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Hey /Fit/ I am at a wedding and am just wondering if marriage is the highlight of a mans life? Who on /fit/ is married?
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>>41592173
Is she ur date?
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>>41592182
>implying anyone on /fit/ can get a date
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>>41592173
Hahaha noy dad says the highlight of his life was the realiztion that he didnt rise a fuck up.
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>>41592173
Why is it in a hangar?
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>>41592173
Not anymore.
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>>41592207
I got a date and it bombed. I think. I don't know.
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Don't get a prenup
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>>41592173
I'm married. It is killing me slowly inside. I might end up biting a bullet, cause i can't do this anymore
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>>41592276
Barn style is the hip thing these days.
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>>41592173

I'm married with a couple of kids. I love it. Maybe it's just because I spend two thirds of the year either away training or deployed. Who knows?
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Wedding day is one of the best days of your life. Never going to get all the people you care about in 1 room again. Family, friends, such a good time. Plus getting hammer time and ripping the dance floor doesn't hurt.
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>>41593695
you mean you spend 2/3 of the year getting cucked?
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>Getting married
>Ever

My sponsoring broker lives in a shitty studio apartment cuckshed and leases his car because his wife utterly divorce raped him. Even took his 40k figures. He eats peanutbutter and nothing else unless we feed him at the office.

A wedding is just a gigantic validation orgy for a woman.
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I'm married. My we rarely have sex and she doesn't want children with me(because she had a child from a previous relationship already) but besides that it's a new adventure everyday and I love my wife
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>>41593736
Not sure if baiting
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>>41593695
>I spend two thirds of the year either away while jodi takes care of my wife
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>>41592173
It probably means more for alot women than men. For women, their great purpose in life is to have kids, raise the family, and if they do not they become terribly unhappy. Any woman over 24 is looking to get married because they have an urgent need biologically to pop out some kids.

For men I think this is not as much their purpose as doing really good work. Family is still important but they approach it in a different way. Biology determined that men are happy to work their ass off in a coal mine for 40 or so years and die early. This is terribly tough work but still fulfilling to them.

23 yr old male and relationships don't seem to be what I am really passionate about in life. My ex gf used to get pretty upset constantly that she was not the single greatest purpose in my life.
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>>41593748
Why would I bait? Sex drive decreases after marriage anyway because your biological programming is not to have sex, but to care for children. I see my wife's son as my own and I enjoy being a family man who puts them first
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>>41593813
>my wife's son

aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>41593813

>my wife's son
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>>41593722
This.
Military relationships you're just asking to get cucked.
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>>41592173
>falling for the marriage meme

lol, no significant advantage for a man getting married nowadays, you'll only get legally fucked up if she decides to divorce and take half or all your stuff

plus she'll cuck you regardless
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>>41593722

That was very clever anon. Never heard that one before. You can have a gold star tonight.
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>>41593813
>being ok with being a genetic dead end.
>millions if years of procreation ends with being content raising another mans blood.
Oh boy. Normies are so gross and stupid.
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>>41593879
That's why I told my wife if she did any of that id literaly murder her.
She can leave me just don't fuck with my child or money.
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>Want to get married and have children
>Scared after reading so many cheating/alimony horror stories
But what's the alternative to making the gamble? Fucking with whores until you're late 30s, then living and dying alone?
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>>41592173
I'm 24 and hoping for marriage between ages 26-30. Thinking shit's gonna be a struggle to find a white american (I'm britbong and would never want to raise kids in this country) to greencard marry me but I still have hope.

I don't feel like it'd be the ultimate purpose of my life but I expect I'll feel differently in 3 or 4 years when every fucker gets married in the same summer.

My last 2 relationships the girl was kinda batshit but looking back so was I. Maybe that's just cause we were(are) young though?
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>>41593879
Fuck you I need a green card into USA, I don't have a choice.
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>>41593940
>>41593940
>Fucking with whores until you're late 30s, then living and dying alone

well at least you dont have to worry about leaving your wife alone for 5 mins because you're terrified shes gonna cuck you
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>>41593907
Who cares if my "genetic line" end. My legacy continues in my step son. Even though we share different biology and different last names, what values he gets from me will continue into the far future. That's all that matters. Also the memers here are pathetic.

>>41593940
Don't succumb to the fear mongers. As long as you put your marriage and your wife first, she'll be happy and want to stay with you. Even the men who happen to be divorced, many had children that will love him because he is still their caretaker or provider. Just have faith
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>>41593879
What are you going to do, spend 50 years in an apartment by yourself until the landlord finds your melted corpse in the bathtub one day?
Hookups and bros aren't going to be there for very long.
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>>41593994
>my legacy continues in my step son
lol cuck
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>>41593994
No you retard the original fathers blood line lives on lmfao. It's natural selection. His traits will live on he will live on a d you will die
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>>41593918
This is the only answer I. Today's world.
You have to use force.
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>>41593996
I'm guessing the idea is to live together but not be married. Fuck knows, personally I wanna get married.

Not sure how people find their long term partners though. Maybe desparation at others' weddings and shit spurs them on?
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>>41593659
Get divorced then
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>>41593994
I really hope this is b8
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>>41593996
>getting married because everyone does it

how about grow some balls and take your own decisions? not because everyone decides to give into marriage, means you also have to

getting married had a meaning back then, nowadays we're too much people anyway, no need to get stuck with one person forever to have a handful of children

there must be more meaning to life than that imo
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>>41592173
>just wondering if marriage is the highlight of a mans life?
It really depends on how you view marriage and what your beliefs are. I'm married and we see it as a lifelong commitment to make things work and as a result, we have gotten incredibly close and loving as we go forward together.
Feels pretty good mane desu.

I think marriage is serious bones and should only be broken in the case of infidelity or death. And if you can't see yourself doing that with the girl you're dating it's not worth doing.

>TD;DR If you have traditional values and see it as very serious, marriage can be very enriching; even without starting a family.
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>>41594013
We all die one day. 5 generations from now, no one will remember our names. I'd rather be a cuck who raised a good boy than a neckbearded MGTOW virgin on 4cham
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>>41594046
You won't say this shit when you're 30+ guaranteed. One summer all your friends will suddenly get married and you'll not want to spend the rest of your life shitposting alone in your apartment.
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>>41593994
the denial here is amazing
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>>41594059
>cuck
>neckbeard

or you could just break up with that random slut and go find a real wife and impregnate her.

Fuck knows though, shit probably gets more complicated than that. I'm like 25 so yeah whatever.
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>>41594060
Im 31, get fucked m7
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>41594059
kek nice bait.. you dont deserve a (You) anyway
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>>41592173
I'm married. This marriage is good. The first one sucked. Marry a good girl and you'll be happy.
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>>41594249
>Marry a good girl from a good family with a good relationship with her father.

FTFY m8, no need to thank me just pay it forward.
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>>41594059
I dont know how you deluded yourself into believing this nonsense. Seek therapy
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>>41593736
This pic motivates me for some reason, maybe because it tricks me into feeling like Im Zyzz while the truth is Im a kissless virgin
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>>41593813
>Sex drive decreases after marriage anyway because your biological programming is not to have sex, but to care for children
are you woman or what? Biologically woman are programmed to take care of children. Men is programmed to have as much as children as he can with different woman to maintain genetic diversity. Cucked faggot...
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>>41592173
why are you posting on 4chan instead of trying to nail one of the undoubtedly drunk bride's maids? Fucking autism.
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>>41594027
FYI look up defacto-relationships. You'll be considered legally married if you live with somebody for a certain amount of time. FWB's are the only solution.
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>>41594059
You still don't get it you fucking mongoloid. His fucking DNA will stay on this planet while your DNA becomes extinct. Why don't you just artificially inseminate your wife with some pro athletes semen you cuck tard.
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>>41594059
>implying I'm an mgtow neckbeard cause I want to spread my DNA and raise my OWN DNA.
I'm actually married. But nice try cuck.
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>>41593659
Why kill yourself when you could blow it all on hookers and blow first?
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>>41593994
>Just have faith

Faith died a long time ago brother
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>>41594578
Because all the fun he has fucking hookers might stop him from killing himself and he will end up worse than before when he decides not to kill himself afterwards.
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>>41594607
Why not both?
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>>41594612
I just explained why.
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>>41594617
Then hire a hitman who can kill you immediately after you enjoy your hookers and blow
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>>41594523
Memetics > genetics. Not even memeing.
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>>41592173

I'm on my second marriage.

Both of my wives gained > 50% body weight in the 12 months after marriage.

Can confirm, it's not a highlight.
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>>41594036
>>41594578
I can't get myself to cheat on her. I used to fuck this milf when i was a bit younger ,25 (29 now), and she was married i was single. It really fucked me up because i met the dude she was married to, and got all this overwhelming guilt over all the dirty shit i had done to his wife. His wife still send me nudes, every now and again, even though its been years since we fucked, and she's still with her dude, and im married.

I can't leave either. We have a 6 month old together, and if i leave it'll likely destroy me. All my life i struggled with not having my father around, and now i am someone's father, and the thought of her going through the pain of not having a dad will make me pull the trigger if i ever did leave.

I don't know man. Everything's shit.
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>>41593659
what made you want to marry someone who makes you unhappy
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>>41593813

there's the payoff. good show, lad.
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If marriage is all about children how come some men marry their swole gymbros?
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>>41594059
I hope the kids are mixed race, that would make this even better.
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>>41595000
She didn't always make me unhappy. I was so very in love with her at the beginning. When we started dating, i was super overweight, she ws pretty fit and in shape, and she was pretty much the only girl that reciprocated my affection at the time. About a month after we started dating, she said she had an issue with her IUD, had it removed, we kept fucking, she got pregnant, refused to abort when i brought it up, and like a pussy, stayed. Now ive gone 1 year with no sex, she barely shows interest, turned into pretty much a nagging roommate, always on her phone yet complains that i don't talk to her enough, we have a kid i don't enjoy being around yet, and i have turned lifting, tren and smoking weed daily to sorta numb myself. I have turned into a greek god, all to try and "excite" her sexually, but it has done nothing. I have coworkers steady trying to fuck me, but my heart won't let me do it. I feel like a fly that got trapped in a spider's web, and convinced itself that escaping is immoral. I'm a very insecure dude, to be honest a lot of people here are, and I've dated very few people compared to my friends, mostly women who showed interest in me. Now all i think about every day is that i have ruined my life and I've lost the girl i was so excited about spending my life with.
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>>41594994
>i cant get divorced, that means my child will grow up without a father
>is considering suicide
Divorce =/= never seeing your child again. Death does.
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>>41592173
If a woman is the highlight of your life, you've set some low bars that you still won't be able to achieve.
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>>41595073
My mom and dad divorced several months after i was born. She never saw him again. I never saw him once.
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>>41595066
It may just be the tren fucking with me, but i feel so lost and alone, more than i felt when i was single.
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>>41594523
>>41594530
I'll end on this since this is sounding like a broken record. My DNA doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. No one's does. In the end, no one cares about who came from who's sperm. If you do, you probably have nothing else going for you in life. I'll let my creations and accomplishments be my legacy.

>>41595053
Why does my son's race matter? He's the same race as the mother though they're different race than me
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>>41595141
quit trying justifying your sick fetish cuckold
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>>41594641
This i might do kek thanks anon, would you like a payday and b-be my hitman? Dead men don't snitch
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>>41595087
That doesn't mean you'll never see your daughter again.
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>>41595141
>BLACKED
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>>41595141
Your DNA is the only way you stay alive when you die. I see it as immortality.
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>at the wedding
>sits on his phone and browses chinese fitness image board
never change /fit
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>>41592173
I am. No it's not a highlight. If you're doing a long term relationship right, then nothing should really change when you get married. I've got a little daughter on the way, I think that will be much more special.
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>>41594060
>you'll not want to spend the rest of your life shitposting alone in your apartment
why would you live alone? you can live with female without marrying her. youre probably just a dumb faggot who deeply regrets his marriage and now tries to cope
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>>41595141
HAAAAAAAAA
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>>41595105
You sound like you know you have to divorce her, but can't bring yourself to do it. I hope you make it buddy, I really do.
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>>41593994
your step son will end up hating you
enjoy getting the "youre not my real dad!" line everyday once he starts hitting puberty
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>>41592173
I'm married. Ten years.

It has its ups and downs like everything else. I can say it's made me a better person, so there's that. Love is a fulfilling thing. You just have to be patient. The thing nobody tells you is that you continuously fall in and out of love. It's not a constant. So be patient during those "out" periods. Having mutual long-term goals helps.
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>>41592173
>just wondering if marriage is the highlight of a mans life
Hahaha holy shit, no, it's literally the downfall of a mans life now.
All the power is with the woman, and typically that's when they start to let themselves go.
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>>41592173
>at a wedding
>on phone posting on fit.

I like you OP. You're my type of introvert.
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>>41593948
I've noticed that too, <23 most girls/relationships are mental, probably due to the partners being kids pretty much with no idea what they want or are doing in life
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>>41598302
>be asocial autist at wedding
>put at the teens table (was 23) because they didn't want to waste a good seat on me, my younger sibling(21) put at proper table

>People dancing later
>One girl dancing with all the teens/kids
>She asks me, I refuse

I don't want your pity. Fuck weddings, fuck happy people.
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>>41593729
>even took his 40k figures
Jesus Tapdancing Christ

My parents raised a big family, they fought of course but everyone does. Both of them were from big, happy families and they raised one as well. I'm the oldest of three sons and I've known for most of my life at this point that I want a big family too. I'm turning 22 in July and just got out of my first relationship, thought I was going to marry her up until the day she dumped me, even for a couple weeks after. Thank fuck I didn't

>crazy
>mean
>fat
>rude to service workers
>made me feel more like a parent and less of a partner
>mocked my desire to become fit a couple years ago

I firmly believe the greatest thing a man can aspire to be is a good husband and father, and while I would not say that getting married is the peak of a man's life, I've seen enough to know it is the beginning of so much more. I'm hoping to be married or at least engaged in about 5 years and right now I'm thinking that matching values are probably the most important thing, and ideally I think the woman should probably be on the younger side if one can manage it, 18 - 23.

I hope you enjoy the wedding OP
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>>41595066
If you don't love your own child, then the problem lies more with you than it does her

You should try counseling with her to fix this. If that doesn't work, then get s divorce. If you force yourself to be around family you don't even like, you'll end up making everything worse.
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>>41593996
Do you have any idea how many men who got married are destined to the exact future you described?

More than 50% of marriages end in divorce, 70% of divorces are initiated by women. Then comes the poverty, the alienated kids, the depression and despair. Getting married is absolutely no guarantee you won't be alone in your twilight years, but it does increase the probability you will end up both lonely AND broke.

This myth has to fucking die already.
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>>41595141
Ya'll realise this guy trolled the absolute fuck outta you, right?

I applaud you, gentle and noble sir. That's some class A trolling right there.
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>>41593813
>my wife's son
I lol'd
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>>41592173

Formerly married bro here,

It was honestly the worst thing I've ever experienced, and I've survived a pretty horrendous battle with cancer. Ever heard of that saying about how some people die at 25 and aren't buried till 75? Yeah, that's marriage.

It involved me being isolated from my friends and family because my wife hated them. She was so jealous that I would run off with some random girl that she wouldn't let me go to the grocery store alone. She went through my phone, facebook friends, social media, etc and hassled me about EVERY SINGLE ONE of my female friends who she thought was prettier than her. She did this until I deleted them because "There's no reason to be friends on social media with people you rarely talk to"
She went from being tight with big tits to being overweight and flabby in about 1 year... yeah, 1 fucking year is all it took.

I was easy to control because I was very, very weak from the battle with cancer. After getting healthy and thinking clearly I left her and got divorced. She still claims she's fat from being pregnant... Our kid is about to turn 7.

Yeah, never doing that again.
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>>41599240
Jesus Christ, you just described the reasons why I dumped my ex before tying the knot. I did buy the ring, but then I realised she's being insane with all the jealousy and insecurity, that she isn't going to change for the better, and that I really, really need to bail before I ruin my life.

She married the next chump to take her in, and promptly got fat, lol.
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>>41599357

Sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders. Kudos to you for making the right choice.
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>>41599240
>>41599357
why did you start dating/marry shitty women in the first place?
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>>41595066

I'm the formerly married guy from >>41599240 and I struggled with some of the same things. Let me tell you how I dealt with it.

1. Marriage is between you and your partner, your child is not a part of it. Children should not be considered a reason to get/stay married. Kids grow up and leave, marriage is forever.

2) What's more immoral? The way you are treated after giving this relationship your all, or moving on to find someone who you can be happy with.

3) If you're anything like me (and you sound just like it) then you don't dislike your kid. You just dislike the treatment your wife gives you. I'm sure she makes being a father miserable, so you have come to think of parenthood as yet another hassle your wife has brought on you.

My ex-wife took my virginity, we later got married. After the divorce, I hit the gym and rehabilitated myself. Eventually, I became a male stripper and got to enjoy my 20s. Was I a slayer? Not really, but I've never lacked female attention. Things were pretty rough with my ex-wife at first, but it has all settled down. We work together as parents and don't communicate beyond that. I'm now back in school, hitting the gym, and getting ready to go to a big ass EDM festival with all the thotties. Life turned out pretty good.


Then again, you might just be a troll, but if this advice helps anyone reading this then it was worth it.
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>>41593706
That is true, thanks for that. Been feeling nervous about mine as of late.
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>>41599434

I further explained it here >>41599541. But I was a socially awkward 18 year old who was a semi-loser in high school. She was the one who first gave me attention and took my virginity. I got hooked on the pussy and stayed because I felt I'd never do any better. At that time, I didn't have any other options.

Then she later got preggo and I wanted to raise my kid as a family unit, so I got married. Kids are not a reason to get married, but I learned that lesson the hard way.
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>>41599434
They never start out shitty, you doofus. At the beginning they are always made up of kindness, light and motherfucking rainbows. Any red flags you should spot, you overlook and misrepresent as cute quirks, because that is what you've evolved to do when you're in love. That is literally the only purpose of love, to make men lose their minds for long enough to commit to raising a child.

Sure, hindsight is 20/20, but if you think you're immune to making a shitty choice like that, you're dangerously naive.
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>>41599573
you sound incredibly bitter about women. I mean, sorry the one you married turned out to be shit, but you're generalizing big time.
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>>41599569
M8, kids are literally the only reason for marriage to exist. There is absolutely no other reason for it, other than childrearing.

You got your priorities all twisted up, man. I mean, its great that you made it work, kudos for that, but most guys can't make parenting work in a broken home. The women generally start dick-hopping, they start limiting the time the father can spend with the kids, often deny him access outright (and there is virtually nothing a guy can do in that situation), the kid gets all fucked up because of a progression of step-daddies, or a complete lack of a male role-model, and we have another delinquent soon-to-be felon.

In short, if kids are not a reason to get married, there is no reason to get married at all, period. Because happiness and self-fulfilment, even companionship and closeness are NOT guaranteed in a marriage, but can be got, often easier and with less hassle and risk, outside of it. Rising kids WELL, on the other hand, is almost impossible outside wedlock, not in the long run, and not on a societal scale.
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>be dom long before 50shades
>find a sub
>fairly rich so I can manage to support our living
>basically she acts as my cum dump maid! and occasional secretary
>doesn't mind me fucking other girls
>hit up receptionist from another company
>things get gud
>pause things with my sub, she doesn't mind
>still pay for sub's living and monitor her since I'm a possessive and insecure fuck
>relationship with receptionist goes really well
>finds out about my BDSM lifestyle
>thinks it's gross but doesn't think much about it
>one of my better vanilla relationship
>we decided to get married in exchange I abandon BDSM lifestyle (we tried it once)
"Gotta grow up at some point"
>she tells me to stop paying for sub's living expenses
"okay"
>give sub a job at my company and few months pay to let her get settled
>she declined both politely
Fast forward two years
>sub working in creative video director for some company
>still haven't so much had a bf
>meanwhile own marriage is failing due to sexual frustration and marriage issues, etc.
>one night find out she's cheating on me with her ex
>divorce her
>no prenup so 50-50 (I was earning more than her so this was quite a blow)
>no kids so no child support
>sub finds out and was there for me almost instantly
>she was there and was more supportive that night than my ex had been in a year
>resume our previous dom-sub relationship
>Love her so much I'd die for her

Lesson learned: Subs > Wife
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>>41599720
you're a fag, lmao
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>tfw engaged up until last month

Now I'm 30 and it's too late for me.

Fuck this world.
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>>41599657

I see your point. However, my argument is that kids will grow up and move on one day. Marriage does not expire after 18 years.

I'll be the first to agree with you that happiness and self-fulfillment are not guaranteed, although anyone wanting marriage would tell you that is the one thing they're after.

The history of marriage had little to do with children, nothing to do with finding your soulmate, and everything to do with money and power. Royalty, landowners, and other wealthy people in society would get married to each other to protect and solidify their power.

Are you the leader of a wealthy nation under siege? Does a neighboring nation have a powerful military that could protect you? Then have your son marry the daughter of that nation. Are you a landowner, but need more money? Marry your son off to the daughter of a cattle family.

Historically, poor people rarely got married for the first few thousand years because they rarely had assets worth marrying over. These days, many financial incentives have been removed from marriage.
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>>41599764
My mom remarried in her late 40s. Never too late.
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>>41599765
This is simply untrue. Marriage wasn't a legal concept as we understand it for anyone except the aristos, just as you described, BUT it did exist in common law form for as long as civilisation existed. In fact, I have reasons to believe that monogamous marriage is a prerequisite for any technological society, as the only known mechanism for harvesting the vast energies and labour of the beta male population. Beta isn't a pejorative term here, simply meaning males who aren't at the top end of the Pareto distribution for female mate selection.

You know the way guys today stay indoors and play vidya? Right, that's because marriage fell apart, and society will likely soon follow.

While state law involvement in marriage for anyone but the ruling classes is indeed a relatively new development, marriage used to be enforced by common law, the threat of social censure and ostracism. All powerful motivators in any society with no welfare and limited mobility.
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>>41599898
>You know the way guys today stay indoors and play vidya? Right, that's because marriage fell apart, and society will likely soon follow.
how long do you think that'll take?
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>>41599791
There's still time for me, but only if it goes PERFECTLY.

So I need to need the perfect woman - that means just meeting her in the first place. Get her to date me, fall in love with each other and after enough time has passed, move in together. Then go for the house. Then make sure we're right for each other and by the time we're ready for children, we'll try for that. I'll be 35 by then. But if I don't find someone right the fuck now, or if the relationship fails after a two years or anything else that might go wrong... then it's too late for a family of my own.

I'm sure I'll always have a fwb or the like, but a family of my own? The odds are astronomical at 30 years old. It's not going to happen anymore.

This is fine, it's just that I need to readjust, seeing as the family life was real for me up until last month. My life's going to be very simple now. That's all.
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>>41593940
Have children with them before married. Make sure the children are yours. Even if you pay child support you still continue your genetic line.
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>>41592173
Being a great husband and father is the Pinnacle of manhood. Everything else is shit and beneath you. Be a provider, find someone who's goals align with yours and roll with it.

My brother is getting married to this amazing woman in August. He wants to work and provide. She currently works at a nonprofit but she wants to be a stay at home mom. They also works really well together and I am super excited for them.
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Pregnant wives can't cuck.

Just keep your wife pregnant till she is like 40. Then nobody gonna want to her busted coozie.
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>>41592173
No it's not. If you become stable and comfortable the hoe becomes "bored" and tries to find some faggot twink who is more emotionally available. Hence my current divorce process.
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>>41599925
Dunno. Best we can do is look to the decline of Rome, and try to model on that. Progressive degeneracy, the rise of feminism, dissolution of the family unit, devaluing of currency, mass immigration, even transgenderism, the Empire went through all those things and more in the span of a couple centuries before its fall.

The only real question is, how will our technological level affect the process? What about globalisation and international trade and travel? Will it speed things up, or slow them down? We just don't know, but I lean towards the opinion that all those things can only hasten the decline.
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>>41599541
>Marriage is between you and your partner, your child is not a part of it
you're fuckin clueless. refrain from giving advice ever again.
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>>41599990
Why does your brother need an amazing woman to become a "husband, father, provider"? Why not find a 400lb woman with 3 kids from different fathers? He can still reach the pinnacle of manhood by your definition.

That amazing woman is becoming rarer, and there's no guarantee she will continue to be an amazing woman after marriage, pregnancy, or once the stay-at-home boredom kicks in. Maybe she reads the wrong Cosmo article and decides she wants to be polyamorous. Would you honestly continue being a loving husband in that or similar situations? Because they're getting more and more common.
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>>41599791
>its ok bro you can still marry a dried up old hag
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>>41600248
that's old age for ya. fuck you, btw.
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I just want to pass down my genes and have a descendant. I guess its because I appreciate my family and my dad mainly.

I have many choices about how I could accomplish this.

Either I could keep dating women till I eventually find one good enough (already 30, so Id like to accomplish this within the next 5 years).
or settle down in an arranged marriage sort of way (I know a few muslim women who wouldn't mind marrying someone just for the sake of having kids)
or settle down with my fwb of 5 years whos practically my best friend and knock her up for good.

Tell me why I should or shouldn't seek fatherhood.
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>>41600287
nigger the point of marriage is starting a family.
you cant start a family with an old infertile cat lady.
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>>41600315
the point of marriage is subjective, you retarded faggot. did you not read the thread at all?
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>>41600043
>pet """""moms""""
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>>41592173
Yes, I've been married 9 years, my wife is the most important thing in the world to me. I didn't even think I wanted to be married till I met her, she had enhanced my life in every way possible and truly is my best friend. I feel sorry for people in miserable marriages and people who can't find anyone, when you meet the right woman you will know, 29 days after I met my wife we were engaged
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>>41599645
I agree with this anon
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>>41593706
I dunno, they'll probably gather for your funeral
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>>41599240
>some people die at 25 and aren't buried till 75? Yeah, that's marriage.

Too fucking true.
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>>41592173
Best scenario for a fit guy- attract a good looking woman with a profitable career, who doesn't need your money and appreciates that you're at the gym getting juicy while she brings home the bacon. Have a glass of wine and nutritious meal prepared when she gets home and vigorously pound her pussy before bed.
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>>41600405

This is bad advice. Women typically don't respect men who earn less than they do, barring extreme exceptions.

Sure, you might become some roastie MILF's fuckboy of the month at best, but this is a recipe for disaster if you're looking for something long term.
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>>41600437
the type of woman he's referring to is not the type of woman you're referring to.
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>>41600437
You ever been married? Earning more money than your wife doesn't mean shit in 2017. If she wants to leave, she will, and take all your shit with her.
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>>41600477
>lmao did you shitlord seriously say that women care about money? sexist much?
>i mean come on! it is the current year after all!

women largely dont respect men who earn less than they do, period. similar to how they mostly dont respect men who are not significantly taller than they are themselves.
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>>41600556
What experience lead you to this conclusion?
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>>41594612
why not reddit
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>>41593879

The advantage is forming a formal and legal relationship with your significant other and having that recognised by everyone you care about. Your wife only "cucks you and takes half your stuff" in MGTOW-esque women fearing circles.
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>>41599357
>>41599434
>>41599240
Wait so yanderes IRL aren't cute? Loving yandere that'd kill any woman coming near me is giving me heart boner. Pls tell me those are just isolated cases and jelly girls are sweet.
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>>41601054
I have no idea what the fuck you just said.
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>>41599993
>he didn't have sex with his preggo wife
faggot, doctors advise preggo sex after woman enters safe stage, it's good for childbirth. + you can go bareback and bust inside everytime you want since she's already preggers.
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>>41600347
>when you meet the right woman you will know
Could someone elucidate this point, in perhaps a meaningful and measurable way? Like I understand you feel someone might be right for you? But right in what ways, and how are you sure your appraisal is sound?
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>>41595427
I came here to post this. I'm in the same space in my life, good luck anon.
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>>41593813
Thanks for the laugh my friend
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>>41593609
>I got a date and it bombed.

Did you take her to an Ariana Grande concert?
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>>41600405
>>41600437

I'm pretty all for this right now. I'm pretty fit, a medical student, part of the army. Now I'm looking for someone with actual hobbies, interests and a desire to bring some bacon home. Yet, all I meet now are girls crazy over social media with no interest in anything else, or promotion crazed girls who are going to slap away someone like me for career success.

=( I feel so lonely and physically inadequate.
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>>41592173

Marriage can be an amazing thing. It can also destroy your life.

If you're marrying someone you would not trust as a business partner, then don't do it. If you don't think they would be a good parent and you plan on having kids, don't do it. If you think marriage is going to improve a middling or failing relationship, don't do it.

You're marrying a life partner. The person who is going to have your back when you're down low, and whose back you're going to have when they're down low. It's a team. It's not all romance and hot crazy insatiable sex. That stuff is transitory, and comes and goes. Some days weeks months and years are better than others.

And once you have a kid things get even fucking weirder. Keep in mind that your marriage will have three distinct phases- the period before having kids, raising kids until their mid-twenties, and then the post-child 'golden' years. Marriage isn't a noun, it's a verb.

Sometimes you get married and the person does a total 180 and becomes someone you don't recognize. But that is extremely rare. Usually the warning signs are all there, you just ignored them or didn't understand them for what they were.

Keep in mind you are marrying a person. Not their looks, not their income, not their job, not their skills in bed. All that stuff will change.
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Is it possible to know if your partner is cheating on you? Is there any social queues? Or is it just luck to catch them out?

I trust her as much as you can trust a woman, she normally cracks under her lies. I just want to know if there is any fucking common place themes to spot out for
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>>41592173
No, dont do it anon
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>>41600174

well if you let your child be a part of your marriage you're a fucking pervert and polygamy is illegal.

providing for your children is essential and fundamental but you cannot let them rule your marriage. healthy marriages set boundaries.

unfortunately, what usually happens is daddy becomes too tired, distant, and unavailable and mommy has given up any human function other than taking care of the children and you stop being partners and become resentful strangers.

mommy and daddy need marriage time.
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>>41601626

yes, the common red flags are hiding her phone from you, changing her schedule suddenly and often to be away from you, becoming annoyed and distant with you when you try to connect emotionally, needing more alone time, etc.

the same applies to male cheaters as well. they all use the exact same playbook.
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>>41601671
I personally wouldn't be able to cheat and stay with them. My girlfriend is in Greece for 6 months for work, i'm a fucking idiot i know, you lads don't need to tell me. But I'm grasping onto the slightest bit of hope because i really did click with this one big time, i've fallen like a chump. Whenever i bring up the thought of cheating or finding someone else attractive, she thinks i'm being paranoid and immature. She thinks i'm beggy messaging her all the time etc, but whenever I give her the option to back out if she was cheating, she just denies it and says i'm being so immature and "cheating isn't even a thing, if i wanted to fuck around i'd leave you"

Don't get it desu lads, I trust her, but she's a girl
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>>41599645
>you're dangerously naive
>you're dangerously naive
that's (You)
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>>41601605
Only reasonable post in this thread.
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>>41592173
I'm 23 years old and have never been to a wedding before. what am i missing out on?
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My GF is on her way to become partner at a major law firm. She makes stupid amounts of money wich is actually great since it will allow me to stay at home, write books and go to the gym all day.
Guess its my fate to become a ripped trophy wife once we're married
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>>41601904
Sappy childhood stories, corny DJ jokes, forced dances of all variety
But if you like getting drunk, and being social it's probably one of the most laid back places to meet people. Assuming they're not family members, you could very well leave with a gal or at least some digits.
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>>41595066
>Now ive gone 1 year with no sex
She hasn't.
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>>41601926
this is my dream
godspeed anon
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Not married but engaged, idk about men's perspective but for me it's a huge life changing step.
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>>41593918
Sounds like you guys have a great thing going.
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I made a rational decision to never get married.

I've never really been in love though, so I'm worried when some gorgeous girl really does it for me, that I'm to weak to say that I won't marry her.

what are agruments to not marry? besides thw whole money thing. She'll probably just say "wha you don't really love me if you don't trust me"
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>>41601704
congratulations, you just found out why long distance "relationships" are a pathetic joke.

now your girl is alone in a country that is essentially europe's beach holiday resort, where all the chads and normies go to party during summer break, and you really think she isn't hopping on chad cocks left and right?
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>>41593960
>unironically wanting to immigrate to the USA
unless you're rich as fuck stay out of this shit hole, there are so many better countries to immigrate to
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>>41602101
there is no point to marriage because the state completely invalidated the concept by repealing nearly all the laws that protected it.

you know how it was intended to be? you marry for life. divorce is impossible unless one partner admits to cheating, and in that case the cheater goes out empty handed. no such thing as alimony. oh, and adultery not only was a crime, but also carried an extreme social stigma, to the point where adulterers were disowned by their families for it. this whole set of rules served as a way to enforce the "till death do us part" oath.

but now all that is gone. a marriage can be divorced for any reason, or even for no reason as all, as soon as one partner feels like it. adultery is now completely inconsequential, and family law has been perverted to the point where an adulterous wife can divorce her husband after cheating on him and still be awarded heaps of settlement payments and alimony in the process.

marriage is supposed to be a mutual oath of eternal faithfulness and loyalty.
but what weight does an oath carry if it can be broken at will, with no repercussions or consequences? none at all! therefor, marriage in the modern west is completely useless.
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>>41595000
>Being this naive
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>>41593658
Lolwhut
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>>41598583
Fucking edgy bro. Can I see your katana?
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>>41601645
Once you have kids your life should become theirs. You had the arrogance to bring life into this world, it's your job to not fuck it up no matter the cost to yourself.
This is one reason why I won't have kids.
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>>41592222
Quads dnt lie......
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>>41593695
>I neither raise my kids nor love my wife
Fixed that for you buddy
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>>41594059
>you're either a cuck or a virgin, no middle term

you fell for the bait nigger
you're in the group of the dumbest motherfuckers alive, congratulations
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>>41601605
god tier advice for the kiddos itt
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Not married but one day, I hope

With my gf for 5 yrs

But she keeps getting fat and I don't know how to tell her
Don't want to cheat her (and never did) but I'm not attracted to her anymore
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>>41600043
i'm a right leaning fag myself but you're a bit retarded. sure all those things that come with leftism are bad but rome did not fall because of them, especially because pleb bitches were having more sex compared to pleb bitches 200 years ago ( which they did not, in fact people had the same amount of sex and the family unit was intact ).

rome fell because of wide spread corruption, snow niggers who didn't give a shit about the empire or its culture and only wanted muh land and because some slanted eyed bitches rode in from the east, destabilizing europe.
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Married recently (over 10 years together so it's not like it's a change), expecting a kid soon.

I couldn't live without her at this point,she's the only person I can stomach to be around for longer than a couple of hours, so even if we stop being in love eventually and we become horrible to each other, we, I, will have a piece of both of us and a crystalizatio our time spent together in the form of a human being.
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>>41603377
please break up and move on to new girls. otherwise you'll be unhappy for the rest of your life, trust me
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>>41599931
>The odds are astronomical at 30 years old. It's not going to happen anymore.

You aren't a woman that expires once she passes her late 20's. Sort yourself out. I'm 30 and looking as well.
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>>41601961
Kek
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>>41599720
sounds less like marriage wasn't good and more like you should've just married the first girl, no?
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>>41599720
>t. guy who thinks hes the shit but is actually just a literal beta cuck who is only loved by a woman who tricks herself into respecting him as a man by having a reddit tier bdsm relationship
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>>41599990
He is doing a good job.
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Marriage is the beginning of a womans life and the end of a mans life.
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>>41601535
How fit? How tall? Some of these chicks want the chad of all chads.
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>>41592173
I got married at 28 (am 32 now) and it's been good. No kids. She's a PhD, has a nice set of tits and ass, and likes the same nerdy things that i do (star trek, star wars, etc ).

Of course there are brutal ups and downs, but you have to make sure to get in with someone you can truly trust.

I see what my friends have to put up with just to score mediocre pussy and don't feel like i'm missing out.
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>>41593996

I'll travel the entire fucking world when I retire early. Who cares about dying alone.
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