/fraud/

>>41476638
Not my job

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>fraud thread archived
>crtl+f "fraud"
>nothing
>crtl+f "steroid"
>nothing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COhrE0aW_tk
r8 my gf

Where the fuck do you guys find your source?

>inb4 biggest guy in your gym

My gym is small and consists only of dyels and old people.

>>41476638
>linking to leddit

lamo you fucking faggot

>>41476672
A pharmacy

>>41476672
I just inject turds I fish up from the gym's public bathroom

>>41476672
Nowhere officer.

We're all just caricatures heres roleplaying, steroid use happen to be part of our characters because it supplies endless challenges and hiccups along our characters journey.

Sup guys, I'm a little concerned as I have yellowing in my eyes. It is very slight and I think I might have actually had this most of my life (I remember looking at my sclera many years ago and noticing the light yellow color), however, I cannot remember if this is true or if I'm imagining things. I'm obviously worried about liver damage and jaundice.

My current cycle is just Dbol + Test E and I have been taking Milk Thistle 600mg every day while on the Dbol. I have been on Dbol for 16 days now which is not long at all. My liver doesn't hurt and I can't feel it. I still have a high appetite.

What are some other signs of liver damage? What would you do if you were me? Like I said I think the yellowing of my eye might be normal. I know that sometimes Africans have yellowed sclera even though they don't have liver damage, and although I'm white it might be a similar thing. You can't see any jaundice in my eye until I pull the lids back.

>>41476682
>>41476708
>>41476709

>le joke xD

No seriously help me you faggots.

>>41476718
Forgot to mention I've been doing 50mg of Dbol per day. Should I maybe just taper it down to 25mg per day for a while and see what happens?

>>41476721
No source talk. Use your head. I mean there's literally "Read this before asking stupid questions" in the OP. But yet you keep asking stupid questions.

>>41476721
Kys my man

>>41476718
lol your liver doesn't actually physically hurt

is your pee dark yellow? how's your stool?

>>41476718
oh and milk thistle doesn't do shit. get yourself some tudca or at the very least nac

>>41476747
Pee is totally normal I believe, but I will have to pee in a sec because I just drank a lot of water. I'll let you know.

Stool is pretty much normal from what I can tell.

>>41476760
Then youre fine.

Well physically at least; you're just neurotic.

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>>41476747
>>41476800
It looks the most like the top color I would say.

What explains the slightly yellow sclera then? Could it be just normal for me?

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>tfw urine is as clear as water

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>>41476868
>tfw piss is orange like in >>41476828

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>>41476638
>NOBODY FUCKING MAKES NEW THREADS
thats because nobody likes you and stays away from threads you and bimbo post in

>>41476828
You look at the sclera through conjunctiva which can be gray, tan, or yellow. It is possible that your conjunctiva just has a yellowish color.

>>41476887
Good.

>tfw roiding for almost 2 years
>starting "blast" and first time test is over 300

If I have to do a blood test for my new job, should I stop my current cycle and do PCT right now to be prepared for it, or will it not matter? I have about 6 weeks.

>>41476995
[following up]
I imagine it's going to be just a normal CBC and blood panel.

>>41476995
Doubt they're going to be testing for steroids. What job?

>>41477005
New grad nurse (RN). I know they won't test for steroids but I'm scared about my hormone levels coming back all fucked up and they start asking follow up questions

>>41477022
If they won't test for steroids, you have nothing to fear. If you want to err on the side of caution then do PCT.

Your body should be totally normal in 6 weeks.

>>41477058
>Your body should be totally normal in 6 weeks.
lol

>>41477096
Anything that's going to show in a normal blood test. Other than his lipids might be a bit fucked.

can I get some (You)'s?
>>41476670
>>41476670
>>41476670

>>41477262
Your gf is a 12 year old?

>>41477298
yes

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>inb4 seized

Asked this in the last thread but don't think I got any replies

I'm getting recurring significant joint pain in my wrists and knuckles since a couple weeks in to my 600mg test-e cycle, not taking any AI, what could be the problem?

>>41477323
Shit form

if I hop on a cycle and enjoy it, could I omit the PCT and convert to a cruise?

I'm thinking of either doing a 16 week cycle w PCT or a year cruise then HCG off

>>41477591
Yes.

>>41477591
Of course, it depends on bloods too, cruising I think is when bloods are most necessary.

>>41476672
i tell the paki guy in the nhs pharmacy i'll beat him up if he doesn't gib me my drugs

3 cycles under my belt now, just finished pct after 16 weeks of 500mg test and tren enth with dbol to kick.

Already feel like less of a man. When did y'all start bnc? Anyone got any info on prolonged use or risks associated with bnc over cycling?

>>41476718
>my liver doesn't hurt
lol, how would you even know if your liver was hurting. when you get fucked on alcohol you dont feel pain in your liver you jackass, and plenty of people get yellow eyes from alcoholism,and its a fucking telltale of acute liver failure

>>41477663
>When did y'all start bnc?

Went on, never came off.

>Anyone got any info on prolonged use or risks associated with bnc over cycling?
cbf'd linking literature but certainly the biggest ones are cholesterol, heart hypotrophy, infertility, prostate issues and endocrine failure.

>>41477096
he's getting checked for rec drugs they're not fucking WADA

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>Captured in all your lies
>Fear is in your eyes
>Creature who's gone insane
>Your war is in vain

>Trapped in a cage of stone
>We'll destroy your home
>Consequence of your action

>>41477663
your heart is the big thing, when you're on for good, anything bigger than trt will gradually enlarge your heart, its why it doesnt really happen with cycling as typically cyclers use less gear and the enlargement is so gradual, but it puts you at risk of plenty of things, a few of them fatal

>>41477663
Probably number one to watch is blood pressure, resting heart rate, cholesterol and triglycerides.

>>41477663
>When did y'all start bnc?

17

>>41477663
i do a max 20 week cycle once per year, and i enjoy both the time off and the time on; on sure everythings great being strong and yuge but off all my worries and responsibilities regarding use are gone, i can enjoy other things, the key for everything is moderation, you know, balance. why must you have more of a good thing because its good? this board is about fitness, chocolate tastes good but we deny ourselves excess because its not healthy, it carries problems with it. why should steroids be any different because the fit people use them instead of the fats? you have to consider if this means more to you than everything else in life, and we aren't meant to feel amazing all the time, its not mentally healthy

If I'm naturally prone to acne, but I have good hygiene and don't get breakouts as long as keep up my routine, what should I expect on my first cycle? Can I stay acne-free as long I maintain my hygiene, or is a breakout inevitable?

>>41477856
More than likely you're going to explode. Get some accutane.

>>41477856
generally yes, acne is caused by an enlargement of the sebaceous glands in response to androgens and the subsequent process of pore blockage, though i hope you knew that, scrubbing away can in fact make acne worse

>>41477901
>>41477856
>accutane

How about fuck no.

Just get som selenium sulfide based wash or shampoo and leave it on your face for a few minutes in the shower.

A prednisolone topical cream if you need it.

the acid refluxes from cialis always get me ugh.

too bad I can't fuck without it anymore

just injected for very first time

did it in my quad, aspirated and got the air bubble/no blood

but when i pulled the needle out pretty dark blood seeped out slowly not heaps but not nothing, that normal?

one of the guides i watched when the guy pulled out the needle there was 0 blood

24 today, this is the year of the /fraud/. Thanks for all your help guys.

>>41478160
After roiding for a while you stop bleeding at all

if you get cut it just cuts you like you are made of plastic

>>41478160
you just pierced your skin with a sharp object
yes a few drops of blood is normal, christ above

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>>41476672
steroid.com
> how stupid do you feel for not figuring that out

>>41478209
yer wasn't a few drops, whatever the smallest coin denomination in your country is was probably about that size

but i was more concerned because of how dark it was, not like the colour of the blood when you donate

>>41478209
oh and here skip toward the end you'll see

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E__kMjcp0XM

better to ask advice than assume mate

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Just started a var cycle for 40mg ED for 4 weeks (maybe more) just to help cut for the next month.

Can any of you give some first hand experiences with it? Benefits you noticed or cons you noticed? Just want to hear personal experiences.

>>41477954
Accutane was a miracle for me... Had terrible acne for years and tried everything. Used accutane for 6 months and haven't had acne since.

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>>41478308
Wow, look at what a whore she is.

>Also more fucking var only cycles
You know there is a thing called stacking synergy right? Also I've never run var, so can't help you.

>>41476672
No source talk homie. Remember how you learned how to torrent? Fucking google copper

>>41478308
>oral only cycle
>various only cycle
Unless you're a woman, you need to actually do some fucking research.
Cruise on 150-250 E for cutting, any other compounds additionally are for getting stage ready.
Var is only good for blasting at 100mg or running 40-50 towards the end of a blast for your joints. And it's for stacking with other compunds.
Alternatively, you can pick up some SARMs like cardarine and ostarine for cutting, running 20-30mg each.

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Any of you autists in Boston? I may be up there soon with the work waifu for either a day trip or overnight. Anything you guys suggest seeing/doing besides having her ride be cowgirl while yelling "the British are cumming", seeing the park downtown with those swan boats and the lighthouse maybe?

>>41478602

Go to the North End, Newbury and Boylston streets, Quincy Market, the aquarium, and the wharf.

>>41478308
I'm on a var only cycle, on day 7, but I'm taking 75mg because I'm a real man. So far I don't look or feel much different, probably because I'm 15% bf so can't see the hardness, but I get massive pumps at the gym, makes my muscles look HYUGE.

>>41478655
I feel as though I am being baited.

I fucked up and have run out of syringes (still got pins) for my last pin. Stocked up on more than enough of everything else.

Can I use the same pin from Monday today or is that fucked up?

Is indian pharma impossible to get in canada now? No fucking source ships here now...

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>>41478758
>Ran out of syringes
>Have pins
>Can I use the same pin

What.

>>41478758
That's stupid, but it would work. Still infection risk will go up a lot. Just buy new needles and syringes ASAP

I bumped my incline bench to 350x4 and then spent an hour doing various flyes and then said fuck it.

I hate my lifting music and couldn't get into the zone.

>>41478779
yes. Indian/Turkish pharmacies are a no-go right now.

enjoy your ugl AI

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>>41478843
>Not lifting to Byzantine and Latin chants to make yourself feel like an actual crusader at his final mass before engaging the Saracens

I'm not even memeing at this point. This actually makes me pumped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY2KzjVNoKY

>>41478871
Damn. Should be ok tho right?

What happens if my nolva is bunk and I don't recover for example

>>41478700

Little Italy is the North End. I like Lucia's (might have the name wrong, it's been years). Go to Mike's Pastry while you're there.

>>41478720
why

>>41479031
75mg var isn't enough

How important is HCG on a 12 week 500mg Test e Cycle?
And should you use Clomid and nolva or is just nova by itself enough at 40/40/20/20?

>>41479356
Are you using it for PCT or on cycle to maintain fertility/ball size?

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>>41479356

>>41479371
Well I'm not cycling yet.
I was planning to use it on cycle then up the dose for the 2 weeks before PCT.
For nutt size.
But I was hoping the cycle I'm planning is light enough to not warrant HCG
I was hoping to just get away with 500mg Test e for 12 weeks and a nolva pct and keep an AI on hand.
Because that's simple. And I'm simple.

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>>41479410

>>41479390
>>41479417
Yeah I'm pretty tired too

>>41479356
no

>>41479410
You gonna see some shrinkage and obviously shutdown. If I ever had to come off again (god forbid lel) I would consider HCG a top priority even over nolva/clomid. On cycle 500ius twice a week should be enough for nut size. So if you don't care about size just do what you said and use it towards the last few weeks on cycle. Maybe start week 8, get bloods and week 10 and adjust HCG accordingly.

>>41479425
They're bored of your autism

>>41479447
>Shutdown on 2 cc a week

>>41479447
Thanks man.
So how about the PCT? Clomid and Nolva or just 1?
>>41479448
That's okay I'm getting answers.

>>41479470
Nigger that isn't enough juice to bother with it. It's just test. Just. Test.

>>41479470
If you can afford it do both. Alot of people go on about studies where guys recover fine without PCT but if your cycling you want to do it as fast as possible so imho a solid PCT isn't a bad idea. That being said I BnC because whether it be my genetics or a flaw with my training or diet I was never stoked with my bloodwork after coming off.

>>41479511
Thanks my dude.

>>41479537
>oh man I better take all these female breast cancer meds after my baby test cycle

>>41479548
>oh man I better be a cunt for no real reason

>>41479577
rekt

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>tfw tren comes tomorrow

>>41479577
Enjoy wasting your money

>>41479698
enjoy your balding

>>41479831
>Implying

I don't have any MPB.

>>41479867
It typically doesn't show itself until later in life, but AAS use escalates it so you're balding in your 20s.

>>41479894
I know I don't. My brother was practically bald at my age (20s), so was my father. I got my maternal grandfathers hair genetics, still a full head at donkeys years.

>>41479930
>My brother was practically bald at my age (20s), so was my father

Should we tell him guys?..

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>>41476672
the dnm my man

>>41479930
If you were to downright abuse DHT AAS do you think it would could cause you to loose your hair regardless of genetics. I mean your gonna have bigger issues. Just curious.

PEG-400 a good solvent for orals?

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day 9 of psmf 5'11 253

gained a pound, body might be in 'starvation mode' might be time to do a refeed ya? or maybe just excess water weight

What cycle should I run if I want to perform better aerobically? I have a police academy soon and we're going to be running 3-5 miles a day.

I don't do much cardio because it kills gains.

>>41479991
Apparently EQ and Deca.

>>41479991
>what illegal drugs should I take to better enforce the law

homebrewers, do you sterilise non-sterile pvdf filters (pushing alcohol through first or some such) or just use pre-sterilised filters only?

>>41479998
you forgot the tren friend

>>41479991
myo inositol trispyrophosphate

>Mfw not a single pringle anymore with someone you actually could marry and have a long friendship with.

Fuck me boys, who would have thought drugs were the cause and solution to all of life's problems.

>>41480075
That's what I'm counting on. Good stuff anon

My raws arrived
>sdrol
>dbol
>tbol
>anavar
>anadrol

Not sure what to use first desu

Anon swore that legit anavar and tbol is good for putting on mass but Im suspicious still.

>>41480105
Got a press or caps?

>>41480113
Caps soon.

For personal usage was just gonna dissolve some and use a syringe to squirt done throat.

>>41480105
Anon is dumb. Plenty better compounds for mass than var and tbol.

I vote to snort as much sdrol as you can.

>>41480132
Yeah I never tried them though, and raws werent that expensive to try in with an order.

>>41480147
What country did you import to?

>>41478236
Yeah. A crash course on deoxygenated blood should help calm your tits about blood color.

You're a fucking moron if this is what worries you. Your cycle gonna be lit, senpai. XDdd

>>41480168
Japan (gear isnt illegal to import, but monthly limits apply to importing prescription meds), first package got seized and they said I had too much anadrol when I told them what it was, so I got it resent and visited customs in person and told them to send it back, was all manners and laughs and no anal probing like if I wa still in Aus.

>>41480179
Sounds based. Why aren't more japs ripped then?

>>41480184
most normies dont roid, source talk is allowed on 2chan so getting gear isnt a problem, though domestic is usually pricey like aus

>>41480193
Is there the same stigma around usage as there is here?

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>Watching some YouTube
>Advertisement for SportsBet App comes on
>Showing off a bearmode russian weightlifter, some black sprinter guy and what I assume is a parody of Armstrong
>Entire narration is just steroid puns
>Juice up their performance
>No stranger to performance enhancement
>Tested positive for speed and power
>Scientific stuff injected into it's back end
>Give an unfair advantage
>cut a few corners
>The slogan is "Putting the roid in Android"

What the fuck?

>>41480299
google advertises based on your search history

Got some free m tren from my source to try. Doing 2mg atm and my nipples have started leaking despite a AI wat do?

>>41480318
I don't even like sports or gambling.

>>41480325
Get some caber

>>41480341

Thats what i thought. Afraid for the bloods for my current cycle.. test mast var mtren

>>41480325
>2mg

bait

>>41480455

Not really tested it out at 750 mcg then upped to 1mg and now 2mg. I mean its probably underdosed but at least i feel it now also free

>>41480219
I don t think so. That stigma is part of why it's illegal for normies not just banned in sports. Doesnt seem to be abused that much in sports here.

Customs agent didn't know what it was just the rules the ministry of health told her she asked what it was for so I just said for helping with red blood cell production.

>>41480219

>>41480708

Should add it was inside stealth packaging and their scan picked out the powder distinctly since they showed me pics.

That didn't seem to be a problem though.

does juicing make you more likely to get sick? Don't steroids suppress the immune system?

>>41480789
I don't think so.

>>41480789
I too have heard this but I don't think i get sick anymore than i did natty. When i first got into lifting i think that did loads for my immune system. Prons all the good quality food and sipplementation and actually giving to shits about taking care of yourself

>dnp hit full saturation and i lost control due to the extreme heat and pain i ate 4000 cals a day of milk, tapioca, rice pudding and more cold dairy shit plus carbs twice in a row (granted my tdee is 5000, but still)


fuck, hate being a stress eater. my body is as lean as ever but holy shit is my face round.

i truly admire all these anorexic women models and cheeleaders for their mental discipline.

>>41481523
>i truly admire all these anorexic women models and cheeleaders for their mental discipline.
Cocaine/meth

>>41481523
>tfw am the reverse
I starve when I get stressed. Exgf was the same.

>>41481523
>4000cals of high carb food on dnp

That my friend would have been punishment

>>41481661

didnt say it wasnt pure hell brah.

nothing more fun than eating a 800cal pizza and 400cals of pasta at 1am a bit after the dnp.


i was literally in shorts and a tanktop outside sitting on a sheltered bus stop while it was raining just to not die of heat and a super full stomach from all the water i had to take in


spent 2 hours browsing 4chan.

how long to pip last on average in quads, just test-e

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On 500mg of dnp right now, I literaly sweat buckets and people stare at me for being so fucking wet

Should I be worried? I feel good except for the sweating

>>41478700
go kill alex for us kthxbai

>>41481765
6 months

>>41481765
6 days

>>41481765
foooorrreeeevvvveerrrrrr

>>41481789
Worried about? People looking at you sweat? Just call them nazis and say you're paying respects to the burnt jews.

>>41481904

Fucking kek

Losing 0.4kg of weight a day right now.
Looking leaner every day even tho dnp water retention.

But that heat... It's 2017 why hasn't there been something invented that cools the body by a few degrees like a counter pill to dnp.

>>41481935
That's pretty impressive, how long have you been on for? What's the temperature in the fatherland atm?

>>41481979

I did 8 days on 250mg Crystal, and now since 3 days on 500mg.. I was the guy asking you about blood levels a few days ago.

I'm running a 1000 calorie deficit on 90kg starting weight on 184cm height, sitting on arround 14% bodyfat

I almost forgot what it was like to not drip in sweat all the time (expect pictures soon)

>>41482111
Noice. Hope you don't die. I like Germans.

>>41482142
there's like a 50% chance he's a Muslim, are you sure about that?

>more sweat and heat on (fairly yolo but still) EC(A)Y stack than on last DNP cycle
lolwut

>>41482185
>Muslim
>Phone is not in Arabic

He's German.

>>41478902
>latins
>white

its another autstic uggly pedo posts about how lolis arent sinful and cant seem find a wife despite "pure christian grill" episode.

you;re about as autstic as alex.

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>>41482427
Filter me. I don't mind.

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>>41481789
is this you?

Just saw some old 60+ lady at the gym. Would they care about androgenic roid sides? I think I definitely would go all out on roids if I were an old lady working out

>>41482858
>roiding grandma goes from lifting 5 lb weights to lifting 10 lb weights on-cycle, a 200% increase

damn..

>>41479480
Are you fucking retarded

>>41482858
Post-menopausal women's hormone balance is whack as fuck anyway. Why even care. 1g mast e a week CMON

Goddamn, I'm like 4 weeks into my cut and ive only lost a little fat, although my shoulders and traps grew. but thats not the point of a cut. I need to cut harder. I was listening to a bunch of Bostin Loyd's videos last night and I wish I heard them a year earlier even when I was natty. Everything is worse when you're 10+% bodyfat. Too bad im 20% bf so everything is terrible. Fuark. It's damn near June already and I've made no real progress.

>>41482858
> local man attempts to deal drugs to beloved Grandmother

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>52 degrees the other day
>skyrocketed to 72 today
Dodged a fucking bullet lads

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Order sent, payment sent. 2xTest # 250 & Clomid 25mg (50 ct). Now I wait patiently and hope nothing goes wrong.

I-I'm finally doing it guys ;-;

>>41483307
such a cute first cycle

where's your AI

I have crohns and recently got really sick and lost 25 lbs and a shit ton of strength. Looking to do my first cycle with the standard recommended test e 250mg e3.5d with 500iu of HCG daily starting two weeks in.
Question is I do BJJ 5x a week so I only have time for lifting 2-3x a week. BJJ still hits my legs, back, and some upper body but obviously not like lifting. Would I still be able to get enough out of a cycle to make it worth it? Ideal would be 15lbs of lbm gained with getting my lost strength back.

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>>41483317
FUCK

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>>41478655
>var
>real man

>>41483350
Just order some asin, like even if youre estro sensitive you wont need it for a few weeks at least when first starting

>>41483411
What oral should I throw in first?

Have var, tbol, dbol, sdrol and adrol, actually have a lot of adrol. So thinking I might just try that.

Planning working out at home for first few weeks then gym (moving)

Likely go off orals a few weeks (have tudca) then probs dbol + sdrol when I go to the new gym

>>41483350
topkek

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>when you occupy the gym toilet with good lightning for 15 min to take some good shots so fraud won't laugh at you as much

>>41483449
just post old pics of farmer

>>41483435
ree wasnt meant to be a reply, someone answer pls

>>41483461
this tbH

>>41483411
Probably should have thought about this a bit more before ordering, but it's too late now I guess. I'll try and get some before I start it. How common is it that someone would need an ai on a first time test cycle? I know it's safe to have on hand just in case, I'm just curious.

>>41483499
No sure way to tell. Some people can run a gram without much AI, some grow tits by just reading the front of the vial.

>>41483499
Its not uncommon, it depends on your dose, the higher the dose, the higher the chance someone may need it.

It depends how much your aromatise and how sensitive you are to estrogen.

If youre highish bodyfat, the chancer is higher that youll need it.

I used inexpensive ugl asin on high test and dbol (just took it at the same time as a few fish oils for absorption as asin is oil soluble) and it held back the estro problems I otherwise get

>>41483307
>>41483350
>clomid only pct
>no ai
Yeah you're definitely ready

Anyone have experience with primo? I'm 4 weeks in and it's not what I expected. I'm during without losing mass but it didn't seem to be accelerating my fat loss like I was led to believe it would. Does it take longer or was I wrong to expect that? Test and primo

>>41483499
I needed 12.5mg of asin ed on my first 500mg cycle. I grew tits that I had to nuke with ralox because I kept fucking with the AI thinking I couldn't possibly need that much

enjoy

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>>41483563
>some grow tits by just reading the front of the vial
KEK. Well I'll get some just to be safe, seeing as how I don't wanna grow tits or anything.

>>41483573
Planning on running 500 a week for 10 weeks, which doesn't seem that high. I'll play it safe though. Only problem is every source I find has a $100 limit so I'd have to buy something to get over that limit, which sucks. I'll figure it out.

>>41483639
I mean it's a pretty simple beginners cycle, what else could I need? Aside from an ai apparently.

>>41483671
I'm beginning to think this whole steroid meme was a horrible fucking mistake ;-;

>>41483671
Yeah I tried 25mg E3D, E2D, but didnt work so well, 12.5mg ED was right, perhaps its the ED dosing, maybe 6mg ED would do it.

>>41483499
I'm really susceptible to estro sides. My first cycle I needed it for sure and ever since I haven't fucked around

>>41483435
Yeah I wouldn't stack dbol and sdrol unless you have a liver of steel

there's no wrong choice really. if you're lean bulking sdrol or adrol, heavy bulk dbol, cut var. or really stack var with anything else.

you got memed hard by the tbol dude though.

>>41483700
Abombs will fuck you up. Makes your face puffy too

>>41483670
takes longer than you'd think, also UP THE DOSE

>>41483692
Get adex for on course and nolva for off, clomid isn't necessary but will help, pct for at least 5 weeks

>>41483670
99% of primo is faked . It is either deca or EQ (or nothing at all) unless you are buying pharma Primo (which I dont even know if you can get in the U.S) it WILL be fake primo.

Just cuz u trust ur dealer doent mean its not fake. The raws are fake.

>>41483734
Thanks

>>41483692
Rui
Google

>>41483700
>>41483732
Ive done sdrol fine with no tudca before.

Was on planning 30mg dbol + 20mg sdrol, with tudca this time, talked about it some time before.

Havent tried adrol before.

Its okay, it was only a few $ extra to add in to the order, pocket change really.

>>41483692
you're obviously not ready if you can do something as simple as forget to order fuckin AI. like you've clearly done zero research, you bought shit people told you to buy and that's it

>clomid only pct

>>41483756
Fuck. I've had good luck so far. The only time I for sure I got something fake was the first time I got var.

>>41483759
anytime. and, oh, >>41483756 this, probably. mine was pharma but no fucking way to tell if yours is aside from well, pinning it lol

protip:
>assume it's EQ anyway
>run a gram a week to be sure

>>41483735
I fucking hate clomid. It makes me emotional like a woman. I use dex, sometimes letro, nolva, and hcg

>>41483692
don't go in unprepared, and if you bought 2 10ml 250mg/ml vials then you should assume you will be able to get ~90% efficiency of volume and adjust your dosing to compensate or you will end up running low or out completely last few pins, which is fine because long esters build strength but it will jolt your system and stable test levels > peak levels

consider running @ 375mg/wk for 12 weeks(this factors in 90% efficiency) I know it seems like it's not a lot but again long esters build strength meaning your levels at week 8 with a month left will be much higher than 375mg... also I hope you plan to pin twice a week

>>41483819
you know an awful lot for a supposed natty ;^)

>>41483461
>farmer
who

>>41483826
I train physique competitors

>>41483829
LEAVE

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>>41483756
"everything is fake all the time" is my second favorite unfounded meme

>>41483837
was memeing anyway, I don't really give a fuck. but ok

>>41483817
personally I hate going blind

>>41483819
Could also front load by doubling the first injection dose and get levels up quicker for longer

>>41483819
>assume you will be able to get ~90% efficiency
people keep repeating this, is it just the LARPers? how the fuck do you lose 10% (an entire ml)? 1ml is a fucking crap ton of liquid. I lose probably less than .1ml per vial

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>>41483875
your source is giving you more or u using amps

for virtually all low cost syringes there is space that you can't push with plunger, if you know what you are doing you can make sure it's always filled with air and not accidentally inject yourself with air.... but between the residual left in that space and in every needle and the residual left in conventional vials that is impossible to get out with syringe ~90% efficiency is just normal...if you like your source/lab then great but for the avg person it's not smart to assume or plan to use everything and desu I prefer giving the people I train cycles that leave room for half a ml of every injectable left and tell them they can throw out what would have been a negligible amount or just put it all into last pin....

TL:DR it is normal, you are the exception, and having a source who gives you slightly more to compensate doesn't make the quality of gear better

>>41483982
there is nearly no residual left inside the vial. pushing out the extra liquid inside a pin is incredibly trivial, just pull an air bubble.

if you're wasting 1ml per vial you're doing it super wrong

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>>41483819
>>41483784
Well it's obvious I'll need to research even more before I even think of putting a needle in me, so I'll just hold what I've ordered for now until I can get EVERYTHING I need and make sure I don't fuck myself up.

I might be retarded, but I'm not gonna get myself fucked up or killed because I didn't research enough.

Thanks angry anon and Niggerman.

>>41484075
the wiki in the op isn't there for decoration btw

read all of it. you've been here for at least what, two weeks now? you have no excuse

>>41484096
I thought I'd gotten everything I needed to know from it, but apparently not by a long shot. So yeah, no excuse. Time to read some more.

>>41476672
Walmart you fucking mong

>>41477022
You're a fucking new grad. Of course you'd think the worst about pre-employment drug screening. Relax, your employers are more worried about you stealing fentanyl and morphine or being high on anything, than they care about you injecting chinese basement chemicals.
> "Oh no, Charles, we can't hire you with your testosterone that high"

Kys

t. crna

>>41480341
Never needed caber on tren ace cycles, esp when cycling high tren low test

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>>41484055
>conservative estimate

I personally have never lost a whole ml, I don't know what you don't understand about this, not everyone wants to hear "you can save up to a ml but try not to inject air into your body, if you do it won't be fatal as long as your not in a vein but if you are you will die, but probably fine" from someone they pay to train them when they have more than enough money not to scrounge, again you aren't only "losing 0.1ml" because you are soooo goood at injecting m8, do you really need something trivial to tell yourself you are better at than other people?

>>41484197
Didn't some guy in Sweden get arrested for looking too buff not too long ago? I'm sure shit like that doesn't make people any less paranoid in situations like this.

>>41484230
(((fake news)))/satire/meme

>>41484197
Shit you're a CRNA?

That's awesome. Is that job boring? I'm thinking about doing my 2 years in ICU and going straight into it. What other career path in nursing would you consider?

>>41484230
Sweden is not real life dude.

>>41484229
no, I want you to either stop being bad at injecting or stop propagating this 1ml loss meme

pull liquid, pull air bubble, push out air bubble. full syringe with no to nearly no air that wouldn't do anything even if you were inside a vein (which you can't even be if you know anything about injecting, nick one at worst)

>>41482185
LOL

if I take a baby dose of 400 test e a week do I even need AI?

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>>41483765
Kinda gettin bored here lil guy so I did some searching on the archive since you bluffed giving me real stats... lol, topped out at 220lbs, that means you were one of the guys who couldn't even hit 200lbs natty...

remember you are unable to quit steroids even if you wanted because the humiliation you will suffer from having the people you see every day watch you deflate like a retarded balloon and the crippling depression you will have from a completely fucked endocrine system and scorched earth nut sack that won't be able to produce levels of test even half of a normal mans for at least a decade will surely lead to suicide

you, like all your pictures are just illusions, of course you're on an internet forum, you are retarded(like me) unlike me it takes pictures that make you look huge

Have fun spending money on something you do to impress others, mostly online because let's be honest everyone irl who sees you knows you got a napoleon complex and can't live without drugs

sorry I have to embarrass you on the only real place where you can get any respect from other autists like us. I hope you find what you are looking for and don't realize to late that you fucked up your natural life to be an imitation bodybuilder.

>>41484706
no dude you're fine haha yolo

>>41484706
From what they've told me here, and what I've been reading, I'd have one just in case. Better to use it now and save yourself some bitch tits later.

what's the best routine to maximize gains while on gear, PPL twice a week?

>>41484978
FULLBODY SIX DAYS A WEEK FAGET

jk just do whatever, I personally love 5 day upper lower splits but that's arguably a matter of preference.

>>41484978
Whatever you feel you respond well to and whatever routine will keep you in the gym 5-6 days a week, that you'll follow through on.

No real magic "best routine" as long as you're in the gym lifting heavy weights for a lot of reps, you're fine.

>>41484978
Serge Nubret is popular for dat dere roid pump, but essentially what the none memeing half of >>41485027 and bimbo said.

what's the consensus on HCG dosage/when to start if I want to run it during my cycle? 500 iu e3d starting two weeks in?

>>41484344
see the thing is if there is no air in syringe then there will surely be some left where plunger can't reach and the 1ml will actually come true, your UGL just gives you extra, again this doesn't affect quality, I know guys with legit pharma who have been pinning for years and none have ever gotten 100% efficiency, anyway I am done talking to you stupid, so go pat yourself on the back somewhere

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So I'll be getting some raws soon possibly, couple questions.

Bold U or cyp?

Does winny give you any of the good feels like mDHT or proviron do?

Think it's worth it to pick up a gram of halo for fun and run it at like 10mg?

Do you guys like deca for cruising? I'd probably run it at like 300mg/wk but I really don't want deca dick.

>>41485627
cyp
no
lol do it faggot, should be fun
no (homeopathic NPP in my case)

>>41485657
Winny makes me feel great

>>41485352
stop using my tripcode, BN

>>41485352
> tfw my ugl didnt give extra
reee its literally only like a 30 cent difference

>>41485678
hurr durr I can google too

>>41485671
it does, but he asked if it's comparable to mDHT or proviron, which it kinda isn't, for me at least

I'm two weeks into a test e cycle and my doc is doing a blood test and urine test to check out a stomach issue I've been having. Will he know I'm on test or will something on the test alarm him?

>>41485736
I found it before you did actually

>>41479976

day 10 lost more lbs overnight, took a shit and weighed myself in at 248

feels good man.

starting to lose some strength on my lifts and sometimes unable to grind the last few reps out.

just psmf blog things

>>41485671
my gf cant catch up with my libido bimbo
wat do

>>41485829
hurr durr I googled first

>>41485847
get a second gf and a bf

>>41485847
get a fleshlight

>>41480101
Put in the effort, gains will come

To put it simply all you need for a pct is a SERM and AI and hcg?

>>41485887
>>41485927
you faggots didnt tell me about this part of the ride.

How much calories/protein on test/deca?
Not gaining much :/

>>41485964
is she at least willing to give you blowjobs?

>>41485860
I found it june 2016 btw

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>>41485964
Dump her.
Get a daki and an onahole.
Live free

>>41485979
Depends, doesnt it?
If you dont know how much to eat you havent been lifting long enough

Eat more if youre not growing

>>41486588
she might dump me but i am so drufnk rn so let it go
jery mery woodbery
post current form bby

>>41486588
>second set of 3D tits on daki midriff
DELET THIS

>>41482142
i remember you calling me very rude german names.

what gives, germany and russia are arguably one of the most christian countries right now.

>>41484706
personaly i dont need ai on 500 mg of test, take 50 mg dbol for first 4 weeks and see if you're gyno prone

>>41486652
Im gross rn

Why would a girl dump you for wanting sex
Arent they all nymphos?

>>41486669
Add in silicone daki implants? Yes plz

>>41486872
I've seen one online, """"realistic"""" titties and a built in cunt. But no way to buy one afaik, it was some DIY project I think.

>>41486706
>germany and russia are arguably one of the most christian countries right now.
kys

your country is the lead cause of the Muslim invasion in Europe

>>41487056
>a german citizen is at fault for their leaders mistake

yeah mate if i was allowed to vote you might have had a point there.

>>41487075
The citizens put the leader in place. They are to blame.

>>41487075
lmao bruh germans support this cuck rafugees welcome behaviour. Sure its the government letting these people in but i know alot of people even non-cucks who think "we should be proud for helping out these people".

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>>41487134
>if i was allowed to vote
dense mfer mate. better stereotype a whole country. also hows the US education, y'all finally figured out the earth is finally round? I heard some people had issues with that.

>>41487163
fuck that shit, noone wants this here. literally.

literally everyone thinks merkel should fuck off already and make those migrants undergo military training and send them back.

>>41487186
Mibby you should call Poland about all those holiday homes you guys left and deal with the muzzies in a more friendly manner

>>41487186
moosey is German

>>41487186
you know im neither left or right. The general idea of helping out people who flee from war is not a bad thing to do. But when there is a great number of mentally ill criminals, rapists or even terrorists then people should just shut the borders and try to help these people somewhere else.

Also muslims dont and never will fit into a christian country like germany. It just doesnt fucking work. Turks blend in somewhat fine compared to other mudslimes but thats it.

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Currently running 750 test c, 500 primo, 500 deca weekly and .25 anastrozol eod. (Blast and cruise 4life)

>Pinned low dose of Tren e for the first time a few days ago.
>Prepared for the worst of sides.
>No sides.
>Fuckyeah.gif

Going to slowly bring it up to 400mg a week and drop off the deca and primo. Wish me luck anons!
>Pic related, sweet sweet card load days.

>>41487280
t. roach

>>41487355
this must be bait

>>41487355
>tren E
>expected sides in a couple of days
>already increasing the dose
haha you're a fucking moron

>>41487361
its true tho. Yeah most are shit but i have a bunch of turks in friends cycles and in school classes who are liked by everyone n stuff.

Is TUDCA + NAC something I would be able to get at the local walgreens/walmart/GNC or do I need to order it online?

>>41488044
online

tudca is a meme

you niggers never answer hcg questions. are you all small balls?

>>41481935
when i was a medic we used to give ourselfs saline solution iv after a night of drinking.

i have this idea to try dnp and use cooled saline solutions to fight the heat and dehydration. but there has to be more thought put into this project to not die or fuck up.

solution nr 2, fill a tub full with cold water/ice and call it your new home

>>41488052
kys

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Where's my lifetime athletic breh?

>>41488085
What do you want? I use far too much HCG.

>>41487355
>500 primo
Y tho. Up it to 2g and I'm willing to bet that's probably not primo.

>>41481935
>But that heat... It's 2017 why hasn't there been something invented that cools the body by a few degrees like a counter pill to dnp.

i think DMAE helps with this

am I the only one who hate youtube videos that are like "x or y, which is better for NATURAL bodybuilders."
Are you implying that this tip wont be more effective for someone who is enhanced?

Seriously what are some good youtube channels for enchanced lifters?

>>41488289
There's no need to minmax for the average idiot on gear. Anyone worth their salt on gear has a coach minmax for them; otherwise regular idiots just let gear pick up their slack.

Natty nerds need a hand hold on what to do and when to do it, to eek out that extra percentage of efficiency.

>>41488289
Enhanced Athlete often talks about shit they don't sell etc

I want to try 250mg Test with my buddy. That's it. We're 23 and 24 y/o males. I've had noob gains for years and have been plateauing for a while now. What are the side effects I should be worried about?

>>41481935
DNP world by heating your body up, a pill that cools it down would stop the effects of DNP.

You want to extract the heat produced not stop the heat being produced.

>>41488434
lmao

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>>41488424
Prepare to be underwhelmed. That may take you above natural levels but nothing noticeable.

>>41488052
>>41488132
>Here lies Anonymous. He had a bright future ahead of him, a good job, and a kind heart, but because he thought that TUDCA is a meme he had to kill himself. It was all for the better.

>>41481935
You're in luck, they invented something like that in 70,000 BC. It's called "taking a cool bath"

>>41488113
>i have this idea to try dnp and use cooled saline solutions to fight the heat and dehydration. but there has to be more thought put into this project to not die or fuck up.
come on man as a medic you should know that's a fast path to hypothermia

Hello /fraud/ long time lurker and shitposter here.

I am on 1g of test e, 600mg Deca and 400mg Mast E. For orals I am on 100mg Var, love the stuff.

My problem is this. I am on vacation for a week. I prepinned 250mg extra Test on top of what I normally pin.
I also have the Var with me.

Will anything fucked up happen on this week with no injections? Have been on this cycle for 5 weeks with 3 days in for the vacation.

I read that I should be fine but on the inside I am flipping my shit. I still drink some extra protein shakes troughout the day together with 50mcg t3 to stay lean.

Will I be fine? I can't imagine missing an injection let alone having to skip a week.

>>41488618
thats why i said it needs more thought

although the hydration effects would be worthwhile. drinking 6liters+ can be tedious

>>41488681
do you even know how esters work?
you will be fine you taking e

>>41488720
I know exactly how they work.
Its the mental effect of missing injections that haunts me.

>>41478602
who is this seminal sentinel?

>>41486706
I have nothing against Germans or Russians. I'm just memeing. Although
>Germany
>Christian
teehee like 30% of Germans are non-religious.

>>41489080
and 59,6% of them are christians.

think besides portugal and slavic countries with shit education they are one of the top ones.

>>41489156
To be fair, majority of the non-religious ones come from East Germany. Don't know how East Germans ended up non-religious but Russia stayed Orthodox.

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Tren arrived. Yay.

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>test levels 1 point above the minimum
>dr won't give me test

I can't do overhead tricep extensions.

Any time I try, I get a weird popping and slight pain in my right elbow. No matter how small the weight, no matter how I vary the form, it always happens. I don't know what I'm doing wrong mommy please help me.

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*silently drops the bomb no one cares about*
>day 0: 86.4 kg
>day 1: ??
>day 2: 84 kg
>day 3: 83.6 kg
>day 4 83 kg
>day 5: 81.9 kg
>day 6: 82.4 kg
>day 7: 83.2 kg
>day 8: 82.3 kg
>day 9: 81.5 kg
>day 10: 80.1 kg
>day 11: 79.9 kg
>day 12: 79.7 kg
>day 13: 79.7 kg
>day 14: 78.8 kg
>day 15: 78.7 kg
>day 16: 78.8 kg

cba writing my story all over again, everyone I post this for already knows
ask away any questions and I might answer them later
FAQ:
>Are you roiding for this?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>Did you starve yourself, eating only veggies and raw ground meat for two weeks on 400 dnp ed while doing 45 mins of cardio every day on 500 test and 200 tren e5d for this?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>Are you a prime manlet?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>Is it true you eat raw ground meat because you're tired of tuna and cottage cheese and can't find any better source of meat that doesn't need cooking?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>Will you fuck off with your l*ddit memejak avatarfagging now that you're done?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>Do you regret not doing a clean bulk followed by a clean cut like you did last year which evidently gave much better results, rather than this year trying to memecut+bulk, then suicidecut because you neither didn't gain much and didn't lose much fat from it because you can't into strict diets?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>Will you maybe post yourself after rebounding?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>Will you definitely try to do a proper bulk and get some proper gains before being a retard and cutting again?
¯\_(ツ)_/
>Did I forget something?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>Can I laugh away now?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>41489206
thats a lot of tren

>>41489284
i expected worse.

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>>41489284
You definitely lost fat that's for sure. I honestly expected worse.

>>41489298
>a lot of tren
Th-that's the point desu.

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>>41489284

>>41489265
loose body
ulnar nerve subluxation
(rare and likely not) snapping triceps

if you get the nerve operated on, DO NOT get a submuscular transposition
get subcutaneous

i learned the hard way

>>41489284
youre a big guy

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>>41489298
>>41489310
>>41489320
>>41489343
You're too kind, god bless and good night

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>>41489284
>>41489368
sleep well rawanon

>>41489284
>dat resolution
this is why I lurk on my TV

I'm impressed though. Not exactly mirin, but yes, impressed. Expected way worse tbqfh. Post an additional one a week after with pump or so, last day pics of DNP hardly tell the whole story.

>>41479991
Just drink bleach you fucking pig

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>>41489476

>>41489476

>>41489476

is doxycycline worth using while on a cycle too?

antibiotic+helps with acne

>>41485847
Does winny give libido gains?