/fraud/

when not having a thread up is better than having to read crusader's garbage

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Redhead girl started talking to me about how she always wanted to try a remote vibrator where somebody else controls it for her when they go out in public.

Don't know how to feel about this. Why is she telling me this?

>tfw told exgf not to worry about me
>"You know I can't do that, I always will."
Feel like crying.

>>41722783
But yet you still keep reading it because inside you know you love it.

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>tfw waiting on bloodwork results

I have my first date with a girl this weekend and two lined up for next weekend with different girls but I got told by a guy on /soc/ that I"m a 4/10

hmmmhmmm

>>41722793
New girl I've been talking to is probably going back to her loser ex fml. So pretty depressed about my ex still now depressed about this, we can't win bro.

>>41722863
Life sucks. At least I only have one thing to be depressed about. Getting your heart broken twice is just fucking grim.

>>41722880
I mean I've only known her for a few weeks but we've been spending a bunch of time together, fell pretty hard too fast and she can't seem to let go of this loser.

>>41722854
Post pic

>>41722901
Puppy love.

Home gym fag here.

Would I be better off joining a powerlifting gym or just ordering off of websites? I'm not asking for online sources, I can figure that out, just asking generally.

>>41722939
99% use the internet. Infinitely easier.

>>41722934
Eh yea this blows she was better than my ex in every way lol. Welllll time to buy some tren and anadrol.

>>41722793
This reminds me of a picture where some girl is having her male friend trim her pubic hair for her. Caption level was "friend zone level: over 9000"

>>41722979
More tren is best tren.

Although now both my shoulders are fucked.
>right shoulder dislocated
>go to doc
>>yeah should be fine and pop back into place in daily activity
>>just don't go to gym for 3-4 weeks until you feel no pain
>Decided that was more of a suggestion than medical advice
>Left shoulder obviously compensates for right shoulder
>Next day, feel massive pain in my left shoulder

Guess who can't go to gym now?

Im at 16 weeks in in test 500 and I feel fat and tired. Can I just drop to a trt dose and start pinning 350mg tren for 4-8weeks? Or do I need to just cruise and cut for 2 months to let my body reset? Or up the test to 1g for 4 more weeks?

>>41722905
NO!

>>41723035
You don't NEED to cruise. But it's wise.

>>41723034
Just use NPP cuck

>>41723074
I do you fucking cuck 25mg EoD. NPP doesn't stop you from being retarded. I'll probably heal in a about 1 or 2 weeks though.

>>41723180
>25mg eod

What's the point

>finally gets shipment from overseas
>heart is back at resting
>going to order again

when will the paranoia about things getting through customs go away?

>>41723406
Therapeutic dose.

>>41723460
200mg is a therapeutic dose

>>41723478
Post your evidence. From what I've read therapeutic doses start at 80mg.

>>41722745
thinking of buying creatine but i dont know, am i a cheater?

>>41723503
>For the athlete or bodybuilder doses can vary greatly. 100mg per week will provide significant therapeutic advantage with 200mg per week being more common as this will ensure significantly improved recovery.

https://www.steroid.com/Nandrolone-Phenylpropionate.php

>>41723503
Heyyyoooo postponing the tren looks like I'm getting some good news boys. Let's see if I come out of this crippling depression.

>>41723535
So 87.5mg is still going to provide ample therapeutic advantage.

Like I said.

It probably ends up being 100mg since I can't measure my draws for shit.

>>41723034
BPC157 or TB500
Ostarine 50mg ED

>>41723550
GG

>>41723555
The lowest end dose is 100 mg you dumb cuck.

>>41723559
I don't know much about that shit.

Things with numbers in their name just give me the sp00ks.

>>41723597
Based on what evidence?

No steroid.com is not fucking evidence.

>>41723608
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Npp+therapeutic+dose

>>41723601

BPC-157 is by far your best bet here, by miles.

>>41723640
You're willing to go to steroid.com and give me a source but then when asked for any sort of serious academic evidence you try to meme yourself out of it.

Fuck off.

>>41723646
Spoon feed me.

does cucksader ever stop getting btfo

>>41723690
Yes duh his doesn't blow him

200 mg test
400 mg masteron

What are the downsides of this stack?

>>41723712
You're not going to put on a lot of mass.

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>>41723706
his ex busy blowing the football team

>mfw cucksader actually believes 20 year old college girls like his ex go months without getting dick

I bet he believed her when she told him it was her first time, too..

>>41723724
Even if I'm skelly from having a shit lifestyle during grad school? I want to use masteron because no gyno and low androgenic profile

>>41723750
If your goal is mass, there are plenty of better stacks. At least put in dbol or something.

>>41723750
>low androgenic profile

heh

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How long before I feel the Tren A kick in nerds?

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>>41723832
Body shape of a plank of wood even with a waist belt.

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>>41723850
Shut the FUCK up she's pure unlike her slut costar who became a poster girl for BLACKED.

>>41723860
I used to like Ariana Grande. Then she turned into this mega-whore

Fuck the jews.

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why is she so perfect

>>41723832
Is that Fagotti?

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How bad of an idea is it to B&C at 19

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>>41723931
Remember when.......

>>41723860
I was not aware that was the same person.

>>41723832
In for this, first pin today

>>41723757
>at least put in dbol

hmm

but muh liver

>>41723940
Not that bad. It's probably not good for you but it's not going to ruin you. Just be wary of what you're getting yourself into.

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>>41723949
/fit/'s little sister....

>>41723954
What about it? Your liver is pretty tough desu, probably one of the most amazing organs in the body. I mean chem's is still working and he doesn't even use liver support.

As long you're not running 100mg ED for 10 weeks. You're liver can recover.

>>41723860
What do I need to take to achieve this transformation?
>inb4 black and jew cock

>>41723976
melanotan

pinned 3200mg eq today

>>41723991
horse dose

>>41723991
Enjoy your blood syrup

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>>41723991

>>41724084
I've pinned worse.
>>41724085
frontloading for 800mg a week

Also added 90mg Adrol ed

>>41724110
What's your entire stack?

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is this possible natty

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>>41723991

>>41724110
You still going for 300lbs?

>>41724117
500/800/90 test eq Adrol

Might add some tren. I've been cruising for a while.
>>41724139
Just fill up a syringe or 2 I guess

What's the best macro ratio on blast? What I've read is high carb, medium-high protein and low fat. So 50/30/20 seems like the go-to.

Is this correct?

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Every day I get closer to killing either myself or someone else

PCT is misery I only want to blast again I don't care about girls or lifts I just want to be a shiny testosterone god

>>41724274
Same as whatever works for you off cycle. Just more cals because you have the capacity to grow faster/more

>>41724153
Oh yeah

>>41724284
no you're not

quit being such a dramatic melancholy shit

>>41724297
Nice. Im not quite as tall as yourself but I am considering doing a year bulk just to get my size up. bulking and cutting depending on the season is so counter productive.

>>41724332
I just feel like actually being thick and beefy I get u tho I usually just gain based on current goals rather than seasons

>>41724346
My dilemma is wanting to compete and i'm looking at pros my hieght in the classic class so that's sort of my goal currently.

I'm a fan of deca and the comfy life. Would EQ stack nicely or would you go with one or the other?

>>41724384
yeah i tend to like my build a lot more when I'm not admiring a pro build feeds my dysmorphia I like deca and eq both but I like npp more than deca and I find eq more versatile than either form of nandrolone. If you want mass go nandrolone but I really like what eq does for me aesthetically and performance wise.

>>41724411
I like deca more than NNP for economy reasons lol
Shame I've dropped a fair bit of cash tren e. Sound's like EQ is worth atleast trying then

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>6'7" 250 lbs

This is peak aesthetics.

>>41724478
Respect for the condition he holds all year round.

>>41724411

What does EQ do for you? I haven't heard of many people using it.

>>41724478

He looks awful.

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>>41724500
He looks like a God.

>>41724478
No, its really not

At that height he should have done something more productive like become a strongman or a rower.

Instead hes just some faggot wannabee.

>>41724306
Maybe so but what is fraud without drama

>>41724500
it reveals some good 3d shit popping delts, vascularity, upper chest pop, little water, not a lot but steady lean gains. Also I never tire on eq so it's great for sex plus it kills my dick sensitivity so I just go forever which works for me since i got a new lady

what's the point of a separate drawing needle when 25g draws just fine? is it for cucks who use a 30 gauge to inject or something lmao

>>41724733
because drawing dulls the needle

>>41724752
you can't even feel a 25g though even if you draw with it

>>41724762
The scar tissue in my quads feels 25 gauages, feels like real good.

>>41724774
stop moving the needle around

dont inject only quads

So the first time I ran tren I had anxiety 8 weeks in and getting in shit with my girl

This time, the second time Im already having anxiety and thinking my girl hates me. But it's mostly in between moments of feeling that untouchable tren momentum

I'm making it now aren't I

>>41724786
side effects are majority placebo

if you read tren will give you anxiety it will give you anxiety because you will have anxiety about getting anxiety

>>41723991
Pls be real

I could legit see someone frontloading this on those massive 800-1200mg+ EQ cycle

P.s. start a petition for short ester bold that doesn't PIP cripple

>>41724821
800 eq isn't much I've frontloaded more than this. I've used like 1600 eq/ week before. 800 is relatively tame.

Been on trt for a year. Lifting for three. Want to run my first cycle. Want to get big as fuck. I lift hard 6 days a week. Perfect diet. What can I run? Since I'm on trt I don't need to pct correct? I just resume my trt dose when I'm done correct? I heard deca is good for joints. I have bad joints and aromatize like crazy. I'm thinking tren too. I am prob 15%bf

>>41724818
Maybe. I don't pretend to have a unique enough mind to be immune to placebo

But I'm on methadone maintenance, slowly tapering. I know what knocks me out and what doesn't. And on tren ace I still slept 5 hours instead of 9 every night for 3 months, methadone or no.

>>41724832
I didn't know you could send messages back to humanity once you'd left

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>>41724846
im tiny fool

>>41722745
anyone have the pic of the dude looking at his watch and it has squat everywhere, and the dude says o shit im gonna be late

>>41724857
That taper/shoulder width suggests extraterrestrial origins

Don't get caught up in the modern "bigger is best" shyeit

>>41724875
at my height there's no such limit

>>41724885
Height is relative with all this social media second life shit people are living. I say you got it made in that case.

I'm not willing to juice enough to continuously grow... though mighty tempting

>>41724818
I never read about tren sides. I got super libido (with 200mg test not high dose test) occasional night sweats etc

>>41724821
Bold Cyp. Front load 2.7x. peak levels from day 1.

>>41724885
What's your bf at the start of your blast? I'm debating how much I want to cut before my test/tren/EQ blast

>>41725021
idk if u scroll up in pretty fat like 12-13% I'm just invested in being beefy ATM

>>41724971
Personally, frontloading is against what I try to achieve. Doesn't make for efficiency or health.

Steroids don't necessarily have tolerance, like traditional drugs do, but there is some degree of the phenomenon. And if you hit high levels immediately there's nowhere to go but down. To me squeezing in an extra week of gains with this method isn't worth just extending the end a week or two.

I read this elsewhere much better explained. Can't find it.

>>41725094
Also i find people greatly overestimate peak level times, e.g. with test cypionate I have confirmed with bloods that about 30 hours is the peak. Most sources say 24-36. Sure cypionate isn't nearly as long as undecanoate, but still considered long enough by most to frontload.

Just my 2 cents. Didn't mean to go off on a lecture but many people don't know this stuff, up until recently I had no clue

>>41722745
25
15%
1 year
Also 6'1" and 162lb.
What do now?

>>41725120
>6'1" 162 lb 15%
>1 year training

dyel ?

>>41725120
Bulk and cut and train for 1-2 years, then come back to fraud

Srs. This will get you the best long term results ("long" being as little as 3 years)

>>41725120
>Also 6'1" and 162lb.
>What do now?
eat?

>>41725120
Cut a few % then actually start doing compounds starting with dead lifts and bench press and eat. Cut back on sugar.

>>41725094
5mg LGD ED keeps SHBG low

>>41723832
I just matched with this hoe on tinder

Any chemists here? What steroid would you get if you took trestolone and added a double bond to the A ring. Kind of like the conversion of test to boldenone.

>>41725372
Or for that matter tren or any other steroid.

>>41725094
frontloading i do only with eq because fuck waiting 10 weeks for results namsayin.

day 2 I don't feel the TREN

>>41725592
Why would you?

Going to be apartment sitting for my brother for a week.

My plan is to invite exgf out for a movie and/or dinner, go back to the apartment. Maybe play a drinking game with her watching netflix or something just loosen both of each other up. Then we both start crying a lot and if everything goes well, we fuck.

Any flaws here? I haven't seen her since the breakup.

>work nights
>if i work
>sleep like a baby 8am-2pm, gym/eat/etc then another 2 hour nappy
>no work
>can't sleep at 8am, usually go straight till 10pm then sleep for 10-14 hours straight

why the fuck am I doing this?

>>41725615
how fucking LONG

>>41725778
I don't know. Jerry says the sides really hit at week 8. I'm on week 3 and don't feel much other than a whiny emotional bitch.

It's certainly tren though because the fucking pip.

>>41725646
you're a fool

that relationship is doomed to fail and you'd both do yourselves well to move on, especially before you knock her up

>>41725945
That's not an answer to the question I asked fuck nugget.

>>41725950
apologies

xd no flaws in ur plan bro u do u

fucking daft cunt

>>41725970
I am always perplexed by /fraud/ when you retards pull shit like this

>Hey, here's my general plan. Any specific details I missed?
>>HURR SHOUVE A BUTT PLUG UP YOUR ASS YOU KEK
>I'm going to go through with the general plan no matter what you say, I asked for any specifics I should change.
>>HURR YOUR A FUCKIN COCK KNOBBLING FAGGOT

It's like you faggots just want self-insert into my life.

>>41725790
>A whiny emotional bitch

Don't blame it on the tren. That's a side effect of being a manlet.

>>41726002
You'd know being a manlet and all I guess. Can't say I do.

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>>41725999
>ask life advice
>get it, but it's not what you want to hear
>complain anons didn't agree with you and hurt your feefees

>>41726013
I'm not asking for general life advice. I'm asking about the specifics of an idea I already have.

>>41725999
>>41726010
Tfw manlet rage is real

>>41725999
Yeah we all wish we were a manlet friendzoned cuck who cries about his ex girlfriend all day not loving him and who herself is getting a train run on her by the college football team.

>>41726020
Dignifying your retarded "plan" with a legitimate response would be giving it too much credit

Fucking hell, dude, man up and move on

>>41726033
Then stop pretending to me.

>>41726033
Cuck is offensive and inappropriate to people engaging in lifestyle choices.

Please call him a C O M O P O L I T A N L I B E R A L

>>41726039
You and I both know that's not optional at this point.

>>41726042
I haven't cried myself to sleep yet this week fapping to the thought of my ex while she takes a fat creampie from the quarterback so can't say I've imitated your behavior.

>>41726020
you've already made up your mind bud

>>41726052
You're really trying though.
>>41726053
Yeah no shit. That's my point. The event is going to happen. It's the how that I want a second opinion on.

will crusader ever recover from this

>>41726069
No.

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>>41726064
My second opinion is that my first opinion was spot-on

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>>41726081
And I throw that opinion in the bin because it's irrelevant to the question I asked desu.

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>>41726090
Don't ever speak to me like that again you piece of shit

Everything I do, I do out of love for you

what's your foreseen duration for being on gear:
bnc for life? few years? just a few cycles?

I saw the sterons subreddit post about a guy coming off 2 year bnc and ppl said he's lucky to have recovered, is this a long time?

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>>41726094
Yeah well love hurts. I'd know.

>>41725646
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BEF-dHoimU

Liver support is a fucking MEME

>>41726109
reddit are the biggest bunch of pussies known the mankind and think you're at least not 30 years old and haven't been at natty potential for at least the past 10 you shouldn't even be taking creatine. Fuck reddit.

>>41726123
hello chem you forgot your trip

>>41725130
>>41725230
Im really only 6' but didnt want you guys calling me a manlet.

will prami fuck my shit up? its cheaper but people seem to prefer caber. want to have it in case I decided to up my tren to 700mg/w and don't plan on breastfeeding

>>41726249
this scared me off prami
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/65j1rw/compound_experience_saturday_pramipexole_prami

Why take orals if you lose all the gains? Seems the only benefit is if you're an impatient faggot who can't wait 10 weeks for results so he takes an oral, gets all his gains right away and then maintains them with the rest of his cycle.

For all the JUSTing it does to your liver and HDL/LDL doesn't seem worth it.

>>41726090
do you have a backup to your great plan if your ex says "no thanks"?

>>41726360
You mean to the date?

No.

>>41726249
Ive kept my test at 200mg when using tren and have never needed prami or caber or anything else.

>>41726389
do you run 700mg a week

>>41726474
500-600mg. Also sensitive to gyno and estro sides. Tren and Anadrol don't give me those sides though.

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>>41722745
I like you.

Also, I was reminded of you faggots when I was in Croatia. Anyone wanna shoop pic related into something regarding a particular word in this ad that starts with t and ends with ren?

>>41726653
>I like you.

stop lying. i don't even like me

>>41723991
putting those birthday goodies to good use kek

>>41726653
>Don't worry, daddy doesn't care you were born a boy since he started taking tren

>Told exgf I was planning on inviting redhead girl over to apartment just for friendly drinking
>she starts giving me one word responses
>ask her if she's okay
>tells me she doesn't know and her chest feels tight

Either I struck a nerve or she's having a heart attack.

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>>41727082

>>41727082
Just when I thought you couldn't get any better

oy lads haven't been lurking in a while, someone (who is not him) give me a quick and painless tl;dr on what's up with this Crusader fellow, I can't seem to find a redeeming feature that would warrant not filtering from this thread alone and am too lazy to head to the archive.

>>41727248
There is no redeeming feature. People find me entertainingly pathetic.

>>41727248
>is a christian
>ex left him
>he wants her back
>aggressively ups the tren to injure himself
>pathetically beta
>is literally shitting money to his ex buying food and stuff
>blogposts daily about his semi-cuck endeavours.

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>>41727082
>seriously you guys I'm not this retarded in rl
>proceeds to be extra retarded in rl
Lmao u can't write this shit i love it

>>41727279
I specifically said someone who is not you, but this seems accurate.

>>41727300
that seems just cringeworthy enough to work then. will follow his antics for a bit before I decide if to filter or not. /r9k/ does flintstone vitamins: the movie. topkek

>>41727248
He seems knowledgeable imo, and the virtue larping can be funny but besides from that you should just filter

>>41727322
any larping I want to see here should deal with sex or absurd stacks optimally though. eh, as long as he doesn't turn into alex levels of annoying I might just see where this is going.

>>41727300
>>41727307
I'll show you all.

>>41727368
>I like you, d-don't come to /fraud/ tomorrow if you want to live

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>>41727368
I sincerely hope u get her pregnant because that's just me babe

>>41727402
Why would you hope that? I mean, I could be infertile by now for all I know. I hope I could get her pregnant but y'know, not now.

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>>41727417
that's just me which ahegao do I get tattooed in debating on the plump tongue hos

>>41727442
That upper left corner one has the correct expression. The rest could be confused for another emotion.

Not /fraud/ but I'm getting some mild gyno (slightly puffy, sensitive/itchy nips) possibly from a hormone imbalance. Would using nolvadex or letrozole help resolve this before it gets out of hand?

>>41727499
it might, altough it'd be just smarter/cheaper to go to a doctor.

>>41722793
>Feel like crying.
Not one of us gives a single fuck you fucking autist faggot. Please, for the love of god, do us all a favor and just end it already.

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>>41727300
triangle, I generally think you're a faggot, but I think Crusader officially outfaggots you. Congratulations on no longer being the lowest faggot on the faggot ladder.

>>41727545
no idea who you are but i guess thanks

Life sucks when both your shoulders are fucked.

>>41727545
Was triangle even that bad to begin with?

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>>41727307
Looking big, bimbsy. What's the story with the scar on your right lat?

>>41727442
top left for sure. top right mayyyyyybe but it looks kinda awkward the more you look at it

>>41727545
lmao are BN tfw's a thing now?

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>>41727082
tren is doing a good job so far it seems

>>41727580
Literally just a stretch mark lmao my lats, delts, bis and lower back are fucked with them

>>41727598
have been for a while. he's a living meme anyway so why not

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>>41727598
Kinda gettin bored here lil guy so I did some searching on the archive since you bluffed giving me real stats... lol, topped out at 220lbs, that means you were one of the guys who couldn't even hit 200lbs natty...

remember you are unable to quit steroids even if you wanted because the humiliation you will suffer from having the people you see every day watch you deflate like a retarded balloon and the crippling depression you will have from a completely fucked endocrine system and scorched earth nut sack that won't be able to produce levels of test even half of a normal mans for at least a decade will surely lead to suicide

you, like all your pictures are just illusions, of course you're on an internet forum, you are retarded(like me) unlike me it takes pictures that make you look huge

Have fun spending money on something you do to impress others, mostly online because let's be honest everyone irl who sees you knows you got a napoleon complex and can't live without drugs

sorry I have to embarrass you on the only real place where you can get any respect from other autists like us. I hope you find what you are looking for and don't realize to late that you fucked up your natural life to be an imitation bodybuilder.

>>41727664
Holy shit you're fucking autistic.

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I really like this TRT dose. I can eat at 1k cals a day and still be up all night, rest less than a minute between sets, and gym twice a day.

Why's test so good bros?

>>41727664
>masT pasta

>>41727677
pot, meet kettle

>replying to pasta in the first place

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Who else pins Monday am and Thursday pm?

>finish injecting 500 test e
>look in mirror
>literally lost vascularity and ab definition since I started heavy bulking 4 days ago
>feel bigger tho

Think I might drop the test dosage to 300mg and add some tren a 500mg for the final 8-10 weeks lads. Feels good eating big to get big (finally).

>>41727082
Sounds like she's jealous.
Try to focus on other grill for a while, then get back to her.

>>41727636
what's your stack right now? myron that v-taper

>>41727664
>>41727677
>not recognizing the masT debacle
come on buddy

>>41727709
I haven't been very active on /fraud/ since I started tripping. I lurked a little but never seen the masT pasta.

>>41724134
youre still a fat fuck go back to the gym

>>41723058
Then yes, you're a 4.

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>>41727720
>I haven't been very active on /fraud/ since I started tripping
>non-stop blogposting
I have some questions, friendo.

>>41727709
that was just 250 test yesterday I started 500/800/90 test eq adrol

>>41727743
Soz I meant to say
>I haven't been very active on fraud, then I started tripping

>>41727743
>>>>>>reading other posts
>not just blogposting all day and only reading the inevitable (You)s
get on his level

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>>41727747
you bnc right? is 250 test/wk your cruise dose? I'm debating PCT after this first blast or just hopping on the bnc life for a bit. I'm 29 so I'm back and forth on it a bit. Any advice?

>>41727793
yeah i do bnc and ye 250 cruise i personally see zero reason to constantly start and stop your hpta when you can remain healthy on a low steady amount of test.

>>41727825
that's what I was thinking as well. I didn't really see the point in PCT and going through all that horseshit if I plan on cycling again before the year is out. Thanks man, appreciate the feedback.

Anyone on GH?
Any tips on diet to minimize sides?

Anybody here juicing in the barracks? I want to start but I also don't want to get fucked during a health and wellness or something

Tren has literally kicked in. Horny all the time, could pretty much kill anyone on sight with cold blood and feel pure joy doing it, enjoy injecting myself and lifts feel easy.

Missed this fucking feeling.

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Oh and noobs, ask me anything. I'll answer every question.

>>41728164
I wish tren did that to me.

>Trying so hard not to call exgf by her pet name
>cuddle my heatpack stuffed pillow
>look at pictures of her on my phone
>weep softly

I've never read anything about tren making you a softer person.

Give me my (You)s

>>41728331
Tren has only ever made me delusionally paranoid to the point where I regularly have breakdowns and consider killing the people in my life just so I don't have to worry about them hurting me

>>41728331
tren fucks me up when my e2 is goofy and when im around my ex. typically tren just makes me horny.

>>41728354
I don't think I'm paranoid. I'm throwing temper tantrums from just really insignificant shit like my shaker cap not screwing on properly, but that's as much aggression as I get.

>>41728385
Fucks you up in what way? Delusional paranoia like anon says?

>>41728387
You're lucky. Tren is godlike for the first few weeks, and then I start to jump at shadows. By the end of my blasts I'm usually on the verge of breaking up with my fiancée because she looked in the direction of another man (this has actually happened and it's a wonder she forgave me for how I behaved) or something similarly stupid.

>>41728409
I've only been on for 3 weeks. Can't wait for week 18 if that's what I can expect.

>>41728387
>>41728354
sounds like you shouldnt use tren.
in general most people really shouldn't i think

>>41728426
Yeah, my last tren blast several months ago was the last one for good, I promised myself that.

...at least until the next one

>>41728422
you'll kys yourself by week 10-12 at the latest if you continue like this. good riddance

>>41728442
Already tried it once, I sucked at that too. Not worth trying again desu.

>>41728354
lmao this did masteron also to me. I almost ended up killing my gf

That's why i can't use tren

Isn't there some cure you can take against this? That paranoia was killing me. Even higher test gave me the same paranoia. I want to take high test for once.

>>41728451
try harder

>>41728394
prone to emotional outbursts and overwhelming mood swings. think teenage girl.

>>41728473
I tried pretty hard plus it's not going to happen since I can't go to Heaven via suicide.

>>41728461
I only get the paranoia from tren, but I get it even at dosages as small as 200mg/week, and I never found a solution. You just have to either suck it up or not use tren.

I think it's worth it for you masT, you'd be a monster with tren

>>41728461
Ive heard that Lyrica helps

>>41728461
>I almost ended up killing my gf

Do tell.

Steroids can fuck you up mentally, it's no meme

I saw the most introvert faggot at my gym on tren changing into a killer. He was texted me all kind of stuff he wanted to kill people, while he barely spoke to me before. crazy

>>41728488
I found that the paranoia wasn't worth the gains. I could't concentrate on work anymore. Nothing anymore. Only terrible paranoia thoughts 24/7. I wish i wasn't prone to it

I was happy when i finally ended the blast and lowered the dose. Can you imagine?

>>41728490
Yeah but you need prescription for it?

>>41728495
I loved her so much on steroids that i wanted to kill her, because i never liked the feeling of love. I don't like to be dependent on other people.

>>41728661
I thought you were a normie masT

>>41728661
"friend" (let's say acquaintance) unironically changed his online gaming username to RoidRageRapist after hopping on trt test and 200/wk tren e. thought he was memeing but nope, he's literally 5'8 of pure seething hate now whenever I meet him. not sure what to think of this. probably a really rare case of placebo.

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Thinking var for cutting + test. I know its good and all but im wondering if any of you noticed changes to your skin while on it?
Does it dry you out?

>>41728331
Kill yourself

>>41728939
This

Is roiding a good idea if you dont make any gains?

>been going to gym for 2 years
>Mostly 2 or 3 times a week doing 1.5hrs of work (15mins of warming up running and then mostly upper body)

do you need to go every day or can you for example take a 2 week break and not fuck up your body?

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>>41728331
>Give me my (You)s

>>41729011
You'd make gains if you worked out on a proper schedule with a proper program with a proper diet - but fuck it, do 800 mg of Masteron ED. Don't worry about a test backer - you won't need it. Use Tren for the last 4 weeks at 700 mg EOD for PCT. You'll sure notice some changes.

hey guys 16 yr old at 5'8" asking how to get hgh before I am condemned to be a manlet for life when my growth plates close.
not asking for sources, just point me in the right direction.
also,
>pls no ban

>>41729281
eat ur tall friends pituitary glands

>>41729281
I assume you've already been asked this elsewhere on /fit/, but have you tried height exercises?

>>41729303
No, what are height exercises?

>>41729281
HGH is outlandishly expensive, so at 16 I think you're fucked either way, bub.

>>41729320
>grow grow grow

I posted before about having pip... I injected too fast and didn't warm the oil up like I should have. Someone said if your flesh turns red, go to the doctor.

I took a shower and my swollen pip spot did turn slightly reddish. To the touch, it does feel a small bit warmer than the rest of my flesh.

Do I have an infection? Is my gear bad? Do I need to go to the doctor? I injected Saturday night, it's gotten worse but I'm hoping it'll get better from here. Not sure what course of action I should clearly take though

>>41729449
Probably fine

>>41729449
Fairly typical of pip if you develop a fever seek treatment

>>41729449
The only thing a doctor would do for that kind of thing is prescribe antibiotics if it's a mild infection. If the site turns nasty as fuck like a brown recluse spider bite, THEN go see a doctor.

Honestly I think you're fine. If it's painful to touch, grab yourself some antibiotics and flush them in you.

so I have been training natty for 3y or so now and I look pretty good but progress gets slow and I kinda wanna go on the juice.

will people around me notice that I handed in the natty card if I go on 500mg test or is that still in the realms of being believable for people that dont know too much about building muscle ?

also how the fuck do I order them online without getting into trouble ? I'm guessing giving them my real name and address is a rather dumb idea so how is it done ? Just give them the address of an empty house up the street or what ?

>>41729922
Here lad, lemme spoonfeed you: https://www.reddit.com/r/AlphaBayMarket/comments/4d2gkx/comprehensive_alphabay_foolproof_guide/

This is how I get my gear. Download coinbase on your phone and get yourself some bitcoins.

Normies don't usually notice that kind of thing. But if they ask, just say you started lifting more and eating more and leave it at that.

Do some research on what kind of chems you wanna buy. Test E is a good starting point for a bulking cycle. You could also throw in an oral as a kicker and/or finisher.

>>41729974
I pretty much know what I wanna do, pretty simple just 500mg Test-E for my first cycle nothing else.

thanks for the guide, only thing is I live in germany and I am kinda worried about the border controls but I guess as long as I find a good store inside the EU I should be fine. Anyone got suggestions for a store within the EU, preferably within Germany ?

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Worth picking up a gram of m-tren? I feel like I probably shouldn't for health reasons but at the same time I'm curious what it's like.

Gonna get some mast e to run during cruise too.

>>41729449
An infection takes at least a day or two to really develop unless you're injecting literal shit. Its just red from irritation because if the needle penetrating the skin

>>41730059
>Worth picking up a gram of m-tren?
yes and no
>I feel like I probably shouldn't for health reasons
this is the no part obviously
>but at the same time I'm curious what it's like.
and this is the yes, because it's the fucking tits if you can handle it

>>41730059

Yes, best oral, up there with Sdrol.

It gives you crazy energy and focus taken preworkout, sort of like a Halo + Amphetamine hybrid.

Gives insane strength, hardening, vascularity and recompositioning. Not super great for adding mass.

Use injectable if you can.

>>41729396

Stop parroting this meme, good GH can be had for $1/iu

He could also take MK-677/Anamorelin for cheap, or a GHRP + GHRH.

>>41730045
You're in Germany? You're in luck then. AB has some awesome vendors based in EU. More reliable than the US based vendors imho.

Either way, their stealth is usually very good. Just make sure you order from a reputable source and everything. Do some digging. Maybe grab yourself some ketamine while you're shopping for me lol

>>41730045
get banned idiot

>>41730045
I'm on your exact planned cycle, and people definitely notice I've blown up a bit, but it's not night and day or anything. Mind you, I'm only 9 weeks into cycle but I look far, far better. The juicemonkeys at the gym actually talk to me now, so I guess it's a little apparent.

also blogpost: had a date with a tall blonde with fake gatsbys last night. had a huge crush on her in high school ten years ago, only recently ran into her at the gym a few weeks ago after I had started cranking. Didn't smash but made out so that was pretty cool desu.

tl:dr - do roids and all your high school fantasies will come true

>>41728843
noob question, did these psychological changes persist after he came off cycle?

>>41730189
>tfw highschool fantasy was banging a milf teacher 20 years my senior
>tfw she's late 50s and super fat and ugly now
not fair

>>41730234
hasn't yet kek, a month to go or so. but I suspect some of it to be overblown placebo anyway so no way to tell

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>>41730189
Tfw you were introverted as fuck in HS and the one girl you crushed on lives in the mountains working at a bagel shop and has dreads now.

Oh well I've found another chill QT.

>>41730079
What dose did you run it at? Do you think low dose deca long term is okay for staying full looking and helping joints? I'm skurred of deca dick though so I kinda want to ditch that.

>>41730096
OK, and hgh dosage for stunted growth children is between 1 and 1.5 iu/kg/week

at a fairly small 70kg that's between 10 and 15 iu/day.

300-450 dollars a month for literally years. that's not cheap, at all

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>>41730238
to be fair, that fantasy is probably even more achievable now... just probably a whole lot less enjoyable.

>>41730264

Ran up to 2mg oral and 1.5mg inject.

I think 1mg inject is best.

>Do you think low dose deca long term is okay for staying full looking and helping joints?

Yes

>>41730267

MK-677 costs $40 to run at 10mg ED for 3 months.

>>41730270
I would definitely fuck her raw and bloody just for closure, but nigga, you haven't seen her. four kids and two decades of lardass eating can turn anybody into something straight out of a horror b-movie

>>41730189
my high school fantasies occurred in hs

>>41730316
>ywn be bimbo in HS
why live

>>41730106
thanks for the advice dude

>>41730163
mind sharing any pics ? preferably how you looked before the cycle and how you look now 9 weeks in. would appreciate it to know what I can expect.

Hmm, I wonder if rubbing some m-tren on my dick will make it grow overnight into a Louisville slugger.

>>41730327
nah I was a tall weird lanky shit i just got lucky that the hottest cheerleader liked that

>>41730402

No but if you're under 25 taking a bunch of DHT's might.

>>41730294
mk677 also does nothing.

>>41730079
Oi I just got some of this. Been taking 1mg preworkout for 6 days now and haven't noticed anything. Does it start in week 2?

>>41730408
still better than my chubby manlet self, but thanks for clarifying lol

>>41730472

"Hurr durr I've never read a Pub Med paper in my life"

The stimulatory effects on the GH-insulin-like growth factor I (IGF-I) axis of orally administered MK-677, a GH-releasing peptide mimetic, were investigated. Thirty-two healthy subjects (15 women and 17 men, aged 64-81 yr) were enrolled in a randomized, double blind, placebo-controlled trial. They received placebo or 2, 10, or 25 mg MK-677, orally, once daily for 2 separate study periods of 14 and 28 days. At baseline and on day 14 of each study period, blood was collected every 20 min for 24 h to measure GH, PRL, and cortisol. Attributes of pulsatile GH release were assessed by 3 independent algorithms. MK-677 administration for 2 weeks increased GH concentrations in a dose-dependent manner, with 25 mg/day increasing mean 24-h GH concentration 97 +/- 23% (mean +/- SE; P < 0.05 vs. baseline). This increase was due to an enhancement of preexisting pulsatile GH secretion. GH pulse height and interpulse nadir concentrations increased significantly without significant changes in the number of pulses. With 25 mg/day MK-677 treatment, mean serum IGF-I concentrations increased into the normal range for young adults (141 +/- 21 microgram/L at baseline, 219 +/- 21 micrograms/L at 2 weeks, and 265 +/- 29 micrograms/L at 4 weeks; P < 0.05). MK-677 produced significant increases in fasting glucose (5.4 +/- 0.3 to 6.8 +/- 0.4 mmol/L at 4 weeks; P < 0.01 vs. baseline) and IGF-binding protein-3. Circulating cortisol concentrations did not change, and PRL concentrations increased 23%, but remained within the normal range. Once daily treatment of older people with oral MK-677 for up to 4 weeks enhanced pulsatile GH release, significantly increased serum GH and IGF-I concentrations, and, at a dose of 25 mg/day, restored serum IGF-I concentrations to those of young adults.


~~ with 25 mg/day increasing mean 24-h GH concentration 97 +/- 23% ~~~

>>41730472

After treatment with 10 mg MK-677, IGF-I concentrations increased 52 ± 20% (65± 6 to 99 ± 9 μg/L, geometric mean ± intrasubject se, P ≤ 0.05 vs. baseline), and 24 h mean GH concentrations increased 79 ± 19% (0.14 ± 0.01 to 0.26 ± 0.02 μg/L, P ≤ 0.05 vs. baseline). Following treatment with 50 mg MK-677, IGF-I concentrations increased 79 ± 9% (84 ± 3 to 150 ± 6 μg/L, P ≤ 0.05 vs. baseline) and 24-h mean GH concentrations increased 82 ± 29% (0.21 ± 0.02 to 0.39 ± 0.04μ g/L, P ≤ 0.05 vs. baseline), respectively.

Currently on almost zero carb and 150 mg test + 100 mast-e, feel skinny AF, WHO WITH ME

feels like a lost almost all my gains. MAKES ME DEPRESSED AF

why even live

>>41728695
So what are you then

>>41728843
It's not placebo. Don't underestimate the mental effects of steroids, it's no meme. It really fucks with your mind. Cruise dose you're fine, but higher dose can fuck you up especially DHT

>>41730475
>Been taking 1mg preworkout for 6 days now and haven't noticed anything.

garbage

>>41730572
Depends on the person. I didn't notice mental side effects when I ran stupid amounts of gear in the past. I only had the typical insomnia, BP issues, bad cardio etc.

>>41730572
idk i feel fat ATM

>>41730589
Shiet, hope the rest of the shit I got isn't garbage as well

>>41730608
all steroids are meme garbage u grow with your mind

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>>41730397
left is before, right is recent on top and bottom. right top has obviously been filtered a bit to make it look like I have more ab definition than I do. Before is ~187 lbs at 6'4, today I'm about 205.

>>41730625
nice height

>>41730631
thanks bby

>>41730625
Did you eat at a large surplus? That's awesome dude.

I'm on week 4 and a half of my test e cycle, which I spent in a mad deficit. I feel like I potentially wasted gains, so I immediately bumped my shit up from 1800 cals to 4000 cals. Now I'm just hoping I can make gains like these for the other 12-14 weeks

>>41730625
thanks for the pics man, nice progress.

>>41730601
it's a never ending cycle of feeling either skinny and ripped, or big and fat

>>41730596
Do you have a gf? That's where it goes wrong most of the times

steroids brings the animal instinctive behavior in you. That tells you to reproduce and make sure that your genetics will be passed to your children. That will create the paranoia. It is suppose to make you alpha, but it made me beta af

>>41723757
>>41723750
Add deca brother, great for putting on mass. my last bulking cycle on deca + supertest gave me stretch marks because I gained so much

>>41730660
>>41730625
Also I dig the tats man. I wanna get some myself but I have no idea what to get lol

>>41723940
Not very bad as long as you PCT correctly and know your shit. I did my first blast at 19 and i'm completely fine. Listen to your body and stop if you start getting problems early on.

>>41730660
Thanks man! I actually did 16/8 intermittent fasting (basically skipping breakfast) while eating ~3500 cals a day. I was (and am) paranoid about getting fat, as though I started at 187ish, I had recently cut down from ~225ish. I definitely am not probably eating as much as I should but I am pretty autistic about the food I eat right now and not eating shit. Are you going for a 16 week blast then PCT or hopping on cruise?

>>41730667
Thanks dude, not nearly where I want to be yet but it's a start

>>41724134
Really amazing progress if that's you. If not, it could be possible natty but I would encourage at least an EC stack with proper dieting. I feel like if you go on cutting gear with that much fat you'll lose weight too fast and be left with loose skin.

>>41724857
Look great. You should cut that body hair though, you'd look way better

>>41730675
Ah thanks man, most of /fit/ has declared tattoos degenerate so I expected to get roasted pretty hard. They say people think for six years about their first tattoo and six minutes for their second, so once the floodgates are opened they add up pretty quick lmao

>>41730718
this is true most of my major recreational investments are tattoos

>>41730732
When are you getting more work done on your sleeve? I made the terrible decision of getting my back lined so now I have the next ~4 months finishing that off

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>>41730695
Yeah I know how you feel man. I started with test and var on a cut and did cut a decent amount of bodyfat from 18 percent and now I wanna say I'm at like 13-14ish percent with a slight belly.
But I rebounded some weight after going straight into a heavy bulk so now I'm panicking a little bit about what I need to do lol.

I can't BnC due to job obligations, so I'm just gonna do a cycle and PCT for a bit.

I mean I am 6ft 180lbs, so maybe I do need the extra weight...

Good job though man, proud @ u

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Testosterone results in. 440 at 22 yo. this is low right? Doc says im in the normal range, so im considering just taking matters into my own hands and doing baby's first cycle. just the bulk cycle recommended on r/steroids for 15 weeks. should that be good? thoughts?

>>41730895
You're not even near low you pathetic shit. If you wanna run roids go ahead but no need to find an excuse.

>>41730788
next week actually I've got a long weekend planned in oly. Sitting for 4 hours for my sleeve. Getting an ahegao on my vg. And I got a great rate on a king suite so I'm having a long time lady friend stay with me and we're gonna see how kinky we can get. p excited actually

>>41730914
For 22? I am also tired all the fucking time. i was hoping it was because of low test because doctors cannot figure it out. Im tired of living off caffeine just to operate at an average level. Well ill run the roids anyway and give it a shot. i dont need an excuse. Im mostly trying to solve my lack of energy.

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It's not gay to tell a guy you'd love to inject his glutes in the locker room if you say "no homo, senpai" after, right?

This tren ffs

Got diagnosed with Schizotypal personality disorder today!

Might as well kill myself

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>>41731018
stop drinking caffeine if you cant stay awake without it dude. get your energy from nothing but proper nutrition and watch your problems disappear within 2 weeks

>>41731365

ohhhh no, ONE mental health disorder!!!

poor guy

>>41731365
Crusader, you forgot to turn on your trip

>>41730946
sounds fun papi, have a good time and post pics when you get it done. also pls enjoy lady friend and never think about ex ever again.

>>41731708
oh yeah lady friend is a catch. we'll see how shit goes but shes def looking at me long term. ill see how chemistry is physically but shes smart tall accomplished thicc and lifts plus kinky

>>41730625
>roiding
>f
>o
>r
>t
>h
>i
>s

I love this Italian pasta and sauce online market

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>on 190 mg e3.5d
>at its lowest point on injection day, test is 1086 ng/dl
What would it be at its highest point?

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>>41731841
>why are you not enormous after 9 weeks on a light test only cycle faggot?

lmao got me dog

>>41731916
>>41730625

Looks nice man, especially only 9 weeks in.

I was going to say it wasn't that impressive but you filled out nicely at your height.


>>41730674
Deca is great. Beats Tren for me when it comes to bulking.

holy fuck the girl I'm seeing just saw the vials of test hidden behind my monitor on my desk and I sperged the fuck out when she asked why I had vials

>>41732104
>not storing it in a locked tin
>not even in a box

Just say you juice/want to.
You'll have to tell her eventually anyways.
What did you say?

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>>41732052
Thanks man, I'm still pretty dyel but here's hoping weeks 10-16 bring some more mass

>>41732104
>I give myself flu shots once weekly, you just can't be too careful y'know

>>41732133
Just a cycle or BnC? You'd get more out of the latter if you don't overdo it.

>>41732121
I told her a friend still lives with his parents and I'm stocking his trt for him

I'm pretty sure she didn't believe me, who would

honestly the biggest reason I'm not telling her is because I don't want an irl
>roiding for this

>>41732167
> Not mine I'm holding this for a friend

No shit...

>falling for the roiding for this meme

2 cycles in and you'll be good to go by normie standards.

>>41732167
>>41732121
lol i still live with my parents I and I keep my testosterone in a safe under my bed.

That being said if they ever snoop in my room (even tho Im 18) my mom will probably freak out. I should probably stash my nolva and unneeded vials somewhere in case she throws it out.

I would be pretty pissed.

She only asked me about steroids once when I stupidly mentioned "workout pills' like a half a year ago when I was still natty but researching roids. I just told her I meant creatine, not that she even knows what my creatine is.

Any tips?

>>41728661
Why the fuck won't it cure my autism then.

High test and/or tren all that happens is I drive more aggressively and get annoyed when people inconvenience me in public spaces. Like the motherfucker last night who decided to do fucking flies right next to me with 4 open goddamn benches dickhead is lucky I like that gym or I might've instilled some self awareness in him.

But otherwise no noticable difference, just a bit of brain fog that goes away soon after I stop dosing.

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>literally lost all ab definition in the course of 5 days and now have a belly
>had to take a light day working out because body was just fucking weak

I hate my fucking life and I don't know what to do.
M-maybe it's the creatine? Or maybe the water bloat from the test?

I just want to die

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Who do you go to for blood work?

I found a place called Private Md labs, for $176:
> Test ( total and free )
> estradiol
> ALT & AST
> lipids
> complete blood count
> psa
> thyroid

What does /fraud/ think?


http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/male-hormone-testing.php

>>41732268

get the female one for $65

>>41732229
Have one box with your current in-use stash.

Make a backup stash that's a pain in the ass to find. You could buy one of those fake shamppo bottles thats made for storing small stuff. Add in some cotton so it makes no noise.

My mom thinks it all comes from protein shakes, aka also "steroids".
Dad knows but he just wants me to be carefull.

>>41732250
Steroids having a gigantic impact on curing autism and confidence is a fucking meme. Change still has to come from you.

>>41732259
How's your diet?
Do you take AI? Maybe you took to much and crashed.
Doing your cardio?
Creatine can add bloat

>>41732268
Tad expensive but that comes from someone that gets them done for free. The things they check for sound good tho.

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Day 3 of my Tren cycle and I've injected thigh, shoulder and now chest. Each time I've felt like I got punched afterwards but I don't really mind. Haven't gotten the "tren cough" meme yet.

Trying a new injection spot every time for the first week to find my favorites. Still haven't done glutes because it's a weird angle and I can't find my VGs.

>>41732289
This but add free test because total test is only so useful. Also SHBG if you want to be comprehensive.

>>41732297
Tren cough is when you nick a vein and blood makes contact with the oil.

I've had it happen twice in one week, and that's been the only time ever.
Just some mild coughing but it goes on for a while