/fat/ "Learn to make a new thread" edition

>>41475508
I'm on IF, Just had my "lunch" at 3:30pm

Lunch was 2 scoops of GNC Wheybolic Extreme 60 Salted Caramel flavor

Stoked to lift tonight.

How are you achieving your goals, fat?

Sorry anon, I've been trying to keep up on making the new threads, but I guess it died while I was at the gym.

Pls keep this general going it's my biggest source of strength

>>41475621
Use to be 225lbs. Hit 181.8lbs this morning. Got a beach wedding in August I want abs for.
>>41475757
Agreed, this thread gives me strength. Its also the fastest moving thread on a normally slow /fit/. keeps things fun.

>tfw puked while warming up for rows
>they were my first exercise
spent like 20 mins cleaning the floor, THEN i did my workout. still feeling kinda shitty desu but at least i still worked out

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Started using this TDEE excel spreadsheet, not sure why some of the caloric values got fucked up though.

If anyone else wants to use it - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_5rAjRuYTwpSGpWcVVXbW9LMFU/view?ths=true

>>41475771
Mirin' your CW, anon. I'm >>41475621

Started at 328, currently 50lbs down at 277.8. Never going back. We're all gonna make it.

And yes, I agree, I <3 this thread :^)

>>41475780
file's protected bruh

>>41475780
Make it free grab. I ain't requestin' permission.

>>41475780
I've been tracking in MFP. Once I hit the 6 month mark I'm going to export the data then put it into tableau (a data analysis/visualization program that I work with) and come up with some cool graphics for you guys.

5'4" 192 lb girl with a goal of 130 lbs.
Going to start 600 cals a day on Sunday. I'm tired of being fat.

>tfw binged over mother's day weekend until yesterday
guess i wont be eating for the next week

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>>41475795
>>41475799
>>41475817

Sorry fa(m) I don't use google docs much.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8EbfzFB0mBrMGJ6V2N5QWNfeTg/view?usp=sharing

>>41475817

my MFP, been tracking for 2 years straight now.

I'm working on losing weight (started at 240 pounds as 5'11, now 220), but I'm quite disheartened by the fact that no matter what I do I'm going to have a nasty former fatass body when I'm done that nothing but surgery can get rid of. Are there any tips for making it subtler?

>>41475819
>5'4
>130 lbs
why are you setting a goal that will still leave you fat?

>>41475852
some girls have big frames, big tits, or prefer being a lil chubby. i dated a girl in HS who was in great shape, but was 145lbs@5'7''

>>41475838
Lift

>>41475819
I'm rooting for you anon! Go hard!

>was 285lbs
>currently 262lbs

This is between December and now, how well am I doing so far? Redpill me.

>>41475852
That's in the 'normal' range for BMI and around 24% bodyfat. Not fat, though certainly also not slim. Just normal.

>>41475909
any progress is good progress.

>>41475835
Do a data export, anonymize, and post so I can start building the dashboard in tableau? Two years is plenty of data.

Once I get the thing working, I should be able to allow users to import their own data into the dashboard so they can see their own progress visualized across various KPIs

>>41475920
I mean is that good, average or bad for how much I've lost between December and today?

>>41475909
>>41475920
What this anon says is true to an extent. You're going kinda slow, but honestly if it's sustainable and you don't have any specific deadline, keep doing what you're doing anon.

>>41475957
just under a pound a week
sounds right to me

>>41475918
nigga that's fat af desu

>>41475959
It's bad then, okay I'll reduce my calorie intake more.

>>41475970
An anon who is good with maths, I was wondering if I keep this up by the end of the year how much would I lose?

>>41475974
Whoa whoa whoa nigger. Wait just a minute.

I didn't say bad, I said kinda slow.

What is your height, weight, age, activity level, and daily caloric intake?

I'm here to help.

>>41475971
Not as fat as you are.

>>41475983
>http://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php

>>41475974
this notion of bad or good isnt healthy. you need to make sustainable lifestyle changes. if you want to lose weight fast go get a tape worm but you wont be healthy.

if what you are doing is making you stronger and losing weight, then keep at it.

>>41475819
Why are you restricting so much?

>>41475983
off the top of my head, 32lbs
probably less because your TDEE will go down

>>41475508
What happened to the last thread?

It went over 300lbs?

>>41475909
Well if you really want the good/bad rating then its bad.
Most people who stick to a diet and gym lose AT LEAST 15 pounds in 2 months and you lost 23 in almost 6 months

fat fucks

>>41476041
my bmi is 21

>>41476041
skinny dyel manlet

>>41476034
went over 350lbs.

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>>41476048
>>41476050
>being this new

>>41476005
true. but that doesn't mean she's not going to still be fat

>>41475997
6ft, 262lbs, 24, 4 days 1 hour gym sessions, 1800 - 2000 calories on average
>>41476007
Thank you will take a look.
>>41476015
I know but I want to be sure if there is a better way to lose more than a pound a week.
>>41476030
Hmm so at best 230lbs at the end of the year, any way to improve these numbers?
>>41476036
So I should be a lot slimmer than I already am, I'll have to cut down my calories by 200 see if this helps.

>>41476108
personally m8 I've lost 133lbs since september with diet alone
could have lost more if I tried harder, but as has been said; progress is progress

>>41476108
at what you're eating, do more cardio and don't reduce calories any further. you're already right around your BMR most likely

>>41476108
yeah 1600 cal a day sounds good, but if you wanna speed up the process 1300 a day is also great

>>41476137
Thats the numbers I want to go for, what was your caloric intake?
>>41476170
Any risks of further reducing my calories?
>>41476171
I think its possible for me to do 1300, what are the risks involved if I stick to this?

If I'm 220 at 5 foot 10 inches tall will i have loose skin when I get down in weight? Will it go away.

>>41476201
low, under 1k
don't want to say exactly because people will berate me
but 8 months on and I'm sticking to it

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>>41476041
sup

>>41476201
I don't know about risks for you tho, but check websites like >>41476007 and myfitnesspal.
Make sure to enter your details, myfitnesspal suggested 1350 for me so see what it'll tell you

>>41476266
According to this if I stick to 1500 calories a day with 1 - 3 days to 3 - 5 days exercise every week I'll be at my healthy weight between November and December this year if I start tomorrow.

I will make it bros, fuck living a fatty for another year.

>3lbs in 25 days
this is getting fucking stupid now
I'm on the cusp of being under 170 and it's just such a slog

>>41475780
>>41475835
This is pretty neat. I may skew the unholy hell out of my numbers because of fucking around last Friday and Saturday but the second week should be more uniform.

Broke keto, drank a lot and watered up. Jumped up like 8 lbs because of that. Lost 6 since Sunday and now we're straightening back out but sheit. I don't reckon my TDEE is quite as good as ~4775

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Can I get a quick rundown on keto?

Already being steady with my cut and losing more than anticipated with cardio
Already doing 16:8 IF
Already doing cold-ass showers
I want to jump into keto because I'm eating
205g protein
90g fat
65g carbs
average per day, and I could easily make the change to keto, but I read a lot of shit in the keto meme thread especially shit about it eating away at your muscles, so I'm hesitant

Does the keto meme actually help any or is it purely calories in / out?

>>41476739
if it makes you feel like you're accomplishing something, then I suppose it 'works'

>>41476719
Burns fat once it kills your carbs. You'll have less energy at the gym but no muscle decay.

Google 'keto ankerl' to get all your status, but you'll have to cut your protein down and lower your carbs to 20g a day, 50g net carbs max.

>>41476739
Both? I've noticed significant fat loss on keto, but I've also been on a large cut.

>>41476746
I've lost weight already but it's water weight so I don't want to be excited for nothing.

>>41476739

It helped serious curb my greatest weightloss enemy: hunger. I lost 50 lbs counting calories and exercising but I would still go to bed hungry every night. Now with keto I struggle to hit 1500 Calories a day since I have almost no appetite with all the fat and protein. Its great.

>stop drinking fizzy drinks
>lose 5 kg in a month no excercise
>start drinking coke zero
>gain 3.5 kg in a month
Its the devil i tell you

Good morning /fat/

>>41476739
It certainly helps in managing hunger. Not for strength training tho, purely for fat loss. I also notice that I can quickly shed fat but not that much

will this break a water fast?


http://www.coca-colaproductfacts.com/en/coca-cola-products/vitaminwater-zero/

>>41476963
>buying fizzyjew's products

>>41476892
>switch from normal coke to coke zero
>down 13kg in a couple months with no other diet changes
Sugary soda is the spawn of Satan. I just like to always sip something cold with a taste and diet coke fixed the extra calories issue. Never felt any extra hunger or anything, I eat as usual.

Is it possible to go from fat to ottermode or does the loose skin make it impossible?

>>41476996
did you actually look at the nutrition facts on it

>>41476041
Bless you

>>41477033
Depends on how fat you are. Height and weight?

>>41477137
6 feet
240 lbs

I used to be skinny and good shape but fell for the alcoholism meme, I want to look like my old self or at least close to it

>>41477152
You can get there man easily. 240 isn't too fat. I've fluctuated from 125kg to 60kg up to 80kg and then back up to 110kg, now down to 85kg. You can pull off ottermode, just care for your skin with coconut oil and cocoa butter. Aim for around 150lbs. Good luck man!

>>41477152
I think you'll be okay. It usually shows up on guys who are 300+ and average height, so you're probably safe. Stretch marks are likely a given, but don't let that discourage you.

okay you fuckers you convinced me to start counting calories even though I'm quite sure it isn't necessary at my weight level.
current - 370. goal - <300
TDEE - 3314
chosen macros - 60% fat, 36% protein, 4% carbohydrate

these macros good?

Started IF and lost 5 lbs in 3 days. Feels good lads. I was losing around 2lbs ever 3-4 days so hopefully I can keep this up.

>>41477561
whats your weight? 2lbs every 3-4 days is a lot. dont expect that to last.

>>41477561
I thought IF doesn't do much for besides giving you better sleep, recovery, and lessening hunger, and that keto was for mad loss gains

Formerly 270 lbs at the end of January. Down to 244 as of today. Been currently chilling out around 2000 cal /2988 TDE(without exercise). Goal is 225 by end of summer and 200 by end of year. I've been using FatSecret to track calories (similar to MFP, but I like the UI better).

Keep on keeping on fellow fatties. And if you like sweet drinks, tea sweetened with Stevia is your friend.

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It's time to admit that I haven't been tracking all of my calories for the past 2 weeks and I've put like fucking 7 pounds back on. I don't know how or why this happens but it stops now.

I'm my own worst fucking enemy and I don't even do it on purpose. Just negligent.

>>41477579
I'm 5'11 and started at 240 mid-April. I'm 212 today. Was 217 just two days ago.

And to be fair I don't really expect it to continue like this for long. But at least it's going faster than before. I felt like I was stalling around 220.

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>>41477661
Forgot to post the pic with this, stay motivated y'all.

>>41477585
Your body supposedly starts burning more fat and your metabolism goes up around 8-12 hours without eating.

>>41477667
Git back on that pony and ride, sucka.

>>41477667
Losing track of your calories for a short time is one thing. But 7 pounds in two weeks? That shit is scary. Good luck reversing that m8. You can do it.

>was 6'0" 260
>now 6'0" 225

Only 35 more lbs to go. Half way there. When I hit around 200 I'm going to reevaluate what body weight I want to be at.

I'm naturally a fairly big guy, broad shoulders, barrel chest, etc. so I don't know where exactly I want to be.

>>41477713
What's crazy is I wasn't eating shit like fast food and ice cream and all that. I eat the same thing every day, just more of it recently. Yogurt, vegetables and usually a steak/chicken/fish for dinner.

>>41477739
Damn. So did you stop counting because you thought you were safe? Or did you just get lazy about it?

>>41477761
Just got lazy desu.

6' 2 265 here
Is KETO a meme?

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How do I stop having the lower end of a 40 year old post pregnancy woman? I'm happy with how my upper body is looking but fuck these love handles man.

>>41477872
gotta keep losing weight.

Guess I'll be skipping dinner tonight, they had little chicken tacos at work tonight and I dun goofed :(

as a skelly i dont understand how you guys have so much trouble not eating

i have to gomad to get any gains

>>41477893
food is good

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FUCK DAD STOP BUYING PIZZA

>>41477953
I know this feel. My dad has been buying shit food non stop since I announced my diet. I think he wants me to stay fat so he can keep bragging about how he was so in shape when he was my age.

Jokes on him though if I can stay in shape when I'm his age.

>>41477953
Get a new dad.

Just bought some Ephedrine and going to try an EC stack for 2 weeks starting tomorrow.

Redpill me one final time before I start

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I'm bored that I can't start my new diet until Saturday when I can get groceries. Gonna eat a tilapia fillet, 2 boiled eggs, and 3 bananas every day. See what happens. First time monitoring my food. I'm sure the macros aren't great but I don't care too much.

>>41477667
how the fuck do you casually put back on 7 lbs??? even not counting calories you have to be cheating every other day or something to tack on that weight in that short amount of time

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I found out that can buy enough broccoli and lentils to last an entire weeks worth of suppers for like $15.

just add hot sauce and mama-mia you got a meal

>>41478100
Works.

Want to make it supereffective and have your heart beat to the rhythm of the cosmos?

L-Tyrosine. 500mg added to your EC.

>>41478113
>3 bananas
certainly better than traditional sweets, but I'd recommend cutting fruits out of your diet

>>41478124
broccoli is god-tier

>>41475909
>This is between December and now, how well am I doing so far? Redpill me.
you are doing great, keep it up

I've been overweight ever since middle school. How do I find out what my ideal weight is supposed to be?

>>41478174
What if I only eat them shortly before a workout?

I'm 6'1 225 pounds. Been doing SS for a bit now with decent results but I feel like Im stalling and deloading early. My lifts are
Squats 225 3x5
Deadlift 285 1x5
Bench 140 3x5
Ohp 80 3x5
Rows 135 3x5

I'm stuck on bench and ohp and had to deload on them and squats. I'm on a caloric deficit as well. Should I do a different lifting routine or just stick with SS

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I fucked up. I put lots onions and peppers into the crock pot of beans thinking it would enhance the flavor. All it did was add tasteless fiber with a nasty mouth feel. This is 8 meals work of beans too. God damn it.

>>41478253
Age, height, sex and current weight?

>>41478351
Did you fry them before adding them to the pot? You don't get the flavour unless you fry them up first, otherwise they just stew and taste disgusting. Next time, fry them up with a little salt and pepper before adding them

>>41478363
Yes that's what a lot of websites do, but if I use those tools and those stats my ideal weight is anywhere from 165 to 210. Is there a more thorough method to get something more precise or is my only option to just visit a doctor/dietician?

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This shit is getting so hard. I can do the diet, but the weight lifting is killing me.

>>41477004
I always have to make sure I have a cold bottle of water or sparkling water nearby or I get super tempted to buy soda.

>>41478471
No I was asking for those. Depends on your build and make up. I'm 6'2" and quite broad shouldered. I've been as low as 65kg and even though not technically underweight, I looked quite emancipated. The best way to judges how you feel; some are more comfortable at the lower end of the BMI for normal (18ish) whilst others prefer the higher end (24). Find where you feel the most comfortable. Starting goal should be to lose 20lbs, and then from there keep pushing your bf% down towards the 10-13% mark. From there, you can decide if you prefer to stay lean or start a bulk, moving between 10% and 20% as you bulk and cut.
>>41478515
What's your routine look like? You might be pushing too much volume

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I took my gf out for dinner and we got cheeseburgers, fries, and a giant cookie with ice cream on top.

>>41478564
that sounds tasty, anon. as long as it's once in a while, like when you take your SO out for dinner, you'll be okay. if you're really worried, do a little bit of extra cardio to compensate.

>>41478515
I've gotten to the point where I have shit strength unless I work out just after dinner (which is usually my largest meal of the day).

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>>41478559
>What's your routine look like? You might be pushing too much volume
This plus some curls of the deadlift weight. It is a heavy cut so I don't plan on increasing weight much. Also I don't have the proper equipment at all.

I'm cleaning to squat/OHP and using a foam roller to bench. Plus the weights are not olympic, so it is hard to do deadlifts.

>>41476210
Probably not. I've been 233 at 5'8 and never had loose skin problems.

>>41478564
This >>41478574
Don't let your diet destroy what's important to you. If you really feel guilty, subtract an extra 200cals from each day for the rest of the week. That sounds like a lovely time.
>>41478576
Have you tried having a PWO? Personally I have an espresso with half an apple 30min before gym give me a boost in energy.
>>41478586
>that volume
Did you even read SS? Cmon man you're gonna burn yourself out, especially at a heavy deficit. Alternate days
>A
Back squat
Ohp
Bent over rows
chin ups
>B
Front squat
Bench press
Deadlift
Dips

Add in a few accessories after those IF you still have the energy. Right now you're overloading yourself every workout

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>>41478515
stop eating processed junk

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>>41478664
>Did you even read SS?
Do you? Because what you posted is not SS, this pic is.

Also no, I'm not fully doing the program. You can even see that by my spreadsheet from my other post. Notice no A or B?

I'm on a severe fatty cut and don't have the equipment to do SS. I've doing my best with what I have and I have lost 8 pounds in two weeks so far with a combination of this, cardio (exercise bike), and a big cut.

Hey /fat/, I noticed I'm not eating like a pig and lost 7kg in the past 2 months so I decided to get /fit/. How do you guys handle being a fat fuck going to a local gym for the first time?

5'7
August 2016
240
May 2017
165
75 pounds lost and I feel much better. I need to start lifting though but I have no idea what to do.

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>>41478769
>but I have no idea what to do.

>>41478763
>Count Calories
>Count Calories
>Count Calories
You can work out for hours and see no results if you still eat like shit.

>>41478781
I've started doing just that, my man. I'm learning to follow everything from the sticky and the OP, I just need some help for my social autism.

>>41478780
SS or 5x5?
I heard mix things.

>>41478793
Go early in the morning or late at night.
If you can't, create a tolerance level by first going in for a short amount of time then increase it once you get more comfortable.

>>41478794
For a beginner it doesn't matter. SS is good because it is for a new person. Though the nutrition sections shouldn't be followed because they are tailored to skinny junior high males if you ask me.

>>41478819
t-thanks anon

>>41478668
Look at those macros though.
>that salmon
>that chicken

Calories were so low I had to make a protein shake with icecream to hit calories.

>>41478849
I think it more important to go in with a plan. Plan to go in, look around, hit the treadmill, lift some weights and go home. You aren't there to exercise, but to see if you like the place.

>>41478277
pls respond.

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Rate my face gains anons
November - May

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>>41478953

>>41478939
Sorry kid but you can't do the program with a calorie deficit. Read the sticky or the book and they both say you can't increase lifts without eating. Sticky says you only need a 300-500 calorie surplus, but SS book says a lot more to increase faster.

>>41478953
You look mixed.

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>>41478863
yeah I'm looking at one macro and seeing that it's all coming from refined grains and added sugar. take the brown pill anon.

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>>41478965
What are you looking at? Most of the sugar (36 out of 59 grams) is coming from ice cream and hersheys syrup. Stuff I only ate because calories were too low.
I forgot my egg, but I had salmon patties for dinner.

>>41478755
I never said what I recommended was SS; sorry for the confusion. I meant that you should alternate your heavy lifts so you have more time to recover between. Thought it might help with the fatigue with lifting; my bad if I came off condescending or aggressive, wasn't my intention.

>>41478959
Well what kind of lifting should I be doing then?

>>41479018
Okay that makes sense. My cut is too severe to increase much at all. This week I'm fine with fatigue. Last week I did have to skip workouts, but that was mainly because I hit it hard week one. 8 pound loss in two weeks is a lot for a body I guess.

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I lost 39.5 pounds in the last 74 days (265 to 225.5) do I show any of the traditional "rushed weight loss" signs?
5'10, to be clear

>>41479048
What the fuck kind of pose is that
It's like you're trying your fucking hardest to stretch out your stomach so it looks slightly flatter

>>41479023
>Well what kind of lifting should I be doing then?
In an ideal world you would bulk and lift heavier weights then cut with a goal of just maintaining those weights. You may slightly increase weights (during a cut) because of muscle efficiency gains, but overall it is basically impossible to increase weights with a heavy cut.

What do I suggest?
Well look at mine:
>>41478586
I'm on a heavy cut and the lifts are easier but increasing them much isn't going to work.

>>41479060
that's not an answer to the question I asked.

>>41479048
>>41479070
Giant stretch marks like you got ran over with a tire.

>>41479037
Yea that's quite a deficit. Jesus... maybe slow it down a bit. Give that routine I suggested a try and see how it feels. If nothing else you should have more time to recover on OHP and bench.

>>41479077
those have been there for a while. I don't think their leaving anytime soon

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>>41479085

>>41478992
your fiber intake is heck of low is what I was getting at, and you ate basically nothing that isn't processed (which ties into the first bit). I'd put down money that you would have more energy for lifting if you swapped some of the boxed stuff out for veg and beans.

>>41479084
>Yea that's quite a deficit. Jesus...
Well in due fairness the first week had a lot of water weight. Still I'm curious what my weekly weigh in on sunday will be. This week has been hard fought.

>>41478664
>Have you tried having a PWO?
Nah, I tend to do resistance training at night, so caffeine is not in the cards. I'm sure it's helpful if you train in the morning or daytime, however.

>>41477409

How many calories are you going to eat?

Or are you just planning tracking what you're eating now? Because that's what is sounds like. But the truth is that's 1000 times better than not counting them because it means you're not lying to yourself.

It would be a challenge to eat 3300 calories without carbohydrates. That's like two dozen scrambled eggs and 2 chicken breasts a day and you've still got room for more.

>>41479097
wouldn't a tire leave one thick red line, not two small ones on either side?

>>41479101
>your fiber intake is heck of low
I don't track or care about fiber. I do usually eat more broccoli, but I was starving after lifting/showering and ate the salmon patties as soon as I fried them up. As for processed stuff. I still had milk, egg, oil. The salmon sure was processed but they didn't add carb filler, just some vegetable broth. All that was in my store to make patties. Even the Tyson stuff was lower carb than what they usually offer.

>got my first pump
feels good man

but still fat

>>41479127
I don't know. I was never ran over.

>>41475835
You pay for the premium shit? Is it worth it?

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>>41475835
>https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8EbfzFB0mBrMGJ6V2N5QWNfeTg/view?usp=sharing
This seems like total bullshit. How does it know my tdee without height, age adjustments?

>>41479108
Yea I know the feeling; I can almost guarantee that 90% of the weight I lost on first weigh in was water weight from ditching Pepsi out of my diet.
>>41479110
Ahhh that makes sense. That sucks man. I work nights so I have a biphasic sleep pattern, so I'm used to laying in bed and going straight to sleep.

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>>41479147
You don't need the premium jew to lose weight.

>>41477685
that pic is not true to me.
My intensity for my body is increasing as I get better, but it's still just as tough as I started.

I have 6 weeks to lose weight..

>>41479256
When did you start?

I get light exercise at work stocking shelves at a grocery store and unloading the truck, i started counting calories and stuck with a 2000 calorie diet. I've lost 4 lbs in 5 days, 236 to 232. Is this normal or am i losing it to fast?

>>41479264
Nearly a year ago. I got really into running and started eating more to accommodate my bigger runs, but for like half a year now I have stopped running but kept eating..

>>41479266
First week is usually a lot of water weight coming off. Mattter of fact by the third week when the weight loss really slows, that's the real weight loss and usually the point people quit because they feel their effort isn't being paid back.

>>41479275
You may want to do 6 weeks of keto, only because you tend to lose water weight much more quickly with that diet. It is temporary of course and like any diet is ultimately dependent on calorie deficit. Still if you only have 6 weeks, then that is your best option.

>>41475508
I lost 110 pounds. I stuck to my regiment religously. Now im so depressed my efforts fall apart after a couple days and i rarely leave my bed. What happened

>>41479611
Dunno, you tell us. You don't sound like a weak willed faggot.

>>41479195

it doesn't it's just a general guide, after you use it for a while it might be more accurate.

>>41479621
I've been trying to move out of my grams place for over a year. It's purgatory and i want a life. Everything i do ends up falling through. I gave it my all

>>41478793
I was the same way dude, super insecure going to the gym, it just takes frequency. Gym is like a second home to me now, I'm super comfortable there. But I could barely walk in when I started. Just fucking force yourself to go in the first week and I bet you'll get over it.

>>41479671
Well, you can give up or you can keep forcing yourself to try. Feeling sorry for yourself certainly won't help you any.

Hey faggots

5'10, 195lbs

signed up for a gym today
just gonna try some machines out tomorrow and use hand weights

after that I should go SS or 5x5 right?

>>41478124
I go with mustard, sounds weird but shit I love it

>>41479696
Ice Cream Fitness won't make you look like a T-Rex. Those other two programs will. Unless you're a girl in which case being bottom heavy is attractive.

>>41479747
what the fuck does any of this mean

what is ice cream fitness
also i think im just gonna try this tommorow give me your thoughts anon

http://idreamz.nl/fileshuttle/a61c00d6.pdf

I went from 96 to 86 but I'm still overweight. Now at least I'm movable enough to do cardio. So I started going to the gym two weeks ago. I'm going every second day. Feels good

>>41478957
you look better anon
good job

>>41475852
That's not fat. You clearly don't know anything about girls so lol
>>41476027
I hate slow weight loss.

>>41479671
keep trying or live with gran forever

>>41478559
You make a good point. I'm way overweight right now so I'll just continue my calorie counting, water, and exercise routine to continue progressing until I hit a couple milestones. At that point I'll think about a permanent target weight.

>>41480160
Sounds good man; there's no point worrying about mortgage repayments before you have the deposit for a home. Same should go for your body; put in the ground work then look at the big picture.

Does maintaining a proper ratio of sodium intake to water intake help in any way in regards to the ratio of fat and water weight loss? Or am I just retarded and wasting my time with pointless brainstorming?

>>41480212
Higher sodium levels increases water retention. Honestly I wouldn't worry too much about sodium intake unless it's something stupidly large. Just make sure you drink 3-4L of a water a day and you should be fine

>>41479747
You will look like blaha tho

so I was thinking about keto, my diet is currently 70-80% fat, 20-25% protein, and 5% carbs. couldn't I just ditch all the fat and eat the protein and carb amounts i currently am and the rest of the fat comes from my body?

/fat/ should be banned.
Fat people congregating in a thread will allow fat people logic to seep in and retard progress.

Fat people should integrate themselves into /fit/ and absorb the information being posted.

t. Fat guy.

>>41480420
I don't want to be /fit/. I just want to not be fat.

t. guy who was morbidly obese until a month ago

>>41480420
I thought so too but the information here is pretty much the same across fit. People saying they can't lose weight are told they're eating too many calories or being retarded fatties.

>>41480420
You didn't even read any of the threads, did you?

/fat/ is a great place where people motivate each other, share usefull information and answer each others questions.

rainman where u at

>>41480420
It's not like we're all in here talking about eating cake and what good toppings to put on ice cream m8. If you really hate it that much then think of this thread as a containment for all the noobs who want to be /fit/ but aren't even close yet.

>>41480485
This. It helps contain some of the "I CANT LOSE WEIGHT" and new posters. I can't imagine what it'll look like at New year's next year.

>>41480420
>>41480485
>>41480476

Yeah, I just feel more comfortable here tee-bee-ech. It's nice being in a place where you know people have some semblance of similar life experience (being fat and it's repercussions) and they still want to work to better themselves (get /fit/)

>>41479611
Brain chemical imbalance likely related to weight change and the runners high wearing off.

>>41480360
You could but that isn't keto.

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why in blueberry fuck does myfitnesspal calculate food by servings? ass backwards piece of shit.
I hate fitday too but at least with custom entries it makes fucking sense

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>>41480571
You can change it to gram and shit. Though it depends on how it was registered.

>>41480571
Because the food is in servings? I never understood weighing food. Seems so fucking autistic and pointless.
Buy 3lbs of chicken. Convert to OZ. Divide by how many servings you make. Literally seconds of mental math.

Weighing is pointless.

>>41480612
>Buy 3lbs of chicken. Convert to OZ.
>Weighing is pointless.

Are you retarded? Obviously it's pointless if it already tells you the weight. You still need to weigh the foods that don't come labeled with a weight.

>>41480212
Water weight is in constant flux. Ignore it and focus on your weight loss trend. But you should try to reduce your sodium intake to around 2000 mg per day.

>>41480612
>Because the food is in servings?

Do you only eat pre-packaged food? Try buying some fresh fruits and veggies some time anon.

lads

if i eat at 700 kcal deficit a day and i suddenly started eating at maintence how much would i gain back on average

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>>41480592
I've tried, it's never intricate enough and I can't customize local foods to the point where it's accurate and not a pain in the ass to log when there are small differences by weight per portion

>>41480612
I measure 100g once, add that to my list and use simple decimal multiplication to work out calories and nutrients by weight because no slab of chicken or head of broccoli is equal

>>41480728
You would go back to the maintenance weight.

If you're eating a 700KCal deficit, then you will continue to lose weight until that deficit is actually your maintenance.
If you were to revert to maintenance for your weight at X, then you will gain weight until you reach X.

>>41480118
I'm 5'2" and 120lbs

5'4" at 130lbs has to be fat if I'm this fat

>>41480664
Chicken is sold by the weight bro.

>>41480699
>Weighing veggies and fruit
Lmao do people really do this?
There are so little calories you can just overestimate. One sweet potato, find the biggest one in mfp. A banana, find the biggest one. Apple, orange, find the biggest serving in MFP (typically large as a size). If you're penny pinching fucking calories so you can eat more you're never going to make it.

>>41480973
>Lmao do people really do this?

Yeah. People who want to make sure they're not overeating and actually take weight loss seriously.

Keep ignoring what you're putting into your body and telling yourself it's no big deal you chubby fuck.

>>41480973
>If you're penny pinching fucking calories so you can eat more you're never going to make it.

That's a strange way to look at it. This makes me think you either think about doing this or have done it in the past.

>>41480954
Sorry but my diet doesn't consist solely of chicken you dumbass.

I'll repeat what I said. You still need to weigh the foods that don't come labeled with a weight.

>>41480989
You missed the part where he IS counting them and purposefully over estimating

>>41480973
Actually I always round up on my calories. But I still measure them to make sure I know what I'm getting. Acting like this is foolish is dumb.

If you're too lazy to count your calories then you're probably too lazy to commit to losing weight. Which is why you still post on /fat/

>>41480989
Ignoring? The fuck are you talking about? I eat veggies and fruit but I'm not weighing the handful of fucking grapes or the single orange. Completely autistic. You can even get serving sizes for how many grapes, there is literally no need to weigh shit.

>>41481000
You don't. You just need to learn portions.

>>41481006
I've already lost 90lbs and steadily losing the last 25. Never weighed shit.

>>41481001
You can't over-estimate when you don't know how many calories you're consuming. Over-estimating is for shit with labels that are probably lying to you.

>>41481010
What are you buying that can't be overestimated?
Carrots and broccoli can come in bags with labels. Even if you don't trust labels you can find servings per stock or stick.

Singular fruit such as bananas, oranges, apples, or veggies like cucumbers and full sized carrots have size options in myfitnesspal. Pick the largest, always.

160cm tall female with a sad situation. Used to be 50-53kg at most, then for one summer got to 40kg. Then for a few months lost control and gained to 57kg. Lesson about crash dieting learned. Since last year been slowly losing it and now I'm at 53-54kg. Not even sure what my goal weight is anymore desu.

>>41481056
You are right in the middle of normal weight measured by bmi, so I think at this point it's more about what you personally want.

Are there any routines that are specifically good for /fat/asses who have made it? Like 130lb skinnyfats and skellingtons with no muscle.

>>41478957
A lot better but you still look underegg so get some facial hair in there

>>41481127
sticky

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>>41479048
stand straight anon...

>>41480481
I'm here what's up?

>>41480481
>>41481149
Was running class, only just got home.

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>walking on a street
>see a fat guy around my age on the other side
>belly protruding in front of him tucked in his jeans, moobs resting on top, clothes barely able to contain him
>always hated looking at people like that because it reminded me how I probably appeared to other people
>always felt the need to convince myself that I'm not that huge, yet deep down I knew that could possibly be my future
>going past a glass building, see my reflection
>look nothing like the guy on the other side, actually starting to resemble an average human being
>rather than being disgusted I feel good about myself

t-thanks /fat/, I wouldn't have even started without you

>Bought minced meat
>no calorie/nutrition information

FUCK

>>41481160
What kind of meat?

>>41481157
>>41481157
I love this feel. Where did you start and where are you now anon? I went from 260 to 210. I wasn't insanely fat but I could feel myself really getting close to embarrassing levels. I feel like I pulled out just in time.

>>41481157
Proud of you man! The best feeling is slowly seeing your humanity coming back to you.
>tfw we were at the wrong end of leaving humanity behind
>>41481160
What kind of meat? You can get a decent profile for most kinds online.

>>41479696
30 min cardio then do strength faggot

>>41481165
>>41481176

Beef

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>>41481056
hey there, I'm a 165cm female with 62 kgs looking to achieve 55 kgs goal weight with 15% body fat. It should look like something picture related, but for a womanlet size obviously.
Maybe look at it in terms of body composition rather than weight goals, think of muscle mass vs body fat percentage, and how physically you want to look, ie "muscular", "toned", "bulky" (for me), and then guess/estimate what does that entail in terms of bf%, kgs to lose of fat, kgs of muscle to gain.

Would multivitamin help me get myself to do something for myself?

I can't get myself to do anything, i am always tired but i don't do anything. Would it help?

>>41481203
multivitamins are just one of those things that don't REALLY help anything, but there isn't really a good reason not to take them either. So no, it wont do dick if you aren't willing to make other changes.

If you are looking for a pill to take to help motivate you to start then you aren't ready or prepared to lose weight. Fuck off until you have real resolve.

>>41481183
Do you know th quality? Here in Aus we have star rating depending on fat content. If not, always overestimate calories eaten. Look up "beef mince 3 star" and you should get about the right result

>>41481183
Type minced beef on MFP and pick the highest calorie, or one of the highest.

>>41481224
>>41481183
You're looking on average of 250cals per 100g with regular mince

>>41481203
Vit D.
Zinc.
They're not miracle workers bit you're likely defecient.

>>41480973
One apple can range between 100 and 300 calories depending on size.

>>41481258
>300 calorie apple
Are you sure you aren't eating an entire pineapple and confusing it for an apple

>>41481270
>not eating 600g apples
Confirmed for not making it

>>41481258
No they fucking can't retard. At most 150 based on TYPE of apple. But it's not like apples vary that much in size.
A large golden delicious is almost always around 110.

how fat do you have to be to be allowed to post here?

we /fatapples/ now
>tfw honeycrisp apples are 4$ a pound
>tfw pink ladies are small as fuck

I don't know if you guys have these, but look for pinata apples next time you go out, might just be a socal thing. Pretty cheap, large, and good taste/texture

>>41481308

fuck off we apple posting now

>>41481294
>it's not like apples vary that much in size
They can get pretty damn big, man. Pretty sure I had some 400g ones before.

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What are some simple meals for someone that wants to go on a keto diet but can't cook and is a poorfag?

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>>41481199
me here, I have a question concerning putting on muscle mass after weight loss, how much lean mass do you think a woman (165cm, 55kgs at approx. 20% bf - at the time I will start weight training) can put on and how long it would take to get to 15% bf at the same weight? I'm thinking it should take something between two to four years right?
Right now I want to shed 5 kgs before I start the gym in a couple months (for financial reasons), I know that the last 5 are the hardest, but I am doing IF and keto with a calorie intake of 1200 cals and 35mins with free weights weight training at home and 20 mins cardio with a step machine (a gift) everyday. Anyways, thanks for your insight, predictions, it really helps me visualize a time frame at which my goal is feasible. Pic related, the "look" I am going for.

>>41481363
bacon
cheese
chicken

>>41478957
>>41478953
Please close your lips, you fucking mouthbreather.

That being said, good progress. Keep it up.

>>41481174
I started around 260 aswell, so not really in the huge territory yet, but I still felt extremely self conscious about my weight and whenever I saw one of the 300+ guys I felt like I was one of them. Having huge man boobs and overall pretty feminine fat distribution made it even worse.

Not really sure what I'm at now, to be honest I haven't stepped on a scale since I started. I guess not knowing my exact progress might be a bad idea, but I was scared of being disappointed, and now I don't really feel the need to know.

>>41481363
Anybody can cook.

>>41481308
Skeletons are allowed to post for bulking advice.

>>41481314
>/fapples/
>not /fatnanas/
Bananas are the best fruit hands down.
>>41481308
If you have weight to lose you're welcome.

>>41481399
Banana is top tier but they rot too quickly. So they're garbage.

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>>41481399
I like both, but i dunno man. Triple the calories for equal weight doesn't seem worth the potassium

>>41481438
just noticed this is volume, not weight.

other site says they are double the calories by weight, but probably depends on the type of apple.

Up in the air really.

>>41481438
>mashed vs quartered
Yea nah your graph is whack. Bananas are 90cals per 100g, apples are 53. I'll give you double the cals. Still, bananas are so much more versatile than apples imo

>>tfw gonna make it under 5000kcal this week
I had 4000kcal so far 1000left for weekend.

Gonn be 85kg next monday (86 atm)

>>41481223
Not motivate, but help me not feel dead everyday, i also don't eat any fruit so vitamins would help.

>>41481257
I wanted to try taking zinc for a while now for bigger loads. I guess i will buy a multivitamin and zinc

>>41477409

counting calories is necessary at every weight level

is it ok to eat french fries if i can't fill my daily calories?

>>41481844
Why not buy some potatos and make your own? 10x better tasting imo. Or make a potato bake if you're really struggling to hit cals

got shitfaced last night for the first time in months, amazing how much better you recover from it when you're in better shape. Another coffee and I'll be fine, I used to have screaming two day hangovers that pretty much crippled me

>>41481844
I mean, as long as you hit your deficit it should be fine. But there are much better foods to do it with that aren't covered in oil.

>>41481844
You don't have to fill your daily calories.

>>41480118
Good luck but I still think you're better off just trying to cut to 800-1000 calorie deficit as opposed to straight to eating 600

>>41475918
>24% bodyfat
objectively perfect breeding material

>>41475971
>he doesn't understand that men and women have different levels of healthy fat
>he doesn't know that between 20 and 30% body fat is literally peak fertility levels
>he says "nigga af desi"
gas yourself retard

>>41481149
sup bro
we were talking yesterday about the jogging for a physical exam but i have another question if you perhaps know

before the physical exam i have a medical check up and i need to have a certain bmi to pass

anyways, my question is, if i eat at 700 kcal deficit and then eat maintenance 3 days before the medical check up, how much weight would i gain back you think?

>>41477872
why the fuck do you keep spamming this shit retard we've told you that you need to lose more fucking weight in previous threads

>>41482028
What's your current BMI and what do you need to pass? When is the physical exam vs the medical checkup?

If you eat at maintenance, you should do just that, maintain. I'd expect you'd gain maybe 1-2lbs in water weight as glycogen store replenish, hardly anything to be concerned about

>>41481199
>bulky
hate when women use this term, women can't get bulky without using some form of steroids because women have the natty test levels of prepubescent boys

>>41482050
current bmi is 27.1, need 27.9 to pass
the medical check up is in about 3 weeks so by then i'll probably already lost another 2 kg so i shouldn't worry too much i guess

ill eat at maintain 3 days before medical check up because they're doing an ecg and then ill hop on a deficit again until one week before the physical exam which should be 4 weeks after the medical check up

>>41476719
If you keep to your macros and eat your protein at what it tells you, you won't have any muscle loss. That's been the misconception about keto though - you're supposed to reach the protein macro while keeping everything else low

>>41476739
Aren't all diets some form of CICO?

>>41482057
you mean my original post's related picture isn't achievable natty? I am gutted. Roids aren't legal in my country.

>>41482125
>Aren't all diets some form of CICO?
any that work, normies make up stupid shit all the time like notecard diets which don't actually lose them any weight
and lots of people fuck up keto by eating pounds of bacon and sausage every day instead of eating under their tdee

>>41482148
it might be with good genetics but she's not bulky she's just super lean
probably 13% body fat instead of the 20 to 25% that women should be at regardless of muscle mass.

What should I eat for more energy?
Going at a relatively high deficit right now, with high protein and I feel like dying. Even just walking up the stairs makes me exhausted, which I never had before.

>>41482016
Only with good fat genetics.

>>41482265
sounds like your current deficit is unsustainable

>>41482265
oats
low gi keeps you full and active for hours
high carb
good protein for a carb
loads of fiber

>>41482094
Sounds like a plan man! I'll keep you in my thoughts! God speed, you'll be below 25 BMI before you know it!

>>41482272
>Only with good fat genetics.
not really
if women have any muscle mass at all then 25% bf will still let them look like they are thin

SW: 310

CW: 200

5'11" Male

Thanks /fit/

>>41482276
Thanks, guess I'll go back to oatmeal for breakfast instead of eggs.

>>41482301
proatmeal brother
protein powder and oatmeal for superior gains

>>41482326
fug
4 you >>41482315

>>41482299
>muscle mass
>women

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>>41482214
Thanks for the explanation. I am a former lean girl who got weight gain from a prescription drug known to increase appetite and sedative generally. Thing is I don't know how I got that lean in the first place, and I am trying to emulate the process again (which happened at the switch from teen to adulthood (17-19 years). Back then I was at 47.5 kg (I know it because I recorded it in my fitnesspal), which would estimate my bf% at roughly 17.4 which ain't bad since I wasn't starving myself either. I think I will still aim for 15% bf and see from there. thanks for the insight!

>>41482326
How much do you spend on protein powder in a month?
I'm a poorfag, not sure if I can afford it.

>>41482351
>implying women are literally skin and bones, incapable of movement

>>41482361
"pure protein" is like 15 dollars for 2lbs and it only has 50 more calories than gold standard.
2lbs lasts me about a month

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Pure-Protein-Rich-Chocolate-100-Whey-Protein-Powder-Nutritional-Supplement-28-oz/43333515
you can buy it at walmart

>>41482362

>muh 'women would be dead without muscles and ligaments'

fucking beta whiteknight gb2reddit

>>41482385
I laughed

>>41482353

1. No fucking way you're 17.4%
2. Everyone gets fat from sitting on their ass.
3. You're on birth control, just say it.

yesterday i reached week 4, day 2 of the c25k running program, and i was on the verge to puke in my last set, did i went too far?

>>41482434
>More likely on antidepressants.

>>41482434
I thought I explained fairly well, that I WAS 17.4 %bf from a rough estimate of being 47.5 kg at the height of 165 cm back before my weight gain which was recorded on myfitnesspal in january 2013. I think I was at my lowest then, and gradually gained those extra 15 kgs (I am 62.2 kgs now) during the course of 3 years.
I don't take birth control though, the prescription drug is Zyprexa for bipolar disorder. I am thinking of quitting it and just going fit but mad.

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My last meal 4.00pm 2 days ago

>first day of waterfast
>feel like shit, no energy, headache
>somehow managed to increase weight on bench at the gym

>second day of waterfast
>wake up
>spent the entire night dreaming about food
>actually got more than 6hours sleep
>wierd taste in mouth, must be a side effect of autophagy
>feel amazing
>head feels clear and I can actually think coherrently for the first time in forever
>0.5kg down already, probably water weight but w/e
>hunger comes occasionally, in waves but dies down after a while or by chugging down water or a cup of black coffee
Why didn't I learn about this meme earlier.

>>41482473
next time you'll feel less like puking
if you don't go back to week 3 for a week and try week 4 again

>>41482493
how do I fast without getting autisticly angry about everything?

>>41482518
do it slowly. start at 12 hour fast then increase slowly to desired time.

>>41482165
I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by how stupid some people could be. I mean, the calculator includes how much calories you chose to eat

>>41482518
like this anon said >>41482546
I have done intermittent fasting before, also its a good idea to get your body into Ketosis (less than 20g carb/day) a week before starting the fast.

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who else loves making joocy pitas?

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I working at a highschool and im making 20 - 25 k steps everydsy. Can i trust the cal. count?

>>41482636

gimme a pita breh

>>41482636
>joocy pitas
What's exactly is that? looks interesting

>>41482636
good shit, throw a lil tahiti on dat shit

>>41482636
All my hnnnnnnnnnnggg

>>41478267
you're fine. that anon is a fucking retard.

>>41482636
Seems kinda carby.

What's your weight and how much are you trying to loose? Me is 124kg and trying to loose about 50 kilos before 2018 summer. Eating 1100-1400kcal a day not going too hardcore on all those vitamins and fats and carbs and proteins. Eating more veggies and fruits, 3-4 litres of water every day and walking for 45-60 minutes a day.

>>41482731
SW 260lbs
CW 228lbs
GW 170lbs
t. 5'9" guy

>>41482748
pretty neat that I'm 1/3 of the way there already.
started in december

>>41482731
>lose*

>>41482731
imat 74,5 kg now, so i think ill be ok at 70 maybe?

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what have you guys been eating recently? for me it's
>fruits and maybe cheerios/oatmeal
>vegetarian chicken strips
>vegetable lasagna with only one serving of mozzerlla
>seven vegetable couscous
>vegetable and tofu stir fry
>sweet potatoes
>fortified almond milk and protein shakes
i take a b12 pill just in case but the cereal and milk usually covers everything else. i know it's not an optimal diet but it's the only one that doesn't give me GI problems, eating actual meat is out of the question.

>>41475791
So we both used to be in the 300 range, I started at 316lbs in January and in the second half of January is when I really began taking the diet seriously and since then I'm now at 229lbs. Making it has never been easier brah

>>41482674
just a pita with spinach, a tiny bit of cheese, chicken, calabrese salami, and nandos piri piri sauce
each half comes out to about 160 calories

>>41482731
SW: 110kg
CW: 85kg
GW: 75kg

>>41482730
I'm not doing keto until I can stick to a regular diet for a few months

>>41482844
that's really nice progress

>>41482839
sounds sick m8. i'll have to try it soon. are two halves filling/satisfying?

>>41482799
>bacon, mushroom, spinach omelette for breakfast
>something something for lunch
>stir fry with either chicken or steak for dinner

>>41482799
steamed vegetable mix everyday baby

>>41482859
quite filling if you pile the spinach on
i also take some peas, carrots and strawberries to go with two pitas

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>>41482730
You're kinda carby

>>41482731
whats your progress so far m8?

Start: 100 kg
Goal: 85~ kg
Current: 92 kg

Hoping to be healthy and (relatively) attractive by this fall when school starts

>>41482862
the best answer. i love steamed vegetables with a bit of teriyaki sauce. any other dish reccomendations? i've been getting a little bored

>>41482748
literally me except my GW is 165

>>41482731
SW: 331.5
CW: 239.0
GW: 170 but I'm very broad shouldered and fairly muscular, so I'm going to reassess once I hit 210

>>41482860
>want to make gains
>allergic to fucking eggs and meat

>>41482855
Thanks man. There's a photo version of it over at the progress thread. Feels good to look human again
>>41482946
Holy shit I don't know how I could live without meat or eggs. Actually chances are I couldn't considering I'm allergic to all legumes; almost all forms of major plant protein will kill me if I eat it. Feels bad man

>>41482898
Idk man, i love carrots when they are steamed or cooked with something else but that's about it, i actually despise raw veggies

>>41482892
I started at 130 kilos, now 124kg but I got a huge progress in my eating habits. No more hunger pains and not thinking about pizza anymore. I only drink water, I eat more vegetables and fruits, more protein and I have left out all pizza, candy and soda.

Im have an awful pearl body. Im 124kg but my stomach is not as big as some other 120kg men have. I have always had huge legs, even when I weight 75 kilos I would have to wear larger pants. Im trying to lose all my weight and go something between 70-80 kilos and then see what I look like, maybe trying to go under 70 kilos but will see

>>41482973
we are different sides of the same coin rainman. honestly i'm ok without meat and eggs because it makes me feel so miserable after eating it that the taste is just associated with puking and headaches. i do eat fish every couple of months when i go out for sushi though, but it's not something i could eat daily. i get my omega 3s from walnuts and ground flax seed usually.

>>41483000
Good to hear, man. Seems like you've gotten the hang of the whole dieting thing, and, more importantly, it seems like you've begun to understand yourself better. Just got to stick to it, and make any changes if necessary.

You're gonna make it, buddy.

>>41482731
Started : 101 kg
Goal : 70 kg
Current : 91 kg

last year i was 101 kg by these exact days, trained for 2 months during summer and dropped to 89, then my second year college came around and stopped working out till last week, realized that i gained weight and lost muscle and was about 92 kg.

>>41483017
Yup, the same feeling is me with peas. I've been rushed to the ER so many times I've lost count when I was younger because my father thought it "was all in my head." Not a bad guy, just grew up oldschool in a poor family where food was scarce and you ate everything.

I get my omega from flaxseed too in my shake. I have fish maybe once a fortnight. Tried making fish stirfry and that was a flop haha. Think I'll bread the fish next time.
>>41483000
Check'd and respect. You've got this man, don't try to rush it, it's a slow push down but it's worth the wait.
>>41483095
Keep it anon! Studying and stay fit is hard but it's worth it to not let yourself go in your younger years

new thread:

>>41483168

new thread:

>>41483168

>>41482637
No.

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>>41483181
but but the rice was fried