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>>41692837

Going on date with redhead girl.

Will blogpost later.

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>>41702337
Important reminder that this cuck is paying for this female on their "date" despite being friendzoned and NOT getting his dick wet. Just how beta can one "man" BE?

>>41702322

Are there any orals which help substantially with healing?

Im recovering from a shoulder operation and living with my parents in the time being, so injectables are out of the question

Im also only 24 so I dont know if MK-677 will have much effect, any ideas?

Its a labral detatchment if anyones curious

>>41702366
anavar has been used pharmaceutically in the recovery of burns victims with convincing success

combined with the fact that you're not going to be pinning anything you'd want to go for the least hepatotoxic oral with minimal sides, lady doses of var might help you with recovery but desu physio and rest is best

>>41702376

Isnt Anavar test suppressive?

So I would have to pin test aswell

I didnt know it aided healing though thanks

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>>41702322
Why won't tren make me alpha?
Just started 50 mg eod with 500 test e

>>41702424
Fucking weak sauce dose.

>>41702424
Not going to make it

>>41702516
>Not perma bulking.

Give up already

is running dnp while on tren suicidal

>>41702504
>>41702447
>>41702504
What dose then? I'm going for 2:1 ratio

>>41702516
First cycle is definitely a bulk no matter what.Cut down to skelly abs and start cycle there. Your cores probably weak as shit to so you might be going ethiopian mode.

>>41702337
nice ! i hope you die on the way there you shitposter

If I'm injecting every day there's no way I'm using a 25g. What are some good spots to inject with an 30g half inch insulin syringe? Delts?

>>41702969
pussy

Think I'll break it up with my gf after her bday. She hates steroids and I don't think we could live together since roids are long term.
Kind of get the crusader because I love her so much but God damn.

If dnp doesn't burn off carbs specifically why do you start overheating and dying when you eat a fuckload of carbs, but protein and fat doesn't do anything at all? I was actually getting cold eating only protein then I added in carbs and now I am overheating to death after I eat.

The energy for the heat has to come from somewhere right?

>>41703558
Ive been heating up when eating lean meat. No problems with small amounts of carbs.

>>41702567
Start at trt test and 350mg/week tren. Up from there.

>>41703601
try eating more than a "small amount" you will be basically in a coma

>>41702424
Lol. Keep test at 200 and up the tren to 700 minimum. Enjoy

>>41702424
>50mg eod

might as well be injecting vegetable oil? are you fucking retarded?

>guys i am running 20mg of test per week why do i still feel low test

>>41703063
Love is a hell of a drug. I think you haven't communicated with her about steroids well enough. Don't break up with her.

>>41703666
I have she hates it and says I don't care about her since I still use it. Dropped it when I was very ill and said I won't use them again but then jumped back in. It just feels way better to be on.
She loves me a lot and I love her back but she said she won't move in unless I drop them.

>>41703617
Nah I'm trying to lose fat.

>>41703775
was that my question? you are arguing you don't get heat from little bits of carbs. no shit. the point is carbs heat you up infinitely more than protein or fat, so i am asking where the hell the energy to heat you up is coming from if not the calories in the carbs

it's why i keep reading logs on reddit of retards binging on fast food and still losing almost 1lb a day on it

>>41703795
it's the decoupling of the oxidative phosphorylation that causes the heat

>>41703706
>Trying to change you
>Giving ultimatums for her to move into YOUR place

Yeah nah

>>41703842
yeah but why do carbs cause 500x as much heat as anything else? i was actually taking warm baths and using blankets in my house because it was cold from the A/C, now I started eating carbs too and am dying from the heat

had less than 1k calories today too, it's not like i'm binge eating donuts or something, i had rice and a banana

Date finished. It was nice. Wonder Woman is okay. WW1 setting was cool. Male characters were alright. Professor Lupin is not convincing and the Wonder Woman character is infuratingly stupid. There's also a lot of wink wink nudge nudge womyn power going on. Plus a little wink wink nudge nudge white people are racist and evil.

I also didn't like them portraying the Germans as evil but creative liberties and all.

Used redhead girls lap as a pillow during the movie. Was comforting. Cried about my ex to her which was nice. Long hugs are a god sent. Just feeling a warm body on yours is the most calming thing in the world. She said she wants to see me again.

Was worth it.

>inb4 you bought a girl movie tickets for a hug, fucking cuck
She bought me dinner and drove me. I also forgot how tall she was for a girl. Like 5'9" or something. Is weird not craning over girls.

>>41702322
Dubs checkd
Why can we talk about sources?
Usually mentioning the brand name is enough for someone to investigate on their own.

>Dont run ProHormones.
>TRT at 23
>ED at 22
>I fell for the snake oil salesmen

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Thinking of doing my first cycle any suggestions what to take? And what pcts should i use?
Age 20
Bf 13-14%
Weight 96,5kg
193cm

>>41703986
Because 4chan follows US laws which have something about supplying or some shit.

>>41703987
>Before posting, make sure you've read the reddit wiki

Fucking unripe bananas fucking piss me off. Took a bite, tastes like shit, threw it on my neighbours roof.

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hey fellas. freshly into week 9 of babby's first test cycle and i'm finally starting to get mires from all angles. problem is, i'm already hideously afraid of losing size once i pct, but being 28 i don't really want to be about that bnc life just yet. any anecdotal advice for maintaining size after pct?

>>41703849
Not my place we juts thought about moving into some other house.

>>41702366
Ostarine is suppressive but you dont need to pin test with it. 50mg a day has great healing properties. Either BPC157 or TB500 has some oral version I forget which. MK677 would enhance the effects of BPC157 and TB500 iirc.
>>41702424
Because 1) test is too high, high estro means problems on tren.

2) Tren is not high enough, try Tren E at 400-600mg/wk

>>41702366
Why does everyone who lives at home seem to think injectables = doing surgery and completely impossible to hide? I pinned at my parent's place when I visited on the weekend before I left for the gym, I just did it after I had a shower. It takes two minutes and bring your own sharps container.

If you're interested in overall size and gains, would you blast test real high and add ai, or use moderate test and throw in a relatively high dose of something else like deca or tren

>>41703987
Try killing yourself

>>41704170
>Knows he doesn't like unripe bananas
>Picks up banana
>Looks at it
>Can see it's not ripe
>Peels it anyway
>Tries to eat it
>REEEEE YOU TASTE GROSS WHY IS MY GF SUCKING ANOTHER GUYS DICK
>throws it on neighbors roof

>>41704864
lol

>>41704884
It's the manlet rage

Will taking shit like diazepam/codeine make me relax and chill for days at a time to the point that I can just go on an insane deficit and not mind at all? (the roids will protect me anyway)?

always been curious about drugs like these, might give it a test run,.

>>41705250
Try the new research chemicals that are benzo analogues.

Flubrozepam is the long acting one.

Careful, it's a fucking memory deleter also.

dam i am really glad i did not listen to you faggots about doing gear when 19

my nuts are getting juicier by the day,

>>41705743
what? so which way did you go with?

>>41705753
natty hahahaha

now i can put all these kids in yall hoes cuz u infertile asf

>>41705769
I have 3 kids and I blast and cruise with no HCG, still fertile, and yes they are all mine, literally look exactly like me and nothing like my wife.

short question: e3d means every 3 days but how the days are calculated? First pin is on monday and next pin is on thursday?

>>41705743
>Listens to reddit myths about young steroid use.

A cycle at any age without proper PCT and an AI runs the risk of fucking someone up for like. All of the stories you hear of kids fucking up are horrible/complex cycles with a crap PCT and having no idea what they were doing to begin with. If someone knows what they're doing and is comfortable and mature with their choices, there isn't anything wrong with doing basic 12-16 week cycles starting at the age of 18.

>>41705950
correct.

2 days inbetween pin days

monday(injection)-tuesday-wednesday-thursday(injection)-friday-saturday-sunday(injection)

and so on

>>41705743
Doesn't get to enjoy fucking 10s every day while 20 years old. Good luck trying to get 18 and 19 year old college girls when you're 30!

>>41705968
whats the point of doing a "basic cycle"

results you get from it are not even worth talking about

>>41706024
>t. someone who doesn't know how to lift properly

test e only cycles can make you blow up if you're not a lazy faggot who eats like garbage

>>41706024
500mg test e and an oral goes a long way

>>41706024
For one, if you're 18, fucking and mixing tons of compounds Is just asking for trouble down the road. It's best to keep it basic for a first cycle. MAYBE add an oral kick starter. 500mg of test will do a lot for someone who has been lifting for 2 years. It will be like newbie gains on top of newbie gains. Friend of mine started at 17, looked decently fit, and after the test cycle had put on 18 lbs of muscle after PCT and looked like he had been lifting for 8 years.

>>41706089
hahahahahahaha

The "just run basic test-e" brah is the steroid equivalent of "just do SS+GOMAD" broski

all of you are brainwashed by the steroid circlejerk of "gurus, authorities and established practices" that are only reaffirmed by studies that are not even well designed

If you are not doing trest+tren as your first cycle you are completely mad

>>41704841

Forget the test blast, go with a decent amount of test then run deca or bold. If you're going tren, go low test, high tren (200/700) if you go with tren/test e. I personally would not go with tren if you have the ask this question, wait until you understand more. I recommend bold/test.

>>41702322
Can someone please help me. I'm on a 15 week tren e/test e cycle.

600mg test e wk 1-15
250mg tren e wk 1-12

I'm currently one week in. And have just got some HCG.

I'm thinking of taking 500iu twice a week. But which weeks should I take it for? 3-13?

Do you take it during PCT too?

>>41706184
0/10 see me after class

>>41706259
Also, do I need an AI for hcg? and which one will be best suited to my cycle?

>>41706259
>>41706307
you're a fucking idiot and you deserve every bad thing that's about to happen to you

>>41706327
hahahaha the good ole jump in the pool first learn to swim later hahahaha

>>41706184
This is good b8.

Take the most suppressive and anabolic compound to start without knowing how ones self reacts to it.

>>41706184
your argument is as retarded as yourself

if you never did steroids before you start with one simple compound just like when you never lifted before you start with a simple routine and not do fucking german volume training 7 days a week

>>41706259
You really should have done your research and planned out your cycle ahead of time... Read the wiki and your question will answer itself. Take 30 minutes for once in your life to save yourself 30 years of pain and suffering Jesus Christ.

>>41706450
what wiki?

>>41706327
Fuck off cuck

>>41706422
>>41706444
just listen to yourself, repeating the false axioms like bunch of good ole bois

whos a good boy? yall bunch of good boys

>>41706462
Read the original post and click on the wiki link for reddit. Seriously, you never thought to research this crap before you decided to inject shit into your body?!

>>41706602
I did you neet. Done a cycle before, always do PCT.

Waited time on + PCT for next cycle Planned a decent cycle, thought i'd add in hcg just to be safe but there's no clear opinion on when to start taking it. Some say last 5 weeks. Some say last 8. Some say whole time stopping two weeks before. Some say not at all and just use in PCT.

It's not a science you fucking spastic and neets on this board are such nerds that they dont realise that literally hundreds of thousands of men run cycles without AI or even PCT and recover fine

>>41706631
>It's not a science
lol

>>41702534
Pls report back with findings if you live.

>>41706664
No you're right, there are numerous peer reviewed studies on the optimal HCG dosage schedule for a 15 week cycle of tren and test that was probably manufactured in a bathtub.

Nice one cuck

I also don't have an AI because i dont need it on 600mg TEST E. Have done it before fine without an AI

>>41704884
Kek'd heartily

>>41706704
lol

have fun.

>>41706704
>that guy who thinks he doesn't need AI on 600mg of test a week just because he didn't suddenly grow titties
oh man the tren prolactin is gonna eat you alive

>>41706631
Okay. Says the tard that thinks he needs an AI for HCG. Turns on people trying to help him not fuck himself up. Just do you man. Don't come asking for others help and advice if you aren't going to be tolerant enough. It sounds like you know it all so I'll you take over. It's your life after all.

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>>41706704

How many of you guys visit your psychiatrist regularly?

Getting a second opinion on your life from a someone you cannot lie to has been tremendously helpful in my life.

>>41706797
>prolactin myth
>cucks here thinking 600mg of test is a lot

my sides

>>41706800
HCG increases oestrogen hence need fo AI.

I came tolerant and was ridiculed by you neets so you can do one cuck

>>41706897
You had me sleep brother. Report back with findings if you don't die. Everyone will have a good lafff when you come back in 3 months saying that you feel like shit and have tits the size of softballs.

>>41706184
shit b8, m8. my first cycle was test e and it was phenomenal. i wish i could get gains like that again without fucking with harsher compounds

Anyone try Mike Israetel's PL hypertrophy program. Seems to be exactly what I'm after. PL strength training along with hypertrophy 5 days a week.
This kike wants $100 bucks for the routine PDF though and fuck that. I don't be so easily jewed.

Won't* annoying phone posting

>>41707389
>PL strength training along with hypertrophy 5 days a week

AKA "main lift, back-off sets or accessory lift then hypertrophy work"

>>41706471
eat shit you fucking retard, enjoy your ratfucked HTPA axis

fuck why are some of you such fucking mongs

went to get a cut today and my barber told me that I have really thick hair

almost had an orgasmic seizure on the chair

most of you baldcells can only dream about how that feels

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>>41707507

i just realized keto shampoo means nizoral

this shit is OTC in my country

CALL IT NIZORAL FROM NOW ON

Anyone pretty familiar with Aromasin here? I've been cycling on and off for a few years now and it never occurred to me to get my E2 levels checked. I'm currently off cycle for a while now and i went to get a check. Turns out i got some pretty fucking high E2 levels, they ended up at 220 pmol/L which is pretty much 60 pg/mL. From what i've researched it's more than double what the average levels should be.

I'm thinking of using some aromasin for a few weeks to get my levels in check. What dose should i be using to bring it down to average levels? I'll be getting bloods done again in 3 weeks or so after using.

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Holy shit the hunger on cycle is real.

I didn't even lift yet and I already consumed 3000 cals/400g of carbs.

Should I just go ahead and eat when I'm hungry instead of trying to micro manage my cals? 500mg Test E, 100mg ED Var (8 days left of that), 25mg ED of superdrol (bumping up to 37.5mg after I run out of the Var until the end of June)

If it wasn't for the military I'd BnC forever, and truly achieve my goal (Bimbo-ish mode)

What's Bimbo's cal intake/routine/cycle btw?

>>41707389
>costs money must be something new and exclusive and effective something nobody has ever dared to invent.
just du a 5day split with a 5/3/1 for mainlift at the start or something similar
shit is all the same

>>41707627
>>Should I just go ahead and eat when I'm hungry instead of trying to micro manage my cals?

>should i go ahead and be an all american fatass instead of having a diet

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I started this routine yesterday, but once I got to the deadlifts, I was way too fucked to do them, so I did reverse pec deck flyes, since my rear delts are lagging. I've just started running 175mg Test E, 470mg Tren E.

How long will it take for the Tren to kick in so my recovery is better?

>>41707436
I'm moreso interested in the periodization aspect of it. I just lift weight that's heavy but not too heavy for me then deload periodically. I need some set scheduled program that outlines setsXreps based on 1rm% and all that

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>>41707627
I'm just cruising 250 test and training strength mostly at the moment. eating 2lbs of beef daily, whey shakes with 100g pat powder added 4x daily, 2 cups white rice and a whey shake post workout. Not sure on calls I just eat.

I train isolation in the am, and working routine at night. twice a week I'll throw in a third session of power work of heavy triples on incline squat and dead. look up john Otis Hollywood routine that's a basic outline of the dup programming I try to utilize. most working sets are heavy with 8-12 reps and 2-3 drops to failure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfbCLwNlGwU&list=RDCfbCLwNlGwU

Have a lifting song

>>41707729
I'm doing that program ATM. You need to man up not more drugs

>>41707589
No one??

>>41707750
I started that after I altered my dosage. I was just wondering how long it'd take for the effects of the Tren to kick in.

>>41707745
>lifting to CC
my absolute 10/10 nigga

>>41707729
You could substitute some form of dumbbell row or chest supported row for the bent over rows. Those would be easier on your lower back and would probably leave you more in the tank for deadlifts.

>>41707794
Tren E is about 4 weeks until it's at full force I believe? Google steroidplot to see when Tren (or any compound) peaks

>>41707726
So what just try to stick to over 500 cals above maintenence instead of trying to bulk hard?

>>41707745
>CC
I love you even more now. Thanks b.
Thanks for the advice man. You inspire me and my far-fetched dreamer bulk that'll probably end up with me getting fat as fuck. Even tho I'm 6ft 178lbs

Today i signed up to donate blood

>so what's your motivation to donate blood?
>to help people of course
>i want to safe lives

hb was 10,7 after 1 year on. I am still good?

How many times a year do you faggots donate blood? Apparently you can donate 5 times a year. 0,5 L each time

>>41707837
4 times officially, 1-2 times at home as needed (inb4 hurr durr dangerous, I know how to from my job). Will probably be less when I stop using so goddamn much EQ but alas.

>>41707745
Bimbo can I have your advice

I have 60lbs I want to lose.

I would like to stay on TrT until I lose it all then PCT off on HCG clomid and nolva

Does that sound reasonable? I'm already down 18lbs.

>>41707814
I was thinking of switching it to a cable row, just cause it's one I've always done, but free weights would probably be better. I never liked doing bent over rows. I kind of want to add low cable flyes for chest, but I'll decide if I want to do it after I finish the workouts. Same with cable rows, as deadlifts aren't a major back workout, like rows, or pulldowns.

>>41707937
you should stay on I know nothing about pct aside from scaly techniques research what he recommends I haven't come off in 3 years.

>>41707822
>>41707797
yeah nerds i usually hop around some daft punk remixes and electro pop like chvrches but i like abstract discordant melodies in cc and kept came up in my playlist and felt that noise was bangin

>>41707910
So if you only use test and masteron? That's the reason i don't use EQ and also because of the panic effects.

>>41707837
my motivationis to steal all the chocolate bars they give you after donating.
do they ask you or what?

every 3 month they let you donate. havent been in a while cause i take accutan

remember please dont donate while takin accutan and probably high dose tren, that realy can fuck up the reciever

What's the best TRT dose

High, but not too high

>>41707966
I'd rather see our physiques match than music taste (>tfw will never be swole giant), but I'll take what I can get kek

>>41707996
Probably somewhat less, no way to tell without checking hematocrit once in a while, but safe to assume you get less blood sludge from them.

On a related note for others to answer, is EQ anxiety a meme or am I just magically immune? I do get a bit uneasy at stupidly high doses but if I read about full blown panic attacks online I start to wonder what this is about. And no, my shit is confirmed not bunk..

>>41708058
I've never had eq panic attacks and I e run it up to 1800/ week. from what I have read it's a sympathetic nervous system response to high blood pressure. practice good heart health techniques and you may not encounter issues. also people tend to be hypochondriacs with this shit.

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Nand cyp vs deca for a cruise, which would be better?

>>41708119
if you have to ask.....

>>41708118
Ah, makes sense. My blood pressure is top notch even on adventurous stacks, good genetics and muh cardio I guess, so that should explain it. Nice, thanks!

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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE JUST FUCKING ANSWER MY QUESTION I HAVE 2 BOTTLES OF PIC RELATED, AND I ALREADY TRIED TO ASK MY DOCTOR BUT HE THREATHEND TO CALL THE FUCKING COPS ON ME IF I EVER ASK SHIT LIKE THAT AGAIN, I'M A 19 YEAR OLD AUSWHITZ ESCAPEE, (130 LBS) and a little over 6 foot, (60 kg 184cm. IS IT SAFE FOR ME TO TAKE FUCKING DANABOL*?

>>41708206
can u get a higher resolution image i can't read the brand name

>>41708206
if b8: kill yourself
if genuine: kill yourself, but use a more painful method

>>41708267
Why? no im not baiting why the fuck cant you just explain to me why ?

>26
>15-20%bf
>190 lbs 5'10
>almost 1 year and a half lifting
>155/250/350/400

I'll be honest guys, fuck being natty. Should I wait for 2/3/4/5? If no, how should I start?

>>41708058
I personally found that all side effects listed for various gear is blown out of proportions.

Especially Tren, I got a bit grumpy, expected rage.
Not saying they can't be real, but alot of shit is easily solved by pausing for a moment and realising "I am using X, thats why I act like Y".

I also keep a faggy journal with all my dosages, routines, physical issues and emotion troubles and can spot certain trends and behaviors before they get out of control.

I wish i could do sterons desu senpai

But I fucked up experimenting with stimulants so bad that I don't have another "it was just a fluke" society card and get anxiety about anything that I have the potential of abusing.

Yall pretty lucky

>>41708370
Drop the bodyfat and feel free to hop on the juice.

>>41708395
I love tren I'm actually calmer on it than off it desu
Not gonna lie I get them feelings like " bitch please, try me" but I m actually happier and friendlier while on it!

Girls are so much easier while you're on it too, as if they smell the tren leaking

>>41708395
I've been meaning to do that, but I mostly rely on vague memory. When you've been using for a while you get a sort of sense for winging it anyway. Not the healthiest approach, but it works for me I guess.

>>41708054
125mg e3d. I like it. I don't worry about Monday morning Thursday night shit. Just set a reminder on a app on my phone that's goes off every 3 days at 9pm

>>41708395
nothing faggy about taking a methodical approach to altering your physiology

>>41708477
I love life on Tren. Shame you can't blast it year round. Gets rid of some really nasty suicidal feelings for me.
I'm incredibly focused and sharp on Tren.

>>41708494
Despite keeping track, coming off does make me realise I got used to same alternative behavior.

>>41708041
Right? Why would they even. Maybe they were suspicious

I took accutane 2 years ago

>>41708574
Something in me wants to try it, but fucking high test and masteron
even fuck with my mind pretty hard. Always get really paranoid. I am weak minded

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>>41708574
>coming off
h-heh yeah

>>41708647
Why not add in some Deca?
And holy shit man your physique at your dosing is amazing.
Hope you don't feel like upping because you are stalling, otherwise just enjoy keeping your sanity.

The only reason I blast 1g of test, 600mg deca and 600mg mast with 100mg var sprinkled on top is because I'm compensating for a shitty lifestyle right now.

Is the overwhelming desire to hit up trannies a sign that the tren is kicking in?
Asking for a friend.

>>41708736
Isn't that why we take Tren in the first place?
The fact that it happens to build muscle is just a side effect nobody asked for.

Do any of you guys take finasteride and arimidex?

Im planning on running arimidex, as my ai and taking 1mg every other day, and Im also planning on taking 1mg of propecia every day it's a test e cycle 500mg a week.

Have you guys ran into any problems mixing these two?

>>41708770
No but arimidex 1mg eod is going to wreck you.
Go with 0.5mg eod.

>>41702969
Delts, quads and chest.

>tfw a girl you're hooking up with tells you your hands are small for someone as tall as you are
REEEEEEEE IT'S HGH TIME

>>41708678
you should really lower your dosage, im sure most of that is wasted

>>41702969
>tfw your first cycle was 50 mg of prop ED through a fucking 22g needle
As long as you're not using the same needle you draw out of to pin with 25g should be fine.
If you are, stop that. Get a different set of needles for pulling oil out of the vial.

>>41708817
How would it be wasted, my body seems to be reacting really well. Making more gains then any previous cycle despite a less clean diet and lack of sleep.

>>41702969
seriously grow the fuck up, your big enough man to use inject in the first place use 23g

>>41708813
Drumpf?

>>41708054
150mg per week

>>41708678
>>41708678
I am gonna try deca for my next blast i think. Do you need caber tho? The source we're using is fucking expensive

I trained natty for years unlike most over here.

I want to up the dose, but i have to be single then. i have respect for my gf she's still with me for the shit i have done to her, kek

>shitty life
I just have insane body dysformia that will never end, so i can't stop STOP THINKING FROM BEING DYEL

sometimes i wish i was just dyel and not caring about how big everything needs to be

>>41705250

stay the fuck away from benzos

t. went to hospital after getting accidentally physically addicted to Etizolam, flushed it all and next day in ER with RHR of 144BPM in a huge panic attack. Now on a diazepam taper to ease me off over 2 months.

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>>41708054
Bloodwork from cruisin on 250mg test cyp/week

I inject 125mg on monday & thursday

How bad is the hair loss effect from mast.
Also describe the skin benefits please.

I've done several blasts but only ever test-e. Wanting to add something else to make me look sexier.

Thanks.

>>41708784
my source only has 1mg caps and I read the half life on it is 48hrs can I switch to aromasin mid cycle?

>>41708969

~1,800ng/dL serum Test, low SHBG and low E2 on just 250mg Test?

something doesn't add up here with your E2 and SHBG levels

>>41708953
I only need caber on high tren but your mileage may vary.
Keeping your estro in check also prevents nasty prolactin sides, but I might be wrong on that one.

Shit man I'm glad my girl puts up with my shit as well. I have issues from time to time, not gear related but I don't think that helps in her mind.

The moment I started working out and got the feeling of seeing my body grow has left me with the thirst of wanting more.
It all started out so simple, get in shape and stick with ottermode. My goal has shifted to full blown SS Goku mode.
Pretty sure I won't be happy enough once I reach it.

>that feeling when you hear people freaking out over your arm size in the background

>>41709008
+/- 1 month after tren blast with some aromasin because i was getting sensiv nips.

>>41708964
what's your opinion on MDMA, can I safely do it once a month and not fuck myself up?

i've done it once before and it was incredible, but i'm worried about long term shit happening

>>41708973
mast is okay but you'll only notice it if you're really lean. it's too expensive for what it does imo but if you can find a deal then w/e

>>41708969
Waar test gedaan?

>>41708964
yolo

>>41708973
really bad, but you have enough counter medication. Iam cruising on masteron, never stopped using it

dick gains are fucking crazy.

No skin effects for me. It acts like a mild ai. Lower e2 is mostly less acne.

>>41708999
Cut them in half with a sharp knife.
Get one of those hobby knives.

They all come in 1mg as far I know.

>>41709028
Huisdokter bloed laten afnemen. Die ze dan vervolgens opstuurt naar labo.

>>41704884
is she really sucking someones elses dick any proof? i know women move on way faster than men but ouch.

Still chubby but my arms chest and shoulders are making good gains. Would i experience any negative effects if i took one cycle?

>>41709021
Thank you sir.

THE RIDE WILL NEVER END

>>41709048
Met welke reden? Ik neem aan dat ze niet zomaar gaan checken.

>>41709028
>>41709027

Thanks guys.
Hmm I may not be lean enough then, currently sitting around 14%. I'll give it a try next time I cut.

>>41709042
sorry if this is a retaded question but, they actually come in capsules, can I open them and somehow pour out half the powder?

>>41709093
Jaarlijkse checkup, het hangt ook veel van je dokter af ofdat ze bereid zijn om je eventueel te helpen met hormoon gebruik.

De hoofdreden dat ik daar was is omdat ik een gebarsten ribbenkas heb.

>>41709121
just pour half into a glass of milk and stir it with a steak knife

>>41709121
>>41709147
This should be fine yes. Don't worry to much about exact dosing.

Y'all niggas never answer my routine questions. Pls something other than 5/3/1 and is 5-6 days of strength training. I don't want to get a coach, I just want to be strong ;_;

>>41709196
Most powerlifting based programs are 3-4 days because you need rest.

this one goes out to crusder.
i lifted to this today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkmUn0WUgFE

>>41709196
>asking a bunch of jacked up monkeys that can make gains by slinging dirt around
>thinking there is a set routine that works for everyone

Try a high volume 3-way split or find something else you might like.

>>41709196
GZCL Jacked and Tan 2.0

>>41709196
brick's routine has treated me well, although it's tough on my shoulders so I had to cool it with the dips

a1
flat bench 5/3/1
chest dips 4x6
incline bench 4x6
preacher curls 4x6
rope hammers 4x6
seated db hammers 4x6


a2
flat bench 4x12
chest dips 4x12
incline bench 4x12
preacher curls 5x12
concentration curls 5x12
reverse grip cables 5x15

b1
deads 5/3/1
chins 4x6
bb rows 4x6
cg bench 4x6
tri dips 4x6
skullcrushers 4x6

b2
deficit deads 4x8
chins 5xf
kroc rows 2x12 2x20
cg bench 4x12
tri dips 5x12
skullcrushers 5x12

c1
high bar 5/3/1
front squat 4x6
rdl 4x6 (romanian dead)
ohp 5/3/1
db ohp 4x6
lu rows 4x8 (lu raises)

c2
high bar 4x12
front squat 4x12
rdl 5x12 (romanian dead)
btn push press 4x12
db ohp 5x12
lu rows 5x12

a1/b1/c1/x/a2/b2/c2/x or switch b1 and b2 position

block 1 is all heavy, block 2 is volume and specific targeting of weak points in the 3 lifts

>>41709243
>>41709196
This seems like a good routine that I would use.

>>41709230
the fuck is this gay shit

>>41709196
Candito's 6wk has you in the gym around 5 days most of the time.

I don't know if it's optimal for sturrod users though.

>>41702322
Done research for well over a year now, think I'm ready to make the commitment. But I'm only 19 lmao I know its shitty for you but I don't really care, anyone else who started young wanna chime in and support my poor decision making skills??
-19
-13ish% body fat
-training for 4 years

>>41709243
Exactly what I was asking for. I've tried seeing if someone had his program for weeks

>>41709273
please dont judge me.

>>41709236
I was going to ask if this was a meme but program looks legit

>>41709295
205 lbs too forgot to mention, 6'0 tall

>>41709232
>find something you like
Sure does seem to be what I'm doing by asking around. Seemed to work as welll

>>41707389
Just run Sheiko. Feel free to add more accessories (especially back work) if you recover well enough.

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>>41709302
np brother. i have most of his shit saved

if you encounter shoulder problems with the routine, make sure you do dislocations and/or buy a shoulderok from kabuki. W raises are also quite nice in combination with lu raises, but keep them on the lighter side

i think dips just upset my shoulders because of my frame, but figured i'd mention

>>41709343
you should stop listening to that shit posthaste before you go looking for dick at truck stops

>>41703940
>Cried about my ex to her
pls
pls tell me this is not true
pls
pls

>>41709370
>>41709232
Also I've seen what some of you call "gains" I'd say there needs to be a little more effort put towards programming and diet than trannies and Tren imho. Trannies and Tren are great but business first.

>>41709075
Pls, im really thinking about doing a cycle just so i can slim down quick and build muscle at the same time.

>>41709345
it most certainly is not a meme

>>41709345
It is. Basically the best plug and play strength/hypertrophy routine to give people who ask in these threads.

Really though you should learn to do your own programming, as long as you follow core concepts you're getting 95+% of potential gains. Only matters if you're already elite, or are trying to get there, and at that point you pay for a coach

>>41709391
>delts the size of head
DELET THIS

>>41709404
How did I miss Crusaders post.
Holy shit that should have been a recipe for disaster.

But good for you if she wants to see you again.

>>41709391
shoulderok is some great shit. thought it to be a meme but boy was I wrong

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>>41708964
How did you get enough Etizolam to get addicted? I ran out pretty quick and am down to only Flubromazepam which is way worse.

BTW Chem you ever try Kratom?

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>>41709465
you on the left

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>>41709391
I'm married no truck stops here.
I'LL NEVER QUIT.

>>41709524
sadly yes

brb tripling dose and upper body volume

>>41709391
I'll look into the shoulderok because I have some minor aches but man is that thing pricy

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Just tried blood letting. This 20 Ga hurt like fuck going in. Got like 10 ml of blood before it started to clot. I'll probably just donate blood in a couple weeks

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>>41709532
>I'm married
Sorry
but real, check yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G7FTO3HxAA

>>41709562
its ok lil guy you'll make it some day

>>41709614
Gay. Suicide boys is where it's at.

>>41709524
I'd take being left over right every single day

you have to have literal brain damage to want to get that huge

>>41708964
Jokes on you... i experimented with meth just once and overdid it so much i was in an ambulance with 160 BPM, kept going back to ER because I was having panic attacks and nothing was helping... a day later I ended up checking into a psych ward because I was getting nightmares and had constant anxiety about everything.

I am still fucking dizzy and anxious 2 weeks later and was put on low dose 1mg risperidone idk even why

Like a true mental patient i still have not taken a single tablet...

Add that to /fraud/ warnings

Meth is all side effects no pleasure

>>41709646
Don't worry you'll never be half that big. You don't belong here

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>>41709568
worth every penny desu
you could get someone else to do the same thing by hand, just not as reliable

>>41709608
>not bleeding yourself into a grimey bathtub
how do you expect to compete with the likes of jerry

>>41709635
too weak for me

>>41709646
stay small i guess

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>>41709488
>Question chems ability to get copious amounts of drugs.

>>41708157
K.

>>41708574
>Shame you can't blast it year round
T-totally bro, an 8 month tren blast would never be something I'd do. /s

I'm gonna die.

>>41709688
That's soooo fucking disgusting. I get queasy enough going to Red Cross every other month

>>41709682
but I just said I don't want to be half that big

did that insult make sense in your head?

>>41709728
Yep because you couldn't even if you tried. Seems like you could at least recognize it was a insult

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>>41709688
>not bleeding yourself into a grimey bathtub

>Not getting your former phlebotomist gf to bleed you using proper equipment.

Get on my level

>>41709682
>You don't belong here
lol if you think this thread isn't about physique bodybuilding

>>41703558
>If dnp doesn't burn off carbs specifically why do you start overheating and dying when you eat a fuckload of carbs, but protein and fat doesn't do anything at all?
Because dnp blocks ATP synthesis.
Carbs are basically immediately synthesized into ATP when you eat them, so your body can't do shit with many of the carbs and it sweats / pisses / shits them out quickly. For proteins and fats it's doing the same, but over a more extended period, which means eating fats / proteins doesn't cause the sides to peak as much

This is (part of) why you die when you take too much. Because your body can no longer synthesize the energy needed to do even basic tasks from any source, including what's currently in your body stored as fat. So it keeps trying to burn more and more muscle / fat in order to get enough energy needed to live, but the end result is that it overheats you in the process and you fry your body.

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>>41709646
>>41709728
>coping this hard

>>41709661
>Meth is all side effects no pleasure
huuuh

>>41709725
just use deca btw
why would you fuck with shorter esters if you're just cruising anyway silly

>>41709750
>having a 3d gf
fucking normy

>>41709761
>taking steroids to be small
Hmmmmmmmm

>>41709804
so you don't know what physique bodybuilding is, ok, thanks for your input Mr "please give me a routine"

>>41709761
lol if you think this thread is about bodybuilding

>>41709804
>implying people at Olympia's men's physique are natty
lol

>>41709488

I get 100 x 1mg Indian Pharma Etiz for $50

Yes, Kratom is the shit but it's got to be good. Careful of headshops, buy it online.

Maeng Da is the best IMO, stay away from anything but loose leafe/powder. FST and UEI are like crack and are bad news.

>>41709661

Wasn't meth, probably a-PVP or a-PHP or some other garbage.

Meth is very anxiolytic and smooth.

>>41709829
B L O G P O S T
L
O
G
P
O
S
T

>>41706259
this can't be real

megalul

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>>41709815
Please post your "physique" pleb

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Would you rather be HUGE but 20% bf or lean and ottermode?

>>41709875
mirin vascularity

>>41709901
well im about as ottermode as can be so

>>41709909
No pump brah. It gets crazy when i get plenty of carbs preworkout. I'm going to start blasting a bit very soon and I hope that'll bring out even more

>>41709855
i miss mossad's blogposts
epithets of nazism and the dangers of chocolate pussy

>>41709875
you're actually real close to surpassing mast, especially lower body

are those ingrown hairs on your calves? fix that shit before your skin is fucked

>>41709975
Not on calves but I have one or two on quads. Calves have two long lines from skin dragging on bar from shit diddylift form. Haven't had bloody shins in awhile though.

Also I'm nowhere near mast level big lmao

>>41709975
mast is a manlet even a dyel 6'3" guy looks like more of an alpha automatically

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>>41709901
you only have to pick one if you're natty

if you're on gear, you're doing it wrong

>>41710018
height n weight?

Alright lads can someone tell me the best ai to take with a tren and test cycle pls. I'm thinking aromasin

>>41710031
False, just look at strongmen. They're taking a shitload of gear and they're all fat AF aside from Mariusz Pids.

>>41710041
Turbomanlet 5'8 174lbs and dropping

>>41710018
>Also I'm nowhere near mast level big lmao
not with that attitude nigga
1-2 decent blasts at a decent surplus and you would be

>>41710046
they're fat by choice, and it's beneficial to their sport
plus it's not just fat anyway

>>41709975
superslav's blogposts were interesting too.

>>41710073
Not saying I couldn't get bigger but I'm not at that point yet. I've only got three years of training under my belt and I'm still learning.

>>41710043
adex a shit, literally killing igf levels.

>>41710070
welp. need more 6ft roiders to compare myself to.

>>41710129
literally raising*

>>41710129
Cheer is 6'0 I think but he barely posts anymore. I saw him the other day

>>41710129
I'm thinking aromasin because it's better re lipid profiles

>>41710217
just take aromasin.

Only ever use adex when you're an absolute poor cunt.

>>41710226

Or don't use so much aromatizating gear that you need AI?...

>>41710249
Another reason to TREN it up

>>41710249
c-can i do mdma once a month and not fuck my brain up

thx sempie

>>41710249
Exactly. Seems like everyone goes through the 3 grams of gear a week phase though.

>>41709875
Stop posting this shitty fucking pic I'm sick of seeing you're shitty chest genetics, miring wheels tho

Adex is better than Aromasin, Bostin Loyd uses Adex.

>>41710277

Depends on dose

100-150mg total, probably

I can't not eat at least half a gram in a night tho.


>>41710278

>AI
>DHB, Tren, Mast, Primo, Var, Epi, Winny, Sdrol, M-Tren, M-Sten, Halo

Literally why

>>41710403
Adex literally fucks you up because of the rebound estro if you miss your schedule once.
Also did anybody tell you how easy it is to crash your estro on adex? Happened to me twice, not fun.

Also Bostin Loyd is a fucking retard, this dude took so much prehormones he was leaking brown shit out of his nipples when he was 15.

Imma quote lee priest on this one "when the genetics train was pulling in at the train station, Bostin was at the bus stop."

Test + Primo + Proviron + GH is the stack of the gods

>>41710460
>GH

Fuck off richfag

>>41710460

Test + DHB/Mast + Proviron/Mestanolone + GH

>>41710473

>Several tested generics for ~$1/iu
> $3-4/day

Damn son you broke af

>>41710484
I figured you were taking an actual dose of HG like 10 iu not an anti aging cuck dose lmao

Good GH at a reasonable dose is $500 a month

>>41710496
>>41710484
>>41710473
faked, it is at best, peptides and MAYBE GH fragment. Still useful, but you might be able to just buy some peptides and save some money for the same results.
>>41710474
Dropping primo for mast is fucking retarded

>>41710539
Not everyone has money out the ass to drop on Primo m8

>>41710565
If you are smart enough to run primo over mast you are smart enough to homebrew

>>41710598
not everyone has the place to homebrew. homebrewing is piss easy anyway.

anyone living with roommates/parents.

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>tfw gf is 89 iq and believes me when I tell her my tren is hormone therapy from my doctor

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>>41710625
>dating niggers

>>41710673
She's Mexican

>>41710474
>Not Trest + DHB + sdrol

>>41710683
Not much better m8

>>41710722
That's the "JUST GYNO MY SHIT UP" stack

>>41710728
Latinas were made to be bred by the aryan cock

>>41710739
Sure, just don't stick around after giving her the genetic upgrade.

>>41710732
Maybe you should stop being a fat cunt then and cut down to double digit body fat

>>41710790
>having triple digit bodyfat
????

>>41710798
I know what I said fatty

>>41710625
Do You fuck her ass too

>>41704884
In my defence it was at that stage where it's difficult to tell.

>>41709404
Why wouldn't it be true?

>>41709474
I keep telling you guys I'm not as retarded as you thinks I am but nobody believes me.

>>41710358
Talk all you like but I don't see you posting anything, friend. :^)

>>41710753
Are you trying to pay child support you retarded nigger.

>>41707837
Is this for free bloodwork?

>>41710539

It's not faked you fucking retard, Jano has GC/MS'ed Black Tops, TheGreyTop, and Godtropin and they've all been real, with Meditrope being 56% overdosed.

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>>41711053
>>41710539

>>41711079

"Remember that this isn't pharmaceutical HGH. Testing on PM by Jano and internally by TP show TheGreytop HGH is accurately dosed and Meditrope HGH is overdosed (~15 IU in a 10 IU vial), however, testing on MESO (using a different method) show TheGreytop being slightly underdosed and Meditrope still being overdosed, but not as much as what was claimed."

>>41709027
MDMA once a month is way too often, I try to keep it to twice a year

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>trt finally came in the mail
>injected 70mg of the test in my thigh
>didn't even feel it, no PIP
>injected .4 ml HCG subq
>didn't feel anything, no leakage, no lump
>injected 50mg tren in my shoulder
>feels like I got punched

How come quad and subq didn't have any PIP but the tren in my shoulder hurt? Is shoulder generally a place that gets PIP easier? Or does Tren give more PIP?

>>41711505
>he fell for the injecting delts meme

>>41711505
Because tren.

I can inject mls upon mls of test into my ass no problem, even feels good sometimes. But 140mg of tren still gives me some immediate pain.

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>>41711532
I'm hesitant to pin ass because they only gave me half inch needles and I worried it wont go deep enough and will end up being subq.

Also how big of a deal is a little air in the needle when injecting IM? I push the air out until the oil starts coming out of the needle a bit but I can still see like an air bubble/gap at the top of the syringe needle side when it's upside down.

>>41711575
I pin with half inch. As long as you're pinning the upper outer area, it's unlikely you'll do a subq.

A little air bubble isn't going to hurt you.

>>41711505
test pip especially with cyp/enanthate esters only start kicking in around 1.5days after pin

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>>41711595
Ok thanks.

>>41711606
You're on TRT right? Do you get any pain with the tiny .5ml shots of test? I could see people injecting 3ml having some pain.

Then again my shoulder hurts from just .5ml of tren A.

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I miss the gym lads. I want to do more than heavy ring pull ups, dips, and pistol squats. The field is so boring.

It's so easy to over-bulk on MREs, too. I'm probably gonna rebound everything I lost on my 2 and a half month long hard cut in the next week because this shit is so calorie dense.
At least I have my proton powder...

Hold me /fraud/

>>41711662
This is what you get for being a kike puppet.

I fucking hate Jews so damn much.

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Make sure to watch plenty of pornography, goys!

>>41711680
>kike puppet
Whoa there settle down big fella.

If anyone wants to be a /fraud/ in the military, go airforce and choose a pog ass job. You get to be comfy, eat quality food, and go to nice gyms.

Otherwise try to avoid this shit

>>41711705
>In his book XXX-Communicated: A Rebel Without a Shul, Luke Ford wrote about a conversation with Goldstein, in which Ford asked Goldstein why the porn industry contained so many Jews. Goldstein answered, "The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don't believe in authoritarianism." Ford then asked, "What does it mean to you to be a Jew?" To which Goldstein responded, "It doesn't mean shit. It means that I'm called a kike." Ford also asked, "Do you believe in God?" Goldstein said, "I believe in me. I'm God. Fuck God. God is your need to believe in some super being. I am the super being. I am your God, admit it. We're random. We're the flea on the ass of the dog."

>jewish "culture"

>>41711633
on pharma i get pretty close to zero

on some ugl's i did get some even only 0.25ml.

>>41711575

I only pin with 29g 0.5" insulin syringes in my glutes.

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>>41711866
Why such a small needle? I literally can't even feel the 25g needle.

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>>41711866
How do you warm the oil to get it to go through the pin? Armpit or something more sophisticated?

My old work laptop I used to run Folding@Home on would have a hot exhaust I'd put the syringe next to for a few minutes that would get it warmed up enough to get through a 27g OK. Nowadays I use armpit and it's still too thick but I make it work.

>not pinning with 18g

post pics of ur pussy

>>41711884

Maybe I'm just a pussy, but 27-29g is where I can't feel it. And I don't like pinning.

>>41711904

>Draw oil in regular 3cc syringe with 20g 1.5" needle
>Pull plunger out of 1cc 29g 0.5" insulin syringe
>Squirt oil in the slin pin
>Replace plunger
>Inject

It's called backloading m8ey

>>41711905

I was tired one morning before I switched to slin pins and once forgot to take off the 20g 1.5" and switch to 25g 1" for pinning.

GF stabbed into glute and I jumped the fuck back, blood was errywhere.

Never did that again

>>41711934
back in the day bodybuilders pinned with 18-20g pins

looks like a small nail basically

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>>41711905
Dude I was hating myself one day and tried pinning with the same 18g 1.5" needle I drew with.

I could only get it about 1/2 into my quad and my muscle was twitching and shit.

I'm glad I tried it but shit.

Now I know why nurses will do shit like this with truculent patients.

>>41711940

I'm well aware, old-timer told me in the 80's when he started, 18g in the quad was the norm.

Seen him use a 20g in the delts like nothing.

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>>41711949
>truculent

fuck OFF college boy

>>41711965

Are you lambasting his bombasticism?

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>>41711977

>>41711940
I use 21g, no pip but scar tissue worry me desu senpai

Just got my first pair of compression boxers and I think I'm addicted. Feels nice, make my quads look goods and keeps my dick and balls in place.

$10 a piece though

>>41712133
I forget what it's like to have balls swinging around.

>>41712143
invest in hcg instead of paying for your ex gfs food LMAO

>>41712160
I could afford HCG if I wanted and pay for my exes food. But like, I don't see any point of HCG if I'm not coming off.

Makes your dick look bigger anyway.

>>41712197
Girls like the look of BIG MEATY BALLS it means you're a high test potent alpha whose going to impregnate them.

Redhead girl is still texting me saying she wants to have more time with me.

I can't tell if she wants my dick or she's just as emotionally invested in my relationship with exgf as I am.

>>41712218
From personal experience girls don't see to like balls very much. Just a saggy sack of skin seems to gross them out.

>>41712233
she wants to see another movie for free from mr. friendzonemccuck

>>41712233
>girl is still texting me saying she wants to have more time with me

WOW

A GIRL WANTING ATTENTION

REALLY?!!!

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>>41712253
She paid for my dinner which was more expensive than the movie.

>tells me to get whatever I want
>tfw first steak in 3 months
>tfw curly fries
>tfw loaf of cheesy bread

>>41712273
Pls no bully. I can't tell if she wants my attention or she just wants to be involved in the ex drama.

>>41712285

All females want attention.

The literal worst thing you can do to them is ignore them.

>>41712370
But does she want my dicc?

Maybe I'll ask her to come to church this Sunday.

>>41709243
>doing triceps with back
Never gunna make it m8

>>41712384
Holy shit

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>go to the movies with a girl
>rest your head on her lap like a cuckold beta and cry about your ex
>invite her to church for the second date

Literally what the FUCK is wrong with this kid

>>41712407

answer ur texts nerd

>finally bought summer lesson
>jp version, not hk/sp version so its not english
>get uncomfortable about how close a vr girl stands

I am so full of self hate right now
Too bad I have 5 months of tren left

>>41712429
>rest your head on her lap like a cuckold beta and cry about your ex

The first part of this is /comfy/ as fuck tho.

>>41712407
Please don't start.

>>41712429
It's not a second date you fucknugget. It's just so I can actually have somebody to go with for once. Old ladies are nice and all but it's a lot more fun when you go with a friend.

>>41712445
not something you do on a first date. makes you look like a mommy issues weakling.

>>41712466

What if you're a switch and you pulled the chick and have been acting obviously dom but are trying to gauge her abilities in the reversed role?

>>41712434
Can somebody put this into non-weeb for me?

>>41712484

jerr-bears bought a VR combat training module so that he can crush all of the faggots who have shit talked him and his waifu with his SICC Tren gains.

>>41712456
lmao ho I will forever give you shit for that
>>41712483
I like this smart lad also what texts my lte suxxx ho

>>41712495
jerry is so fucking alpha.

>>41712531
I deserve it.

>>41712484
I ordered the wrong version of a game so its not translated (added it to figure preorder, not thinking that jap figs would ship with a jap game)
And then the vr girl makes me uncomfortable. A goddamn virtual ass bitch
Goddamn Im irredeemable

>>41712531

Oh, I was wondering why you hadn't responded.

Like 'I spent all this money to come see this dude...'

>>41712553
I would actually pay money to be uncomfortable around girls again. The hot rush you get to your face, the tensing of your legs and chest, feeling your heart going through your chest.

You're too pure for this world.

>>41712580
Yeah its fuckin great being unfit for society

>>41712616
You'll get through it jerr-bear.

>>41712616

you better come see me too