>BEEF

is delicious

>>41638850
>what a relief

>>41638897
/thread

WHEN

>>41638918
WILL

>>41638956
THEY

>>41639571
KILL

LEARN

Tbqh he had some sickening striations on those Delts

>>41639573
THE

>>41638914
/thread

>>41638850
>only good pose
>took 10 years to bench lmao2pl8
>10 years to diddly 4pl8
>no legs
>no chest
>a fucking curl bro
>A FUCKING LEAF
>green skin

>>41642183
Post physique

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>>41638850

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>>41642250
Thank you Vegan Internet defense force
>6'4 220
>bulking
Pushing this faggots max for 4×12
Now post yours

>>41642364
shit physique are you sure you're not a vegan?

>>41642426
He doesn't look green enough to be a vegan.

>>41642426
Why do you post yours you little bitch? Say whatever you want i know im better than veganstains lets see how you compare

>>41642364
>6'4
Lol good one

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>>41642267

Holy shit he's actually been lifting that long and looks like that?

>>41642503
>Jelly manlet
Oh by all means, you tell me how tall i am. What are my actual stats then? What weight should i be? What height?

>>41642426
Still waiting on that physique thats so great it will shut me up and force me to delet my post and leave 4chan forever. Im waiting for that pic of you, your 10 pack and GF grabbing your dick, Im waiting for you to leave me btfo. Maybe you're taking a photo rn but all your qt cumsluts keep trying to fuck while you take your picture. Maybe your physique is so good that it cant be captured in photos so your taking this time to hire a sculpter to chisel your amazing, 100/10 body into marble then you'll post a pic of said perfect statue. Jeez you got me on the edge of my seat, fuck im so ready

>>41638956
THIS

>>41642364

>those shitty chest genetics

Holy shit!

>>41641005
JEW

>>41642183
he actually has a fucking strong curl. like im not even joking, dude curls 80 pound dumbbells or some shit for reps. how the fuck is that possible when everything else is garbage?

>>41642618
Because he's a literal curlbro.

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>>41642618
Bro he only curls. His biceps are the only developed thing on him.
>>41642599
>Bashing my chest
>>41642426
This is who you fags are whiteknighting

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You're telling me if I stop eating meat I'll look this good? Wtf i hate meat now

>>41642574
Wow you really are an insecure manlet

>>41642660
wtf, did you guys mess around with those pictures or is he legitmately fucking green?

>>41642690
STILL. WAITING.

>>41642693
No he's actually green. Google search it yourselg

>>41642712
holy fucking kek
jamal brokkoli

>vegans are green and have no gains
>goblins are green too
>vegans confirmed to be the ultimate gains-goblins

>>41642574
lmao chill out I was just fucking with you. I genuinely wouldn't say your physique is proof that people should eat meat though.

>>41642798
Vegans gains is proof that you should eat meat

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>>41642798
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>>41642060

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6 months since switching to vegan diet.

No noticeable problems/drawbacks yet.

>>41642895
why do you want to see my body? I am not a vegan and was just pointing out the fact that you barely look any better than Richard Burgess.

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>>41642985
You're a big guy

>>41642364
about your chest
mine look the same when i flex (but smaller cause i'm dyel), if i lift enough will they ever be rounder/squarer or is it all about insertions?

>>41643040
Wait, his last name burgess? Wtf I'd be a vegan too if my name was a female burger

>>41642681
*vomits*

>>41643013
nice torso bro, how do i get a chest like this?

>>41643107
They'll fill in. You just gotta commit to a bulk and hit your chest from different angles. If you want to develop the swoop at the bottom (gorrilla tits) do decline barbell, if you want the center to develop do dumbell flies with a focus on the full stretch, really feel your chest activate and focus on the tension with slow, full reps. Then do incline, I prefer dumbell on incline but barbell is fine. I do a shoulder wide grip (neutral grip) and focus on clean, slow reps.
Decline, flies and dumbell incline make for a great chest day if you do progressive overload (increasing the weight each set)
Example for chest flies
>set 1 12 reps with 40
>set 2 10 reps with 45
>set 3 8 reps with 50
>set 4 (optional) drop to 25lbs till failure
You might want to do 20 25 30 and burner with 10 if you're dyel, heavy chest flies are not somethimg to ego lift.
I dont have the best chest insertions but I've gotten much better

>>41642574
Worst pasta ever

>>41643013
>smart enough to not eat meat
>not smart enough to check his image ratios before posting
Vegans everyone

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>>41643049
F-For you.

>>41643205
thanks man!
your arms are aesthetic as fuck, keep it up.

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>>41643240
blocks your path

>>41643134
Thanks.

Just been lifting a while desu.
I do at least some form of flat/incline/decline push on chest day. Lately it's been db bench, incline hammer machine, decline flyes.

>>41643305
Goodluck with your goals, you'll make it. You ever have any questions about form or wanna learn new workouts and workout types consult exrx.net

P.S. Avoid wide grip bench and behind the neck press if you want to keep your shoulders from becoming impinged

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>>41638850

>>41643013

This is my goal body.
Really nice, presuming you're natty.

>>41643407
Thanks.

I'm 5'9" @ 152lbs, so this isn't as hard to achieve natty as it is for someone taller/heavier than me.

I've thought about trying the fraud life, but I just don't care enough about aesthetics desu. I just lift so I can eat more food and not be fat.

>>41643395
How does your body become that developed but your traps stay like that

>>41643423
I usually lurk, but this desu wrecking of my poor grammar is nice.

>>41643436
Its the pose, its not flattering for your traps.

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>>41643314
*teleports behind you and proceeds to spam kamui shurikens*

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Cringe warning
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RZU0pfp_tjc

>>41642364
>Chest gap

Its time to give up.

>>41642574
shit bro youre gonna turn me gay with that confidence and test.

Sounds like me when im livid full homo lmfao

>>41638914
when will this stupid bullshit cease?

>>41642364
look like 6'1 tops

>>41642364
fuck all these responses. I have nothing against vegans, but you look great mate keep it up

>>41642503
Are counters really low on the states or something, im 6'0 and counters in Australia are around chest level, the counter behind him is what gives his 6'4 claim credibility to me.

>>41645309
> counters
> chest level

Sounds like you're just a manlet dude sorry

>>41642660

>>bashing my chest

Heey, Richard!

>>41638850
hes still better than 90 percent of the pop

>>41642985
why do you even have that saved

>>41638850

Dude has like 18.5" arms cold, he's more jacked than me and I outbench him by 20kg

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>>41642267
Every time.

>>41642681
Where is his neck?

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He's looking huge lately.

>>41647009
Perhabs he finally started eating meat.

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>>41642660
>>41642681

>>41642267
>Roiding for this
lmao

>>41647119
Not really. Still vegan, just not HCLF like he was in the old pictures in this thread.

>>41647009
I didn't know he was that tall, he seems more attractive now.

>>41638850
why this nigga look green in most of his pics? you are what you eat I guess

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>>41647141

>>41642364
>>41642267
>>41646959

to be fair he does heaps of cardio and is also 6'3", also looks far bigger now

>>41643599
Why the FUCK are there SOOOO MANY pictures like this readily available?

What website do this kids go on where this shit is -only- cool and not pathetic at all?

>>41642798
>I genuinely wouldn't say your physique is proof that people should eat meat though
What the fuck is this twisted logic?

>>41647171

He's not HCLF now?
What's his diet now like?

>>41642798
>I genuinely wouldn't say your physique is proof that people should eat meat though.
Here's some proof then
>http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.1.6291
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is.html?m=1
>https://breakingmuscle.com/fuel/why-all-humans-need-to-eat-meat-for-health
>https://authoritynutrition.com/7-evidence-based-health-reasons-to-eat-meat/
>https://authoritynutrition.com/it-aint-the-fat-people/
>https://authoritynutrition.com/top-8-reasons-not-to-fear-saturated-fats/
>http://caloriesproper.com/red-meat-wont-kill-you-it-will-make-you-stronger/
>http://www.saragottfriedmd.com/does-meat-cause-cancer-revisiting-the-meat-igf-1-and-cancer-connection/
>https://rawfoodsos.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/minger_formal_response2.pdf
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/06/final-china-study-response-html/
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/03/the-china-study-a-formal-analysis-and-response/
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/
>http://www.foodrenegade.com/the-china-study-discredited/
>https://deniseminger.com/the-china-study/
>https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/the-curious-case-of-campbells-rats-does-protein-deficiency-prevent-cancer/
>https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/taking-a-trip-down-memory-lane-fishing-for-our-good-friend-glutathione-in-the-waters-of-the-memory-hole-how-t-colin-campbell-helped-prove-that-protein-protects-us/
>https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/10-things-vegetarians-get-wrong
>https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/vegans-suck-at-science-heres-the-proof

>>41649517
Kinda the opposite now. He eats something like 200g of protein a day and lots of healthy fats. He went from 185 pounds in the pictures posted earlier in this thread to 230 pounds.

>>41643205
you just gave me hope senpai thx

>>41649737
You again?

You guys see this video where he met Rich Piana, Scott Herman, and Furious Pete at the Toronto fitness expo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZU0pfp_tjc

He made up with Rich and Pete and he's becoming good friends with Scott Herman, who wants his help in including more vegan meals in his diet

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>>41643599
holy shit I never noticed his fucking belt
oh my god

>>41643666
kek, piana seems like a cool dude desu

>>41647141
what fucking game is this? I thought it was Demon's at first but I know it isn't

>>41649737

>how to look like a 12 year old

kek "chaos and pain" blog

>>41650246
>>41647141
Nvm it is BB isn't it?

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>>41647181
he towers pretty much everyone in his videos

>>41642681
this is incredibly strange , he looks like an NPC that hasnt finished rendering textures

>MEME

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>>41642750
>After many years of being vegan with bad lifting form

>benching 240 1 rm
Veganism, not even once

>>41650265
DS3

>>41642364
>trying to hide his thin wrists

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Eat a burger, dyelet

>>41650113
Sure, why not
>>41650260
>how to look like a 12 year old
>kek "chaos and pain" blog
You didn't read i take it

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>>41649737
>current year
>owning motherfuckers like this

>>41649737
I'm not even the guy you are replying to, but listing a bunch of pop-sci blogs as 'proof' is laughably weak. Either give a list of peer-reviewed journal articles, or college textbooks at the minimum, or GTFO you fucking downer.

>>41651986
You mean: "I'm not the guy you're replying to but I'm not going to read at all and call your post 'weak'; do my homework on what is basic science, biology and nutrition I could have easily used google or a textbook to find, for me, or I'm going to tell you to GTFO and insult you because I'm triggered."

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>>41649737
Please go spam your unsubstantiated and million times refuted blog articles (that aren't meta analyses) at the /meatonly/ thread. We've all read your crap by now, we all know it's not a study and hence does not constitute an argument
>But the articles cite studies
No they don't, me the few that do either cite inconclusive or poorly designed or simply unrelated studies
Please, take this (You) and go. Please, just leave.

>>41642681
lol even his arms are disgusting

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>>41652175
>Please go spam your unsubstantiated and million times refuted blog articles
Please quit your triggered shitposting as though you have an actual argument, read what i posted; better yet refer to>>41652163 and read a book
>Please, take this (You) and go. Please, just leave.
No, no, please, good gentlesir take this I insist; I hear it's the favored currency where you and your ilk come from
And do please, stay mad.

>>41649951

200g of protein seems to be very difficult to get on a vegan diet without eating a lot of carbs as well, or is he taking a lot of it from supplements?

Is there a video where he talks about his recent diet?

>>41651768

>You didn't read i take it

Why don't you sum up some of the key points for us, using whatever cited references those blogs use? Assuming you read all of those links yourself, you should be able to make the same arguments here for us.

>>41652447
Just go to his channel, he posts at least one video every week or two showing what he ate. Yes, he eats lots of legumes and gets some protein from brown rice isolate as well

>>41652520

Thanks senpai

>>41652507
Why should I do that you can easily read/use Google and when you should have though to look for factual information yourself before posting.
>you should be able to make the same arguments here for us.
I've done more than enough already

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Clarence Kennedy is vegan lol

>>41652581

Because if you're going to spam a big wall of links and tell people to read them, I expect you to have read them yourself. And if you've read them and believe in them enough to post them every time anything tangentally related comes up, I expect you to understand them well enough to be able to personally argue whatever points you're trying to make through them.

>>41652581
>I'm not going to make an educated post, I've done enough. However, I'm going to keep shitposting
Kek ok senpai
From your wall of text:
The first link is a study of the relationship between SHBG and diet.
> In contrast, the vegetarians had a 50% higher level of SHBG than did the omnivores (46 vs. 69 nmol/l) [9]. This suggests that a vegetarian-based protein diet increases SHBG without affecting total testosterone
Your second link does not contain a single study

Do I need to go on? You're clearly trolling. Please leave.

>>41652594

Clarence ate meat his first 10 years of training though and is about as natty as Bostin Lloyd.

>>41642681
How do I make sure that I dont have a neck like this?

>>41652603
All I'm again hearing is more "do the work i should have done, and could easily still do if i weren't so lazy, for me"
>>41652681
>I'm not going to make an educated post
I did, how you feel about it or whether you want to read it or not is not my problem
>However, I'm going to keep shitposting
>This level of projection
Say the anon still attempting to go down this line of argumentation, when he could and should have easily done his own homework
>Do I need to go on?
No, you need to concede
>You're clearly trolling.
>projection again
You clearly don't read
>Please leave.
Stay mad

>>41653384

>All I'm again hearing is more "do the work i should have done, and could easily still do if i weren't so lazy, for me"

How am I the lazy one? You're linkspamming a bunch of barely related articles to argue some vague point for you and refusing to pick out anything in particular to talk about on your own, as if even you couldn't be fucked to read any of it. It's not even like it's a set of reputable websites you're linking to, so if you want anyone to take you seriously and engage you in discussion, you'll have to get personally involved and make your own argument.

>>41642693
It's called "olive skin", and it happens to people within a very specific range of melanin; darker than most east asians, but lighter than injuns and mexicans with plenty of native blood. Very common amongst Mediterranean people, particularly Greeks. It also only happens if you don't tan like whatsoever. I look sorta green too if I totally shun the sun for months on end. Notice his forearms look a more regular brown.

>>41643049
Mmmmm, love me some Ping Pong.

>>41652594
What supplement does he take to get that mature far back hairline?

>>41638850
I'm all for clean healthy diet and I myself am trying to implement way more greens in mine.
But this dude....what a fucking waste of space.
been lifting for 10 years and has little to no gains, shitty physic and is an absolute fuckwit.

>>41642267
>10 years working out
>that chest
No fucking way

>>41643013
shave your nipple hair.
>having that little self awareness
>vegan

>>41654130
>How am I the lazy one?
Because you refuse to read and could have easily looked you constantly try to argue up yourself
>You're linkspamming a bunch of barely related articles to argue some vague point for you and refusing to pick out anything in particular to talk about on your own as if even you couldn't be fucked to read any of it.
See the above and my previous post again, I've already done more than enough, if you don't want to read and do your own work yourself that's not my problem
>It's not even like it's a set of reputable websites you're linking to, so if you want anyone
I don't give a shit how you "feel" about my posts, they don't make it or the research backing it up you could have easily looked up yourself illegitimate.
>so if you want anyone to take you seriously and engage you in discussion, you'll have to get personally involved and make your own argument.
you stopped deserving to be taken seriously the first go around you tried to continue arguing and it only keeps getting worse as you refuse to read, use your brain or google. It's nobody's job to spoonfeed you info again they just gave you, you can easily google and you should have looked up before shitposting

>>41642681
What an awful skin-tone. Don't racemix kids

>>41642267
you've met a terrible fate haven't you

>>41653384
>>41655548
>Hilariously missing the meat and bone of >>41652681's post where he destroys your pathetic ass
I feel bad for your parents who had to deal with your stupidity

>>41647009
SCAWT HOIMEN
BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL BAHBELL

>>41655548

>Because you refuse to read

I think you've refused to read it, you don't even seem to know what they say well enough to summarize the 20+ links you posted as a response. Obviously I'm not going to read through a bunch of corny looking blogs in search of whatever your argument is supposed to be. Why can't you tell us what you mean to say? If you can't do that, why post in the first place?

>>41656281
>This massive level of projection again
>>41656317
I have. And If I have you can. You can also use Google, to look up basic nutritional facts about meat.And again refer to my previous post. Why should I do something you should have, could have, and can still easily do, for you.

>>41657422

>I have

Cool, so then what are you using from these articles as an argument? Let's say I've read all them now too. What do you believe to be particularly compelling that these articles say?

> Why should I do something you should have, could have, and can still easily do, for you.

Because you're the one trying to make a point to us. Why should I have to piece together YOUR argument for you when you can't even be fucked to discuss it here anyway?

>>41650555
Nice trips my man

>>41657422
>Avoiding to respond
Spamming "projecting" over and over again isn't a magic chant that exempts you from criticism
>From your wall of text:
>The first link is a study of the relationship between SHBG and diet.
>> In contrast, the vegetarians had a 50% higher level of SHBG than did the omnivores (46 vs. 69 nmol/l) [9]. This suggests that a vegetarian-based protein diet increases SHBG without affecting total testosterone
>Your second link does not contain a single study
>Do I need to go on?
YOU HAVE BEEN DEFEATED
HAVE
BEEN
DEFEATED

Stop shitposting and go vegan

>>41650383
Well he needs to stop with his vegan foolishness and get bigger. He is wasting the potential of that large sexy frame.

>>41657422
If it's basic, then sum it up in a few sentences. Spamming links is just lazy "I can't think for myself" bullshit.

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>>41650166
>, who wants his help in including more vegan meals in his diet
at the end of the day, these guys only want more views, so Richard's point of view could pump some clicks from vegemites

btw, who /PITBOYS/ here?

>>41657481
>Cool, so then what are you using from these articles as an argument? Let's say I've read all them now too. What do you believe to be particularly compelling that these articles say?
If you read then it couldn't be more obvious, eating meats good for you saturated fat isn't the devil, etc. They're literally facts about eating meat, that (You) could again easily Google and find yourself .
>Why should I have to piece together YOUR argument for you when you can't even be fucked to discuss it here anyway?
Because basic science, biology and nutritional fact you should have learned in middle school aren't fucking rocket science and you could again look this up anytime. There's barely anything to piece together. You and everyone whining ITT are acting like you were just asked to.build a jetliner, when what you.actually have to do is literally as easy as stacking two legos on top of each other,
>>41658114
>YOU HAVE BEEN DEFEATED
>HAVE
>BEEN
>DEFEATED
Whining other people won't do your homework for you.isn't "defeating" anything
>Stop shitposting and go vegan
If I've consistently admitted to saying up.till now I don't buy into.bad science /pseudoscientific bullshit what makes you think I'm going to.start now?
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-best.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as.html
>http://www.lloydianaspects.co.uk/opinion/veggie.html
>>41658166
And see >>41657422 again

Not only should we not care about eating and killing animals be sure it's just evolution and they are now bred for our consumption but it's also WAAAAAY easier to get your fats, nutrients and protein with meat vs veganisn where you literaly gave to make all your food and eat like 7 times a day.
Not really ideal for a mo Ayer who needs 4000k a day

>>41659589
Read all three links, unlike you. The first one is a manchild who doesn't want to eat peas, the last two are a giant clusterfuck of non arguments or strawmen with a little bit of nirvana fallacy and tu quoque sprinkled in.
You lost again. You are so pathetic and weak, like a fish out of water, desperately kicking and flailing about as it's being deprived of oxygen

>>41659589
>>41649737
(((Chaosandpain)))

>>41661654
>Read all three links, unlike you
Then you promptly ignored what you read
>The first one is a manchild who doesn't want to eat peas, the last two are a giant clusterfuck of non arguments or strawmen with a little bit of nirvana fallacy and tu quoque sprinkled in.
Yes because your feelings about my post and the memes you'd rather believe again trump facts
>You lost again. You are so pathetic and weak, like a fish out of water, desperately kicking and flailing about as it's being deprived of oxygen
>Even more projection
I'm not the one so assblasted at facts that I'm.desperately trying to.grasp at any excuse I can.to defend memes about meat, a diet rooted in pseudoscientific bullshit and bad science. You haven't won shit and still haven't proven what I posted wrong

>>41661765
(((Not reading)))

>>41661654
>fish
>kicking
wat
fish don't have legs. You need dha

>>41661935
There is literally not a single "fact" in the links you posted. I read them head to toe. I didn't just defeat you, you didn't even show up to fight.
Do you know what a strawman is? Do you know what tu quoque means?
>Memes
WRONG
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You autist, the WORLD HEALTH organisation and the American DIETETICS association are on the vegan side. The (((chaosandpain))) author is a NUTRITIONIST
Nutritionist = diet con artist < dog shit < registered dietitian < an entire dietetic association < the world health organisation
>still haven't proven what I posted wrong
Wrong, I did. Learn to read.

>>41662021
>There is literally not a single "fact" in the links you posted.
And you literally didn't read
>I didn't just defeat you, you didn't even show up to fight.
>Do you know what a strawman is? Do you know what tu quoque means?
I know you haven't won a damn thing like you keep shitposting you have
>You autist, the WORLD HEALTH organisation and the American DIETETICS association are on the vegan side.
They're nowhere near infallibl and they;re studies are full of holes. They haven;
't concretely proven meats bad for yopu either, the WHO's studies especially. Just because they bopth "Health" and "Diet" in their name doesn't they're word should be treated as Gospel, a, going by the work they've done they have no right to claim they're authorities on the subject of meat being bad or to say that meats unhealthy as though it's a fact. Just because they'd rather fall for memes too and you want
to jerk that off like it proves something doesn't mean people with a brain have to.
>http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/meat-and-cancer/
>http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/meat-cancer-bacon-who-report-mens-fitness-health
>Nutritionist = diet con artist < dog shit < registered dietitian < an entire dietetic association < the world health organisation
Yeah because again, how you feel trumps establishted and reputable fact
>Wrong, I did.
I just shown you again that you didn't Still desperatley trying to posture like have an actual argument or won.
>Learn to read.
I've still read and done my research, just fine.

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thats what he currently looks like

>>41650265
no its dark souls 3 you retard