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jb jerry gf

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ordered from new unverified source yesterday and got my ralox and prami today

thats insane he must live next door or something

I think ill drop the tren, take some time pff and let my ankle heal
Shredsll have to wait

>>41810568
Damn.

Best place for blood tests around Toronto?

>>41810671
literally any walk-in clinic

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>>41810596
These research chemicals taste like fucking ACID. Can I just put them in juice or something?

>>41810724
Ye, or mix with a glass of water.

>gf getting suspicious of all these new "supplements" I'm buying

Strict muscle Snatches are so legit

Entire shoulder and rotator cuff is pumped atm

>>41810647
how;'d you sprain your ankle?

Can anyone please link me the latest dnp pastebin. The most up to date onde i could fins was fev/2016.

>>41810647
Jerry why are you always nursing an injury?

>>41810938
Just swallow some DNP you fat fuck what is there to know

>>41810647
were you shredded even once?
How do you keep fucking up?
I did PSMF for 5 days and had a vein up to the middle of my abs today.

>>41810938
yeah that's pretty much the one. it's all you could want to know though, it's not like dnp changed in the last year.

>>41810938
Start at 125-250/day

Wait a week before upping. Don't go over 600/day unless you really feel like you know what you're doing.

If your fingers and toes go numb, drop it. If you get a small rash at first, monitor it. If it gets worse drop the dnp.

Really this shit isn't complicated

>>41810934
Ed runs

>>41810940
Beta genetics

>>41810958
Nope

how many times do I need to pin a muscle before it stops getting lumps in them? I've done my third pin (right then left then right again) and each time my buttcheek gets a nice lump in it that makes sleeping and sitting uncomfortable.

4th pin is supposed to be tonight but both my cheeks are still healing.

>>41811075
test e forgot to say

Also I'm heating the oil, using seperate draw needle, and swabbing the area and massaging my cheek for a good while after inject

>>41811075
in a year of pinning i only ever gotten one lump.

what the fuck are you doing

dont massage it immediately after injecting.

>>41811075
if you're getting a lump that means you're probably injecting subq instead of intramuscular

how long are the needles? are you fat?

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Do you guys brew everything with GSO or MCT?

>>41811079
How long is the pin? Virgin sites usually take 5 shots or so to become acclimated. Pick a different site otherwise you're risking a abscess. Do quads.

>>41811075
What does the oil look like?

Is it kinda thin and very clear? You might be having an allergic reaction to mct, relatively common. That or whatever solvent concentration/ba they used isn't agreeing with you.

Wait another week or two then consider finding another source if you still react that way

>>41811079
never had this happen to me

you squattin after pinning ur ass?

>>41811101
everyone tells me quads and I wont be able to walk. I need to hit legs but even these ass lumps making squats hard as shit to do. Needle is 1.25"
>>41811093
not fat. maybe I am doing it in fat somehow though. I push the needle all the way in and don't feel anything. Does Subq mean I wasted any of the gear?

lump takes about little less than a week to fade
>>41811112
oil looks clear yellow, kinda like piss but lighter. I've had it for alittle over a year sealed in plastic. Wasn't in a place where I could use it, but took me roughly that long to get things in order before I decided I was ready to do it.

Got it from sst, Ill follow your advice and look another source.

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HOW IS HER ARM THAT FUCKING LONG?

>>41811171
quads don't hurt, pussy talk, just get a pump after and dont pin the outside

>>41811051
you are doing something seriously wrong then, like I don't even.
Do you overeat so much? I thought you did a lot of cardio, and you work, so you don't sit around and eat 24/7.

Pls jerry, get your shit together, slow and steady, that jojoing does not seem to work for you.

>>41811171
Lil over a year
Lmao
Yeah old gear gives pip n lumps
Its not going to stop

>>41810949
Rood roodypoo

>>41811180
dont pin the outside? and I should pin just before leg workouts?

>>41811189
I drink way too much
After my surgery I got way fat
Usually sit around 15 to 20
Sub 15 now

>>41811192
is it still full strength though?

damn, that's disappointing. alot of money down the drain

>>41811209
it should be.

can you see little white dots or sparkles in your gear? like little crystals?

>>41811217
nope, ive checked for that, looks perfectly clear amber. I've kept it in good temperatures and indoors and out of sunlight

>>41811199
outside has tendon you hit that you'll die (not literally)

any muscle group you pin you should hit after, the pump helps negate pip

>>41811173
camera trick or something mate, way the body is posed kinda.

>>41811227
only thing i can think of then is that you're literally rubbing the gear back into subq when you "massage" it right after injecting.

did the same thing when i started, i credited my shitty injection skills and not steady hand to the pip.

>>41811241
her arms are just skinny af, makes it look longer.

>>41811180
You're supposed to pin on the outside faggot

>>41811288
of your quad? no

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>>41811381
yeah

>>41811205
damn, then I hope you get that in check.
Alcohol ruins you, it takes a long time for it to happen, but you are basically fucked for life then.
Start smoking weed or something, I don't like weed, but it is way better than heavy drinking.
But the munchies would probably get you just as fat.

>>41811395
nigger thats the front

>>41811173
omfg her feet are fucking hideous I feel like throwing up leftclick->hide

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>>41811440
y-you're not pinning in the hamstrings are you

>>41811440
wtf

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>>41811486
you can see ON THE SIDE where you dont want to hit

test e 500 eq 400 or 600?

>1 lb spinach
>1 lb lean ground beef
>6 eggs
>parm cheese
>half onion
>8 ounces of mushrooms
>hunk of sour dough

Amazing dinner after heavy squats and ohp.

First time cycling. What should I expect?

What is the best place to meet older women? Asking for a friend.

>>41811971
gym during the day

>>41811971
The retirement center.

>>41812010
bingo

>>41811409
alc is better than weed.
weed causes schizo in some people too

>sunnycon starts in a few hours
>taking it easy on the carbs and calorie so I'm dry, relying on the drol and winny

Mates im already hungry, and ill be surrounded by all that carby, sugary and salty shit from both the western and japanese food halls.

>>41812126
eat a protein shake

>>41811440
oh shit

>>41811969
gainz

>>41812132

i guess ill drink a soy milk soy isolate protein drink while on the 5 hour bus ride.

but it would be rather autistic bringing protein powder in a tupperware and chugging that shit every now and then in the con.

even by convention autist standards.

>>41812147
no way I lug protein powder w/ me to most places when I know I'm traveling. if people ask they're like "yeah makes sense you're huge!" And then they compliment me on discipline. Nbd if you really get hungry and feel autistic mixing quick convenient meals just go to a burger joint and get a triple stack on a lettuce wrap.

why am I unable to stop myself from cheating fuck

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>>41810403
>do steroids they said
>look good they said
What in the actual fuck is happening to me !!!

>>41812046
>alc is better than weed.
yuuup

has so many calories though :[

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>>41812253

>>41812253
I literally can't tell what bodypart this is

>>41812259
thats a nice butt

you can be my cumslut if you promise to do the other kind of steroids, anon

>>41812253
>>41812259
allergic reaction or cystic acne, pray for your skin

>>41812260
its my ass

>>41812293
post ur slutty hole

>>41812293
can't really complain tho you got bigger

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>>41811969
A sore ass unless you bought a gel seat. Make sure to oil your chain too bro.

>>41812253
>>41812259
bro you got herpes

Does anyone get social/general anxiety from high estrogen?

Got my TRT dose upped and I think I'm having a lot more anxiety than usual

>>41812349
lmao groce

>>41812358
unless its 250mg a week trt your estrogen isnt high

>>41812377
please refrain from giving advice

>>41812431
you're just beta kiddo its not the estrogen lmao

>>41812450
I'm not the guy asking the question

I'm just telling you to stop giving advice because you have no idea what you're talking about you ape

>>41812457
it's just a fact kid you're autistic its not your hormones

standard trt dose of 150mg is not putting your estrogen out of range

fact

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>>41812468
150mg/week

>>41812468
AI is a meme pushed by UGLs that the internet has bought into hook, line, and sinker. I hear ya bro,

Caber seems to work. Nips severely reduced in sensitivity and certainly no more lactation.

>>41812531
>2k test at 150mg a week

you're full of shit

>>41812533
almost as bad as the tudca meme

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>>41812349
Not herpes

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>>41812468
>>41812550
150mg/week

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>>41812468
>>41812550
75mg e3.5d (that's 150mg/week!)

>>41812588
>doing steroids for this body

>>41812598
Fatass pieces of shit aromatize heavily. Lose weight porky. I'm referring to actual humans not creatures over 20% bf.

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>>41812468
>>41812550
175mg/week

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>>41812468
>>41812550
>>41812615
120mg/week

alright I'm done now but I could go on for literally 50 posts. you're a moron, stop posting

>>41811964
You're small I can tell by how much you eat

>>41812659
>>41812647
>>41812608
>>41812598
You're obese that's why you have high estrogen. Post a timestamped pic to prove me wrong you wont.

if you can't run 500 test without getting gyno you're too fat for steroids

>>41812674
you realize I'm just pulling up blood reviews from different people on r/sst right? and that it's every single review of people sub 200mg with elevated e2 (unless they're already taking their AI)?

you are a m o r o n

>>41812747
F A T A S S

>>41810674
You can just walk in and ask your family doctor to do it?

>>41812804
yes. you don't even need a family doctor, you can go to a random ass walk-in

>>41812813
I'm an idiot, guess I'll do this tomorrow
Thanks anon

>>41812836
you're welcome

>>41812258
pure energy. its the fuel of humans and machines

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I'm dirty bulking on 4000 calories of fast food a day with 100mg anadrol and 350mg tren for 8 weeks.

Reminder that clean eating is a meme and code for small little cuck.

>need a haircut real fuckin bad
>the barber at the barbershop I go to quit
wtf

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>>41813012
just get a buzz

>>41812995
Post physique then big boy

>>41813020
I'm not 12, balding or in the army

>>41813023
I will in 8 weeks little guy

>>41813024
Metrosexual detected

>>41812749
GOT EMM

Bros, one week in on my tren/test/dro ripblend and the pips are so unbareable. Warmed it up, switched to slin pins and been rotating from quads to delts and going to chest next (because my previous spots are still too sore)

What the fuck is that shit.

>>41813172
your chinese bathtub hormones have too much benzene and alcohol in them

>>41813172
trest has horrible PIP newfaggot and for real men only

>>41810362
Maybe. I popped .5mg arimidex just in case just now. Nipples are droopy and there is a gland behind them, but I had predisposed gyno to begin with before cycle. Gonna get surgery scheduled soon.

>>41810869
I'll try man. It's fucking tough. I don't even feel full most of the time. It'll be mid day, I already hit 3,000cals, and I'll still feel hungry.

I feel like a fucking failure tbqh

>>41813172
Blends, not even once.

>>41813214
Ramp down to maintenance and go up slower

If you're blasting you'll still gain a little bit at maintenance or slightly below so long as you're not super low bf and you eat plenty of protein

>>41813299
This will stop you from having these things where suddenly you can't eat enough.

is there a reason not to dirty bulk aside from being a homosexual? just run two weeks of dnp and you'll be shredded.

>>41813401
Your health.

What do you guys do when Western Union begins fucking you over? I use fake info but now the usual place i go to is starting to ask for ID...fuck that.

WHere's a good place you guys know that don't ask for ID to send through WU

just remembered that crusader literally slept in the same bed with that redhead girl last night and didn't get laid

what level friendzone is that where she shares a bed with you but you don't have sex? like shes having a slumber party with a female or gay friend

>>41813455
stop using WU you fucking cuck and use bitcoin we've told you this 20 times

>>41812668
>>>41811964 (You)
>You're small I can tell by how much you eat

Total fatass

>>41813455
Stop using WU. Stop being afraid of bitcoins cuck.

>>41813459
I don't want to fuck her seriously. Cuddling was nice but the tren overheats me so I had to take a break every 20 minutes. I don't want to have sex with her.

I'll reiterate, we have a weird relationship.

>>41813466
I thought these low numbers would be pointless for bitcoin and be more of a hassle. I like WU since it's just write and pay.

Seriously is bitcoin even for sub 500$ a pop a better deal than WU or Moneygram?

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>months worth of 100mg/day anadrol
>$40
>months worth of 1g/day tudca
>$60

tfw supps are more expensive than actual steroids

>>41813492
?????????

You can buy .00000000000001 bitcoin for like 50 cents if you want. You enter the dollar amount you want to purchase of bitcoin and make a purchase. Amount doesn't matter.

>>41813507
I don't come to fraud that much since like I said WU has been working for me just had this problem so just looking for a new way.

So is bitcoin pretty user friendly? Can I change bitcoin for cash easily?

>>41813524
just use coinbase

>>41813536
Don't want to spam but any infographic on how to use bitcoin and get cash through bitcoin? I'll need to tell the person I get my shit from to change to bitcoin instead of WU/Moneygram so if you have an infographic or video to watch I'd very appreciate it

>>41813552
https://www.reddit.com/r/Steroidsourcetalk/wiki/bitcoin

>>41813552
link acc, sell bitcoin, send money to acc

is that literally all you mean?

>>41813570
>reddit
Thanks I'll check it out. Any info on sending bitcoin to China? Heard bitcoin is starting to be dropped over there.

>>41813574
I mean sending bitcoin to supplier, then he changes it to cash

>>41813214
i believe that too low of estrogen can make you depressed

>>41813214
regardless if it isn't your hormones you need to do something. you sound miserable :/ you should be having a blast lol

>>41810974
Well sources need to be updated at least, with dinitro finally kicking the bucket

Oral only cycle for modest gains, without completely crashing test. Possible? How?

>>41813640
I ran anavar for 4 weeks alone and made basically 0 gains aside from getting massive pumps in the gym.

>>41812588
>Roiding for this

>>41813030
>Being this small

>>41813648
>4 weeks

Well... Yeah. That's not long enough for anything.

>>41813648
hey anavar only cycle anon glad to see your cycle went as planned

>>41813401
Longer bulks are more effective timewise than taking a break all the time to cut.

Longer cuts also have a tendency to cause lean tissue loss if you're really big.

>>41813767
>longer cuts cause lean tissue loss
assuming we're geared up here, not really. the benefits of nitrogen retention on even just 200 test basically negate any sense tissue loss. You'll be flat with zero intracellular water or glycogen, but the muscle will remain.

>>41813743
Orals are typically used for 4-6 weeks. 8 max.

>>41813752
It made me stronger but not any bigger. Would for sure do it again abs it didn't shut me down like you cucks said. Once again my superior knowledge prevails.

>>41813780
Nah I mean really big. Yeah most dyels wont have an issue with a bit of test but not a freak

>>41813782
Stronger by how much? Explain before and after numbers here.

>>41813790
that applies to literally none of this board even mast or bimbo maintain size on 200-250 test

what are the different hormones that are manipulated by each steron and other info about the effected hormones

>>41813809
Depending on cut duration I bet bimbo would lose some lbm at 200

He's lean enough though that a cut couldn't go that long

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>>41812547
How much are you taking, any tren? I can't figure out my damn dose for the life of me.

>>41813497

>falling for stupid shit like liver protection

grats on the snake oil retard

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>>41813497
Yup. I paid $4/gram of drol but like you said the tudca is 60 or so for a month if I run 1g/day. I wish I could get a script for it and have it covered under insurance.

>>41813839
tudca is literally a prescription medication you low iq faggot

does testosterone make a person angry?
does estrogen make someone cry a lot and emotional?
does dht do ???

im pretty interested this stuff
>>41813814

>>41813859
Read a book, nigger

week two of tren and I'm not huge yet how much longer

>>41813859
Your questions are dumb.

>>41813847
why not just use milk thistle and NAC?

>>41813869
>>41813864
point me in the right direction

>>41813885
my Reddit source puts those in his tudca

>>41813885
these products have some science suggesting they may support already healthy functioning livers. They don't do much and may even further impede a liver that is under constant stress from oral aas.

>>41813895
seriously? i thought those were great for liver protection and extremely liver toxic things

>>41813891
Reddit

>>41813929
I worked around them for years, got multiple job trainings on the products. I would only ever advise udca/tudca for actual protection. Any of the science I've read that suggests nac or milk thistle have liver protecting qualities, suggest that they support livers without any preexiting conditions. I would take that to mean no current stresses such as orals or alcohol. Take it with a grain of salt; udca was bought by pharmacy corporations because of how effective it is. At one point in time, it too was a regular supplement. If milk thistle or nac were that effective, there would be patents on standardized compounds.

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>>41813929
I run nac pretty much year round as it is but milk thistle is meme tier like bimbs said.

>>41813969
Cute butt

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Sup fellow degenerates?

>>41813581
>I mean sending bitcoin to supplier, then he changes it to cash
you would have to send him more than the cash amount you're paying then

>>41810403
recommend a cycle while cutting

>>41814040
tren

>tfw take half an ai tablet, cos my nipples are the tiniest bit sensitive, instantly lose all energy and sleep for 48hours
fuck ai

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Is it okay to pin test and tren together? Like drawing test first then tren mixing them both and then pinning?

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>>41814123
Also rate my cycle:

Test 125mg E4D Week 1-15
Tren E 200mg E3D Week 1-15
Dbol 20mg/Day Week 1-5

>>41814144
Why not just pin tren and test together every 3.5 days

>>41814156
>>41814123

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>>41814123
it would be extremely painful

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>>41814144
> e4d
I've been reading about roids for over a year now and that's the first time I've ever seen that schedule.

why would you ignore ALL the suggested cycle schedules on the internet and make up your own cowboy shit no one has ever done, ever? like what kind of special autism posseses a person to do that? you just have to be different, is that it? its e3d/e3.5d FOR A REASON you fucking mongoloid.

>>41814202
Fuck off faggy

considering all the obsessive care we take to ensure all our pinning and gear is sterile, can someone please explain how junkies mix fucking tap water and stepped on garbage dope someone had up their ass in a filthy spoon and then inject it directly into a vein and dont just die with days of an abscess?

seriously all this pinning is making me want to try IM ketamine.

>>41814247
they re-use syringes too

>>41813866
TREN ACE TRANSFORMATION week 1,, you will feel pumped but insted of bloofy feel of testosterona pump you will have the feeling of pump from the inside of the muscle while the more self knowing individuals who recognize changes fast will notice their face ...yes their face taking a diff look ,,they will be the only ones who notice it ,, it is something you notice personaly since it is only the beggining and no one else that see you will notice ,,they will think you are crazy if you tell them anythign so keep it to yourself,, face iwll start getting the high boxer type of look,,hard to explain ,, it is week one so nothing visual yet aside from pump ...tremendous strength and i mean tremendous! big diff than what you were before ,,and when you will expect to see your midsection bloat...and say something is not right here the belly got to be bloated...you will take your shirt up and notice that no! it is actualy looking tighter!,, yes yes this is week 1! since you are 12% you wont see much more ,,obliqes will start being noticed well and the girl will comliment that this is the area of the body she like the most right before she sucking your cock,, she wil comment on it because she wil be able to see it on you : ),, remember this is after 3-7 injects of trenbolona ace into blood at 100mg every inject

>>41811192
>>41811171
>alittle over a year

same happened to me with 1.5yr stuff. so much so that reading your post gave me serious deja vu.

>>41814311
week 2-3 this is when progress being made and you start seeing your body transforms ,, still nothing like a pro bodybuild...nothing like top amatuer....but! you will start noticing that the pecs and delts are seperating,, they reduce fat yet remain full and start getting seperated as in water go into the muscle insted of outside of muscle,, this is a stage where you will still have water between skin and muscle so it wont be to an impressive level seperation wize,,but! the seperation will occure and in this 2-3 weeks try not to be crazy and dont take pictures every day ,, take them few times a weeek not every day you will go nuts,, trenbolona changes are only daily for the single digit fellas and the 8% and under,,so for you since you started 12% and now you are about 10-11.. try to not take many pictures every day because at this bodyfat levels pictures can be deciving ...one time you look great one time you look decent etc ,, not good comparisons,, at the end of this stage you will sit at high single digit sub 10%,, 9-10%

>>41814321
week 4-8... this is when you will start getting comliments not only on how BIG YOU LOOK but you will start hearing the word LEAN ,, you will walk around and you will hear alot of wondering of how you got so lean ,, no one will say skinny ,, no one will say small ,, they will all use the word LEAN ,, lean this lean that,, still not thickly lean ,, the thickly lean comes little after down the road,, in this stage you get the YOU LOOK LEAN MAN comments,, this is when veins start becoming very visible in places you are not used to while sitting watching tv you will see veins on back of legs on forarms on inside of forarms on arms on traps on chest,, everywhere again it depend on how prone to veins you are but you will see the veins you have enhanced! ,,you will also get more serpeated and it will be to a level that when you take pictures you finaly will decide to keep them and wil feel very bad to delete them because they will look very good

week 9 and on ... this is what seperate the REAL bodybuild from the wanna be ,, this is where the true mutation coming into play and you really start looking like magazine fella,, it is when you dont need to flex to see the seperated muscle in all its glory ,, it is when you stand and get compliments all over about how YOU ARE BOTH THICK AND LEAN aka YOU GET INTO A ZONE CALLED RIPPED AND THEN A BETTER ZONE CALLED SHREDDED

>>41812046
kills brain cells, halts muscle protein synthesis, fucks all other kinds of biological processes, withdrawal can kill you, addiction hunts you your whole life, loads of calories it lis poison.

>>41814019
Sup Cap, seeing as you're the resident sarms expert, any advice on stacking LGD or ostarine or anything else with 500mg/w test e on a 15w cycle?
I remember LGD helps by lowering SHBG so in turn more free test is gonna be available. When would be the best time in cycle to introduce sarms for optimal gains?

>>41814606
Sarms are a waste of money you could buy real steroids for half the price and they're twice as effective KILL YOURSELF

>>41814311
whats tren face look like?

>>41810837
I have been putting all my shit in an old multivitamin pill thingy for ages when I'm around people who might mind, nobody even notices they magically change size and form occasionally topkek

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>>41814606
What I have read indicates low test 150-300mg/week and high dose LGD 20mg/day or more and 12.5mg/day ostarine for joint protection.

>>41811101
MCT or bust nigga. negligible pip for most compounds (notable exceptions would sting with any oil anyway) and no omega 6 lel :^)

>>41811466
WHATEVER IT TAK.... no, not in this case. Do not pin hamstrings please.

>>41810837
>>41814800
Why even hide it. All woman like men on steroids. Dick gets harder and fuller, more alpha domination in bed

I could understand why you want to hide it from your family, but your gf? She will only see the benefits. Okay beside the paranoia cheating delusional effects some steroids can cause.

>>41814869
maybe to low IQ club sluts who you seem to date

>>41814869
yeah I should have specified, I have no gf (inb4 incel, I just can't be arsed for commitment right now, I get laid occasionally), I use the multivit thing for family, coworkers, friends that don't roid themselves and such, that's what I meant.

>>41814869
>Okay beside the paranoia cheating delusional effects some steroids can cause.
i was about to say. i'm pretty well off in that regard but i remember you posting about going full alex jones on yours a while ago.

>>41814879
Grow up retard MOST women like big guys. And alot of women are intimidated by it hence why they say "ew too big" but would explode into a waterfall if that big guy was inches away from her pussy.
>believing what women say
>omg Michael cera is so hawt.

Fuck off mongoloid

>>41814944
I can tell you're poor

>>41814192
You're a big guy...

Does taking creatine with anavar actually do anything significant? I'm gonna be doing a 100mg ED cycle soon and wanna try it with creatine but i'm worried it won't be worth the extra water weight.

>>41814879
Then you have little experiences with woman, sorry for that we all weren't born with alpha genetics. But i can tell you out of experience that most if not all woman turn into fucking sluts behind the curtains. They act like they're not, but trust me they're.


>>41814886
Understandable. Imo if you hide that shit for you gf she's apparently wearing the pants and she decides what you're doing with your body. Because, why should you even hide it anyway. KEK

>>41814900
True, I am not that fuckedup that i won't admit it. I acted like the biggest beta on this board. It's no joke, i can fuck up your thoughts really hard. I was inside of the mind of the beta

I am glad i don't have it during this cruise.

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>>41815109
Thanks for the hair routine. Where did you hear about it?

>>41815109
reminds me of what I read in a thread (not /fraud/) here a while ago
>never cut under 15-16%
>gf doesn't complain about unnatural fast shredz, has no idea about common signs of roiding otherwise
>can blast like a mad cunt without getting her suspicious as long as I stay semi-fat
what can go wrong haha

>>41815109
>I was inside of the mind of the beta
Had this happen to me on my last tren cycle, started having the most beta fucked up thoughts about my girlfriend and i couldn't stop them no matter what. Shit just wasn't worth it desu

>>41815117
Anytime. I am glad i could help.

Just read it up the internet. Just mixed it all together to try it out. Was really desperate but didn't want to go on fina. I read up some shit it could fuck up with your dick. I remember that JM couldn't get it up anymore without dick pills and he was blasting that shit year round. Yes it might be anecdotal, but still

I am using it for almost a year now. I repaired a little widow peak that developed during the denial phase, but I am not losing any hair anymore. Before i was thinning and losing a sheer amount of hair. Really scary

Only downfall is that my hair got so thick i need to go the barber each 2 weeks now.

>>41815132
It really hurts my eyes reading that, seriously. My gf didn't liked it in the beginning. I told her from the start; i am gonna use steroids whether you like it or not. We had some really shitty argues about it. But i told her, you're not gonna decide what I am gonna do with my body and eventually she accepted it and is now even pinning me. When i tried Masteron for the first time she never complained anymore.

If you can't change her mind about steroids, she don't love you that much period.

>>41815133
I had it too, really worse. Was reading her messages and paranoid about everything and i didn't even used tren. Apparently masteron at 500mg had the same effect on me.

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Just pinned 250mg of test e, first time ever, am i in the fraud club boys yet?

>>41815203
>It really hurts my eyes reading that, seriously
yeah I vomited in my mouth a little too, I just thought I would bring it up because THOSE MENTAL GYMNASTICS THO

>gf never complained since masteron
because of dick/general sex gains, I assume?

>>41815247
No way you're natty. You're blasting and cruising for year based on that pic

>>41815266
They love the roid dick. You feel extremely horny and you want her more. Which gives her an extreme ego boost. They will do anything for attention we all know that.

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>>41815296
Im pretty small irl, its just kind of low bf and real good light combined with pump. Inb4 manlet - 183 cm height, 87kg bw

>>41815296
definitely. not to go into the topic of le tren rapist meme, but my first huge test blast, and after that the first time I introduced dht based stuff, gave me sex gains I didn't think possible at the time. some of it might have been placebo, but a definite change was clearly there no matter what. good stuff.

>>41815247
>>41815314
do you have any pics not taken in that specific room? that lighting is anabolic as fuck, you are correct. not even hating, I just literally can't judge if to mire or not under those circumstances lmao

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>>41815324
Here, garbage light in my room

>>41815338
thanks. I decided to somewhat mire if really natty. good job m80

>>41815349
thanks bebe xd

>>41815314
Wow you look fucking great man. wow mirin hard mirin hard. zyzz is looking small compared to you and he was on tren/clen/dnp combo

Are you sure you natty tho? It's not kind to lie on the internet about whether you natty or not. You give kids on the internet false hope and wrong ideals. You're the reason they will kill themselves with over training and diet regimes. Keep that in mind, while showing such pictures on the internet while claiming the natty status.

>>41815324
Yes it is possible. Test doesn't do much for libido gains. But masteron, damnn. You better warn you gf or get the plastic pussy as backup.

I could litterly cum, fuck, cum, fuck, cum and go on the whole evening. Until the pussy was too sore and i was fucking a dead fish

>>41815387
>Are you sure you natty tho? It's not kind to lie on the internet about whether you natty or not. You give kids on the internet false hope and wrong ideals. You're the reason they will kill themselves with over training and diet regimes. Keep that in mind, while showing such pictures on the internet while claiming the natty status.
says the guy with bicep and ab veins in his natty pics

>>41815387
Not same guy but mast sex gains are super legit. I thought it was a meme. Needless to say, it was not. My dick still hurts when I think about that certain weekend.

>>41815387
Was natty until today xd 2,5 years training
i am small irl, i just look bigger on photos as i said earlier
got only 40 cm in arm circuit, like 65 in my quads and my hips are pretty wide desu but i got nice lat insertions and good delts so it makes me look quite good, same goes for traps
idk if anyone cares, my 1 rep maxes:
backsquat 160kg, frontsquat 130kg, deadlift 210kg, bench 110kg, chin up +60kg
Was doing bloodchecks 2 weeks ago, and it showed my trt was above the norm, so i guess thats a factor too.

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>>41815423
And back pic

>>41815423
No man, i think you also really big irl. You're like that Paul from that pumping iron movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger where he enters the gym and he greets everyone with big. Hey 'big' tony, hey big paul. Great

40 cm? fucking sick, that's like, like enough to let girls wanna feel you arms all the time isn't it.

mirin

>>41815465
kek

>>41815470
I was just fucking around m8.

All jokes aside: you have a great base to start. Everything looks proportional except the legs need some attention.

250mg test-e seems a bit on the low side. Or are you doing x2 ?

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>>41813472
>I have no desire to fuck a redhead model, only to cry in her lap like a faggot
P u r e p o t t e r y

>>41815487
250 e3.5d, so its 500 a week, i think it'll be just fine for my first cycle, gna blast like this for 16 weeks, then cruise on lower dose for 8

Fuck. Just got a notice that I'm moving office to another country next week.

I'm only 3 weeks on my cycle.

What the fuck do? Can't even do PCT. How to smuggle roids to airplane? EU.

>>41812468
haaa haaaa haaaa ahahaaa

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>>41815504
I'm on the same cycle and I didn't look half as good as you to begin with man, you're going to look freeky. Have fun! Remember you won't feel shit for a few weeks but the placebo strength gains are cool anyway

>>41815399
wow, you're pretty dumb.


it's really sad when masT outsmarts you

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>>41815999
sarcasm doesn't really translate well over text, and I am not nearly reddit-tier enough to /s my shitposting. what a conundrum huh

whats a normal price on HGH?
In aus if we're able to be specific

>>41816073
1-5$ (US $ tho) / iu for generic
if you need to ask... :) / iu for pharma

>>41815203
ever consider that if mast makes you paranoid maybe tren doesnt do that and just pumps you into pro league?
you could just try tren a for 4weeks just to see whats happening
>>41815387
masT being masTertroll love it

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I passed out at 6:30pm and didn't wake up until 4:40am. I feel a little bit better now. Did my morning session at the gym, gonna go again later this evening.

I think this superdrol is making me binge on carbs every now and then. I'm already at like 16-17% bodyfat, so not sure how this makes me feel.
Lower back is still in pain from the pumps, have to do shit seated on a bench now for barbell lifts

>>41813299
>>41813320
I guess I will try this later this weekend. I ate my morning meal after gym and I feel pretty stuffed now. We'll see how it goes as far as cravings and mood swings go. Thanks man.

>>41813596
Yeah I was looking at symptoms of low and high E2. It's hard for me to gauge if it's too low or high. It might be too low, despite the fact that my nips are puffy. Fuck gyno, I want to get rid of this so bad. Had this shit since I was 13 :/

>>41813607
There are some days where I feel awesome, and some days where I just spiral down into a hole. I've never been above 200lbs in my life, and I keep harping on myself for never being strong enough. I do need to change something...

Anyone here try Minoxidil for beard/hair growth?

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>>41816175
get those badboys
get your chicken/beef spiced up amd add them to the pan to get som flavoure.
fucking expensive for virtually 0 kcal but at least you have the feeling of eating a shittone

>>41816242
Sides are awful, and even if it works, you'll look like ManletDestiny, do you WANT to look like ManletDestiny? No you don't. For hair, it works well, but the sides thing still ruins some people.

>>41816263
Well all I really need it for is to make my beard fuller, it's patchy in two spots right now. If you can shoot bathtub test into your ass I think the sides are manageable.

>>41816250
That looks mad delicious. I usually get about 20-22oz of cottage cheese into a bowl, mix some cereal in there, and chow down on that. On top of a scoop or two of potatoes, rice, and hella eggs.

If I'm still feeling hungry, I'll get two slices of multi grain bread and slap some cottage cheese in there and have myself a cottage cheese sandwich.

But of course yesterday I just binged on the above shit, with broccoli, spinach, and eventually brownies and cookies...

>>41816168
I really want to, but we all know what gonna happen

>>41816242
Yes it works, i have filled up some gaps and have a full beard now(almost). All thanks to monix. First i only had some islands of hair on my jaw. Use it with together dht's to speed up the progress.

Don't put it on your face before bed otherwise end up like a dead zombie junkie

>>41816335
How long did it take you?

>>41816335
leaving humanity behind, and probably your gf but you aint human anymore so why bother

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>>41816348
Looks like pic related now, but i always trim it now otherwise it will hide my jaw too much

Can take 1-2 months before you start to see tiny little hairs.

Really works, but you have to be patient and don't over do it because you will get some nasty side effects like i had. I just apply it 1x time in the morning now.

>>41816399
I don't know why she even still with me after all the shit i have done to her while being paranoid from steroids

I thought It wasn't worth it, thus i lowered the dose

>>41816486
the thing says to use twice a day, is that too much? What were your sides?

>>41816282
Minox breaks down collagen, so you'll get mad wrinkly way faster. Not worth, IMO. Saying this as a beardlet.

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Do not fly spirit air. Emailed at 4am to tell me my 4pm flight was cancelled and that there were no replacement flights until Saturday. figured it out and got a refund plus I'll still make my connecting flight but what bad customer service. unnecessary.

>>41816508
I used it twice a day also before bed. I got dark circles under my eyes, looked really bad. Read it up on the internet it's no joke.

I use it once a day now and i got no problems. Just make sure you wash it off really good before you got to bed.

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WHAT THE FUCK

WHATS THE POINT OF ROIDING IF I JUST END UP WITH A HERNIATED DISC

just fuck my shit up

>>41816628
nigger you're on roids

just do isolation and you'll blow up all the same

>being this retarded

>>41815490
Yes that's literally it. Got a problem?

>>41813826
500mg tren
0.25mg caber e3d

Exgf says to me

>Do you still have your Valentino cologne? (Practically the only cologne I ever wore around her)
>>Yeah. Why?
>Could you wear it on Sunday?
>I miss it.

Then she admitted she went to a pharmacy during our silent period and sprayed some on a test card and she smelt it before she went to bed so she could dream about me.

She melts my fucking heart.

>>41816803
Knows how to manipulate you so hard.

My throat is so sore :(

>>41815296
says the guy who was 5 times as shredded and a lot bigger claiming he was natty

what a glorious faggot you are

>>41816847
She has no reason to lie to me. Even if she treated me like absolute shit, I'd still be wrapped around her finger and she knows that.

>>41816769
Yes, and it can only be solved by your inevitable death from GRIDS acquired from all this faggotry. Just stop dude, you've got a worse humiliation fetish than BN

>>41816867
What is sarcasm?

>>41814727
Water in the face goes away, some pump to the masseters (maybe, only know for sure about the water).

Makes your bone structure way more defined, looks awesome.

>>41816564
MasT I'm trying to follow your cutting routine to the letter.

How much rice do you eat on refeed days? If you're not positive, can you take a guess?

What are the macros on the cottage cheese you eat preworkout, and how many servings you do? I found a yogurt with 5f/12c/22p and I ate a serving of that yesterday.

Thanks man I appreciate it.

>>41816763
fuck you i want to be strong too

>>41817185
Bigger muscle is stronger.

Get big then run a strength block (70-85% 1rm optima) for a couple months, then overreach and peak to test maxes.

Anyone with longevity in strength sports does this

I hate niggers

I cant put weight on my ankle without pain
Dropping the tren and chillin for a bit

Im fucking l i v i d though
Why even try

my elbow cracks when I rotate it

what did it mean by this?

>>41817268
p sure I got some tendonitis from narrow squat grip and benching heavy 4x a week. My left arm is wrecked. Taking the weekend off and deloading next week. I'll send you some hot packs.

>>41817282
Could be buncha stuff
Do some rehab stretches to see if it helps

>>41817290
Damn
Thanks bb

I already did 10 days off, think ill just chill off tren until after my vacay in july.
Let me clear my vidya backlog

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>tfw wristlet

>>41810837
Im a shit lier. I told my wife that I was going to start, answered all of her questions, let her know what I would be on, and let her know what sides to help me watch out for. Best decision I ever made. She is tottally chill about all of it for years. She sees my progress and now wants to use some gear, so she is starting her first var cycle in 3 weeks.

>>41817135
Tbh i don't count or measure anything. I would say like 150-200 grams, but that's just a wild guess. 30 grams of protein would be my minimum with each meal.

500 grams cottage cheese.

Don't focus so much on your macro's. Just try and do it first to see how it goes. No need to count anything. You think that Arnold or Ronnie coleman counted there macro's. '

When you feel you stagnate just add more cardio, that always helps. HITT is most effective.

>>41817388
when you're big is it autism or discipline?

>>41817388
>been estimating cals on breakfast quesadillas
>actually measure
>estimates right on
God ive done this too long

>>41817418
Whats the difference

>>41817454
handsome

>>41817418
Discipline

Most over here are autistic but not much are big.

>>41817454
>breakfast
>quesadillas
>no oats and eggs like true alpha breakfast
come on jerry

>>41817524
I had a chicken for bfast

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I CANT FUCKING SLEEP ON TREN FUUUUXCCKKKK

literally got maybe 30 mins of sleep last night WITH melatonin

>>41817479
Thats too true
Too true.

>>41817524
Eggs are a cholesterol laden meme

>>41817542
I already took a double dose of melatonin too. I'll try taking 5 tonight.

>>41817534
How can you eat chicken as breakfast, mirin dedication

>>41817559
And oats will reduce cholesterol so you play even.

I am eating like 15 eggs a day

>>41817563
melatonin isn't dosage dependent, won't change shit, google magnesium tren seems there's a connection with the lack of sleep

>>41817637
Or have chicken instead of eggs with your oats

Whatever though im small n fat what do I know

>>41817534
an entire chicken?

>>41817388
You don't know how many cups of rice you end up using?

Was asking about cottage cheese macros because I looked at a bunch of brands and they all were vastly different. Like some had twice the fat and carbs than others per serving. Not cause I'm counting daily macros.

I just count how much meat and carbs I eat before this, but less so in calories and more so "2-3lbs of chicken/lean beef a day with 2-3 cups rice"

Just trying not to overdo it on the carb refeeds out of gluttony since I will make excuses to myself. But if I have a solid plan, "exactly 2.5 cups uncooked rice today", I can't make excuses to eat more than I should because I know exactly what I'm eating.

>do my morning session in gym
>superdrol pump makes me look like I lift
>hours later I'm back to my borderline skinnyfat self
FUCK
GOTTA EAT MORE
GOTTA LIFT MORE
GOTTA PIN MORE

>>41817348
It started hurting like tendonitis while I was benching, that was like a week and a half ago. Now it cracks but doesn't really hurt much at all.

>>41817677
eat 5k calories

Does anyone elses neck muscle just start really contracting while they use the peck deck? Fucking uncomfortable as shit lads

>>41817701
Flex your back and traps see if that helps

>>41817637
it was a rotisserie chicken

>>41817757
....just like your ex?

>>41817756
Will do

Does anyone actually warm up for dumbbell curls?

>>41817831
probably idk don't keep up w/ her i upgraded a while ago

>drop pmsf
>multiple depts buying me lunch at work
Praise be

>>41817680
Might be a lil tendon snap. Can you rotate your wrist fine?

>>41817867
I was just being silly, congrats on the upgrade

btw did you findout what was wrong with your car?

>>41817868
Yeah, seems fine. It just feels weak when I lift now, but enough to ruin the exercise.

>tfw havent benched for over a week

Horrible

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>>41817695
A-already am...

>>41817863
I warm up with my compound lifts

>>41817892
yeah dude it's an o2 intake valve that's nearing the end of its lifespan since its porcelain. I guess it's causing a negative feedback with exhaust and causing some shuddering on acceleration at a full stop. Mechanic says it's not an issue until it cracks, but I'll probably replace it soon anyways.

>>41817863
Not much of one but I do yeah. Just grab 50% of working weight and do a set or two to make sure my joints and shit are moving fine

>>41817917
not* weak enough to ruin the exercise

Also when I do the overhead tricep curl or whatever it's called my elbow keeps cracking, it's really distracting.

>>41817951
That exercise is terrible for elbows
Replace with pullovers and cable pulldowns

>>41818009
What about skullcrushers? They elbow safe? Because while I lift more it seems to aggravate my elbow.

>>41818024
Skip those too
Tricep kickbacks should still be fine

Do you recover from injuries while on gear?

>>41818228
No every injury you get while on gear will be permanent

>>41818235
Still wish I never did roid desu, this broken leg has been hard to live with for the past 6 years :(

>>41818245
Should've got on sarms

>>41818235
>>41818228
Anecdotal but on high test and/or tren soft tissue injuries seem to take longer to heal, but not anything super significant. Difference between a week and 5 days on higher test.

>>41818228

hgh?

is TRT supposed to make me hungry? I had no problems with this before injecting 150mg Test now there's this little voice in my head telling me to go buy thousands of calories worth of junk food and binge eat

>>41818500
I think so. All I can say is that it's so easy for me to gorge on food on this Test E 500mg cycle. I think the sdrol has something to do with it tho.

>>41818535
>>41818500
Same. I could easily eat 5000 cals a day right now. I was for a bit, but I started putting on a bit of fat. I ain't about that glory bulk life.

>>41816564
>wash it off

the instructions don't say to, though. I'll use it once and see how it affects me.

>>41818611
yeah it's like there is no limit to how much I can eat when this shit starts happening, best way to stop myself from eating and binging was to remove all the food except chicken breast and water from my house

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>started first cycle at 82kg
>6 weeks in at 88kg
>got sick for a week, low appetite
>drop down to 86kg
>now week 7 of 400mg test e, only up 4kg, heard it's mostly water
>strength up probably 20-25% though
>a little leaner
>no real MASSIVE size gains
>can still fit in clothes the same, just a little tighter

i thought my first cycle would be bigger than this
5 weeks to go hard, are the best gains yet to come?

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>>41818677
>12 week cycle

besides that, mirin

>>41818730
No bitching about other's cycles until you actually do one yourself, lad

>>41818730
not my legs
whats wrong with a 12 week cycle?

>>41818761
Test doesn't kick in until week 4 and it peaks at week 8, which means you'll only get the full benefits for 4 weeks

>>41818784
So you're saying enanthate cycles should be 8 weeks long?
LOL

>>41818794
Are you retarded? He is saying that 12 weeks is too short

>>41817216
I'll do this but I guess i already fucked myself for the next 6 months

>>41817357
giv muscle wife

>>41818794
No I'm saying 12 is too short you retard. Do it for at least 16

>>41818816
>>41818860
4 hours sleep, this fucking flu man... fucking with my mind and body, totally misread

want to keep this cycle short so i can do another in time for summer

i still have plenty of gains in me, right? :'(

>tfw feel too big
What do, feels like I walk around like a gorilla

>>41818922
I bet you trip over your dick all the time too. Tell me more about your problems.

>>41818922
Post a pic if you're going to humble brag

>>41818930
>>41818934
I never said I am big, but I feel huge and I think I walk around like a retard with an exaggerated posture because of it

>>41818954
Fix your posture then. Work more pulling has helped me with tight front delts and chest

>>41818749
i never got run over by a train either but i know its pretty fucking retarded to do.

nice fallacy.

>>41818964
It's not a bad posture. I already said it's exaggerated, as in too "good".

>>41817085
any permanent facial gains though?

>>41818988
I think the problem is your overflowing mental retardation

>>41813570
Some sources are taking ethereum now.

BTC is pretty easy to use.

I use mycelleium/simplex, which is probably overcharging me. Changelly and liqui.io is good for exchanging coins.

>>41818981
that comparison is pants on head retarded, but ok. just saying maybe actually try roiding instead of TRT if you're going to be mister juice guru around here. no need to get niggerish about it.

>>41819264
im not pretending to be mister juice guru.

everyone and their fucking retarded down syndrome baby should know that 8-12 week cycles are a waste of money.

this is literally what im parroting every fucking thread because im retarded enough to spoonfeed people.

>>41819133
Ah yes there is no such this as pushing your chest far too much forward and your shoulders back, or getting the feeling that you do because muscles

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>>41819264
>>41819305

>>41819316
you're aware of what you're doing arent you?

You bastard.

>>41815203
why did she not complain after you took masteron?

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>police academy in two months
>cop shows up for surprise residence check while I have a syringe of tren in my leg
>rip it out and answer the door
>asks why I'm limping
>"t-twisted my ankle s-sir"

>>41819359
I can't find a comfortable posture though, either it's sloppy and I don't feel like I'm being a poser trying to look big, or it's the opposite. No bully, it's probably just lack of confidence

>>41819431
>doing illegal drugs while working law enforcement

>>41819442
>implying cops aren't the biggest roid heads
>not running tren so you can better fight niggers

>>41819431


Staties where I live test for juice.

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>tfw tank top roid gyno nip slip

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>>41818784
>Test doesn't kick in until week 4 and it peaks at week 8