How fucked am I?

>>41641523
Are you 4'2"?

>>41641523
just keep going dumbass

>>41641523
this is a blue board

>>41641523

Have you even touched a barbell in your life?

I'm only 20lbs less than you and you can see my veins.

Believe it or not I am 6ft

>>41641523
stop eating until you're like 100lb since apparently you're a fucking dwarf

lift and keep going. You are not 200lbs unless you are like 5 ft.

>>41641523
>200lbs
get a functioning scale. you're at least 350lbs

>>41641548
Fuckin' hell made me spit out my drink

Not beyond repair

>lying about your weight/progress on the internet

I am 6ft and 200lbs I can take a standing picture if need be

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>>41641523
i know your pain brotha

>>41641523
>200lbs

lb isn't "american" for kg you retard
you're 200kg

>>41641589
no really. get a proper scale.

>>41641545
This

>>41641523
We're all fucked
>goodbye Summer dreams

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>>41641646

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6ft 200lbs

>>41641659
looks like 250

>>41641695
I've tried too different scales, actually three. I am 200lbs maybe I just have zero muscle but we'll know soon enough.

I'll be 180 for July 1st

>>41641523
I'm so glad I was a twig when I started lifting and not a whale.

>>41641695
no it doesn't

>>41641523
Are you a virgin, how old are you?

>>41641523
you're ready to bulk up op. bulk back to 230 on GOMAD and report back in a month

>>41641847
Not a virgin, and 30 years old.

I have an arrangement with a few local hookers I see one every two weeks.

The only thing I'd miss when I lose the the fat is having them suck my nipples. Shit feels good

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>>41641871
>>41641523
>tfw this guy isn't a virgin and you are

>>41641915
Bro you know you can just pay some hooker to get the monkey off your back

>>41641935
My company's policy doesn't allow you to pay a prostitute for sex...even in areas where it is legal because of their stance on human trafficking

>>41641971
are you suppose to discuss your sex life with your company ?

>>41641971
Some rules are made to be broken. There are dozens of non trafficked independent sex workers out there.

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>>41641523
>>41641592

>>41641971
Literally every company

>>41641751
I look the same and am 260

>>41642008
>>41641523
>>41641659

Epic fucking lol

>>41642014
>>41641992
>>41641988
Then where do you even go? Backpage?

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>>41642014
>TIL
Cheekie has a job

>>41642075
I go back page, adult work, and vivastreet

>>41641523
My dude

I'm a lot, lot worse than you no way you are over 5ft8 and at 200lb wtf

>>41641554
how are you six feet tall. i am 6"5 and weigh 220 and am nowhere near as fat as you

>>41641523

There is no way in hell you're only 200 lbs.

I didn't even look that bad at 5'9" 218 lbs (my highest).

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>>41641523
>200lbs
My dude, get a new scale and use it on a flat surface

Manlet thread in disguise

>>41642102
>>41642134
>>41642159

I don't know lads but I am 6ft and 200lbs. Its probably due to me having no muscle.

>>41641523
how on earth have you managed this, i'm currently 276 and i look less fat than that

>>41641657
Gross a girl

>>41641657
Post more cheekie

>>41641746
I'm not even a landwhale, and it fucking blows starting when you're fat. I can tell that I'm making progress, but you wouldn't know it by looking at my midsection. Feels fuckinnt bad.

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Proof of height, well closest I could do.

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>>41641915
>tfw this guy has more mobility in his hip flexors than you do

>>41641523
Nice tits

>>41642261
>here's a blurry pic of a tape measure where you can't even see the top

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>>41641695
>>41641659
90kg too 0 muscle aswell

>>41641523
This is the ideal female body. You may not like it but this is what peak fertility looks like.

>>41642293
Height?

>>41641523
What the fuck
I'm 250 and look nowhere near as bad as this
Are you 4'7"?

>>41642314
6ft

>>41642261
OP seems to have recently shaved all of his body hair off

have you been crossdressing OP?

>>41641523
Gross

>>41642322
What weight are you aiming for?

Wtf I am much heavier than you are but I don't look half as bad as that

>>41642326
No I shaved my hair before I started losing weight because I wanted clear pics for before and after

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Jesus I thought I had it bad

>>41642357
You do

>>41642362
I know, I am 280 at 6ft1

>>41642357
Take a standing pic bro

>>41642332
75kg
80kg at least

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>>41642374

>>41642293
solid hair and face gains keep it up

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>>41641659
Nigga I'm 6ft 200lbs

>>41642408
Do you try and hide the excessive gyno or do you just not give a fuck because of your size?

I can't tell how old you are but if you're over 35, I wouldn't bother trying to lose the weight at this stage.

What's your waist measurement around the belly button?

>>41642453

>not over 30
>Will be at 200 sometime next year

>>41642449
dumb tat bro

>>41642261
So your tit is 46" tall? Yeah you're 5'3" max.

I"m 6'0" and my chest is 55" off the ground.

how do you fix gynocomastia?

i am 190lbs and i have to fucking wrap my chest so i dont look like i have tits

>>41642478
Keep your opinions to yourself fag

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>>41642449
aawwww shit you actaully got the tatt. was it you who posted a pic of that gun on an old tattoo thread?

>>41642486
I'm 6ft bro I just don't know how to take the picture because I'm alone
>>41642489
If you're fat lose weight, otherwise surgery is the only option

>>41642490
Not an opinion

>>41642508
>surgery

holy fuck i guess its time for me to kill myself

>>41642490
I'm gonna have to pile on here; it's an extremely bad tat.

>>41641523
Keep goin' fatass.

>>41642520
Depending on where you live it could be free.

Post pics you maybe a faggot who thinks its worse that it actually is

>>41642489

Try to buy Clomid or Tamoxifen online.

>>41642490
I agree with him, must not be an opinion

>>41642524
What's so bad about it exactly?

>>41641657
>roiding for this

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>>41642486
Legs are 41inch if that helps

I guess this is the right thread to ask

Do I have to worry about anything when starting to lift after being totally sedentary for the last 10 years? Even just walking around at this point I feel like I got bad knees, shins, back, just all fucked up.

I'm 24 and not overweight I just feel like I have the joints and bones of an 80 year old

>>41642593
If you're 24 and not overweight. Don't be a faggot life heavy 4 times a week.

>puts one foot on the scale
>gets tired can't take another step
>"yup 200lbs!"

Stop worrying about loose skin and gyno, do what it takes

It doesn't matter if you have loose skin, open the new door to your journey and drop the weight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Mfe_kuToec

>>41642593

You will have the worst dull aching pain of your life for the first two months after you begin to get active - this is what keeps most people from going back to the gym (Hence the NY resolutioner stereotype). I remember after my first leg day I thought my knees were gonna explode and I could barely stand at work.

Fight through it and before you know it you'll be able to lift 3 or 4 times a week with only minor DOMS. Compound lifts (especially squats) help strengthen a lot of joints with repeated exposure, so you'll actually grow more resistant to injury over time provided you use proper form.

>>41641657
hi cheekie

plsrespond

>>41642669
I've lifted before so I'm aware of DOMS I'm really more concerned about throwing my back out when squatting or having my knee pop. I was crouched at work for less than 3 minutes the other day and my left knee was aching for 2 days after. Stuff like that freaks me out.

But I guess the only answer is Just Do It?

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>>41642593
No you'll be fine. Just start a beginner routine and stick to it.

>>41642669
You won't get DOMS if you do keto.

>>41642708
Probably won't happen unless you go extremely heavy.

>>41642586
/fit/ doesn't like any tattoos because they don't like to see happy people with normal lives so they pretend to be better than all the "normies" by having strongly held opinions about what is "degenerate" and what is not

Your tats are fine man

>>41642715
chinups? but im fat!

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>>41641523

>>41642242
measure your waist regularly...

>>41642202
>Lying about ur height on a taiwanese basket weaving forum

>>41642486
are you fucking blind? his tit reaches 50 why are you going diagonally from his tit to 46?

LONDON!

>>41642293
POO

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>>41641569
how_new.ru?

>>41641554
Bullshit

I'm 6'4" / 225ish

I didn't look like that when I was pushing 265.

Granted, I do have a good build, but you gotta be 5'6" max

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i decided to bulk first rather than cut first lol.

250 lbs

maybe i'll cut next fall

>>41644347
>next fall

do it now bitch, there's still 3 months left of summer

1.2k cal/day max and you'll be down quick

>>41641548
laughed audibly

>>41644363
>1.2k cals per day
>FOR A FUCKING ADULT MALE on a cut

Don't give advice here you fucking DYEL

>>41644452
Bitch please

1.2k is more than enough for a big boy that sits on his ass and does nothing like most of you fuckers here.

I worked a 9-5 on it and felt fine, just pace your self eating several lower calorie meals + fruit + whatever

>>41641657
nice gyno fag

>>41644478
>Everyone has the same TDEE
> If i did something retarded you should do it too

Stop embarrassing yourself you skinny fat fuck

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>>41641548
kekked aloud.
>>41644339
Should’ve cut.
>>41644347
Cut now.

>>41641523
JUST

>>41641523
wow I'm not even joking, you could be a fat chick

>>41642860
because tattoos, like beards, are the new fad (aka 'normal') and a lot of people who get them do so because they want show them off, no other reason
seems pretty fuggin lame desu senpai

>>41644695
So everyone with a beard is just a trendy hipster fag growing one to show it off? Flawless logic my friend

>>41641659
I'm 6' and I looked like you when I weighed 310lbs

>>41641523
Goddamn man what a fucking mutant.

>>41642478
They're all dumb.

>>41644895
pretty much dude

>>41641523
Your'e normal weight is probably like 135lb at 15%BF.
You're probably 40%BF.

>>41641548
ahahahaha

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How much more cutting until i start to resemble a human being /fit/?

>>41645154
That's retarded as fuck my guy

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>>41645396
Going for Rollo mode BTW

>>41641523
You gotta be like 5'4". Im 5'10" and at 270 I didnt have that p h y s i q u e

>>41642008
That is so me ;~:

>>41641554
are you fuck, I'm 5'10 200 and look NOTHING like that... did you even lift?

>>41642075
>>41642091
I manage a gym, Personal trainer, warehouse office managing and bounce once a week at a quiet bar

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Scale 1 - 199.25lbs today

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>>41641554
I'm 6'2", 208lbs, just started lifting a few months ago. You've got at least a few cup sizes on me, bro, are you sure you're 6'?

Hold that tape measure up next to you, take a mirror pic. This is not difficult to figure out.

>>41641554
there is no way you are 6ft
i am 5'8" 180lbs and i am around 12-15% bf
you are somewhere around 25-30% bf
if you were 6ft you would be much heavier than 200lbs or even 230lbs

>>41646137

Wow britbongs actually use stone based scales that's hilarious

>>41641523
>>41641554
>200lbs
>200kg
fixed that for ya

>>41646125
how do I stop being autistic so I can get a job

>>41641523
You can make it OP.
We're all gonna make it.

>>41646146
I can't get all my body in the mirror because of the angle, I just have very little muscle.

Post pics if you don't mind for comparison please
>>41646177
Thank you, you too

>>41646159
Work the nights. I'm picky with choosing sales associates, front desk and PT that works during the day but when it's nights when there is less traffic then I don't care much if you're an autist. As long as you're neat and tidy

>>41642586
out of place, doesn't really fit in with/complement the lines of your body (which is great in and of itself n-no homo)
also cant even really tell wtf it is...f1 car?
yeah shitty tat sorry

>>41642730
this is the dumbest shit ive ever read
even for /fit/

>>41641657
serious question.

Did you tits disappear when you started getting /fit/? Or have you always been flat?

I want to lose weight but worried my tits will :/

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>>41642730
holy shit

>>41646300
Depends on body, but best way to save your tiddies is to not use gear and fat burners. If you're not willing to pay the price then don't dooooo it.

>>41641657
pls stop I'm on nofap

>>41641523
Don't listen to the haterz anon, fuck it just keep excising and eating less shit. You're gonna make it

>>41646289
Real niggas will know that's an M2

>>41642449
is that a naga?

>>41641548
Unironically this

If I'm 6 feet and go from 250 down to 170 what are my odds of having really bad loose skin? I don't wanna bother losing the weight if it is gonna make me look like a freak.

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>>41641523
What the fuck are those tits!?!?

>>41641523
How tall are you?

I'm around 200 lbs and look super trim by comparison, but i'm 6'3

Heoght matters when discussing weight.

>>41641554
I'm 6' 1" and looked better than that when I was 260 ffs

>>41642866
sub lateral pulldowns or negatives

>>41646450
Depends on how much of that 250lbs is fat i guess, but you probably shouldn't get any loose skin, because 250 isn't even that much.I'm 6'1 and I've gone from 250 to 185 currently and have no loose skin whatsoever,

>>41646322
Do you ever miss your tits?

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I'm afraid I have gyno.
How does it look guys ?

>>41646811
no way to tell like this, my money is on just being oddly shaped chest fat. cut bodyfat hard as fuck, whatever lumps remain are actual gyno.

>>41646954
Aye.the gyno is confirmed I was just curious if it's obvious.
I hope it's not more obvious once I cut down to around 12%bf

>>41647039
kek, well fooled me then. if it's actual gyno it'll protrude more at lower bf but you can still mitigate a lot by getting massive chesticles, so nobody really cares.

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I'm 6'2 and 203 pounds

>>41641657
hot on a grill, on a guy looks like he's a pos

>>41642357
you do

>>41641659
what the fuck is wrong with you nibba

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>>41641657
>you will never reproduce with cheekie

>>41642449
hows okinawa fag?
lel

if you think you are overweight, and desire a better body then work towards it. don't be afraid, just keep trying. the journey is worth it.

>>41646240
WTF? Are you hiring now? I wanna work for cheekie & live in comfy canada

>>41647400
>>41641659
I'm 5'11 255 right now and I don't look this fat. Have you guys been lifting for a while or nah?

>>41641523
You've gotta be much higher bf% than me, and I'm 6'3 280,34%

>>41648511
Post your pics fatties who gives a shit

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>>41648981
Best I can do right now, at work if the threads up I'll take a shirtless one only shirtless ones are laying down so.

>>41648981
I am >>41648511

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>>41641523
Shit like this is not why I browse /fit/

As someone said not beyond repair. Lose weight and HAVE A PROPER FUCKING DIET. Also save for gyno surgery. That's pretty much it.

>>41641548
I don't get it and I'm upset

>>41642453
what the fuck is wrong with you?

1. That's not gyno he's just fat
2. You can and should get fit at any age retard, and if >>41642408 just does it slowly there won't be much loose skin if any. Hell it'll still look better than currently regardless.

Stop trolling

>>41646392
Real nagas will know that's an M2

>>41642408

Embrace your size and submit your body for sexual services. With tits like that, you're born to bottom bby.
No homo.

>>41649020
c-cute

>>41649345
t-thanks. how does OP look like he does we weigh the same I'm an inch shorter

>>41641657
Cheekie I love you pls post boipucci

>>41649372
>Cheekie
>boipucci
grab a seat, son, I have bad news

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>>41642176

Question for all anons would excessive masturbation partly result in looking like OP? I heard when you masturbate your test levels drop and if you masturbate every 7 days your testosterone will be 145% more.

Having double the amount of test must make a huge difference right?

>>41649370
I don't know anon b-but you look adorable.

no muscles

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>>41641523

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>>41641523
>200lbs
I'm 5'11 and 270 lbs and that is exactly what my body looks like in that very position. You are either a dworf or you need to get a new weight scale.

>>41651763
this filename gets my noggin joggin

>>41651862
Post pics please

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OP here I made some gains from yesterday. Instead of sitting with my legs crossed I laid down. Lol

No but seriously thanks for all your help anons

>>41641523

You got Traci Lords Torpedo Tits, just keep shedding weight and hope they go away.

>>41642586
It's probably some armed forces "boot" who did/is doing his time on Uncle Sam's D, and tastefully marked himself as a real goon by placing his favorite sandbox toy forever on his person. Or just a guy who really loves guns.

Either way I never liked the idea of putting a discernible, patented product on myself, but im some dude so.

>>41641554
Nope. No way. I'm 5'7 prince of manlets and at 200 I looked way better than this, even in that same posture. No way a 6' minilanklet would look this bad. Have you ever touched a barbell?

>>41642075
Don't listen to these faggots can still get hpv herpes with a condom.

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>>41641523
>dem tittes

>>41653169
take better pictures faggot

>>41641554
Bullshit, im 5'11, same weight and nowhere near as fat as you. Switch the scale over from kilos

>>41654793
Same, I'm 6'1 and 250 and i just have like puffy nipples, not even tits.

>>41642449
What's your bf%? How long did it take you to get there, and from where did you "start"?

>>41642008
instant save

>>41641523
I'm nearly 400 lbs and you do not look fucking 200lbs at all. You wouldn't have tits like that if you did weigh that.

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6 foot 200 lbs.

>>41653577
b-but i'm prince of manlets and i'm 6'

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>>41642449
Do you have a harmonica randomly placed on your abdomen. ..kys

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>>41641523
>tfw I look skinnier than you and with smaller breasts at 300

Thanks genetics.

>>41642408
i started at 330 lbs and currently i'm 6f 250lbs, my tits are similar to yours, i had a doctor check me for gyno and turns out it was just fat, but he did tell me that males who store fat around the breasts are more likely to be low test, which is why you can see heavier dudes with almost no tits, just a giant belly.

>tfw can already imagine my saggy tit flaps

I'm just blown away at how much body composition matters.
My knee jerk reaction to OP was that he was lying about his stats.
He appears to be more overweight, than what his stats indicate.
I found the same to be true for other posters here too.
I think this disbelief came from comparing his body to mine, and for some reason, something isn't matching up to my idea of what certain stats should look like.

Looking at this pic from OP, (ignoring the one where he is hunched over to look bad purposefully)
>>41641659
He claims to be 6'0" (182.9 cm) and 200 lbs (90.7 kgs)
Obviously the guy is carrying a lot of fat.
You can see that primarily by the fat deposits around his waist and his chest.
My dude, you may want to cut more. Your man boobs have a solid shadow under them.
(I think if you continue your progress it should greatly reduce in size. I don't think it's gyno, just too much fat.)

But, If we are to compare his body to this poster:
>>41642449
Who claims the same stats of 6'0" (182.9 cm) and 200 lbs (90.7 kgs)
You can tell there is an obvious difference in body composition.
This tattoo'd dude has a much lower level of body fat.
You can make out the outlines of his abdominal muscles and he has an Adonis belt.
I can also tell his muscles seem to be more developed. His trapezius muscles look larger, and his arms (deltiods and biceps especially) seem more developed.
Is this because he has larger muscles, or because he has less fat to cover up his muscles?
Probably both.

Like just look at this guy:
>>41644339
He didn't post his height. But he says he weighs, 250 lbs (113.4 kgs).
Strangely, even though he has a solid 50 lbs (22.7 kgs) on both the tattoo stud and OP, he isn't in the same league as the OP.
Maybe it's me, or maybe it's because he is flexing in the mirror whereas the other pics were relaxed; but he seems to have more muscle.
I guess you could say this guy is looking thick as faurk.

>>41641554
No you're not. I'm 6" and I looked like that when I was at 290.

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>>41641548

>>41656964
>a six inch fat pad glides across the floor past you

>>41641523
why have you ruined your body?

honestly fat people are scum and i look down at you

>>41657051
>says the food addict
You probably eat carbs.

>>41645396
>>41645502
i think ur alawdy there dud

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>>41656957
Continued.

So this guy:
>>41644339
Seems to have a higher muscle mass than OP, and probably the tattoo'd stud too, but he simultaneously has a high level of body fat.
His makeshift loincloth makes him look like a warrior from antiquity.

This guy:
>>41642408
said here >>41656441
That he's 6'0" (182.9 cm) and 250 lbs (113.4 kgs), but was once 330 lbs (149.7 kgs).
I'm not sure if the picture he provided was of him at his heaviest or a current pic.
Either way, if he is 250 lbs (113.4 kgs) in the picture provided; then he looks comparatively worse than the loincloth warrior who is the same weight.
He is carrying much more fat around his waist and his chest (read: man boobs)
(I love my fatties, and I have faith in your continued progress big-nips; but you gotta cut more. Those boobs will go down with more weight loss.)

Is this because he is shorter?
Or is it because he has higher body fat levels?
Or perhaps it's because his muscles are not as developed as the loincloth warrior?

He probably is carrying a higher percentage of body fat, and has smaller muscles.
But then again, what about height?

My assumption is that taller people can carry more fat than a shorter person, and look comparatively similar.

The tallest guy that posted:
>>41647400
Claims he is 6'2" (187.9 cm) and 203 lbs (92.1 kgs).
he is a full 2 inches (5.1 cm) taller than OP, and yet...
I think OP has a better looking body.
This is despite being taller.

However, he has 3 lbs (1.4 kgs) more than OP.
So then I think, what's the relationships between:
Difference in height vs. Ability to store more fat, and look comparatively the same as a shorter person.

So I look to myself.
I'm 6'3" (190.5 cm) and 242.6 lbs (110 kgs).
So I have 42.6 lbs (19.3 kgs) on OP.
and 39.6 lbs (18 kgs) on this guy: >>41647400

Even despite my larger weight difference, I still think I look better than both. (Not trying to be a dick.)

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>>41656957
>>41657164
Continued

But I think I have identified 6 factors that we can track, to normalize all the differences in our appearances.

1. Body position ( relaxed or flexed. Good posture or slouched over, etc.)
2. Camera angle.
3. Lighting.
4. Body fat level (as a percentage of total body weight)
5. Muscle development (measured in size)
6. Height ( referring back to the difference in height vs. comparative ability to store more fat and look similar...I guess you can call this "proportions")
7. Personality (Just kidding. You can't fuck personality.)

How we adjust for these factors in a quantitative way... seems to complex for now.
Just some of my thoughts, take it or leave it.


Oh, also, something people might not be aware in the differences between all these pictures, is point 3: Lighting.
Here is a comparison picture I made of myself at age 23, and age 27.
As you can see, besides my fall from my former physical fitness, lighting can play a huge role in appearance.

I took the bottom picture with high contrasting down-lighting (trying to match the lighting from the pic 4 years earlier).
And even though I am heavier in this picture than now, compared to this one posted here >>41657164
I look much better.

You can see the lighting has a dramatic effect.
Also, It's hard to gauge solely the lighting's effects, because of point 1: Body Position.
I am flexing in the pictures attached to this post, so that obviously makes me look better than this picture >>41657164 where I'm unflexed.

Anyways, that's all I have for you guys.
Keep up the progress, and keep going.
Peace.

>>41657284
Just letting you know I read all that, so you don't feel you typed it all out for nothing.

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>>41657353
I type it out because I feel good doing it.
Expressing myself freely, is my own reward.
And that someone else enjoys it, is just a bonus.
Thank you.

^_^

>>41657388
It was a good read.
I am the tallest guy from the pics and I posted unflexed. In fact I have been lifting for years but I am a skeletor underneath my fat.
No wonder others look better at similar or more weight, they just carry it better.

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>>41641659
HOW!
I am 181cm and 100kg in this pic

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>>41657458
>>No wonder others look better at similar or more weight, they just carry it better.

Notwithstanding points 1-3, in your case I think it boils down to points 4 and 5 ( Body Fat Level and Muscle Development).

First I want to ask you, in terms of self-improvement, what type of world-view is better to have?
Are things outside of your control, or are things under your control?

You can say that other people look better because they carry the weight better. (Putting the cause of your deficits, on external forces).
Or you can look inward and say you aren't doing something right (Putting the cause of your deficits, on yourself).

Of course I don't need to tell you that some things are, of course, outside of your control.
And that you need to have a balance with, practicing acceptance vs. identifying/fixing flaws.

But practice honesty with yourself.
I mentioned that you may have an issue with points 4 and 5; Muscle Development, and Body Fat Levels.
And you mention:
>>In fact I have been lifting for years but I am a skeletor underneath my fat.

Let's make some assumptions. Provide feedback if you think these are wrong assumptions.
A typical program on average has people lifting 3-4 times a week.
Let's go on the low end, say 3 workouts a week.
A typical year has about 52 weeks.

So a person that is consistent, (key word, consistent) will have: 52 weeks * 3 workouts a week = 156 workouts in a year.
So if a person has been consistently working out for a couple of years they will have completed: 2 years * 156 workouts in a year = 312 workouts total.

312 workouts in 2 years, remember this number.

If an outside observer watched and recorded your workouts, how many workouts would they say you completed in the span of the past two years.
I'm not talking about max testing days, or a day where you fuck around in the gym.
I'm talking about following the program to the best of your ability that day.

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>>41641523

>>41657723
>or are things under your control?
I'm too lazy to count calories, I just make sure I eat healthy.

>how many workouts would they say you completed in the span of the past two years.
350 to 400 in the past two years.
Those include yoga.

I just started drinking at a young age (12) and ended my habits at 24 which may have fucked up me in the long term. Not making excuses, just stating as it is.

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>>41657723
Continued.

By looking at you, I have the opinion that you are not consistent in your workouts.
Despite you have been lifting for a couple of years.

I do not doubt that you have lifted weights in that time. But I think when you say that you lifted for a couple of years, it can be misleading.

I can't speak for anyone else, but when someone says they are lifting for however long; I imagine them following a program of some sort.
This may be a fault of my assumption, you are free to decide.

The point is, you need to take a quantitative look, and honestly evaluate yourself. Your honesty will find any flaws, and your force of willpower/discipline will correct those flaws.
Conversely, you have the option to accept your flaws.
Only you can decide, what is worth the effort of your willpower.

Lastly, while on the topic of point 4: Muscle development.
Make sure that you are providing your body with adequate nutrition and rest.
(I will cover nutrition, a bit later)
Ask yourself, if you have been nourishing your body in a way that will help it grow.

I think you should evaluate your consistency, before giving up your control to external forces.

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>>41657848
I'm not perfect either by no means. And in the course of typing this to you, I was inspired to take an open account of my consistency.
(Remember 312 workouts in 2 years, is considered consistent training.)

Looking at my past two years:
June 2015 - June 2017

From June 2015 - December 2015 I believe I didn't workout.
I didn't track calories, or do any exercise.
Not anything that I can remember.

From January 2016 to May 2016 I believe I worked out no more than 60 times.
Started to give a shit.
I was very consistent. Working out 4 times a week, full body with a training buddy.
But, I never tracked calories.

From June 2016 to December 2016 I believe I worked out no more than 24 times.
I peaked in my consistency in June, which culminated into a Maximal Effort video:
https://youtu.be/jclGtuH1468
The later half of the year marked my decline.
I fell off my program by August. I have no excuses.

From January 2017 to March 2017 I believe I worked out no more than 5 times.
These workouts came from my attempt to follow a program like I did the year prior.
Still didn't track calories.
They were done with my old training buddy, and were initiated by his concern of me falling off.

From April 2017 to June 2017 I believe I worked out no more than 10 times.
I started tracking my weight/calorie intake/workouts in April 2017.
And while i started the first two weeks following a program... I fell off the workout program.
However I have not fallen off my caloric restriction.

So in total, I have 99 workouts in the past two years.

Today marks *exactly* two months since I started tracking my weight, and calorie intake.
And I am currently down 20.8 lbs (9.4 kgs) since the start.
I have mentioned to myself several times that i need to incorporate exercise.
Because, I know that in order to achieve my former glory i will need to put in the work.
I made a comment to myself last night while recording my nightly weight loss video that I need to start lifting.
I start Today.

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>>41657758
If you want to change your body, you are going to have to deal with numbers.

Look at your picture. Do you accept that?
I encourage you to count your calories.

>>350 to 400 in the past two years.

Honestly, I find this incredibly hard to believe.
In fact, I don't believe that number at all.
Did you really go through each month in your memory?
Did you refer to any logs that your wrote?

Or did you just make a quick estimate?

>>41657943
Continued.

Strength-wise, I've lost much of my strength from last year.
https://youtu.be/jclGtuH1468

Based on my logs from that time, I was about 285 lbs (129.3 kgs), in that video.
So while my weight has gone down, my strength has as well.

But if I'm being honest, the reason my strength level has went down is not because I have less body mass to leverage against the weights; but really because I have not consistently weight trained since then.

Progress is going well as far as weight is concerned.
Attached is my weight graph.

Start Date: April 2, 2017
Start Weight: 263.4 lbs (119.5 kgs)
Goal Date: November 2, 2017
Goal Weight: 210 (95.3 kgs)
Weight lost so far: 20.8 lbs (9.4 kgs)
Weight left to lose: 32.6 lbs (14.8 kgs)

I consistently, and meticulously track every calorie I put into my body.
If I can't find out its calorie content, I don't eat it.

And I'm serious about the weight lifting routine.
I start TODAY.
Not tomorrow.
Not next Monday.
TODAY, IN 11 HOURS AND 23 MINUTES.

Anyways >>41657758
Good luck, Godspeed, and Count Your Damn Calories.

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>>41658062
Pardon. I attached the wrong file.

Here is the weight graph I mentioned.

And for reference, these are all my posts.
>>41656957
>>41657164
>>41657284
>>41657388
>>41657723
>>41657848
>>41657943
>>41658062

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>>41641554

>>41641592

Dooooooooooooooooo yourrrrrrrrrr tits hang low

>>41658062
>>41657943
>>41657848
>Good luck, Godspeed, and Count Your Damn Calories.

Thank you, you too.

>>41641523
There is no way my man. I'm 5'7" and was 200lbs not too long ago, not even I looked like that.

Random question but I'm cutting at 88kg and my weight in s slowly going down but my stomach feels like it's getting bigger, is that normal/possible or am I imagining things?

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>>41641523

>Dropped from 230 to 200
>Became fertility goddess

You made it man.

>>41641523
mirin bulk

>>41642293
how old are you?

>>41659027
I lol'd

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>>41642293
Exact same progress as me, 110kg to 90kg