How to induce sleep?

For me, I count backwards from 100 reducing counting every time I exhale works for me. Also the environment helps, quiet, cool and dark.

>>41686968
Nyquil and other sleep aids usually work pretty good.

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>>41686968
I use Ativan
Prescribed
I don't wake up 8 times a night now and it's the first time I've had a full nights rest in years
1mg every night
DO IT

>>41686968
sometimes if i'm really struggling i 180 the direction i was sleeping so i'll put my head where my feet were and vice versa
no idea why or where i got the idea but it has a pretty high success rate

>>41686968
Watch asmr massage videos. That helped me so much. Other than that you can take benadryl which is otc at most convenient stores. Listen to a few love study/relax channels on YouTube and try to be calm. You can build this behavior over time. Even when your brain is done growing, you grow 700 new neurons a day which is enough to slowly sway behavior.

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>>41686968
Get a good book and read. Don't read from a screen, no phones or tablets, those fuck up your eyes, only actual books. Make some brain gains on the process.

>>41686968
Melatonin if this doesn't work get prescription drugs.

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>>41686968
Get hydrolyzed gelatin. Mix 2 tbsp in water and take it about an hour before bed. Knocks you right the fuck out. Good for your stomach and joints too

>>41686968
OP keep in mind, Benadryl is incredibly habit forming, Ativan is nigh impossible to get a script for because it's addictive and abusable.
If I had to reccomend a sleep aid drug it would be pot. Only before bed so you don't become a degenerate stoner, but even then, being able to get to sleep naturally is preferable. Stay out of your room all day, only use your bed for sleep or sex. Go to bed at the same time every night, wake up at the same time every morning. There will be a lot of nights spent lying awake at first, but eventually your body WILL fall into a rhythm, and sleep will come.

>>41686968
if you're a dude just jerk off, its a built in sleep aid

>>41687810
>If I had to reccomend a sleep aid drug it would be pot
No, pot helps you fall asleep, but it doesn't give you restful sleep.

>>41686968
No screens 30min to an hour before bed. Try working out close to the time you want to head to bed.

Bro I just fixed my own sleep problems and I'll share what I learned with you.

Don't eat anything for hours before you want to fall asleep don't drink anything to hours before you fall asleep take 300 mg of magnesium Glisan eight with your last cup of water at night, it helps calm the brain. Also 24 g of hydrolyzed gelatin, that also helps calm the brain it really works for me.

The most important thing to do is go to sleep and wake up at the same time every night no exceptions. If you truly want to fix your sleep, this is what you have to do. I did not say this will be easy, but I did say it will work.

Also turn off all electronics one hour before bed all this blue light is really killing us with our sleep gains.

If you really want to fix your sleep then, during this transition. We are setting your good habits, no caffeine at all. Why? It is a stimulant and it will get you hyper. Let your body get set into its own habits of working itself up in the morning and winding down at night, thrown in caffeine for whatever reason is not going to help you.

I don't know what your work schedule is like, but if possible I strongly suggest to go to sleep with the sun and wake up with the sun. We humans have come along way, but we are still operating under the caveman jeans from a very long time ago. Those guys were woken up naturally by the sun and they had nothing else to do when it's dark so I just went to sleep. If for whatever reason you just absolutely can't stick to that, then be as close as you can to it in an hour or two after the sun ? Well it's still better than waking up at 1 PM,

Last but not least, during this transitional period, when you wake up in the morning, drink a cup of water and then go lay out in the sun for about 20 minutes, 10 minutes on each side. Why? Because the sun hits your skin and then your skin will produce its own vitamin D, this is part of how the body knows it's daytime and it's time to wake up.

I take a benedryl and melatonin and it puts me right out. Make sure you have enough time for a full night's sleep or morning is groggy and rough

Doing this every morning will really help kickstart your body into starting a new and improved sleep schedule.

>>41687810
Nigger what, benadryl is not habit forming wtf

>>41687913
Melatonin has NEVER been shown to help keep people asleep or induce sleep. Its all placebo if "it makes you tired"

>>41687913
Taking stuff like melatonin pills and Benadryl is not going to help you out in the long run. Your brain will eventually get used to the melatonin pill and stop its own natural production of melatonin and even then, the melatonin pill is one single worst of melatonin, while the brain will naturally produce it in several bursts throughout the duration of sleep

Taper off the medication over a period of three weeks and then get off of that forever. You're not doing yourself any favors by buying this synthetic stuff that your body makes on its own

>>41686968
Try forcing yourself to masturbate in your bed repeatedly until you feel the need to sleep, but no pornographic material, just your imagination.

>>41687356
I do this too but I change directions by 360 degrees

>>41687758
Thanks but I don't want to tan?

>>41687939
That is absolutely false

>>41687948
100% of melatonin ingested orally is NOT absorbed dont be fucking stupid. Stomach acid destroys melatonin before it EVER makes it to your small intestine

>>41687980
Nigger you made the statement that it does something. Link me to a single study that orally ingested melatonin does anything

>>41687985
You're fucking retarded. It's like you have no idea that scholarly journals exist.

>>41688030
Hey cunt lick, I'm the one bringing up studies. Like I said if you're going to make dumbass claims like ingested melatonin does anything, you better have a study to back it up, or you need to stfu, if you have no idea what you're talking about.

I have to get up like 4-5 times a night to pee, what's the deal?

During the day it only takes like 20 minutes for a glass of water to pass right though me as well.

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>>41687810
>>41687834
>No, pot helps you fall asleep, but it doesn't give you restful sleep.

this. quit after 4 years of smoking every night. i actually have dreams again and feel rested in the morning

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>>41686968
1. establish a time range that you'll go to bed within
2. melatonin 30-60 minutes beforehand for a natural assist
3. clear as many thoughts out of your head as you can
4. stick to it and repeat

ALTERNATIVELY, if you want something that will definitely help but would be a bit more expensive, find some good quality, indica dominant marijuana and have yourself a good smoke session an hour or two before bed. deep sleep guaranteed, well rested morning inbound.

also, late afternoon cardio is very good for getting myself good and tired. i do it 2-3 non-consecutive days a week for 45-60 minutes on the days i'm not weight lifting, which i do 3 non-consecutive days a week.

>>41688049
Melatonin has never been shown to do anything. Link a study if you have proof otherwise

>>41688057
>moron doesn't know what melatonin is
>wants me to do his homework for him

nah, sorry squirt, but you are factually wrong. learn to use google or fuck off with your blatant lies.

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>>41687762
What did you mean by this anon?

>>41688049
Nah man, I'm all for smoking a fatty J every once in a while, but I've been smoking 3 hours before bed every night for around 4 years, I quit recently after hearing it effects gains because it kills your REM sleep and I feel so much better that it makes me cringe how much time ive wasted. Also once you start using it you cant get to sleep without it, I've laid in bed for hours without even feeling groggy

>>41688098
it's gonna rebound like crazy after you kick it

Get a bedtime and no napping during the day.
Make sure your sleeping environment is as dark and quiet as possible. If you live in a noisy environment consider using white noise to drown out other sounds.
Nothing to drink at least an hour before sleep. Try not to go to bed on an empty stomach.

>>41688046
Have you tried cutting off all liquids two hours before you want to fall asleep? If not give that a try that's probably what is going on with you

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>>41686968
Look up the FILD method of lucid dreaming. It never helped me lucid dream but it certainly helps me fall asleep.

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>>41688136
it likely works for me since i only keep my marijuana sessions on friday, saturday and sunday if that's the case. on a tbreak for a week or 2 more though, looking forward to breaking it.

>tfw thorough, deep sleep for my rest days to maximize "resting" potential
>tfw major league munchies so i can head to a buffet for some heavy bulking
>tfw intense music to further appreciate rest days

i fuckin' love marijuana, bruh.

>>41688040
You don't ingest melatonin, you let it dissolve in your mouth.

Used to have problems falling asleep due to shift work messing with my body clock.

Start taking HGH supplements and Valerium tablets. That stuff is amazing for complete black out heavy sleeps. Also a big run or heavy weights late at night helps.

Avoid caffeinated or heavy sugar food and drink 4hrs before bed.

>>41688075
Hey fuck face, never ONCE has ingested melatonin ever been shown to do anything. You fucking dumbshits fall for the stupidest advertising. Let me guess you also believe chondroitin does something. Fuck you and fuck your GED

>>41687744
how can one read in the dark?

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>>41688378
strong projecting from the uneducated, ignorant retard detected lol.

>mfw this whiny little bitch has his impotent rage flare up because people are calling him out for being a clueless child

you're wrong, squirt. science > your feelings. learn to cope or huff cyanide, faggot bitch.

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>>41688075

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>>41687893
>caveman jeans

>>41688464
I can guarantee you i am more formally educated than you, by a LONG shot. Show me one study dumbshit and I'll admit I'm wrong until then suck it, and get off of GNC's cock

>>41688472
>moron links some random bullshit
>thinks moving the goal posts will fool anybody

nah, 0/10, mouth breather. give it an actual rest. you're just embarrassing yourself now.

not even worth the reaction image at this point.

>>41688485
>retard thinks that his needing special education in middle school is formal education

hahahahahahahahahaha just stop it you obviously obese chump

>>41688489
So you're conceding? Smd faggot come back when you at least have your masters until then. Pick up a book and don't choose a bullshit major if you ever decide to go to college ;)

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>>41688514
>impotent, uneducated gas huffer keeps on bitching

didn't read lol

keep on bitching for me like the little bitch you are so i can keep laughing at your severe lack of intelligence, cletus.

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I can find plenty more studies that say that exogenous melatonin doesn't do shit. Until you fags can find a single study showing that it does anything you can admit that you were wrong. It's not a big deal.

>>41688398
I also use reading method if i know i have to get up early the next day, it works dor me. They have little lights that clip onto books so ou can read in the dark.

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25380732

>>41688521
Ain't got shit to say now do you faggot?

>>41688057
I'm only a 2nd year microbiology student, so I know jack shit, but from what they've told me in my neurophysiology lectures, melatonin is pretty important in maintaining your body's circadian rhythm.

If this false? Or is its role overplayed?

>>41688639
>please respond to me
>being this desperate for his superior's attention

very pathetic and strongly indicative of a lack of testosterone. give it a rest, cletus. if your dad won't give you the attention you missed out on then a stranger on the internet won't, either.

you've refuted nothing, whiny faggot bitch. go away lol.

>>41688697
Honestly it received very little attention in my human/animal physiology lectures so its role may have been discovered so recently that the books/professors haven't caught up yet or it's role has been overstated and hyped by advertising trying to get people to buy the pills. I personally think it's the latter, it does serve a role but I believe it is exaggerated for marketing

>>41688712
Study or gtfo

>>41688712
Sound a little butthurt. It's okay I know how hard it is for stupid people to change what they believe in. Bet you're the type of fuck wit who believes in "free testosterone boosters" too. Grow up and take some biology classes before you open your ignorant little mouth.

>>41688752
>>41688775
>still desperate for a response from me, his superior
>literally BEGGING me to dignify him with a response
>absolutely ENRAGED due to his small stature and impotency at the age of 14

lol ok kid.

>>41688789
Study or gtfo. You're contributing nothing.

>>41688876
here's your reply.

>>41688892
Go on your way until you can debate like a man.

>>41688924
(you)

>>41687009
I've tried this for a few hours since it was first suggested, still awake almost 5am now fml
>>41687279
I'll consider sleep aids, I'll ask my doctor when the doctors open.
>>41687318
I'll ask the doctor.
>>41687810
I prefer to sleep naturally, I just need some help in this case. I always stay out of my room, there is no electronics in here at all apart from my fan. I go to bed at the exact time however when I fall asleep is where the issue is, I can lay in the same position for an hour or so (yes I've timed this) and still have not fallen asleep despite doing work and gym, I should be knackered but I'm not.
>>41687827
Already jerk off before bed, no effect that lasts long.
>>41687893
The only thing I do is drink water before bed but this magnesium could be a problem, I certainly lack certain minerals and judging from my research this could be the case so I'll mention this to my doctor and see what he says. Trust me I've been trying for a long time now, it's gotten worse because I fell ill and that illness forced me to stay up even longer so now I'm fighting to fix all of this that has been made worse. The one thing I haven't done is falling asleep when the sun is still in the sky, I'll give that a go if that'll help.

>>41687893
Just want to say thanks man, really useful advice saved your post

Melatonin saved my life. It works incredibly well for me, placebo or not.

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>>41686968
Try 4-7-8 breathing. Basically you inhale for 4 seconds, hold for 7 seconds, exhale for 8 seconds and repeat. It knocks me straight out, I usually have little memory of how many I did when I wake up. Also I hear that magnesium can help with sleep, I'll try that soon when I get ZMA.

>>41687957
I think this varies from person to person. If you're someone with a high libido you're just gonna get hornier and hornier until you want to fuck and then your whole night is gone. If I jerk off in my bed More times than not it's not going away till I get some tinder chick to come over

>>41688141
It's okay
Yknow what they say about good times, don't you anon?

>>41690356
not op, but I tried that method and it was completely useless.
Only thing that has worked for me was melatonin.

Phenibut

>>41686968
have these problems alot: don't have a clock you can see, it is not what time you go to bed but when you get up so force yourself to wake up early at the same time every day no matter how much sleep you get, also i find reading a book that i enjoy when in bed helps me get to that initial drifting off stage.
I also noticed that although it is often earlier than you want to go to bed there is a point every evening when you start to feel dozy: always catch the doze and go to bed then and apply that logic to reading the book also as it may give you a second chance

>>41686968
download f.lux on all screens but still don't use them close to bed time

>>41687974
thats melanin

>>41690356
I'll give this a go anon, thanks for the suggestion.
>>41691681
My room is bare with a fan and mirror wardrobe, that is it. I have done this as well, sort of have to since I do need to keep to my timetable. The only thing I haven't done here is read a book so I'll give that a go, maybe something on game development since that is what I want to do. I don't get these dozy moments, the only time when I do is when I've already been forced up all night due to being unable to sleep and during the mid day is when I will be dozy so I think in this case it's more to do with tiring out my brain so books should help me in this regard, I'll see if there is any results.

>>41691685
I prefer SunsetScreen because it allows setting the timing whenever you want instead based on the movements of the Sun. I haven't checked in a while but does f.lux still only allow setting the timing based on your chosen location?

>>41693370
You can just change it to whatever you want.

>>41686968
If I wanted a joke I'd ask for your IRM

>>41693685
So it finally has that functionality.

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>>41688378
>Hey fuck face, never ONCE has ingested melatonin ever been shown to do anything.

get a load of THIS retard.

I drink this night time tea and smoke a bit of weed before I go to bed. Seems to be working pretty good.