>looking good, man. What kind of martial arts do you practice?

cock fights

Boxing, I do 12 rounds daily after lifting.
Almost always on the heavy bag, a bit of shadow boxing, very rarely with a partner (spar/mitts).

I jack off a lot.

I fuck your mom and beat her to death aftetwards

>>41825898
BJJ. Been rolling for about two years. Still a white belt, but I know some of the contrabands that can cripple people.

Judo

The martial art of seduction.

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Krav Maga

>>41825954
all the submissions can cripple/kill people you dope.

you tickling them??

>>41826062
I mean the actually banned ones. Heel hook, calf slicer, and the like.

>>41825936
My nigga.

I've stopped lifting for boxing.

Heavy bag is my only form of resistance training these days. I judge how hard I hit against the sound it makes on the bag. I'm so close to that Mike Tyson power it's unreal.

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>>41826085
>banned ones
in some competition levels yea
i seriously hope your school doesn't focus solely on competition and also trains takedowns/standup and actual streetfight defense tactics

>>41826156
I don't want to turn this into a striking be grappling debate, but how do you roll on concrete and broken glass?

Anyone has a chart for getting into a martial art?

I've been practicing Nanto Seiken for 3 years. I haven't had as much time for lifting, and lost a bit of strength, but at least I can kick ass in a fight now.

>>41826160
Are you 70 years old? do you think you'd break a hip if you fell to the ground??

>>41826156
We've done pretty much all of the basics. Standup, takedown, and clinch. It's not just ground game. We don't do any striking though, so I'm thinking of picking up Muay Thai in a couple of years.

We're mostly sport, but most of it has actual uses.

>>41826209
Not that guy, but it depends on the level of the takedown. A good double leg onto concrete can give you a hell of a concussion.

>>41826160
You accept getting cut up and bruised in exchange for beating his ass? Also, don't roll against a guy with friends around, especially if he's a nigger. The moment he starts to lose you'll get kicked in the head.

>>41826209
No. But I don't want broken glass in my back. Nor do I want my head stomped on by a bystander.

>inb4 90% of fights go to ground

>>41826186
I can help you. Are you a manlet or tall?
I. E. You got good reach?

If not a manlet, then striking. Otherwise grappling.

Do you want to keep lifting?
If yes go grappling.
If no go striking.

The approved grappling stuff is bjj and judo.
The approved striking is boxing and muay Thai. Maybe sambo if your instructor is legit.

Anything eastern other than those, avoid like the plague. Stuff like wing chun, tai Chi, karate etc. Avoid.

As a general rule of thumb, if they don't have full contact sparring, don't bother.
On the other hand if they only do full contact sparring, don't bother either.

>>41826225
Think about it like this: You start standing up. If you train grappling, not only is it easier for you to stay standing up, but you'll know what to do when you're on the ground.

>>41826246
>On the other hand if they only do full contact sparring, don't bother either.
Why not? Never heard this before.

I watch anime. I'm sure I could use one of those fighting moves in real life.

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>>41826282
>yfw the move actually works and you end up being charged for murder

>>41826246
>grappling
But i don't want to touch other men on the ground.

None, but I did boxing for 8 years

>>41826274
some gyms train with the philosophy that you fight like you train.
so every session they have their fighters spar full contact.
the fighters get more and more worn out and injured.

you dont learn as much from full contact sparring as you do semi, especially when youre starting out.
plus you wont last as long. fighters from those gyms fight well, but dont last very long, and only know how to fight styles they've seen before.

an example would be learning to parry.
you learn to parry a lead jab by getting the feel of how to parry, then parrying it against a light slow hit, then a light full speed hit, then a heavy full speed hit.
if you are just starting to learn how to parry, and the guy does a heavy full speed hit, odds are you'll miss it and take one in the face.
so you dismiss parries as useless and abandon it, in favour of a strong guard.
but when you come up against a guy who hits hard but is slow, he will hit through your guard, and because you dont know how to parry, you'll get fucked.

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>>41826324
I see. Thanks.

>>41826291
judo is more takedowns than throws.
i did it for a bit.

but i prefer to hit people. its much easier and less risky.

>>41826186
Start with grappling and then go into striking. I assume you don't actually want your brain cells getting punched out yet.

Grappling: BJJ, Combat Sambo, Judo, and Wrestling. Greco-Roman is not as good as others in my opinion, but it's fine. Sambo is iffy in most places, but if you can find an actually legit instructor, it's pretty deadly.

Striking: Kickboxing, Muay Thai, and certain forms of Karate and Tae Kwon Do. GSP and Bas Rutten both do Kyokushin, and Bas and Joe Rogan got their start in Tae Kwon Do. A lot of people shit on it, but a lot of it's useful in actual practice.

Most "traditional" martial arts are bullshit. You can pull bits and pieces from each, but overall, it's not worth it to learn. Don't fall for the "death punch" or whatever the fuck they're coming up with nowadays. search up "Bas Rutten fake martial arts" on youtube, and he gives a great breakdown and explanation of some of the shit you'll see.

And don't fall for the "Our techniques are too deadly to spar with" bullshit. If it's so strong that anyone can just kill someone on the street with a touch to the spine or whatever the fuck, you shouldn't be teaching it in the first place. And if you're so advanced that you can kill with a touch, you should be able to not kill too.

Lastly, if you're wondering about the effectiveness of "MMA" as opposed to say Tai Chi, search up "Chinese MMA vs Tai Chi" and watch the results. Similar results will follow for most other "traditional" martial arts.

Good luck.

>>41826291
That's fine, but if they want to touch you on the ground, and you have no way of stopping it, you're gonna end up getting touched anyways. So it's better to just develop it now, and hope that you won't have to use it.

>>41826377
you realize that almost all karate and TKD is semi contact right?
they stop the fight if you hit too hard.

>>41826402
What do you want from me dude? I specified that certain forms of Karate and TKD are worth your time. In terms of Karate, specifically Kyokushin. How much clearer can I make it?

>>41826422
calm down, man. that's most likely some other guy

>>41826422
you realize that TKD originally had hand strikes right?
you realize that it fell out of favour since kicks scored more points and had longer reach right?
you realize that at this point its basically a meme MA right?

fucking casual.

I can't find a school in my area to do kyokushin

anyone know anything similar I could look into? I'd like to do silat too but that's even harder to find

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>>41826211
basics is all you need, as they are the most effective
our instructor always says to be brilliant on the basics. a white belts guard pass vs a black belts guard pass may look fundamentally the same, but the the minuscule details that have been drilled in are insane. same goes with the saying "don't practice until you get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong"

>>41826128

> I'm so close to that Mike Tyson power it's unreal.

Sure you are bub

>>41826477
I've noticed that with my side mount actually. I've got a friend at Cait Terra's gym, and he's a blue belt there. Whenever he's side mounting me it feels like he's breaking my face. When I'm mounting him, he pushes me off like a helium balloon.

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>>41825898
Been doing Kickboxing for 4 years, recently moved to Muay Thai, enjoying that far more. The competitive scene isn't that large for kickboxing due to its retarded rules. You can ofcourse go K1 but then why not just go Muay Thai completly?

>>41826518
what rules specifically?

Savate. Preparing to get my yellow gloves.

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>>41826535
Kickboxing seems to be moving in the direction of TKD. Kicks score more points and are often more encouraged to do by my coaches. Judges seem them more easily and getting like a kick to the head scores 2 points compared to the rest, but if its just a tinsy bit too hard you get a warning. Punches rarely score points unless they are done in a combination that impresses the judges (I.e you dominate the fight). Mind you this is all in low to mid contact.

>>41826246

>Anything eastern other than those, avoid like the plague.

"Wrong."

>>41826506
Ever tried pushing your feet into the mat? Like a calf press. Makes you heavier

>>41826567
wow. bad luck.
do you prefer dutch style or traditional?

>>41826569

Provide a decent argument you fucking degenarate.

>>41826574
I think I have. I've always stuck with "knee in armpit, knee on hip, and underhook on head". If I close my grips, then I can shoulder of justice.

>>41826581
Ye, my last fight I got warned twice, once for putting to much force in to a kick and once for making it look like my hook was about to K.O the guy. The latter also got stopped before the hook even hit..

Dutch style is my favourite, it feels really similar to Muay Thai due to its relation with K1, clinching and all that.

>>41826585
Not that guy, but Kyokushin Karate is pretty useful. Several high level MMA fighters like Bas Rutten and GSP do it.

>>41826585

A personal trainer in my gym does Wing Chun, was trained by the guy who trained Bruce Lee, and could fucking murder your ass.

>>41825898
I stopped all martial arts when I started going to college. They were really fun and all but at the end of the day you can only have a few hobbies and I decided lifting was a better choice.

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>>41826585
>>41826585
Full contact sparring? I've done it a few times but it's not really that rewarding except that you get your ass beat by some guy whos like 1 or 2 weight classes above you..

>>41826609
Not that guy, but the guy at your gym was not trained by Ip Man. And even if he was, he'd be fucking sixty or seventy something. It wouldn't be hard to ground and pound him.

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>>41826609
>Bruce Lee
Ip Man trained Bruce Lee and he died in 1972, nice b8 m8.

>>41826632
>>41826636

>tfw you admit you'd get murdered by some geriatric fuck

>>41826246
>manlets must stick to grappling meme
Buakaw is 5'9", Mcnugget is 5'8.5", Saenchai is 5'5" and mayweather is 5'8"

>>41826655
This.

Saenchai is also known for going up against people who are taller and even heavier than him.
For example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szr5cLdvhvM

>>41826619
You know those techniques you drill during your training secessions? You're supposed to use those techniques in an actual fight or competition. The only way to make sure you can do that is to actually put you in those situations. That's what sparring is supposed to do. So if you're getting your ass beat, it means you don't actually have your techniques down.

This does not mean that you should spar less and train more. Quite the opposite. Balance is key.

>>41826669
Lankey cuck btfo

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>>41826209

None, I'm just interested in strength.

>>41826655
this. Remember that time when mayweather defeated big show

>>41826671
I was making a point man, most gyms par you up with some bloke whos probably several times better. I only go full contact sparring with two people at my gym who I know I can learn from in that sense.

>>41826677
Well its Saenchai man, hes been a top fighter for over 20 years, ofcourse this newblood would get a beating.

>>41826709
Yes he has been on top for many years because he has dominated. You think another guy that was at least average height or above never came by?
>>41826705
What is your point?

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>>41826684
>poor lack of control
>not knowing how to fall/throw correctly

I don't think there's anything wrong with wing chun or karate or whatever.

If you're doing it for fun, as a hobby etc it's fine, even for self defense it's fine, if you are proficient in wing chun or akido you would still wreck like 90% of untrained normies.

Against other martial arts though it doesn't stack up too well, you get mugged or get into a fight with someone with bjj and muay Thai training you'll get fucked up.

So it's a choice

No martial arts = if you are strong you might be ok

Mcdojo martial arts = decent hobby but only useful against normies or people within your sport

Top tier martial arts = can wreck normies, and wreck other martial artists.


The dawn of mma has shown what's useful and efficient, and what isn't.

>>41826128
The only thing unreal is the statement you just made

>>41826742
I'd say that Mcdojos are worse than no training at all. It's better for someone to have no gun than a gun that doesn't work.

>>41826751

I disagree

As long as a tai chi practitioner doesn't try using his moves in a fight, or that old guy that was sending people flying across the room with his "chi" even a pretty shitty martial art is better than nothing.

>>41826751
I agree with you.
If person A learned some bs in a mcdojo and person B just went on with his life and they were to fight, person B would use natural instincts to deliver hard blows on A while A would try some stupid shit and fall.
>>41826797
You have to realize that no one will take a martial art if he knows its shit. If Bobby has been taking karate classes hes gonna think hes unbeatable and use his shitty wheel kick against someone.

>>41826684
is he deded?

>>41826606
lol really?
thats weak shit man. sorry to hear.

>>41826797
>>41826742
ive done wing chun for 4 years.
ive done boxing for 3 years.

I trained legit. under the chu shong tin lineage, who got it from ip man and was with him for the longest. The guy i learned it from trained under chu shong tin directly. I trained 3 days a week, more on weekends.

its useless. it advocates suboptimal techniques, has shitty footwork and is less mobile than boxing. additionally it lacks hook defense. there's a lot more i could go into detail about if you want.

Boxing on the other hand was useful within the first week.
in the end it comes down to strength, speed, mobility and experience. that's all striking is.

if i could do it again i'd rather have 7 years of boxing under my belt vs my current split.
the only thing that wing chun maybe useful for is reflex counterpunching, but even that can be developed way faster through sparring.

>>41826824
yeah dumbass snapped his own neck trying to suplex the other guy into fucking concrete

>>41825898

Grenade throwing

>>41826246
>>41826585
The OP pic has trained in karate and is a fucking beast in the UFC. I can tell they of you're being so broad and just banning eastern styles of fighting then you're retarded. I personally wouldn't participate in them on the simple fact that they weren't made for someone of my stature. 6'4 and 230 lbs isn't too good for wing chun

Get out of here uri
>>41826046

>>41826921
its about the fact they dont ever train full contact. you never know if your techniques are effective or not.

and wing chun works for bigger guys too. it just takes different angles.

>>41826655
Yea but they're all Asians or Americans and these races are notorious for being tiny manlets on average. They spent most of their time fighting other people the same size as them (that's what weight classes are for, after all).

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>>41826128

>>41826609
Bruce Lee was a shit fighter any half decent boxer his time would have rekt him.

That much about your shitty trainer.

i have been doing kickboxing for 3 years now but i moved and now that gym is too far away and the closest is a boxing gym..
anyone know the transition from kickboxing to boxing?
am 6'4 220 btw

>>41825898
Masturbation

>>41827151
except he partook in professional boxing matches and won, fuckface

>>41827966
I did Mt for a bit before boxing.

Stance is slightly wider. Hands up always. Never drop gloves below the belt. No kicks, so weight distribution is always 50:50. Clinch range is for hooks and uppercuts only.
Also, if you're like me, your hands are shit. Get better hands through shadow boxing

>>41827966
Do less kicks and more punches

YOURE WELCOME

>>41826195
I've been doing Hokuto Shinken since I was a teen but my teacher is a fag lol

>>41828025
thanks for the advice man
i used my hands more often than legs anyway cause i have super long reach and i just jabbed in the most boring manner so that's probably what i am gonna do in boxing too lol

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>>41826128

You realize mike tyson was super high test and lifted all the time right?

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>>41825898
About to sign up for MMA classes. Will also buy a punching bag.

>>41826929
who dis

>>41828115
I thought my jabs were good till I started boxing. Then I realised how to do a proper job. Like one that you can knock somebody out with, as opposed to merely scoring or finding reach.

>>41828246
Don't bother. Mma is grappling focused. It's all about the ground and pound these days.

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i know the law inside and out and I am not afraid to sue - it is most powerful and jewish of all the known martial arts.

>>41825954
>BJJ for two years
>Still a white belt

>>41826797
done a bit of tai chi here
nobody tries, or is telling you to try, the forms in a proper fight. They're for manipulating balance and solidifying the lowest-attrition, most natural ways for a human body to move. It's a good base which lets you pick up other martial arts much more quickly and effectively
And for those lifelong tai chi practitioners, they're not doing it to be great fighters, they're doing it as a full-on lifestyle choice. think eastern meditation and mysticism and shit

boxing, mma, jkd, dabbled in tkd
>inb4 jkd is a meme
i'll have you know I've won 2 tournaments when switching to a jkd stance

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Muay Thai since I saw a documentary on TV about it. I hated boxing but I fell in love with it when I saw men with muscles hugging each other after punching each other in the face.

I love Muay Thai.

None. I lift weights.

>>41825898
This twat thinks he looks like Conor

>>41830684
Its gunnar nelson who conor has been training with since he got into thw ufc. Thy have similar karate style stances but what gunnar lacks in striking he makes up on the matt

>>41829790
What can I say? Maybe I'm just terrible.

>>41826863
Are you serious? Source on this?

>>41827996
He partook in amateur matches of his fucking school.
Anything apart from that is never confirmed or recorded.

He couldn't fight for shit, he did martial arts for movies and acting, that's it.

>>41830973
Did we not watch the same video?!

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>>41825898
The cock suck jutsu.

>>41825936
>Vary rarely with a partner

Your not boxer briefs

>>41826195
No you can't

>>41825898
meme fighting

>>41825898
>nice gyno. What roids are you taking

>>41830973
if you watch the webm again, the guy lying on the floor with a floppy neck at the end is the same guy that tried to suplex the kind of twinky looking guy in the shirt

Judo, testing for nikyu next month

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>>41825898
A couple of times open hand then I'd cock back my fist and plant one right in the middle of his nose.

Yeah. Yeah that'll do nicely.

Next manlet dyel on the list:
[X] McGregor
[ ] Memeweather
[ ] Tyson

>>41826477

I'm probably being stupid, but can anyone talk me through what is going on in this picture?


Am I right in thinking that white - blank slate with no tools

Blue - people try too hard to learn every possible technique

Purple - refine, and discard the unnecessary techniques

Brown - refine further, master a couple of tools

Black - Master purple belt techniques??

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>>41833487
Winner

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>>41833662
>>41826477

Which is most accurate?

>>41825898
I watch anime

>>41825898
Gunfu

>OP
>ninjutsu
does anywhere that claims to teach ninjutsu do the full range? ie weapons training, climbing, infiltration etc

>>41826040
*slow clap*
Thank you Zapp Brannigan

>>41826246
> If not a manlet, then striking. Otherwise grappling.

Who is Rocky Marciano, Joe Frazier, Harry Greb...

>>41830982
>amateur boxers cant be good

>>41828034
Underrated post

>>41834705
>these 3 manlets prove that all manlets should try striking MA

>>41826684
was one of them moot

>>41829790
Some gyms like Gracie Barra promote on number of classes attended.

Some smaller more casual gyms hand out stripes like crazy.

Then you have some schools with high cailber guys/legit lineage where you often see white belts go 2+ years without their blue. Up side to that is you tend to bag competitions.

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>>41826085
Jesus Christ. Calf Slicers are only banned for lower belts. Heel hooks are banned in most, but not all competitions.

>>41826246
Never post here again

>>41826506
Caio Terra is by far the least threatening looking badass I have ever seen. Looks like a gay elf. Good half-guard DVD.

Side control is the first position I got good at due to our coach being a former D1 wrestler+shooto. It's not necessarily about crushing your opponent. It can be, but honestly I prefer a floating side control. Makes the opponent more tired and uses less energy on my end. But ultimately you want to be able to do both a crushing and a floating style of side control.

>>41833715
THANK YOU

read this list and stop arguing kids.

>>41836154
>>41833715
This list is shit and you people should feel bad.

For fucks sake, you listed "Combat Sambo," as though you could just go out to the "Combat Sambo" school and take "Combat Sambo".

The sport is fucking Sambo, Combat Sambo is a ruleset. You don't go do "Combat Sambo." You fucking train in Sambo and maybe eventually you start doing Combat Sambo. It is a different ruleset of the same sport. You aren't even allowed to do Combat Sambo until you have progressed through the ranks of Sambo in the Russian system.

Also

>Krav Maga

I'm so sick of you faggots who fucking LARPer scrubs.

>>41835944
>i've never fought an inside fighter before

get a load of this 2 ply faggot

>>41836221
krav maga is for killing people and winning knife and gunfights in close quarters

it is not for anybody on /fit/ aside for the small handful who are still milfags or pmc's

>>41833715
Whoever made this has no idea what they're talking about-

It's entirely possible to learn a high standard of Muay Thai outside of Thailand. Foreign fighters can beat Thais lol

>>41836251
Incorrect. Krav Maga is for separating stupid Goyim from their shekels.

Krav Maga is one of the most McDojo martials arts you could possibly take.

My instructor, some of his former training partners, and students actually work with high level spec ops guys and LEO.

>>41836251
Do you really think that?

Is Systema worth getting into? Apparently you can drop people with their weird punches.

>>41836267
>>41833715
The list was so stupid, that I didn't bother reading the details. The fact that it says that is beyond retarded.

There are a ton of legitimate schools all over the world. America has a ton, and surprisingly so does Canada (very good Muay Thai fighters up there, believe I would never say anything nice about Canada if I didn't have to).

I've known a number of people who have trained in Thailand. Many of them claim to have gotten better training in the US. Of course, they can communicate better with native English speakers. But beyond that, we have many Thai champions here teaching. We've had at least 3 in the state in the last year, one of them stopping in for long periods multiple times. When he who, who is in his corner? Not a Thai, but one of our lady fighters.

>>41836297
No

>>41836315
A-any particular reason why anon?

GUYS I SIGNED UP FOR MUAY THAI BUT I KEEP SEEING THREADS ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING BRAIN DAMAGE AND NOT TO BOX

FUCK IM SO SCARED. I SHOULD QUIT EVEN THOUGH I ONLY WENT ONCE

FUCK

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>capoeria

>>41836391
Don't be ridiculous. If you listen to the idiots on the internet you'd never even get out of bed let alone go to bed because of all the negative effects it could potentially have according to some highly contrived and outdated studies.

Just do it and fuck these online pussies.

>>41836391
No, please keep training. So long as your not sparing hard all the time you'll be 100% fine

Is boxing the best for getting in a random bar fight after that one guy thats bigger than you slaps your girlfriends ass?

How long would you have to train for boxing to be effective in this type of situation?
Assuming you have decent size/strenght and level of fitness.

>>41826128
Its like you want to be called a bitch

>>41836730
>random bar fight

99/100 random fights are not gonna be 1v1, boxing is basically a fundamental 1v1 sport.

street fights are not worth it my dude, you are most likely going to be jumped by 10 niggers or some shit or get a gun/knife pulled on you

t. boxing for 8 years

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>>41825898
bujinkan
kendo
kenjutsu
aikido

>>41836429
>dance class

>>41836730

boxing, plus wrestling; wrestling has takedowns and clinch work; muay thai has clinch work but you probably dont want to throw kicks in that situation except for teeps. bjj would be more indirect , as if you are high level you can manipulate bodies and limbs.

but essentially boxing and sprinting

>>41826684
reminds me of komodo dragons wrestling

>>41836730
the best is a boxing/wrestling combo

you want to punch people and not being thrown to the ground

but random fights you just need to punch and move a lot otherwise people will jump you

so boxing is good for it

There is only one Martial Art - Wu Shu. Which, coincedentely, translates as "Martial Art"

>>41826852
Please tell us some more about WC

>>41826289
Should've controlled those chakras.

What is the difference between BJJ and normal Jiu-Jitsu?

>>41839195
Normal jiu jitsu has stand up and weapon disarming. Bjj train for a rule set that gives points for positional control on the ground.

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>>41826128
>unironically thinking you can train your knockout power