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Is nofap just a meme or could it have actual benefits?
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>>41825011
Why don't you just try it I swear I see this post 3x a day. What exactly is the risk of nofap? NOTHING. Monks have been doing it for centuries.
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>>41825020
because it could be extremely difficult and still waste my time. What kind of benefits have you noticed? Is it worth it?
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>>41825011
as >>41825020 mention just try it, if you are considering it, why not just do it and find out for yourself? at the very least it is a good supersize in self-disciprine
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>>41825048
Don't want to have to try it if its a waste of time. Also can't it cause prostate cancer?
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>>41825067
Yes, if you don't fap for 30 days, you will get prostate cancer.

Loling at your excuses.
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>>41825067
it's true, I died of prostate cancer when I forgot to fap during my exams
>>>/x/
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is NoFap a meme? yes

is NoPorn a meme? no


that being said i try to abstain from jacking it for at minimum 3 days because it makes the orgasm huge and intense.
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>>41825067
I'm not a doctor and I haven't read much on the scientific benefits but anecdotally through my own experience I have noticed I have an increased libido, and I feel less shitty about myself. Also c'mon is masturbating so important to you that a two week hiatus would be considered "a waste of time?" Just try it.
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>>41825190
Not him but if I don't bust a nut in four days, my balls start hurting. I produce bucketloads of cum in just one day of not cumming.
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It's a meme and it has the very real potential side effect of erectile dysfunction if you abstain from sex and from fapping.
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Only reason i'm hesitant is because I would much rather not deal with wet dreams. Has happened to me every time I do no fap within days. Usually makes me give up
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>>41825229
Nofap can cause ED? I thought it did the opposite. Would an hero if this happened to me.
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god fuck these threads last time I waste my time trying to argue about jacking off
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>>41825011
:-)
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Will nofap/noporn fix my libido? I don't get random boners if I see hot girls when I'm out, my dick doesn't get completely rock hard even right before sex, and my erections go away pretty fast if I'm not trying to jack off. Did nofap help anyone else with issues like this, or am I just a lowtest phaggot?
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>>41825046

I've tried it but can't last more than a few days at a time without breaking.

During that time I have a bit more energy and also I'm a bit more outgoing around girls simply because my biology is screaming at me to get laid.
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>>41825046
>and still waste my time
How is it a waste of time to not do something, you mong?
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>>41825369
cleaning up my sheets from wet dreams
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>>41825046
>>41825067
>not jerking off is a waste of time

jerking off -- takes time
not jerking off -- takes no time
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>>41825393
>sleeping naked
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>>41825011
I managed to not fap for 30 days,
also I edged during sex.

I focused more and had a better work ethic, I also felt more engaged while working.
Took me like 14 days before I even felt anything.

I have been unable to hit the 30 day mark since, though.
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>>41825238
Use it or lose it, if your tissue becomes unaccustomed to expansion and use it can atrophy and become more difficult to get and maintain full erections.
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>>41825440
The fuck?
No not at all.

You still get boners when you sleep retard
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>>41825440
sexual tissue is activated in rem sleep. this increases if you don't fap to the point of daily morning wood. stop fear mongering and give it a try.
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im porn addicted (not the watches every day but the have a collection with all kind of fucked up stuff and keeps up with all the pornstars and labels type) and when there is school or anything that keeps me busy i have no problems. its only a problem when i spend 5 hours masturbating on a free day but if wouldnt do that i would do something equally useless so it doesnt really matter
if i dont jerk off for a few days im fucking horny and i cant focus on shit. while i think my addiction is pretty harmful, this nofap shit is retarded
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I tried nofap once. My experience was that it was dumb because I just had night emissions instead, which made me wonder what the point of not fapping was. That being said I don't think it hurts to limit fapping.

NoPorn, however, is a different story.
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>>41825046
>not doing something fruitless is extremely difficult and wastes my time
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>>41825181

wtf do you NoPorn guys jack off to?

Serious fucking question
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>>41825927
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>>41825927
To myself in the mirror. Srs.
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>>41825393
Still not a waste of time, who doesn't like clean sheets?
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I constantly suffer from relapse during nofap and I can't seem to get past it, until now when I'm currently out of lube and am unable to get off, I'm suffering fap withdrawals and need help, help
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>>41825399
>>41825925

He means time wasted NOT jerking it
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>>41825011

Everybody keeps talking about how there are no benefits to nofap and/or noporn, but what exactly are the hazards of nofap and/or noporn, if any?
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>>41825399
think about all the time he could be jerking it tho
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Why I never feel any improvement in my mood? It was quite shit before and still is after. Where is my testosterone and great mood? NoFap benefits are hoax
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>>41827473
can I fix my butt if I have the male version of the thing in the pic or am I doomed
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>>41825011
>day 48
>benefits breddy gud and intense
>lifting more
>exercising like 5 days a week minimum
>sex with my gf is better than it's ever been
>feel like I love her more too, in fact all of my emotions got stronger
>some bad ones too, like I got into some shit with my mom about her divorce
>most of all I don't feel like a weak willed failure because I'm actually able to stick with it
>almost failed yesterday because of this HHHHNNNGNGGG thread >>41782595

Overall I'd say it's worth it. I don't want to credit nofap for everything though because I started exercising at the same time I started nofap. Still, if nofap gives me the motivation to work out and working out improves my life then in my book it works.
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>>41825927
I fap to girls I havent had sex with. It makes you have a crush on them, but gives me motivation to approach them.

Fapping to pornstars always lead you to fapping to other porn. Fapping to real girls makes you crave of getting laid.
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>>41825046
Even if you don't jack off for a week, it wouldn't be wasted time because the longer you dont beat your meat the better ot feels when you do
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>>41825326
I've been having the same issue recently, but I still get morning wood and erections, but have issues staying hard during sex too or getting really hard without touching my dick
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>>41825011
My uneducated guess is that it has the same benefit as quitting any other addiction. If you are not actually addicted to fapping and you lead a healthy life then I don't think it's gonna do much good.
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If you manage to get a fairly decent streak (even a week if you currently fap daily) and then relapse you will immediately realize how much better you felt because you will crash hard, get brain fog, low energy, low confidence and for me I even start breaking out in acne after a relapse. Sometimes you don't appreciate the benefits, because they are too subtle, until you lose them all at once in a relapse.
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>>41829015
there's nothing wrong with masturbating every so often though
those symptoms sound mostly psychological
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NoFap has benefits and disadvantages

/thread

please stop talking about this
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tell me more about benefits of noporn
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>>41830014
You don't condition yourself to associate computer screens with arousal. Sex with real girls will be much better.
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>>41830014
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>>41829275
And there's nothing wrong with shooting heroin every so often, but it's physically addictive so it becomes impossible to only do it every so often and it ruins your life.

Fapping is the same way for people like me. I avoided all the "bad drugs" and used masturbation as a crutch because everyone tells you it's natural and healthy. Became physically addicted.
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>>41825011
It's a meme
>>41825046
>Is it worth it?
No
>>41825229
>>41825440
These
>>41825460
He's right
>>41825476
That's retarded pseudoscience and a meme
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html?zx=5c392185e96536fa
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>>41825067
>Also can't it cause prostate cancer?
>>41825145
>Science and not being retarded enough to fall for memes are now an excuses.
>http://www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>http://urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>http://www.frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>http://m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>http://answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>https://www.healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation
>>41825238
Yes, whenever you hear about "flatlining", it's literally just your dick dying on you because you're not using it. Long term on nofap testosterone also tanks
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>>41825011
No benefits for most men at all, unless you count having to clean your sheets every morning two weeks in as a health benefit.

Much like AA, NoFap is a cult where people who overindulge in a particular vice (drunk every day, fapping 3 times daily) shill the extreme opposite because they lack the discipline to do anything with moderation.

If you're a normal dude who jerks off maybe a couple of times a week, it will do nothing for you. If you're a NEET who whacks off nonstop to the point where it is consuming all the masculine energy that you would put into other pursuits, then yeah it would help. Not by giving you magical super powers but by returning you to the test levels of a normal human being.

Going from drinking a couple of beers with the guys every weekend to becoming a sober monk is unlikely to do much for you, wheras going from a perpetual drunkard to a sober monk will of course see much improvement in your life. Same principle with NoFap, no need to impose restrictions on yourself unless your vice is getting out of hand.
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>>41831475
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/dream-catcher/201406/the-mystery-rem-related-penile-erections

do you think spamming blogspot opinion pieces is going to change anyone's mind?
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guys, how can I (at least) quickly recover after a fap?
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>>41834227
drink water
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Guys I feel depressed long time but I don't get erections when I visit NSFW boards or when I wake up in the morning or during night when going to take a piss. I get only when I start stroking while watching some fetish porn. I'm only 19. When I was 16 I would wake up every day with erections... And would get it in school just by calculating numbers or when taking bus home.

Now it's completely gone. Can my shit mental health affect all this? My head is usually in light pain. I don't get random erections or morning woods at all. BTW counting 4th day as NoFap
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>>41834667
Are you deficient in zinc?
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>>41825011

Did it for three weeks and it crashed my libido with no survivors.

The penis is a use or lose it organ - we weren't meant to hold in semen for weeks or months at at time.

That being said, it does have advantages if porn and fapping is getting in the way of your life or you do it multiple times. I noticed it mainly creates a slight nervous energy that makes you more likely to go after a random female.

Just fap once or twice a week and you should be fine.
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I enjoy having huge ass cum shots, so yeah nofap is worth it
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>>41835727
The thing is that I'm using 50mg Zinc supplement daily for 3 weeks already. But that doesn't make me feel better, opposite - I feel tired. I thought my problems by no facial hair, slow muscle growth, bad mood might have to do with low testo, I didn't check the levels though. My body is getting bit hairier but don't know if it has anything to do with supplements. Still no influence to erections
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>>41835934

how much zinc should you take if you already take a multivitamin?
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>>41830891
>>41830014
>>41828291
>>41825953

what is the cut-off for what counts as porn?

does it HAVE to be your imagination?

can you masturbate to facebook pics?
tinder pics?
female UFC fights?


how strict does this need to be before my mind isn't poisoned any longer?
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>>41835981
Dunno lol, 50 is high dosage and multivitamins have Zinc (10mg mine) as well. 11 is minimal requirement, anything more than 30mg a day is high . High dosage in a long term will leave you in deficiency of other metals. If you intake more Zinc then you need it won't be used/absorbed
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>average nofapfag after falling off the wagon
Oh god, I feel like shit after getting this rush of endorphins and hormones I've been without for x hours/days/months! Obviously fapping and orgasms in general are terrible for my test output, I should never cum again! Surely this feeling isn't the result of abstaining from something the body needs regularly! Perish the thought!
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a study has shown a increase in testosterone after 15 days but its probably not significant. anyways, try it. its natural tho, so I would go as far as 15 days and after day I would get off, but not for porn, just using imagination, or look at some high tests and afterwards got get off
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>>41835981
zinc won't do shit unless you are deficient. if your zinc level is on point, you can take lots of it and it will make no effect beside make you sick
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>>41830891
read this faggots
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>>41825011
No fap has no effects on your test besides a little spike after the 6/7th day.
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>>41830891
The fuck I have to do online then? if I'm a NEET who's afraid of public places and people? I don't fap but just finished watching 4 hours of efukt shit and was planning to watch some /gif/ material. Though did all this without getting erection because only when I let it into my mind blood stats flowing there but only hand on penis can make it +80% hard. Ugh... In before start some hobbies just know that I haven't spoke to any person except my family for more than 1 minute in 3 or so years
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>>41825046
I know this already has multiple responses but
the waste of time thing is stupid. think about the time it takes to get into a porn, find the one you want, jerk and clean up. depending on your situation this could be awhile. Plus you may masterbate more than once a day.
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>>41836284
Or just go get a girl and go have some nice sex. I swear. You people need to learn some damn social skills
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No fap is a conspiracy by the Vaginal Jew and a Cuckold (seriously, look up who started the nofap meme and who's advertising it) to try to feminize men and make them chase chubby disgusting females instead of just jerking off for 10 minutes and continuing their lives. I tried nofap and was close to raping a girl after day 14, don't do it, it's a fucking joke. I wasted so much time trying to get laid when I could have just fapped at the comfort of my own house for 10 minutes. If you want to achieve something, like good grades or a career/business stick with the fapping, but if your only goal is to get laid/lose your virginity then go ahead with nofap, because you will be horny like a motherfucker.

Nofap doesn't increase your test.
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>>41836798

>don't spend all day everyday jacking off
>i tried it and i actually almost had sex once
>realized my mistake
>now i only jack off everyday all-day
> only a cuckold would go have sex instead of jacking off constantly

holy fuck, i think you just convinced me to go nofap when you were non-ironically ranting against it
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>>41836933
I have had sex before mate, as I said, nofap is great if your only goal is wanting to fuck someone but if you want to focus on studying or your careere it's a waste of time. I fap every second day and it keeps me intact, going out to a bar every weekend just to try to fuck some ugly cunt is not worth my time and takes up significantly more time than just fapping.
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>>41837001
why are the women you always go for either chubby, disgusting, or ugly?
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>>41837021
because 90% of women are ugly, especially the ones at bars or clubs. I'm not Chad enough to fuck 9/10s anyways. Nofap is a joke and a waste of time and energy.
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>>41837037

what about NoPorn?
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If you are not no porn you are a cuck. Don't try to rationalize your need for cock and seeing other men fuck women.
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>>41825011
This is the founder of NoFap, does he look like he ever had a benefit in his life?
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>>41837105

what if you only watch lesbian porn?
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>>41836005
Its just hardcore porn.
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>>41837115
You're fine.
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>>41837116

did you just arbitrarily decide that? or is there like rules for this shit somewhere?
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>>41837115
You subconsciously imagine yourself becoming the woman. See that gigantor /pol/ pic for details
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>>41825020
Prostate cancer.
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>>41825011
my personal experience is that it helps your confidence immensely. Don't know about how it affects all anons
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FUCK Bros I'm with this beautiful girl now. Things started getting heated for the first time and I couldn't get it up. She ended up sucking me limp and I busted in about 45 seconds. Kill me. I've fapped regularly till now and I never had problems like this. I guess I was nervous around her. Please help. I feel like shit.

If it helps I was pretty tired and hadn't eaten all day too.
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>>41825440
>He thinks you don't get boners on nofap
What are you trying to do, if not justify your sad habits?
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>>41830891
Nofap works but this whole wall of text is a written by a racist mememaster and shit he says about trannies are false in general, don't waste your time reading this read a book or something.
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>>41837801
Why do you think you're nervous around her?
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>>41837801
exact same thing happened to me

watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU
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>>41836707
Well anon looks like you are doing something and it isn't working, so stop doing that and do something else instead.
>inb4 what is it that I'm doing wrong
Only you can judge that desu.
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>>41827565
unironically ss + gomad
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>>41825011
It varies from person to person. My experiences with it are:

>used to fap everyday, sometimes multiple times
>generally low on energy and I don't feel like doing much
>try nofap
>my productivity and energy increases somewhat over the span over 2 weeks
>after 2 weeks I don't feel anything different anymore and the effects seem to remain the same

So yeah, not fapping everyday and keeping it to once every 2 weeks has in my epxerience given me more energy and drive to do stuff, but everything after 2 weeks gives nothing more then pent up frustration.

I also hear about these guys not fapping for months and I am not sure if that is ok. Fapping keeps organs and parts of your body active and it is generally accepted that a inactive organ is a unhealthy one, so don't overdo it.
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>>41838600
This.
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>>41838550
Because I love her
>>41838551
Did you fix it?
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I've been on nofap for a week. I went on a movie date with a girl where we cuddled for a bit and now my underwear is completely soaked with precum.
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>>41837801
>>41842139
At least you got sex man I'm with this girl but I don't think I can sex her because she's conservative and religious. The whole no premarital sex thing.
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>>41836005
>female UFC fights?
Whats wrongs whitchu nigga?
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>>41842139
Are you nervous around all the people you love?
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>>41842388
I did't get sex. Close though. Best of luck with yours, but you're luckier than you think.
>>41842507
The only person I've ever loved is her, other than family. Different kind of love. I think it was a combination of nervousness, lack of sleep, not having eaten anything for over 24h. Also probably my brain is fucked up from all the shit I've seen here in the past few years.
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>>41837107
Somebody.. *invented* abstaining from rubbing one's cock to orgasm??
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>>41827473

Those are some fine looking Irish girls.
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>>41843215
Obviously, who else would have thought of something so complex.
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>>41831475
Kill yourself retard
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>>41837521
kys
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7 hours for me
If I stay strong I'm gonna make it
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I've been doing NoFap (and NoPorn, although occasionally I find myself looking at porn and having to exit out) since June 1. I've never done it before, but I started lifting last month as well as broke up with my girlfriend and I wanted to force myself into having to actually go out and find real women in order to orgasm.

So far, here are the gritty details:
>I am noticeably hornier (obvious, but still needs to be said)
>I am at the same level of happiness
>I am bolder in how I talk to girls on dating apps, I probably come off as pretty thirsty
>I haven't noticed being bolder in how I approach girls in real life - self-esteem seems to be the same as before
>I have had sex with 1 girl and gotten a blowjob from another, both times I busted huge nuts
>I have a drive to workout but I only started back up lifting last month so I have nothing to compare this to

I think it's worth it for the placebo effects alone. Look, if you can stop yourself from jacking off and looking at porn, it shows you have willpower. You can abstain from shitty food or soda next. Then you can focus your energy on your career or your passions. It might not have extreme tangible physical benefits, but I think it's worth trying.
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>>41843384
You want a good advice? Stop using dating apps and go into real world. Of course you seem thirsty when only desperate people use dating sites
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I think NoFap is a bit of a meme, but I recognise the need to cut down on porn. I used to surf /b/ and /gif/ constantly, seeing tits and butts etc on repeat.

Now I have to try and cut that out entirely. The harder part will be the no fapping. I want to start by cutting that down a lot. I'm normally one a day, but recently it hasn't felt good, just felt like its a chore sort of thing.

I didn't on Friday because of work stuff, but I felt miserable.

Any tips on dealing with it? I feel like I should start exercising, maybe even join a gym.
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My voice gets deeper after about 3 days into nofap

And I get more aggressive and more forward with girls and just generally more confident
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>>41825011
It is a meme.
I fap once per day and feel like the guy on the left.
I did sort of a forced no-fap (when I was in a hospital for a month) and let me tell ya, there was no difference between fapping or not, other than my dick sensitivity has gone way down and I had to train it back to an actual useful level (was coming after like a minute compared with 10 or more if with a girl).
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i did nofap for 3 months.. survived the 90 day challenge. there is no point in doing it:

- 'increased confidence' is inaccurate and a placebo effect that people with zero confidence report (when you have none to begin with, any life change feels like a good thing!)
- morning erections do return, but they're more a nuisance than anything (had 3 nocturnal emissions over the time i did it)
- my sex drive stayed about the same
- when i hooked up with my gf at the time, premature ejaculation was hysterically common

agree with the others who say noporn is probably a better middle-ground approach. helps to solve the issues of porn induced ED and overstimulation, without the pain of blue balls that a strict nofap approach brings on
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>>41825011
The biggest benefit I heard from almost everyone on nofap is improved skin. Its only worth trying even just for that. Day 7 here.
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>>41826547
>>41827269

holy shit you guys are hopeless hahahahh
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>>41844715
but but anon!! It made you do your laundry more!!
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When I fap and/or watch tasteful non-jew-funded, non-mainstream porn I:
>feel more relaxed
>approach women with the confidence of an uncaring asshole
>last longer in bed, enjoy the afterglow more
>act civilized and try to solve problems rationally
>sleep well and wake up the same time every morning
>more focused on my personal projects and more productive at work
>enjoy workouts more and try new things in general with greater enthusiasm
>get more inspired and involved in my hobbies

When I DON'T fap and/or watch tasteful non-jew-funded, non-mainstream porn:
>I feel agitated and hostile constantly
>become thirsty in approaching women but have an incredibly low bullshit-tolerance towards them in any further interaction
>bust the first nut in seconds in bed, suffer from major PCT right after sex
>become uncooperative and aggressive, trying to solve things using brute force and violence rather than finesse or common sense
>wake up two to three times at night due to fucked up dreams, jizz the sheets once a month at least
>I'm unfocused in my projects and distrated in my work, can't stop thinking about sex 24/7: I'm less productive and sloppy
>workouts feel like a boring chore, can't be bothered to try new exercises regardless
>can't concentrate on my hobbies, try to waste out the excess energy with over-exercising; resulting in injuries and wear-outs

The only possible benefit I could conceive from nofap is that it could save my time, but then I remember when I didn't watch for porn or masturbate at all for five years I completely wasted that time binge-watching anime and shitposting on 4chan anyway...

I think no4chan would improve my life more than nofap.
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Ive noticed the longer im no porn the harder it is to go back. Even think about wanting to watch it is unappealing. I find porn unless its solo stuff to be revolting.
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Ok, it was a 5th day and I did fap today to non-nude, nice female face. My erection was worse than before, mind clear as always (can't fantasize at all, head is full but mind is clear). Is this what NoFap should be about? Less jerking and when doing that do that to light erotical pictures or your imagination? Didn't want to jerk off to be honest, dunno why I did it. But had strong orgasm, jerked only for few minutes, usually I would watch fetish porn and jerk off+edge for at least an hour for same or weaker orgasm. My spontaneous erections are completely gone for years btw, maybe associating normal faces to pleasure is the best way for me to go?
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>>41848831

Same
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>>41830891

About 1 well formulated point in this entire text and yet is very arguable.

Dont waste your time reading this. If youre curious, mind map or something and do some research.
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>>41836707

Listen senpai. I am in a very similar position to you in that i've become desensitized to most sexual stimuli yet keep watching it. Except, I am very out going and have numerous opportunities to have sex.

The habit of watching porn for watching sake is a very slippery slope and believe me you dont want slide down that.

One of the more accepted benefits of a change in masturbation habits is increased libido. I suggest taking a break for a week ( a few days if youve been eating and sleeping right ) and then once the urges return pay VERY close attention to what you think up. Work with those feelings only. Imagine scenarios and shit.
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>>41837252

Maybe I just want to imagine myself having snuck into a girls room while two girls go at it...
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just finished a slightly shy of 2 hr wank sesh
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21 days here

feel like I'm on a low dose of mdma 24/7
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>>41849180
That's the most motivating thing anyone in this thread has said.

I did that shit ONE time. I knew I could never do it again, I'd never want to stop. I would constantly be feining and searching for it.

Not because it's addictive but because it felt reallllly good man.
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>look up negative effects of shlicking
>apparently there none
Surely this can't be true, right?
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>>41825190
>stop fapping
>increased libido

duh. that's like saying a benefit of not eating is increased hunger.
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guys i'm on day five and had a fucking wet dream, what do i do? i made it to 32 days before but now i can't even get close to a week.
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>>41825210
That's just because you keep emptying them at an increased rate. Stop masturbating for a week and they'll stop hurting.

Seriously, what are you, 14?
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>>41849484

You can't brag about it to your bitch friends
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>>41825011
Noporn is not a meme, if you can't even go 2 weeks without fapping to it you've got yourself a problem.
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>>41848781
Where can one find

>tasteful non-jew-funded, non-mainstream porn

You meal the amateur?
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>>41849662
Does having a wet dream means that you fapped?
It doesn't. Your nofap still goes on even if you have a wet dream.
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>>41825020
If they live that long.
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>>41825011
me on a gym day on the left
me on a rest day on the right
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>>41852070
>rest day
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Way I see it let no faps do no fap and fuck themselves up. Once they are fucked up they will wish they could fap again or get hard.
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>>41851346
kek underrated post
>>41825011
OP have you ever heard of the concept of "antifragility"? In brief, fragile systems break under stress, robust ones don't break and antifragile systems, get stronger.

As a fitizen the most obvious antifragile system is your own body. You put it under stress (in the form of exercise) and it grows stronger. I propose that nofap/noporn is similar in that sense; in stressing your willpower and mental discipline you make them stronger.

One thing that people get wrong, is that the stressor must not be permanent. An acute burst of stress leads to strengthening; a chronic stress causes damage. This is why we don't exercise every day and why you shouldn't do nofap/noporn forever.

I know there's an argument for training discipline in a more "productive way", e.g avoid fast food or high sugar drinks or cigarettes. But this is to miss the point entirely. Fast food and soft drinks and cigarettes are chronic stressors. They should be removed on their own right. Short (perhaps no longer than a month) bursts of nofap/noporn, is an acute stressor--it should be done precisely because there is no obvious health benefit, because there is no rationalization for your actions. it is pure willpower all the way.

Antifragility is why I believe sprinting is better than long-distance running, doing fewer reps at high weight is better than more reps at low weight, eating the occasional (very occasional) fast food meal is better than cutting out fast food forever, going through difficult, acutely stressful situations with your SO is better than forever avoiding such situations, switching jobs is better than doing the same work forever, taking extended vacations (>1 month) is better than waiting for retirement, in short, taking the occasional risk, exposing yourself to the occasional uncertainty, bearing the occasional pain and discomfort, is better than total risk-avoidance and comfort seeking.
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>>41849110
I've desensitized my dick when I fuck it doesn't even feel that great and I just keep going and I feel nothing even when she gives me head what can I do that will fix this
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>>41825011
been on nofap for like...2, almost 3 weeks now, i think. fapped once at the start of the month but since then i havent

literally think about plowing hotties every night tho so
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Day one of nofap.

My normal wake up routine is masturbate to the edge, then get to and blow load in toilet, so struggle to get up.

No porn means no/b/ or /gif/. So only got /fit/ and /g/, or Reddit.

But it's easy for now, as I needed to really do something to get turned on.
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>>41851182

/s/

>You meal the amateur?
>meal

Are you cutting son?
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>>41853671
You're in the battle with dick and dopamine, best of luck my friend
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>>41854414
Dopamine will be an issue. At the moment, dick isn't putting a fight up to much. I got some morning wood, but nothing much after that.

I just need to reset I think.
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>>41825046
>waste my time
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Just fap every third day, but only to imagination or vanilla pictures.
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>>41836694
Once a week is ideal then, but what is your source for this?
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40 days without porn today

suffice to say i really want to jerk it to porn right now

thought i'd be over this shit by now
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>>41837107
He looks like a 40 year old trapped in the body of an 18 year old.
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>>41825364
congratulations that is the entire point
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>>41854948
just jack off, it will be great

no porn tho
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>>41827473
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>>41856434
Would rather have that
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>>41836694
whats the source on this?
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>>41842388
The girl is beyond even your puny existance.

What would man be without porn and constant fapping?

Good fathers? Faithful husbands with obediant wives? Productive citizens?

Think about it slave.
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I masturbate 4 or so times a day and still fuck my wife every day or every other day.

Is there anything wrong with that? Are dry orgasms bad or something?

I started supplementing vitamin d3 and I think its increased my test my a significant margin. I literally can't stop fucking or jerking it.
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>>41856969
back to the_donald with you
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>>41853069
do you really believe your great-great-great grandad was jerking it on the regular before pumping your gggg'gma's pussy full of your ancestor?

Just saying people have had better things to do for most of humanity;s existance than sit at a computer and beat their meat.
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>>41857048
there's no reason why some of your ancestors would not have possibly been addicted to masturbation

if it feels good now it felt good then too
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>>41833142
My post was for people that don't fall for pseudoscience, so only if they'd rather know what they're talking about and not fall for memes. You obviously don't apply
>>41843312
No retard
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>>41843324
>>41831475
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>>41848781
so when you don't fap you act like a man as opposed to a pseudo-intellectual beta faggot?
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>>41856985
You're a disgusting addict and a slave to the electric jew.

You're fucking pathetic just like every other PMO cuck in here trying to justify why jerking off instead of behaving like a real alpha male is anything but the cause of western degeneracy.
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