/plg/ - powerlifting general

first for anime

>>41530369
>>41530369
>>41530369
We are actually in here

I miss playing warhammer and eating junk with my fat friends

>>41530374
whos this pajeet

Off to a great start as usual

me on the right, Esmeralda on the left

>>41530422
Doing powerlifting is already a bad start!

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tfw gde

>>41530459
Same

>>41530451
You're a rapist?

>>41530459
not being able to squat 5 plates =/= gde

>>41530498
I disagree

I M I S S P R I N C E S S T R A P P Y

>>41530658
Rare among gdes sure

>>41530710
So would i

actual thread with actual lifting discussion (non Dino thread) here

>>41530369
>>41530369

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Can we all post our favorite picture of Trappy? Here is mine

>>41530770
>>41530770
>>41530770
We are actually in here

Why can't I recover properly?
I can bench 100kg but I just failed 60kg for 5.

I've lost 10kilo and my recovery has been destroyed

>>41530869
>I just failed 60kg for 5
what the fuck

>>41530939
I'm broken :-(

How much strength is it safe to assume I'd lose if I cut 16kg as someone who's been lifting around 1 and a half year /w 320 wilks?

>>41530908
>>41530908
>>41530908

>260wilks are 4 years
I am genuinely thinking of killing myself

Can someone post the project momentum spreadsheet? Couldn't find it in the archive.

Also, how long should wrist wraps be? I'm looking to buy some from Strengthshop, but I dn't really know which ones will be good for powerlifting.

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mixed grip or hookgrip if I dont wanna feel like a cheat

>>41531497
Mixed

>>41531395
longer the better, cast the joint so its stable and cant move = more force can be transferred through it

try punching someone with a limp wrist, doesnt work

assuming this is the real thread

if you hit a new 3RM but the last rep had iffy depth, would you count it? I didnt record it, but it felt high

>>41531707
depends on how hard it was

if it was a grinder RPE10 probally not

>>41531625
90cm is optimal then?

I might buy these:
https://www.strengthshop.de/sleeves-wraps-straps-bandagen-schoner-zughilfen/wrist-wraps-handgelenkbandagen/diablo-wrist-wraps-90cm.html

>>41531720
Im bad at judging RPE, but Id say it was a 9. the first 2 reps were 100% below depth. the 3rd wasnt westside high. maybe an inch or so

Why are powerlifters so fat and ugly?

I don't fit it :(

I squat like 345 for a 1rm. I want to hit 4pl8 asap. Best program for squats?

>>41532321
get on TM asap

>>41530343
So im trying a a mix of the lower body stuff from c6w with the upper body work of nuckols 3x int med bench but i have a dumb question

do i just swap in the nuckols dys where the c6w would have me doing upper body stuff, or do i do them "on top" of each other, even if it means doing a c6w lower body workout on the same day as an nuckols upper body workout?

no, don't do that

>>41532545
>>41532531

i hate plg sometimes

>>41532321
sheiko

I hate plg now

I hate it so much

>>41532954
which plan?

>>41533052

Most relevant plg here.

tfw wasted so much time constantly trying to run a session LP, I think I'm just a genetic dead end

Can't squat more than 85kg 3x5 adding weight every session without form breaking down, maybe I should just try weekly progression instead of reaching 2pl8 with shit form and having to deload

>>41533142
Do you have any Fitness whatsoever? What kind of cardiovascular based you have? Can you perform basic bodyweight exercises? Are you eating and sleeping properly?

Sounds like you're worthless piece of shit personally but maybe there's something else at play

>>41533142
Switch to 3x3 next session where you maintain good form. Try again, if that doesn't work switch to 3x1 and lp till your form breaks down. Retry 3x5 after form breaks down

>>41533243
He's doing baby weight he doesn't need to do 3x1 he needs to do a hundred bodyweight squats a day and fix his unathletic shit

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Just lifted for the first time in nearly two years.

I'm very sore.

AMA.

>>41533201
I'm eating enough and sleeping enough for other lifts although I always feel tired despite everything being fine with blood test.

I don't have any cardio base.

Yes I can do basic movements.

My other stats are:
70kg bench 3x5
150kg deadlift 1x5
72kg bw

Is it possible that I just need to try weekly progression instead of session for squat? I add 2.5kg weekly to bench and 2.5-5kg to deadlift.

I fucked up my leg and doctor after checking it out said I have pulled gastrocenemius + something more and I should off squats and dls for month-half a month

time to up my upperbody gains

benching 3x a week and what more? Im going to do rowing same way following powerliftingtowin or ss style of routine, shit ton of pullups, overhead perssing and arms?

some good routine for this to up my gains?

I also will use this time for a cut as my bf is now 16,4

want to drop down way down to 10,2-10,6

>>41530343
cute

>>41532393
Can some plz answer this. I'm still fairly new to actual programmed, regimented training and I just want to know what's right

>>41533367
Real thread here >>41533052

If you can't recover fast enough to put weight on the bar every day, then you'll have to slow down your progression to once a week, eat more and recover better, or build some general cardiovascular fitness so your body recovers more quickly

>>41533428
Its possible that my genetics are so shit tier that I cant progress every session at sub2pl8?

Does this mean I'll always be weak or can I still reach 4pl8 eventually but maybe with weekly progression?

>>41533478
I have no idea. If you are going to set around day blaming your genetics though then you're probably going to have limited potential anyways

If you don't have a background in manual labor or team sports then you're going to have to spend some time making up ground to manhood

>>41533428
>Real thread here
Nigga that thread has 8 posts in it, this one has 56. Stop sperging.

Currently running sheiko intermediate medium load.
Can I run 37v2 again or should you follow up with 31. Don't want to max since my work schedule is kinda irregular the next couple of weeks.

Can I just add 2.5 kg to 37v2? I def. feel stronger even though I'm kinda overreached. Getting comfy with heavish weights.

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>>41533570

That thread has a picture of a powerlifter and powerlifting related content instead of the Virgin beta pathetic dog picture shit

>tfw kneebola

>>41533652
>Being this insecure

>>41533752
I'm going to tell you A life secret here son.

If you act like a faggot long enough, guess what you are? You're a faggot period

I know it seems cool and hip nowadays to act queer and Nerdy. Do yourself a favor comma don't build habits that you can't break.

The fuck am I reading

>>41532393
replace the bench sets from candito with those from Nuckols, but keep Candito's assistence work.
Don't do upper and lower on the same day.
On week 3 and 4 just put in an extra upper body day wherever you want

>>41533830
Intellectual discussion about the sport of powerlifting

>>41533830
Most of it is a delusional repressed alcoholic homosexual man named Sean

The rest of us like to talk about powerlifting or strength training

And if he says anything about projection, just ask to see his keys

>>41531257
Help pls. If I cut down a weightclass I would be able to set a national record for one of my lifts - that is if I keep my current strength levels.

It's doable if I go full autismo and plan out every single meal, no?

>>41533478
I used to be in the same boat as you.
You have been decieve by the general lifting community and the ss meme.
You have to understand that most people who do SS or other beginner programs and squat 3 plate at the end aren(y like you. They played football or some other sports, are generally athletic, have been lifting casually or years, etc.

If you start out as a skinny un athletic guy, with no experience, SS won't get you to 2 pl8. Because what you need mroe than anything now is muscle, you simply need more muscle mass and SS isn't going to give it to you. The volume is way to low. SS is good for getting people who are already muscalur to effencietly use those muscles. To learn the movements. Those are the guys getting 4 plates after their 'first year', but they have been doing sports their entire life!

Don't get fooled by the fitness community, when starting out skinny and weak progress is going to be slow. YOu will need intermediate routines for wheights that other poeple did in their first weeks. But remember, you just started, you can't expect to make the same progress as people who have been sporting their entire life and are already ripped.

Set more realistic goals.

Take a look at Symmetric strength. Their strength standards and the descriptions of their classification have been very accurate for me so far.
Set realistic goals and enjoy the process.

>>41533906
Probably not if you are Advanced and you have mostly filled out your frame

Good luck trying though

I would recommend steroid assistance

>>41533941
I look dyel af and have only been working out for 1 and a half year but I'm a gifted squatter. My other lifts are shit. SHIT

>>41533881
>repressed alcoholic homosexual boy named Dino

fixed that for you Dino you sad sack of shit LOL

>>41533956
frog?

>>41533984
Would you mind posting some recent lifts? I have heard of your legendary strength status and I'd like to know where you stand in the strength community

Also would there be any chance that you could take a quick picture of your keys for me?

I've heard that you are very wealthy so I am sure that you can take a picture on your phone of very high quality. Thank you much

>>41532393
Would recommend splitting up the work, although doing days 1 and 3 with the lower days and having day 2 as a lighter/recovery day is doable, it's just a lot harder and you won't be able to get as much upper body work in because you'll be exhausted from squatting, benching, then deadlifting in the same day, especially for the first 2 weeks.

>>41534023
No. He's above the national record at his current weight class, isn't he?

>>41534028
Check this out Dino, when you got banned for spamming last night all your posts got deleted

http://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/41516442/

looking at the deleted posts a couple funny things to note

A) asking fat retard about how greg nuckols novice program works (therefore proving you're a weak novice)
B) obsessing over kermit for many posts, clearly inferiority complex on account of him being stronger than you (therefore proving you're a weak novice)
C) Obsessing over me for 3 hours clearly inferiority complex on account of me being wealthier than your entire poverty family put together

>>41533840
I was going to swap out Canditos assistance work and do OHP, Klokov press, dips, shrugs, and possibly cable flies instead

I want nice chest and shoulders :/

>>41532992
none

TM will let you gain 2.5kg a week
sheiko will let you gain 10kg over a 3 month timespan

Do the math

I fell for the sheiko meme once, dont want anyone else miss out on gains

>>41534062
True, that's what I was kind of leaning towards anyways just splitting them up, I just wanted to see what everyone else thought about mixing things together

>>41534078
Who is Dino?

I am merely inquiring as to the strength level of a local Legend. This place has an archive, very neat. If posting here is your favorite hobby in the world I can see where that would be very useful.

How strong are you sir? What does your keychain look like?

>>41534099
listen up dummy dont waste time doing all those assistant lifts

if you bench a lot without an insane arch and max grip you will have a good chest and front delts

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>>41534128

LOL Dino BTFO

>>41534143
Honestly not my post. I have never nor will never run a Greg Nuckols program

>>41534154
was your post dino :(( that and 44 of your other posts in that thread got deleted LOL (mainly you just obsessing over your superiors me and kermit LOL) LOL

>>41533478
At 72kg, it's perfectly normal to stall on LP before you hit 2pl8 squat for 3x5.

Just switch to weekly progression unless you want to gain more weight

wiioops i just btfo of dino so hard we wont be seeing that little dyel kid for a few hours kek

>>41534245
Wow you're awfully defensive of Kermit

Did Raffy sell him to you at a decent price?

I performed some powerlifting today along with some assistance work. How was your lifting day?

if frog was so strong why does he look like shit

>>41530498

Well, it's either that or you are a tremendous faggot that refuses to eat enough and squat properly.

>>41534270
LOL you're running greg cuckolds NOVICE program and asking fat retard on how to run it AHAHAHHAHAHA

no wonder you're so obsessed over me and kermit becuase you're such a weak little BITCH (FACT: see you running a NOVICE program and askin fat RETARD on how to do it) LOL

why are there like 8 threads in the catalog

>>41533367

That every lift is progressing except the squat leads me to believe you aren't performing the squat very well.

Or possibly that you don't have actual weightlifting shoes. If that's the case, shut up and get some actual weightlifting shoes.

>>41534320
This might be the worst projection I've ever seen

>>41534341
Never mind, this is the worst projection I've ever seen. That post genuinely wasn't me. I have no reason to lie. Want to see my keychain?

>>41534353
because this turd Sean likes to shit up the board

brb going to dump a big brown sean in my toilet

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>>41534385
>projection

How's that when I have irrefutable evidence that you're running a novice program

see the attached you weak bitch

>>41534407
You don't have irrefutable proof of anything

You don't have irrefutable proof of your lifts, your wealth, or your heterosexuality

>>41534134
What if i want to do them because I think they're fun, instead? Also lats/traps

>>41530498
>>41530459
Wtf is a gde

Reeeee

>>41534455
its a waste of time and it fucks your recovery

you think the're fun because you think it will make you grow more, protip they wont

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I might get flamed but how do I begin powerlifting?

Want to compete soon but not sure how to start. I'm assuming start at a local meet to qualify?

Or is there like a qualification meet?

Want to sign up for Juniors.
And 165 weight class.
Currently 185 of just 20+ % lard.

I'm lost.

>>41534449
LOL you're running greg cuckolds NOVICE program and asking fat retard on how to run it AHAHAHHAHAHA

no wonder you're so obsessed over me and kermit becuase you're such a weak little BITCH (FACT: see you running a NOVICE program and askin fat RETARD on how to do it) LOL

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>>41534488
general development expert

>>41534509
Okay I admit it, you've exposed me! Please stop posting this! I don't want others to see!!!

>>41534506
youre (probably) not competitive enough to go to nationals/worlds so you have nothing to qualify for. just go to a local meet and have fun. dont worry about feds or anything like that

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>>41534549

>>41534505
How are the effects on recovery any different than the regular accessory lifts programmed into c6w

>>41534488
Good Dad Everyday

It's for PLers with kids

>>41533322

Anyone who wouldn't unironically build their team around Quakstak is a faggot

>>41534407

>Novice program
>AMRAP

What shitburgling novice program is that?

>>41534488

Glucose Deficient Enzymes

>>41534506

The first step is actually lifting.

Then you can pretty much sign up for any "local" meet in any fed you want. Just don't be that faggot that shows up and wastes everyone's time getting REDLIGHTS because he can't follow the commands.

>>41534669
fuck off

Has anyone tried using nofap to set a PR? I've read that the only thing nofap does for you is give you a slight test increase for a short amount of time after about a week of refraining from fapping.

How long does it last? When does it occur? How do i plan it to correlate with my PR? Is it all a meme?

>>41534745
Don't talk to princessa like that

If you've got elbow tendonitis from squats move your hand placement out holy shit. Wish i'd learnt this a year ago

eric bugenhagen just squatted 365 for 20 reps on 2 gallons of milk a day

/plg/ BTFO

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Af8y0w2r9c

>>41534817
/plg/ likes eric tho? hes the epitome of trying harder

>>41534848
do you even post here bro he gets shit on here everytime for doing memelifts because his total sucks

>>41534872
lmao newfag. the only reason he has any subscribers is because boardie posted his jefferson DL a few months a go

how tall is isley and what's his bw?

i think im getting close statswise but i don't seem nearly as fat.

maybe im just delusional

>>41534908
oh yeah sure bro im sure 8k people browse this general lmao

>>41534928
>what is exponential growth

when bordie posted him he had like 100 followers. he got popular on /plg/ then on regular /fit/ then it snowballed

>>41534962
he was already on youtube you dumbass he just started his own channel

>>41534996
yeah. and his channel wasnt experiencing any growth until /plg/ picked him up and started doing jeferson DLs for the memes. why is this even important. the fact is everyone here likes eric

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today I shall remind them!

>>41535079
>pretending to like eric so it looks like you didnt get btfo
its ok just start drinking raw milk and start doing memelifts

What's the deal with normies and mixed grip? I get it with people who need it to hold on to the bar and shit, but normies lift like 60-120kg and will barely have double overhand for fucking bench press. See people row with mixed grip all the time, with only 40kg and shit

>>41534926
6'0 and 105kg

He's fat as fuck

t. I'm isley

>>41535117
monkey see monkey do

>>41535117
>mixed grip rows

what?

>>41535131
I guess.

>>41535153
Yeah. I lift in a normie gym, and everyone who rows does it with mixed grip, belt of course and 40-60kg. Except thge polish guy, he's based.

>>41535171
how does that even work? wouldnt the bar helicopter? wouldnt it hurt?

>>41535196
idk, they seem to do it fine, but again they use very little weight so that might prevent helicoptering form being an issue

once there was even a guy who showed his friend how to do the different lifts and he taught him to specifically do the row like that

Sean is a fraud


A FRAUD


HE CANNOT DRIVE


HIS MOMMY DRIVES HIM TO McDONALDS


POOR WITTLE BAEBEH ;'((((

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can someone explain this to me i never did a program i was going to do c6w along with this for my bench but im retarded and cant understand this, sorry.
so week 1 i would do the warm up, then the 5x5, then the amap 3 times that week? and then move on to the next week and repeat everything the next month? also what sort of accessories should i add to this? sorry for being a retard.

Why can't I do a pushup if I can bench my bodyweight

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Any twinks here?

>>41535414
not even 1? you are probably fat and have a garbage form.
keep your back straight, squeeze your butt cheeks so tight that you would snap your boyfriends dick, flex your quads, and look up.

>>41535396
It is a 3 day bench program. You do the top left block on day 1, the top middle on day 2, and the amrap in the top right on day 3, and so on. You can add LTEs, pec flyes, CGBP, curls, chins, pull ups, rows, etc. Don't add too much to the middle day each week because it's more of a recovery day to prep for the amrap next session.

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>>41534872
I'll fuck you up manlet

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>>41535396
Stop with that twinkfairy shit and do a real mans program, fucking faggot.

>>41535456
thank you friend

>>41535484
Also don't increase the weight for the weekly maxes unless you get 9+ on the amraps, the spreadsheet is retarded in that it assumes you get 9+ every week.

Why does this place get so randomly shitty sometimes

I was trying to talk about lifting and then some asshole with a swastika and his name started spurgin out and making a thousand threads

What's that guy's problem?

>>41535804
awww did wittle dino just wanna talk about his wittle greg nucky novice program :(((

>>41535470
jim wendlar can barley walk dickhead

>>41535804
I can only post outside of the hours 9am-3pm but school is almost out for summer and then I'll be around all the time!

Should I try weed? Is there any point if I don't plan on smoking regularly? Just a one time thing

>>41535961
Sure, it's pretty fun if you got some good friends with you

>>41535961
It's a really shit tier and mild drug

try alcohol or cocaine if you want a real mans drug

>>41535961
>>>>Smoking
>Willingly cucking your gains
It's degenerate and you're actively hindering your progress, albeit minorly. Do what you want, but imo not worth it

>>41535984
I heard it could reduce breast size in males

>>41535984
If it's a one-time thing you won't lose all your lung-gains..

>>41536001
>Not wanting tits like screamer
Your loss tbqh

>>41536010
That's why I said it only minorly hinders your progress. Depending on how much you smoke (and when), you will notice the negative effect the next session at the minimum.

>>41535417
Ay, bby.

>>41536048
Maybe, I've never felt negative effects. Smoked 4 times, always on a saturday with next session being monday.

>>41536048
>citation needed

>>41536091
Like I said, depends on how much you smoke

>>41536095
>Inhaling particulates and CO2 into your lungs doesn't impede their ability to work properly
t. anon

>>41535984
How would you say it cucks your gains? Id argue it can almost only help due to increased recovery from the relaxation and if you're bulking smoking weed is incredibly helpful. I will agree that your cardio is probably very slightly hurt though.

>>41536127
Yeah I'm sure there aren't any successful athletes who smoke weed regularly
Nice appeal to intuition son

>>41536127
I guess, I didn't smoke all that much I think, and also so rarely, only 4 times ever in like 3 years

The weak projecting edgelord is posting again. He must be jobless.

I trust bobby because he's Jewish yet not pushing weed therefore it must be bad for you

>>41536131
I'd say specifically cardio/work capacity. Squats and deads have always been brutal to me if I smoked (in general, not specifically pot) a day or two before the session

>>41536144
>Implying that it still doesn't hinder them, but because they're already pretty fit or some of the best genetically, it wouldn't affect them as much

>>41536144

There are also successful athletes who halfsquat. Antonio Brown comes to mind.

Just because they were born with great athletic genetics doesn't mean the stupid shit they do is any less stupid.

>>41536191
>cardio/work capacity
I can agree there, I would argue the benefits (if bulking) outweigh the negatives. Obviously ignoring legality, if you compete usapl etc.

#pot2blame

>>41535804
lmao nice one dino

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sean you better get your fucking act together

>>41536249
fuck off S*an

Lads why is my deadlift shittier on the bar in my shit commercial gym. Its not any stiffer the knurling is just trash. However I havent dropped the bar cuz I hook grip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qA6tToHgLs

>>41536374
The knurling being trash would definitely fuck your pull. The harder it is to hold onto your deadlifts, the harder they are.

>>41536602
>The harder it is to hold onto your deadlifts, the harder they are.
What a breakthrough, visionary

>>41536602
But I havent come close to dropping it. Do you think straps would cure this? Or should I go full autism and bring my bar to the gym?

>>41536678
Just because you haven't come close to dropping it doesn't mean you're not spending more energy holding onto the bar than you normally would

>>41536709
That makes sense. I'll just deal with it for now until I start driving out to a nearby pl gym to pull on a diddle bar. Any solutions to this other than straps? Cuz im converting to hook grip so I have to keep that in for my top singles to practice it.

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>making 5 meals for tomorrow took me over an hour

jesus christ i hate how time consuming this shit is

Why do I keep having existential life crisises at 1am

Surely there's a god otherwise how did the universe come into existence
How did god come into existence
Has the universe always been here or is there a beginning and an end?
Surely none of this is real
Nobody's real
Am I even real
What would happen if I killed myself right now
Will I never exist again
Everyone I loves going to die
What even is love
Is all I am just a chemical process
Why do I suck at deadlifts

>>41536798
we can't explain the universe with our merely human brains.
all we are, is what the universe is doing at our location in this moment.

did narrower squats than usual today and they felt so good.

>>41536798
God gets power from our belief in him. Kinda like Freddy Kreuger.

went from cutting to bulking

1000 cal deficit to 500 cal surplus

bench actually is weaker now than it was when i was starving myself and barely sleeping

i think it might be time to collect rocks

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>>41537260
man every time I even look at food my strength bounces back like fucking crazy.

Concerned I'm not doing enough volume right now for RP (since i'm doing nogramming), so hitting my moderate day calories could bee too much.

I punched out a no belt 405 pause front squat today https://www.instagram.com/p/BUZxlNQDbHF/?taken-by=norsefat
that didn't even look that bad, which is actually my leading indicator that I might be eating too much lol

>>41537448
how long does it usually take for your strength to bounce back?

I've only been on surplus for like a few days but i feel like I should be feeling noticeably better by now

>>41537260
>5 days into a cut
>Weight dropped maybe 0.5 lb
>Bench already lost 10 lb

The fuck

>>41537667
leverages

you deflate a little bit on a cut, and there goes your bench press

>>41537448

what you need my man is those pictures of the food and the qt girls

Hey, Big Man here, would anyone like to see my asshole?

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>>41537787
show me that big ol hog

>>41537787
ok dino

>>41534289
this can be applied to almost any powerlifter, and to blame is the lack of bodybuilding work

i do nuckols 3x a week bench as well as TM for lower body. after i've done my strength sets i do plenty lat volume, as well as some basic shit to get a pump like laterals, face pulls, leg raises etc. it hasn't interfered with my lifts and has prevented me from looking like a powerlifter.

>>41534289
genetics

>>41534289
Strength ≠ aesthetics
This is known

anthony fantano has called nas a classic in front of me too many times

today i listened to it and god damn

>>41538299
I dont understand what you're saying, are you saying nas is a great rapper? Hes literally top 5 all time. New york state of mind is one of the greatest hip hop songs ever. How didnt you already listen to him?

>>41538390
idk i just never checked it out senpai

>>41538405
If you're a fan of rap and hadnt heard of nas id also highly reccomend big pun, gang starr, big l, older outkast and wu tang all around the same era, less known with the exception of outkast and really good.

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So I've never been to a meet before but I want to get into it, but all the meets within 1500km are raw w/wraps. I don't have any, which ones should I get? I normally train alone so it'd be good if I can put them on myself. Currently squat 200kg @ 87

>>41538454
same problem but there are barely any meets near me

I give you some meats you faghota

>>41538454
>>41538467

Naw there's probably a lot. Figure out what your states IPF affiliate is and give that a google.

>>41538562
>ipf affiliate

no fun meme bullshit

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>recovering fatty
>cut down from ~25% to ~20% bf over about four months
>know I should keep cutting but really really want to not be cutting for a while

Anyone have that post from norsefat about strength training and being fat vs lean? I think that was relevant.

I'll probably just maintain for a bit or go very slightly above maintenance.

>>41538764
whats he say in it

>>41538796

Can't remember too much of it, but it was something about making the decision to be lean vs. making the decision to pursue strength training (since it's hard to do both), and why he made the decision to carry extra weight rather than get lean.

>>41538437
>>41538405
>>41538390
>>41538299


ooga booga this ooga booga that

go listen to dead european white men and culture yourselves swine.

>>41538840
lol

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>want to buy a belt
>got to wait weeks before one arrives

Should I just get the Rogue 10/13mm belt?

It's not IPF approved however.

>tfw squatting with long femurs

how do i fix this, i feel like i have to stand really wide in order to get to depth

>>41538906
its not?

thats what i have and its literally a blender bottle belt

its the same as the STrong one with a different logo. im sure theres more too

>>41538916
stop making excuses and do whats comfortable

your femurs being shorter isnt gonna magically make you amazing im sure youll find something else to complain about

>>41538926
http://www.powerlifting-ipf.com/rulescodesinfo/approved-list.html

It isn't. Most of the belts on the allowed list require long waiting times.

>>41538942
are you competing in it?

if not who gives a shit

>>41538949
Yeah, but I've reached the point where I need a belt. I literally don't use any gear.

>>41536678

It's probably a mental thing. You're thinking about how the bar is different rather than deadlifting on at least some level.

Shit like that is why I CAN'T hook grip on anything approaching actual weight. It just feels so goddamn weird.

>>41538962
same here but with mixed grip

I gave myself costachondritis doing (assisted) dips the other day. Is it OK to do my bench press/pull-up day or should I wait and let it heal?

>Max DL on Friday
>back into cycle 3 of c6w today
>DLs felt way harder than they should have

this is normal right? im just sore right?

>>41538956

If you have no interest in dealing with the IPF and their bullshit, the Rogue belt is perfectly acceptable. I used one of the Rogue Echo belts before I had to get a BestBelt to do a USAPL meet.

The only difference between the two is that the Echo belt was a lot stiffer at first, and took some doing to get on and off, even though I never wear a belt super tight. Otherwise, they're pretty much identical, and the IPF is full of shit.

>>41538974
i think its because youre used to the low volume of the later weeks

do you max on week 5 or wait till 6

>>41538982
It looks no different from the Titans and Inzers and it shouldn't offer any advantage, so why the fuck can't they just add it to their list? It's readily available to purchase unlike most belts on their list.

My DL is lmao5pl8, would you recommend a 10mm or a 13mm?

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R8 my home gym.

>>41538988
i max on week 6

>>41539019
10mm vs 13mm is preference tbqh

>>41539049
ive always just done it on week 5 but im gonna try doing it on 6 this time

>>41539069
Im on a cut, so i spend 5 weeks strict on my diet and then relax it a bit for week 6 and my PRs, then spend the following weekend deep cutting to get back into it. Im sure this has something to do with it too but it was just weird

>>41538562
There isn't, plus even if there was I don't like benching with heels down and I'm a geriatric on trt

>>41539019

I use a 10 mm, never used a 13 mm. I know some people might suggest a 3 inch belt for deadlifts, to better fit on your torso, but I don't do that and never really felt I had a problem with a 4 inch belt.

The Rogue belt isn't on the whitelist because they didn't pay the IPF enough Jew Gold, possibly because Rogue has better shit to do than deal with some small potatoes lolfed in a fake sport. Like make crazy money off CrossFit's fake sport.

It's a total farce. Respectable sport leagues (think the PGA Tour) don't approve specific brands just because they pay money. They set down equipment specifications and let you use whatever you want provided they fall within those specifications, like people who give the slightest fuck about the integrity of the competition might do.

>>41539121

then stay the fuck outta my fed scrublord

>>41539201
good post

i believe you are not rafael now

>>41539201
>Respectable sport leagues (think the PGA Tour) don't approve specific brands just because they pay money.

The PGA literally does this, ma man.

>>41539055
Alright, I may get a 10mm belt going by some reviews I've been seeing on YouTube.
>>41539201
I see, I ordered an Echo based on your advice. While using this I'll probably order one of those IPF jew meme belts. Thanks for the help.

>>41539353

I'm 99% sure they just use the USGA equipment standards, and the USGA themselves have a list of clubs known to conform to those standards. Neither has anything saying you couldn't play an otherwise conforming Nikent driver, if you had one lying around for some reason.

I'd believe the PGA has some spiel about what is and what isn't an appropriate logo (Phil's Mercedes-Benz logos are fine, I imagine they'd shit a brick if he tried to have a Jack Daniels logo or some such).

>>41533940
>If you start out as a skinny un athletic guy, with no experience, SS won't get you to 2 pl8.
lmoa laughing at you gde. Started off as a dyel 50kg nerd and I reached 80kg bench 110kg squat and 130kg deadlift all x5 in 2-3months on shitty brosplit. Didn't even know shit about lifting back then, just watched some videos how to do exercises and made some shitty split without any real plan.

Gibbs got a smooth looking 302.5kg squat in training

Fuck I wish there could be a gibbs v haack 2 this year

>>41539816
gibbs is banned from the ipf for competing in a different fed right? for a year?

fucking retarded

>>41539816
Nah haack is the one banned but that's the reason. Shit as

>>41539769
nice e-stats, bro
Would love to see your form on those.

>>41539901
>noob
>having good form
Don't pretend you had good form 2months into lifting just because you did baby weights. lmoaa everyone starts with trash form and you know it.

>knee sleeves still sort of wet from last work out
Putting them on is the worst feeling ever lads

Trappy please come back!

>>41540079
shoo shoo rafaello

>>41539816
I don't think anyone can stop him this year kek.

https://youtu.be/E484qiQXxzM

So when will we start getting big news about teenagers starving to death? """Fasting""" is already a trend on fit, it seems.

>>41540727

>So when will we start getting big news about teenagers starving to death?
>"""Fasting""" is already a trend on fit, it seems.

That sounds like a self-solving problem, really.

I, for one, will do my part in fighting against the fasting meme by continuing to be a part of the 105 kg Master Race. For weigh ins anyway, I'll be even fatter 99% of the time.

>>41540801
haha okay raffy

>>41540801
>105kg Materrace

But you're like 42kgs raffy

I have been away from plg for 2 years.

What did I miss?

>>41538454
you don't have to use wraps I think. Just go without?

>>41539948
>i bench 2 plates easy after two months
Do you bounce the bar like crazy?
>B-but nobody has good form after two months

same with quarter squats and cat back
Lying to me, I don't really care, but you better stop lying to yourself

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>>41537475

Sometimes one day, sometimes 2 but always within 3 days. I remember summer 2013, when I finally started eating it was like I was on fucking steroids. I miss that feeling so bad

>>41537715
Das it my dude

>>41538764
Tl;dr: don't be scared of getting weak to get lean, but don't be scared of gain some weight to get strong

The whole point made was that you have limited time in earth to get what you want, so you shouldn't be scared of temporary negative consequences for hitting your goals

>>41538764
I might have it, but not right now. Can check tonight.

Also, having a few weeks at maintenance after shedding some kgs is not a bad idea.

>>41538819
>making the decision to pursue strength training (since it's hard to do both),
he was just coping

you can be fairly lean (10-14%) and still get stronger, plenty of the lighter dudes do this. Getting fat is just an excuse to not have a good diet

you should only bulk if youre a skelly and just to start with so you have a base

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>>41538764
This maybe?

>>41541506
>implying norse was ever lean enough to experience the downsides of being ''lean''
its so obvious that hes coping its pathetic lmao

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Who is behind http://symmetricstrength.com/ ? Does anyone know?
Their strength standards and calculators have been the most accurate on the web for me and I'm wondering who has organized this website.
Is it just some random dude, people from the pl community, ...?

>>41541539
pretty sure it was some reddit poster on their powerlifting thread

>>41541539
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/3ewckg/made_a_few_updates_to_symmetric_strength_based_on/

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>>41541538
Being lean doesn't really have downsides. Being in a caloric deficit does though, and the downsides are fucking yuge.

>>41541557
>>41541568
thanks

>>41541603
>bulks, gains a lot of fat
>bbbbbut if i cut ill lose strnegth
then why did you bulk like a retard in the first place

>>41541603
>being lean doesn't have any downsides
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOIeU_YTex8

>>41541626
to get the strength youre worried about losing?

>>41541640
you dont need to bulk to gain strength

and if you do bulk a 100 calorie surplus isnt going to get you fat

>>41541645
who do you thinks going to get stronger faster; someone on a 100 surplus or someone on a 1000 surplus?

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>>41539033
gently triggered

>>41541666
the guy on a 100 surplus because the guy on a 1000 surplus would fall out of the weightclass so his weight/strength ratio will be all fucked and then when he cuts down he will lose a good chunk of that gained strength plus he would waste a lot of time not getting strong while the guy on a 100 surplus would continue progressing

Even if the 1000 guy decided not the cut his stats would be shit for the higher weightclass so he really would have no choice but to cut

so longterm the 100 surplus guy would blow the 1000 guy out of the water

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>>41541626
I didn't, I was born a fatty senpai

Parents didn't exactly help me out there, got fat when I was a kid

>>41541634
Of course it does, but the bigger thing I'm talking about now is due to the deficit. It's arguably the more important factor

>>41541645
>>41541666
>>41541712
The guy on the 1000 will get stronger faster in absolute terms.

I think there's a definite optimum though that lies somewhere around 200-600 kcal surplus, where fat gain is minimized and strength gains aren't hindered. Especially the lower end, because you can sustain that for much longer periods of time than the larger surplus.

>>41541712
>>41541738
no weightclasses in the jungle bby. the only thing that matters is your total

>>41541176
Next meet is in like six months so I've got plenty of time

I use a lot of quad so they'll definitely help

Was thinking titan rpm or titanium

>>41541753
the only thing that matters is your wilks

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>>41541761
Unless you're in the jungle

>>41541777

>777

Checkd

>>41541777
everything is relative

youll get fat to cope with not cutting and in the end you'll feel like shit, try to cut and your total will go down to nothing and then youll wish you were lean in the first place

>>41541801
>you'll feel like shit

projection. I feel great knowing my total (the only thing that matters) is going up, while you cope with "muh wilks. lb for lb I-Im stronger than you"

stay mad twinkshit

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>>41541801
Unless you're in the jungle

>>41541829
>he cares so much about a score in a joke of a sport
but im sure youl make a lootta money right

ahahahha stay fat fatty

>>41541881
PL is scored on wilks tho?? youre the one who cares too much about it. I care about ABSOLUTE STRENGTH

>>41533638
not gonna lie, blueshoes might still be an ugly fuck but he's improved a lot

>>41541738
>the deficit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sRvQWIm588

>>41541755
Where are you from? Freedomland?
If you're from the EU, strength shop has good wraps at a pretty cheap price. I don't know if they are ipf approved though. Most american brands their shipping gets really expensive to get it to eu.

>>41541246

I think that was one of the takeaways, yeah.

>>41541391

Thanks, hombre. I've actually been getting stronger while cutting, because I'm super neurotic about my diet, which is nice. I'm just a little burned out on cutting.

>>41541506

It wasn't that one, but I'm glad you posted it. Good read, thanks.

>>41541961
not him, but are strength shops cheapo £15 worth getting? never tried wraps but want to give them a go

>>41541961
From kangaroo land, don't need ipf approval since I'm an old man who needs his hormones from a pharmacy

Will be competing in gpc, they let you have up to 2.5m

>>41541988
I have these:
https://www.strengthshop.de/sleeves-wraps-straps-bandagen-schoner-zughilfen/wrist-wraps-handgelenkbandagen/super-heavy-wrist-wraps-handgelenkbandagen-sehr-fest.html
And I'm pretty happy with them. I never had any other ones, so don't have anything to compare. But they work, that's for sure.
It'll be hard to find better price/quality inside the eu.

>>41542017
sorry lad, I meant knee wraps. I should have made that clearer

https://www.strengthshop.co.uk/sleeves-wraps/knee-wraps/strengthshop-hercules-knee-wraps-black.html

I have strength shop wrist wraps already and like them :)

>>41542040
no problem, senpai. I don't use knee wraps myself, so can't comment on those.

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I posted this in an off-brand /plg/ yesterday but the thread got pruned for some reason shortly after.

Not sure if this is the right thread for it, but I was wondering if y’all had any advice on correcting my DL form.
I have this annoying habit of isolating the leg and hip portions, rather than doing them together. So I’m just pulling all the weight with my lower back for the second half of the lift.
Webbum shows it. Pardon the rotation.

Any tips or mental tricks y’all suggest to help me do the two movements at once?

>inb4 pointing out I’m fat
I know, working on it.

>>41542048
yeah. Ive never used them either. I dont want to pay £50+ for something and find out I dont even like it, but I dont want to buy something and find its cheap shit either

>>41542074
a few thing:

- Stop dropping the wheight at the top.
- start with your hips higher. Now you are dropping your hips very low, and raising them high when you start pulling. Just start in the high hip position.
- start with your shoulders closer to, but not in front of bar
- use your lats to keep the bar close to your legs
- Start pulling with your back when the bar is above the knee.

Read:
Starting strength
or:
https://www.strongerbyscience.com/how-to-deadlift/

>>41542074
You're trying to start the movement with your hips too low, similar to a squat. Then you automatically shoot the hips up first, to their stronger position, and then lock out. You should focus on setting up with the bar directly above your midfoot, below your scapula, and your hips higher, while still keeping a neutral back. If you can't keep a neutral back with higher hips, there may be some muscle imbalance or tightness, I'm not exactly sure which ones. But most likely you're setting up with your hips too low consciously.

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>>41542074
Start higher, as others mentioned. High hips are generally better, and you can watch your hips shoot up as soon as you start pulling (they're trying to get into a more advantageous position - why fight it?)

S L O W D O W N
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There's no reason to pull so fast. If you're learning, doing the movement slow is very beneficial. It forces you to feel out every inch of the movement, and more importantly it punishes you for being in the wrong position (this is why I think pause / tempo deadlifts and squats are GOAT)

The things you're going to immediately feel from this are thay your hips will need to be higher from the start, and your upper back and lats are going to need to tighten up in order to bring the barbell closer to your shins (will be necessary, hopefully should become apparent when you slow the movement down)

I agree that you should stop dropping the weight for now. I have no problem with it, but I think there's value in feeling the other side of the lift.

>>41542074
you stretch your knees too fast

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>>41542173
>>41542175
>>41542360
Thanks y’all. Great advice.

>hips higher
Will do. I wasn’t feeling that tightness you get from a good setup. I’ve seen Rip’s video with Art of Manliness where he talks about not dropping the hips. I was ignoring it at the time. I think this is much of my problem. (Didn’t help that the guy I asked for help kept telling me to drop my hips)

>shoulder/scapula position
This probably goes with the hip placement thing. Higher hips will allow me to get my shoulders closer.

>slow down and get your form right at each position
Alright, but I’ll probably practice with lower weight then.

>use lats to keep the bar close
This is the one part I don’t quite get. I activate my lats to ensure my back doesn’t round, but I don’t see how I could use it to reposition the bar.

>quit dropping the weight
Gotcha. I normally go through the reverse movement. I was just frustrated with myself (you can see me shake my head at the end) and wanted to check out the footage. This is not my normal practice.

>read SS
Will do. Got it for Christmas, but I keep putting it off.

will this take over powerlifting

http://usstrengthlifting.com/

>>41542173
>Stop dropping the wheight at the top.
wut

hows this a bad thing. elite lifters to this aswell. Slow eccentrics will fuck up the disc. Unless you mean that he would get redlighted in a comp

>>41542612
>press instead of bench

No, it will not.

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>>41542609
Das gud mang. You have the right mindset. It'll come. Reps reps reps!

Should scapula & lats pulling bar closer are closely linked. I wouldn't freak too much about pulling the bar closer,because if you're keeping a tight back and your hips are in the right spot with no lumbar flexion, then odds are you're already doing it.

Gud luck mang, ask more questions if you need later

>>41542625
Nah. Doing tempo eccentric deadlifts with lots of weight might be bad, but just letting the bar come down naturally shouldn't be an issue.

>>41542612
>press instead of bench

Yes, it will.

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>>41542609
>Will do. Got it for Christmas, but I keep putting it off.
>he unironically bought SS

>>41542627
the press was always THE upperbody press anyway, bench press only got made popular by gay bodybuilders

>>41542074
looks like the barbell slipped out of your hands near the top there

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>>41542636
Thanks for the help and encouragement.

>>41542638
Kek. Rip seems to know what he's talking about in his videos, so I thought I'd give his book a read.

>>41542703
Nope. Just dropped it when I was done.

Why does TM have such low deadlift volume?

>>41542920
because the squat carries over well to the deadlift

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>>41542927
Not if you actually squat properly instead of how coach memetoe says to.

>>41542920
cuz deadlifts r gay

>>41542948
>squat properly
memetoe does not teach a goodmorning my man

>>41542964
It's still ridiculously lower back and hamstring dominant, can't think of a single actually good squatter that squats like that.

>>41542986
>a squat
>hamstring dominant
kek

>>41543001
The Rippetoe way certainly is.

I really wonder how it is supposed to carry over to deadlift also if it's not.

>>41543018
dude even if you squat upright it still carries over to the deadlift

the deadlift is basicly a half squat with some upperback involvement anyway, just do some rows for volume or something

>>41543033
>the deadlift is basicly a half squat with some upperback involvement anyway
u wot m8

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>>41542612
>Press™
>no sumo
>no baby powder
>weigh out

powerlifting BTFO

>>41542612
is this ripptoes new meme fed?

Hey /plg/, its time for me deload.
But I also already started my cutting last week.
Should I still deload this week or its a bad idea? Is cutting + deload a bad combination? I mostly reduced the volume and kept the intensity of my workouts.

>>41543146
chalk is allowed dude
>>41543206
Its his new superior liftingfed

>>41543146
>>Press™
>>no sumo
>>no baby powder
>>weigh out
He basicly removed any cheating and memes

The fix that powerlelifting needs

>>41543355
>>41543355
>>41543355
NEW

>>41542959
A big stinky doo doo on the floor is what you made.

Haven't lifted in a while, realistically. where should I start?

>>41544280
the floor
then move it upwards