Transformation times

work up to 1/2/3/4 and then cut.

>>41623349
2-3 years. you'd have to be around 70-75 kg at 12%

Imagine guy 3 with only a 4pack. That's me after 2 years. Started 5'8, 74kg, 20%+ bf.
>first 6 months
1/2/3 5x5, no DL. Did little accessories.
>after 1/2/3
Switch to dumbbells PPL, 3x8/10/12/14.
Started running.
>20 months in
Stopped running.
Started boxing. Maxing out on dumbbells, satisfied with size, only after getting sub 12% bf now.
For 2 years I've lifted 5 days a week, barely any missed workout days. One was due to an injury (not because of liftan) which took me off for 7 days. The rest..yeah I think I've been religiously hitting the gym.

Still 5'8, but now I'm 65kg 14% or so bf.
Shit will take time, you're not better off doing whatever, you only need consistency.

>>41623367
What do you mean by "work up to 1/2/3/4"?

>>41623375
No way I'm putting on 10-15kg of muscle in that time. But thanks!

>>41623349
nigg#5 is the real deal. However, his legs look like absolute shit.

>>41623443
0.5 kg every 2 weeks is 1 kg per month. in 1 year that's 12 kg. it's very much doable in that time frame even if you gain 0.5 kg every 3 weeks.

>>41623443
he means get your OHP to 60kg, bench to 100kg, squat to 140kg and deadlift to 180kg.
Its just a rough guide to how strong you should be before concerning yourself with getting very lean

>>41623491
oh, ok, thanks!

>>41623487
I don't know. Previously when I was lifting about 2 years ago, I was working out 4 times a week pretty seriously. Had a decent diet, could have been better but still pretty good. I added 15kg in around 2 years. Plus that was with newbie gains because hadn't lifted prior to that.

>>41623441
Thanks. I've never been into the 5x5 or low reps programs as I just don't feel like they push me. It's probably a mental thing because I can lift my 1RM more than once, like 3-4 times. But if I add even a tiny bit more weight, (0.5kg plate = 1.1lb) on each side, I can't even do one rep. Really weird.

None of those guys weigh more than 170. Just eat some more and play some sports.

>>41623600
weird because i'm also 5'7 and i was 160 after almost 1 year at around 13% and looked pretty similar

>>41623658
I honestly think it's genetics. Everyone in my family is short and skinny af with pot bellies.

>>41623349
Read the sticky, faggot