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using steroids to become fat fucks general

read all of http://reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki before asking your absolutely retarded questions. no exceptions.

ABSOLUTELY NO SOURCE TALK

previously on beta gf shit general: >>41616985
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>>41627090

Ordered my adex and nolva, and another vial of test. Should be getting here in a few days, then I can FUCKING FINALLY actually start my first cycle.

I thought I remember reading somewhere that having higher test helps you sleep better. Is this true or did someone bullshit me? I haven't had a good night sleep in years and was just curious.

>inb4 a mean anon makes fun of ole Poor Cunt

plz be nice i am very sensitive
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>>41627139
do u lift
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>>41627139
Test has nothing to do with your sleep retard. Just get up early, cut out stims, put away the computer/phone, take some melatonin and go to sleep at a decent hour. It's simple.
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>>41627163
melatonin is a meme

just use antihistamines
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Red pill me on EQ, does it build mass?
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>>41627154
Yes but being unable to sleep severely limits gains

>>41627163
Yeah that's what I thought. I follow all that advice, the problem is I have a fucked up nose and sleep apnea. Never tried melatonin tho, so maybe I'll give it a shot.

>>41627193
It's short for equalizer, you change the eq settings to make the music sound different.
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>>41627178
>just use antihistamines
friendly reminder that benadryl turned glands into (even more of) a drooling retard
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>>41627178
>just use antihistamines
yeeeeah that's a bad idea

something something early onset alzheimer's
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>>41627242
dude if you have sleep apnea, a cpap will CHANGE YOUR LIFE. much more than a cycle of test will.
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>>41627284
taking a benadryl before sleep isn't the same as trying to get fucked up on it because your life sucks ass
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>>41627242
Ok sleep apnea is a different ball game, not sure how much melatonin will help if you're suffocating in your sleep.

Get medical help lad
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>>41627292
I've considered getting one, but they're a little pricey. Nothing that saving for a bit couldn't cover, but still. Also my dad has a CPAP, and he's said it works great. Only difference is that he's 50 and not actively looking for a gf, while I am. Still, if I have to choose between getting laid and sleeping, I'll choose sleep.

>>41627352
I'm heading in to the doctor's office tomorrow to get this shit under wraps. I'm hoping getting my nose shit fixed up will help with it, but if push comes to shove I'll try to get ahold of a CPAP.
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>>41627399
I know a lot of married guys with cpap machines

but I know that feel. I just snore a whole fucking lot (no sleep apnea) and it makes sleeping with girls a problem because they always get shit sleep
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>>41627422
>letting them go to sleep in the first place
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>>41627399
How fat are you
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>>41627422
>Letting them sleep
>Not kicking them the fuck out once you fug them

But really, the snoring thing doesn't bug me as much as feeling like death every single morning. Breathing through your mouth for 8 hours straight leads to morning breathe from hell.

>>41627450
Only fat part of me is the fat stacks of cash I bring home

Just kidding I'm poor ;-;
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I think my trenbologna is starting to mess up my digestive system. I'm shitting like 4 times a day, a lot of fucking gas and diarrhea.
250 test e 800 tren e/week. Anything I can take/do to counter this?
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>>41627696
eat more fiber
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At least the scalp oil meme kit made me not get a static shock from touching literally every door handle
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>>41627696
psyllium husk, moar fiber, check diet for unrelated causes

btw it will get worse for a bit if you add the husk and more fiber, but simmer down over time.
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>>41627762
Dunno if this is a coincidence or not, but my shits got like this ever since I started eating oats and cereal for my pre-work out meal. Before that my shits were really sticky, like I pooped claydoo.
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>>41627773
How much fiber we talking here? I eat 100g of oats/day. That's my only fiber source, the rest of my meals are only protein based
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>>41627856
I try to aim for 30-40gg of my carbs to be insoluble fiber and whatever arbitrary amount of soluble ones I get with the rest of my carb macros. no idea if that actually holds against any recommendations, I found that's what does my digestion best and I stuck with it.
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>>41627912
>30-40gg
gg indeed. meant grams obviously
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Planning on starting a 500 mg test e a week cycle over the summer. I'm only 19 but have Clomid and nolvadex for PCT and have asin as an AI while on cycle. I hear a lot of people advise against it on Reddit. Is it really that unsafe?
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Yo how much am I supposed to be tipping these Czech qt3.14s? I saw 10-15% online is generous but tipping like 50czk on a 500czk tab is literally a 2usd tip and I kinda feel bad
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>>41627975
Advise against which part? bc most people I've seen frown on people younger than 21 hopping on a cycle, since you'e still got room to grow. But whatever, idgaf what you do as long as you realize the consequences.

Also I'm starting on that same cycle with adex instead. Can I call you my cycle bro or would that be gay
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>>41628001
I always gave like 25-30% if they were cute. Didn't really tear a hole in my budget and made their whole night more often than not.
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Doing my third cycle with tren tbol and test. First day and I already feel the shit going through me. Missed this feeling.

>tfw supplier accidentally sends 5x100 tab packets of proviron without me ordering it.
Idk what to even do with it
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>>41627288
I use 18 antihistamine pills a day.

I have better memory than you.
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>>41628033
Well shit now I feel bad. Tbh most of them are pretty qt but I'm not hanging around the old city right now.

Their English is sketchy though.
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>>41628013
Not really gay I wouldn't think. I'm probably just going to wait until 21 or 22 to start my first cycle. I will have another 3 or 4 years for natural growth and gains, where roids could affect me in the best years of my life. Steroids are definitely something I'm interested in but not really willing to take the risk that comes with them at this age. I would love to start injecting the 3 bottles of test that I have in my closet right now, but I'm not sure what the long term consequences of that short term thinking might be. Good luck on your cycle :)
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>>41628101
well I was cunted at by the local guys for flaunting my """""""riches""""""" in front of the girls so ymmv, kek
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>>41628077
>I have better memory than you.
ok pal
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>>41628126
Injecting yourself now would, at the very least, close your growth plates, meaning you'd stop growing as much. I'm sure it's not too healthy for your organs to start so early, so yeah I'd wait. You're smart enough to realize starting early might be a bad idea though, so you're smart enough to spend the next three or four years reading up on this shit so you'll be ready when the time comes.

And hey, at least you're working out. Most of my friends didn't workout until they turned 25, So good on you dude, and good luck with your gains.
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>>41628126
they're gonna be expired in 3 years

time to start pinning
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>>41628270
It cost me little over 100 dollars from a reputable vendor with gallons of blood work to his name. 4 years from now, when I graduate from university with a degree in petroleum engineering, I'm sure I will be able to scrape together 150 for test, AI, PCT, and pins
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>>41628321
>when I graduate with a degree, I'm sure I will be able to scrape together 150

Yeah that's what I thought too ;-;
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on the tail end of a blast (gonna be cruising after, not pcting) and I have epi, var, sdrol, and dbol on hand. only ever tried dbol

what should I try now?
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>>41628396
Petroleum engineering. Going for ROTC for Air Force too so will probably just ride that train for 20 years.
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>>41628456
If the Var is legit Var, go with var, dose it up to 80mg.

I feel and look great on Var.
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How doe's NPP compare to deca for stopping the bloat. I've heard the shorter ester isn't as bad.
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>>41627163

>cut out stims
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>>41628001
>>41628033
in europe especialy eastern europe its not realy common to give tips. thats some american invention cause you dont pay your waiters shit.

10% is plenty mostly we just round up to an even number. remember they get like 500per month so 1-2€ is actually a good amount if you onlh need 300 cost of living
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How does training philosophy change on steroids?

I've always been a guy who emphasizes time under tension, which has gotten me far.
I usually do 3 sets and then stop, even if I feel like I could keep going.
On steroids will you see better growth if you do 5 sets of each exercise? Or should I keep training like I always have?
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>>41628796
kek we had tabs of like 10k czechgold anyway so giving a huge tip was just an additional way of saying I'm rich bitch suck my dick. I mostly agree that for smaller sums, less might be advisable.
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>>41628832
volume is always better on roids.
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>>41628832
Continue doing what works for you right now.

You'll probably go up in weight quickly, but 3 sets is fine.
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>>41628835
if you got it, give it.
got any of them qt to fuck?
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>>41628832
do what has worked so far. after a while on you probably start doing more anyway
>tfw 3h gym session cause it felt right
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>>41628888
mirin digits

yeah a few, four on my own and one I shared with a buddy (not gonna do that again, he's into some questionable stuff, no homo though). funnily enough, none of those were qts who got a massive tip. well, except the one in my pants :^)
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>>41628888
I bet that bitch is smelly
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>>41628918
Fuck nothing better then adding on more and more excerices and sets in the same session just to keep that amazing pump going.
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>>41628957
d e g e n e r a t e
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>>41627139
you best be cycling for a minimum of 16 weeks or else im gonna go pythagoras on your ass
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>>41627139
I feel sleepy as fuck on 1g of test but my energy levels are trough the roof when physical activties start.
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>>41629127
Why 16 specifically tho?

Also what does that mean

>>41629147
Fair enough. Just wanted that debunked before I started getting my hopes up.
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>>41629595
>>41629127
Honest might as well extend it to 20 weeks.
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>>41629595
i've researched it a lot and you just get the most bang for your buck @ 20 weeks.

like 20 weeks is not gonna change your PCT at all and you should have enough AI anyway on a 500mg blast.
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>>41628041
Take 20 tabs per day obviously
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>>41629595
15.9 weeks = no gains, 16 = gains
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>be in Nippon
>Slutty school girl into me
Wut do?
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>>41630215
xd
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>>41630226
if you need to ask...
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>>41630226
What are you gay?
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>>41629684
Tfw blood tests for TRT every 3 months so can only blast 10 weeks
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Im looking to hop on gear here soon , any sites that could give me info on the different kinds/ info on each individial one?
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>>41630516
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>>41630516
Every single one of these threads starts with a link that you should read.

If you're not feeling it, steroid.com has all the info on each compound that you could ever want.
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>>41630516
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!
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>>41630679
lolis are BUILT for sex
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>>41631224
not yet
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What should I name my ripped fistfighting WoW character? Trenbolone is taken.
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>>41631755
dying game man get off the bus, down to like 2mil subs world wide
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>>41631766
I've played for over 10 years if I quit I have to admit I wasted my life FUCK OFF
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>>41631755
trennis the menace

or pic related, the biggest alpha male to ever walk the earth
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>>41631755
>>41631779
all blizzard games post 90s are absolute shit you should be ashamed of yourself
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>>41631779
wrong way of looking at it

time enjoyed is not time wasted
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>>41631841
the mentality of every drug addict ever

trip on kahuna
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>>41628832

Volume, volume, volume. Gear makes it to where you can just keep on lifting, so why not do it and reap the gains?
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>>41631862
there is a such thing as too much volume

i bet you think 10x10 gvt is actually a decent routine
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>>41631882

I do my own high-volume routine that works for me. In the past 2 weeks of this Tren bulk, my Withings scale shows 4.4 lbs of lean mass gain and 0.2% BF increase. I think I'll stick to what I'm doing.
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6th week of cycle and gotten what appears to be my second abscess.

First one kind of flared up, died down and is still firm but very small (maybe .5cm across)

I mistook this one for a pimple because it's on the extreme outer quadrant of glute and I don't remember pinning there, so I popped it and now it's starting to puff up (normal pimple sized head, redness underneath maybe 0.5" across.)

Could it be allergic reaction to the gear? What's the go, I'm padantic with sterile injection.
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>>41631917
you got any pics lil guy?
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>run out of breath having sex
>can't cum because can't thrust anymore
I REALLY LOVE THIS TREN MEME
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Anyone else get like a cold chill that runs down their leg when pinning tren?
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>>41631939
should we tell him
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>>41631920
It's just cystic acne, ignore them, they'll come and go
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>>41631933

I don't post pics of myself on anything AAS-related, but even if I did, I have nothing to prove to you, bud. Find someone else to make your passive-aggressive comments to. All I did was say that high-volume works well. You've been confrontational from the get-go.
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>>41632033
awwwww wittle anon afwaid of getting doxxed?

its ok i make excuses too sometimes
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>>41632033
cool jerrbears
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>>41632079

All good, bro. I'ma let you keep thinking up these awesome little jabs while I continue to give zero fucks. I look forward to your next reply! :)
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>>41632079
Don't forget to call him a chicken and then start going "BOCK BOCK BWAAAAK CHICKEN BOY"

That'll each 'im.
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>>41632114

Haha, this is a perfect example of what I mean when I say that Tren sides are overblown. If Tren really turned you into this crazy rage monster, dumb shit like this should be pissing me off, right? Instead, I'm just kinda chuckling and wondering what he'll try next!
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>>41632154
Maybe your tren is bunk then

But really, These threads give me hope that maybe the stereotype of everyone who uses this stuff isn't some roid rage tard that blows up every little thing.

Besides, his b8 wasn't even good, just retarded. And there's only room for one retard in these threads, and that's me.
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>>41631936
This happens to me every time and not even on tren
>tfw shit cardio
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>>41632186
I think natties are the angry ones. It's because they can't make gains.
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>>41632289
Hitler was natty and weak, and he was always like super pissed, so you're probably right.
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>>41632186

Haha, no bunk tren here! ECLIA E2 is up around 200 and LC/MS-MS E2 is in range (I'm a bloodwork fanatic).

I think a lot of times people just blame gear (especially Tren) for their own asshole-ish tendencies. Anyway, you seem pretty cool, man. Keep fighting the good fight!
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>>41632306
Nah I'm sure your gear is fine, I was just yanking your chain. I think the roid rage stereotype comes from the fact that most people who tend to do steroids already have aggressive, asshole-ish tendencies. So it's not really the roids fault, it's just an excuse used by already-assholes. Just my two cents.

>Anyway, you seem pretty cool, man. Keep fighting the good fight!
I think this is the first time anyone has ever called me cool on this board. Th-thanks anon, you're pretty cool too.
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>>41632302
false he wasn't natty he was on meth
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>>41632352

Yeah, we're definitely on the same page there! I'm a pretty mellow person. Now that I'm on Tren, I'm just a bigger, stronger mellow person lol.

I don't really know why so many people on these boards find it hard to be nice... I guess I'm just a friendly guy.

Anyway, it's time for bed, which means it's time for me to soak my sheets with sweat -- the only real Tren side I get. Have a good night, anon!
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is prolactin on tren a meme
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>>41632352
only done test, but stayed as mellow as normal
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>>41632477
You'll get prolactin no doubt.
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>>41632496
are you lactating

im only planning on running 50 mg ed
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>>41632439
Goodnight friendly anon, happy /fraud/ing!
>>41632485

Probably because you aren't an ass naturally, therefore you wouldn't be effected by "roid rage". Then again, idk if there is anything that would make you an asshole. Best I can think is hearing that Clomid makes some people emotional and bitchy.
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>>41632512
Nope. Not yet anyway. I just take 6.25mg asin E3D. Estro control I think is more important than your actual prolactin control.
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>>41632477

Depends on the person, and whether you have your E2 in check (high E2 can allow for higher Prolactin). Running 500+ mg/wk and 0.25mg Caber E3D had my Prolactin below range, even with my E2 a little high as I was dialing in my AI for the Test I'm on. I dropped the Caber because it looks like I don't need it.
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>>41632544
Well if I'm only on TRT level test my e2 will be fine
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>>41632559
Probably. But you never know. Your body might just go ape shit, unlikely but possible.
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>>41627139
As someone who took rx testosterone injections for a little over 3 years, I can tell you it will give you the weirdest fucking dreams/nightmares ever.

I can only assume abuse levels will make them worse.
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I went to a discord and everybody just told me to kill myself and made fun of my cycle they didn't even post pics they're a bunch of fuckin Reddit faggots
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>>41632685
What makes you think we're any different?
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>>41632685
I'll bite anon: what is your cycle? Is it your first cycle?
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>>41632719
He finally posted his pics after shit talking me for 30 minutes this is seriously what Reddit /r/steroids looks like AHAHHAHAHAHAH
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>>41632748
atleast he's trying to improve
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>>41632748
Some weird proportions.
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>>41632748
Can't wait until I can afford lasik and become a chad
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>>41632899
>tfw look good in glasses and had grills tell me that when I try on other peoples
>tfw 20/20 vision

I've been considered just buying frames but it would make me feel like the biggest numale.
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>>41632920
Girls like me more in glasses but they make me look like a hipster, and I think they make me look weaker. Guess it's true women prefer the pretty more feminine guys over masculine dudes.

At least young ones.
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>>41632934
Think it's more of a fetish for some girls. It indicates intelligence and refinement.
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>>41632956
Yeah which I'm tired of being, I want to leave humanity behind. Being reserved and refined never did me any favors.
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>>41632956
>>41632934
It shows that you wont cheat on them because you're a nu male
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Why do normies get so butt hurt?

>lift at uni gym
> talking to a new girl at school
>" I asked my friends about you. They said you're the guy who wears tank tops to show off his body & doesn't talk to anyone because he's stuck up ....My friend Raul said that."

I generally try to be friendly but keep to myself because I have a hard time speaking to people.

Time to up the tren?
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>>41633037
Tell her that her friend Raul is a little cock sucking faggot who's jealous of your gains and you're a nice person but people just assume the worse.
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>>41633037
Sounds like the type of person to jump to conclusions when judging somebody, so I wouldn't bother with them. Besides, of you leave humanity behind, you leave behind caring about what people think of you.

Just do your thing and let those people be forever dyel faggots
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>>41632899
Glasses are a great way to disarm people who would otherwise be intimidated by large muscles. It's a softening factor that can humanize you. You can use this to your advantage.
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Mandatory post

>tfwnogf
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>>41633324
uh rude filename?
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>>41633037
>Time to up the tren?
y e s
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If NPP only aromatizes at 20% the rate testosterone does that mean 700 NPP is the same as 140 test right? So I shouldn't even need an AI?
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>>41633037
Raul sounds like a low test Mexican who is just trying to slander you , get cool with said female ... the dude is just mad jelly I swear .
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>>41633354
>If NPP only aromatizes at 20% the rate testosterone
source?

als, nandrolone can give progesterone sides.
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>>41633333
uh kill yourself?
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>>41633378
>https://www.steroid.com/Nandrolone-Phenylpropionate.php
>Nandrolone Phenylpropionate is also significantly less estrogenic than testosterone. Both Nandrolone and testosterone aromatize, but Nandrolone only does so at approximately 20% the rate of testosterone.

I read that controlling estrogen means progesterone is also controlled.
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>>41633409
True but there's some talk that nandrolone upregulates estrogen receptor affinity. Not necessarily making circulating estrogen more potent, but definitely much more efficient. AI use should probably be about the same with the introduction of nandrolone. E2 sides remain about the same when I use npp.
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>>41633409
>I read that controlling estrogen means progesterone is also controlled.

kinda yeah, like you wont have progesterone issues if your estro isn't high
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>>41632748
roids dont fix a shit frame. who knew
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>>41633407
>>41633618
go away meanposter
this is a bully free zone
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>>41633700
he's just mad his ex is taking BBC right now while he faps to BLACKED
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>>41633700
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>>41633706
hes probably pretending to be the white girl too
sick little faggot

>>41633718
you have shit taste btw
no offense
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>>41633753
I'm a sucker for pretty art styles.
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>>41632685
you should kill yourself.
The dude you posted is natty. >>41632748
You're not natty and you don't look any different from an untrained average male.
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>>41633761
so just shitty digital art then
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>>41633773
Yes.
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>>41633771
FUNNY cuz he was shit talking

Have a (you)
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>>41633096
>>41633037
i once had this crazy bulgarian girl fall for me cause i fitted her prefered looks. tall slim muscles shaved head beared.
sadly she thought i am this hard mean asshole chad mafia gangster whatever typ.
little did she know i am the sweetest person ever and was upset that i didnt treat her like shit like everyone before me.

at least i got my first forced deepthroat facefuck out of her. that made her stay a few more days but eventually i was too "soft" and "nice"

bitches are stupid dont even deserve to be threated nice
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What cycle should I run to achieve Draenei mode?
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>>41633605
>>41633618
>>41633700
>>41633718
you guys are roided up meatheads and still post fucking anime? what's wrong with you?
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>>41634121
Got a problem with anime? We are normal people yo.
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Tren or NPP for an 8 week cycle for pure size?
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>>41634121
got a problem buddy?
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>>41634278
npp imo
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>>41634278
npp
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Gym sales people are so full of shit. Tried to make me pay a sign up fee and $45 a month and I said I'd keep looking and suddenly the fee is waived and they can do $30 a month if I pay for 3 months today. Shady fucks.
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>>41634554
They've got to eat too.
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>>41634554
ikr, jews
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>>41634049
obviously tren its made for space animals
>>41634554
is your gym at an 3rd world basar?
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Just eating dinner. Hearts going to explode. Whenever I text my ex it sits at an easy 105 minimum.
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aye brahs

anyone knows how / if t3 interacts with rec druggas?
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I get all warm and fuzzy even when just talking about nothing with exgf. I want to fucking die.

>>41634897
We need you chem
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Anybode had success with synthol in dick?
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>>41635153
Your dick isn't a muscle.
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>>41635154
so how make it bigger like a nigger i want
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>>41635159
no
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Finally figured out whats wrong with my 2 stroke shitter scoot

>find this weird screw/line thingy which you can adjust
>the second i touch it completely falls out of the thread
>turns out its the oil adjustment cable for the amount of oil/fuel you want
>i've been running on 100% oil the whole time
>the blue smoke out of the exhaust wasn't enough to tell me this
>the sudden drop in performance from 60km/h to 35km/h didn't tell me this
>the 1.5l oil consumption per 3 weeks didn't tell me this
>the completely soot filled exhaust didn't tell me this

sometimes i think i have average intelligence but things like these tell me i have full blown retardism.
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>>41635197
>>i've been running on 100% oil the whole time
Hahahahaha what the fuck are you doing nigger?
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>>41635213
hey could have been worse, if it was the other way around i'd have a nice hole in the cylinder.
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>>41632302
He was actually on trt
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Should i be proud of being in the middle of this photo or should i be disgrace to my family
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>>41635341
That's just weird desu.
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So far this week has been a week of PRs
Loving however my new shit is dosed, it's got to be more than the previous source, cuz I'm doing a shitload better on 500mg than previously.

90Kg/ 198Pound OHP
130Kg/ 264Pound Bench
Gonna see what I can squat/press tomorrow

Hit 90Kg/ 198Pounds body weight. More than I've ever weighed.

Arms are thick, chest is starting to slowly catch up, back is looking like a mountain range.
Fucking feels great my dudes, I have reached that point where
I feel like a big guy even without a pump.

Anyway /fraud/ see ya next time I decide you need to see my blogging
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>>41634287
>>41634288
Not that guy, but what dose would you recommend?
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>>41632541
>>41632306
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>>41634049
hyperextensions on the leg press x F
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>>41635730
depends man

100mg e2d minimum prolly
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>>41635159

did someone say nigger?
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Lads, I want to go on my first test cycle, but have some bellyfat. Is taking roids for the purpose of cutting while maintaining gains acceptable? Or should I just cut, become ultra-dyel then go on a cycle?
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>>41634897

It'll make you run slightly hotter

But a few Easters ago I was on 700mg Tren and 500mg DNP

Decided to throw a hotel drug party for my friends 18th birthday, he had never done MDMA before

I was doing fishscale coke mailed straight from South America that fatlifts sent me for a few hours until it ran out, then I started snorting amphetamine.

showed up at the hotel twacked out of my mind

proceeded to eat half a gram of MDMA and more speed throughout the night

my heartrate was like 180BPM and I was so sweaty I left a person shaped outline in the sheets

So if that didn't kill me I think you'll be good.

pic related btw fucking great night
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>>41636361
awesome lol.
kinda didnt exect you to show ITT
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>>41636361

I miss Nat.

Don't have a gangbang on drugs with your coworkers and then let your fiance find out about it bros
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>>41636359
test doesn't burn fat
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>>41636432

Yes it does
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>>41636361
that pic warms my cold heart

>>41636399
shit I need new plans for the weekend then
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>>41636432
>>41636435

Doesn't matter if it burns fat or not, I'm asking if it's a good idea to cut while on it since it preserves muscle or to cut without it, become a skeleton and then go on a cycle.
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>>41636399
This post makes me sad.
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>>41636361

how... how are you alive?
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>>41636515
voodoo magic. chem is unkillable, and not for lack of trying
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>>41636522
every time I think I've heard the stupidest shit he's survived, he typically shows up himself and one up-s.. well, himself.
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>>41636515

dude I dunno

I've ran 5g of gear with GH and Slin before

OD'ed on Chinese research chems laced with fentanyl, woke up in the hospital with rhabdomyolysis and near total organ failure, doctor told me 60% chance I was gonna die. Lost all of my muscle, could hardly walk and couldn't raise my arms because I was so weak.

Freaked out on psychedelics and jumped or was thrown off a second story balcony and landed neck first on the cement, woke up in the hospital with a jaw fractured in three places and two broken ribs. They said if I had landed a few degrees more tilted I would've snapped my neck

plus many other crazy drug escapades
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>>41636552
Reading this gives me anxiety.
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>>41636552
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>>41636361
Cant tell if ugly girl or nerdy twink on the left
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>>41636566
he left out the part where he almost killed a cop in a psychosis/ drug stupor.
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>>41636548

Being on probation for the next few years and having a job (Well, until like a week ago) calmed my shit down a fair bit, plus I'm too scared to trip again.

Most recent antics were accidentally getting myself physically addicted to benzos by eating Adderall all day to code and taking Etizolam to sleep at night.

Tried to quit, freaked out and had a massive panic attack, went to ER, been on a Valium taper for over a month trying to get off.

Also, shot up a quarter gram of meth the other day.

That's about it.
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>>41636580

Nerdy twink whose birthday it was
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>>41636566
>>41636570
you're either new, or were pretty aloof to the national treasure that chem truly is. someone pls get hollywood on this shit eventually
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>>41636595
Why do you rely on drugs so much? It's okay to be human every now and then y'know.
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>>41636595
You are just going to end up dead or in prison if you keep going.
Suggest you eat the end of shotgun. You know you don't have the mental fortitude for drugs and just end up psychotic, why put other's lives in danger?
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>>41636552
>chinese research chems

dude what

why
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>>41636595
> calmed my shit down a fair bit
>Also, shot up a quarter gram of meth the other day.

I have some bad news for you.
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>>41636619

I dunno desu, it's mostly stims I'm addicted to. Amphetamine makes me feel perfect, been hooked on it since the first time I took Adderall at 14.

Probably a combination of lack of hobbies, unhappy with myself, no social life, drugs are the only way I know how to have fun, and I've been doing them so long my brains wired up differently.

I'm pretty functional with the stim stuff, I just can't ever go anywhere near anything psychedelic again.

>>41636622

Probably, and I have a history of suicide attempts so the latter isn't a complete impossibility.

Though if I kill myself it'll be a purposeful opiate OD, just eat a whole bag of heroin or something since i have no tolerance and go sit down nice and peaceful
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>>41636657
some analogs are really good and even rival what they try to emulate.
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as a fatty, should I do a cocaine cut before roiding, or keep cutting natty?
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>>41636361
chem u are my hero
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>>41636675
I think you'd really unironically benefit from a Church group. Give it some thought.
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>>41636675
Nah don't kill yourself. I redact my previous post seeing you are staying away from psychs.
All though terrible for your brain long term even with meth(protip never redose) if you sleep and force yourself to eat you will probably be ok.
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>>41636667

You must be new here :>

That's babby shit, had a three day bender with two friends a while ago where we did Amphetamine, 6-APB, A-PHP, Shrooms (this was a terrible idea to toss in there), and Etizolam.

The last 24 hours was just smoking A-PHP out of a ghetto rigged DMT-type bottle vaping apparatus, taking another hit every 10-15 minutes and having your head blown off for like 30 seconds
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>>41636705

Yeah, that's always how I've done it, none of this up for days shit.

Meth isn't awful, being awake for 4-7 days is.

I take my dose and just ride it out, never more than 2 days awake.
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>>41636707
I used to do a fuckton of coke but never the research chems / amphetamines outside of adderall in university a few times - so this sounds like pure life fuckery to me. I like it.

Post more degenerate binge stories. It's so much better than the ex-girlfriend blogs around here lately.
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>>41633037
Wow what a bitch

Not worth it sticking your dick in that crazy
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>>41636751

A female friend of mine never did any drugs, drank, or even smoked a cigarette at 26. Had been with 3 guys her whole life. Was engaged to her fiance of 6 years.

She tried MDMA for the first time a few months ago.

Since then she's had a MMFF foursome, and two MMF threesomes on drugs with me and bros of mine, broke up with her fiance and has tried

MDMA
6-APB
Mephedrone
Amphetamine
Methamphetamine
4-Fluroamphetamine
N-Ethyl-Pentylone
A-PHP
2C-B
LSD
Etizolam
Clonazolam

and is about to try MDA and GHB soon
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>>41636731
aye, love my stims cant do psychedelics anymore ....even stims lead me to paranoia (ended with meth and coke)....stick to Modafinil desu.
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>>41636845

Modafinil is piss water
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>>41636595
>shot up a quarter gram of meth the other day.
>That's about it.
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>>41636818
>A female friend of mine never did any drugs, drank, or even smoked a cigarette at 26. Had been with 3 guys her whole life. Was engaged to her fiance of 6 years.
>She tried MDMA for the first time a few months ago.
>Since then she's had a MMFF foursome, and two MMF threesomes on drugs with me and bros of mine, broke up with her fiance and has tried
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>>41636818
life finds a way
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>>41636818
>MDMA
>6-APB
>Mephedrone
>Amphetamine
>Methamphetamine
>4-Fluroamphetamine
>N-Ethyl-Pentylone
>A-PHP
>2C-B
>LSD
>Etizolam
>Clonazolam

Mm yes yes, I know some of these words
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>>41636906
If you're high on meth all the time of course modafinil won't do jack fucking shit.
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>>41636818
>N-Ethyl-Pentylone
give me some anecdotal cliffs notes on why I never heard of this. quick googling reveals it to be stupid fun, but anything is at the right dose tbH
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Lads I don't understand why I feel so hungry/bingey before sleeping?

>work night shift (10pm-7am).

I eat 800 cals in the mid afternoons(pre and post workout).

I generally eat 800-1k cals at 1am as my "lunch".

About 200-300 cals at 4:30am for snacktime, usually just a protein drink.

Then for some reason, at 7:30am before I go to sleep I have this urge to just eat shit 500-1k+ cals.

I don't fucking understand why I don't just go to sleep, that is completely fucking unnecessary.

I was thinking of maybe just eating half the food on my 1am lunch and just having decaf tea at 4:30am.
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oh my god lads, I want a mcdonald's cheeseburger with that weird ass mcdonald's ketchup and a bigmac right fucking now.

>tfw haven't had fast food in 5 months
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>>41637559
>mfw only cheat meal whatsoever both in terms of junk food, and going over macros/cals in general in the last three months was a mcdonals cheeseburger with two added patties and one added cheese slice, and a small iced tea
>mfw I still want to kms myself over it three weeks later
outta the way, anorexic runway models, here comes your new emperor
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>>41637559
>tried image search on that pic
>mfw
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>>41637167
Just deal with it. Have a protein shake and don't go over your macros. It happens to everyone when they're awake at those hours. Just deal with it
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>>41637667
>two added patties

so, a triple cheeseburger? That must've been like only like 700 calories still, top kek anon.
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>>41637718
>triple cheeseburger
yeah, but planning to order a normal one, THEN manually ordering two extra patties seems like even more gluttony somehow. don't question my autism please
>700 calories still
that's 700 calories more than I'd like. full blown fucking orthorexic here, along with a very peculiar eatiing disorder history to begin with

>tfw pinning close to a gram of unverified mones a week without flinching twice
>a single bite of unhealthy food has me sweating bullets from all the health related implications
heinous suicide may be the only viable option here kek
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>>41637794
>triple cheeseburger

you made me even more hungry. Don't eat it, though.

lmao
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>>41637794
>>tfw pinning close to a gram of unverified mones a week without flinching twice
>>a single bite of unhealthy food has me sweating bullets from all the health related implications
I'm familiar with that feel, anon. I quit drinking because it was unhealthy, and now I inject chinese bathtub hormones in my ass twice weekly.
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At 21 years old are the health risks of roids really that huge? I fairly certain I'm not going to grow anymore, I'm as tall as my dad (5'9). Is the closing of growth plates the main concern?
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>>41637794
Well I guess you figured out the solution have fun! /S

Stop blaming your problems on food. A triple cheeseburger is far from the worst thing you could eat. Simple sugars and sweeteners would be the worst. Skipping a gym session could be worse. Acting like a little bitch your whole life could be worse.

Eat the food, or don't. Don't be a pussy about food your whole life. You're not a 15 years old girl (sadly).

Fuck, I really want a triple cheeseburger now but I only have planned one for my birthday which is months for now.... fuck
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>>41637860
>tfw roids are legal here
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>>41637705

ill just have a cup or 2 of decaf soy lattes during my lunchtime and breaks then (like 50 cals per cup).

i feel i wont sleep as well without feeling well after a long night of work, and sleep is at a premium when cutting/on nights
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>>41637873
No need to rub it in, anon. Up here in Best Socialist Republic of Canada, PM Dude Weed makes it so the easiest way for me to get my roids is through a friend of a friend's gym friend. The sketch levels are off the charts.
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>>41637844
I'll NEVER eat McDonalds again

t. will post in about five months about having another, along with a related existential crisis lol

>>41637860
>>41637866
you vastly underestimate my autism guys, but thanks for the """kind""" words.

btw
>You're not a 15 years old girl (sadly)
>sadly
I can be anything for you bby, no homo
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>>41636818
Honestly, he deserves it for marrying someone like that. Virgin christian straight-edge women are just cocoons waiting to explode and emerge a bunch of a sex-addicted crack whores with no self-control. Reformed degenerate women are the best desu, they know they've done some shit and that it fucked them up.
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>>41637899
>no homo
This is /fit/, specifically /fraud/. Everything is a little homo.
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>>41638134
once an addict always an addict

where is kahuna anyway
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>>41638223
sssh, let us pretend otherwise

>>41638294
alive but struggling last I heard
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>>41638294
he's in rehab
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>>41638134
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>>41636359
Fat aromatises you faggot.
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yo has anyone seen Hungry lately? want to know if he has a throwaway I can email for a quick Q
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>>41638748
But isn't it also true that you can lose fat while gaining muscle on roids?
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>>41636399
pls someone post that "guy that always finds a way to fuck up" or something like that pic.
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>>41636818
>no mephedrone
fucking plebs.
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>>41639215
Well define 'some bellyfat' then. Are we talking 25% BF or 18%?
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>>41639215

no way you can put muscle on AND lose fat?
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>>41639304
it's pretty crazy
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>>41639297
18, I have a pouch on my lower stomach
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>>41639215
if you're blasting and cruising, cruise on 150-200mg and cut

if you're cycling, cut natty then bulk on cycle.

any other choice is a waste of your time and money
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>>41639334
I mean, I personally would just cut before hopping on first cycle just because. You can cut 4% body fat in a month by not eating like a retard and mixing in some cardio - it'll just a) make the gas work better and b) make you ultimately look better, because you're likely to add a bit of fat / bloat on cycle anyway.
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>>41639345
Alright lad, I'll keep working out for now then so I don't look nearly as skeleton-like after I cut to get rid of this fucking belly.

And then, finally, I'll go on test and join you lads in the promised land
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>>41639354
dont post this ugly whore ever again
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>>41639354
>>41639377

I want her to poop on my dick
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>>41628957
Lol I can smell it now yes
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>>41639377
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>>41639345

Cut on cycle is fine use the sauna and rip cardio at low intensity.
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>>41635341
Look at how happy you made them
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>>41639281
>mephedrone
>patrician taste
choose one, and only one.
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>>41635341
you have hotdogs for legs it looks weird
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>>41636361
Oh i forgot to mentiom im blind now and my enocrine system is failing
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>>41639467
How blind
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>>41639467
eat more carrots you dummy
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>>41639450
it's not fine because you have to weigh the benefits of cutting on cycle vs bulking on cycle and bulking wins every single time.

when you're cycling you don't get to be on as often so you need to make choices. cutting natty isn't even that different from cutting on gear unless you are already ridiculously large from multiple cycles.
>>
How long does it take for NPP to stop affecting Testosterone on my bloods?
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>>41639572
steroidcalc.com
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>>41639570
I've never even once done a cutting cycle. Just used test (and the occasional EQ) to blow up, then removed fat natty, or only with EC(Y) and such. It's not really rocket science, people just lack dedication.

t. still started bncing eventually because who cares tbH kek
>>
30 vials of Test E, 20 vials of Mast E, Tren E and Deca coming in as a gift.

What am I going to do with all these gains in a bottle?!?
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>>41639774
send me some
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>>41639774
uhh... nothing? there's no way you can use this much shit. 30 vials of test E is over a year of permablasting 1g every week. 20 vials of tren e is also fucking insane.

find a way to flip that shit or something.

I wish someone would send me 4k worth of gear as a "gift"
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>>41639642
how much bodyfat did you have when you did your first cycle?
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>>41639642
yeah, that's what I'm saying to do. cutting cycles are fucking stupid unless you're a monster like pianoman, but then you should really be bncing
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>>41639489
Pretty blind
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>>41639774
750 test base, rotate in 750 of an anabolic for 12-20 weeks.
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>>41628101
I literally walk this street everyday.
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>>41639827
You don't have to use it all in a year you know.

Not keen on selling, people in my gym are snitches.
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>>41639774
1g each eod CMON
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>>41639830
18ish. A mistake in retrospect, but I just upped the ai during and cut WAY harder after it, and tried to be at least 12-13 for the next few.
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>>41640088
holy shit you live
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>>41640192
Already on a 1g a week, feeling good but not quite CMON yet.

Should I bump up for science?
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>>41640218
definitely. post progress pics and bloodwork.

btw what kind of awesome mates do you have that just gift you gear for multiple grand out of the blue? assuming no LARPing for the sake of the argument here.
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>>41640088
fake
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>>41640236
Something along the lines of always being there for him since being little. He makes a ton of money being a surgeon.

Meanwhile I'm a wagecuck that spends way to much on gear for what I earn. We both had some rough times but I helped him stay in school when shit hit the fan at his home.

Going to repay him for this, no idea how or what.

Going to log everything if interest is high enough.
Current stack is 1g Test e, 600mg Deca, 600mg Mast and 100mg Var.
Blasting and bulking till end of July.
Cruising on 200mg Test and 120mg Mast till Oktober.
Shredding down on 250mg test, 600mg Tren E and 600mg Mast with another 100mg Var to do my Dragonball Z cosplay at the end of November. Will stay on Tren until god knows why depending on how I feel.
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>>41639467

Are we going to force me to use an actual trip again?..

>>41639281

It's literally the third thing on the list
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>>41640265
>>41640217
yeah, just don't visit fit a lot


if the guy is still in prague I am longing for some beer, have had a really long day today
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>>41640360
eyy
think this was my old one
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>>41636818
Please write all this shit down and get it published, youve got some awesome storys to tell, total gold
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Achievable natty?
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>>41640434

https://www.instagram.com/thejoshie/?hl=en

Claims natty. As far as I can tell he probably is
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>>41640434
good lord that guy should have stopped lifting a long ass time ago
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>>41640434
>that lean
>still has the face of a 12 yo boy

Is being Asian the biggest curse?
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>>41640146
Hello
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>>41640452
Hi
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>>41640432

Yeah but have u seen my breadstick?

:>
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>>41640146
come to my gym in the valleys, im buying
>>
Good idea to have accutane On hand for first cycle?
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>>41640561
Not supposed to combine accutane with orals
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>>41640561
No
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>>41640561
Adapalene and Benzoyl Peroxide
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>>41640561
I did (still do) and I don't regret it, but it kind of is the nuclear option. I use it because I have acne even natty (and I'm fuckin 26, shit genetics) but there's a very big chance you won't get any acne or very little limited to your shoulders/back. even that much you can usually get rid of by showering more or using BP if you aren't particularly acne prone

shits on my liver even at low-mid doses, though (I take 40mg ed)
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>>41637167
Eat less earlier in the day.
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>>41640340
mirin Disney Pixar friend story and stack (sorta, for cosplay goals). two questions: what you cosplaying as? and are you German? you seem to ring a bell for me but I'm not sure if I talked to the one I mean on here or on another forum.
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>>41640834
Anything you would change for the stack going pure aesthetics then?
Cosplay is just an added bonus, in reality I want to be juicy.

Want to go as Gohan or Trunks, wanted Goku first but his hair is impossible.
I'm dutch actually.
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>>41640360
SHEEEEET I'm retarded.
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>>41640915
nothing I would really change, no, I personally prefer winny over var for show purposes (inb4 shitstorm) but you said it's just a bonus not an end goal so might as well go with var for maintainable shredz, if that makes sense. would go as gohan, as gay as it sounds but trunks hair is a bitch to pull off if you have the wrong complexion kek. or just do broly because CMON

>dutch
oh. well, you have a cosplay bro in germany then who runs a similar stack (less mast iirc) and does dbz cosplay too. small world, isn't it.
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>>41640915
fraud is becoming more and more german/dutch by the day.
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>>41641044
Who knows, if this con goes well I'll hit german cons, might even meet him.

Used to run Mast lower but it works really well for me with no added sides.
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>>41641070
Might be a good thing, who knows.

The Germans I know work really hard for their physique, insanely dedicated.
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>>41641071
never been to one there but I've seen many pics and holy shit, they're either cringy beyond repair or fucking 10/10, no real middle ground. weird but interesting.

>>41641070
ich find es gut. (no I am not, I just speak the language)
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>>41640472
What's a good psych RC?
Thinking of getting either 4 aco dmt, 4 aco met or 4 aco det.
And what do you think about 3 mep pcp.

I want something that's not an upper, they fuck your body up way too much.

But last time 250mg 6 apb plus 80mg mdma, felt way, way more harmless then my normal 200+ mdma. no comedown. energy for 10 hours. Was a great night.
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>>41641104
>3 mep pcp
WHY WOULD YOU
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>>41641100
Yeah cons are weird like that.
Here's hoping I'll be a 10/10.

Got mired hard just walking in normal clothes so I should be good.
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>>41641093
cant say the same about the dutch people. there's like 3-5 serious lifters at my gym.

>>41641100
ich hab auch kein problem da mit um ehrlich zu sein, frag mich nur ab wo die alle auf einmal her kommen.
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>>41641123
I want to try a dissoziative.
Experiment a little bit with ket, and maybe this because it is somewhat like a longer lasting, less sedating ket I read.

I want to k hole at least once, and maybe try micro dosing at a party.
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>>41641151
Dutch people suck, the bar is so low.

As far as I can tell I'm the only guy that really lifts and is sub 15%.
Nearly impossible to get a gym buddy, everyone has their little group.

I'm practically shunned for being "that guy on roids"
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>>41641173
well, it's dissociative as heck, less overwhelming than ket, but still strong. if that's what you're after, go nuts m80

>k hole at least once
do it, then never do it again. low dose ket is a blessing, but you can and will not keep to low dose over time.

t. ... don't even ask
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>>41641070
>tfw austrian
>>41641093
german work ethics will never be matched by anyone
lost 2 wars and still one of the richest economics
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>>41641199
Now that you mention it, I think there are like 3 people below 15% bodyfat at my gym too.

this old dude who's clearly on TRT since hes lean af, like sub 10% and has cannonball shoulders.

and the dude who keeps his gym bag wherever he goes even though we have lockers. Swore I could have seen some insulin pins in there once.

its kinda weird how noone is really cut, they are all just built fat or this skinnyfat hybrid.

being natty must be hell.
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>>41641199
really?
I am admired by most of the people for being that guy.
But I am also the strongest guy there, and the only one over 100kg with abs I think.

>>41641202

Would you use it in a party setting, or at a festival? A few reddit reports sounded really interesting.

I'll do that once. And even the low dose thing would be every once in a blue moon.
I bought one gram 2 years ago and still have 0.6 or something. I tried it 3 times I think. with months in between. redosed once max each time etc.

I have a lot of respect as fat as painkillers go.
I am not prone to addiction, but no need to play with fire.
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>>41641146
post pics in full cosplay pls. n-no homo, but I love me some well done cosplay, always did even before I got /fit/ myself

>>41641151
manche waren immer schon da, gaben sich nur nicht zu erkennen. mir ehrlich gesagt relativ egal, ich find es nur interessant.

>tfw Italian semi-sandnigger
>only people from my area are /int/, /bant/ and /b/ subhumans and the occasional faggot on /fa/
not fair
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>>41641229
Graz checking in
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>>41641245
>Would you use it in a party setting
nah not really, or only in negligible doses
>or at a festival?
a rave maybe. just get a full slap o' dis shit and spazz out in front of the main sound system for hours, thinking you're dancing like a russian cosack while you're just shaking wildly every other minute. or, to say it with less shitposting: maybe. not for the festival itself but to conk out with the mates after the main acts or so. I hate it, but it's comfy to take the edge off kek
>A few reddit reports sounded really interesting.
meh. half of them are larping higher doses and effects than they actually used for muh karma points.

>tfw wrote half an essay without noticing
my new moda guy seems to pack some rank stuff
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>>41641241
Would pick built fat over skinnyfat no gains everyday though.

>>41641245
The culture around here is weird, people probably are jealous, as soon as you surpass them in size they go cold and distant.

>>41641246
Would love to, but I hope I'll explode in size some more so I'll have the clothes tailored a month before the actual con.
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>>41641229
>>41641256
Oans muasd da merkn: A kiwara is ka hawara he
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>>41641256
you are the dude from kurties, fitinn pleb here
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>>41641245
>the only one over 100kg with abs
PIC NOW
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>>41641341
I always wondered when I would meet someone from the gym on here. lol
But how do you know me if you train at a fitinn?
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>>41641312
Then maybe I'll just not get it.
Most guys I know that do ket are real degenerates.

Some more psychs it is. and the standart mdma or something along those lines 3-4 times per year.

I just got my moda last week. The first day I was up till 4 am. Definately legit.
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>>41641435
you told me once before you were going there. we had this conversation already.
and i just know you as anon you could be anyone and frankly withthe amount of roiding frauds in graz thats a fuckton of people
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>>41641484
you could get it for the novelty, but not make it a habit probably. it's pretty swell for a one-time thing to compare it to other dissociatives, just... nothing one should introduce to his usual rotation, you know. also yes, ket has its merits but (very careful microdosing aside) it turns people into drooling retards, and already drooling retards into something that should not exist.
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Fuck these Czech girls are the legit qts of Eastern Europe. Dat natural makeup, if any, and they just look pure or something. I can't really explain it.

Plus everyone here is really laid-back and chill.
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>>41641487
Ah, not bad.
True, so many frauds, so many people that look like shit despite frauding. It is amazing.
I am off to bed, good night anon.

>>41641382
I posted some a while back when talking to mast. Maybe in a few weeks.

>>41641508
very well said.
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>>41641104

2C-B
5-MeO-MiPT

4-AcO-DMT feels exactly like shrooms, but cleaner

4-AcO-MeT is supposedly mostly visual, not a heavy headspace

don't know shit about 4-AcO-DET

I don't really like tryptamines desu, phenethylamines are better in general
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>>41641957
why the tryp hate m8? genuine question.
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new

>>41642047
>>41642047
>>41642047
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>>41636675
thats just fkn sad, nut up and get a life

look up jay parker free your mind conference 2015, maybe it helps u out of this hole
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