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/fraud/ - abusing steroids to make up for our feelings of inadequacy

loli gf edition

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No source talk because mods are cucks
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That's a child
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>>41573993
thats a drawing
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Tren is life, tren is love
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>>41574025
You cant spell strength without tren
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How to not lactate on tren
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>>41574061
Caber fgt
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>>41573903
>mods are cucks

You're lucky I haven't completely gotten rid of these non fitness or health related threads. Just to punish you for that, Alex will never be touched again. Enjoy your troll
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>>41574047
läl

>tfw can't spell amusement without semen either
/fit/ was a mistake
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>>41574120
Cuck
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>>41574120
If people blogposting about EDM levels of heart bpm isn't health related I don't know what is.
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Time to go and cry again
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Is this a good cutting cycle?

250mg Test E PW
350mg Tren A PW
Winstrol 70mg PW last 6 weeks

Gonna do this for 12 weeks leading into summer.

Also, how do you guys change your routines when cutting
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>>41574137
No u
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>>41573903
so whats the deal with winstrol, is it only good for getting rid of water and increased strenght ?
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>>41574183
Time to up AI and dose
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>>41574183
Time to up the Tren
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>>41574183
You were supposed yo say:

>it's time to move on. Stop texting me. This is weird.
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What type of routine i should do on my first ever cycle? I've heard that german volume training is ok. Should i go for high reps anyway while im on celltech? I guess split will be more beneficial than something like fbw or push pull due to extended muscle protein synthesis, right?
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HELP! I'm getting major PIP even after switching to insulin needles. What do you guys do to make it easier to function in regular life with this literal pain in the ass?
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>>41574736
GVT is hella gay. Besides that, do whatever. Did Jacked & Tan 2.0 for my first cycle and Serge Nubret's pump idiocy for my second, now that I BnC I just do whatever seems fun and effective tbqh
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>>41574671
But then I'd be lying.
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>>41574800
Fake it til you make it faggot.
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>>41574864
But I still like her.
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>>41574876
she doesn't like you and hasn't for a very long time move on kek
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>>41574876
Up the tren
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>>41574183
>>41574671
This guy gets it.

You dont have to be mean to her if you dont want to but stop allowing her to know shes hurt you and cut off all contact.
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>>41574183
Story? Sounds,like she cheated?
Ghost that bitch senpai.
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>>41574926
I know. It hurts. I'm hurting inside. It's hard leaving behind your best friend of 4 years. I just want to cuddle one last time with her and for her to say "I miss you". I've been pretty numb since the break-up and now it's all come to the surface since that text.
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>>41574935
This, Ghost her.
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>>41574942
No. We just grew apart and she pulled the trigger. Not much to it.
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>>41574945
Is she first gf. Sounds like it. You're gonna kick yourself when you realize you should've stopped talking to her and moved on later. We've all been there.
There a nothing there anymore. You'll only disappoint yourself a d prolong the healing process however long that may take.
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>>41574951
Is she seeing anyone. She could've left to pursue another interest? Shes prlly fucked other guys alrdy
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>>41574976
Duh she has this is how most people move on rebound fucking
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>>41574971
2nd gf. First gf actually did cheat on me.

>>41574976
No. She's very anxious when it comes to dating and intimacy. I genuinely wouldn't accept her cheating as a plausible option even if I removed her from my pedestal. It's not in her personality at all.
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Loli gf edition indeed
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>tfw you're having a bad day and feeling like hot garbage for no reason
I don't know why this is happening and I don't like it

I've been at work for 30 minutes and I already want to kill myself
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>>41575095
More tren.
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My gym has the ugliest girls all 40+ yr old moms...
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i've had a sterile abcess in right glute for two weeks now
it's still there now, kind of a lump, but tiny, not red at all, no pain or anything. maybe half a cm big.

is it okay to inject a couple of inches away from it? hit my left glute last 4 injections and really nervous to learn another injection spot as I only have 1.5" needles/
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>>41575211
How do you know it's a sterile access. I pinned my right quad for 8 weeks straight tben started pinni g left arou d the 12th week I fucked uo my p.o. s too much so I just said fuck it on pinned my right quad again for the 13th week. Lol. It never hurts and there's like no pain at all. Slight pip afterwards. I'd the fact that it doesn't hurt proof it's scar tissue or some abcess.
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>>41575252
I mean I'm guessing it is, it definitely wasn't infected because I had no fever or anything, and it never really got big.

I thought it could have been irritation from the gear, or an abscess. And since I've been hammering other glute no dramas and it's been two weeks I concluded abscess.
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>>41575277
So it swelled up? Or is it painless questionable scar tissue like mine.
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>>41575296
it swelled up for a few days,redness the size of a 5c piece, then went back down to just the head, no pain or anything just a lump now, no redness
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>2 weeks of 500mg dnp and now 1 week of 250mg

my workouts are so damn shitty now and i feel so weak. my fat loss has been on track for cosplaying but damn do i feel like im half assing my training so bad
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>>41575694
>poisoning yourself with industrial pesticide to look better at a weeb conglomerate
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>>41575694
stay strong fatty
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Lifted out some angry feels. Now going to cry myself to sleep.

Night /fraud/
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>>41574020
drawrings are illegal in some places
how cucked is that
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>>41575715

not my fault video game males set up an unattainable body image.

like barbie except anorexia and meth dont work well enough
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>>41575767
you're doing it wrong, you should rebound fuck some qt femboys on grindr
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hi /fraud/. I'm in week 6 of babby's first test e cycle (500 mg / wk) and I'm starting to get bigger. I've upped my calories to try to keep it going, but I feel I'm getting fat. Everywhere I see says don't cut when you PCT - when should I cut? Should I drop dose to cruise after week 12 for 3 weeks and cut, or PCT, wait a few months, then do a cut cycle?

I really don't want to be a fat piece of shit for three months. I mean, I'm only probably up to 16-17% but I feel gross compared to my normal 14-15%
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>>41575861
>when should I cut?
before pct, or during your next cycle if you don't mind fat covering your fraud gains post cycle
common sense really, and your choice
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About to pin Deltoid for the first time. I am expecting some annoying PIP with this.
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>>41576007
Pinning what. Also the deltoid is the least painful place to pin. You wont get Just keep the muscle relax. lean down on you elbow a little take the weight out of it while pinning
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Quick dumb question, does HGH with no other substances being used have a significant anabolic effect?

Common sense tells me it should have the effect even alone but a nagging voice in the my head is saying they only have a synergistic effect with other anabolics.
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>>41573903
15 year old blonde girls are the best breeding stock and wife material. prove me otherwise
>professional tip, you cannot.
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>>41576070
The thing I'm worried about is I can't z-track it because I only have 1 hand, so SubQ leakage might happen
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>>41576077
No. It will be a non-noticeable effect
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>>41574989
Literally every guy says this about their gf

Ooh she'd never cheat on ME
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>>41576189
>>41574989
Why do women cheat so much god damn it. Like what the fuck, i just want to make sure that when im slaving my ass in some shitty job you're not fucking other men is this really that fucking hard not to do? I still believ in love but god fucking damn it each year it's getting worse.
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>>41573903
Tfw never had tren dreams but had anadrol dreams

First was loli girl on her back me over her fapping sitting over her blowing a huge load on her face after asking me to show her what cum is

Im not even into lolis and never dreamt about them before either

Also dreamt about bitch girl enemy after dreaming about super powers for so long she shows up and I need to use a magical gun to blow a hole through her heart to destroy her evil spirit

Pinned her on the ground and sat on her (kinda like the above dream) she kept squirming and I only got her shoulder. So somehow then I was pulling open her chest to destroy her heart with my fingers.

I mean none of these were stressful or felt unpleasent let alone a night terror

But wtf is anadrol even
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>>41576274
Time to get on board with White Sharia
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>>41576530
>White Sharia
I like this new meme.
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>>41576530
>>41576579
Like that 80s song by the knack
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>>41576274
pretty sure they don't cheat any more than men do

I've cheated on every gf I've ever had, it's just human nature to want something new and break the routine m8
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>>41576818
Can't you just break up before you cheat?
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>>41574762
get mum to kiss it better
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>>41576156
you can z track using your chin or a wall
pressure for a minute after stops it anyway
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>>41576945
no, cheating doesn't mean I don't love my gf, it just means I want to have meaningless sex with other women. I don't want to break up.

and yes I realize it's wrong and I'd dump her instantly if she did the same but I don't care.
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>>41577023
So you're just a shitbag then? Why don't you kill yourself then. I don't fucking get you people
>i want nice loyal gf!
>but im also gonna cheat on her
You niggers fucking deserve to be roped/
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>>41576818
>>41577023

You're a complete sack of shit, and you should be ashamed.
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>>41576530
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>>41577038
what is there to get? sex feels good. sex with the same girl for years becomes routine, so I hook up with other girls on the side.

my gf loves me more than anything in life, my relationship is incredibly stable and what she doesn't know can't hurt her.

>>41577055
I am way past the point of feeling shame
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>>41577339
>my relationship is incredibly stable
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am I the only one who gets hard off looking at myself flexing in the mirror?
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What compounds should I run if i dont really care about size but just want that hardness and fullness to my muscles? I have already been lifting natty for 4 years and just finishing up my summer cut.
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>>41577655
Nah ive wanted to my bathroom mirror reflection a few times, was glorious
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>>41577830
Wanked*
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>>41577783
hard cut to single digit bf is what you're looking for
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Still don't know how deadlifts are supposed to burden your lats. I'm even doing rack deadlifts and only my spinal erectors feel activated.
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>>41573903
>be Last few years
>Gf gets job after job, part time becomes full time, making mad dosh but her body starts slipping away
>Stressed all the time, starts eating more, inuenced by my bulk
>5'3 @ 170~lbs
>Convince her that her job is fucking up her lifestyle and shes gotten nasty
>She knows it and hates it but her job leaves her tired as hell all the time, 12 hour days
Fast forward to now
>Quit that job for something with way more free time
>Got her on that dnp
>She's tracking her calories and dropping mad weight
>Currently at 148~ish, goal is 130, gonna hit another dnp cycle soon

Only issue now is that shes completely flat, no muscle mass whatsoever. How do i convince her to hit that var for a few weeks? She didn't exactly drop the weight too fast but she's def got a bit of looseness that she could fill in.
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>>41578084
they really don't breh here's some info from stronger by sciences deadlift compendium

>lats actually helping keep the spine extended, repositioning the scapulae and engaging the lats actually work to decrease the required hip and spinal extension demands of the lift.

https://www.strongerbyscience.com/how-to-deadlift/#The_Importance_of_the_Lats
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>>41578123
>managed to convince her to ingest pesticides
>having a hard time convincing her to take var
??
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>work nightshift

I have more than enough time to cook a turkey leg and carve the meat out for lunch, along with some chickpeas, taco beans and some cauliflower cheese.

or I could just have a cheeky egg and cress malted bread sandwich and a liter of lactose free milk with 2-3 scoops of soy protein.

I think I'm kinda leaning on the latter.
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>>41577935
Really? I feel like if I get much leaner I'll get even more deflated lol. Have you seen balconybro? He looks flat as a pancake.
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>>41578583
thats because he has weird af insertions.
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>>41578342
She's seen before and after pics of chicks way more jacked than she wants to be.
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>>41575080
>Loli
>14
naw
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>>41578583
I mean you can add the typical compounds that thrive on you being low bf. sdrol, winny, var, tren, etc, but it really boils down to you being shredded
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>>41578494
what the fuck are you talking about
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>>41578636
>loli
>age
Lmao its a body type my friend
Lolis can be 1 year old robots or 1000 year old vampires
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>>41578992
why are you such a degenerate?
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Ask a guy who took his first ever shot of tren this morning anything

50mg tren
30-40mg test prop (mixing the oils is a lot harder than I thought it'd be)
Planning ED injections, may raise both doses after a week or two
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Building a platform this week.

Ordered a half rack from Fringe Sports.

Got bumper plates.

>muh plates

Have I made it?
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Quick
What do I add to my 400mg test cycle
A:500mg eq
B:25mg dbol
C:500mg mast
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>>41579244
All of it
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>>41579244
definitely not dbol

mast seems like a good option but im biased desu after hearing the anecdotal shit from MasT and bimbs.
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Girl declined my follow req on insta should I post some muscle shots and try again?
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>>41579077
Being a degenerate is fucking great dude. As long as you aren't autistic and don't do it in public.

I'm a fully functional human bean hiding among everyone else.
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Would doing another 3 weeks of dbol at 20mg a day at the end of blast have any benefit? Would increasing test e by 200mg be better?

Feels like i just stablized estrogen, but I have left over dbol and haven't gained as much as I'd like.

Wut do. I don't wanna be a sassy bitch again from high estrogen.
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>>41579258
>>41579249
Eq it is. I'd rather not use ai anyway
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>>41579268
IT would benefit you the same as 3 weeks of dbol any other time would
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>definitely have some kind of std
>only getting results in 25 days
I'm supposed to not have sex for a month? that's crazy
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>>41579262
>>41579563
kill yourself
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>>41579273
>>41579258
>>41579249
Mind changed.
Ordered eq and dbol.
Going with 400mg eq and 25mg dbol.
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>>41577339
You're probably the biggest faggot i met on internet
You're the same as women who fuck around in their 20s and then keep beta provider.
>my relationship is incredibly stable
and that's why you're fucking cheating? Jesus what west has become. Imagine if she'd have the same mindest (which at this point i hope she does) that you're just mundane faggot and she keeps you as a beta provider while she fucks chads form time to time.
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>>41579877
I agree.

I see many girls on a daily basis who I would love to fuck senseless, and who I probably could pretty easily, but part of being in a relationship is choosing to not fuck those sluts.
So yes, bad anon.
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>>41579874
why did you even ask man
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>>41579906
I'm sorry bbgrl.
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>>41579877
but that's not what I said at all, I said I love her, I just get bored fucking the same girl over and over again so I have random one night stands on the side. I don't have any ulterior motive behind the relationship, so the comparison to women dating "beta providers" makes no sense.

as long as she doesn't know, what's the big deal?
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>>41579919
t-t-thanks you t-too
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>>41579273
Shoulda got Mast. EQ aromatizes a bit, mast doesn't AND acts as a mild AI.
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>>41579927
You don't know what love means. You literally violate the most important rule of relationship, not fucking other people.
>i love her i just fuck other women!
God you faggots deserve every bad thing in the world to happen to you.
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What's s good dose of tren to add to my TRT for 8 weeks? Should I add sdrol for a month?
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>>41579991
>tren
>trt
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>>41579950
why is it that you people can never form any kind of argument other than "but it's wrong?"

what part of me fucking other people harms her? what part of me having meaningless sex with random whores I'll never see again changes my love for her?
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>>41579991
>clomid cuck wants to try tren his first time using aas
gr8 plan, minimum 700mg
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>>41580049
Jesus christ im fucking done with you. I've always called people fags on this site in a joking manner but this time i really mean it. You're utter piece of shit, that girl you're cheating on deserve somebody who'll actually be faithfull instead of some random fagot who thinks that breaking the most important rule of relationship is okay.
Why don't you tell her you want open relationship then? ahh that's right it's okay only when you cheat.
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>>41580049
kys loser
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>>41580098
>muh feelings tell me it's wrong
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>>41580059
I'm think 50mg ED with a month of sdrol 10mg since I'm currently on anavar too.
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>>41580117
It's not about feelings you retard but answer my question, why don't you tell her you want open relationship if you like fucking other women while being in relationship. Afraid she'll dump your worthless ass?
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>>41580143
I think your plan is awesome and you should keep us updated every step of the road. remember, every bad side is a meme. aromatization doesn't exist, prolactin is a meme, liver health is the biggest meme of all
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>>41580153
because it's not the same thing at all. her knowing I'm fucking other girls would make her sad. I know for sure she would allow me to do it and she wouldn't fuck around at all, but it would hurt her knowing when I'm out having sex with girls who aren't her.
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>>41580117
If you want a less esoteric argument: unless discussed by both parties, the social contract of a relationship assumes a level of trust in both parties. Trust that both parties maintain a degree of fidelity and a degree of communication. It's not grounded in my feelings at this point. The contract is grounded in s mutually beneficial exchange of physical and emotional comfort reciprocated between the parties. A level of comfort that is assumed to be of more importance than comfort found elsewhere.

Discussion of introducing other parties would be a discussion of polyamory. Introducing other parties without this discussion is infidelity and a breach of social contract.

We're also assuming you've entered this contract on a fundamentally biological level: you've chosen to breed this woman, she's opted to be yield her body to possession, and casual sex without the risk of disease.

Breaching that contract puts all of these fundamental principles that aren't born from feelings at risk.
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>>41580174
>yeah she'd defnietly allow me to fuck other women!
>yeah she'd just be sad but would let me do it!
how fucking delusional can you be?
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>>41580174
It's gonna hurt her like a motherfucker when she finds out anon
Not if, when
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>>41580174
>would make her sad.
Imagine when she's going to find out that you've been fucking other women behind her back all the time
On the positive side you'll make one more customer of the anti depressants industry.
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>>41580178
>The contract is grounded in s mutually beneficial exchange of physical and emotional comfort reciprocated between the parties
what part of me fucking around cuts this exchange of physical and emotional comfort from her point of view?

>she's opted to be yield her body to possession
what

>and casual sex without the risk of disease.
I get tested pretty much every month and I only fuck other girls with a condom.

>>41580200
it's not delusion, she worships the ground I walk on. honestly even if she found out I'm cheating tomorrow she would almost certainly give me another chance, she'd just be really really sad.

>>41580210
nah, I'm very careful about it. I don't take any kind of chance with that.
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>>41580245
A lie of omission is still a lie.

I truly do not give a fuck what you do, it's your relationship. Your mental gymnastics are strange however. I don't see you as good or bad. You're just separated from reality.
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>>41580245
I feel bad for you.
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>>41580245
You could easily fit as a woman with those mental gymnastics
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>>41576818
>>41577339
>>41579927
>>41580049
>>41580174
>>41580245
>"people" like this exist
When did we go from having one partner on average to this?
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>>41580329
Degenerates
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>>41580286
why are bimbo posts so obvious even as anonymous
>inb4 "I'm not bimbo"

curious what my mental gymnastics are, however.

>>41580329
better than your zero partner average lamo
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>>41580329
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>>41580402
>better than your zero partner average lamo
that fucking cope
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>>41580402
>curious what my mental gymnastics are, however.
You literally justify breaking the most important rule of the relationship.
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>>41580414
it's not any kind of coping, it's just me making fun of you based on a fairly good guess that you're a kissless virgin, this being 4chan and all. kissless virgins also tend to have the most unrealistic standards.

if you want a real answer, it happened sometimes in the 1960s
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>>41580437
C o p e
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>>41579244
I'm for EQ
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>>41580437
>it's not a cope!!!!
>ur all just virgins!!!!!!
that fucking cope 2: electric coopaloo
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>>41580445
Ty. I was leaning toward eq.
Now I'm going with 400 eq 25mg dbol.
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>>41580437
or maybe we're not disgusting pieces of shit that don't respect their partners but that's my guess
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>>41580402
>it's another anyone who disagrees with me is bimbo episode
these reruns are old he's gone get over your crush
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>>41580446
I don't know what part of "lamo" made you think that was a serious answer tbH. since when did making fun of people become coping? I'm perfectly fine with what I'm doing

>>41580499
nah, it was definitely bimbo though. he even had the mobile typos in there.
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>>41580516
Look how hard this kid is coping LOL
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>>41580516
You're coping and don't even know it lel.
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>>41580437
I've got to say I'm really impressed with the other anons calling your cognitive dissonance here. You're a sack of human shit.

A relationship is a mutual agreement that you find comfort, including sexual comfort, in one another. If you cannot achieve that, you open up lines of communication to do so, if that fails the relationship needs to be broken up. You're breaking that agreement by cheating and avoiding communication. You're violating the foundational unit of society, which is the unit of family.

You have a very one dimensional and self-centred way of thinking. It's going to hurt like a fucking bitch when she finds out and dumps your retarded ass because you'll be in sheer shock that your perception of yourself as this infallible god to her was wrong. You claim that she worships the ground you walk on but you can't even communicate with her well enough to have your sexual desires met, so I'm going to take your perception of her with a grain of salt.

Kill yourself. She deserves better than you.
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Just pinned my glute and whe. I pulled out i got a pretty big few squirts of blood.
Did i just lose all my oil?
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Testosterone enanthate doesn't have any negative impact on your liver does it?
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>>41580579
Pin again with 2x the dosage just to be sure
You can never be too safe anon
>>41580471
I thought that you wanted to do fuckoff high dosages of EQ, like 1 gram + a week
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>>41575694
who you cosplaying as/what con you going to?
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>>41580568
> If you cannot achieve that, you open up lines of communication to do so
>You claim that she worships the ground you walk on but you can't even communicate with her well enough to have your sexual desires met
no amount of talking is going to turn her into a new girl I can seduce and convince to have sex with me.

>if that fails the relationship needs to be broken up
every relationship will lead to the same thing, I need the thrill of the hunt regardless of how much in love I am, so all my relationships are going to need to be broken up. I choose not to.

here's a scenario for you: I tell her we need to break up because I have a need to have sex with other girls. she tells me, incredibly sad, that she's willing to let me do that if we stay together. we're effectively at the same point, except now she knows I'm having sex with other women and it hurts her every time, is this better or worse for her than me fucking around behind her back?
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>>41580595
Fuck dude i suck at pinning left glute and now i have to do double ugh :(.
Also, instantly sore after than pin. It was a crunchy one. Rather strange life journey i am on here.
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>>41580595
Nah i use very moderate amounts of roids
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>>41575694
Going to Anime Expo?
I'm going as Sailor Mars (male)
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>>41573993
The smaller the girl is the cuter she will look on your big strong arms :3
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>>41580726
And the bigger your dick looks in her hands
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>>41580711
Post feminine penis
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>>41580655
Better because she's made the conscious choice to hurt herself by choosing to stay. You're assuming for her currently.

Don't dress this up as concern for her well being. If all relationships end the same way, breaking up, then you've assumed there's hurt in some capacity. If there's going to be hurt anyways why does it matter?
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>>41580655
>she tells me, incredibly sad, that she's willing to let me do that if we stay together.
oh my fucking gawd, 911?
Help my sides have been raped.
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>>41580655
Here's the thing faggot. You're ASSUMING that she'd stay with you. That's a huge fucking difference, all your posts say that you THINK that she'll stay with you. Guess what i can bet fucking everything i have that if she'd find out she'd dump you on the spot.
>I choose not to.
here it is again it's YOUR choice not your gf. If she'd find out about that every woman would dump you and you know that.
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>>41580655
>no amount of talking is going to turn her into a new girl I can seduce and convince to have sex with me.
Then break up with her. You don't actually love her, you love the access to easy sex if your whoring around doesn't get you anywhere.

>I choose not to.
And therefore you're a sack of human shit who abuses others emotionally for your own self-satisfaction.

> is this better or worse for her than me fucking around behind her back?
That's better. Because she at least gets a chance to make a conscious decision about whether she wants to be in the relationship or not. Right now you're just putting words in her mouth to justify your own actions. But you won't ever tell her because you're too scared and you know she will start looking for other guys who will suit her needs better than you can and you would then lose your access to easy sex.

In either case you're still an emotionally abusive pile of shit who needs to die.

Simply using "well if I told her she would be sad therefore I'm righteous in hiding it from her" is not morally right in any case. You've taken away her agency to make decisions according to her own free will and thought by deliberately hiding information from her. Do you ever just think why she would be upset by hearing that? It's not her fault she will be sad, it's yours.
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>>41580655
>im not telling her becasue of her wellbeing!
yeah keep telling yourself that you fag
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>>41580655
>is this better or worse for her than me fucking around behind her back?
How is this even a fucking question. OF FUCKING COURSE IT IS becasue she can actually DECIDE FOR HERSELF if she wants to be with a cheating piece of shit or leave.
You're not telling her becasue you KNOW that she'd break up with you but you're using mental gymnastics to turn it around to make it look like you're protecting her from hurting her.

>im not gonna cut you with razors becasue i love you
>im just gonna break your knees with this baseball
Really fucking hero you are.
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>>41580655
This >>41580817
You're scared she'll leave you. No sane woman even the one with low self esteem would stay with piece of shit like you.
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Wew lads apparently my liver is weak. I did my first ever cycle of an oral. After 14 days of Dbol at 50mg each day (with liver protectors), I had very slight orange tinge to my urine which I assume is hematuria. This happened 2 times in a row when I peed, I drank a bunch of water after that and now my urine looks normal. That happened 2 days ago. Today I have slight lethargy but I also slept like shit last night so that could be a contributing factor. I have very slight pain of the liver (1 on a 1-10 pain scale). My stools are totally normal, I do not have pale stools.

Question: How should I recover from this? I am scared. I have heard the liver heals itself well as long as you avoid liver toxic substances. Is it okay to finish my cycle of Testosterone Cypionate, throw out the Dbol, throw out OTC meds, and take NAC every day for 30 days? Will my liver heal then?
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>>41580655
>she tells me, incredibly sad, that she's willing to let me do that if we stay together
You are literally mentaly ill.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_complex
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This faggot actually convinced himself he's cheating on his GF behind her back for HER sake lmaooo
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>>41580963
fairly sure it's the same anon posting mgtow comics from yesterday so it's natural he isn't at fault
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>>41580963
Al Capone thought he was doing good for the community.
Francis Crowley, a serial killer, said he was a nice person and wouldn't hurt a flea even though he killed a man in cold blood for no reason.

People are gigantic fucking hypocrites and never admit that they are wrong. They would rather do obviously wrong behavior and then rationalize it after the fact than have 1 moment of self-consideration. Motherfucking Al Capone said "I have spent the best years of my life giving people the lighter pleasures, helping them have a good time, and all I get is abuse, the existence of a hunted man."

This is a man who lined up people against a wall and killed them. If he can't admit that anything he did was wrong then what chance does the average person have, when doing less extreme wrongs that are much easier to justify than serial killing?
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Holy fucking jesus I just tried to use bitcoin to buy eq.

Why in God's fucking name does anyone use that bullshit.

I just tried to buy 170 dollars worth and it costs like 310 dollars.
Who the fuck wants to pay double price for steroids jesus Christ I'd rather be natty
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>can't ride my motorcycle because its currently not registered (i'm selling it)
>some dude wanna come over tomorrow at 9:30AM to check it out
>clean the bike thoroughly and make it sparkle
>looks hella clean
>clean my back up 50cc china scoot because it desperately needs cleaning
>let it dry
>fiddle with the gas/air mix because it was smoking like a motherfucker
>tune it pretty nicely, take a little ride.
>shut it off
>try turning it on again
>starter goes over but it just wont start running
>6 hours trying to fix that piece of crap
>didn't work
>pretty fucking stressed out because well i have shit to go to

that fucking sucks. hope that mfer buys the bike tomorrow cause i'm spending it on a new ride.
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>>41581175
>Not buying from sources that accept Western Union
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cringe, this entire thread
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>>41581175
What the fuck are you doing nigger?

>>41581192
Watcha gonna get?
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>>41581192
batteries dead
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Cruise or pct?

Almost 12 weeks of babbys first cycle of test c 500/w, dbal 30mg/ed for 4 first weeks done.

Didnt grow "a fucking lot" but definetly can tell you fucking grow on roids, damn son.
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>>41581221
Idk man I've never used this bullshit currency before and every site I've gone to so far charges a crazy amount of money per dollar
>>41581207
Yea that's what I'm used to using, I assumed bitcoin was like, buy 300 dollars of bitcoin for 300 dollars and spend it as untraceable bitcoin, rather than pay double for this shit
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>>41581221
Any street legal 50cc dirtbike. Gonna tune the fuck outta that and become a little roided up rascal faggot.

Laws are fucked here in the netherlands, you can drive a 50cc bike/scooter @ 16. But the next step is at 18 with 125cc.

Oh and also that license for the 125cc costs around 1400 euro's.

>>41581231
starter motor turns over, lights work, blinkers work. spark plug is sparking, theres fuel in the fuel filter, air filter is properly seated. fuel pressure is there.
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>>41581082
Im still not convinced rape isnt wrong
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>>4158126
>Oh and also that license for the 125cc costs around 1400 euro's.

What kind of commie bullshit is that?
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>>41581285
I have no idea man, in germany its the same law except its all hiked up 2 years.

125cc=16
35kw/47hp=18
unlimited=20

netherlands
16=50cc/45km/h
18=125cc/13hp
20=35kw/47hp with less than 0,2kw per kilo
22=unlimited.
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Ok so question
When you pay with bitshit, and you want to spend 300 dollars on gear, do you spend 300 dollars on bitcoin and give them that much or do you spend 300 dollars and give them however much bitcoin that gives you
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>>41581282
>aomizuan
nice taste
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>>41581306
I meant do you buy bitcoin equal to 300 usd, meaning it costs you like 500 dollars, or do you spend 300 on bitcoin and give them whatever that gives you
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>>41581306
I usually ask for the seller to give me a price in bitcoin and I just transfer that because it depends on what exchange rate they use.

My source just uses the google exchange rate but yours might be different.
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>>41581250
look up bitcoin ATMs near you
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>>41581304
wtf i hate continental europe now
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>>41581323
you buy 300 usd which costs you 300 usd and you give him that

where the fuck are you buying from?
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>>41581306

I would just buy the $300 and give them $300.

So for example, if I bought $300 worth of coins, and it ended up being 0.182 BTC, and it was a different rate later. Maybe the value went up and $300 is 0.160 BTC now. I would give the source 0.160 BTC when I paid him, because that's $300 at the time of purchase.

Where the fuck are you getting bitcoin that you have so much overhead?
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>>41581382
I looked on paxful, localbitcoin, and a handful of other sites from bitcoin.com
Every fucking site gives me a different number so I don't understand how to actually know how much I owe the source if I'm spending 300 dollars.

One is telling me for 300 I get 0.117 another is 0.132, another is like 0.071.
I don't understand what bitcoin is and I hate it.
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Seems like le reddit prefers Tren A over Tren E substantially. If I'm going to run an 8 week cycle is Tren A that much better? I'd rather just pin E3.5D since that's what I'd be doing for test/hcg already.
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>>41581427
just use coinbase my man it's way easier
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>>41581427
use coinbase/google for the exact amount of bitcoin you need to buy

localbitcoins is person-to-person transactions, so a lot of jews will overcharge the shit out of you. exchanges such as coinbase have the exact rate
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>>41581443
>>41581441
>sorry, you are attempting to create accounts too fast. Please wait a few hours and try again.

Why must everything be so difficult.
I clicked create account one time.
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>razor rash


REEEEEE HOW DO I STOP THIS STUPID SHIT
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>>41581563
pure coconut oil tends to work well against the itch/redness

or you could just shave with the directions of the hair and not get it at all.
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>>41581432
Yes
8 weeks is not long enough for enthenate

>>41581322
T-thanks you too
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Why must buying bitcoin be so complicated
Pictures of my id, videos of me, email verification, text verification, bank account verification, and I still am unable to buy.
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>>41581563
desloratadine
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>>41581773
shitty s(h)ite
use localbitcoins and a non-retarded seller
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>>41581773
its not retard lol
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>>41581789
Blah, I just switched to coin base but it's still not letting me use my debit card.
I linked my PayPal account but apparently you can't buy with PayPal.
>>41581792
no u
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>>41581773
I have eq but no vials
If you dont mind waiting you can pay me however, pal
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>>41581819
Yea, message me on what's app if you still have me on there. I don't have anyone's number anymore
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>>41581773
What kind of retarded seller do you buy from?

My process is
>give email
>give phone
>give wallet address
>place order
>send cash
>get bitcoin
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>>41581838
Ygm ;)
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Why the FUCK is pharma caber so expensive? $90 for 20mg. I guess it isn't expensive considering that's at least 20 weeks worth but still, it costs as much as 3 vials of tren.
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>>41581941
>amerisharts get 3 vials of Tren for $90

FUCK YOU

t. aussie
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>>41575080
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>>41581941
> $90= 3 vials of tren

Wew buddy
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>>41581954
>>41581970
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anavar is making me really horny I thought you cucks said it would shut me down and make me low test HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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>>41582025
Please just shut up with your retarded anavar cycle
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>I really like you anon but I can't be with someone who thinks Anavar shuts down your natural testosterone production.
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>>41582048
She reminds me of girl who had a crush on me in highschool. Too bad I was socially retarded.
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I guess I have no choice but to spend $90 on caber, my first time running tren and I don't want to lactate even on 50mg ED. Better to play it safe.

I'll have enough for 2+ cycles.
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>>41582120
Just buy b6 and keep yoir estro good
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>>41574183
Jesus.
F
Here lies anon's dignity.
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>>41574800
But then you'll appear like the one benefiting and will make her feel insecure about herself. Too late now, but do you not want revenge?
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>>41582120
please clomid cuck >>41580159
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>>41576274
>each year
Heh, look at this faggot, getting girls and shit. Never gf master race
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>>41577339
And this ladies and gentlemen is why the west will be in a decline for ever. Until we change the meaning of having a gf from a cock holster with a mouth into a testing period for marriage and a healthy nuclear family we will never escape this rot. I hope you're proud of yourself, you fucking nigger.
t. /pol/
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>>41582377
You're the MGTOW comic poster from yesterday aren't you
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>>41582403
First time on /fit/ in months. MGTOW are miserable faggots who need to grow up, but you can't deny cheating on people while expecting them not to cheat on you is degenerate and dishonest.
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Prolactin is a meme right
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>>41582496
if you like milky tits its a meme
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>>41582496
no, I get all my GOMAD milk from fraud titties
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>>41582652
mm
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>>41583188
i want to FUCK yui in her teenage pussy
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Thoughts on this as a first cycle?
>Weeks 1-12 Test e 583 mg a week (250 mg e3d)
>weeks 11-14 Var 50 mg ED
>Weeks 15-18 Nolva 40, 40, 20, 20 mg
>Have asin on hand for 12.5 mg every day if gyno/estro levels get way off.
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>>41582322
I don't want revenge, I don't want to hurt her. I just want to make her regret it just so I can get her to say "I miss you"
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>>41583207
The keions are NOT for fucking.

(Except jun)

>>41583240
Yeah thats good
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>bought a NetSpend Visa prepaid card today and put $269 dollars on it
>have to activate it online, wasn't anticipating this
>Go to activate it online and then it forces me to make an account
>Made account but for some reason the card didn't activate
>Says I have $0.00
>Make another account
>It's locked now
>Go to try and add the card to my account
>Get an error code 900 after I put in the card info and it says to call customer support
>Call them, asked questions by a robot
>Give it card number and last 4 digits of my SSN
>Says it's gonna redirect me to a real person
>Says it's fucking closed right now because I'm a retarded faggot that forgot about time zones
>Tells me I need to talk to a real person to fix the problem
>Source is closing his shop to new customers tomorrow until further notice
>Was hoping I could get this all sorted out tonight and put in an order before he closes and opens up again in a week
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>>41583267
This is what's getting you sad, m8. I know it's the obvious step and that it will come eventually, but get over her. You're currently emotionally attached to her, too much in fact, it's easier to demonize someone to forget them, but you can also just let it go, but do not make her a part of you or your life or of who you are. You'll always feel pain and you'll always think "what if..." about her. Absolutely not healthy. You need to get over her, for your well being
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>>41583512
Probably a rule, but where do you buy it? Darknet?
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>>41583512
anon let me ask you something

how do you think these loaded visa cards are going to protect you when you have to put in all your real info to use the card
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>>41583649
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>>41583649
At the store
>>41583664
What do you mean protect me?
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>>41583685
>at the store
Kek. Ok
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>>41583664
Fucking Kek
I hope he's actually not using them for anonymity.
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What can anyone tell me about THE?
Tips to avoid infection? Pip?
Will it make me have rage boners?
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>>41583632
Stop saying things I don't like.

But srs easier said than done. I just feel like if I could get her to say that she was wrong that would put me at ease for some reason
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>>41583869
>stop doing thing i don't like
Ain't that the never ending story of life?

>easier said than done
Nothing great and worth doing was ever said to be easy.
We're all gonna make it breh...
https://youtu.be/NP5ohTF4epE
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>>41583929
Platitudes don't help. I might just stalk her until she kisses me.
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>>41583869
>tfw made a roider 4 times your size cry with your brain
Kek. For once I feel like a big guy.

>>41583948
Jesus m8, stop being so miserable, pick up your pieces and bear your burdens
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>>41583955
I'm an emotional little bitch and always have been. I just don't let anyone ever see it. Steroids are just a way to compensate.

I just want to be held anon.
>>
Ex-leaf here. I moved to the US after uni, and this is my first cutting season here. I'm about to run out of Ephedrine, and the stuff I had was without any other active ingredients. I know a lot of burgers use bronkaid or primatene, but those both have guaifenesin in them. I've read that its just an expectorant, and so is probably nothing to worry about at all, but I'm just wondering if that could be bad taking it as many as 3 times a day.
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>>41583955

I never realized how much the guy on the left resembles Brock Lesnar
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>>41583983
Related question, should I try just using clen instead?
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>>41583758
No, I'm using them cause they're the easiest for me. I was gonna buy needles and syringes using the card directly and then I was gonna send a guy money over Western Union using the card as well.
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>>41583961
>I just want to be held
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Crusader what day of tren is it for you, how is it making you feel, are you bigger already? Debating whether I want to run it or not.
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>>41584020
It is currently day 8. Not really getting much yet other than some lethargy and I got my first night of shit sleep last night. But I don't know if that was from the tren or me crying.

Have noticed some strength gains.
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>>41584047
how much are you running
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>>41584060
140mg EoD of Tren A
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>>41584068
that's a high starting dose are you trying to leave humanity behind
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>>41584083
Eh. I'm hoping the sides aren't too severe so I can run 1g EW on my next blast.

So far looking good.
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>>41584110
why?
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>>41577023
If you got murdered I'd be happy.
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>tfw spending all my unemployment on illegal steroids

Thanks wagies. Keep on working hard!
>>
this turkish caber doesn't even say how many are in a box fucking TURKish mongrels
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Is there any reason not to BnC when youre 19 years old (indefinitely)?

I started this cycle at age 18.5

My only concern is coming off to have kids, and potentially having low test. Will test go back to natty baseline after BnC if proper PCT? Would you need to run HCG during?

Basically I want to reach the collegiate gold standard time in my sport (rowing) before I hit age 20. I am not drug tested.

I'm worried that since I jumped on at age 18 maybe if I PCT off my test will be low cuz I started so early.

I mean like... lee priest started at age 13 and had kids... idk if he did that on TRT or natural though
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>>41584001
Just for you
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>>41584157
Because I hate myself.
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REEEEEE BACK PUMP ON SDROL
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>>41573903
do most people order AI/PCT through the mail? its one thing to ship vials. shipping blister packs kind of freaks me out.
>>
>first night of tren dreams

Sorry for block text I texted it to a buddy and didn't use green text format

So I had a dream i was driving and there was some guy on a motorcycle and a cop was chasing him and knocked him off the bike then started beating the fuck out of him on the ground after he crashed. So i went over to record him and the cop came at me but he didn't have a gun only a knife and I had one on me too and we fuckin stabbed the shit out of each other, blood got fucking everywhere, like I've never had a dream with such vivid, crimson blood everywhere. Then more people showed up and pulled us apart and they were like yeah we got the whole thing on video, that cop is going to jail, he totally started it. But I looked over atthe cop in the dream and he had a big nose and curly hair so I shit you not i started yelling "die you fucking jew rat" and tried running at him again to finish the job. Then my buddy (not even a close friend, just a buddy) showed up with my fucking old boss who fired me and they were like "see Jesus protected you, let's say a prayer together". I woke up crying because of how thankful I was to Jesus. What. Theee. Fuck.
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>>41585028
they stealth it usually, heck even needles are "discretely packaged".
>>
Next cycle is gonna be my first tren cycle, Gonna start in a few weeks.

Thoughts on this?
>Weeks 1-8 50 mg Tren Ace ED
>Weeks 1-8 25 mg Test Prop ED
>Weeks 1-6 25 mg DBOL ED (dosage split up 4 times)
>Weeks 9-12 Nolva 40, 40, 20, 20
Adex and caber on hand if needed
Will be taking tudca for liver, and I have enough dbol to extend to 8 weeks/push it up to 50 mg the whole time too.
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>>41585212
short but not as big of an issue because you're using short esthers.

sounds pretty decent.
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Exgf likes big arms and big chest. If I get bigger arms and a bigger chest, that means she will love me again.

>>41585212
Why are you using dbol with tren a and prop?
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>>41584981
how you enjoyin dat sdrol crus?
ausfag here and just started a lil blast. have a throwaway for source chat??
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>>41585241
I don't really feel anything other than when I work out. The pumps are real. Lower back was in pain and forearms felt like they were going to explode.

As for throwaway, nah. Can't be fucked. No offence. I use the upstart aus source on leddit. So far nothing to complain about.
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>>41585229
Yeah, I don't want to fuck with Tren E, I hear that's sides in a bottle, So I figure if I'm already pinning ED, might as well throw in Prop rather than test E.
>>41585240
Bill Roberts wrote an article on the synergistic effect of tren and dbol, as in the sum of both is greater than the individual parts. Apparently they work super well together, kind of akin to anavar and creatine but on a whole other level.
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>>41585240
>>41585299
Also, I'm running test prop so my dick works still. From alot of what i've read, to minimize sides run tren/test at a 2:1 ratio. Not sure how/if dbol would affect that ratio?
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Is it a bad idea to run deca and tren in the same blast? I plan on running:
125mg test e e3d
100mg tren e e3d
100mg mast e e3d
100mg deca e3d

Should I just drop the deca? I figured it'd be nice for the joint relief but I've heard of problems with prolactin. Such a mild dose shouldn't create issue though right?
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>>41585299
Its the estradiol
They do estro in tren pellets for a reason

>>41585505
19nors really stack the prolactin
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>>41584540
Hell you can probably have kids on roids. If you're worried about kids go off for awhile, get your sperm tested, and then go to the sperm bank until you feel like you've got a good supply in stock for the future.
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>>41585525
Yeah but they're low ass dosages. I have caber on hand but that shit is expensive and I'd rather not fuck with it. I guess I'll give it a try. I think megadosing b6 or b12 or some shit reduces prolactin? I'd have to look it up again. I've ran tren at 700mg EW in the past so I think I'll be gucci
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>>41573993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E5L32imvsM
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>>41585568
They REALLY stack
Try it out, but its good you have prolactin

And its b6 but thats not enough to stop the gruesome duesum
Helps a bit in general though
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>>41585611
*good you have caber
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>>41585229
Intradasting, does Tren E have more sides or just more of a pain in the ass when you get them since it's a longer esther ?
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>>41585611
Isn't prolactin gyno a meme? If the only noteworthy side effect of having high prolactin is ED or trouble cumming then I don't really care.
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>>41579244
anadrol and tace baby
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>>41585725
Enjoy your milky titties
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>>41585797
What do you recommend for joints? I've had anavar while I was on accutane and that shit did wonders. Thoughts on EQ?
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>>41580590
no, injectables tend not to
orals do damage because they are methlyated at the 17th carbon position making them survivable to ingestion but also hepatoxic
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>>41585828
I love eq, but it really just covers up joint issues. Its great for skin, delt pop and is an over all feel good. Its rbc increase when combined with tren is a bp massacre though.

Look into peps too. Ghrp and grp2 help my joints alot on blasts.

Also if youre not supplementing fish oil and msm get on that
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>>41585701
Anecdotal people say it has a lot more sides, guess it has to do with it slowly building up.

Acetate kicks like a mule and then drops again which is negated if you pin EOD or ED.
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>>41585299
>synergistic effect of tren and dbol
>kind of akin to anavar and creatine

Care to post some articles/studies for these?
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>>41585701
I suspect people get more sides from Tren E because they default to Enanthate's normal twice a week pinning schedule, resulting in insufficiently stable hormone levels. I would advise pinning Mon/Wed/Fri for Tren E.
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>5th day of 500mg DNP

When) does the weight loss start?
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>>41586195
>For example, 50 mg/day of trenbolone acetate used with 50 mg/day Dianabol gives much better results in a steroid cycle than either 100 mg/day TA used alone, or that amount of Dianabol used alone. I wouldn’t recommend either of those single-drug usages for a steroid cycle, but the trenbolone/Dianabol stack has produced amazing physique changes in very many instances.

Source:https://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/trenbolone-acetate/ by Bill Roberts

Apparently anavar increases creatine transport into muscle tissue so adding more in the diet increases it even more so theoretically there would be more of it available for energy metabolism.

Can't find any papers after a quick search, but its all over multiple forums with anecdotal evidence
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>>41586310
this article is fucking garbage.
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>>41586284
It doesn't start, does it?
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>>41586323
Just showing where I read that, not that I agree with it. Trying to figure out how exactly to run my first tren cycle, that's all.
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>>41586356
well let me tell you right now that you probably don't want dbol on your first tren cycle unless you love big prolactin titties due to the interaction between your out of control estrogen and prolactin
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>>41580741
flying witch is best
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>>41586356
i also dont quite get exactly why.

dbol gives you a wet look, and tren gives you a hard dry look.
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>>41586424
read the article and you'll understand why it says it. it compares tren alone vs dbol+tren because "tren alone crushes estrogen so dbol helps with that"

it's the most retarded article on the planet
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>tfw don't have a loli gf
Will I get one once I get /fit/?
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>bitcoin went down 700$ in the last couple of days
haha oops

sucks for those who were stockpiling before ordering their gear huh
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I got a question.

I'm currently week 5 into my 500mg test e and anavar cycle, and my nips are starting to get sore. I use arimidex 0.5mg every time I pin (every 3 days), should I do 0.5mg EOD?
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>>41587465
>I'm noticing signs of high estrogen, should I increase the AI?
only the greatest minds
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>>41587517
Well shit son why didn't I think of that
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I made this thread someone else make a new one use a smokin anime babe PLEASE
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>>41587465
Do you have any other symptoms? Are you sure they're not just sore from you frantically tweezing them to see if you have gyno like every other day?
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>>41587627
Honestly not really. Lethargy happens here and there but that's it. I try not to constantly check my nips for gyno, because I know I'm gyno prone as it is, so I'm just planning on dealing with it
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gonna try out something from a proper farmacy made for dry scalps instead of the meme kit, sorry PSO
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>>41587652
Well you can try upping a little if I were you I'd go to 0.5 eod(3X/w) and see how you feel. But I have my doubts if its really high estro if that's the only thing you notice. Do you have a lot of body fat that makes you more prone to conversion to estro?
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New >>>>>>>>>>41587718
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>>41587693
Nah, I'm actually coming off a hard natty cut and still continuing it through the beginning of this cycle, then around week 8 I'll be going back to bulking for the remainder of the 18 weeks. I'd say my bodyfat is 13% right now and decreasing.

I'll stick to EOD and see what happens, thanks dude
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>>41575211
>you will never achieve this mode natty
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>>41583240
Use the var at the beginning or end of your cycle of test, not 2-3 weeks after. Your HPTA will recover faster that way

Other wise good cycle
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>>41587949
Var is gone from your blood within 2 days.
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>>41587672
faggot, its not a meme, placebo controlled studies were done on PSO you degenerate homosexual
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>>41581192
>kymco
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>>41588631
>paying premium for a respectable brand for a bike you're gonna use for less than 2 years.

besides that, kymco makes engines for honda.

Grom engine is made in taiwan = kymco
Honda some of the CBF series are made by kymco.
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