Any PTs here? How do you find clients? How much do you charge

She looked better during her camwhore days.

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>>41599340
*for you

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Implying I'm going to share my secrets for free

>>41599327
can't you just get employed at a gym and have your clients handed to you?

>>41599380
>being attracted to women on gear that literally look like men
>not closet homo
pick one

was a part time trainer for awhile. worked at a local gym.

i was paid per session which broke down to $80 an hour or so. most clients would come twice a week.

i hated it. most people are super motivated when they first start, but after a few weeks when they haven't gone from hambeast to /fit/ they become jaded and lazy. often the diet is the first thing they quit on, and if you call them out on it they get pissy and confrontational, even though they're gaining weight and just sabotaging themselves. we were heavily incentivized to sell sessions in bulk, like 3 months worth, because the ownership knew this was the only way to make money on it.

Why would anyone even hire a personal trainer
There is litteraly tons of information online what you can get, in most cases, for free

>>41599671

there are plenty of people incapable or unwilling to research things on their own, who also have disposable income

>>41599671
Part of the point of a personal trainer is that a person has someone to hold them to their training and to help point out things they may not be doing right.

I've been doing decent myself after reading up all I can about workouts and forms, but I still ask others once in a while if my form is correct, or opinions on workouts for certain muscle groups/targets etc.

>>41599616
does that mean traps aren"t gay?
>have feminine body
>gay
pick one

>>41600342
The war rages on.
Which is gayer? Liking traps or liking muscular women? Tis gayer to like secondary or primary male sex traits? A vagina is a vagina but a female like body is a female like body. Will /fit/ ever decide? Are we all a bunch of faggots anyway? Does any of this matter at all because no matter what we won't be able to bang either?

>>41599659
> $80 an hour or so. most clients would come twice a week

lmao $160 a week on PT? No thanks I'd rather get a whore to fuck me for that amount

>>41600683
Yeah, if you only have one client you retard.

>>41599327
Are you goodlooking? If not then don't even bother

Thought about paying a few grand for some smoke and mirrors PT qualification when I've finished my steroid cycle and look jacked as fuck.

As >>41599659 said, most people who pay for a PT are fat and lazy. Any advice a PT gives can easily be found online for free, or is just basic common sense. Yet people are more than willing to pay someone to tell them rather than researching themselves.

Feed them some basic obvious advice for a few weeks, rape their wallet, move onto the next client when they inevitably give up.

As for the obvious question about me being on gear - I know from various people who are PTs themselves that how you look is far more important than your "skill". Idiots see a photo of some jacked guy and think "he obviously knows his shit, I'll pay him to learn his secret."

>>41600814
The hard part is marketing yourself (if you're freelance). How are you gonna make clients aware of your existence in the first place?

>>41600660
A musclefu gf is still a woman
A trap gf never will be a woman
But the average anon on /fit/ will have neither

>>41600683

10 clients
$1600 for 20 hours work

EZ money

First meeting is selling, stating what you'll do for them, contract
Second is consultation and design of plan
Third is agreeing on SMART goals and orientation to plan
Fourth are sessions
Fifth is measurement and feedback
Six is progress on and formation of new SMART goals, program tweaks if necessary
Repeat 4-6 as long as possible

Charge a lot.

>>41601237
You sound like you know a bit.

How do you find your clients anon? I'm good at being convincing and all that shit, but how do you get clients to come to you in the first place? Social media?

>>41601460
I'm getting most of them via church. Church has that family like circle there people tend to trust each other so it is very easy to tric them to buy my training plans. I'm not religious at all. So I'm going to all the churches and moscs in my area

>>41601539
Ty for sharing

>>41599340
too bad she was a bit of a prude, at least I saw her cute nipples

>tfw nasm blows to get
>tfw city is too saturated with shit bro trainers

>>41601779
Be the best brotrainer

>>41599591
why is reese witherspoon in a stock photo?

>>41600342
that's an interesting way of putting it lol
I think a line needs to be drawn between general attractiveness and sexuality. Your brain is wired to find certain physiques more attractive than others, so it's perfectly reasonable for a heterosexual man to find a convincing trap attractive. It's what you do with that knowledge that determines your sexuality. If you would fuck a convincing trap, you're still a fag. If you would fuck a woman who is virtually indistinguishable from a man, you are a fag for finding that physique sexually arousing.
>>41599380
This is obviously an extreme example but the point stands. At some point you cross the line of normative behavior.


Now this part is just my personal opinion but I think homosexuality is voluntary to a certain degree. How else do you explain the preponderance of degenerate behavior and child molesting that occurs at such high frequency within the gay community?

>>41599380
>>41600342
"Although homosexuals account for less than two percent of the population. they constitute about a third of child molesters." (6. K. Freund and R.I. Watson, "The Proportions of Heterosexual and Homosexual Pedophiles Among Sex Offenders Against Children: An Exploratory Study," Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 18 (Spring 1992): 3443, cited in "The Problem of Pedophilia," op. cit. Also, K. Freund and R.I. Watson, "Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality," Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 10 (Fall 1984): 197, cited in NARTH Fact Sheet. )

Get red pilled on faggots.

>>41599380
who dat?

>>41599380
source pleause

>>41599591
I pay you a nickel, post your BTC address

>>41601779
Live in london
>get invited for interview
>company has 4 positions at various venues
>its suddenely avgroup interview with 30 plus people
>a few ex athletes, more than a dozen professional dancers, some ex military, two currently competeing bodybuilders, two sports models, a few actors and cardio bunnies and then me a sport science and nutrition grad with a recently earned pt license looking for his first break
>its all group activity bullshit without clear instructions from the idiots running it that are apparently "assessing" us

I thought getting my license would help me close the gap on the industry but Im now even more over qualified for shitty fitness instructor roles and don't have the hravitas to get a pt job in a gym

Fuck this shit guess I have to go fully self employed

>>41602806
*gravitas

>>41602806
Fellow London-bro, where'd you do your cert?

>>41602906
With lifetime fitness you?

>>41600710
>>41601198
He was talking about the customers

>>41602965
I haven't done it yet. I'm thinking of doing a cert but there are so many options when you google. How much did yours cost and how long did it take? Did you do a full-time class course?

Not a PT but I taught ballroom dance for a while, the studio charged $80/hr for me and I got $25, coulda gone up to $30 if I'd done more qualifications. Decent money if you can keep your schedule full but booking sessions and retaining clients is the hard part, you gotta spend time making yourself visible and working on your own dancing to make people want to book lessons with you. And most of the regular lessons you get are either middle aged Asian ladies or bridal couples, having a client who you actually improves regularly and can afford regular lessons is pretty rare. I'd guess PT is the same thing, you think you can share your knowledge and make a difference in people's lives but most of your clients aren't willing to learn and put in the hard yards.

I still enjoyed it, but had to drop it when I went back to uni because it's just too irregular compared to working at a cafe or whatever.

>>41603331
Got a student loan for it. Cost cost 3k
Did a level 2 course and a level 3
There is quite a bit of written work but if you have a biology or sport science background its pretty easy

Total time of me actually doing the work, going to the week long courses for each level and practical assessments is probably 2 months but the course took me 18 months due to mental health, procastinating and me not actually wanting to be a PT.

>>41603514
Thanks for the info. Why did you train to be a PT then, seeing as you have a degree there should be other options in the sports/nutrition field?

>>41603600
There reallybisnt much other options since everything within the industry requires you to have a industry specific qualification and then registration and as most people should know having a degree entitles you jack shit now a days in fields that have specific qualifications for different jobs.

The degree has screwed me over in getting the bottom peg jobs like fitness instructor or gym assistant shit since there are specialised qualifications for them that are available at level 3,4 and 5 while a degree is a level 6 qualification which makes the majority of employers in the sporting industry itchy since they know how easy it is for people to change jobs especially when they are over qualified.

The PT cert is becoming a standard for many within sport and nutrition so I saw the opportunity and just went for it. I just want a foot in the door earning a half decent amount and not being stuck behind a desk since as I alluded to earlier gave me serious mental health problems in my earlier career when I nearly became a teacher.

Enough of my blog, I just want to start earning money, so I can work off my immediate debts and do some travelling before the world goes to absolute shit.

Troll L.A. Fatness for ugly cougars.
Profit.

>>41601744
ay hook me up son

>>41603994
Damn. What about becoming a strength & conditioning coach? More specialised than PT and you'd need a degree to be taken seriously.

Maybe you could apply to more expensive or high end gyms in Central London. They'd surely take you with your degree over someone else, especially if you look like you lift. Could become a PT of the rich.
Have you also thought about cruise ship PTing?

Going freelance may help if you want to set up a social media page and get clients that way, but then you'd have to focus on building up your page and actually marketing.

Good luck anon. I want to be a PT but i'm shit at marketing and hate social media so I'm worried I'll just spend money on the training then not be able to make any.

>>41601160
Agreed. Would much rather fun a beefy qt than a trap