Gains

building muscle is harder than losing fat.

only disgusting fat fucks disagree

>>41756857
depends if you're starting skinny or large

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>>41756857
This is completely false and 100% bullshit

Unless you're an anorexic twig, getting shredded is 10x harder than getting built

Guys like CT fletcher got 'built' eating countless Big Macs everyday while guys like Andreas Munzer died from getting shredded. He is the pinnacle of shredded.

All you need to get built is test + a 19nor + food

To get shredded below 10%bf and especially lower and stay at bare minimum, aesthetic, you'll need clen, t3 or t4, DNP, maybe keto, growth hormone, insulin, etc...

guys who are actually shredded compete in shows

Being built is just having lots of muscle and likely high blood pressure

>>41757183
>likely high blood pressure
citation needed

whats natty mean

>>41757268
natural, nigger

>>41756851
Shredded is a 24/7 job to get there and stay there. Getting built is mostly confined to the hours you spend in the gym assuming your appetite isn't the same as an anorexic twinks.

hey guys will cardio + lifting shed weight in my face? i want a more defined jaw and plumper cheeks raound my cheekbones instead of saggy/sunken

is mediterranean good for gains?

>>41757360
>mediterranean

wtf

>>41757360
spot fat loss is a meme, but your face will lose fat along with the rest of your body

daego wop diet is decent too

>>41756851

It's always easier to lose something than to gain something.

>unless we're talking about virginity

>>41757183
Sike. Try adding muscle ( I mean a lot) losing fat is a guarantee lmfao

>>41756851
Getting built, without the shadow of a doubt. When you're a natty you shouldn't even try to get shredded, you'll look like a skinny little shit.

Are you all retarded and never learned any critical thinking skills?

Some people are raised with a small appetite and that generally sticks with them, so they find gaining weight harder.
Some are raised with a big appetite, and thus find restricting calories harder.

>hurr everything I find easy must be easy for everyone else
Then why don't you have any friends?

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>>41758375

>>41757449
no it is pretty hard to gain virginity, some would say impossible

>>41757268
no roids

>>41757360
>is mediterranean good for gains?

please don't eat my people

>tfw cutting

>tfw light headed and hours are flying fast

Gotta look shredded lads but I'm dying here

>>41757183
I'm pretty bulky and my bp is 115/69

>>41757183
Some of the specific autopsy findings were an extremely muscular physique with an almost complete absence of subcutaneous fat, a liver that contained numerous table tennis ball-sized tumors (with half the liver consisting simply of a crumbly mass that was similar to polystyrene), shriveled testes, and cardiac hypertrophy (Münzer's heart weighed 636g; a normal man's heart usually weighs 300–350g).

>destroyed his liver for a meme
I guess I'm not going to make it

it is def easier being on caloric surplus than caloric deficit.

working out is hard either way when done right.

ergo, shredding is harder than bulking.

>>41758456
Legends say playing enough wow raises your virginity meter back up to r9k levels

>>41757183

>Maybe keto

This is what gymcels actually believe.

It's all drugs and genetics, keto doesn't do shit except make you shrink even further.

>>41757243
not that guy, but generally most/all things that help you increase testosterone/build muscle also increase your BP. the various steroids, SARMs etc, cholesterol (which your body converts to testosterone), hgh, etc

>>41756851

I'm built but at like 14% bodyfat, 100kg, 5'10, and getting shredded has always been hard. Even with tren + T3 + HGH +test + slin + cardio + diet.

But building muscle, so easy, tren + test + adrol + hgh +slin + food + cardio + high volume as fuck traing. Managed a 205kg bench easily doing that for 6 months, 500mg tren, 250mg test e, 200mg npp, 300mg EQ and 50mg Adrol for the first 4 weeks and last 4 weeks. Liver enzymes are fine, cholesterol is a little skewed (took 500mg - 1 g niacin and red yeast daily), BP was higher but is normal post blast, bodyfat did go up but so did gainz. Not so bad, huh? Hematocrit is now at 48% though after donating blood lol fuk but RBC is 5.5 x 10^-12 and it appears my, from the flow cytometer graphs distrubition, RBC are very mature, which isn't always a great thing.

I'm ngl I find it so hard to shred, even on PSMF with gear, I've neer done DNP though. Idk mang, I am also prone genetically to type 2 diabetes (got several SNPs confirming it and entire maternal side has T2DM)

It's hard senpai, some peopel get it easier tho, I don't. Building muscle is ez tho

The hardest thing is to STAY lean.

Your body wants to have a fat reserve, and will send out all kinds of cravings and hunger hormones to make you pick up the damn fork.

Semi-starving yourself for two months of a "cut" is doable, but mantaining those shreds year-round is super taxing on your willpower.

That's why bodybuilders only really lean out for a short period of competitions, while amateurs cut for the summer months.

Obviously it doesn't apply to skinny skellys, but who the fuck wants to be a skinny skelly?

>>41758747
no xd

>>41756851
It's easy to build muscle if you do your routine.
It's easy to lose fat if you stick to your diet.

>>41757016

what the fuck does this even mean

>>41758824
if you're skinny trying to make it, it's harder to build muscle

if you're fat trying to make it, it's harder to lose fat than build muscle

>>41756851
getting shredded obviously, only delusional 30% powerlifting neckbears disagree cos they think they are 10% bf when they cut to 17%

>>41756851
Shredded

These newfags with these shits threads

>>41757183
Spotted the fatty manlet

>>41758747

There is literally no reason why you can't maintain 10%bf year around as a male, even performance doesn't suffer much if at all.

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>>41758697
This whole post is amazing. PSMF is seriously underrated. I lost almost no strength while cutting on it

>>41756857
it is trivial to build muscle when you don't care about getting fat. only "trust me bro I eat all the times" disagree.

>>41759768

Thats why there are so many fat fucks who call themselves powerlifters as they have given up trying to lose fat

>>41761825

fat boi detected

>>41756851
shredded at some point. Till 10%bf it's easy, below it's hard to keep muscles and get shredded

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>>41761909
>t. "I'm a hardgainer bro I eat 2000 calories a day and can't gain weight!"

go watch Eric Kanevsky's youtube. he loves to bulk and hates to cut. only literal fags complain about eating.

>>41762167
holy shit. that, in five months? how the fuck

>>41762248
Eat clen
Tren hard
Anavar give up

getting built is harder

t. shredded otter tired of being otter

>>41757183
just looked up Munzer. dude looks fucking disgusting. do any /fit/izens actually want to look like that? If you were given the option without any health problems or steroids to just transform to that body, would you do it?

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>>41762503
the thin skinned ripped tren look is extremely popular. I think it looks disgusting. I'd like to look like this.

>>41762537
Why Legendary Bodybuilder Who Died With Almost Zero Body Fat ...
abcnews.go.com/Health/legendary-bodybuilder-died-body-fat-lives/story?id...
Mar 25, 2015 - Although it could not be confirmed, he appears to have died from multiple organ failure, the likely result of years of alleged anabolic steroid abuse. He was 31, and easily recognizable from the images that have gone viral in recent days. Munzer's autopsy revealed he had almost 0 percent body fat, the legend goes.
wtf 0% body fat? I hope I never catch whatever mental disorder pushes someone to do that.

>>41762167
>that musculature, 193 lbs
Turbomanlet

>>41756851
staying shredded

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>>41764040
nah here he is next to an actual turbomanlet. /fraud/ing makes you look like you weigh more than you do.

>>41764040
Eric is 6"0 to 6"1 though.

Anyway, what he accomplished in 5 months is insane but possible with test/clen/tren. Very unhealthy though on the body to gain weight like he did and cut like he did in that short amount of time.

>>41756851
from hardest to easiest...
getting below 8% bf
getting built
getting lean to around 10%