/Fat/ General "Scooby keeps making fun of me" Edition

>Going to start losing weight
>Want to see face gains
>shave my head
>shave my beard
>Look like a 6'1 375lb baby
>Sliced my head with the razor
>It keeps bleeding
>Got a nudie calendar to mark off the days I stay on track

I won't disappoint you Ms. May... soon to be Ms. June.

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>>41549387
>he thinks losing weight slowly prevents loose skin

Do I NEED to be in keto to lose weight, or can I just adjust my meals to limit carbs under 50g?

I don't really feel like dealing with keto flu and shit, can I just cut carbs? I've calculated it out and below even 30g has been fine so far

>>41549440
Carbs are mostly empty in terms of nutritional value. They're there for energy, and you don't really need it since you have fat stores.

Restricting carbs will help. Especially just sugars.

Guys remember you NEED to lift or you'll just end up as skinnyfat when you reach your goalweight.

>>41549460
better than fatfat

While I generally sketch my meals out in advance, I typically shift around what I end up eating depending on preference at the time. I'm doing okay but I'm sitting on a plateau, and I don't know if it's because of fuckarounditis, or just a plateau that I have to power through even if I'm tracking everything correctly. So tonight I've planned out everything I want to eat tomorrow, down to the last calorie, and logged it ahead of time. I'm hoping this will keep my discipline up and not let hunger influence my decisions.

>>41549440
>Do I NEED to be in keto to lose weight
Fuck no. But cut carbs to whatever is a manageable level for you, because they do fuck all for satiation and are easy to overeat because of that. Protein, fat, and veggies will keep you full. Eat a little bit of carbs, enough that you aren't craving them or getting keto flu. Low-carbohydrate diets are nebulously defined, but 20g-60g is the criterion used by the American Academy of Family Physicians.

>>41549485
Nah man it's embarrassing you know, I put in all that time eating healthy and doing basic cardio. I should have been lifting so I don't look like someone with klinefelters syndrom.

>>41549460
Lifitng while on a deficit is way harder than lifting while at surplus, or even maintenance. it takes so much longer to recover, especially if you're restricting carbs.

I would recommend cardio for the health benefits, and lifting obviously is fantastic, but it's made even harder at a deficit.

whenever there's free donuts at work, I still usually get one to not look like an asshole, then when everybody is not looking i just flush it in the toilet. fuck u gain goblins

>>41549618
Gonna maek it.

>Go from fatfat to skinnyfat
>5'8, 154lb

I'm going to change to maintenance eating and lift 5 times a week up from 3, with 1 day of cardio. Will this work for evening out?

10 pounds from the sub 200 club

Not gonna make it by start of june like i'd hoped, but oh well

Went from 275 to 206. still got more to go.
Has anyone else made any dick gains? Turns out losing weight has made it grow a bit. there's still some of it inside the fat too.

>>41549460
Isn't cardio just going to negate your muscle gains?

Sickness clearing up, gonna try gym today.

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>go to minor league baseball game sit in front row
>photo fag is walking around taking pictures for the team
>see myself on facebook looking like a fat ass
fuck bros gonna start logging everything i cram down my gullet again.

Do you guys keep notes on what you eat or do you punch it into a tracker app ASAP?

>>41549798
Mix of the two. I'll often make big batches of things and just write down the weights of the ingredients and do the calcs later. When I eat out I always add it to an app immediately with a 20 percent variance. If there is no nutrition info i wont eat there or ill just eat the healthiest sounding item there and assume its all my calories for the day.

>>41549844
that sounds smart I often manage my lunch and breakfast fine but then i forget to input diner at night

>>41549387
keto and fasting
only answer
bye

>>41549981
or to paraphrase; eating less

>>41549981
23:1 IF+keto master race here

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>>41550000
checked

webmshare.com/play/3yyMG

genuinely mad

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>>41550000

honest question to all fat people ITT, what are your shits like?

im an emaciated twig and whenever i try to eat more stuff to get some calories, usually smoothies with oats, milk, yogurt, peanut buttter, etc, it makes my shits loose even thoguh they have a decent amount of fiber in them, and eating this as oatmeal didn't cause this problem. like, loose as in i have to wipe a ton to get it clean and even have to go back later for rewipes

i ask you guys because i know a lot of you have eaten diets with shitty food (fast food, sweets, etc that i never eat) and wonder if your shits were bad too

>>41549440
I've never really fucked with low carb/no carb diets, they make me feel really lacking in energy and lethargic. Just worry about your calories, I've seen good progress with that alone. Don't make your diet harder than it has to be, ever.

>>41549460
If you've never gone on a consistent muscle-building program in your past, you will be skeleton mode regardless. Make sure to begin building muscle once you hit your goal weight for sure though.

>>41550053
Shit to Shower my dude

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>>41550000

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>>41550053
used to be 220 lb and i used to eat fast food on a regular basis, my shits were tougher a bit hard to push, at some point i used to get small pieces of shit stuck inside my anus unable to push them out. Unlike now where they just come out easy and the overall experience is pleasant. I'm not discouraged by shitting anymore

>>41550136
Shitting is nice. I wish I could shit more often.

I'm ill
what will this to do my metabolism?
will my body fighting infection up the calorie burn?

>>41549440
The way that I see it - What do you have to lose? Worst case, it doesn't work for you and you can adjust to how it fits you. Best case, it does and you continue that way. Only thing that matters is that you eat below your TDEE

>>41550144
If you feel gassy it could potentially mean that you've got some shit in there

>>41550000
How long did it get you to get used to it? I'm somewhat struggling with it

>down below 175
>lost a half inch around my waste
>fat starting to get taken from my fat fucking face
>serattus and abs starting to become visible plus traps and erectors popping out
>holy fuck, i have a jawline
but, at the same time, my neck is looking kinda pencil like. hitting neck curls and extensions 3x a week rn, keeping things in the 20-50 rep range

fat fucks

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How much weight lost is too much weight? I'm losing about .7-.8lb a day not really doing anything major besides 2000kcal CICO+IF+keto and walking 10 miles, at about 20 pounds lost in the past 4 weeks

> from /fat/ to /fa/
> feelsgoodman.mp4

couldn't have done it without you guys here in /fat/
we are all going to make it

>>41550357
how big are you? if you're morbidly obese or close to it, you shouldn't be doing any real damage to yourself for now but you also shouldn't try to maintain this pace indefinitely.
try to roughly halve that rate of loss once you're below 30% if male, and half that again once you drop below 15%. when you're in a healthy bf% range, losing 1-2lbs a week is about the max you can expect to lose without losing muscle and strength

>>41550357
That is an insane rate of weight loss. Talk to a doctor or nutritionist immediately.

How much do you weigh anon are you in the 400lb+ range? I don't even know how that's possible, maybe you have a parasite or something

>>41550373
6'5, I wasn't morbidly obese tho, just on the edge of the overweight/obese range at 255

>>41550382
I feel pretty decently great, and I'm making strength gains, able to actually do pullups and starting to be able to hit 35lb hammer curls, I'm going to cut the amount of cardio I'm doing though, fitbit is claiming that I'm burning 3400-4000 average with all the walking

lol fatties

put down the fork, fatso's.

>>41549460
Fatties please, the idea you can't build muscle on a cut in misinformed. Your noob gains come quick and despite being on a permacut my lifts slowly went up. This will also help loads when you're no longer cutting.
I went from 310lbs to 210lbs bodyweight
Bench: 250lb x 6
Deadlift: 365lb x 6
Squat: 295lbs x 6
OHP: 155 x 6

You don't even need to do a strength routine, you can do hypertrophy.

>>41550419
you're doing it wrong

let my sodium intake slip this past week and am now retaining a fuckload of water. any ways to flush it out besides just drinking water?

>>41550401
Burning 3400-4000 per day is not sustainable and could be endangering your health. Seriously if you haven't yet I'd talk to a doctor about what your caloric needs are to safely lose weight. It's possible that the rate you're at more is perfectly fine, but I would be careful. Bigger deficit is not always better for you, remember that you're losing weight essentially by depriving your body of what it needs to maintain stasis.

That being said congrats on the progress you have already made. If you're a real big dude and people haven't noticed yet, they will pretty soon.

>>41550441
run and drink a fuckton of water

>>41550441
You could fast but remember that water weight is not fat weight - it doesn't matter and is entirely temporary. Don't worry too much about what you weigh in at day to day on the scale. Matters a lot less than you think.

I have officially lost my first 20kg as of today.
I'm happy, thats all folks.

>>41550441
nothing thats really worth it. Just drink dat water, and keep the extra water weight in mind during weigh ins so you don't lose motivation

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>>41550480

>>41550136
did you just not take fiber supplements at all?

> only 10g of fiber/day
> shit is like a million cocktail-size wieners
> i need my shit to look like a log

what's the best fiber rich breakfast food? :thinking:

>>41550685
oatmeal and crush some almonds/other types of nuts into it

fucking delicious I look forward to it every morning, even after eating it every day for a year

>>41550685
I like fiber cereal+almond milk+1 scoop whey

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5'11 235lbs alcoholic here


This is it man. Long-story short; I recently realized I was an alcoholic and it's ruining my life.
I used to be super /fit/ and happy, but then some shit happened and it got me into daily drinking of 9-12 beers while playing LoL, every single evening. I thought for so long it was perfectly fine because I have a decent job and drinking beers with video games was a perfectly normal way to relax after work.
Yet it's literally all I do... I slowly became an hermit and haven't had sex in a year

So today I'm going to bed sober. Tomorrow I'm going back to the gym, and then I'll track my progress with a picture and weight every 10 days

w-wish me luck bros...
PS: at 50 days I will reward myself with a fine whore

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>I hurt myself today

Started at 250 and im now 175, i think im gonna make it bros

>>41550795
Please, I would like to know more.
What was your daily calorie goal?
Cardio, lifting, days of week?

>>41550771
go get it my bro

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>>41549387

>>41550802
I kept my calorie goal at 1600-1700, logging in mfp helped alot.
At first i didnt do any cardio or lifting because i was more focused on sticking to the diet. After about two months i went down to 237, which was when i started doing cardio 3 times a week for 30 minutes just running on the treadmill. I started getting into martial arts too 3 times a week so i started losing a bit more. 2 months after that and i got down to 225.
After that idk what happened but i completely changed the way i did everything. I changed the way i ate. (Baked chicken with brocolli and sometimes Poke for lunch) and i started running every morning, working my way up to running 3 miles nonstop and i do martial arts and strength conditioning 4 times a week. I've been doing that for 6 months and i went from 225 to 175, with some muscle so i dont look like flabby. It's been a long journey, 10 months in total, started from august.

I'm eating an English muffin as part of breakfast and I need to cut carbs.

Got any good low carb breakfast ideas that aren't just eggs/omelets?

>>41550771
You can do it man, post here often so you can remind yourself

>>41550857
Thank you for your story. Certainly life style changes are important. 1600 to 1700 seems low for all that activity. I'm doing 1800 right now.

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>ate 6 home-made donuts, 1 small vanilla ice cream cone, 4 knackwurst on buns and a single serving of chips
>blood sugar have dipped below 70 and climbed above 150
>probably still under my TDEE
This new medication is fucking awful.

How many calories would you guys say are in buffalo wings from the local pizza place? I usually get them dry and use Frank's Red Hot instead of their sauce. When I log into MFP, there are a ton of options ranging from like 50 calories each to 200 calories each.

>>41550867
Avocado on toast

>>41549433
Thanks for the response. I tried my hardest but I caved in because it was a special occasion. I'll do my best not to go over again (:

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I can see finish line bois. Less than 10lbs left

>>41550874
Yeah, i changed it when i started doing more strenuous exercising, it became around 1900-2000 a day. You can do it man. Willpower is the most important thing to have

>>41550912
But... You know you aren't done, right? Don't stop just because you made your goal. You've got to remember the lessons you've learned.

>>41550890
If you get them dry and add the sauce, find the calories in the chicken dry and add the sauce.

>>41550890
>When I log into MFP, there are a ton of options ranging from like 50 calories each to 200 calories each.
You always pick the highest calorie one, so 150-200 each.

anyone here run......

>>41550943
learned so much about nutrition during the journey, senpai. with that said, I am pretty much confident I'll go back to my old flabby self

>>41550959
ill not go back*
god damn it

>>41550000
Same here.
Going to try 4/3 caffeine life

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>>41550053
I eat lots of veg and cabbage
2 3 times a week I'll get a no wipe needed shit , feels good
look in to gettting your microbiome in better shape , eat probiotics

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>>41550352
sup

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WHY IS NOT EATING SO HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD FUCK GOD DAMMIT I DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT DOING IT HALF THE TIME I JUST GRAB SOMETHING WHATEVER AND EAT IT IT'S LIKE IT'S BECOME A SECOND NATURE TO JUST KEEP EATING

FUCK
DAMMIT
FUCK

>>41550954
No I like my knees

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>don't eat much all day
>get to snack it up while i watch anime

best feeling desu

>>41551134
squeeze in some veggies for your weeb snacking! I enjoy nibbling on kimchi or dipping veggies in sweet chili sauce(this is probably weird, but you can do ranch or w/e)

Down to a 40 lbs loss. Feeling really happy! Finally maxed out a machine, so strength is still going up (yeah, >machine, i know) even at 1500 deficit.

Fug I don't know how people skip breakfast. I usually eat 900 calories before work and then skip lunch instead.

>>41550793
>All dat sodium

>>41551141
sounds like a good idea
a 300g bag of carrot sticks is cheap
add some dipping sauce and you can eat the entire bag if you want

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>>41551134
>95g of protein

>>41551141
kimchi is a good idea. i have some kimchi mix from daiso but i've gotta get the vegetables and get around to making it

>>41551141
Ranch is too many calories.
Fat free italian dressing or balsamic vinaigrette are the only things you're allowed to dip veggies in.

>>41551169
It's a habit frankly. I skip breakfast, eat a shitload for lunch and generally a light snack for diner.
Then again I'm French so you do tend to have time to eat on the mandatory 2 hours lunch break.

>want to lose weight
>but can't exercise because of fragile bones
This is the worst. Is it really possible to lose weight just by being on a good diet?

>>41551257
how did you miss it?
it's at the top of the page with a running raptor right next to it

>>41551283
I implied I already started my diet.

>>41551306
Then decrease your caloric intake.

What do you consider exercise? can you walk? walking is actually very good exercise.

>>41551314
a girl at college had brittle bone disease
she had to use a wheelchair

>>41551186
assuming he is 250-300, he needs 0.5g protein per pound. so he should be eating 125g-150g a day.

>>41551314
My bones are genetically very fragile. If I run for one minute, my right knee starts hurting (I damaged it a long time ago because I wasn't aware of my poor genetics yet). Standing and walking normally is alright, but after standing up all day, I start feeling light pain in my knee in the afternoon and it gets worse if I don't take a rest for one day. So I can't even take a walk for a couple of hours.

>>41551348
is it osteoporosis?

Did anyone else just "calories in/calories out" their way to weightloss?

Seriously I hit up a dietician, swapped out my regular meals for healthier options (nothing crazy, just stopped my lazy "pasta & microwave" diet and started eating rice/oats/fruit smoothies/etc), still allowed myself to eat crap food once or twice a week when I was out and about and nothing healthy was around.

Dropped 20kg over a year or so. Started running, did 20 or 30 minutes a day on the treadmill while watching TV shows, and within 6 months I'd lost the last 10kg. Now I'm down to a 22 BMI (from 29.5). Still in skinnyfat mode, but gym is obviously the next step.

I guess what I'm saying is that I see people with all these intricate diet plans, calculating calories for each little thing they put in their mouth, worrying about staying in keto or what the fuck ever, and it seems like they just overwhelm themselves and crash out every time.

Maybe simple is the way to go?

Not /fat/ related but I can manage to lift 30kg with no problems today, before I could barely balance a 10kg barbell.

Also 93kg today compared to 103kg I was in mars.

>>41551391
lost over 140lbs just eating less
nothing else has changed, not what I eat, just the amount

>>41549387
Lost 50kg and gained some muscles, feels nice and I get a lot more attention but I still have loose skin on my belly and ass and some stretch marks, what do?

>>41551403
Over head press*

>>41550793
You eat like a fucking child.

>>41551408
Surgery is your only option sadly. If you live in a first world country that has socialized Healthcare you can get that surgery for free because lose skin can cause infections.

>>41551412
you act like one

>>41550793
>over 1000 calories in snacks
dude you can eat like an entire jug of yogurt for under 700 calories and be full all day

>>41551385
Fortunately it isn't, my bones are just weak. I can't even last on a supposedly low impact elliptical trainer.

I started a diet two weeks ago and I try to be very careful about eating proper nutrients but I still haven't seen any results, I'm worrying about whether or not I can really lose weight. According to sites, I burn more than 1500 calories a day even if I spend the entire day sitting, but I'm under the impression I only burn 750 calories. I mean, I mostly stay completely still all day long.

I know spot fat losing is a myth but how can I get slimmer legs, thighs and calves?

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>>41550793
what the fucc

>>41551452
Sounds like you need to start GOMAD

>>41551452
>According to sites, I burn more than 1500 calories a day even if I spend the entire day sitting, but I'm under the impression I only burn 750 calories

are you a woman? this post reeks of the "feelings over facts" mindset that female fit users often post with

>>41551457
lower your bf%. i have the same problem
however, when i was skinny i remember people commenting how big my calves are. so im still probably fucked regardless of what bf% im at

it looks good if you're a body builder tho

>>41551467
No, it's actually the opposite? I'm asking others questions since I don't see any results and talking with others can help, I think it's normal not to immediately trust sites just because they give off the feeling they are right?

>>41551496
Did you ever stop and think you're not counting calories correctly? Because most the time that's the real issue.

However you do live a truly sedentary lifestyle, so your TDEE will be low. Can't you just wiggle around in place or something?

>>41551496
you absolutely can lose weight with no physical activity, but couldn't you swim? that's essentially zero impact

>>41551457
Lower your body fat by eating less and do squats and standing Calf raise

>>41551457
lower bf, start running. Running gives you nicely shaped legs

>>41551550
Swimming would probably be worse since I would have to use my whole body's joints. I don't think I would have enough stamina anyway.

>>41551548
I make sure to absorb the proper amount of calories and the proper nutrients.
>Can't you just wiggle around in place or something
I thought about it kek, I actually tried that since it sounds easy but it turns out it's ten times harder than refraining from overeating, just give a try.

Do you know of a physically demanding activity that minimizes as much as possible the use of joints?

>>41551688
>how do I move without moving
ya got me

>>41551688
Swimming but in shallow water. Will allow you to move with very low impact. Are you wheelchair bound?

If you can walk you can slowly waddle in water. There is much less weight/strain on your joints underwater. You can wiggle there for a long time.

>>41550420
This.

Fatties, please don't fall for the memes. Always lift.

I went on a suicide cut (187 lbs. in less than a year) and kept/built muscle.

>>41551726
I never thought of that, it sounds like it can work very well. I'll try that method, thanks for being helpful, anon.

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Anyone experienced losing confidence instead of gaining it while making good progress?
I used to be a lot more social, when i wasn't so self-conscious about my body.
Of course every other aspect of my life is improving, but still, will this last until goal bod?

>>41550000
>23:1 IF+keto

I know what keto is but what did he mean with the rest?

>>41551795
Intermittent fasting. Go 23 hours without food, then eat all your food for the day in the span of 1 hour.

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Anyone else doing the Warrior Diet? Just eat once a day and maybe something under 100 calories in the middle if you're gay. Also avoid processed foods but that's a no brainier for any diet that isn't a teenager IIFYM meme. It's nice to only have to look at food once a day.

>>41551900
>Warrior Diet
need quick rundown

>>41551783
Pretty much, because you're thinking to yourself that you're in a position you don't like to be in

>>41549460
Lifting is useless if you aren't eating enough protein.

With that being said, it's not that hard to get 100g of protein on a cut.

Keep it up everyone, we're all gonna make it.

>>41551783
Completely opposite for me. I'm confident enough to wear a speedo now. Before I wasn't even comfortable walking around at home shirtless.

>>41551927
Yeah you really only need 100-150 and that's easy if you have one chicken breast a day. 1g per lb of lean mass is enough.

>>41551994
I just go by BW in kg*1.5 desu.

>>41552003
That's good too but for super fat fucks it gets too high.

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>>41549440
What do you think happens when you cut with a relatively high carb intake? Your body says "nope too much carbs I'm not gonna burn fat to make up the deficit"?
Stop listening to retard memers who read a couple of livestrong articles and think they know about nutrition like >>41549456 >>41549496

You need to cut calories, this is easiest to attain with minimal loss of food volume by limiting fats.

>eat some slices of cheese (overshooting for 200g and 800kcal) and 2 slices of jamon (100kcal overshoot) as only meal because lmaosleptin

Fug. Not even hungry weirdly enough.

>>41552010
That should be lean BW in that case obviously

>>41552152
similar
>wake up
>11am
>shit too late from breakfast, I'll wait until dinner
>play vidya
>2pm
>shit, missed dinner, might as well wait until tea time
>go for a run
>more vidya
>8pm
>shit, better eat something
>chicken sandwich and a miniroll
>internet until 2am
>go to bed
>repeat

>>41552212
>neets

Ay least I will lose more weight nkw

>>41552231
it's my week off

I've been eating 1200cals for a long while now. But in the last few weeks my appetite has declined and it's being hard to reach 1200cal a day. I usually stay around 1000. Am I going to die? I take vitamines and don't feel sick so far but how real is it that you need to eat over 1200 or horrible things Will happen? I am a small girl if it matters.

>>41552467
>1000kcal
>small girl
nothing unique there. Im a big guy (for you) and I eat around 1000kcal now and then

>>41552467
not eaten over 1k in a day for over 6 months
I'm fine
>you're not counting properly
if anything I'm overestimating

>>41552467
1000 for a small girl is normal on a cut.

>>41552467
>/fat/
>small girl

>>41552503
>>41552508
>>41552511
Thanks, its just hard to find information on low calorie diets without it being filled with "you are gonna die and develop an ED" tier stuff
>>41552585
I am at a normal BMI but i still think i should lose some weight. 14lbs to lose left.

>>41549387
Diet soda, good or bad?

>>41552467

as long you have your period everything should be ok

>>41552672
Are you retarded?

>>41552672
no/very low calories? you can sip that a little bit but it destroys your teeth

>>41552701
"not as bad as the full-sugar variety" is not a positive quality

>>41549434
Depends on the person.

>>41552672
drink water instead

>>41552731
Yeah it depends on how fucking fat they got.

>>41549387
Only psychotics and homo faggots drink coffee black. Are you both of those things? probably.

>>41552785
That too, but it also depends on their height, age and genes. A young person is much more likely to recover than an old fuck.

I literally don't give a shit about if i'm skeleton mode after i make it, I want to be skinny not a fatso. Anyone else?

>>41552800
Not if they go past the point of no return. Thats what's different for everyone, and yes age/genes play a role. The only thing height does is increase the amount of weight they can carry.

Obviously a 300lb 5'8 man is going to be way worse off than a 6'4 300lb man. Genes or not.

>>41552819
Nope I want to be strong and have muscles. Already getting there.

>>41552819
I want as little fat on me as possible
nothing else matters

>>41552793
>homo faggot
objectively not possible
i've said no homo every single time my bf (best friend) penetrated me

Help me /fat/, I'm about to go the gym in an hour and I have the unresistable urge to FAP

>>41552819
In theory I'm against that but I find it hard to exercise lately with motivation. When I went to the gym I got fat since I fell for the memes. I could do pull ups a lot but I never do.

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>>41552851

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I WANT A CHEAT DAY

SO BAD

I havent been eating any junk food (mcdonalds/pizza/kebab) etc for 6 months.

Planning a cheat day this Saturday, what should I get?

>Reach obesity
>Research and find out about candida, fungus, nutrition and general health
>My mind just clicks and I get this unnatural invincible motivation

Knowledge is power, anons. It really, really is. Once I learned about what my body does with those nutrients I started seeing fast food and sweets as literal waste / poison. Forget about motivation or self-help, all you need is to be informed and for your mind to go *click*. Dieting is no longer something I do for 2 months, this is a lifestyle. I'm on week 2, feeling a snowball effect of health and weight loss. It's so fucking easy

>>41552885
You should get liquor

>>41552885
A few mcchickens, some tendies, chinese buffet, and maybe some greasy pizza

>>41552890
>I'm on week 2
Wow it's fucking nothing

>>41552885

That is your intestinal fungus craving for some cheat carbs or some sugars, it's like a parasite is trying to get you to cheat. You don't need it, you know you don't. Don't be mind controlled by your intestines and your gut flora. Be controlled by your vision of who you want to be. One cheat day is OK... Yeah, but so is NO cheat day at all. That's even more OK.

>>41552885
You can have a cheat day senpai, just do a 24-36 hour fast the next day.

You should be doing that at least once a week anyway. You ARE doing that, right?

>>41552909
>Mind controlling bacteria
bro science

>>41552906

Yeah. I realise words have no value, actions do. For the first time in my life I feel like I actually want to live like this. What's a good measure of time to set as a milestone?

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Just recalculated all the shit I ate today

>still under the deficit
>nice

>>41552912

Honestly yes, it's bro science. But it does fit the description. You don't need a cheat day, it's your body being used to the carbs that's asking you for more. That's my opinion anyway

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>>41552033
partial credit anon
yes calories need to be cut
but you have to increase your memes
only then can true happiness begin

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>>41552689
no , you

>>41550053
>they just come out easy and the overall experience is pleasant. I'm not discouraged by shitting anymore

This should be the new /fit/ tagline.

>>41552912
Shit's real, dawg. If your microbioeme has grown on a substrate of grease and fat for decades, it'll take time to acclimate it to new materials.

>>41552885
Bro you just gotta eat raw vegetables until you forget what chocolate tastes like. Soon you'll think cucumbers and brie is the most delicious snack.

Are fitness instructors a meme? I'm thinking about going to sign up at a gym and get one.

Is one of these UFC gyms good in AUS or is that a meme too?

>>41552937
>there are people who believe this is healthy food

>>41553090
it is

>>41553095
is not

>>41553095
Even apples with peanut butter is healthier than that steak tips monstrosity

Bro tier is when you eat raw garlic and kale without batting an eye

>>41552920
If you hit a few months with continual progress you can feel good, but not complacent.

had a relapse last night. Need to figure out how to fucking snuff this shit out.

>>41553154
if you're hungry, eat

>>41553242
fuck that bullshit, I'm on a deficit. If I'm hungry and I'm at my goal, it needs to be snuffed out. No one made it to something difficult without willpower.

>>41551336
thats not how it works at all. its .8 to 1 g of protein per lb of lean muscle. He isnt 125 lbs of lean muscle.

>>41553253
Yes, but lean mass is more difficult to know offhand. Typically it almost always falls under 100-175g of protein.

Also it's lean mass, not just muscle mass. Anything that isn't fat.

>>41553247
you're getting hungry after you've already eaten a days worth of calories?
so it's a night time thing?

just leave a cushion of a couple hundred kcal spare in case you need it

>>41553296
my daily limit is 1450. I don't really have a lot of wiggle room.

>>41553307
don't know what to suggest
I rarely top 1200, never eat more than 400 in a single meal and I don't ever seem to get hungry

git gud I suppose

>>41551740
>187 in less than a year
Holy fuck anon how ?

>>41549664
Just cut to skelly and begin bulk.

What's your maintenance and how many calories do you eat per day?

My maintenance is 2600-2700 and I eat 1000-1200kcal

>>41553338
Suicide cut. That's roughly 15lbs a month but depending on your starting point it's manageable.

>>41549720
If you're on a cut you won't be making muscle gains anyways. Cardio also doesn't burn as much calories as you think.

>>41553276
at 300lbs of fat he is probably 125 lbs of lean muscle. he doenst need as high as 175g of protein, for a very long time.

>>41553362
>If you're on a cut you won't be making muscle gains anyways

False.

>>41553371
Which is why I said typically one should fall in the 100-175 range. You should always be aiming for as high protein diet without literally only eating chicken.
But one chicken breast, some Greek yogurt with a scoop of whey, and you're pretty much good.

>>41553392
just an idea, but tell him why he's wrong and he might actually take you seriously

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Want to ask the day people
>Doing CICO+IF+keto as a 6'5 240 pound man that started at 255 only 24 days ago

am I losing too much weight? I feel pretty great, lots of energy especially when I go for walks, walking about 7-9 miles a day with bodyweight/dumbell training every other day, because of this fitbit is saying I'm burning up to 3500-4000 a day on a cutting RDI of 2000. Should I up my calorie intake or should I continue as is?
I don't feel that walking this much with weight training is high intensity is harsh or unpleasant at all and losing about 5 pounds a week while gaining just a little bit of strength is a sweet bonus for me.

>>41553406
>tell him why he's wrong

The things that he says are not true.

>>41553429
I hope you're trying to look a fool
can't assume anything these days

>>41553406
I've gotten noticably bigger muscles and stronger despite being on a permacut. I assure you I'm not a genetic freak.

>>41553416
Wow you managed to cram almost every dietary meme into your eating patterns, add IIFYM paleo PSMF in there and you got a complete package.

It's really time to keto man :/

Who /UltraFat/ here?
Down to 310 from 408

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Good morning fellow fats.

Did you eat your oats and do an AM workout?

>>41550420
Are you still around, liftinganon? Would love to know your program.

>>41553351
2900
2187
6' 172lb

>>41552885
What are you craving the most? I mean, as long as your below your TDEE, you're fine. Just don't eat all three at the same time

>>41553351

2000
1400
5'9

>>41550053
Doing two meal replacement whey protien shakes a day and lean meat meal at night. My shits range from soft sandy diarrhea which comes out with the force of a shot gun to hard tiny twigs which are denser then a black hole and rip my ass coming out leaving bright blood to wipe off. It is the former much more then the later thankfully. Usually get the denser ones when I don't drink enough water.

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Has anyone noticed that DNP anon hasn't posted in over 2 weeks?

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>doing lunges
>about tp fall over everytime im at the lowest point of the lunge
What the fuck why is my balance so shit?

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>>41553113
those were ribs , very tasty and filling
I didn't finish the side dish
slightly constipated this morn and weight went up , prob just water weight
as they were salty as fugg

>>41551415
Or if you don't intentionally infect your loose skin and then they have to take it off.

Fixing to check out this gym on Saturday. I'm getting excited since my at-home workouts have been getting easier

>>41553537
It's kind of hard to post. It's a bro split that has testing weeks and deload weeks in the routine. Few weeks at 8 reps, 6 reps, then 4 reps. It's Alan Thrall's Beginning program if you're interested. 4x a week required and you can't miss days.

>>41553351
2650

1000-1800

>>41553625
Angle your foot inward when you lunge for better balance. I still have to and I lunge with 135-155lbs on my back.

>>41553416
the first month or so on keto will show amazballz loss in weight , it will slow down . sounds like you're doing great

>>41549440
Keto is great, feeling unwell isn't long term with it.

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>>41553448
the more memes the better the progress

>>41549595
I've found taking cold showers helps with recovery and soreness

>>41553644
>Alan Thrall's Beginning program
That's all I needed, thanks.

TRAIN UNTAMEEEEEDDDDD

I have been doing the program in the sticky (sean10mm's stripped 5x5) and have been making gains despite eating 1000 cals a day, so whoever says you can't build any muscle on a cut has never been fat, cutting, and lifting at the same time. My back, leg, chest, and arm muscles are all visibly bigger/more defined, despite the fact that they still have fat all over them.

Gonna check out that Alan Thrall program. Thanks anon.

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>>41553462
I started at 350
down to 310
I can see the change and my clothes are baggy , feels good man

>>41553684
No problem. I lift at his gym so I'm shilling hard but yeah my body is 100x better and it's obvious I lift just by looks now. Not lifting as a fatass cutting should be a sin. Wasting fantastic noob gains and muscle development, and raising your TDEE.

>>41550771
gl

>>41553713
That's awesome. Do you have to pay for the program? Is it something I can do in my home gym or is there a bunch of shit that you only find in a real gym like box jumps and shit?

So I lost about 35kg and became skinnyfat, so I started lifting. I'm seeing ok gains, but I want to drop that last bit of stomach fat. If I start on a huge calorie deficit again, will I lose all my gains?

>>41553713
>>41553722
Basically, I have a squat rack, bench, barbell w/ weights, dumbells, lat pulldown, and an elliptical. Will I need other shit besides this to do his program? I do see it costs $12, which I think is fair, and I wouldn't mind supporting him.

>>41553739
Its cheap and has a ton of info. You can probably find it free somewhere. It's a 16 week program you can keep doing over and over, it has a print out to track all your lifts and information on how to do some, as well as alternatives if you can't front squat for instance.
You need to be able to do the big 4. OHP, Diddly, Squat, Bench. Pull-up are on there but I replaced them with latpulldown till I could do 5 pull-ups so you're good there. Some dumbbell work.

Lunges may be the only difficult one but you can do standing ones.
Dips too. You may need to do assisted idk how strong you are.

>>41549420
Make your own nudie fat calendar

>>41553806
Yeah, I can't into dips yet. Is there another movement I could sub in?

Have you met/worked out with Alan, or is his gym crazy?

>>41553050
pls reply

>>41553824
Yeah I've been there during his recording and talked to him plenty of times. He manages the gym alone, cleans everything himself. Some big and strong ass mofos lift there. My lifts are poverty tier when they'd be considered decent at a commercial gym. Every is helpful and nice and doesn't give a fuck what you lift.

The strongman equipment, multiple power racks, and multiple platforms is what sold me.

And no. Dips are one of a kind. You should absolutely find a way to do assisted dips till you can do them. Bands should be pretty cheap.

>>41553050
There are good ones but there are a lot of bad ones.

Is it normal to wake up hungry? I've started trying to actually lose weight and had like 1100 calories (I'm 168 lbs and 5'6) and I woke up very hungry. I don't recall when I've lost weight before waking up hungry except when I had a very low calorie day (I thought I could get away with eating 800 calories that day but I woke up). What do you to to prevent that?

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day 3 of keto- I'm no longer hungry all the time or craving carbs
I've never felt this good

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Help bros,
how do I into calorie counting? Which programms/ apps do you use?

>lost 40-50lbs
>noticeably thinner
>nearly at my target weight, 150lbs at 5'9" King of Manlets
>still have horrendous love handles and belly fat
pls halp

>>41554018
That pic is disgusting

As for apps, I think most people use My Fitness Pal. It's pretty good.

>>41553986
What can I do to make sure I don't get Jewed hard?

>>41554045
Don't get one.

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>>41552885
Don't do a cheat day
You'll let yourself go.

>>41554018
did you even bother reading OP?

>>41553964
Yeah, I just don't have the equipment in my home gym to do dips... I'll see if I can find a dip rack or some shit.

Thanks for the help anon. I just bought the program, and I'm excited to get started. I did squat/BP/lat pulldowns on monday and my quads are feeling it today, but still going to start with squat day tonight.

>>41554122
The first week is test week. You might want to be well rested for it.
Your testing determines your working weight the following weeks.

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>losing weight, great genetics, and just a little bit of jelqing got you here

I'm turning into ultra chad

Just found out my yams are actually a type of sweet potato. Should i be putting sweet potato in mfp now instead? Is there a difference between the different kinds of sweet potatoes?

>>41554166
So I could get something like this to do dips at home:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Black-Mountain-Products-Heavy-Duty-Stand-3000-lb-Rated-Dip-Station/47346090

Problem is, I know for a fact I can't lift my 275lbs of flab like that yet. What exercises should I do to work up to dips? Is it mostly triceps?

I'm sure you're right about being well rested, but I really don't want to take another few days off. I'm going to be on this program for the next 8 months at least, which would be two full cycles, and there are multiple rep tests, so I'm alright if my first squat test isn't 100%.

>>41554212
chair dips??

>>41549387
I weighed in and I have lost a total of about 25 lbs. Down from 260 to 235.
It feels fucking phenomenal and I gained an inch in height too. I dont think thats related though.

>>41554254
Could be, less weight makes it easier to stand up straight which can give height gains.

>>41553462
>>41553707

was heaviest at 420,
was 380 about 4 weeks ago when i started getting serious
366 now

keep it up guys we can make it

>>41553926
I feel that if you read and watch vids you don't need a trainer

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>>41554279
nice , were all gona make it !

>>41554212
Bench.
Incline DB bench (in the program)
Skull crushers.
Shrugs.
Losing weight, honestly.

Alan says you can add any arm assistance workouts you want if you still have gas in the tank. Arms recover much quicker than legs.
I added skull crushers and bicep curls. Also conditioning and farmers walks/forearms work for grip strength on diddlys.

Yes that'll work if it supports you. Just need a band for assistance. Honestly nothing compares to dips besides straight benching and even then it's not the same. Buy that dip thing, find assistance bands. They can be used for pullups too, another difficult fatty slayer workout.

I was able to do 10 dips without assistance at around 240lbs so it isn't easy.

>>41554262
Thats pretty cool to know. I guess I just didnt notice. But really its personally incredible to me how much 25 lbs has changed me, feel better mentally and physically. Im starting to think people understate exactly how much weightloss will improve your self image. Im still fat but I feel better than when I was fatter.

>Ramadan in two days

I don't know how many calories I should eat in the morning and when I break my fast.

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>>41554378
What does this mean? One set of AMRAP at 80%? Or one rep at 80%?

>>41552800
Still speed of weight loss won't matter. What matter's is speed of weight gain and how long it was under tension.

>>41554452
Skip to the printout version of week 4 it'll make more sense.
He also may have changed it since I bought it.

I just had a dream that I went to a restaurant and ate 4 burgers. Fucking scared me lads though I just wasted all my progress.

>>41554396
There is a reason medical professionals always recommend diet and exercise to people with depression. Nutrition and general health have a huge impact on a persons potential. I have become a better programmer in the last 3 months than I have been for the previous year all thanks to losing weight. My mind is much clearer now and discipline is A+

>>41554490
Oh NVM. It's the pyramid week. Look at the printout for week 4.

>>41554490
Ahh, indeed, makes way more sense now. Progressive increase in weight then last set is AMRAP

>>41552912
It's not bacteria. Just your body. The cravings of pregnant women are usually for foods that contain minerals they are deficient in.

>>41554495
Don't you mean C++ hue hue

>>41553611
Welp he wanted his weight loss shortcut and I'm guessing he got it, nothing melts fat like body decay..

>>41551457
Cut and offer a fatty to zyzz in sacrifice

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>>41552885
>2011
>cheating

shiggy

>>41552819
i'm bi and a switch

if i get skinny i can be /fa/ and be a cute trap

if i get muscular i can attract girls

either one is a victory, but i can't do any of these things being fat

>>41554027
>pls

>>41554628
>i'm bi
I think you mean gay

>if i get skinny i can be /fa/ and be a cute trap
Yes, you're gay

>if i get muscular i can attract girls
Why bother nigga, you gay

>can't do any of these things being fat
truth

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>>41554492
i had a dream about eating a shit bunch of fresh bread and i almost cried thinking it was real

>>41554668
>Why bother nigga, you gay
definitely gay but
i like girls too

>>41554662
Ok, this isn't that hard.

You've lost weight, good for you! You're still fat. Rather, you still have a high bodyfat %. So, you have two options:

1. Bulk up and get on a good lifting program that you stay dedicated to, then cut back down to lower bodyfat %.

2. Continue cutting until you're skelly mode, then bulk up while being on a good lifting program, then cut back down to low bodyfat %.

>>41549713
Not >fat
Just enjoy reading people's stories
I don't know about size but mines gotten more vascular

What's the skinny on Ostarine, brahs

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>>41550771
good boy

>cardio over 450 calories
>lifting and shit
>only ate about 1200kcal
I'm gonna make it bras.

>ate 1000 cal over my maintenance again
It just gets harder and harder to keep my diet nowadays, because every time I eat over my maintenance my lifts go through the roof
Also I'm about 75 kg at 175, so I'm almost considered lean by people around me (upper abs almost visible)
But I still have those fucking fatty instincts, fuck this shit my niggers

>>41549713
It hasn't grown, your fupa has just shrunk. It's still a net gain, though.

>>41554943
That's why you need to learn healthy life style, not just temporary dieting.

is 3 beers twice a week inexcusable?
Never on workout day, and i always keep my deficit, so i'm still progressing, i just feel kind of guilty about it. However, my colleagues are my only social contacts right now, and they're beer people.
>inb4 get friends
i can't i'm either too boring or too much of an asshole for everyone.

>>41554995
Get out you degenerate pig.

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>>41552819
I'm a wannabe trap so yes

Bicalutamide and Progynova haven't wrecked my weight loss gains yet so all is well, I'm almost at my correct BMI, but I'm going to get to skelly mode before putting weight back on so that it redistributes and makes me thiccccccc

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>>41554628

>if i get skinny i can be /fa/ and be a cute trap

>tfw 6'4 and broad shoulders

why even live

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Post 'em.

Little heavy on fruit, but it was a lifting day so I wasn't too mad about the carbs. Scale still went down this morning.

>>41555027
Just kill yourself.

If you really want to be a trap, you have a much higher chance of doing this eventually anyway.

>eat a full piece of P.F. changs choco cake today
>throw up just from the feel of the sugar and chocolate in my throat when i get back to the house
Is this what it's like to change? have i become a monster?

>>41554692
Thanks

>>41549986
Simply "eating less" has a long-term failure rate of nearly 100% so no, keto or at least some form of fasting should be practiced for maximum muscle retention and reduced chance of regain.

>>41554995
Stops protein absorption and still impacts workout days after drinking.

If you're fine with that and still progressing you're good.

>>41555052
That's what it's like to become bulimic

>>41555066
Can you go be retarded somewhere else?

>>41555002
Come on, it was only a question, and i'm only trying to improve like everyone else here.

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hey /fatties/ I'm a chubby 80+kg 1.73cm manlet who's also poor as fuck and can't afford going to gym i was considering running to lose weight since my diet is pretty much non-existant i eat like once or twice a day i gained weight because i was a depressed jobless slob who plays world of warcraft all day
does running helps? and how should i proceed? help pls anons i got a job proposition as a bartender but i gotta lose weight first

>>41555082
And I was giving you the 4chan treatment.
But in all seriousness, bear does have a lot of calories so don't drink too much of it and if you do, eat less on other days.

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>>41555034
Exam tomorrow, I needed the snack. Ate half, felt ill and threw the rest away. I used to be able to devour them, though that's always with a bit of beer to wash them down.

>>41555083
Running helps but it's cardio and will most likely make you hungrier. I dont know if you have ever heard but you'll lose weight if your calories intake is less than calories consumed?

>>41555083
>1.73cm

m8, you're not just a manlet, you're an antlet.

If you can't go to gym, yes, running will help. I would check out C25k app

Also do some body weight exercises. Check out fit/bwg for more info on that.

>>41555083
>does running helps?
It certainly does. 1h of running every 2 days is easily 1,5k calories per week.
>and how should i proceed?
Cut drinks with lots of calories, eat healthy and if you're hungry chain yourself to a chair and drink water.

>>41555083
>stop WoW sub
>sub to planet fitness
but you wont do that, will you, fat ass.
>inb4 i pay with gold
fuck you.

>>41550480
Congrats! I'm getting that weird but good feeling I used to get the first time I lost a decent amount of weight a few years ago. I don't want that feeling to go away. My digi scale shows xxx.x so even seeing just the last x go down everyday motivates tf out of me.

>>41555066
It's like they hit their goal weights or something. Fucking crazy man.


>>41555083
>1.73cm
you're pretty small

Count calories. Read Sticky

>>41555107
Cut him some slack, he's still >5'6 so still a manlet.

>>41550857
Sounds fantastic. That's how it's done. But hell, it's hard for me to get out with 2 infants :/

>>41550877
Steroids?

>>41555163
Just lift the infants m8

>>41551148
Congratulations anon

>>41555172
You got a point there

>>41555104
i live in a mudslum country and ramadan will be somewhere like next week im think of fasting ironically with them i've never had major problems with hunger i can handle it but i will not cut on water that'll be dumb i don't wanna pass out dehydrated under a burning sun
>>41555107
i live amongst sandniggers they're not very tall

>>41555126
yeah i used to pay with gold but i got bored of wow in general so i sold my account to another depressed slob

>>41555207
wow, you use silly willy jiggly wiggly units and still don't understand the difference between cm and m.

>>41555246
haha making fun of simple mistakes is fun

>>41555138
>>41555246
Eh i'm more than fine with being a manlet or whatever can't change that shit, i'm more concerned about my weight

https://youtu.be/MRRkvF_2h9o me ftw

>>41555306
fat fuck

>>41550771
>and haven't had sex in a year

the horror

Motivation where you didn't expect it stories?

>Last day of finals
>Been promising myself two weeks I'd get delicious campus waffle fries at the end
>Last final
>Neckbeard sits next to me
>Smells awful, must be 200+lb
>Chewing on gum to 'help him focus'
>Smacking and slumping noises
>Takes all my willpower to not say 'Chew your cud with your mouth closed you fat cow'
>Finish final, decide to not get potatoes, go home and fry a 10carb onion for my treat instead

There's chubby and there's drinking mountain dew for every meal

>>41552033
Doesn't limiting carbs decrease your appetite by making you feel fuller, though?

>>41555485
In the sense that proteins and fats are more filling and satiating, yeah probably.

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>>41555639
They're not though.

>>41555676
I don't even count vegetables as carbs.

started in january 110kg 6 feet
now im 90kg but i have hitted a plateu
havent lost a kg since two weeks . my diet has always been 1500 calories or less

>>41555807
keep going

>>41555027
Muscular men in women outfit>twigs


No homo just mirin ur gains

Heading to the store right now, is pepsi max and an apple going to ruin my shit?

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>>41550771
Go gettem anon
I believe in you

>>41553636
I dunno if you're a bodybuilder or just fat

If you can't eat a raw garlic clove, you're a pussy faggot

That much I know

>>41555940
Yes because Pepsi is fucking disgusting.

>>41555940
>ruining your body
>picking pepsi over cherry choke to do this
might as well just end your life now.

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>>41555940
>drinking anything other that water
not gonna make it

>>41556150
>not drinking black coffee

what the FUCK

>>41555207
>job proposition as a bartender
>i live in a mudslum country and ramadan will be somewhere like next week

>>41555361

>2014
>354lbs
>burned neckbeard (literally the fucking m'lady meme)
>being really lonely
>no friends
>start to play a flashgame called "Corruption of Champions"
>whatthefuckisthis.txt
>Chose your name
>"I get it, it's an adventure text based game"
>play it because got nothing to do

long story short, this was my last kick to drop over 160lb in 1 year.

who ever thought that an H game could save a life?

>>41554736
bimp