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doggo* general

powerlifting is gay lets talk about dogs

>>41835896
F R O N T

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Reminder that max legal = max comfy

is there a better feel than sipping on some whisky on a hot summer saturday night with the AC blowing in your penthouse suite

>>41836065
Having a beer with my father is a great feel.

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>>41835896
only 6 weeks left of dieting, then maybe i'll be able to make gains. yay.
should i hop onto strong lifts or candito's strength/hypertrophy routine? i was a fat lazy fuck before i starting cutting, so i don't really know where to go after i am in a healthy bodyfat range and don't have to restrict my calories.

>>41835896
ms trappy

>>41836230
candito

>>41836232
u ms trappy, i ms trappy!

Got a stiff neck and back, what should I do?

I cricked my neck whilst doing pendlay row and its making lifting really awkward, now I have an ache upper back too.

>>41835896
this guy is a fake gay

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>>41835896

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>>41835896
wow

>>41835896
Those are some juicy FUCKING lips

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>>41836443
dsls dude

>>41835896
DELET THIS

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>>41836230
>tfw had enough room in my macros to fit in a beer on a cut
it's the little things

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They call him The Mexican Tomato

>>41836521
i don't drink beer, but i fit in some junk now and then. as long as i meet my protein goal and stay within my caloric budget i try to givemyself some wiggleroom. but when you're a small guy to begin with, my micro TDEE doesn't give me much room to work with

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I can dead cling 115 banans

>>41836525
Is that fatlifts from fraud?

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GOING DOWN

Who the FUCK is that sexy motherfucker in the OP?
Tbqh i wish I was a 15 yr old girl he'd probs go for me if I was

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me and op

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/fit/ is over

>>41836588
who the fuck is that lmao

>>41835896

Can anyone either write up or point me to a write up of the Nuckols 3x Per Week Intermediate Moderate Volume bench routine that doesn't require Microsoft Office to open? I got the free programs from his site, but they all appear to be on an Excel file, and I don't have Excel.

>>41837160
www.libreoffice.org

>>41837160
>>41837209
Google sheets could also work

does isley still browse fit

>>41836399
;-;

>>41837263
you do

>>41837209

Thanks, chief

Are you guys watching Men's Junior lightweight lifters? Already 3 world records scored.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG1tJWQ3Ji8
http://goodlift.info/live1/onlineside.html

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>>41835927
here is the only doggers I have on my computer, hope you like him

>>41837850
I am watching now, grabbing some breakfast while they have their break now

>>41837850
The difference between 53kg and 59kg lifters is insane, what the fuck.

>>41838369
that midget guy won gold in 53kg class.
unbelievable fucking mechanical advantage.

it's like normal people are cucked by nature's jokes

>>41838379
Was funny with his deadlift, he locked out above his dick. But yeah, big advantage, but as long as he makes the weight I think it's alright.

>>41838397
jason luo just got greedy and lost gold.
goodjob

>>41838379
It's not really an advantage for him since he can't deadlift. Look at the wilks score, he's got about 450 while the best junior lifters gonna end up around 500.

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>>41835010
>know which quadrant?
I'd consider myself less extreme tbH, so more in the Bern zone.
The political tests were taken one year ago, the personality test in December 2016.

>>41838413
only for DL tho because he's short.
for squat and bench he's a strong as an ant.

>>41838424
Yeah but DL is a part of powerlifting. If he can't improve his diddily he's gonna have a hard time competing with the best when he has to move up to -59.

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Bye

>>41837850
>all these skinny guys at 53kg
they need to eat

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lalala

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Hey I'm still looking for the Eric Spoto spurdo

opinions on WS4SB? and is it for intermediate+?

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So I went to real weightlifting gym where only oly lifters train and they tought me how to clean, snatch and said Im welcome to came anytime I want and I have potential. I live 2h ride from them tought, so I crash only on weekends and stay there saturday-sunday.

Now best routine to mix up powerlifting with weightlifting? I could squat wendler style with more squatting template so 5 squat session per week but they're all light

I am currently working on increasing my weak bench (67 kg) on GreyskullLP. I can lift the weight off my chest with no problems, but then it gets stuck half way, and no matter how hard I push, its stuck.
And if the bar passes that middle point, then I can lock it up easily.
That is without a spotter of course.

What does this specific weakness mean, and how can I surpass it ?

>>41838950
Replace deadlift with oly movements? Isn't it just that easy?

>>41838891
Intermediates can do well on conjugate periodization. It is basically DUP with a lot of exercise variation (still sufficient specificity) and relatively high volume per session (with room to increase it further).

If you like the look of it, go ahead and try it.

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>>41838857

STREAMING ALL IPF WORLD STREAMS IN CYTU
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BE/r/ipf

>>41838962

Im doing typical deadlift only once a week like TM said and I have progress on it anyway, on other day I do snatch grip deadlift which is good

it isnt that easy, as you got partial movements etc. There was no main coach on this weekend beacuse hes in other country atm, and they said to me that I have to do for like month and a half stuff programed by myself, and when he comes he will make routine for me. They want me to start even if Im weak same as in powerlifting

>>41838661
I'm in fucking love now
go fuck yourself

>>41838951
Also, let's say my work weight for today is 70 kg. (Empty bar is 10 kg), at 3x5+

How many sets and reps of warmups should I use, and at what weights ?

I am asking because I think I am doing too many warmup sets, making myself tired by my work sets.

>>41838991
Woo finally. thanks

>>41838951
Generally, just push harder off the chest. You should incorporate some assistance work in your program as well, such as dips or close-grip benching.
>warmups
Think I'd do 2-3x10 with the bar, 1x5-10 with 40kgs, and 1x5 with 60.

who here /legdrive/ ?
tfw my paused bench sets feel almost as light as my tng sets

>>41838420
Commie, I've got a helicopter ride working for u

What the hell, why is this thread so shit today?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja734J4gVSM

anybody checking out the hotties here ?

>>41839277
The powerlifting meme is dying. People are realizing what a joke it is.

It took me TWO weeks to realize that my lack of salt intake was making me weaker

All my lifts went down 20lbs and i couldnt grasp why. Ive been sweating buckets since its been 90F/30C the entire time

Why am I so good at wasting time, couldve made an extra 20lbs on my lifts in that timeperipd yes im still on SS

>>41839349
we're watching on cytube

>>41839387
it's a women cheating at ROM episode

>>41839395
A couple are completely bullshit yeah, but most are just bullshit. Squat was better though, looking forward to deadlift afterwards.

>>41836399
I Miss u too

>>41839409

>The bench session is the worst part of the competition

What a fucking surprise. Maybe it's just a shit lift for wankers (hashtag #ShitLift4Wankers) and we'd all be better off if it were replaced with a standing press

>>41840017
We'd be better off if you were replaced by standing press.

>>41840017
it should be replaced with bouncing 275 lb deadlifts on a carpet for reps

>>41840017
Strict press, no lean back what so ever and no bouncing and I'd agree. Could also just ban arching in the bench so we wouldn't have to redefine the entire sport.

>>41840102
there should be a fourth spotter who keeps his hand wedged between your lower back and the bench and screams no lift if contact is broken

>>41840102
I don't see the advantage of strict press over press.

And banning arching in bench is completely impracticable, no way to create a ruleset for that.

>>41840121
>>41840124
Of course it isn't possible to ban regular arching that even a 90yr old man can do, but what about chick-arches? Must be some way to define that and ban that specifically.

I just think it is ridiculous when you can lay down on the floor and bench your The Press. But it allows for more wieght so allowing lean back would probably be better in terms of creating competition.

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For those of you bitching about the bench press in powerlifting, it is an absurd lifts with the way some people cheat the range of motion

Just more reason why powerlifting shouldn't be considered a sport

It's a hobby that's supposed to be a pissing contest between some chubby strong guys, not some Asian Acrobat who belly button fucks the bar

Quit taking this shit so seriously and you might get stronger instead of just looking Stronger by cheating the lift

While we're on the topic, I think there should be a maximum height allowed in handball and volleyball, maximum stride in sprints, minimum weight in marathons, strict jumps with no lying-back-technique, no running jumps, no more brushes in curling, no glasses or lenses in range shooting, and many more.

>>41840317
>but just in time for a shady blowjob.jpg

>>41840367
>no more brushes in curling

the most important one you listed t b h. literally ruins the sport. if you cant overcome the friction of the ground yourself. you. cant. curl. it

we should atleast have brush and non-brush federations to separate the real athletes from the cheaters

the equivalent of that guy in baseball who bunts all the time.

>>41840017
>>41840102
>>41840121
>>41840124
>>41840184
>>41840367
>>41840317
>>41840465


change bench press for power clean

after all its

power lifting

theres nothing in the rulebook that says a dog cant play basketball. ill allow it.

>>41840499
>>41840499

i allow it too but if he sucks im benching him

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Can someone post the wheel of fortune where it's obvious it's supposed to say "EAT MORE"?

bench press already makes up only ~20% of a persons total. its already the least important lift in competition. most people can strict press ~60% of their bench press. if you replaced bench with the press, its contribution to your total would be so insignificant, literally no one would care about it

press fags btfo

>>41840527

thats why we should do power cleans

as any athlethic person should be able to power clean more than bench

bench btfo

even movement says "power" clean and bench press isnt named bench "power"

>>41840527
Bench and press then? Would give a little more balance. Not that it matters, the only thing that matters is fucking chinks cheating, rules should simply be changed.

>>41840551


>chinks cheating

lmao either you are a liftlet or a manlet beacuse chinks dont compete in any important weight class

>>41840544
>as any athlethic person should be able to power clean more than bench
not true

bench record is 325kg
best squat clean ever done is around 270kg, do the powerclean would be less than this

>>41840544
bringing up the name is semantics. everyone knows powerlifting has nothing to do with actual power development and is about maximal strength. its just named wrong. powerclean would just make PL discount OLY instead of being its own thing. it would also make the >sport even more disproportionately lower body. its also a gay lift for fags

>>41840551
adding a 4th lift would make meets hours longer. if you want to do that many events just do strongman you fag

>>41840575

nope, best clean and JERK is 266kg, best clean is way more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRlJWcPzg-8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQZjC7cNbyE

oly lifters dont care if they can clean 300kg if they cant jerk 220 with it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFesjbNd-D4

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>>41840518

>>41840615
I said best squat clean ever done was 270kg in training by some russian dude nobody was talking about jerks

>>41840586

strongman is about maximal strenght, powerlifting is about moving most weight possible in given lift which doesnt mean pure strenght, best example of moving most weight and not being strong as possible is allowing for sumo deadlift or high arch bench

>>41840615
>best clean is way more
>doesnt post best clean as evidence

>>41840628
Thanks babe

>>41840632

read again dumbbo

"best clean and JERK i 266kg, CLEAN is way more"

>>41840574
>>41840610
I'm just saying that the bench press is stupid, it could be done better. Stronkman is best anyway.

Powerlifting should go back to the oddlifts and just pick 3 lifts the day of the meet.

>>41840633
strongman is literally about gimmick meme movements. most of which are done for reps not weight (not bashing SM its more fun the PL or OLY by a mile)

>>41840633
>Maximal strength
Hitching, strapped deadlifts are about maximal strength, got it.

>>41840645
Np <3

>>41840653
>>41840660
go make a strongman general for your meme lifts then

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>>41840653
It doesn't matter what you think.
Long live the bench.

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Rica nee no data go

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my gf won the junior world championships last night

:)

how can powerlifting "women" even compete

>>41840701
Good job female version of Joe!

>>41840678
dont forget beneroo bars and wagon wheel sized plates that make it a block pull above the knee

>>41835896
can someone help me? did i snap my shit?
i was squatting as usual today, atg 300lbs
2nd rep of the 3rd set i hear a pop on my lower back at the bottom of the movement, immediately lose strength but manage to go up and rack the bar
im feeling constant pain on my lower back since then (it just happened an hour ago) and it's difficult to get up and walk, but when im sitting the pain isnt that bad
pls help ive never had issues like this or injuries ever

>>41840701
name?

>>41840715
Also the fact that they can use deadlift and squat suits lmao

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>>41840701
>his e-gf C+J more than him

>>41840648
link it then

>>41840723
Yeah you'll Never be able to lift again
So sorry

http://goodlift.info/live1/onlineside.html

looks like junior men 73kg will be a pretty good show weight wise already...

>>41840743
When do the real men play

>>41840759
next weekend :(

>>41840731
Koha rebeka

>>41840742
ok ty

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>>41840743
when are the twink women on? my muslim waifu is competing

>>41840805
An hour ago.

Anyone start out with highbar and tried moving to lowbar?

I know a lot of elite tier powerlifters hold records with highbar and I feel much more comfortable doing it too, but due to a series of injuries in the past I think that lowbar will be more viable.

Currently my hamstrings are pretty weak and I'm playing around with different stances and grip widths, but a lot of my cues from highbar seem to persist (mainly my upright torso).

Anyways I was wondering what are some good cues to internalize on lowbar?

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>>41838420
Interesting.

You're a little more down and left than I thought you'd be, by the way you described it. I feel that's pretty normal for scandinavia though

>>41840701
>"""""gf"""""

>>41838420
I dont like that you and I are both ISTJ's but you're a retarded fag commie

how are you an ISTJ but a fag commie it makes no sense?

>>41840805
Is that an IPF-approved hijab??

>>41840759
Your surrogate father figures compete later

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>>41840840
You know, I don't know that I ever really made any concrete connections for when I was doing low bar.

https://www.instagram.com/p/94QYoEzH8g/?taken-by=norsefat

looking back on many of the videos, they all looked much worse than the squats I'm currently doing. Weird.

>>41840877
not IPF approved. gas palestine now!

(she posted on her ig that shes the only person whos been allowed to wear long sleeves and tights under her singlet too)

>>41840915
>https://www.instagram.com/p/94QYoEzH8g/?taken-by=norsefat

isnt lowbar supposed to be more butt back than down? Yours look like you just knees out which is for highbar and on your ig there is no change in form from your highbar to lowbar you just changed up bar positioning

amm I rightt

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>>41840948
>tights under her singlet

FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

THATS THE ONE FUCKING THING I WANT TO DO

>>41840964
I mean, yeah honestly. my issue was I just couldn't do that successfully.

>>41840978

I spent 2 days with oly lifers and I was in shock how they squat quads only, literally no ass shooting up even with heavy sets

they want me to do highbar meming now too while my lowbar low to ground is fine on highbar im doing to flexion as fuck its cringy to watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHO8gyyfeVY


oly lifters dont really care about they knees clapping aswell from what I saw, they were like carrying about tightness and shit but no one carrying aobut knees

I did tripples at around 90% this friday and I want to test my max next week. How should I program next week for a good chance at smeshing my lift? Squat btw

>>41840978
you have to protect your modesty lad. otherwise no one will want to marry you. tell the IPF Im sure theyll understand

>>41840840
>Anyone start out with highbar and tried moving to lowbar?

A lot of CWS's roster will train highbar during volume phases and transition to lowbar as they get closer to meet day

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reminder this lift is more impressive than all of powerlifting put together

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqlMYch9p2I

>>41841032
lol I remember this girl from when I used to to to eastern block raves. she gave me a rim job for some e. totally degen

>>41840840
Bodorio trains high bar and switched to low bar for comp

>Cues
You can cue it like high bar and that isn't an issue. I definitely would say that I cue my squat like high bar and I use the low bar rack position.

>>41841111
Diffrence about highbar and lowbar is literally sitting down and being more vertical vs sitting back and having foward lean

Low bar you start shooting hips back and highbar is knees out. Thats main diffrnece

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>>41841032
looks like an average gopnik slag to me

requesting the photo of fat retard's "low bar"

>>41841156
You're going to get more forward lean simply because you need to lean forward to maintain the center of balance. However hips should never shoot back, regardless of bar position. Knees should also always be cued out regardless of bar position.

>>41841191
Thanks mr expert coach

requesting the photo of fat retard's "low bar"

>>41841164
idk why she always looks better in videos than pictures

Requesting pic of Sean's "keys"

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How low can a lowbar squat go if a lowbar squat could squat low?

>>41841349
That's a back lift.

requesting the photo of Sean with his dad on Father's Day

requesting a good thread for once

>>41841384
Here it is

>>41841295
Ayylmao forehead when taken by herself

I've just finished fucking my 100th woman

Where's small dick Sean when you need him?

>>41840723
Possibly just strained it. Either go to a chiro/osteo tomorrow or give it a few more days to see if you get better. Keep moving around tho, you don't want to stiffen up completely.
>>41840843
I feel like the test is a little skewed to the left by the phrasing of the questions.
>>41840863
>but give me the facts
Like Norsefat, I haven't seen much empirical evidence for free markets being better than regulated markets. For individuals with a good start in life (wealthy parents, fairly smart), right-leaning societies should lead to a better life, but I see society on average benefiting more from leaning to the left.

I somewhat agree with your post in the previous thread, tho. The post where you made it clear that you are pro-Keynesian economics.

>>41841012
>oly lifters dont really care about they knees clapping aswell from what I saw, they were like carrying about tightness and shit but no one carrying aobut knees
The knee sweep is intentional, don't mistake it for carelessness.

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>>41841749
Hey bro I am the guy who asked previously about my bench press being stuck half through.

So I just returned from the gym when I had a 70 kg work weight, 3x5+

All sets were done with a spotter because this is the first time I lift this weight.

My question: Is using a spotter a valid way to improve my bench ? I felt sets were relatively easy, which means the spotter was contributing a lot.

Thing is, without a spotter I wouldn't have completed the work sets of today.

Btw, I am finding Greyskull LP to be a great program. I just add a rowing movement and a bicep curl movement, and I leave the gym really "pumped up"

>>41841826
>70 kg
pls be for 10 reps, after having done 2 sets previously

>>41841826
Did the spotter physically help you or mentally help you?
Nothing wrong with having a spotter help you unrack and keep watch in case you fail, but you need to learn how to unrack yourself and how to do the roll of shame.

>>41841932
Not him, but a friend of mine I am traching to lift refused to bench without a spotter, even with babyweights (30kg). I just couldn't convince him so when he actually failed I just refused to help him so he would see the value of roll of shaming first hand. Got a lot of ugly stares from the other people in the gym lol

Today there was a fat short middle aged man in my gym.

After I saw him wearing shorts, now I understand what they mean when they say calves are 90% genetic.

He had the biggest, most defined calves I have ever seen. All he did in the gym was walk on an elliptical and stand on a machine that vibrates to "burn fat" so don't tell me he trained for these calves..

>>41841932
He had his hands around the bar since it was unracked until re-racking.
I felt him pulling a little.
When I asked, he said he only helped me in the last rep.

I must say having a spotter helped psychologically, alot.

>>41841974
Calf size is all genetic.

>>41841191
You were in my dream last night bobbo

>>41841974
He was probably pulling the whole time. You did 60-65kg most likely

Next time tell him not to hold the bar

>>41841956
Kekd. He should be glad he learned it at 30kgs and not heavier.
>>41841974
I wouldn't train that way. You're mentally screwing yourself over, imho.

>>41842061
What is the correct way then ? Tell the guy to intervene only when I fail ?

>>41842035
W-what happened

>>41842070
Yes.

So I've been working on my deadlift past few weeks by upping the volume, doing 5x6 and increasing the weight 5kg each time, but I only managed 4 sets with 200kg this week so it's clear that progress is slowing down. Should I start increasing in increments of 2.5kg instead? I'm not sure how to adjust my sets and reps accordingly to keep building up my strength. Anyone have some advice?

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>>41842133
Hi old fren

6:46 min mile at 90kg in the b a k I n g h e a t

Please clap

>>41842266
>Treadmill
>Counting
:^)

Good job friendo

>>41842284
Hehe, my fitness exams are treadmill based so hell yeah am I gonna ego run

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Who woulda guessed this would happen?

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>>41842311
>bully

not on my fucking watch mate. expect members of the screamer defence force to pick you up at 19:00 GMT. hope you enjoy the gulag :)

fake natural
bad tattoo
beats headphones
single mother

checks out

>>41842458
you forgot to mention hes stronger than youll ever be. also, you dont have a father either sean

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HOT ACTION

>>41842677
how could they fuck up so badly. this is worse than the US open shitshow

>>41842520
noone cares screamer is still a spastic

>>41842731
everyone cares. screamer is a national treasure

Why does screamer have the Olympic tattoo?

>>41842789
When he first got it he fucked up because he thought that worlds powerlifting was an olympic event

>>41841974
Calf size isn't genetic you stupid retard. You just need to use high reps and volume to make them grow because they have more slow twitch muscle fibers.

>>41842789
"My first was on my chest and is the Olympic rings, surrounded by a laurel and the phrase "there are no limits, only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." this tattoo means the most to me as I got it when I was 19 when I decided I was going to put everything into becoming World Powerlifting Champion. In order to achieve this I believed I would have to dedicate myself like an Olympic athlete and I got it close to my heart to remind me that the journey is never over"

>>41842226
Smaller increments is always advisable when you start to slow down, generally increasing volume is the key, unless you're fatigued.

Try adding a separate day and lowering the per day volume slightly to avoid complete fatigue in each given day.

>>41842834
>gets BTFO by the all natty deadlift king
>goes back to drinking every day
Truly dedicated

The TM squats seem to be working great so far, but I'd like to swap the bench progression for nuckols 3x int bench.

Do you think that swapping the order in which the days are organized would be ok? As in doing the 'test' day of nuckols on Monday, the volume squat day?

>>41842928
>Wierzbicki
>natty
literally no such thing as an honest polak. and screamers sober as of now

>>41841669
thanks bro (im >>41840723)

>>41843004
This, as a pole can confirm everyone here is on roids. My friend is in powerlifting university team and everyone in his team is on roids and his couch keeps telling him to start roiding.

>>41841669
If you think monetarism=keynesianism I'd request you read a book

>>41841988
no proof behind that

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Call your father

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>>41843968

>deadlift slightly more than 5 plates
>still have undeveloped uppertraps
should I start adding shrugs or do I simply need to diddly more

>>41844337
Heavy carries my nigga

>>41844337
Do face pulls

>>41843558
If you think I read books I'd request you read a book.

>>41842989
I wouldn't. The bench sessions can get kind of long but if you're doing volume pulls on Mon you could do them Tue instead along with some chest supported rows and curls and shit.

>>41844337
pls be for 10 reps, after having done 2 sets previously

Hi guys I just benched 2pl8 for 10 reps after having done 2 sets previously

Am I powerlifter now?

>>41844601
n-no thats my 3rm

>>41844619
U r 1ly a pwrlft if u complete and plan to complete on da calendat

t. Isley von sparrah

>>41844649
>havent metioned ipf
4/10 isley impersonation

>>41844664
Da EYE PEE EFF is da best w00t shout owt 2 da 665 money senpai!!!

>>41844760
cringy faggot kill yourself and honour your bet, weasel

>>41844664
Also I love Japs, fingering my butthole, and thinking of Livia

>>41844782
which bet was this?

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Would someone like to remind me how wanting a central bank to regulate currency supply to affect individuals decision making based upon purchasing power is the same thing as using fiscal spending to magically spur demand among individuals who don't want to spend their money?

>>41844795
literally every bet you ever made with me (since you lost them all being the brainlet that you are)

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reminder

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>>41844799
You can't legislate demand in a capitalist society

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BEHOLD THE POWER OF DISCRETIONARY FISCAL POLICY

im gonna be a fatass guy who picks up progressively heavier things by getting more and more obese, just for the fun of it

>>41844836
you don't need to tell me, that tell that to c",)

who seems to think that you can magically spend peoples money for them and then spur them to spend it themselves

>>41844836
depends what you mean by that though because manipulation of the currency supply WILL change demand and currency velocity

>>41844649
>>41844760
>>41844793
>>41844795
Dude
WEED
lmao

>>41844836
Good lad

>>41844843
Made me giggle desu

>>41840367

>no more brushes in curling

That's not even a remotely comparable analogy, you dumb fuck. No brushes in curling is like no barbells in powerlifting.

80kg OHP 1rm. Feels pretty good man.

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>semibait panzer about economics I don't know enough to argue with him about
>panzersperg ensues

mfw sorry lads.

>>41844922
Not going to argue the content of that shitpost with a Brazilian, narcissistic, larping, pedophile midget.

>>41845055
you should create content together with dietmar wolf instead lmao

>>41844857
He's Norwegian

Don't talk economics with a socialist

>>41845055
What do Norwegian economics classes teach??

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>>41844836
>file name
Kek
And my captcha is a commie remover to boot.

Thank God for all the brilliant 4chan economists who have figured out the entirety of economics and know all there is to know.

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>>41845248
Considering the recent budgets from the "elected" president across the pond, there's nothing to gain from talking economics with nearly every American.
>>41845390
You know I don't study economics, but based on what I can tell from Norway's economy, they teach roughly what to do and have case studies on USA regarding what not to do.

I'm doing manletdestiny novice lp right now, how the fuck am I supposed to continue adding weight with chin-ups when bulking?

I got 20kg for 3,3,3 at first, then 22.5kg for 2,2,2. I'm just supposed to keep repeating this until I get it, I'll probably go to 1.25 jumps.

Is this normal when bulking and should I just not worry about it? To go from 3x3 to 3x2 because I failed the weight is a reduction of 30% of the volume does that really matter at this stage?

Why do stock market crashes cause bank runs\

it just doesnt make any sense

>hey guys our bank is losing money on their loans and its probably not a good idea to withdraw money from them right now cause they will run out of their reserves quickly
>SO LETS FUCKING DO IT

I just dont get it

>>41845472
>"elected"
He was elected. No need for quotes

>using the US as an example
Good idea. Don't forget Germany while you're at it

How would I approach squatting daily

I heard if youre a newb it will give yous insane resulta real fast

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>>41845659
read the book senpai

>>41845684
Wat book

>tfw fat as fuck but if i cut now all the hard work and eating will have been for nothing

fml lads, 8 more weeks of hypertrophy

>>41845716
Squat every day

Matt perryman

>>41845636
Not any more elected than GWBush was, unless every source except the man's inner circle is mistaken. I'm not talking about Russia now, I'm talking about the popular vote.
>Germany
I'm sure Norway can learn a thing or two from Germany as well, but the main point about the USA is in many cases what -not- to do.

>>41845785
>popular vote

luckily coastal faggots and mexicans in their crammed squat houses don't get to decide how white americans live

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>>41835896
have any of you guys tried the Hybrid Performance powerlifting program? I'm on RTS guided programming, and it doesn't have as much hypertrophy work as I would like; it's also three times as expensive as Hybrid.

>>41845758
>started off skinny and am now fat
>too scared of being a skelly again to cut
>dont want to bulk and get fatter
>cant build muscle at maintenance

I dont know how to solve this without drugs t b h

>>41845785
>popular vote

Jesus christ unironically kys

>>41845785
popular vote is a discussion between 2 wolves and a sheep about whats for dinner

now kill yourself you democratic filth, democracy shouldn't even exist so we CERTAINLY dont need to intensify it

>>41845785
Good thing our election isn't based on popular vote
>US economics as what not to do
Well yeah nobody wants a debt based economy

>>41845785
Excellent bait lad

>>41845489
>I'm doing manletdestiny novice lp
literally what? Just do ss or canditos

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>>41845800
>white americans
Is that the American spirit?
>>41845871
What would you replace it with?
>>41845882
Yeah, the US track record certainly proves it's a good thing. The wars, climate change denial, health care removal, I'm sure there are plenty of examples of good outcomes of the electoral college selecting the better presidential candidate.
>>41845883
jiggle.webm

>>41845882
>nobody wants a debt based economy
Might as well wish water wasn't wet desu

>>41844809
Keys?

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>its a panzer reads a couple graphs from internet articles and now thinks he knows anything about economics episode

>people still actually, unironically support Trump

>>41846048
he did the same thing with tanks after he finished playing a tanks video game

>>41846082
How was your day? Visit any relatives? Leave the basement? Lift at all?

>>41845997
G-g-g-good o-o-one f-friend ;-;

>>41846111

Yeah I visited my dad, bought him a $64,000 dollar watch as a gift for fathers day

thats worth more than your car isn't it?

I don't have enough recovery capabilites to do SS.
Current lifts:
squat 110kilo
deadlift 125kilo
bench 67kilo
ohp 50kilo
power clean 60 kilo

I need to change over to a routine that is easier on the nervous system as this is to much for it. Does anyone have any ideas?
Either that or i have do decrease the training to 2 days a week but i don't want to do that i need the training. Its just squats and deads wear me the fuck out.

I am thinking of switching to a routine that is easier on the nervous system until i clear up some things that are causing me stress and lack of sleep and then maybe going back and completing SS and after that jumping on to Texas method if my recovery capabilities goes back when things are taken care of.

Any suggestions?

>>41846177
see
>>41840628
and dont forget sleep, at least 6-7 hours, try for 8.

>>41846177
How much do you sleep and are you in a caloric surplus? Also there are multiple phases to SS that you can go through if sleeping 8+ hours and eating a 250 kcal surplus doesn't help. https://blackironbeast.com/starting-strength

>>41846177
pls be for 10 reps, after having done 2 sets previously

>>41845997
>climate change denial
Kek
Good laff was had
Such a fucking swindle I can't believe it
>health care
Crony capitalism at its worst

>what would you replace it with
dude.

>>41835896
>PR day
>right after i'm "in the zone" and ive had all my preworkout and whatnot have to go help family with some trivial shit
>don't set a new PR

FOUR WEEKS, DOWN THE DRAIN

>>41846196
Eating 4k a day. Counting. (that is a surplus) I sleep 2-4 hours and i am zombiefied because of it. Its been like this for months. I need to change up my training until sleep is back.

I have great progress when i sleep enough, manage to get increases on every workout. Altough i have to start microloading on bench and oph now it seems.

>>41846215
I only sleep 2-4 hours which is why SS is to much for me and i am wondering if there are easier programs i can do until i can sleep again? Thanks for the link, very helpful summary!

>>41846244
Those stats are 3x5, deadlift 1x5, pc 5x3.

>>41846323
Ok that's a pretty extreme surplus, but the problem lies in your sleep.
Why can't you sleep?

anyone got a link to the Starting Strength PDF?

>>41846171
Oh no I don't own a car. You just seemed lonely so I figure I would talk to you. That was very gracious of you to buy that kind of gift for your father. What kind of watch was it?

>>41846323
you need to fucking sleep man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35N7cnN0vTM

EAT like a bear, LIFT like a bear, SLEEP like a bear

>>41846368
powerliftinggeneral.com

>>41846323
>I only sleep 2-4 hours which is why SS is to much for me and i am wondering if there are easier programs i can do until i can sleep again
Either start abusing caffeine or get more sleep. Even if you were to do really easy routines 2-4hours of sleep is not enough to manage long term.

>>41846339
Because depression, anxiety, bad sleeping spot. Trying to find another living place that is better but so far no luck.

I just don't know what to do. Working on fixing my life and all and fitness has been a cornerstone of it. I can't stop working out that just makes me depressed and shitty, but now this lack of sleep and lifting heavy destroys me. I heard different type of training its not so heavy on the nervous system and don't require that much recovery like doing heavy compunds do.

Ripptoe says if you wanna get strong you gotta eat. So i try and get 4000k and i am still not fat or above 20% bodyfat.

Its pretty shit desu

So I'm new to conventional. Been slowly working my way up. If I take my time and go slow the form looks great, but today I decided to go 495 for two. It felt super easy, but the form was ugly. Any advice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxw6cR9TKX4

>>41846389
The only time the body repairs itself and builds more muscle is during sleep. You gotta figure out how to sleep more.

>>41846389
lack of sleep has an awful impact on your mental health and your depression can be a result of that, i experienced this myself. just do something to get cozy and get yourself sleep, you need it.

>>41846375
>powerliftinggeneral.com
thank you fat retard

>>41845997
unelected meritocratic autocracy of about 20 or so people that hold absolute power and are appointed by a transitory government leading society out of democracy and into an autocracy

this is going to be outlined in my manifesto whenever I finish it

>>41846250
>swindle
Governments being opportunistic about it doesn't make it any less real/overwhelmingly likely of being real.
>health care
I just think it's a basic principle of a society to provide affordable health services by its inhabitants to its inhabitants.
>>41846437
Do you have any particular reason to prefer meritocracy over technocracy? And how have you come to think that autocracy is the ultimate solution? As far as I know, it hasn't really worked anywhere up until now.

I'll be awaiting your manifesto, offered to me free of charge.

>>41846389
riptoe diet advice is shit tier. Just eat slightly above TDEe

>>41846437
Does your Manifesto end with a threat to world leaders that you're going to be under their bed at 3:45 a.m.?

>>41846398
>>41846420
Alright! Guess i'll just get more sleep lol

>>41844760
>>41844793
>>41844795
Isley Isley Isley
You never learn mang ye supermang.

>>41846510
correct me if I'm wrong since I'm kindof ignorant about technocracy but isnt that literally just

>haha Im the best engineer so I'm gonna run the government

if so that's dumb

Meritocracy holds the inherent benefit of allowing those with the perceived best skill in a respective government related field to run the government

think politiburo I guess

and autocracy in practice has been plagued with dictatorships(which I absolutely oppose), monarchies(which I absolutely oppose) and incompetency in the form of nepotism

an actual meritocratic governing body can avoid the problem of dictatorships that centralize all power into one person who can wind up being a retard and acting in anger or foolishness or whatnot and destroy a nation while a group of people have balances to each other to not let one person ruin the country, and their ability to choose their successors allows the vision of the governing party to continue onward indefinately and not be at the mercy of polls

how are these two different

>meritocracy

those with the best experience in a field are in power

>technocracy

those with the most knowledge in a field are in power

don't these go hand in hand?

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>>41846706
>meritocracy
>those with the best experience in a field are in power

>>41846609
I'm not too full of knowledge on the subjects either, but it's more like specialists within fields get to me ministers of the relevant departments. So the Minister of Finance is required to have both extensive education and work experience within finance (proven competence) to be the minister. Makes sense to me, because our current Minister of Health and Care Services has studied law (one year), hotel management (two years), has only four years of practical work experience from various positions at a small hotel, and seems like an absolute idiot.

I think you have too much faith in the rationality of people, and especially the rationality of people in power. Every country's leaders prove they work primarily for themselves and their friends, and secondary for just enough people to still be in power.
>>41846706
I think the bottom is primarily specialised knowledge and experience and the top is general (and high degree of) competence in e.g. leadership. Not sure I made sense here.

>>41846375
>>41846427
do NOT click that link, it is INFESTED with MALWARE because of a certain STINKY individual who made the site

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>been benching 3x a week for over 6 months
>still don't have a 225lbs bench
>haven't done an OHP in well over 6 months
>casually OHP 120lbs cold just cause it was set up
>ez
>wait 1min and put 135lbs on the bar for the memes
>actually get it
I fucking hate this hobby

does anyone here train their abdominal muscles directly? what exercises do you do?

>>41846819
Occasionally. Ab wheels, planks (weighted/unweighted), leg raises for some spinal decompression (kinda tricky to get right, tho).

>>41846819
I try to ab wheel a few times a week. Compound movements developing your core is a meme, gotta hit that shit separately to best results.

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>>41846802

Sounds like you should mix intensity and volume a little more.

Also eat more, brace better, try harder and build momentum.

>>41846835
Will you ever tell us what your lifts are?
Do you think people here will be able to doxx you based on your lifting numbers?

Or are you just weak?

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>>41846785
Wow good looking out thanks amigo

>>41846510
>doesn't make it less likely
Seriously consider your sources here. The people that benefit from global warming being what it's chocked up to be are in a position to gain A LOT ( e.g. gore and carbon credits)

>>41846802
>tfw it took me almost a year to go from 185 to 225 bench

Just living that GDE life

>>41846819
weighted situps, either GHD or normal

>>41846782
I'm still debating with myself (ie why my manifesto is far from complete) whether it would be better to have specialized departments like you said or to have basically what amounts to shining example posterboys of the party with high levels of knowledge in the tenants of the party

cause I could forsee for example the department of education opposing the department of defense over funding issues and this leading to deadlock while a more generalized group of individuals with similar goals and mindsets could much easier come to agreement which satisfies both fields to the best degree

but at the same time you have to ask yourself "well im either going to need to find the most intelligent superhumans in my country who know literally everything or there is going to have to be some degree of specialization which could lead to some conflicts in decision making"

manifestos are an individuals life work in my opinion so I will have a long time to think this over but I lean more twoards the general knowledge seeing as there will be less conflicts of interests that way

>>41846879
*department of economics and department of defense

not education and defense lmfao

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>>41846875
>The Geologic History of the Earth demonstrates that there is absolutely nothing unprecedented about the levels of CO2 today historically
>Graph doesn't show CO2 levels in any way

if you deny the human influence on the changing climate you are an idiot

if you think there is anything we can do about it right now other than increase our research into renewable energy to make it ACTUALLY VIABLE IN THE LARGE SCALE you are also an idiot

solar and wind in their current forms and terribly expensive per kilowatt hour in reference to coal or natural gas, give it 10 or 20 years and we probably will have wide scale viable renewable energy that is more efficient than fossile fuels

but for now that's not the case, not only startup costs but its literally more expensive per kilowatt hour to use a solar array, plus power companies have problems distributing it consistently due to the whole you know, cloud=decreased output meme

personally I like nuclear power but people are little crybabies about it

tldr, climate change is real but there are no models that predict we can cause run-away climate change and there isnt really anything we can do about it right now so its not a big deal

>>41846865
Afraid to eat more since I have to make weight a while from now.
I'm able to qualify for Collegiate Nationals just because of my squat and deadlift, so benching is vanity for me at this point.

>>41846875
Wew I guess those roids really did make you a mong, that graph doesnt even talk about carbon.

Just because the earth warms and cools on its own doesn't mean we aren't affecting it at a drastic rate. It's not even a question of whether you belive it or not it makes sense in terms of energy security to move away from depleting resources.

And before people start raving about nuclear, it's useless for anything other than base load and even then it's more expensive that renewable alternatives.

>>41846873
It's getting less and less likely. I'll probably leave this place in a month or two.
>>41846875
I have considered who will profit on both sides, and what the consequences are depending on which side is right. Have you? Have you heard about the oil companies themselves hiding their knowledge of climate change since the 90s?
97% of climate scientists agree that it is almost completely certain that change is caused by man-made pollution, so consider for a moment what is easier/more logical: paying off 3% to argue 97%, or pay 97% to spout and craft meticulous reports and models to cash in on taxes?
I'm starting to feel stupid for not realising you're giving the bait just enough effort to be credible, now.

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>>41846960
>solar and wind in their current forms and terribly expensive per kilowatt hour in reference to coal or natural gas, give it 10 or 20 years and we probably will have wide scale viable renewable energy that is more efficient than fossil fuels

Stop living in a decade in the past. Right now utility scale solar and wind are competitive with natural gas. Also building them on a utility scale avoids issues with grid stability. The "muh clouds" argument is a meme. With current weather forecasting and historical data you have a highly reliable 5-7 day outlook for weather and therefore production. This can be fed to a conventional fuel plant operating in tandem with the renewable utility to adjust output.

Coal isn't price competitive anymore. Today the cheapest energy would be a natural gas plant supplemented by wind or solar, depending on what works with your geography.

>>41847017
Natural gas plus wind work well together, since gas has a fast ramp up time you can run them side by side. Use the wind when there is wind and use the gas when their isn't.

>>41846960
>there isnt really anything we can do about it right now so its not a big deal

What a stupid line of thinking. Global warming has the potential to crash crop production and displace over a third of the worlds population. That's a huge fucking deal. The fact that we won't be able to stop warming doesn't make the consequences of it any less severe.

>>41847029
That's basically the best way to run energy right now. Your utility uses a forecast to say "we're going to provide x amount of energy at y time of day" and your natural gas plant ramps up or down around that. It also avoids the cost and logistics of energy storage that you get into for moving entirely to renewables.

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>>41846979
Tfw when all the trips are leaving, didn't realize how much I cared about /plg/ until now. Nothing lasts forever. I'll probably stop posting as well now that /fit/ is just /r9k/ and /pol/ 2.0 nowadays. I remember when I actually learned shit from this place, when it wasn't just bitter virgins and DYEL Reddit posters.

>>41847017
where's the scale that accounts for the US only having 10 hours of daylight 1/4th of the year?

>>41847087
You're talking about capacity factor, which accounts for how many hours of the day are actually used for generation. That is taken into account for the image I posted. You can read the whole study here:

https://www.lazard.com/media/438038/levelized-cost-of-energy-v100.pdf

Coal power is assumed to have a 93% capacity factor, gas combined cycle has an 80% capacity factor, wind has a 55% capacity factor and utility solar has a 30% capacity factor.

>>41846879
Conflict of interest in e.g. funding is what scares me about technocracy, but I don't think it can be avoided in any system. Though I'll admit the problem of undervaluing diminishes with meritocracy, I also think honesty and realism is integral to both meritocracy and technocracy so as to avoid collective undervaluing of certain departments (you can for example find instances where today's parties completely disregard certain political subjects). A fundamental prerequisite to both systems is to rely mostly on objectivity rather than subjectivity, which should also diminish interest conflicts.

I think a combination similar to what we have today is best, i.e. remove incompetent people (the Minister of Health, as I mentioned) for generally competent people, who make decisions based on professionals' research reports. Doesn't remove the bias, but it is a huge step forward at least.
>>41847062
Sorry about the poltalk the past two threads.
I remember those times as well. I sometimes just go to the archive and look up old threads, as they always contain some small nuggets of wisdom.

Reason for leaving is that I expect the likelihood of being recognised to grow substantially when I get a job and move somewhere. With all the stuff I've posted the past two and a half years, I cannot afford that to happen.

>>41846979
>condescending
Nice, faceguy.
Fact of the matter is legislation like Paris deal cost Americans trillions of dollars and will have little- to no appreciable impact on global warming ("climate change" if you're an in-the-loop numale leftist). That is not how America wins. Also, do you think manufacturing is done more efficiently and cleaner here or in a shit hole third world country? Have you considered the cost of creating "sustainable energy" sources? Chemicals involved in that are horrendous and far more damaging than the scary "carbon" monster that people freak the fuck out again.

>>41846967
Wew I guess the memes got to your head, 10 years ago Al Gore was all but crying on stage about birds hatching too early and will be extinct if we don't pay for his carbon credits. We're talking about global warming here don't move the goalposts. What is unusual about that chart undulation?
>m-muh polar bears
This is nothing the polar bears haven't seen already

>>41846960
Deny human influence

>>41847209
>deny human influence
Was gonna actually reply but remembered that it's panzy I'm talking to

>>41846967
nuclear power has a capacity value of 90% as published by the EIA while solar has a CV of fucking 25% and wind has a CV of 41%

>>41847017
as according to the EIA in their 2016 report, its projected that by 2022 which is 5 more years of research solar power or wind power will only be price competetive with advanced combined cycle natural gas methods of generation after subsidies of around 20% each, paired with the fact that the CV values are less than half and the capital requirements for wind are over 2 times greater and solar would be almost 4 times greater

by 2040 however they are projected to be just about price cometetive with ACC natural gas without subsidy

they wont give any projections on coal cause they are gay and pretend trump wont liberate the coal industry


tldr, even by 2022 it will still need 20% subsidy to function as good as existing technology which doesn't need subsidy and government has no place spending money on a literal waste when other options are availiable

>>41846250
>Crony capitalism

Historical inibitability

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>>41846979
>>41846979
>I'll probably leave this place in a month or two.

it has to eventually happen. It's such a shitty place.

>>41847209
I wish I could sit down witchu and have a discussion bout dat dere climate change

It's an interesting topic, especially when you get into the mechanics of why people disagree or agree with it. I have very mixed feelings on the paris accord, but you're not incorrect when you say it arbitrarily cost americans alot of money. Unfortunately, the amount and the reasoning wasn't completely bogus; it's just that it doesn't make good PR. Obama went in on the deal because it was easy, no repercussion good PR - Trump pulled us out of for the same reason. Another testament to the fact that discussion of climate change doesn't actually matter, it's the culture war and polarization that drives most discourse on it currently.
>>41847245
While i'm still a strong proponent of wind and solar development, I strongly agree that humanity is shooting itself straight in the foot by not shedding it's negative view of nuclear. Nuclear is undeniably the future.

>>41847245
https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/aeo/pdf/0383(2017).pdf

>Most of the wind capacity used to comply with the Clean Power Plan (CPP) is built prior to the scheduled expiration of the production tax credit for wind plants coming online by the end of 2023, although wind is still likely to be competitive without the tax credits.
>Many wind projects would be economic without the tax credits

From that report wind is already competitive and will be more competitive with tax credits. Wind is dirt cheap right now.

>>41847194
I would hope people wouldn't doxx you but there are people like Sean out there. I've been posting here since around 2013 and I don't know anywhere near enough about you to identify you irl, I can't imagine how much effort it would take searching through the archives. You were one of the good trips who I learned a lot from, anyways good luck with life.

wow, my max went up my 10 lbs on the first 2 weeks of nuckols 3x int bench.
week 3 looks pretty hard though

>>41847245
>nuclear power has a capacity value of 90% as published by the EIA while solar has a CV of fucking 25% and wind has a CV of 41%

Capacity factor is irrelevant unless you're trying to rely entirely on that one source, which no one is suggesting because that's retarded. Nuclear right now is a terrible option for a few reasons. Mainly it's fucking expensive. Pro nuclear people always oversell the product and underestimate costs. D&E costs alone balloon for nuclear projects. Nuclear projects have a reputation of costing 2-4x more than promised. They also take a decade or so to actually build a plant, and the capital cost is about 10x the capex for a natural gas plant. It's very difficult to look at nuclear from a financial standpoint and decide that's the best option over everything else on the market. Natural gas or natural gas + renewables is much more competitive right now.

>>41847209
>>condescending
>Nice, faceguy.
Any less condescending than the slightly more humorous >>41845248, >>41845390, and >>41846250?
Regardless, I apologise.
>That is not how America wins
It's about the world.
>Also
It's about the world. How much has the USA polluted up until now and benefited from it, and how much has a shit hole third world country polluted and benefited from up until now? We're in this together, and need to see the past and the future. I don't eat half the turkey and then offer to share the last half 50/50 with you, I offer you the other half and accept that I've had my fair share.
I don't know much about the damaging chemicals, but I gather they are a part of the technological development the same way we disinfect a flesh wound with liquor - hurts like fuck, but at least we don't get an infection (bad analogy, okayokay).
>>41847316
I've occasionally posted enough to link me to a name, e-mail, and phone number tbH, which was rather unwise. It's not that I can be recognised on the street, but it's by seeing that dude at the gym doing what I do, being new and having my education, droplets that can be too revealing, so I've decided it's best to avoid that.
Good to hear you've learned something, though I hope I haven't misinformed you. Good luck with your life, too.

>>41847286
It's an incorrect line of thinking to look at the Paris agreement and say "that's it". The point of the Paris agreement was to bind 140+ nations into a climate agreement and use that as a stepping stone for future action. The point of the Paris agreement was to get everyone to sit at the same table.

>>41847209
>That is not how America wins

Talk about seeing the forest for the trees. Global warming will displace billions, creating the greatest refugee crisis ever seen. It will crash crop production, spread disease and work to unravel the environmental status quo that has existed for the entirety of human history. But hey, at least the American economy didn't have to take a hit to curb the warming effects.

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Good night tho, lads. It's fucking 4am.

>>41847312
you're actually right I misread that report

I've been arguing all day it was bound to happen lmao

but anyways, I will say again, these figures are for new sources of power, existing coal plants pump out electricity at like 32 bucks per mWh which is great

and do you have any sources on how many locations in the US are actually viable areas to use wind farms

I cant be fucked right now after doing it all day

>>41847408
you are missing the point

the immediate consequences are unavoidable

you are insane if you think we will magically abandon our super cheap sources of fossil fuel for energy, so that's not stopping anytime soon

what's going to happen at this point(whatever that may be) is going to happen, as the technology develops it will become more and more viable to implement and we will see it introduced

also your fear mongering meme doomsday scenario is also triggering

>>41847579
Not that guy but it would be totally reasonable to be 90% renewable/nuclear generation by 2050 without electricity prices increasing more than they already are.

Most of those coal plants are passed there used by date and need to decommissioned / replaced with will cost money anyway.

>>41847667
>>41847667
>>41847667

WAWTT/tomorrow
>Low bar 3x6
>Comp Bench 3x8
>Dips 3x10
>Face Pull bullshit
>Ab wheel

Today is 105% day in Sheiko. Ive been waiting for this. Time to finally do 5 plates. T minus 12 hours. Wish me luck brehs