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/fraud/ - Cheating Frauds General

bimbo pls come back Edition

Read before posting: http://reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki

ABSOLUTELY NO SOURCE TALK

Old Bread: >>41540105
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>bimbo pls come back

that wont happen for a while.
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bimbo just posted a suicide note on his instagram
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>>41558426
what did I miss
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>>41558468
nothing
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>>41558477
well that's a given with these threads nowadays, but I meant, was there a specific event that lead to bimbo ragequitting (again), or didn't he just post in a while as he usually does now and then?
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>>41558494
he doesnt like it when people poke holes in his heterosexuality

get it

poke holes haha lol
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Do you need to pay any fees when sending money through Western Union?
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Going into the field next week for 2 weeks while I'm mid cycle.

So I'll be doing this: ULULULx

Gonna do weighted ring pull ups and dips 6-8 sets between 5-8 reps, start as heavy as I can, and work weight down until I can only do 5-8 reps via bodyweight.

Along with heavy pike push ups, rows, and some isolation stuff if possible.

Only got pistol squats and leg raises for lower body planned, will figure something more out for that

Thoughts? Still think I can make gains before I can hit an actual gym again?
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>>41558402

Found out I'm going to be homeless for a while, can someone recommend me a really fucking simple meal plan that's nutritionally adequate? I won't have the funds to join a gym while I'm trying to find somewhere to fucking live so no point going hard for the moment.

I just need something simple that I can make every day, or in advance if possible with minimal access to a kitchen. Genuinely don't care about taste, I mean fuck soylent is being considered.

I still have my job and my car so it's not game over but I'm broke living paycheck to paycheck. Only decent thing that's come about is my boss said I could use the workshop kitchen to prep my shit as long as I keep it clean while I'm in gutter. Cool dude.
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>>41558588
peanut butter, anything out of cans in moderation (sodium), cereal, bread.

more hardcore shit would be rice, raw oats.
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would you go on roids again?
At what age should one start?
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> they told me pip would go away once my muscles were no longer "virgin"
They lied.
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>>41558630
I never went off.
Puberty for maximum gains.
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>>41558608

So far my general idea has been to budget this shit out to less than six dollars a day if possible. I'm going to bulk buy a months worth of the ingredients I can at a time, prepping three times a week.

So, I'm thinking shit like, black beans, brown/white rice, oats, brown lentils, peanuts, cashews will all be bulk buys along with spices and what not. Then most of the mixed greens are going to come from two trips to the local Asian grocers because anything green and leafy is at a fucking rock bottom price.

Any other frugal tips for a poor cunt who's about to be living out of the back of a forester? I'm already stealing wifi, electricity and water from the university.
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>>41558535
why did I laugh at this
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>>41558582
pistols are not really that hard if you have the prowess, find something heavy to put on your back and split (or deficit belt) squat it for reps too.
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>>41558475
Just read the entire interview. Was rather interesting. Guess I need to run some pharma gh and slin lol
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>>41558784
Alright, will do. Thanks man. Hopefully I'll come back with mad gains since I'm running test and sdrol out there
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>>41558792
sdrol is gonna make whatever you do twice as fun given high enough dosage lul
do me the favor and post before/after pics of field trip, I'm scientifically interested in the gains you might be getting from this approach
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I got done taking Dianabol today. At what point can I take an OTC ibuprofen and be safe? don't want liver damage
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Idk how many of you guys remember but a while back I posted about a package stuck in customs for like 2 weeks and I thought it was gone. I emailed the source and he sent a reship
Then today my original package showed up. They opened it up but it looks like they didn't find any of the goods. I couldn't even find them at first
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>>41559036
lol
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Has roiding been helpful in growing your calves niggers?
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>>41559110
it helps growing everything
but calves are mostly up to genetics
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>>41559153
I hate calves man
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>>41559110
yeah my first cycle made me fat then I grew calves from walking around as a fat fuck

flawless
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Anyone have that screen cap of brick's training program? I've been meaning to give it a try but I think I deleted it.

Bump with tranny pic
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>>41559038
he just saved your bacon

you should pay for that reship
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First for TRT
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>>41559038
I don't understand how he was able to package it so that they didn't find the material?
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>>41558807
I'll post a log down the road and help y'all out
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>>41559038
Haha, I feel sorry for you guys living in third world countries where steroids are illegal.

Anyway, coming up to the end of my second week of a 15 week Test E cycle. Gear has spot on reviews (decent lab) and while I'm not noticing anything major yet, I think my lifts are definitely progressing faster.

That might just be psychosomatic, but what certainly isn't is the fact I'm finding clothes are tighter fitting.

Mood is also up, as is confidence, and most important (as a former skelly who struggled to eat enough) as is my appetite.

I'm even feeling warmer, another blessing for someone who is always cold.

No idea why I didn't take the plunge sooner.
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>>41559478
steroids arent illegal is cuckstan, just illegal to traffic them.
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>>41559534
Where the fuck is cuckstan? Not a /pol/ user.
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>>41559553
your daddys house faggot
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>>41559554
edgy
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>>41559588
lol amazing
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>>41559588
what was in the junk vials? seems like shit you can sell to desperate junkies for a profit lmao
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>>41558742
invest in kneepads and chapstick
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>>41559634
mild kek
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>>41559588
Don't do this.

A lot of sources have to reinvent how they stealth when processes are revealed. I'd delete this out of respect for your source.
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>>41559662
oh no, poor source will have to think of a new method to hide their shit in order to get their daily billion dollars
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>>41559623
I've got no idea. The liquid looks like its some kind of oil and the brown stuff smells like dirt

>>41559662
ya you're right, he has been good to me
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>>41559697
as I said, shit to sell to desperate junkies. around here they'll shoot dried snot if you tell them it gets them high.
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>>41559678
holy fuck you're naive
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>>41558581
no, the service exists for free purely to serve you
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Hey lads,

Baby's first creatine. Looking for recommendations. Need to put as much weight as possible
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Any of you queers tried Mtren? How are the gains compared to Adrol/Dbol?
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>>41559854
12-15g a day (taper up), take with food. keep hydrated and prepare for a wee bit of diarrhea for the first week, that's perfectly normal.

>>41559857
if you need to ask...
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>>41559857
kills your hair
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>bought $70 worth of bitcoin
>put off ordering for 2 days
>$85 now

this meme currency is retarded
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>>41558588
1. cook a bunch of white rice (try lime and cilantro)
2. buy some meat (ground turkey, ground beef, steak, chicken) cook and add to rice
3. eat this meal a couple of times a day, most of your fats will be from fatty meats, keep the rice portion kinda small so u dont eat too many carbs and get fat
4. some veggies for lunch
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>>41558630
im on my first cycle
started at 18, its great

some guys start in their mid teens tjheyre all perfectly fine although they probably have to TRT
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>>41559977
> bought $500 worth of bitcoin
> if I had waited 2 months it would have been $1200
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>get swole
>still fap to BLACKED and sometimes imagine I'm the girl

Uh, guys? I thought becoming more manly would fix me..
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>>41560607
gaining muscle can't fix your degenerate brain
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>>41560607
Kys, only option
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>>41560607
get a black stud bf and call him daddy
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>>41560607
frauds got me into BLACKED in the first place
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>>41560607
>>41560617
>>41560643
>>41560647
>>41560651
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>>41560651
how
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>>41560671
the increased horniness took me further into the porn rabbit hole
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>>41560607
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>>41560702
or maybe you have no other hobbies to occupy your time
maybe your blatant lack of personal integrity likely stemming from an equally nonexistent father figure

reevaluate yourself before it's too late
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>>41560722
Please help me. What should I cycle to make me an aggressive brute I don't want to be a cuckold. Oral tren?
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>>41560740
you need to quit pornography dude
if you must watch it, watch girls getting off alone. NO DUDES
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>>41560740
it's too late for you, nothing can improve you, only make you worse.
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Day 13 of Anavar and I get better pumps and some strength but I don't look much different.
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>>41560992
what a surprise
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>>41558588
how did you find this out??? also where do you live?
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>>41561006
What are you trying to say..
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>>41561043
you know what I'm trying to say you clomid cuck
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Can anyone give me some advice? I recently procured some Test E and Aromasin, and was planning on doing a 500mg/wk program, front loading the cycle with 750mg the first day (250mg E3.5D afterwards), and Aromasin 12.5mg E3.5D as well. Does this sound reasonable?

Here's what I want to know: I live in a fascist state (NY) where private blood tests are not an option for me. Does anyone have any experience with driving out of state to get blood work done privately, with fake name/address, etc.?

I know blood work is critical to having a successful cycle. I don't want to fuck up my first cycle.
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>>41561054
You're saying I need to take Mtren next to get some real results
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>>41561098
yes please do
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>>41560740
Bring the dose down to drop your sex drive and just force yourself to look at something else when you need to get off.
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nice dead thread americucks
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>>41559857

Have tried it for a couple of blasts went up to 2mg last one and the sides included liver pain anger hair loss and massive strenght at the gym
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My gf has this friend who I've gotten pretty close with. We always go out as a group. Weird circumstances has lead to us being left alone together many times. last time we got drunk we ended up holding hands.

Would it be a bad idea to invite her out for a drink just us two? Not trying to fuck but I do enjoy the ego boost.
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>>41562272
sure go ahead
with that attitude your relationship won't last much longer anyways
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>>41559977

Owning bitcoin can literally pay for your shit
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>>41562300
Fml why do my girlfriends friends always like me?

We were all hanging out today but my gf had to go. Me and her friend had no where to be and it felt like she wanted to keep hanging out but I wasn't going to ask lol
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is taking lgd 4033 on test blast worth it ? i heard that lgd works similary to proviron when it comes to increasing free test by crushing shbg.
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>>41559110
stop wasting your time on calf raises and do heavy ass farmer walks nigger
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How's adrol on the hair

Tfw genelet
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>>41562408
>Fml why do my girlfriends friends always like me?
because all women are whores competing for social status
you seem new
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>>41562528
are you balding? if so don't do anything androgenic. stick to test and wet compounds hairlet
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>>41562408
because it makes them feel better if they can steal someone elses man.

The thing most guys don't realize is how important social status is to girls. It really is less about you and more about their social circle.

Protip: Birds of a feather flock together, try find a girl who isn't like this.
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>faggot doctor didn't call me back yet
>been two days

He's probably scared I'm gonna be angry about my clomid vision sides, but I made them up so I can get injections. JUST give me my test.
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So, everyone is juicing now? And I mean everyone. I see the capped delts on 15 years olds even in Germany.

Any statistics on steroid usage or something like that?
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>>41563040
at the moment in a fitinn austria (19€ mcfit style) 18people 4 definitly roiding (me included) and 6 almost certanly
so i would guess 50%
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>>41563192
bam oida pock mei lebn ned, aufgsaftlte tschuschnjungs links und rechts he
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>>41563040
Italy here, my gym has no obvious roiders (except me, and the owner, topkek), but we have a lot of guys, even teens, who CLEARLY didn't lean out that much that fast naturally, so I guess it's true.
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>>41563040

It's everywhere in Australia
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>>41563040
>too late to explore the world
>too early to explore the galaxy
>just in time to order questionable bathtub hormones from the internet CMON
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>>41559038
That's because PPL is awesome. Just always takes for fucking ever
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Chem if you read this: do you still check your natty gmail? I sent you a message
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oh hey here's the 7 day post cut rebound you asked for. 'member the difference is also between when I was starving myself and now, that I've eaten like a normal person for a week
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>>41563924
Do you feel that it was worth it?
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>>41564043
I'm happy with the suicide cut results on its own yes. About -5 kg in 2 weeks, and this is after the rebound. But no I regret bothering with my fat% at all at with this muscle mass. At least now the results will be more clear if I can keep a decent diet.
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>>41562272
>ended up holding hands
Fucking chads
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>>41562272
You are trying to fuck her, you're just lying to yourself and us. You'll have a bunch of scenarios already running through your head with all the excuses 'oh we were drunk, the fucking didnt mean anything, it wasnt supposed to happen'

Dont lie, accept what you want to do and do it.
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Any need to wait for my precycle blood results to come back or is it cool to get that done and hop on right after? 500mg test a week and 50mg dbol kickstart for 6 weeks with Asin from the start. Sound about right?
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>>41564412
>been on for a while
>precycle bloods show horrendous values
>oh well, might as well finish cycle because I already started and early pct sucks
>ded

Do you also continue raw dogging hookers while you wait for your AIDS test?
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>>41564468
Do you not?
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>>41564468
But really was just using it to know what my test should come back to after PCT
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>>41564689
I don't really practice what I preach :^)

>>41564703
Ok then, for that alone it'll work. I've just heard of enough people who have lipid and e2 values all over the place pre-cycle but still hop on immediately because yolo
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>start working out after 1 year break
>last workout style was full on brosplit & max 2pl8 squats etc
>different program and still claim natty status
>notice superior gains
>hit 1/2/3/4 in 3 months
>bit over 4 months back in gym
>just hit 4pl8 squat and going for 5pl8 diddies
>use large dose of lamictal for bipolar
>mfw claimed all natty and research tells lamictal acts as aromatase inhibitor
>increased sexdrive, want to fuck like rabbit etc
>banned in some sports
>not sure if AI itself has some effect

So should i go full /fraud/ /fit/ ?
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>>41565059
Wewlad. I figure if something's out of whack I'll have to dial it in anyway. Maybe that's ignant
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>>41565135
Nah you'll probably be fine. Just pay attention to your body.
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>>41565167
tybbgirl

Now I've just gotta sack up and do the first pin
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So are any peptides actually worth it? Been looking at ghrp, mgf and igf 1 specifically there seems to be conflicting information from peptide shills and general forum goers. Anyone here tried any of the above and if so opinion?
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Every fucking time I pin even using z-track a good bit of blood comes out with the needle. I swear.

Also. What to do in Prague? Any good gyms near old Town?
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>>41565177
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Is it really all that dangerous for an 18 year old that's very matured to do a 12 week cycle of 250mg/weekly? I have Clomid and Nolva for PCT. Play 2 varsity sports and lift 5-6 days a week.
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>>41565607
Test e* weekly forgot to mention
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>>41565607
Probably not but 12 weeks at 250 is fucking retarded, regardless of safety.
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>>41565645
What would you advise? 500mg as 250mg 2x weekly?
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>>41560740
remove computer
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>>41565607
I think you should keep asking in every single thread for a week, getting the same replies every time
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Anyone got a good strength/bodybuilding routine theyre running right now? I've been doing 6 days on 1 day off linear program. Monday Thursday bench/dead Tuesday Friday OHP Wednesday Saturday Squats. Getting quite boring desu and I feel like I could use some periodization instead of fucking around doing whatver weight I feel comfortable with that day
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Is it classed as "source talk" if I ask people whether they think a certain brand of test is underdosed?
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>>41565848
yes
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>>41565302
again, you have just pierced your skin with a sharp object, there are capillaries in there
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>>41565607
you are in danger of permanently reducing your testosterone to a fixed level after the cycle because your body still hadn't fully matured (read became acclimatised to a baseline) before you started playing with your hormones, and now it isn't sure where to produce at
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>>41566042
[citation needed]
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>>41566042
This is non-science and words you made up. Thanks Bill Nye.
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been on dnp for a while and i feel like half assing my workouts has been becoming a bad habit.

sure its fine for now but when im anabolic again i might have an issue going back to my old volume and weighta
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>>41566466
>i feel like half assing my workouts has been becoming a bad habit.
wow way to pussyfoot around admitting to pussyfooting around your workouts.
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>>41566466
When you're off dnp you won't feel extremely lethargic so it won't be an issue, might take a couple weeks to return fully to normal though
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>>41566466
deload a wee bit, taper up the volume over the course of a week or two, go balls to the wall as usual (>implying) after that.
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>>41567012
>deload a wee bit
Ew dude. If you want your penis deloaded, do it yourself.
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>>41565239
Anyone?
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>>41567063
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>>41566014
I know. It's annoying though. I've noticed if I let up on pulling the skin to the side as I'm taking the needle out there's usually less blood if any but I can feel the needle scrape the muscle fascia(or something) and it feels weird.
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When you guys do multiple body parts in a workout, do you do all of one, then all of the other? Or do you alternate?

For example, with chest and back, would you do bench, then flies, then rows, then pulldowns? Or would you do bench, then rows, then flies, then pulldowns?

Or does it not matter?
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I'm considering doing a 1 time cycle. What would a good 1 time cycle be?Also, is 19 year old to young to do a 1 time cycle?
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>>41567234
I'm usually alternating to save time and keep the "groove" that I get from supersetting without ruining it with too long pauses. But it doesn't really matter I guess.
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>>41558429
Whats Bimbo's ig?
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>>41563367
Und a prolet unter erna
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>>41566042
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>>41565756
I asked in a thread yesterday... about the same cycle and didn't get many responses. Haven't asked about it more than that Cx
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>>41567238
500 mg test e a week for 12 weeks.
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>>41567234
Back chest back chest back chest abbs cardio
Front rear side front rear side delts tri bi tri bi abbs cardio
Quads hams calvs quads hams calvs

Sonetimes i do inverted
Dont know if retarded or not but it works and keeps me in the gym
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Acquired some lgd and decided to throw it into my test e cycle. However, after dosage I've noticed I get tachycardia in the neighborhood of 80-98bpm. Prior to this I had a bpm of 65-78 on cycle. Also noticed my Estro sides increase and had to up my asin from 12.5EoD to ED.

My guess, this isn't LGD as no other forum, board or cycle log I could find stated sides like this. Anybody know what this could be? Probably going to abandon the LGD and continue my cycle as usual.

Additional info: bf 13%, drink roughly 1.5 gallons of water a day, sodium doesn't exceed 1.5 grams ever & I do at least 15-20 minutes of cardio everyday. Thanks in advance.
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>>41566042
I already have very high test and this has been debated and yet to be proven for certain by any medical study. Of course there is a risk at any age with injecting excess hormones into your body, but is something like a 12 week test cycle going to fuck with or damage a healthy 18 year old male? Maybe, but I personally know 3 other people my age or similar that are on pro hormones or steroids with no idea of PCT or proper diet. Every story you hear about someone fucking themselves over too young on steroids is someone mixing high doses of multiple compounds or forgetting an AI/PCT. How often do you hear of someone performing a short test cycle, coming off with 6 weeks of PCT, then being fucked? Everyone in my family has very high test and all have full heads of hair even in their 70s. I am not an average 18 year old. I sound and look like I am in my mid twenties. I have bought alcohol, without an ID, for friends when I was 17.
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is there any way to buy DNP online? I'm in Canada if it helps. I'm not good with covering tracks for illegal things but if anyone could help me find some that would be awesome.
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>>41567491
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>>41567638
are you a fucking idiot? that's exactly what lgd will do when stacked with test. it crushes your shbg allowing for a lot more free test, effectively making it seem like your test dosage is higher than what you're really using
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>had std test
>nurse freaked the fuck out as she was drawing my blood because of the blood pressure
that can't be good
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Can I still roid and expect gains without the lost dht on fina?
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>>41568290
Like hoes know anything haha right guys stupid bitch probably just afraid of blood if it were a dude you'd be getting laid Haha dude fuck stupid women
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>>41568340
technically yes. fina a shit to begin with though

>>41568341
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>tfw on mild dnp
>absolutely fucking insatiable craving for bread
>will literally eat a 800gram loaf of bread in 1 day tops if I'm stupid enough to buy it

I can keep my calories in check and my fat loss is going extremely well, but I just can't get enough of bread and I have to abstain because I will literally devour all that shit no problem.

Woulda been fine but bread has 2x more calories than pasta and rice, almost 3x more than beans and starchy veggies and is way more carb filled (moonface galore).
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>>41568392
But I should rather just wait until I've frauded myself a gf and then get on it to restore muh hair, got it
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>>41568401
moonface will be the least of your problems at those amounts.
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>>41568436
not what I said, but whatever works for you kek
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>>41568443
Uh I'm not a mind reader
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>>41568437

yeah, just had 400 grams of high protein bread, shit sucks but im still at a deficit.

>1 KILOGRAM of chickpeas or beans or kidney beans or cauliflower cheese, or mix
>800 calories
>1 KILOGRAM of pasta or gnocchi
>1400 calories, tons of carb though, but I don't crave em so whatever
>1 KILOGRAM of bread
>2500-2900 calories depending
>550g carbs


WHY IS BREAD SO GOOD YET SO BAD
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>>41568459
I wish I was. cannot find out if the girl at my gym is mirin or weirded out and trying to badly hide it.

>>41568476
I broke a shirt staining sweat just reading this ffs
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>>41565338
Fucking did it. No pain at all. Hoping it was in a muscle since it was glutes so can't imagine I missed. Figure if I fucked it id have felt it.

Also, not sure what part marks the dose so may have done extra if anyone can clarify if it's the furthest part of the liquid that marks or the furthest black part of plunger.

Love you brothers! Glad to finally fucking join the club!
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I'm currently 10 days into my first PCT
Nolva 40mg ED

Planned on a B&C but life had other plans, I'm jumping back on cycle in July.

Anyways, I had tiny, firm growths behind/around my nips throughout alot of the cycle despite having low estro in bloods and taking Asin/Nolva

My growths are still there. I'm at 16% BF and I'm not jumping back on cycle until I hit 12-13%.

If they're not gonna after 4 week PCT, should I extend it, or give in and get surgery?

Or, should I ignore it, hop on cycle, wrap that up, THEN get surgery if I still need it?

Also PCT makes me sad and tired this sucks a dick.
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>>41568476
>inb4 you cook yourself with all thos carbs
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FINALLY got my TRT injections from my autistic doctor after pretending to have vision sides from the clomid. 140mg weekly which is more than I figured he would give me, he wants me to take an AI on injection days but I'm just gonna save it up because I won't need it at 140mg autismo doctor my SHBG is high.

Blood work every 3 months which means I can actually run some other compounds between tests, I figured it would be monthly so was set on orals.
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I just realised I definitely should make sushis with raw ground meat and salmon some day and photoblog about it here
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>>41569045
stop the raw meme you gave me food poisoning after I tried it nerd
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>>41569083
>he hasn't built up a resistance to it
I just get cold sweats for an hour at worst, sometimes. At least you admit it was delicious, right?
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>>41568966
or short esther stuff.

also grats, welcome to the trt faggy boyclub.
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about to start my first cycle, 500mg test e-weekly but i have a massive problem

is pinning supposed to hurt this fucking much?
drawing with 18g pinning with 25g

tried to pin in my delt just now it felt like a fucking bee sting couldn't keep going

switched to another 25g, attempted to pin quads, same fucking shit
i'm not talking about like a small mosquito bite but it legitimately hurts going in

am i doing something wrong? swabbed area, let it dry, muscles relaxed

tried to pin delts again but now i have fucking ptsd or some shit
getting anxiety and cold sweats now just looking at the needle
hands won't push needle in

i was fucking fine before
they said it would be painless, what the fuck is going on

help
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>>41569195
Inject slow, switch to glutes, virgin muscles are prone to soreness.
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>>41569195
it's only supposed to hurt when you penetrate your skin, and it probably hurts more the first times because you're being too careful and prolonging this pain. if it starts hurting extremely much when you're already inside, you should try again in another area. eventually you'll get a relatively painless pinning and that's what you should aim for every time.
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Would there be any drawback to me starting a cruise dose after PCT?
Like a TRT dose right after PCT ends
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>>41569238
y tho
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I just bought everything for a home garage gym.

>lifting is back on the menu boys
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>>41569238
yes you would get significantly less muscle mass than if you skipped the pct and went on cruise immediately instead

do you want to restore your balls? just cycle hCG
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>>41569251
Alright so long story short, Ive posted here before, but I found out I had low-T in January. I couldnt get in to see an endo for like 3 months, and so I started on 350/ Test E a week. Plus my Test wasnt below the reference interval and it wasnt looking like I would get TRT.

I had great gains and lost bodyfat, but ended things early at 12 weeks because of a bunch of external factors. Theres was no way I could be on cycle for a few weeks. Now I can.

So I started by PCT 10 days ago, and in the two weeks prior that off cycle, I already lost significant mass, my energy levels are shit, my libidos shit, basically all the symps of low T are back. Hard.

>>41569276
What about doing HCG and a cruise after the 4 weeks PCT?
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What cycle should i do for explosiveness. Im happy with my mass and stats. I could be a little leaner but not too concerned. The problem is since gaining weight ive lost a lot on my vert. My squat went up so i have strength. Ive just lost my speed and explosiveness. I really miss being able to dunk on nignogs at the park. What can i inject? I cant imagine guys like usain bolt take your basic test and dbol
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Have any of you found that test and dbol causes mad mood swings, last few days its made me mad depressed. Or have I just been a twat and crashed my e2?
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>>41569285
And my mid-cycle bloods showed around 2000 total T and low e2
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>>41569285
>>41569307
you forgot to explain why you must pct and not immediately jump onto cruising
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>>41569296
halo :^)
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>>41569317
Fluoxymesterone? I dont think ive ever heard of someone cycling that. Ive heard the sides are awful
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>>41569316
I had an out of town trip that unexpectedly lasted longer than I thought it would, had no T but had my Asin and some Nolva, by the time I got back I had almost 3 weeks removed from last pin, and had been suffering from some fat loss plateau and polcythemia and figured may as well PCT.

I figured I would PCT, cut for a couple months, hop on and bulk, but holy fuck I've lost muscle and fats basically the same.
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>>41569353
notice le memeing faec, that would be an awful thing to do. I'm just saying, that would be as explosive as it gets this side of cheq or highly experimental mutant peps.
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> tfw I only need to lift 2x a week for my goals
> biking and Texas method
This is the life
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>>41569367
well you've answered your own initial question at this point; pct instead of immediate cruising loses you way more muscle as you've found out. you might want to hop onto a new cycle to get your mass back
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>>41569296
unironically cardarine. will not make you explosive per se but give you the stamina to improve it by yourself, if that makes sense.

>inb4 muh cancer
life's a bitch
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>>41569416
Your goals seem underwhelming then.
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>>41562451
This, can confirm
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>>41565116
Used to take Lamictal and risperidone for wrongfully diagnosed bipolar. Idk about lamictal being an AI, since while i was taking risperidone, it gave me gyno which is one of it's more unfortunate side effects for men. I quit them after 5 months, i had gained 60 lbs in 5 months. It was not a pretty sight. That was in 2014. I'm currently at 12% at 210 lbs 5'11, and can 1/2/3/4 for reps. Idk mate, both meds wrecked my life. But hey if it's working for you, it is good.
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>>41569583
>12% at 210 lbs 5'11
post butt
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>>41569602
No pls senpai I'm shy
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>>41569630
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>two 16 year old latinas walk into my apartment complex gym

I-I'm trying to l-lift heavy
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>>41569666
>not lifting heavier while fertile females are near
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Why are loser men obsessed with only dating virgin women? /r9k/ for example hates anyone who has had sex ever.
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What's the pysiological reason that Dbol retains water? Does it make your blood hypertonic or something?
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>>41562435
You're correct and it would be a good idea
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>>41569803
Idk but estrogen plays a part

Keep in mind when people gain muscle most if it is actually water. Get a dexa scan and it will show that the top bodybuilders only have like 70lbs of muscle and like 100+lbs water
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>>41569785
You're basically a cuckold if you take another mans used goods.
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>>41569878
Dating someone who had a long term relationship 6 months ago is the same thing as inviting a black man into your home to have sex with your wife while you watch. Yeah great logic there man.
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>>41568966
>which means I can actually run some other compounds between tests
Why didn't you just buy test in the first place
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>>41569907
If you are fine with having another man's used goods then fine. Most people prefer their things new and fresh.
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>>41570132
Wow you are insecure
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How do I open these vials without breaking them, I need to make a nasal spray solution?
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>>41570132
Other humans aren't things and entire economies are based around the sales and purchase of used goods.

Really you're just insecure and afraid you can't match up to whatever history another person has. Interesting.
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>>41565116
You might as well
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>>41570152

Pretty sure you're supposed to stick a needle in there. Buy a cheap syringe at your local drugstore, stick it in, turn the vial upside down and extract the liquid.

if you're not injecting, you don't need to worry about air bubbles.
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>>41570158
>>41570145
Yeah, real confident men settle for used goods 30 year olds who have ridden the cock carousel for their entire youth. Feminist brainwashing really has done a number on you.
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>>41570152
pls be bait
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>>41570181
So a lady just supposed to dismiss me for having fucked several dozen women?
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>>41570212
A key that unlocks every lock is a valuable key, a lock that is unlocked by every key is a useless lock.

Men and women aren't equal you brainwashed manbabby.
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>>41570225
We just have different perspectives. I think you're wrong but that's alright. I hope you end up happier than you present yourself.
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>>41570237
Go cry yourself asleep thinking about your ex bimbo you sad faggot.
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>>41570253
lol not bimbo he hasn't been here in days
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>>41559554
actually made me lol'd
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>>41568966

I was considering faking sides on Clomid but wasn't sure if the doc was just gonna give me nolva instead. Is your doc with Defy?
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>>41570265
nice try bimbo
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>>41570309
>anyone with a different opinion is the gay tripfag boogeyman
kek
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>>41570324
Bimbo she's not coming back
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>>41569195
I almost never have PIP or pain pinning when pinning my lats FWIW
I think it's because I unconsciously tense the fuck out of my legs before I prick myself.
Also I sure hope that you're pinning twice a week m8.
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>>41567678
You seem decided on it so fuck it just do it, look at Arnold, he was juicing at 15 and became governor.
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>>41570382
>pinning lats
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>>41570181
Nobody said that you fag. I said VIRGINS and how losers only accept VIRGINS. I didn't say I want an ugly whore who fucked 35 dicks. That's pathological.

There's no problem with dating someone who had sex with 4 people before you.
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>>41570225
You can tell someone is a useless retard if they think a human vagina is equivalent to a "lock" and a human penis is equivalent to a "key."

The "analogy" doesn't even make sense. The argument is pure retardation.
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>>41570405
>>41570418
>I didn't say I want an ugly whore who fucked 35 dicks.

The reason you don't want a whore who has taken 35 dicks is the same reason non-cuckolds don't want a woman who has taken any.

It's just a matter of degree and self-respect. Keep chasing after blown out roasties who've swallowed gallons of cum though.
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>>41570194
It's not bait it's melanotan, about 40% bioavailability through nasal.
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>>41570436
....Someone who has had sex with 3 or 4 people in long term relationships demonstrates behavior I want in my relationship... The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior, which is why all job interviewers ask behavioral-based questions now.

Someone who has had sex with 35 people demonstrates that she has sex with different men every 3 weeks and that is not behavior I want in a relationship. Still can't believe you can't see your obvious self esteem problems here.
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>>41570453
If a girl has already have 3 or 4 long term partners she must be a 30 year old used goods roastie anyhow and why would anyone want that? Get a fresh young girl who has at most had 1 guy maximum.
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>>41570436
Why not just go MGTOW, saves you a lot of jaded shitposting.

btw
>what time: 3:07
>cum shower at 3:27
I kek'd, I'll give you that
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did crusader die from his 150 resting heart rate yet
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>>41570498
Hasn't posted in a day or two, so safe to assume yes

I'll pour out a ml of tren in his honor on my next pin lol
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>>41570471
>high school sweetheart - 17 - 18
>college freshman boyfriend - 18-19
>her friend introduces her to someone - 19-21
>takes a break from relationships for a while then meets you

So you're bad at math too? How does 3 previous relationships INSTANTLY EQUAL 30 YEARS OLD WOAH!!!!!!!
You have a reductionist and cynical view of the world, it's disgusting. You have some problems you need to work out. You repeatedly assume the worst in everyone.

As long as she has legitimate reasons for breaking up with her ex boyfriends, seems like a good person, and has a good credit score, I see no reason not to pursue that relationship.
Meanwhile you'd have me date a young 18 year old who I have nothing in common with and who I can't verify is any good at being an adult and making good decisions because she has no history of that yet, basically taking a total gamble on that person and investing everything into something that has a high chance of not working.
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>>41570225
>>41570253
>>41570436
>posting MGTOW strawman comics
When I see this I know the person is beyond redemption
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>>41570510
>4 failed relationships already by the time she meets you

Yeah great track record you fucking cuck. But yeah I'm sure she was just "exploring herself" aka taking the entire football team at once.
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>>41570520
Is this level of autism and /r9k/ bullshit a reportable offense?
pic related: my captcha
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those comics are hardcore as fuck
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>>41570555
must be hard for you not to have a downvote button
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>>41570557
they're not even the tip of the iceberg. this guy is fairly mild. spend some time on certain threads on /pol/ and most of /r9k/ for the novelty, you'd be surprised.
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got an appt with the GP doc to get my bloods. if my shits fucked I'll try for TRT or use it as a baseline before I cycle. last time I got bloods they didn't order enough shit so my results are basically useless

I'm thinking to request Test (Total/Free), LH, FSH, TSH, Estrogen and Estradiol along with the standard Cholesterol and shit

should be good? he's not an endo so I have to tell him what I want ordered then he can give the approval thru insurance

thanks lads. you've all educated me in some way on this journey
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>>41570585
no thanks. my biggest fear is that Im one layoff and bad breakup from becoming one of them
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>>41570610
then don't, it's a rapid downward spiral. I'm settled enough in my life to just treat it as curiosity, but the mindset pulls people in like crack if they're sensitive to such (which admittedly quite a few people on this site are). it's both heinous and fascinating tbqh
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>>41570585
>>41570610
>>41570629
Keep whiteknighting women on the internet it really turns them on.
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>>41570629
everyone is the sum of their experiences. All that separates you from a homeless crack addict is circumstance
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>>41570719
ok

>>41570730
fair enough. I can't deny I'm glad I don't have it worse.
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>>41570719
yeah that makes sense, they're white knighting women to get laid in a thread that has exactly zero women
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>>41570744
im a girl
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>>41570756
pre or post?
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>>41570763
both
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is tren ace even worth running at 250mg/week - 35mg/day?

would it even have any effect?
lowest i've seen is 350mg/week
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>>41570756
post clit
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>>41570768
THIS GETS MY NOGGIN JOGGIN
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>>41570786
>jogging
>on steroids

lmao
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>>41570789
I SAID MY NOGGIN NOT MY WHOLE BODY

also I'm surprisingly gucci with moderate intensity runs (if not on tren kek), for the record
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>>41570775
Tren is powerful stuff, you can run 200mg tren e and see results.
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>>41570397
work on your mobility boyo if you can't pin lats
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>>41558588
heres what i do:
>3 cups of white rice ,cooked with coconut
>fry up two onions, with one tablespoon of ground garlic and one tablespoon of ground ginger(ginger reduces farts) with 1 tsp of sugar (sugar optional, but it helps the onions cook faster), cook until golden, then add two tins of chopped tomatoes to the pan
>add 300 grams of mince(whatever meat you want, just not fish(you can use tuna though), i use beef)
>add a large pinch of basil, a teaspoon of salt and a teaspoon of ground chili
>cook until the sauce is no longer watery, then put it on the rice in some Tupperware.

this is around 3000+ calories , i eat it for breakfast before the day begins, if im still hungry i will eat some store brought food, or have a protein shake, ginger is essential otherwise the gas will be so unpleasant that it will actually hurt you, in total it takes an hour to prepare a days food, and it is very cheap to do
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>>41559038
tren and hcg?
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>>41569390
Yolo
>>41569429
Thats one im not familiar with ill look into it. Ive already made some wprkout adjustments. More hiit more hills. Considering nigger riggin up some bunjees and add resitance to box jumps. Really want that old vert back. All that plus tren surely i can add a few inches
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>>41571249
sounds good, besides the tren, not my first choice for athletic mastery to say the least :') but keep on keeping on, I loved dunking with the nogs before my injury.
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>>41571183
tb500 and trest
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i posted my diet what do you guys think?>>41571176
ive been eating that for around 6 weeks now.
i dont understand why you guys are so worried about getting fat, if you get fat then work harder, its very simple
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For 50mg dbol ed do you guys split am pm or just all pre workout?
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>>41559204
I'd fuck that man.
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Would the nolva and adex I get from a "research lab" type website be as reliable as getting them from who I got my Test E from? Granted i dunno if my Test is good yet since I don't wanna start without my AI and pct lined up (although everywhere I looked gave it good reviews so I'm sure it's fine), but every time I find a research type site that sells what I need, each one has at least one or two forums posts complaining about their stuff being bunk.

pic related
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Hey guys,
Me and my bro were going to start our first cycle but after the first injection, which almost made him pass out, he quit on me. I thought I was gong to be flying solo but he came back with some new stuff I never heard of. Basically it is a suppository, which is supposed to be better for your liver because it is absorbed in your large intestine instead of your small. Has anyone heard of this? I helped him with his first dose, they are a bit tricky to get in. Are these safer than injecting?
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>>41571532
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>>41571542
Why did mike split with bell?
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>>41571513
your UGL probably gets his AI raws from the same place as he gets his gear raws. If the gear raws arent bunk I don't know why the AI would be.
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>>41571532
>It is a suppository

You know what, I'll bite. What was the suppository called, anon?
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>>41571564
That's a good point. My original plan was to go with the research lab stuff because it's cheaper... But it's probably best if I go with the more trustworthy, lil more expensive stuff. I'd rather not be an idiot and gamble on stuff I'll be putting into my body.

Thanks Mr. Anon.
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>>41571566
Its like stanzolone? I remember thinking he said stands alone and made a joke about it. It is normally taken orally but too much of it is broken down by the liver (and toxic to the liver) so the suppository is supposed to be more effective and better.
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How long does it take for your test levels to spike after your first pin?
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>>41571558
Bell put out a video saying that Mike wanted different things than ST did going forward, and that they had a long talk about it before mutually deciding to split.

Whatever that means.

The world may never know. I think Mike ended up signing with someone else just recently... Barbell Brigade? Can't remember who it was.
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>>41571532
holy kek, this is real:
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/testosterone-propionate-suppositories.134302559/

this is the most /fit/ fucking thing i have ever heard of, litterally un-ironically violating your anuses for gains, they are only 40mg a pop as well, which would mean you are going to have to shove 12.5 suppositories a week up your ass to run a 500mg cycle.

>n-not gay though
my sides are in orbit
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>>41571630
i read that with test, you begin to really begin to feel it after the fourth week, which is why many people kickstart a cycle with an oral, idk though i havnt taken the plunge yet , Dylan Gimelli makes the most sensible videos on you-tube concerning steroids
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>>41571645
Holy shit I thought it was b8, 10/10
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>>41571645
I need this in my life immediately

brb frantically cramming a gram's worth of test into my asshole just for the roaring keks I'll have before and during (probably less so afterwards)
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>>41571625
>anal winny
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>>41571660
>Dylan Gimelli makes the most sensible videos on you-tube concerning steroids
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>>41571645
for fuck's sake. This time I can say for sure science has gone too far. I don't have to ask.
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>>41571645
But are they safer? My friend got 10 of them. You take two the first day then one the next then two the next and continue until the last two days where you just take one each day. The tricky thing with them is you have to push them in past both muscles (I didn't realize there were two rings) so they are difficult to do on your own.
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>>41571645
>tfw ex pin (now suppository) bro foams nearly passes out from screaming N-NO HOMO at the top of his lungs while he shoves a fistful of test wrist deep into your anus
this is it. my life can only go downhill from this very moment
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>>41571740
butchered that sentence there from laughing so hard. no regrets
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>fat female walks past me
>flash of realization that I spent 5 years in the gym + steroids to finally looks good
>all she had to do was not eat cake every day and she could have a 8/10 body
>she failed to accomplish even that
>she didn't even have to do hard work, just refrain from being a whale

Hm really made me rage
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>>41571701
you can be as dubious as you like, Dylan may not be as big or successful as other bodybuilders, but taking advice from people just because they are large is severe confirmation bias, especially since we haven't yet seen the long-term fallout from the irresponsible use that some of the meatheads on you-tube.

that being said, the main reason why i like Dylan is because he really goes over how to negate side effects and safely run a cycle, i also like the generation iron guy but he is a bit long winded for my taste.

speaking of long winded, WHY DO NONE OF THEM EDIT THEIR FUCKING VIDEOS TO BE MORE USER FRIENDLY, none of them cut out those weird gasping breaths that accompany being bulky
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>>41567818
noted. thanks anon.
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>>41571719
no more, just stop, this cannot be real.

>very difficult to do on your own

well maybe you and your friend need to have an uncomfortable conversation in a changing room. just remember not to make eye contact, and to say no homo afterwards.

as for issues that i can see with it, i would guess that they might give you diarrhea or make you shit, the bio-availability of the testosterone is going to be quite poor unless you clean out your rectum before inserting the suppositories, and you only have ten of them which is nowhere near enough to get you through ten weeks, i hope to god you guys have some nolva and clomid ON HAND.
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>>41571816
So this is our first cycle and we were told for the first cycle you should never cycle with anything other than test and you should do short cycles of 1-4 weeks. We decided to try a 1 week cycle and see how it effects us.

So you are supposed to evacuate before taking them. My friend complained that they made him feel like he needed to shit at first but then it went away in a few minutes (probably just stimulating those muscles) As for the absorption, the large intestine is made to absorb.
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>>41571768
lol safely running a cycle...By selling you fake PCT therapies from the sarms site he runs for 600 bucks
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Which oral should I add to my TRT between my 3 month bloods.
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>>41571942
do you have PCT on hand?
how old are you?
a short trial run is useful to find out if you have any side effects to the actual hormone, but you wont make any decent gains.

beginner cycle for test is 250-400 mg testosterone a week. you will also want to have aromasin to stop the testosterone from converting to estrogen and giving you titties.

unless the hormone is methylated(as is the case with many oral steroids) then it poses little immediate risk to your liver or kidneys.
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>>41571942
additionally, it is never really a clever idea to take advice from the guy selling you gear, his primary objective is to turn a buck, not to keep you healthy
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>>41571960
the objection to the sarms i see many roid users have are remarkably similar to the general public opinion on AAS, one of remarkable ignorance, suppressive sarms should be run like suppressive hormones,that being said there are also sarms which are non- suppresive, which in theory will help maintain performance levels when testosterone levels dip after you come off suppresive compounds.
for example:
cardarine (GW-501516) which helps maintain cardio and fat burning.
and mk-2866 which elevates GH

NEITHER OF THOSE TWO SUPPRESS ENDOGENOUS TESTOSTERONE PRODUCTION AND THEREFORE PERFORMANCE CAN BE MAINTAINED DURING PCT.
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>>41571989
>>41571989
>do you have PCT on hand?
Yes
>how old are you?
25 and 27
>a short trial run is useful to find out if you have any side effects to the actual hormone, but you wont make any decent gains.
That is what we are doing
>beginner cycle for test is 250-400 mg testosterone a week. you will also want to have aromasin to stop the testosterone from converting to estrogen and giving you titties.
The 10 pills equals exactly 400mg
>unless the hormone is methylated(as is the case with many oral steroids) then it poses little immediate risk to your liver or kidneys.
Okay, cool to know. Doesn't the liver break down the testosterone too? That was another reason the suppository was supposed to be better, it is by passing the liver completely so no damage and no conversion.
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>>41572060

keep moving those goalposts Dylan
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>>41571942
>you should do short cycles of 1-4 week
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>>41572071
sorry i meant to say for "ten weeks" on the end of my sentence.

your butthole is going to be loose son, probably going to be a good idea to reassess your understanding of hetrosexuality if your buddy is going to help you
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>>41572071
you should have no problems with your liver or kidneys unless you decide to chuck an oral in your cycle, just remember to stay hydrated
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>>41572088
We assumed you were dead from a heart attack
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>>41571267
Ive been hearing that i should do var. any thoughts on that? I always thought var was pretty mild. Like for tinytrip and women
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>>41571645
These have been becoming really popular at my gym. Lots of guys are making the switch.
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>>41571942
the thing about cycling with test is that although it is probably the safest cycle, you might get a bit of water retention
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>>41571750
To be fair have you seen the tdee of a 5'2 woman? 700 cals a day for a mild cut i cant even imagine
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>>41571942
"Another delivery system that never achieved widespread popularity (outside of San Francisco) is rectal administration, via suppository. Too bad, too, because it works pretty well. You avoid the first pass effect, and a dose of only 40 mg can cause a boost in serum T that lasts about four hours. Nasal application has also been investigated. You can avoid the first pass effect this way, too, but the effects are unreliable and short-lived. Besides, one sneeze, and you've got snot and steroids on your sleeve."
https://www.t-nation.com/pharma/testosterone-replacement

i figured that this is relevant
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>>41570775
Yes it is, currently "cruising" on 175mg test and 175mg tren ace, looking good and getting stronger. Hasn't even fucked with my lipids at this dose. Tren is love.
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>>41572198
i also realised from reading this, that if you workout immediately after having a fistfull of pills shoved up your ass, the strain of working may make you shit yourself
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>>41572123
Not yet.
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>>41572227
What're you running that made your HR so high?
What was it before? Did it ever change on test?
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>>41572244
It wasn't the compounds I'm running that made it so high, I've always had a high heartbeat. I just never realised how high. I've been taking some magnesium and B3 lately and doing some meditation. Hovering at about 91-92. Went to the docs yesterday and he said it was nothing to really worry about.
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So the place where I get my stuff is having a sale, which sounds great... until I realized that the two things I need (adex and nolva) fall under the $100 limit I need to make an order. Considering getting some Letro, since it's relatively cheap with the sale, it'll bump me over $100, and it could be useful as an emergency ai in case I don't do well with the adex.

Does this sound like a good idea, or should I just get 2 orders of adex instead? Or maybe I could just get 2 things of letro and see how it goes.

>tl;dr should I get both letro and adex for ai, or should I just get two orders of one and stick to it?
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>>41572287
>always had a high heartbeat
>running compounds that increase blood pressure and increase the size of the heart

pls dont die b0ss
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>>41572338
I go to paradise now friends.
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>>41572362
hibiscus can reduce blood pressure by a lot, maybe try drinking hibiscus tea
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Is there a place you can buy contacts online without prescription?
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>>41572392
Buying anything requiring a prescription online without a prescription is illegal, anon.
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>>41572440
i thought you were mememing but this is actually true
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>>41572313
>ugl ai
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>>41572459
thatisthejoke.jaypig
But really, dunno. I've been looking for a while as well, so if you find anything plz report back.

>>41572494
I have no idea what this means
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>>41572516
it means youre dumb
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>>41572541
Can't argue with that.

So letro or adex?
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>>41572564
neither. you seem really new dude

get pharma asin, especially for your first time

with adex you can have rebound and grow titties especially if you dont know how to respond

with letro you could snap your shit up really bad because it's a retarded estro nuke. if you want a plan B for titty prevention get ralox
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>>41570629
Fuck off kike
/fitpol/ is master race
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Now that the clomid meme is DONE for I will inject 70mg twice a week of test. Autismo doctor said I can do intramuscular or subq, which is best?

I think I'm gonna start taking some superdrol once I get my test in the mail after I finish up with my 4 weeks of anavar.

Anavar has made me stronger but not much bigger, but it hasn't kicked in fully yet.
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>>41572757
>going from anavar straight to superdrol

rip your lipids
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>>41572702
>you seem really new dude
The fact I've been here for a few weeks makes me feel even more retarded, but anyway.

Pretty much everywhere I've read, small doses of letro are good if you start to get gyno, but I have read that the dosing can be finnicky which is why I asked about it.

As for adex, I was under the impression either adex or asin were fine, but apparently not.Thanks for the info, time to look into more shit.

Is this stuff really that complicated or am I just retarded

>plz be patient I have autism
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>>41572757
Wtf is wrong with clomid for pct I mean it's got it's sides in all
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>>41572769
Doctor said my lipids were excellent uhhh????
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>>41572791
He gave me clomid for TRT, wanted me to take it for 6 weeks then get bloods since I'm young and fertility. I called them and said I had floaters after a week to force them to put me on injections.
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>>41572808
Ah the Vision component...that clomid fucked my vision used to have good sight until I had clomid. Now I'll need glasses.

>tfw when glasses make me sexy
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>>41572866
Gf likes me with glasses but I think it makes me look more feminine/weak. Idk.
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>>41572786
>Is this stuff really that complicated or am I just retarded
it's not complicated, you just have to read

look up compounds and whatever branching medical terms you can find on wikipedia and go from there.
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how long is expected before you physically notice 500mg/w

not visually but in lifts/recovery
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>tfw not getting any other sides from tren other than lethargy

But I'm sleeping like a baby though. No insomnia, no sweats, nothing.
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>>41573095
How's the sex while on tren? Oh.. wait..
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>>41573101
Ha. Funny man.
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How much tren are you running? I'm scared of hair loss.
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>>41572198
so basically sticking stuff up your asshole is prefered by people who are not man enough to stick a needle in there cheeks. seems plausible
>>41572564
stick to adex and get another vial test your 20ml wont last long
everyone here is fear mongering like crazy dont know whats happening to fraud
>tfw 500test 250deca no ai needed

>>41573095
will get you sooner or later
first lethalgy then you get insomnia then you get angry/sad/depressed cause you cant sleep and are tired all the time
tren is like falling in love with the wrong person. first its all great and sweet but you start noticing little flaws till you cant stand her anymore
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>>41573298
>not man enough to stick a needle in there cheeks.
it is literally painless
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>>41571558
Because he's a fake natty and bell doenst stand for that shit.
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>>41572210
>see a guy shoving shit back in his asshole screaming MUH GAINS after a deadlift
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What can I run alongside test to improve my cardio?
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>>41573549
ITPP is the best drug for cardio you can get.
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>>41573549
>>41573573
for normies who cant get a hand on itpp the next best thing every dealer should have is eq
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