primates like chimps and gorrilas, as well as domesticated cats and dogs, there's no reason to consider their wellbeing more than with plants or microbes.

>Love me some pug milk on my morning oats, Down's ribs for lunch and golden retriever burger for dinner

>>41851969
>since we're so much above mentally retarded individuals, endangered species like pandas, fellow primates like chimps and gorrilas, as well as domesticated cats and dogs, there's no reason to consider their wellbeing more than with plants or microbes.
Yes, I agree.

>>41851969
Cats and dogs ARE beneath us. Chinese eat dogs for example. What's your argument?

>>41852014
>Being edgy to avoid confronting your cognitive dissonance and moral baseline inconsistency
How was school today?
Are you going to have Labrador roast for Thanksgiving?

>>41852023
>What is your point?
Chinese shouldn't eat dogs. You don't eat dog. Why don't you?
>They are beneath us
Obviously, nobody said they arent. I attacked the "we don't have to consider their well-being" part. Dogs being beneath us doesn't mean we should make them unnecessarily suffer.

>>41852035
>calling something edgy so that you can accuse people of avoiding confronting their cognitive dissonance and moral baseline inconsistency
That's just embarrassing, anon.

>Are you going to have Labrador roast for Thanksgiving?
No, because I don't like the taste. I don't care if some people do eat them, something that happens regularly as >>41852023 points out

>>41852058
>That's just embarrassing, anon.
Claiming that we should disregard the well-being of retarded humans is embarrassing, and also edgy.
>I don't like the taste
It's amazing, you should at least try it. You're not one of those vegan treehugger hippies now, are you? If you think it's too hard, maybe try a meatier breed like pitbulls or a softer flesh breed like poodles

>>41852090
Claiming that claiming that we should disregard the well-being of retarded humans is embarrassing, and also edgy is baseless.

They're called vegetables for a reason, anon.

You also could use this opportunity to stop making up absurd comparisons in the future, since you clearly can't handle people agreeing to it.


>It's amazing, you should at least try it.
I did and I didn't like it, which is why I won't repeat the experience.

>>41847519
>cogent disagreement
>responds like a 13 year old
This is why only complete regards and pseudo ints concert to organism. Leave my board

>>41845828
Vegan's are right, life is sacred.

Meat eaters are right, we need (animal) protein to survive and thrive.

What neither of you seem capable of doing is both consuming meat while at the same time acknowledging the sacrifice the animal made for you. Vegans are too soft to do the killing and outspoken meat eaters are too used to factory farming to think anything of it.

>>41852152
>need (animal) protein to survive and thrive
Protein, yes. From animals, no.

>>41852182
I'd ask for citation on this but these days you can get any nutty paper published. On that note vegans often come across as believing everything that they read.

>>41852223
Mate what citation could you need... There is nothing in plant protein that makes it inherently inferior to animal protein. Maybe the extra fiber inhibits absorption a bit. So what, eat a bit more and you're good

>>41852223
if you just skip the animal & eat the plants you are cutting out the middleman and getting the nutrients firsthand

>>41852247
Not all protein is equal, it's made up of 21 amino acids. Animal protein always has all 21, where nearly no plant has all 21. Typical uneducated vegan.

>>41852247
Good for you if you can eat that way AND hit your protein goal, personally eating protein and fiber in such close proportions gives me all kinds of gastric upset.

>>41852269
not all animals contain the same amount of saturated fat & cholesterol but they all contain it

>>41852305
>AND hit your protein goal
>protein goal
>protein

Implying vegans give two shits about putting on or maintaining mass.

>>41852319
>not all animals contain the same amount of saturated fat & cholesterol but they all contain it
I know, it's great

>>41852269
>The same argument 999999 threads in a row
First of all, only 9 amino acids are necessary, not all 21. The rest can be synthesized by out body. But for argument's sake, let's assume we need all 21 from out diet.
-Name a single plant food that lacks a single amino acid.
-Name which amino acid I will be deficient in if I eat oats, chickpeas, lentils and seitan daily,and some tempeh and tofu here and there

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>>41852319
And sat fat/cholesterol is the DEVIL!

>>41852339
ITT: You're interpretations of the Bible are invalid if you didn't go to seminary school.

>>41852366
>Calls others uneducated, implying he know better
>Gets asked to share his knowledge
>Instead of admitting he doesn't know better, he whines about being exposed as uneducated
I know I'm doing the right thing because people who eat meat are either not informed on the health and environmental facts and ethical stance of veganism, which is understandable, or outright retarded and hypocritical like you, which I do my best to not be like

>>41852419
>muh environment
>needs shit imported from all over the world in his diet
You're doing more harm eating seitan and tempeh and tofu than I do with my 10 chickens in the backyard, buddy.

>>41852438
justify's killing & eating dead animals

>>41852438
>Tofu, tempeh, kidney beans, chickpeas, lentils, wheat, oats and rice need to be shipped all over the world
>Not like their dirt cheap price implies that is not the case, I bet the broccoli Jew lobbyists push the government to subsidize fucking rice and beans
>Meanwhile, the vast majority of the western world sustains itself on a diet of backyard chickens that don't even need to be fed, reducing their ecological footprint compared to plants
Tumblr fatty feminist sjw levels of delusion

>>41845828
What is vitamin B12?

>>41852462
Justification is something you do to prove to others your actions are right. I've only seen such posturing from the vegans in this thread.

>>41852484
A non issue
>>41852486
If there was a legal horror in the world you cared to stop you'd do the same

>>41852419
I have an ethical stance against veganism, as in I've yet to meet one that isn't insufferable so the ideal can't possibly be sound enough to advocate.

>>41852504
You're just preaching to the wrong crowd is all. I hate factory farming just as much as vegans do but hell, I'd hunt and eat humans if it were legal. Alpha = Apex Predator.

>>41852506
If your arguments are shit, you'll find external resistance.
If your beliefs are rooted deep in your brain and you aren't open to facts and another viewpoint, the opposition will seem insufferable

>>41845828
death happens, you're too sensitive.

i eat meat, deal with it.

>>41852528
laws are made for the people who choose to follow them

>>41852541
you are fat, deal with it.

>>41852535
It's fine to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out.

>>41845828
Id rather live till 70 eating meat than live to 100 not eating meat

>>41852551
nice try, i'm probably leaner than you. enjoy remaining a skinny weakling though.

>>41852561
8% princess ;)

>>41852535
we've all met that vegan who's a total cunt about it. the stereotypes exist for a reason, and its because a large percentage of vegans really are insufferable arseholes. i like the cause, i like the vegans who aren't like that, but cmon you must admit that a lot of em are bastards

>>41852554
Epic rebuttal, you sure showed me!

>>41852462
He said using technology made with animal glue.
Turn off that computer, anon.

>>41852482
So much for muh environment, eh?

>>41852580
its a work pc ;) saving lives on the daily as a software dev for the nhs uk

>>41852574
that's wonderful son, i'm proud of you.

>>41852577
>the stereotypes exist for a reason, and its because a large percentage of vegans really are insufferable arseholes
I bet you that there are vegans in your social circle you don't even know about because they lay low

>>41852589
good you should be i do 12-15 hours a week cardio to maintain this

>>41852542
*wink* I think I gotcha.

>>41852590
yeah i ain't denying that, i've met a few who are just normal, as is expected. its only a diet. however my point was that a lot of vegans are cunts. veggies are usually fine, vegans often have mountains of chips on their shoulder.

>>41852588
>its a work pc ;)
Currently misused by its staff for private reasons instead of what it's intended for.

>saving lives on the daily as a software dev for the nhs uk
And by saving those lives further harming the environment, well done.

>>41852609
veganism is not only a diet fool

>>41847507
Post pic

>>41852617
oh cry me a river i cant do any work if there is no work to be done, they wanna pay me for 4chan then thats up to them

>>41852590
lmao no one is talking about these mythical RL "stealth" vegans, just you loudmouthed ones on the internet. You fringe types almost always keep to yourself when not online or in a like-minded crowd.

>>41852617
Way to take the system apart from the inside. I bet you do alot of mental gymnastics like this to rationalize the impact of your actions.

>>41852633
>oh cry me a river i cant do any work if there is no work to be done,
Then turn off the computer and save some energy.
>they wanna pay me for 4chan then thats up to them
And if I want to pay someone to gut some pig, then it's up to me as well. Thanks for having that conversation, it wasn't fun.

>>41852658
>I bet you do alot of mental gymnastics like this to rationalize the impact of your actions.
Not really, since I'm generally fine with that impact. I'm not the one whining about muh environment while harming it because that's one of the few arguments that may make some sense regarding veganism, anon - that's you. You just don't care enough about it to be consequent, while I'm consequent enough to admit that I'm ok with harming both the environment and animals for my personal benefit.

You can stop using that computer now, it's not vegan.

>>41850117
>posts one pic of vegan whose PR is just above 4 plate
>ignores thousands of omnivorous body builders, power lifters, and strong men who look better and are much stronger than this kid

Wtf are you even doing here?

>>41852693
>I'm ok with harming both the environment and animals for my personal benefit.

Not gonna lie, you lost me on this one. Not sure if vegan or just strawmanning for trolling purposes...

>>41852817
>Not sure if vegan
I'm not, anon.

Accepting the reality we're in isn't trolling or strawmanning either. You're fine with the environmental impact your computer has, as evident by the fact that you're using it. So am I.

I don't get why people have to lie to others and more importantly themselves about this.

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Reminder that animal rights don't exist
>Genesis 1:26-28King James Version (KJV)

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

>>41852880
1, you are not talking to the same person
2. i do as much as possible to cause the least impact... simple

>>41852908
also said thou shalt not kill

>>41845828
don't care about animals

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>>41852939
*Thou shalt not murder. You don't murder animals you kill them. And you know that the commandments are for man, dumb-dumb

>>41852915
>2. i do as much as possible to cause the least impact... simple
That's a lie, anon. It's possible for you to turn off that computer. A computer isn't something essential.

>>41852574
Post a pic

>>41852958
im working & shitposting

donor transplant software is essential

>>41852959
i dont have one naked im not vain
8% tested during a V02 max test in a lab
https://www.strava.com/athletes/15752364

>>41852908
Part of having dominion is having responsibility as stewards. Not just rapaciously extracting every scrap of value from it.

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>Alcohol kills gains

>>41845828
Ive lived my whole life eating animals. Thats 21 years. I killed animals too, tho i didnt eat them.

Say im not omnivore again. I dare you.

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>>41852992
Sure, but animals are still our slaves.

>>41852956
1. “And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food.” —Genesis 1:30

2. “But Daniel resolved that he would not defile himself with the royal rations of food and wine … Then Daniel asked … ‘Let us be given vegetables to eat and water to drink.’ … At the end of ten days it was observed that they appeared better and fatter than all the young men who had been eating the royal rations.” —Daniel 1:8, 11–12, 15

3. “The wolf and the lamb shall feed together; the lion shall eat straw like an ox; but the serpent—its food shall be dust! They shall not hurt or destroy on all my holy mountain.” —Isaiah 65:25

4. “But ask the animals, and they will teach you; the birds of the air, and they will tell you.” —Job 12:7

5. “The righteous know the needs of their animals, but the mercy of the wicked is cruel.” —
Proverbs 12:10

6. “He gives to the animals their food, and to the young ravens when they cry.” —
Psalms 147:9

7. “I will make for you a covenant on that day with the wild animals, the birds of the air, and the creeping things of the ground; and I will abolish the bow, the sword, and war from the land; and I will make you lie down in safety.” —Hosea 2:18

8. “How long will the land mourn, and the grass of every field wither? For the wickedness of those who live in it the animals and the birds are swept away, and because people said, ‘He is blind to our ways.'” —Jeremiah 12:4

9. “Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten in God’s sight.” —Luke 12:6

10. “Your righteousness is like the mighty mountains, your judgments are like the great deep; you save humans and animals alike, O Lord.” —Psalms 36:6

11. “Blessed are the merciful, for they will receive mercy.” —Matthew 5:7

>>41852972
>donor transplant software is essential
No, it's not. It's very much possible to do that stuff with paper and yet you don't. You even have an invested economical interest that it's not done in a more environmentally friendly fashion.

>>41853018
its more efficient , faster & safer

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>>41853014
Lmao what are you even trying to say with these random verses?

It's simple

Some human beings are predators, others are little bitches

You eat flowers and cry, we eat flesh and laugh, and the world keeps spinning

>>41853036
veganism is promoted by the bible

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>>41853058
Lmao point to one clear verse that states that.

>>41853046
On current trends, some researchers estimate that virtually all commercial fisheries will have collapsed by 2050 unless urgent action is taken

>>41853072
each one i listed

& im not even religious im just refuting the post above

>>41853072
I give you all plants that bear seed everywhere on Earth, and every tree bearing fruit which yields seed: they shall be yours for food. All green plants I give for food to the wild animals, to all the birds of heaven, and to all reptiles on Earth, every living creature, it shall be theirs for food." (Genesis 1:29-31)

>>41853031
>its more efficient , faster
So is meat.

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>>41853090
All of those verses are either methaphors or verses taken out of context, elaborate on one of the verses, prove to me it's talking about veganisn.

>>41845828
Thanks OP now I hungry as fuck cannot wait to get some delicious dead animals in my belly all that wonderful protein, fucking yum.

>>41853110
how is meat safe the U.N classed beef as a category 1 carcinogen same as smoking

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>>41853100
Yes, we can eat plants and so can animals, that does not mean animals are not ours to own and dominate. It's not like you CANT be a vegan or its bad, but animals are our property at the end of the day.

>>41853058
>veganism is promoted by the bible
Genesis 9. You're wrong.

>>41852053
>Chinese shouldn't eat dogs.
Why?
>You don't eat dog. Why don't you?
When's the last time you saw a dog burger at your local butchery?

>>41853110
more efficient do you realise how much water & food & time is required to raise a cow

>>41845828
Lol meat over a fire is the only reason your brain managed to evolve to what it is today. You are literally going against evolution and nature.
Also recent research shows plants are sentient as well, so you going to cry about them as well?

>>41853124
There are other meats beside beef, and I left out the safer for a reason, since it's an individual concern.

>>41853141
you cant own life

>>41853159
its a world wide epidemic not an individual concern

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>>41853162
Yes we can, God gave us dominion over them.

>>41853150
>more efficient do you realise how much water & food & time is required to raise a cow
Yes and since I can afford them anyway it doesn't matter, it's still a more efficient way for me to get my protein.

>>41853100
>plants that bear seed

I think you have the New 'Tard Version.

>>41853175
>its a world wide epidemic not an individual concern
No one's forced to eat meat, anon. People can make the choice to trade in that risk for some delicious meat, and they do so voluntarily on an individual level day after day after day and will continue to do so.

>>41853192
its tradition normalized from birth.

if you put a rabbit & strawberries in front of a baby/child it will eat the fruit & cuddle the rabbit

>>41845828

Never stop these threads.
I love seeing meat-eaters and rape enthusiasts being triggered.

>>41853209
>if you put a rabbit & strawberries in front of a baby/child it will eat the fruit & cuddle the rabbit
And if you feed it a vegan diet it'll grow up defective, if it'll grow up at all and once grown up it can choose what it eats like everyone else and if you disagree with it then tough shit, anon.

>>41853209
>if you put a rabbit & strawberries in front of a baby/child it will eat the fruit & cuddle the rabbit

I can't believe this is your argument. That a child wouldn't start gnawing on a live rabbit.

>>41853332
welcome to the light

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>>41848190
When you vegan being high test means you become a whiny preachy faggot.

>>41845867
not really though, our closest relatives eat fruit, leaves, and occasionally insects

>>41849626
>>41847439
do this pls

>>41854138
Nigga chimps are fucking MURDEROUS

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>>41854138
If you talking about chimps meat is a delicacy to them, its just not easily avaiable
They have no qualms about tearing smaller monkeys apart to eat them
pic related

>>41847418
So the Cow serves a purpose in death to feed the meaningful humans that serve no purpose in life or death as they feed worms?

>>41856658
I can't decide if the poor chimp or his smug shit eating grin annoy me most

>>41857572
>I can't decide if the poor chimp or his smug shit eating grin annoy me most
I completely forgot that there were south american niggers until this pic

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>>41845828
>When the disgust hits you and you realize you've been tricked into eating death and disease you will take control of your health.
Relying on memes to inform you about health isn't a good idea.
>>41845842
Most pseudoscientists are.
>>41845849
OP won't change minds (intelligent ones anyway) because pseudoscience and memes will never be effective
>>41845870
>>41849745
These
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-best.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as.html
>http://www.lloydianaspects.co.uk/opinion/veggie.html
>http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.1.6291
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is.html?m=1
>https://breakingmuscle.com/fuel/why-all-humans-need-to-eat-meat-for-health
>https://authoritynutrition.com/7-evidence-based-health-reasons-to-eat-meat/
>https://authoritynutrition.com/it-aint-the-fat-people/
>https://authoritynutrition.com/top-8-reasons-not-to-fear-saturated-fats/
>https://chriskresser.com/the-diet-heart-myth-cholesterol-and-saturated-fat-are-not-the-enemy
>https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/1zjlmu/scienceanimal_protein_rich_diets_could_be_harmful/cfupxyt/?st=j403pmhn&sh=b3278c44
>http://caloriesproper.com/red-meat-wont-kill-you-it-will-make-you-stronger/
>(cont.)

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>>41845828
Brutal video indeed, but still WE the true alphas in the world so fuck them animals. WE need all their gains.

>pic extremely related since I'm going through a dirty bulk so eating all kinds of meat.

>>41858885
>(cont.)
>http://www.saragottfriedmd.com/does-meat-cause-cancer-revisiting-the-meat-igf-1-and-cancer-connection/
>http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/meat-and-cancer/
>http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/meat-cancer-bacon-who-report-mens-fitness-health
>https://rawfoodsos.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/minger_formal_response2.pdf
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/06/final-china-study-response-html/
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/03/the-china-study-a-formal-analysis-and-response/
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/
>http://www.foodrenegade.com/the-china-study-discredited/
>https://deniseminger.com/the-china-study/
>https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/the-curious-case-of-campbells-rats-does-protein-deficiency-prevent-cancer/
>https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/taking-a-trip-down-memory-lane-fishing-for-our-good-friend-glutathione-in-the-waters-of-the-memory-hole-how-t-colin-campbell-helped-prove-that-protein-protects-us
>http://www.sciencemediacentre.co.nz/2014/03/05/dietary-protein-health-and-mortality-experts-respond/
>https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/10-things-vegetarians-get-wrong
>https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/vegans-suck-at-science-heres-the-proof

>>41853209

holy shit you're literally retarded.