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Let's try something new, /fit/.

ITT we talk about anything involving martial arts and/or fighting related sports. This includes:
•MMA
•Boxing
•Ju Jitsu
•Tae Kwon Do
•etc.

Talk about professional fighting or discuss advice and strategies for amateur fighters.
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what is /sp u faggot
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>>41474175
Tae Kwon Do is fucking shit and I would advise against it.
T. Fag who spent 4 years doing Tae Kwon Do.
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>>41474175
Bet u won't say it to my face irl fagit fire me irl

Il fookin rek u kiddo


did I do it right?
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>>41474219
INDEED, I went a full year Tae Kwon Do and gained absouteley NOTHING. Maybe a bit more flexible legs but COMEON.

However BJJ is amazing. 4 months in and I feel like a new person.
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>>41474175
anyone else lose all their gains after a few years just training boxing/grappling? Worth it but now I look skinny/dyel in a long sleeve shirt
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>>41474219
>who spent 4 years doing Tae Kwon Do.

So when did it hit you you were wasting time?

>>41474282
>and gained absouteley NOTHING

Is it possible it was the class and instructor which was the problem?

What exactly were you 'training' for anyway? Poomsae? Sparring competitons? Doing fancy 540/720 degree kicks?
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>>41474303
No. You obviously didn't adjust your intake and macros accordingly with your uptick in activity.
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>>41474316
I'm talking 3+ years not lifting, just pushups and pullups
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>>41474315
>So when did it hit you you were wasting time?
Roughly after 4 years.
Its just pansy shit and retarded crap like doing cartwheels, they only care about point fighting. I took one class of kickboxing afterwards and I could immediately feel the difference in priorities.
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>>41474344
>Guys I lost muscle mass when I didnt do anything to maintain my muscle mass

Hectic revelation
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>>41474344
Okay. You didn't adjust your intake or macros /and/ you stopped lifting. Of course you're going to lose your gains after three years. I've been, and still am, active in many martial arts for years, and I've only gained from training.
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What's a good mixed routine for boxing and lifting? I've been doing boxing for about a year 4 days a week but haven't built up as much muscle as I wasn't since boxing isn't weight intensive. Would doing boxing every other day during week and lifting in between be solid? Weekends for rest?
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>>41474175
What do ppl here think about Krav Maga?
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krav maga is a meme
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How does it feel that I could heem literally every single one of you in this thread
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>>41475125
Well I haven't done shit all in weeks so pretty indifferent I guess.
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how do i balance lifting and bjj? i want to train bjj 3x a week and still lift at least 4x a week, anyone with relevant experience?
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>>41475173
Cut back on volume compared with a traditional program unless you're still in the noob gains phase, periodize, don't go heavy on more than one upper body and lower body lift per day unless you plan on competing in PL, periodize. Did I say periodize?
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>>41474175
I'm thinking of starting a martial art for self-defence and confidence (Britfag so no weapon carry of any kind allowed), what should I choose? Atm I'm thinking Krav Maga and MMA for the contact sparring experience.
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>>41475302
"MMA" isn't a martial art. It's a combination of them. Krav Maga is a good street combat form to start with, but it doesn't translate well to MMA.
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>>41475302
Do boxing or kickboxing. As above said, MMA isn't a thing. Krav maga is rarely taught seriously and is more liable to kill someone, don't do it.
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>>41475355
He's correct. MMA is a sport. Krav Maga, if you find a reputable gym teaching it, does not follow sportsmanship rules, and even some of its very intermediate to advanced training can seriously harm if not kill someone, though these are typically defensive reactionary manuevers that happen as a result of chokes and tackles to which many of the responses are head twisting, face stomping, and in the case of attackers with knives and guns, although it is often frowned upon for use in reality, you are taught to nullify the attacker with their weapon.
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Will finally get to put this beauty to use next month. wish me luck lads.
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>>41475437
Promoting to brown in BJJ? Congrats. Lots of hard work.
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>>41475459
Was promoted earlier this year, been a journey, 7 years training total.
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>>41475474
Nice. How many competitions have you participated in?
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>>41474219
This. I have a black belt in TKD. I got it when I was 17. I quit a year later when I started college and took up BJJ. That was 13 years ago. Since then, I've got my black belt in BJJ, blue in Judo, trained Muay Thai and MMA consistently. I've had 11 amateur K1 fights and 14 amateur MMA fights, and I've taken part in around 30 BJJ competitions (never won anything major, but won a few 2nds and 3rds at smaller regional competitions).
I do use TKD kicks now and again, and I feel like it gives me a little edge in MMA since most guys don't know how to check TKD kicks, but it wasn't worth 6 years of training, and it's never helped me finish a fight or even do any major damage - it just makes guys have to think a little bit more and that can give you a slight edge (Connor throws a few hook and spinning kicks for the same effect). I've got no reason to diss it. My Dad teaches TKD and my little bro is a former two-time national TKD champion. It's just not worth the effort when you could be putting the time into something much more effective.
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>>41475487
4 gi, 2 no-gi
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>>41475437
>when brown is your last chance to win big (a continental comp)
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>>41475510
Nice. Good work, bro. BJJ is worth every second spent training in it.
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>>41475528
Yeah, I got hooked on it when I started. You train too?
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>choked out
>split decision
beta mcgregor
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>>41475397
When I said MMA isn't a thing I meant as a particular discipline. I've never heard of someone training MMA except by learning and mixing other concrete martial arts. But fair enough.
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>>41475547
Yep. Wish I could say I was a brown belt ;)
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>>41475528
>BJJ is worth every second spent training in it
It actually isn't. Sure, you meet a lot of people traveling around and competing, make lifelong friends, have people take you in when you're abroad, but it also tears your body apart - basically everyone competitor I know, who stuck to the sport, had a whole bunch of injuries. I'm not sure if there's a part of my body I haven't injured
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>>41475564
It's cool, bro. There are literally gyms that teach "MMA". Like, here's some punches and kicks from Muay Thai, here are the BJJ techniques you need, and off you go!
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>>41475568
Lol. I mean, I guess? My shoulder is fucked up from omoplata right now, but I should be back rolling by next week.
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>>41474219
MY tkd supplements my muay thai very well. I'm a lot more agile kicker than most in my class
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>>41475568
I've only had minor injuries training. Easy to recover if you don't push yourself beyond your limits. Take enough time off if you're injured.

I've had worse when competing, but then again I only do it about once a year so it's fine.
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>>41475575
You're good to go tomorrow morning/evening

>>41475613
>Take enough time off if you're injured
True. But no one does this
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>>41475570
I'm just personally wary of gyms that claim to do that, too many commercialized nonsensical ones that take advantage of people. But hey, if one is legit, sounds good!

Unrelated, how does one become a boxing instructor? Is there like a certification or something required through a test?
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>>41475630
I'm not good to go tomorrow. My shoulder was popping on rotation. That has ceased, but it's still tight. Remember this guy?

>>>41475613
>>Take enough time off if you're injured
>True. But no one does this

That's you ;) I'm taking your advise.
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>>41475632
I'm not aware of any specific certification for boxing instruction. This is typically earned by reputation and experience.
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>>41474175
Friendly reminder that Jew Jitsu is a manlet meme trap that will kill your gains.

inb4imwrong

Enjoy being 5'10
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>>41475090
A meme. Whenever someone lists it as an effective martial art on this site, I immediately know they're larping.
Do people somehow imagine that someone trained in a legit martial art doesn't know how to fight dirty if their health is in jeopardy? You think we don't know that eye gouging, fish-hooking, head-stomping, and so on are part of the playbook if need be? You think a BJJ fighter doesn't know how to break someone's neck?
If you train at a proper Gracie aligned school, i.e. not a Barra gym where all the focus is on sports BJJ, you don't learn disarming techniques? Go watch the oldschool Gracie videos... All these techniques come from Judo (or, rather, old school JJ), where the premise was disarming your opponent of his katana.
>inb4 *real KM* is legit
Yeah, just like *real Aikido* and *real Wing Chun*. I bet someone out there knows *real Hokuto Shinken* too...
>inb4 it's just too dangerous to spar with or even show irl anon. That's why no rl vids have ever been uploaded to the internet of KM being used effectively
Yeah, I guess that's why every *real life* KM video takes you to a "real-life KM demonstration" video...
Think about it. You can find legit vids of real street fights where guys use boxing, BJJ, MT/KBing, wrestling, fuck, even Karate. But you can't find a single one showing effective use of KM.
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>>41475689
try again sweetie, 6'1 here
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What are good exercices to improve you speed?
I used to do a lot of fighting sports and my strength came from the fact that I was faster than most of the poeple who trained with me and was a good dodger.

I sparred with a friend a while ago and noticed I wasn't quick as I used to be. I have no idea what made me quick when I was younger but I want to train so I can be fast again.

Any advices?
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>>41475708
When I practiced tkd, alot of your speed came from repetition and cardio. Obviously if you havent practiced in awhile, then your speed and endurance will be shit. You just need to practice for a month or so and muscle memory should kick back in for your body
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>>41475703
You are an idiot. I've trained for years in Muay Thai, JKD, BJJ, and have three years of Krav Maga. Krav Maga isn't its own art, you fedora fucktard. It takes things from other arts. It does not have its own moves or style. It's a combat MMA of sorts being combined with some disarming movements, and different fight strategy that involves things that are counter to other arts like BJJ. In Krav you never want to go to the ground, no matter how great on the ground you are. Why? Because if you take me to the ground and are dominating me? My friend is going to stomp your face while you dick around with me on the ground trying for a submission.

You have no clue what you're talking about. Back to the mirror for another fedora try-on.
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>>41475664
>I'm not good to go tomorrow
Then study (jiu jitsu)
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>>41475753
Lol. I have several tabs open looking over things I'm weak on. ;)
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>>41475740
Im israeli and i trained krav maga in 5 different (good) places and imho krav maga is bullshit. If you want to defend yourself go box my man.. /thread
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>>41475769
You're israeli and fucking stupid. I just said I did Muay Thai. I did it for 5 years, very actively, training and fighting.
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>>41474219

Same with Tang Soo Do, did it for 9 years before I called it a day. Learnt more in and fitter in 6 weeks of boxing. Traditional martial arts are a meme
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>>41474315
Our trainer was some really good competitor who had won our countires championship or whatever its called. We pretty much learned some basic stances and learned how to guard against strikes. We also did a lot of kicks in the air to strech the legs and get a bit better balance. But yea complete shit youre WAY better of getting good at yoga or any other real martial art.
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>>41475885
>>yoga
>>real martial art

This but unironically.
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>first MMA fight
>this happens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSIoHp97kSg

I'll just stick to wrestling.
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>>41474203
I don't think we are actually allowed on there and /asp/ is long gone to us
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>>41475768
Watching matches?
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>>41475740
>trained for years in JKD
Not satisfied with training one martial meme, you doubled-down and went for two? You're shitposting, right? You have to be?...
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>>41475960
Plus those boards are more for talking about the professional/entertainment side of martial arts, /fit/ is more appropriate for people to discuss it in the context of practicing it themselves for their own fitness.
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>>41475090
It gets mugged off all the time and almost rightly so. They take disarms from other martial arts like Aikido, add acouple of nut kicks and then market on how commando it all really is. They say they are "more martial, less art" but the same problem that applies to all "compliant" martial arts applies to Krav. Its all context heavy and situational: >attacker does "x" so you block, do this, then that, kick his nuts he WILL double over and you then do this, then that and run away.

To cut a long story a bit shoter anons, the rwally good martial arts are ironically the ones that get called "mere sports" now. These are the full contact resisiting ones like
Boxing
Kick boxong
Muaythai
Kyokushin karate
Wrestling
Catch wrestling
Sambo
Judo
BJJ
All "incomplete" and "sport heavy" sure, but they refine what they do through competitiok and make it work under pressure of resistence and someone wanting to do the same to you.
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>>41475949
MMA is fucking brutal, it's basically "in da streetz " fighting inside a cage where trained martial artists are allowed to use the biggest dick moves from any art they practice, i'd never compete in it, it's worlds apart from competing in a competition for a specific art.
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>>41475437
16 years at it anon? Or longer?
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>>41475689
6'2 here, aww did they make you tap anon?
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>>41476063
>16 years to brown belt
That would mean you either go to one of the gyms that holds back promotions on purpose so their students get to compete against less skilled opponents or you roll like once every two weeks.
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>>41475740
>Krav Maga isn't its own art, you fedora fucktard. It takes things from other arts. It does not have its own moves or style. It's a combat MMA

Not that guy anon, but come on thats ALL martial arts you are describing. Nothing new under the sun. Did you know that BJJ is actually closer to Judo than classic Ju-Jitsu? The Gracies were being taught Judo by a japanese Ne-waza (ground technuiqes) specialist but they Brazilians didn't have a proper word for Judo yet but they did know the word "jujitsu" so they called it that. Just like substituting "gi" for "kimono"
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>>41476063
7 years
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>>41476131
Noice
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>>41476017
>>41475740
waiting for your reply...
Here's mine in the meantime.
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>>41475302
>>41475324
>>41475355
MMA USED to be a combination of "things." Then they formalized a rule set and turned it into a sport.
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>>41476505
This is bretty gud.
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I like Chinese martial arts and I'd kinda like to give boxing a try
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>>41476505
Why does Wing Chun get so much shit? Imo it hybridizes very well
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>>41476505
This is pretty damn complete.

There's something I'm missing in the Sanda hate yourself joke.
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>>41475610
>tfw you have better flexibility and skill with kicks than everyone else you know by far
>but you've never done TKD ever
>be me
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>>41476505
>not being homophobic leads to Russians and Sambo
Small design flaw in an otherwise solid flow chart
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>>41475949
why wasnt he wearing a cup?
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>torn labrum
>wrestling career over before it even began
>can't even run for a week

Protect your shoulders and knees guys
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>>41476505
>BJJ
>low injury rate
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>>41474344
Why would you stop strength training?
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Does anyone train in kyokushin? I remeber when I was 14 and I got in a tourney, got weighed in and was 208 pounds. There was no one in my age group near my weight so they made me fight adult middleweight. I got destroyed in my second round by an iranian black belt. Been going to tourneys ever since.
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>>41476505
>Boxing
>Skipping leg day
Excuse me?
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>>41474175
what Muay Thai the God Tier sport isnt allowed here?
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>>41477477
There needs to be a sanda joke about getting punched while getting tackled.
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Anything to say about muay Thai I'm very tempted to take classes but don't think I can afford it
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>>41475120
>>41475090
Genuine Krav Maga is great - it's just boxing, wrestling and a few random things thrown in.

But for every genuine, down to earth, IKMF/KMG/SAKMF accredited school, there's 10+ bullshit artists.

If they're not accredited with any of these schools, or the instructor isn't willing to show you his qualification, or if they use belts, then they're not genuine.

There's a couple of other quasi-genuine regulators, there's KMA, but they haven't improved the systems taught since they started, as their founder stopped giving a fuck/stopped training.
There's IKMA, they are Israel based and work with the IDF, but they don't give a fuck about civvie/LE shit, so it's not worth learning unless you're in the IDF and want to become an instructor on how to hit bags with a buttstock.

If anyone tells you any mysticism/pressure point bullshit, it's not real and they're bullshit artists.
If anything they try to teach you, doesn't make sense, or is like a choreographed dance performance, they're bullshit artists.

If you're taught anything other than how to punch, how to kick, passive/sp/active stance, basic footwork, basic groundwork/disengagement - then it's likely to be a McDoJo trying to butter you up.
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>>41475302
muay thai is the most effective and versatile and not to mention applicable to real world street fighting
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>>41477355
I did a bit of wing chun and it did help to redirect the punch energy and counter punching. Did my first 5 years in bouncing without a punch connecting.

Wouldn't only train in WC though. You'd never be at movie "Ip Man" level
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>>41475090
>>41475703

Jon Jones can gouge peoples eyes out better than anybody else and he's never done Krav Maga
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I need a wrestling coach in dubai.
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>>41479662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8q6vTijil0
>crawl atop me, and meet your doom
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Out of curiosity, what do people here think of Shotokan? It's pretty prone to McDojos, from what I've seen. But I've been training it for a long time, full contact, and I enjoy it. But it seems to get a reputation of being the 'loser' karate because of how prevalent the shitty schools are, leading to people spazzing around as if they were arcade characters.
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>>41475125
Explain. Justify your reasons. You had better at least be a purple belt BJJ.
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Does anyone supplement BJJ with another MMA? I was thinking about getting into striking or something similar
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>>41477945
>204lbs
>14

Fatty? Im jelly though, where i live in the UK Kyokushin may as well be a mythical beast. Something that only exists in muh japanese animes.
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>>41475324
>"MMA" isn't a martial art. It's a combination of them.
Combination of martial arts is martial art
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>>41480564
>I stapled a chicken to a penguin.
>It is now one bird.
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>>41480675
>it was okay when people did it back then but we have literally finished making martial arts now

You know how stuff like Judo even came about right?
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>>41476505
>If you are poor, train Boxing and Judo
h-heh, what a coincidence
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>>41480702
MMA is sport, not a singular style.
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>>41480723
Is Judo a sport too?
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>>41480742
GOD DON'T people will say "actually it is" and we will never get out of that line of shitposting
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>>41480742
An Olympic sport.

But more importantly, it's a sport involving a standardised fighting style.
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>>41480751
Is Karate a martial art then?
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>>41480763
Of course, but as it is practiced today, it is much more of a competition sport than a martial art/fighting system as it was originally intended.
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>>41478653
All real gyms are cheap(ish). If you can't afford to start at a certain gym, it most likely is McDojo.

All the greatest fighters come from piss poor conditions.
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>>41480771
>Of course
But it has a standardized fighting style that will be a part of the Summer Olympics of 2020, so it shouldn't be a martial art.
>as it was originally intended
Kano intended Judo as martial art too, but since Judo isn't one despite the intention, then neither is Karate.

Which one of your false claims are you going to retract?
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>>41480723
To be fair.... I know what this anon is saying. The truth is, within the sport of MMA tgere is only the expectation for you to win within a specific rule set. No one tells you that you HAVE to make Muay Thai your striking component or that you HAVE to make BJJ your ground component. The expectation is for you to turn up and win fights whilst following the rules.

That said, there ARE common themes within MMA gyms when training fighters. We do see, consistently in gyms, a lot of:
Boxing
Muay thai
Wrestling
BJJ
And we do see these being then bought under specific training for "MMA" so yes, your gym might do Gi and No Gi BJJ, but that it FOR BJJ, when you take the MMA class it's in there but it's FOR MMA.
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>>41480787
>grab a player
>"play" Judo
>players on the matt

I will never be ok with this. I want muh sushi flavour experince. Call them Judoka.
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>>41480787
You don't seem to understand the distinction, do you?

A martial art would be categorised as a fighting style that actual focuses on fighting - hence "martial".
A modernist term would be "fighting system".

A fighting sport, is when one of these martial arts or fighting styles has been specialised towards sport.

A regulated sport is a what these become when they are incorporated into a league or competitive championship.

MMA is a sport, in which multiple martial arts compete.
It's in the name.

It is not hard to differentiate.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/VOATurkish/status/864631567972540417/video/1
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>>41481014
>A fighting sport, is when one of these martial arts or fighting styles has been specialised towards sport.
What generally happens in those sports, anon? Describe it with a (one, 1) verb.
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>>41481119
Competing.
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>>41474175
>talk to kid at my gym about bjj and mma and muay thai
>ive been training for 10 years at boxing, muay thai and bjj...little bit of mma

>i mention to kid that slot has opened for his weight class in an upcoming event
>kid says those are amature fights and hes not aloud to fight in them, claims he is to well trained
>ask kid if he has had any fights, hasnt had any amature fights or pro fights, claims to have just gone straight pro

why do people lie about martial arts? at first i thought this kid was legit, but it became pretty obvious he was lying after.

Luckily im pretty humble n quiet, just kinda w/e shrugged this kid off
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What do you guys think about savate? I think it's great.
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>>41481293
That's pretty vague, anon. Businesses compete too and that's not what's going on there, is it?

Try again.
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>>41481402
Learn Kickboxing instead.
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>>41481416
Why?
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>>41481413
But that's the defining difference between a fighting sport and a fighting style.
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>>41481427
Because you're much more likely to end up at a McDojo are with a meme style like Savate.

Also, because only kicking isn't the best idea, and if you were to learn striking to go along with the Savate, you'd learn boxing - might as well cut out the middle man and learn Kickboxing.
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>>41481431
>But that's the defining difference between a fighting sport and a fighting style.
So a "fighting style" is a complete useless thing considering the lack of real world application?
What's the point of defending it then when the inmeasurably superior "sport" decides to associate with that shit?
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>>41480675
No, it's more like:
>I genetically engineered chicken and penguin into one bird.
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>>41481508
Because Sports are great if you want to be competitive.
Pure fighting styles train a lot of things that are not relative to sports - positioning against multiple attackers, disengagement, escalation, reducing risk against armed attackers, weapons training, etc.

There's no rule saying you can't train both.

>>41481627
That'd be more akin to a hybrid martial art, not a sport that incorporates multiple martial arts.
MMA is not a standalone martial art.
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>>41481694
>positioning against multiple attackers, disengagement, escalation, reducing risk against armed attackers, weapons training, etc.

This is the standard strip mall krotty/JKD nonsense answer that I get from all of the TMA cucks whose senseis went into hiding/depression after UFC 1 shattered their egos (why this didn't happen during the Vale Tudo era, I will never know). The things you mentioned are things that an unarmed combative art, with the purpose of disabling an opponent with your bare hands, is frankly inefficient at teaching you. Travel back in time and join fucking West Point if you want to train in weapons training or "escalation", which sounds like a cop's version of a buzzword. Or better yet, learn a lesson from watching how cops handle these frightening issues like multiple attackers, which is to just call in for backup because they at least have the common sense to not pretend to LARP.

MMA is a martial art. It is young, but it is a style of fighting that incorporates multiple styles of fighting. It is a "pure fighting style", regardless of your needlessly picky definition of what a fight is and what a style is. Just for the sake of curiosity, what martial art do you believe teaches you these skills with such proficiency that you would be able to reliably defend yourself in such a situation involving fighting off 5 separate manifestations of Batman armed with shotguns?
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>>41474219
Bullshit, you just went to a shit school
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leg hurts like shit when I kick something but is fine otherwise, what do

check'd some lowkicks with the muscle on the right side of the right shin and it swole up for like 2 weeks. Now it's fine again since a month and I have full mobility, can run, etc. It hurts a little sometimes when I extend my foot.

But whenever I hit the pad or bag with it it hurts like shit. should I massage it?
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>>41476505
>>41479309
Does anybody have personal experience from McDojos? I don't think we have those in my country, but we have certain MA sports that are pretty much just choreography.

>inb4 http://mcdojo-faq.tripod.com/
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>>41480519
Where do you live? I'm kyokshin brown belt and trained in the UK, lots of dojos. Mainly south east but still some dotted round country
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>>41480429
The Gracie brothers should do an in depth analysis of his technique.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nafxhxTt8mw
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>>41483365
South
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>>41475173
>>41475223

I'm also interested in how people fit martial arts training around lifting.

Does anyone else have an opinion on this?

Is it best to lift on the same day as training then keeping the rest days in between?
Or should I alternate and lift mon wed fri and train tue thur sat?
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>>41479309
I watched a guy from one of the mcdojos come in the other night. The head of where I train is former israeli military and pretty nice but doesn't take kindly to people coming in and fucking around.

He sent one of the well trained women in and she cleaned the guys clock. I don't get why you walk around being a shithead in a place where everyone is trying to better themselves and think you wont get your ass handed to you on the mat.

Its cool to see other people doing other forms of training besides muh lifting bullshit though. Good luck fitizens
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>>41480407
Daniel, pls...
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>>41481902
Let me explain this shit for you.

>Positioning against multiple attackers
Real simple shot, that has no place in competition, so it is not taught in boxing, bjj, muay thai, etc.
All it means is learning how to move when multiple people are attacking you, to prevent getting mobbed - it's not some mystical bullshit to allow you batman 5 people, it's just avoiding getting swarmed immediately, to allow you to GTFO without getting raped.
>Disengagement
Has no place in competition, disengagement is disengaging from the fight and de-arsing the area; it's all about learning how to use angles to get a minutia advantage in running away. It saves way more lives than teaching some 150lb DYEL or a 120lb woman how to just punch - they're nor gonna win a fight, but they can survive/avoid getting raped by getting away.
>Escalation
Important for self defense, particularly from a legal perspective - not taught in competitive martial arts.
>Reducing risk against armed attackers.
Shit can save your life, and allow you to survive long enough to run away - not taught in competitive martial arts.

Etc, etc.

There's a big difference in these, it's about survival rather than competition.
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>>41484900
>Former Israeli Military
Be careful, a lot of people use that as a tag line - if you're from Israel you're going to be former Israeli military; and what recruits are taught is entirely different from what you would be taught.

If you can, ask him whether he's IKMA/IKMF/KMG/SAKMF and ask for proof of his qualification - any genuine instructor knows how prolific mcDojos are and will.not be offended.
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>>41485525
Yeah that wouldn't fly where I am. The jews would be on his ass so fast for claiming to be one of them and he wasn't. You wouldn't get the clearance to open a gym with those kinds of credentials if you were lying about it as there are too many permits and other gov't documents.

He's legit and had his paperwork plus I'd imagine claiming to be one of them would probably get you a nice phone call or visit from IDF seeing as thats probably a crime to say you're former military or not. Anyway, I don't know how guys fight at 250 or 260 under 6 ft but kudos to them
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>>41485698
Mate, be careful, there was that Tony Robinson looking motherfucker who claimed to have invented Krav Maga and he got like 50 TV spots over a decade.

And I wasn't questioning him being in the IDF, every Israeli has been.
And the IDF doesn't give a shit, again that Tony Robinson motherfucker claimed to be in Sayerat Matkel and to of fought off like 1,000 Syrians and it was years before anyone at Discovery/History/Various news channels that thought to investigate that obvious bullshit.

It took years for the IDF to comment because they don't care about scam artists in the rest of the world.

Ask to see his paperwork, ask what federation you're associated with.
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Hey bros to put my two cents in , I strongly believe that BJJ is meme , its only for people who dont like being slamed or cant do judo due to injuries.
Ive been training in martial arts since i was 12 i started with Wado ryu , then muay thai after that daido juku kudo (its kinda like karate mma) , after that ive picked up Judo . I think that realy there isnt any need to go such in depth in ground fighting as they do in bjj and neglecting everythin else , i believe that if you learn judo in good judo you will learn more than enough ground work to deal with oponents , btw im thinkin next year to start participating in bjj tournaments too besides the judo ones any tips ?
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>>41485870
appreciated he's legit so im good. i like the training but im not sure how people are doing that 5 days a week and doing powerlifting splits. they must eat like horses or be geared up. I have a newfound respect for fighters that for sure.
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>>41486463
What federation is he with, what's his grade?
I'm not being a cunt, I'm just genuinely concerned.
These people tell people they're training them to survive, but a lot of the time they're scam artists and will get people killed.

Case in point, there was a guy in my city claiming to teach Krav Maga as it is taught to the military - turns out he had 7 lessons from my instructor total, all of them basic class (different classes are held for different grade student, upgraded, Practitioner, Graduate, Expert (though our only Expert ranked person is the head instructor, so that class isn't held for obvious reasons)) - he was teaching people to place the web of their thumb and forefinger between a hammer and slide as a totally legit way of doing a pistol disarm.
AFAIK he's still teaching people that bullshit.
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>>41485917
>btw im thinkin next year to start participating in bjj tournaments too besides the judo ones any tips ?
Well since BJJ is a meme you will do fine in those tournaments bro. Good luck ;)
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>>41486624
basicly the tips id like are more about penalties and shit , in judo randori in the most stuff you will also fall in your opponent with your body weight while performing the throw and i heard that that is penalized or somethin in the bjj competitions .
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>>41475740
id still fuck you up twink
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>>41487479
>t. Guy who wears tapout merch.

What he's saying is valid, you could be Gracie himself, but if some 120lb drug fuck scoop kicks you in the side of the head when you're grappling his drunk friend, you're down - you could fucking die.
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>>41487608
oh i didnt read the full post kek, yeah i agree
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>>41474175
Do some style with actual fighting luke mma and combine with a style that has introspection, like taiji.
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>>41475397
Krav maga is dumb, I've kicked the shit out of most people who claim to do it at my gym.
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>>41487692
>Krav maga is dumb, I've kicked the shit out of most people who claim to do it at my gym.
Because most people are either lying hipsters or are victims of McDojos.

It's basically just boxing/wrestling with a few altered Muay Thai kicks and some judo.

If you want to see what real Krav Maga is about - in a 1V1 sense, just go do some kickboxing - it's simple and it works.
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>>41476124
>those tits
hnnnng
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>>41476124
BJJ male vs. female sparring is fucking shit.

>be 180 cm / 90 kg (5'9'' / 200 lbs for you amerifats)
>have to spar with 60-70 kg gurls
>start on top or on the ground, doesn't matter, they can't do shit
>literally try to help them out by lowering my guard and doing nothing
>can't budge me from any mount
>they just struggle in vain until they tire
>don't even break a sweat
>in the end they don't have any chance in preventing what I'm going to do with them
>mfw I realize this must be how most rapes play out

Anybody have experiences doing BJJ etc. with women? We're still newbs with about 3 months experience tho, but don't women nevertheless suck even if they had same experience level and weight / height ratio as the male opponent? Could a real small but experienced female BJJ fighter beat a much larger but not as experienced male fighter or is it just a meme?

They have nice tits tho, I'd suckle and play with those babies, put my face in between, blow and do a bit of BRBRBRBBRBRB with my mouth.
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>>41485917
I'm afraid you will get murked at those competitions. But try them anyways.
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>>41488995
Holy fuck, sauce?
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>>41488995
Try sparring with girls who won medals on big IBJJF/UAEJJF tournaments. You won't stand a chance.
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>TFW want to do kickboxing and MMA but I also don't want brain damage
Wha do?
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