Are machines really that bad?

You're weak. You're using the machines poorly, with shit form. Even at max weight, those machines are garbage compared to free weights.

>>41643984
alright, what do you suggest?

>>41643984
Truth be told, I don't have trouble lifting the free weights, it's more so balance. I really don't have anyone to spot me.

Post pics homo

>helping the machines win
What would Sarah Connor say?

>>41644025
If you have trouble with balance then you have trouble with lifting free weights since it involves more muscles that keep you balanced which you didn't train because you used machines

>machines are shit

No they're not.

So long as your main lifts are compound movements like squats,deadlifts,pull-ups,ohp etc adding on machines to your routine for additional training volume is extremely helpful for adding size.

Really tired of the dogmatic approach /fit/ had to lifting routines. You guys are either super minimalist or super maximist, from one extreme to the other.

>are machines really that bad?

No, they just aren't as effective. If you're okay making worse gains that won't translate to actual movements nearly as well then have at it.

>>41644101
There is literally nothing you can do on a machine that isn't superseded by a superior free wight dumbbell or barbell exercise. Get fucked faggot.

Machines CAN be useful in certain circumstances (e.g. doing a chest supported row if your lower back is fried) however outside of movements that literally just require a machine to perform they should not be your go to.

Before you use a machine think "Can I do this with freeweights?" and unless you have a specific reason like the one I listed above you should be doing freeweights instead.

Machines are great. Add barbell compound lifts, and various isolations; this is the key to aesthetics

>>41644163
>doesnt understand physics
Rape yourself.

Remember that lean spic who kept posting new CBT threads even though we had multiple of them up? You'll look like that. He has decent muscle definition but looks like a twig because he doesn't do compounds.

>>41643984
Machines that try to emulate a barbell movement i.e. chest press machine - bench press, suck

>>41643971
>Are machines really that bad

No, but free weight exercises and compound exercises in general are better. So why waste your time on inferior exercises?

>5 sets of 20
>5 sets of 10
>strength workout
If you are doing this while training for strength, then you are doing it wrong.

>>41643971
You won't train your support muscles if you only do machines with controlled movements. Which makes it rather hard to actually use your muscles outside of the gym in a functional way. So only doing machines is a bad idea. Only use them to target specific muscles.