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The left and right are 6 months apart. What am i doing wrong /fit/

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The left and right are 6 months apart. What am i doing wrong /fit/
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Being brown
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>>41779232
Other than that?
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>>41779241
Being brown and fat.
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Post routine, diet, any relavent personal health information, etc..
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>>41779249
How do I change the fat part though? Been going to the gym and eating decent. Absolutely no progress is a bit too much despite that yano?
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>>41779215
your diet probably sucks dick.
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>>41779215

Cocksucking
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have you tried eating less and lifting more?
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>>41779258
>eating decent

Bullshit.
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Are you memeing? Come on dude 7 months? What's the goal here, for you.
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>>41779215
Diet you lazy fuck
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>>41779258
Unathletic people have no concept of what it means to put intense effort into workouts. If I followed you around for a week I can guarantee I probably exercise more in 2 days.
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>>41779257
19 yo
Indian, as had been kindly stated by the other gentleman
I workout 4 times a week. Eat very little. Been doing pic related except deadlifts(afraid I'll look too noobish).
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>>41779285
>Eat very little.

Again...Bullshit. Anyone who says that without posting what the fuck they eat or how many cals their consuming is absolutely full of shit. You don't have to lie, we can see from your pics you don't eat very little.
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>>41779277
Hard to believe but only sugar I eat is hot choclate like 3 times a week at Uni. Other than that, I only have Nando's when eating out, and have yogurt with grapes and bananas for dinner and eggs, sausages and tuna for brekkie. Sometimes, i don't eat at all. I'm more skinny fat I reckin cuz never been called fat until now.
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>>41779285

The problem is your diet, also do SS.
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>>41779296
How much is that in calories you dense motherfucker
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>>41779301
Not over 1800 I'm sure. I stopped checking via myfitnesspal after a few months.
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>>41779285
How many calories do you eat per day? Give height weight as well. These numbers will be 70% of your answer.

Move DL up because you'll always look like a noob if you don't practice. If you're gonna squat first every day, make bench/DL second thing of the day, always. You want all your energy for the big 3, and what's left in the tank for anything else.
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>>41779296

No you're just fat. It seems you're just eating things you think are healthy and not actually counting calories.
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>>41779285
>eat very little

This may have a part to play. When you eat WAY below your caloric maintenance, your body goes into starvation mode and begins to take everything you eat and store it in a mad-dash to try to keep you alive. You need to eat below your maintenance calorie amount (you can google a calorie calculator to figure this out), but not so much that you body is becoming malnourished. It HAS to be a gradual thing for it to be healthy at all.

Another tip. Being indian myself, I can tell you right now that its almost impossible to count how many calories is going to be in homecooked food. Every indian cook is different, and no one measures anything, its all eyeballed. This includes oil, food portions, all that. If you want to lose weight reliably, you have to either start tracking how much of everything your household chef cooks, or start making your own means with the calories pre-portioned.

Good luck, don't die.
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>>41779296
Nope, you're just fat sorry buddy, not even close to being able to use the word skinny to describe yourself.
>>41779307
No you're not sure at all, if you were sure you would be counting and you would have actually lost weight. You've done neither of these things so you are definitely not sure.
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>>41779307
Start checking. Put it in religiously. If a fly goes into your mouth when you're asleep, get out of bed, google the nutritional content of the fly, and write it down.

It's not because you're fat and you think you're doing 1800 wen you're doing 4000. Well, probably not. When you have a solid number and you don't see progress on your cut, ask yourself two questions:

1. Is my weight going down?
2. Are my lifting numbers going up?

If the answer to 1 is no, subtract 100 calories from your daily intake. If the answer to 2 is no, add 100 calories to your daily intake. If the answer to 1 or 2 is no, you're not eating enough protein (or you're pretty far in your lifting career, congrats). If the answer to both is yes, full steam ahead.
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>>41779320

>starvation mode
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>>41779320
this is the most bullshit broscience post that I've ever seen. OP is just eating too fucking much, plain and simple.
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>>41779320
Have you tried looking up the nutrition in Hindi/whatever language you're from? I know for a lot of Russian homecooked food I can get much better numbers (or, I can actually just get numbers) when I google the food I'm looking for in Russian.
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>>41779320
Kek, what horseshit, even after 6 months of way below maintenance in "starvation meme" you would see some weightloss.
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>>41779327
1. Yes. Gine down by 7 kgs.
2. No. Not recently atleast. But i started dumbell curls with 5 kgs and can do 10 kgs for 2 x 10 now.
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>>41779337

How many calories would you guess are in about 3 cups of borscht? MyFitnessPal says it's 650 and I feel that has to be pretty spot on. Had meat but no potatoes. Also 3 tbsp of sour cream because I'm bourgeois scum
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>>41779340
7 kg isn't great for 6 months but it's better than nothing.

What are your squat/bench/dl numbers? Those are the most important ones.
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>>41779328
>>41779331
>>41779339

>itt shitlords that fell for healthy starvation meme
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>>41779339
Wait so starvation mode is a meme? Should i just start undereating? Just eat a few gours before gym and nothing except natural yogurt and fruit any other time I am hungry? (Max 2 times a day though). I've been meaning to do this but been afraid of the startvation mode thingy.
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>>41779340

What the fuck is it with you Indians and curls.
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>>41779296
count your calories idiot
u are eating more then u really think
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>>41779349
Squat is 40 kgs
Bench is 25 kgs
Don't deadlift.
Not counting the bar, which is 20kgs.
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Start counting your calories. Find your TDEE and eat that 500 less than that. You could take out even more if you want to post wieght quicker. Eating "very little" is not an accurate way of measuring your intake. I never realized how easy it was to go through 1500 calories until I set that as my daily limit.

>>41779285
Also stop focusing on lifting and start doing do cardio. You can focus on building mass when you've lose some wieght.
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>>41779340
looks like you need to lose at least 30 more lbs (or 15kg)
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>>41779354
Idk. Curls are awesome. Feel so good when u get that pump in ur biceps.
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>>41779352
anyone who knows anything about basic science knows that starvation mode is a bullshit meme.
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>>41779320
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>>41779215
you're eating too much
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>>41779346
How much fucking borscht are you eating? I love eating sour cream out of the can with a spoon but the soup itself is pure vegetals. And meat doesn't add that much unless you're just dropping a steak into your soup.

http://www.calorizator.ru/product/soup/borscht-2 this one gives it as 49 calories (the macros here are protein, fat, carbs in that order), and the quick numbers I saw have 49 as the absolute max (a Lent recipe has just 23). These numbers are all for 100 grams.

For added meat it depends how much you add, but this site http://notefood.ru/retsepty-blyud/supy/kalorijnost-borshha.html gives an upper limit of 100 calories per 100 grams.
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1) Calculate TDEE https://tdeecalculator.net/
2) Subtract 500 for 1lb/wk or 1000 for 2lb/wk
3) This is your daily caloric intake
4) Buy food scale (NEVER trust your eyes)
5) Count calories and keep below above number
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>>41779285
How have your numbers progressed?
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This is where i got in 6 months. Feels bad man :(
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>>41779388
Not by much. 10 kgs for squats and bench press. Abkut 5 for dumbell stuff. That's about it.
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>>41779362
Unless Vishnu gave you the shittiest genetics this side of Mars, you should be able to easily get those numbers up. Get some sleep and if you're gonna eat anything sugary, try to do it before your workout. Some people do better on an empty stomach but most need at least a little fuel to start the gears up, so try it out for a few weeks and see any noticeable improvement.

Borrow one element of PPL into your workout. For your big 3 exercises, take the 5th and final set to failure. If you did 5, do a 6th, and keep going until you're physically unable to put up the weight with say 90% good form. You're gonna slip up a little when you go heavy so the end of your 5th set won't be picturesque. Make sure you're doing the rest with at least 95% good form (basically just stay honest with yourself) If you did 5+ reps on the 5th set, next workout add 2.5 kg to your bench and 5 kg to your squat/DL.

Also when you're starting out deadlifts, find someone who's resting and ask them to check your form. They won't mind and everyone started somewhere. Many people will even get a kick out of taking you under their wing, and give you the best advice they can think of (which might not actually be the best advice, but if they lift more than you and they're not riding around in a wheelchair, it's probably worth something).
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>>41779328
>>41779331
>>41779339
>>41779373

Alright, explain it to me then. Include citations (no that random bodybuilding.com forum post isnt a citation). Is eating at a major caloric deficit a legitimate healthy way to lose weight? How is it broscience, your body literally needs a certain amount of calories not to starve? Educate me, you confrontational fucks.
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>>41779422
>Not knowing brahma created the universe

0/10
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>>41779438
Are your numbers significantly dropping? Because if your body is starving, it's going to atrophy all of your muscles in order to preserve its fat. If your lifts are steady or increasing, your muscles are fine, which means your body isn't eating itself alive and is just not being induced to burn enough fat. EZPZ
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>>41779381
Make the borscht yourself and then compare the numbers. It's not that hard to weigh out ingredients
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>>41779438
nah, you're right. if you don't eat enough your body defies basic thermodynamics and creates matter and energy out of nowhere just to keep you fat.

Thanks for educating me
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>>41779445
Brahma, Vishnu, Buddha, whatever man. Personally I believe there are infinitely many paths to accepting Jesus Christ as your personal lord and savior.
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>>41779457
wouldnt christ just be a reincarnation of vishnu tho since Hinduism is older?
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>>41779454
>insult someone for spewing broscience
>get asked for a legitimate explaination
>respond with passive-aggressiveness

you're worse than my ex dude
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>>41779452
650 calories is a lot of ingredients. That's a day's worth of borscht at the latest.

Also curious - what language added the "t" to borscht? It ends in "sh" in Russian and the soft sign in Ukrainian. Did the Poles butcher it like they did with wodka and kielbasa?
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>>41779399
youd see some progress if you counted your calories right. Watch scoobys videos on dieting.

Read starting strength to learn about weight progression and lifting form. Get a gymbro with experience if you can't get the form/motivation right.
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>>41779410
That's ridiculous. Are you not pushing yourself? When I was just starting I could reliably add at least 5 lbs every other session.
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>>41779215
I don't believe you did any exercise friend
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>>41779485
Reading all these replies, I am in doubt myself.
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>>41779438

Don't try to move the goal posts Pajeet, you first tried to say that eating at a major deficit will result in weight loss being stalled. No one is advocating that someone literally starve themselves to lose weight, but if they did, they would continue to lose weight until their body shut down.
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>>41779491
>pajeet

what is this 2006?
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>>41779473

Checking out the links, I see it's probably off by a fair amount. I don't make it rich by adding butter or anything, the only fat in it comes from the beef I cook with it. I'm fine with the estimate being too high, I'd be much more concerned if it wasn't enough
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This plus 2 cocktail sausages(150 cals) is all i am having today and most days. Other than a few bananas and max 2 serves of yogurt a day, I generally have nothing else.
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>>41779508

It's the only Indian name I've heard, and I don't care to learn any more. Just because there's a lot of you doesn't mean anyone gives a fuck.
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>>41779524
>implying anyone ever asked you to give a fuck
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>>41779520
you're either lying or not counting calories properly. I fucking hate idiots like you. Just eat less and only eat things you know you can count.
>>41779468
she's probably your ex because you're an idiot who doesnt know what he's talking about.
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>>41779520
That... does not look small. For comparison, 8 slices of cheddar cheese at the store is 880-900 calories. If you've got meat in there, that's also pretty nutritionally dense.

Bananas are about 100+ calories apiece as well. Yogurt depends on the fat/sugar content so I can't give you a number off the top of my head.

Would you be able to get the recipe for the food on your plate?
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>>41779524

typical 4chan ignorant fuck.
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>>41779544
>he's

okay bud
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>>41779572
nobody cares if you're female
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>>41779572
sorry forgot this was /fit/

he's probably your ex because you're an idiot who doesnt know what he's talking about.
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>>41779544
>she's probably your ex because you're an idiot who doesnt know what he's talking about
>doesn't know what he's talking about
>what he's talking
>he's
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>>41779258
I would worry more about being brown. 2/3rds of Americans are fat
IIRC 15 percent of Americans are black.
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>>41779520
Do more cardio adjust calories
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>>41779550
3 eggs with mushroom and shallots. Tablespoon of salt and some oil.
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>>41779524
typical virgin brainlet
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>>41779543
>>41779563

I'm sorry that your country is famous for being filthy, literal shithole. Maybe one day you guys will warm up to the idea of indoor plumbing.

Anyways I'm out, if I wanted to waste time arguing with Indians I'd call tech support.
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>>41779586
I know what to do about that though. Just get rich and MJ my way through life. But I wanna not be so self consious about being fat for now.
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>>41779438
http://www.nowloss.com/starvation-mode-myth.htm
http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJM199212313272701
http://www.weightwatchers.com/util/art/index_art.aspx?tabnum=1&art_id=35501
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/81391-starvation-mode-myths-and-science
http://www.healthscience.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=512:are-you-in-the-starvation-mode-or-starving-for-truth&catid=102:jeff-novicks-blog&Itemid=267
http://stunteating.com/2010/06/02/the-myth-of-starvation-mode/
http://www.articlesbase.com/health-articles/the-truth-about-starvation-mode-fast-metabolisms-983959.html
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>>41779591
If that is all you eat, and you're not lying to us and yourself, google the nutritional value of everything you just said and add the numbers. Calories, total fat, total carbs, total protein. We can tell you where to go from there.
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>>41779583
>she's probably your ex BECAUSE ***YOU ARE** an idiot who doesn't know what **HE'S** (HE AS IN YOU) talking about

do you understand yet? or do i need to explain it more for someone with a 3rd grade reading comprehension?
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>>41779591

>tablespoon of salt

really? a whole tablespoon?
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Yeah man. Salty is awesome.
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>>41779215
>6 months and literally 0 progress whatsoever
You fucked up bro
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>>41779632
That salt is causing some serious water retention bro. That's part of why you have that gut. The other reason might be the rest of your diet. The third reason is that you probably don't try at the gym.
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Use shit for your phone like MyPlate and have a food diary going. See what the fuck are you eating and how you eating it. What macros are in deficit and which ones are way too high.
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i see progress. a tiny bit more muscle

you should eat a normal amount until full, and keep lifting heavy and working out hard and you will see results

eat nutritious food not ice cream and junk food. if you eat too little, your body wont make muscle cells because it needs calories to build muscle

eat normally
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Water fast. It's your only hope at this point.
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>>41779608
3 Eggs: Calories: 234
Fat: 15 g
Carbs: 0
Protein: 18 g

Shallots:
Calories: 10
Fat: 0
Carbs: 2 g
Sugar: 0.8 g
Protein: 0.3 g
Mushrooms:
Calories: 31
Fat: 0.2 g
Carbs: 7 g
Protein: 1.9 g
Bananas
Calories: 121
Fat: 0.4 g
Carbs: 31 g
Sugar: 17 g
Protein: 1.5 g
Grapes:
Calories: 69
Fat: 0.2 g
Carbs: 18 g
Sugar: 15 g
Protein: 0.7 g
Yogurt:
Calories: 158 cal
Fat: 12.1 g
Carbs: 6.5 g
Sugar: 6.5 g
Protein: 6.0 g
Add or subtract 200 calories I guess.
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>>41779753
Better formatting


3 Eggs: Calories: 234
Fat: 15 g
Carbs: 0
Protein: 18 g

Shallots:
Calories: 10
Fat: 0
Carbs: 2 g
Sugar: 0.8 g
Protein: 0.3 g

Mushrooms:
Calories: 31
Fat: 0.2 g
Carbs: 7 g
Protein: 1.9 g

Bananas
Calories: 121
Fat: 0.4 g
Carbs: 31 g
Sugar: 17 g
Protein: 1.5 g

Grapes:
Calories: 69
Fat: 0.2 g
Carbs: 18 g
Sugar: 15 g
Protein: 0.7 g

Yogurt:
Calories: 158 cal
Fat: 12.1 g
Carbs: 6.5 g
Sugar: 6.5 g
Protein: 6.0 g
Add or subtract 200 calories I guess.
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>>41779362
what the fuck 6 months and 55 pounds on the bench?
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>>41779259
100% this

diet is 90% of looking better
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>>41779765
Yeah aha. I know, is shiet.
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>>41779763
I refuse to believe you're eating <650 a day. Bro you can lie to me but don't lie to yourself
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>>41779797
Forgot the sausages and Tuna. That's another 250 cals. But that's about it yeah
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>>41779258
>eating decent
No.
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>>41779810
If you're telling the truth you'd be losing more weight unless your metabolism is crazy slow, but it would explain why your lifts are shit.

Do you only eat one banana a day? Your other post implied you eat more than one
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>>41779873
No about 2-3. Depending on the day
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>>41779887
Then add 2-3 in you fucking dolt. Make sure you're getting the right serving sizes on everything. Do some division if you have to

The oil has calories in it too btw
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>>41779473
>Also curious - what language added the "t" to borscht? It ends in "sh" in Russian and the soft sign in Ukrainian. Did the Poles butcher it like they did with wodka and kielbasa?
It's "barszcz" you motherfucker!
>>41779215
Stop eating for a week. If you don't lose at least 1 pound - go check your thyroid. Insulin resistance can fuck your shit up even if those "dildos in dildos out" faggots won't admit it.
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>>41779920
Fuck you guys love your z's

Surprised Zyzz was born in Moscow and not Warsaw
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>>41779320
POO
IN
LOO
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>>41779296
Calories in calories out

Indians fucking invented mathematics so make your ancestors proud and add up what you eat in a day you massive faggot
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>>41779215
I will now give you a routine and a diet that you will follow for the next month.

Diet:
Drink only water and one (1) scoops worth of protein mixed with water every day

Eat 4 chicken breasts the size of your fist every day
Eat two (2) large carrots and a bowl of steamed broccoli every day
Eat one (1) banana and two (2) apples every day

Routine:
Workout A:
Barbell Row 5x5
Bench Press 5x5
Deadlift 5x5
Choose three (3) accessories to do

Workout B:
Barbell Rows 3x5
Overhead Press 5x5
Squat 5x5
Choose three (3) accessories

Workout C:
Get a heavy tire and flip it around for an extended period
Get a sled and push/pull it around with weight added to it
Do a light 10 kilometer jog

Schedule for workout:

ABCABCX
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>>41779933
He would by "Dżyszcz" then. We don't like our z's lonely.
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>>41779887
You eat a lot more than what you say you are eating. Stop making excuses and stop lying to yourself.

I've dropped over 20kgs, going from 120kg to around 98kg.
In one day I dropped 1.5kg by only eating like 1.2k calories. My metabolism isn't great, but I train hard. If you were actually only eating 650-800 cals a day during a 6 month window, you wouldn't dropped significant weight.

Stop lying to yourself, learn to properly calculate your macros. You aren't going to get people who are going to kiss your ass and be like "oh its ok bro just keep working at it." It's obvious you are lying.

Wake up to yourself faggot
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>>41779258
try recording your weight every day
try regularly measuring your waistline and other important body measurments - you might not see but some areas could gain mass and others lose fat.

try recording everything you eat/drink for a week and look back on it. it might guilt you into eating better
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>>41780045
>In one day I dropped 1.5kg by only eating like 1.2k calories

water weight.
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>>41780045
You are so wrong on many levels jesus christ.
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>>41780045
READ THE FUCKING STICKY MONGOLOID

THAT'S WHY YOU'RE STILL A FAT PIECE OF SHIT
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>>41779215
You didn't read the sticky
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>>41779307
Fat people (this includes you, buddy) always say the same things. It's like clockwork.
>why aren't I getting results, /fit/?
"How much are you eating?"
>oh I only eat fruit and organic meat and I don't eat sugar and I only drink purest rainwater
"How many calories?"
SAY IT WITH ME, EVERYONE
>oh I don't know but probably around [INSERT RIDICULOUSLY LOW GUESSTIMATE HERE]

You can lie to yourself but you can't lie to us. You know full well you eat more than 1800 calories in a day. You probably eat 1800 two meals in. And you aren't counting your snacks either
>i never eat snacks..
Yes you do, you lying fat fuck. Yes you do and you fucking know it. Stop lying to yourself and us.YOU know why you're fat. You know why. You know you eat shit food. You know how I know it? Because you look like someone who eats shit food and lies about it on internet forums "boo hoo why is this happening to me ;_;"
Stop making excuses for your failure, It's all about you. I'm making it, I don't give a fuck if you eat snacks but it irritates everyone here to see you fatties lie about your shit diet and say
>i don't understand it /fit/ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Track your calories if you want to see your results YES EVERYTHING YOU LYING FAT FUCK. INCLUDING SNACKS. INCLUDING SODA. EVERYTHING.
To make it simpler, people as fat as you have no business drinking soda, eating snacks or eating out anyway.
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I fucking hate pajeets. Their people are like a cancer on this world, and their culture like a tumor.

Someone needs to fucking chemo these shitstains to extinction.
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>>41779215
After you subscribe you're supposed to go to the gym as well idiot
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>>41780625
I am
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>>41780630
don't you lie to me
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>>41779887
if you're really serious about not being a fat shit you should stop eating small quantities of shitty food and eat like 2000 calories of clean food.

oats/baked chicken breast/leafy greens/brown rice should be what you're eating if you really care
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>>41779920
insulin resistance is diabetes. thyroid has nothing to do with insulin, if you really think that your thyroid is fucked tho just try get more iodine in your diet
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>>41779320
PhD in Brosciology? Starvation mode isn't real, the only thing you could justify as starvation mode is your body upping the cravings as a response to eating a strict amount of kcal, but it doesn't magically make you fat.

>>41779285
And you, stop wasting everyone's time, you clearly don't count calories, terms like 'decent' diet scream to me that you still binge out on shit food and justify it by having a protein shake once in a while. Determine your TDEE, -500 kcal and start tracking calories on myfitnesspal. Now fuck off
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waterfasting. starve yourself. EZ results
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>>41779215
i can tell you what you are not doing, it is cardio and proper diet
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>>41779285
work out 5 times a week
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>>41779215

count your calories religiously, log every gram of everything that goes into your mouth

going from fat to lean is 99% diet.

you're eating way more calories than you think you are. It's either that or you somehow break the very laws of physics.

Your body consumes a set amount of calories per day in order to ensure that your blood is at the right temperature, that your heart is beating and all other organs are functioning. If you do not give it enough energy by eating it will tap into your fat reserves. Your body hasn't tapped into your fat reserves for 6 months because you haven't been eating under your caloric maintenance. There's no living human on this earth that won't lose fat if he eats under maintenance.
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>>41779999
Why are rows before big 3
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>>41779258
>Been going to the gym and eating decent
What specifically have you been eating and doing at the gym? 'Eating decent' and 'going to the gym' are faff terms, give me hard stats.
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>>41779438
>Is eating at a major caloric deficit a legitimate healthy way to lose weight?
That wasn't the issue. The issue is whether your body magically stops burning calories when you eat too little, and that's pure bullshit.
You may lose significant energy, which in turn results in decreased physical activity, which lowers your burned calories. But that's not 'starvation mode' that's just inactivity.

>Include citations
Do you own research before running your mouth you lazy fuck.
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>>41779520
>all i am having
>Other than a few bananas and max 2 serves of yogurt a day,
Then it's not all your having. Fuck off with your wiggle words. Every morsel counts. There's no such this as "this is all I have, but also this, and that's it, but also some other stuff, and nothing else, except for more stuff."
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>>41779810
>that's about it
As if you're not 'forgetting' more.
'Forgetting' 250 calories is pretty much forgetting half or all of a normal deficit, that's not small.
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>>41780490
>You can lie to yourself but you can't lie to us.
>>41779797
>Bro you can lie to me but don't lie to yourself
Who do i belieb?
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Hey OP, no worries if you made progress in strength I bet you made some gainz for sure. Thing is you have such a high bodyfat% that you can't see your muscles yet.
If you want to see a faster change in looks I'd suggest dieting, to lower your bf%.
To do so be in a caloric deficit.
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>>41779215
I lost over 15lbs in 5 weeks just with SS + HIIT and - 500cals
I thought Browns were good at maths/medical stuff
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>>41779294

He could eat very little if its caloric dense. It does not take to many scoops of ice cream to add a shit tone of calories.
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>>41779296

If you ate very little you'd lose weight. Look at any communist prison, there weren't any fat people because it's physically impossible to remain fat while eating very little.
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