/fraud/

stop using steroids

Is cycling enough to keep leg muscle? I have huge thighs from taxas method half a year ago.

>>41448925
as in biking, btw

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>>41448921
make me fag

>>41448925
maintaining them? yes

>>41448907
Always knew that martin was a manlet

I don't get the roid rage meme, I've never raged on roids

>>41449458
Maybe you're a nice person.

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>>41449471
y-you too

>>41449275
>tfw shorter than a 6'8 manlet

>>41449458
I rage hard natty and harder on roids but I watch my temper so I don't lose my gains in a jail

>>41449458
Only ever had emotional sides except on tren.
And tren wasn't really roid rage, so much as roid everything is slightly more irritating and annoying.

I think a lot of the roid rage stuff is placebo.

>>41449606
It's not placebo, it's just less "rage" and more "moody girl"

>>41449458
I'm a pretty mellow dude, except for when it comes to competitive video games. roids didn't change that.

though I haven't experienced tren yet so, who knows

>>41449638
>"moody girl"
That's a good way of putting it. Sometimes hormones make you hormonal.

My sister's unit had a bunch of guys who roided. She used to make fun of them for being moody and bloated and having synchronized cycles.

I was eating this girl out and I just started eating her ass out of nowhere. I used to think that shit was nasty but for some reason in the moment I just went for it and it was great. she loved it too even though she told me she was super against anal.

sex is weird.

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>>41449768

>>41449768
I like you.
>>41449775
Go away. If you don't die suffocating in ass fat with a puffy asshole pressed to your tongue then you probably didn't deserve to live, you stupid asshole.

>>41449768
it really is the fines way to dine

>>41448907
Fuck, this dude would probably make even the Mountain look small

I've got Kallman Syndrome which in simple words means I cant produce testosterone (same symptoms as Llinefelter but different causes), doc's changed my prescription to doing Sustanon injection every month to applying 50mg of Testogel everyday because I still got very low testosterone. How long does it take for gel to take effect?

>>41449761

Test/Var made me a sobbing mess constantly, I'd be watching something and like, a tiny moment of emotion between two people would occur and I'd burst out into tears.

It only gets worse now that estro is here. Fug. I must I must increase my bust.

>>41448907
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN

>>41450056
I feel nothing on day 5 of 250 test 350 tren 90 winny

It's amazing.

Crashing my test WITH NO SURVIVORS so my doc takes me off clomid and gives me injections.

>>41450050
I actually have no idea. my doc said if i'd prefer'd gel i could get that too but he said its more expensive aswell as iffy with bio-availability.

a sustanon injection every month? wew lad i'd fucking kill myself. ask him for nebido.

>>41450083
pussy

>>41450073

Fuck man, that's shway. I'm glad you're not getting any feedback, although I've never done anything past basic cutting stacks and dicking with S4/GW.

>TRT edition
I've wanted to get my hormone levels checked since I have several symptoms of low test.
I've heard doctors are very reluctant to prescribe TRT and will instead prescribe antidepressants.

If my results showed I had lower than average test, how can I ensure I'm prescribed TRT?

>>41450110
I was wine drunk like all day yesterday too and I was amazing. No feels. My only overriding emotion was "I was to do cocaine off my exes tits".

Dht And hard androgens are a life saver.

>>41450142

Get it from an underground 'compounding' pharmacy, that's guaranteed to get you what you need my friend. Plus, no pesky doctors giving you chewy happiness.

>>41448907

I was a fuckwit and ran LGD-4033 and after my 8 week cycle, my nuts shrank quite a bit. I ran clomid @ 50/50/50/50 and nolva @ 20/20/20/20 and they have yet to return to size. Grabbed some DAA to see if that helps but nothing noticeable yet, getting blood work done in a week. I have been able to keep my gains made though so I can't imagine I'm totally shut down. Anyway, how fucked am I?

>someone pls respond

>>41450050
your doctor is a dumb ape who knows nothing about trt. let me guess, it's a woman?

gel is gonna be just as shit

>Serum testosterone concentrations increase from the first hour after an application, reaching steady state from day two.
>Administration of 5 g (50mg of testosterone) of Testogel produces an average testosterone concentration increase of approximately 2.5 ng/ml (8,7 nmol/l) in plasma
250 ng/dl for your stupid shit lmao

self-trt or get an actual endo/non-retarded-ape doctor my dude

>>41450158
i wish i would get a penny everytime someone gets meme'd by peptides.

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>>41450175
Peptides work. Lgd is a sarm though.

So I'm wondering if your brain hasn't rotted from memes?

>>41450158
I ran lgd-4033 for 10 weeks at 10mg/day before my first real cycle and my balls came back naturally within a couple of weeks, no pct.

you went fucking crazy with the nolva + clomid pct dude.

>>41450175
sarm

Day 5 of my anavar cycle, I feel a bit more of a pump while working out but that's it. Do I have to be sub 15% to get the dry veiny look from anavar?

>>41450175
>>41450190

If I ever run anything in the future I'll probably go 500mg Test-E/week. I feel so fucking stupid. It definitely worked but I didn't think I'd suffer such suppression.

>>41450190
ofcourse they work, people just think they are safer than roids or give as much results as a good ol test blast when they dont.

>>41450212
Okay but sarms like lgd and peptides aren't the same thing.

>>41450101
Not going to see him till early next year. I. It was either this or Nebido and he said he was gonna start me on this and do some blood tests to see if the levels increase. I didn't mind the injections

>>41450159
Nah, it's a guy. was only getting 6 nmol/l on sustanon. Thanks for the info, that sucks to hear that gel is shit

>>41450149

God, fuck. There's an Aldi down the road from me and they sell this bottle of fortified cooking cherry called Apera Cream or some shit. It's $5 for 11 standards. If I was ever going to smash a bottle of seroquel and go ninis forever that'd be the initial step.

>>41450190

Oi, can you clear up some shit for me Bimb? SARMs, bullshit or not? I mean, anecdotally they worked for me but it could just be a psychosomatic thing. They were nothing compared to real gear that's for sure but I feel like GW really does increase my endurance and recovery. Then again, I've been retarded before and it won't be the last time.

>>41450195

You would think but it seriously fucked with my test. My nuts shrank and I sort of hit the panic button. Again, I was a moron and didn't expect to have that side effect

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> have tons of vials
> im just cutting
> dont really need to be running all this gear
> Im cutting and gaining muscle
I will damn near eat some chips and salsa, and then it will turn into 5 lbs of muscle on my traps and delts. lol.

>>41450271
I just got about 3 lbs of Mexican food and I'm "cutting".

>>41450241
I'm an idiot don't ask me things.

>>41450238
sustanon is not suited for monthly injections. in theory sustanon is always a weird ass retarded rollercoaster.

im so happy my doc is not a fucking retard and prescribes me actual cypionate.

>>41450271
That guy is a headlet. My giant head looks shot on my dyel body but once I'm massive I'll be set.

>>41450195
What kinda gains did you get from lgd? Currently on day 8 10mgs a day and seem to be filling out a bit

>>41450313
my pumps were insane, I gained a lot of muscle mass, lost a good portion of it in the weeks after. was definitely much better than natty but nothing to go crazy about, basically babby's first attempt at enhanced lifting.

then I decided to pull the trigger and actually put a needle in my butt.

>>41450301
Yeah, that was what he was telling me, It gives you high test for a short period then your test levels crash. Well, I'm fucked no matter what. I'll wait and see a bit to see if the gel works well, if not then I'll complain again regarding low test and ask for Nebido

>>41450372
where you from? extremely retarded your doc knows that its retarded but still does it.

betting theres insurance shit involved or something else.

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> one of my nipples is small and erect
> the other is large and flat
Never had this happen before... hmmm...

Anyways, since upping my Adex the gyno has gone down significantly, I'm still unsure about running Ralox but I might keep some on hand. How long will it last?

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>>41448907
do i need to worry about any tren sides at all if I plan on running 200 mg Tren A with 500 mg of Test E ??. Ive done dbol ( 40 mg ) with test ( 500 mg ) before and i dont get estrogenic sides beside face acne.

>>41450400
From the UK, so it's very cheap on the NHS.

>>41450457
dude you can legally buy and at the current prices in UK you'd be cheaper off buying UGL.

>>41450313

I ran LGD for 8 weeks @ 5mg, had great gains and kept them. Aside from the ball shrinkage, I enjoyed it. Could seriously lift all day

>>41449458
Only time I ever got excessively angry on roids was due to gf bullshit

If you have someone pushing your buttons incessantly, roids amplify your response

Granted, the way I reacted was imo justified but still i was mad af

>>41450610
The only time I ever get angry is when women are shitty

>>41450196
You need to be <15% for sure to get a great look from var, you'll still get veins and an overall improved aesthetic while on it though.. It's just not maximized

>>41450429
post nipples

>>41450271
What are you running m8?

>>41450050
Your doc sounds like a fucking retard.

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Wow bimbo you really were right that denying girls sex makes them mad af.

>ex wanted to come and have sex today
>tell her to fuck off drunkenly last night
>she goes fucking haywire, calls me the whole morning
>literally fucking begging and shit explicit and everything
>continue my drunken hangover morning as usual and vomit in the sink (i know my kitchen tiles are ugly you shit christian)
>at 1 pm she is literally standing in front of my door knocking and screaming
>she lives 50km away and took 2 trains and a bus and walked another 10mins to my house
>screaming at first was just obscenities and insults
>slowly turned into "i'll do anything please"
>continues for about 20 minutes
>open the door and tell her maybe next week and shut the door again
>silence for a good 2 minutes then some more screaming and then she finally left

what the fuck, my ex is batshit crazy.

>>41450917
Yeah my ex is doing the same shit she's called twice today.

>>41450917
This didn't happen

also, anyone experience pinning with 22g?

ran out of 25g's and fucked up ordering too late. will be pinning vg's.

>>41450442
What kind of vagina dose is 200mg a week? How exactly does that divide by 7 days into a needle, smart guy?

>>41451119
200mg a DAY pussy

>>41451138
Fucking idiot then what's 200 divided by 24?

>>41450997
using grey ones, I think they are the smallest aside from slin pins.
Takes a while but worth it.

>>41451119
lol i see we got another steroid role player here. 200 mg a week of ace is good dose for first cycle with tren for sure. you would know that if you ever run it.

>>41451119
I'll take the bait
50 mg EOD you dumbass

>>41451211
yeah its the grey ones, hows the pain on injection compared to smaller needles?

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>>41450917
>not ragefucking her for the effort

>>41451626
That would be rewarding bad behavior. He should have told her to get food, and then told her to go away.

>>41451652
>23 years story of fucking his ex on and off
>gives advice

actually makes sense

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>mfw when a 2/10 cardio bunny miwlf asks me how long I've been working out for at the treadmills and does the weird old lady muscle touch thing.

I think she wanted to cook me dinner and make my bed for me.

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>look through last year's late 2015 - early 2016 pictures where I did a proper bulk and gained a fuckton muscle and fat, to later add cardio to my workouts along with a strict diet to gain leanness
>look -way- bigger than I do now while being almost as lean
>go off cycle during summer and get some really bad health issues late 2016 preventing me to work out
>start again this year
>fat
>dyel
>think I'm able to manage bulk+cut but fail miserably
>do the suicide meme cut with dnp+starve+cardio
>compare pics now with early 2016 and notice how much less muscle mass I have now while about the same leanness
>pure regret
I'm not even sure I want to share my suicide cut day-by-day progress pictures anymore because your laughs will just add to that regret, but I guess a promise is a promise. Will quit in a few days.

>>41451814
if you cant take criticism i wouldn't suggest posting it here.

posting a progress pic on social media is ez tier, reddit is still easy, cbt threads are still kinda easy and in general /fit/ and fraud are harsh as fuck.

theres a huge gap in what a normal person finds big and what fit finds big and not even talking about what fraud thinks big is.

tl dr dont even bother reading the shit anonymous people fling at you.

>>41451591
then we are talking about different grey pins. They are 27g I think

>>41451509
thats 175mg a week, you dumbass

>>41451855
https://www.daxtrio.nl/bd-microlance-22g-07x50mm-zwart-injectienaalden.html

>>41451814
haters gonna hate friendo

do it anyway, i'm thinking of trying the same cut and wanna see how it went

>>41451814
laughable.
All you people who can't do shit without roids will always look like shit.
Fuck, no idea how to diet or eat, and still you roid. And there you are you fat dyel looser kek

>>41451814
muh disability

>>41451863
https://www.amazon.de/STERICAN-Kan-Luer-Lok-40x20mm-Gr-20-grau/dp/B001LXUH3A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494882787&sr=8-1&keywords=kan%C3%BCle+grau

way smaller, would not really touch yours. Only if I really had to. So much scar tissue and all that.

>>41451899
oh shit alter, DEUTSCHFADEN

27g is aber wirklich klein, kann man eigentlich nur machen fuer schultern/vg oder arsch wenn man shredded ist.

ich gebrauche normal 25g, ich hab n par andere leute gesehen die 23/22g gebrauchen hab aber kein bock auf scar tissue wie du schon gesagt hast. mein rechter VG is schon ganz verfickt deswegen.

>>41451841
criticism is fine but I expects laughs
>>41451864
thanks. the cut itself worked I guess, depending on the rebound. but what I did prior to it left me with the skinny ass I am now, and I obviously did it better last year when I first focused on the bulk and later on the cut.
>>41451882
trial and error, I'll just repeat what I did last year
>>41451883
muh chronic urticaria my docs treated with atarax which made me sleep 12 hours a day and made me tired as fuck when I didn't sleep. muh fucked up scalp tingles/contractions docs didn't know what to do with, instead focusing on the urticaria. later they prescribed me a non-sleepy antihistamine called desloratadine instead and I somewhat got used to the scalp thing. both symptoms remain today.

>>41452003
> muh chronic urticaria
I have this too. Dermatagraphic urticaria.

I use fexofenidine 180mg and famotidine 20mg x6+ times a day, and doxepin 20mg at night. My skin always feels like its on fire.

Hows the desloratadine working for you? Ive never heard about it.

> docs treated with atarax which made me sleep 12 hours a day
Same thing happened to me with Doxepin, I first tried Doxepin back in december and gained 20lbs and slept a ton. I'm using it again now just because I really want to have skin that doesn't feel like stab wounds.

>>41452003
oh, and also, if you're using DNP, stop immediately, its known to worsen urticaria /eczema. Same with accutane. I bought hundreds of dollars worth of accutane right before I realized I couldn't use it.

Whatever, just stick to running Test and EQ, that's what my cycle is and always will be. Stuff like tren is just out of the question.

>>41451978
Oberschenkel und glutes gehen gut, bin nicht wirklich shredded, aber anscheinend shredded genug. Auf den quads waren heute während dem training schon relativ viele adern, vom teardrop unten bis ganz oben.

Mit pharma testo gehts schon besser, ulab sachen sind manchmal relativ zäh. Man kann schon 2-3 minuten für einen ml brauchen ab und zu, da muss die freundin helfen.
Mal sehen ob ich dabei bleibe wenn ich jetzt deca dazu nehme, mit 2 ml wirds sicher lästig.

Aber je kleiner desto weniger narbengewebe, und das is auch was wert.

Die meisten leute sind einfach behindert und wundern sich dann, wenn nach 1 jahr nichts mehr reingeht weil alles zugenarbt ist.

>>41452106
The desloratadine is great. Atarax only worked for me because without any antihistamines I would wake up during the night itching myself and Atarax would cause me to sleep like a baby, it wouldn't remove the itches that much if all. With desloratadine I have about zero itching ever. Pretty recently however I started getting static shocks whenever I touch metal objects (I look retarded when I ground myself by slapping the door handle before opening any door), so it's pretty evident the root problem is dry skin. Maybe low e2? dno. Would recommend deslo though.
>>41452133
DNP I'll quit in ~3 days :^) haven't had any worse itching on it. Tren I don't know, I ran test + tren the cycle before I got these 2 issues and they may or may not be related to the issue. However, I was off cycle for 6 months and I still had these 2 symptoms so I ruled out the possibility of them being related to the frauds, and got on frauds again this jan (test + tren again)

how the fuck do you guys handle the massive increase in libido? I was just shrugging at the gym and the bar was hitting my dick and I had to stop myself from getting a boner. All I have to do is think of my gf and I get a full on.

>tfw she's still studying abroad
>stuck at Uni for another 3 weeks till she comes back

>>41452243
aromasin :-)

>>41452204
dude you sound like a retard running dnp and tren with a pre existing condition like that.

get more sleep

stop running 19 nors

stop using toxic shit like dnp

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mfw I'm not going to the gym today so I'm going twice tomorrow, which means I'll be doing Chest + Arms in the morning, then Back + Chest at night.

Chest day twice a day cmon

>>41452371
honestly, just do it all at once if you have the time, and bring a lot of shakes

>>41452400
Chest + Arms + Back + Chest

I'm not on enough Tren for that lad

Tomorrow is the last day of my 50mg ed Anavar run and I start my 200mg ew tren for the rest of the summer. Wish my body lucky guys.

24 days into a test-E 500mg/week cycle, no orals. I've read that a lot of people don't feel/notice anything until week 5-6. This is so tantalizing. I've noticed some increased vascularity and bacne. On the other hand, my libido is through the roof and I want to fuck women I'd never even consider fucking before.

When did /fraud/ notice gains on their first cycle?

>>41452739
I am cutting on 550 test and I felt it almost immediately. My strength is not diminishing, it increases at times, although sometimes it may decrease.

Losing fat like crazy.

Libido is definitely increased but I've always had a high libido. Too bad im a virgin loser.

>>41452814
>cutting on 550 test

What a waste of gear

>>41452937
skinny boy detected

>>41452937
you know that you can grow while cutting, right?

>>41453098
Thats called recomping m8

>>41452400
I tried that once, did not work out at all.
I think I am too strong for something like that.
Does not work that well when you are squatting sets of 10 with 4+ plates.

>>41453114
if so then cutting and not recomping on steroids is pretty damn hard.
Aside maybe from PSMF on low trt doses.

>>41453098
>grow while cutting
lol

>>41453125
>cutting and not recomping on steroids is pretty damn hard
Maybe when you are small.

>>41453144
>>41453157
Laughable.
Bimbo cut on just a bit of test a while ago and he got stronger.
You just don't know how to eat and/or train.

>>41453176
but did he get bigger?

no

>>41453176
Clayton is also guzzling loads of cum for money so your point is invalid

>>41450917
>(i know my kitchen tiles are ugly you shit christian)

Fix them.

>>41453250
you paying for them?

>>41448907
Why do people loose gains after cycle?
Because of test dropping? How can one avoid that? What is the point of roiding if its temporary.

>>41453301
No. It's your obligation to do what I say because you're wrong, fucking Nazi. Remember WW2? Your fault. Now change your tiles.

>>41453333
There is no point

>>41453333
>cycling
dude lmao

>>41453333
Real men stay on forever

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>>41453334
>calling a russian a nazi

woo boy thats where you went wrong kiddo

>>41453363
I dont understand

>>41453378
So blast and cruise? Then what?

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Does Jeremy beundia actually have diabetes, or did he just make that story up cuz he got caught injecting insulin?

>>41453466
Probably got the beetus from using slin for BBing

>>41453454
Lurk moar

>>41453465
what do you mean "then what"

that's it, blast and cruise

Anyone want to tell me what caps eBay store name is?

>>41453408
sprechen der deutsche you fucking communist, literally worse than Nazis.

R8 my planned cycle.just
> 50mg var e3d week 1-20
> 25mg dbol ed week 1-10
> 25mg SUPERdrol MWF week 8-20
> 30mg tbol SSuMTW week 3-13
> asin 25mg ew
Will have caber on hand.
> pct nolva 80/80/40 (in a hurry)

>>41453618
What the fuck are you trying to achieve?

>>41453618
this is the dumbest shit I've ever seen

>taking 8 hours half life orals three times a week

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>>41453618
Brutal

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>>41453618
11/10

I'm 18 and on track for D2 or maybe D1 sports. I'm an extremely hard trainer and very physically matured (beard, chest, deep voice, tall) and was thinking about running 200 mg test a week with a AI and HCG as well as Nolva for PCT. Reddit cucks freaked out on me when I asked. Should it or would it be something worth risking to potentially go pro or big 10 for college?

>>41453831
have you ever had a blood test done?

because as an 18-year-old athlete there's a 99.9% chance your natural test is already higher than what 200mg/week would take you to

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>>41453831
>200mg test a week
>reddit cucks freaked out on me

no shit retard

>>41453883
I proposed a 500 mg week cycle on Reddit and they said it was unsafe.

>>41453867
I know my test levels are incredibly high, I just heard test can increase performance and strength even for younger guys. My voice is deeper than most 40 year old men and can grow a decent beard in 3 days.

>>41453905
having a hard time believing that, link me that thread.

>>41453920
testosterone isn't magic. what you inject is what you already have in your bloodstream.

you will inject 200mg, shut down your natural production and the 200mg will get you to where you were already, or below. it's a dumb plan.

>>41453933
he's 18, of course they told him it was unsafe, it's reddit

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>>41448907

I don't understand, why would someone NOT use testosterone and related drugs if they want to gain big muscles easily? There are literally no drawbacks.

>>41453905
has the same risks of any cylce, if you are happy with your height and think its worth the risk then go for it. otherwise you might regret it

>>41453831
go for it who the fuck cares medical science can fix whatever you fuck up on that low a dose

>>41453933
For an 18 year old. It was over a month and a half ago. I still have the 3 bottles of test.

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>>41453958
>no drawbacks
Except becoming a human sex machine.

>>41448921
Go away prophet muscle, there's no celebs you can "challenge" in order to garner more views you leech.

>>41453955
Reddit also yells at people for using 250mg of test to cruise saying its too much lmao

Do people know you're frauds? I'm considering it but wondering if normies will know just by looking at me

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>>41453958
Because winners don't use drugs.

>>41454377
Just tell them you changed your diet, program or started doing wii fit

Look at all the fucking "natural" bodybuilders, youtubers, fitness gurus

They're all on shit lad, just fucking lie. Ever see John Cena? Swears he's natty

>>41453955
>reddit are a bunch of pussies
Surprise.

>>41454377
No. Have you ever been able to accurately distinguish between a non-fraud and a real fraud?

normies think one of two ways:
1. If you use steroids you blow up to Ronnie "Chickenwing" Coleman size
2. That whey counts as a steroid.

>>41454420
No one has ever seen john cena you fucking mong

>>41454420
Or Dwayne Johnson.

>Yeah bro he's full natural, just trains and eats like a beast
Yeah, 100% natural despite being 6'4", 260 lbs and sub-10% bf.

It's like normies just don't want to accept that no matter how much they eat or train, they will never be that big unless they take steroids.

>>41453831
Going pro or getting a full ride is the only time I would suggest an 18 year old get on steroids. Ignore the other guy, 200mg will put you past natty but you won't blow up. Don't bother coming off until you have to worry about drug testing and make sure you get your blood work done regularly.

>>41454376
it is too much.

>>41454377
do you think you'll look better than Connor Murphy? Jeff Seid? because people unironically believe they're natty

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>tfw store had no ripe bananas so have to eat unripe ones that taste like actual shit
>tfw store had no banana and strawberry chobani, the only one I like

this is worse than nogf

>>41454480
I'm still concerned with potential endocrine or HPTA shut down even with that low of a dose. I am pretty tough and am currently 6'2" 180 and have been eating like a carnivore for the past month and haven't moved much in weight. My goal is to put on some weight and strength to hit that low to mid 90 mph mark. I will be going all in do or die if I do this. What are the potential risks with such a low dose even with full PCT and HCG?

>>41454480
200mg gets me to 950ng/dl.

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>>41454536
Wow this tastes like complete shit. Anyway to make unripe bananas not taste like ass? How do I make them ripen quicker?

>>41454545
>What are the potential risks with such a low dose even with full PCT and HCG?

Basically nil, you *might* have estrogen/RBC/cholesterol issues crop up over time. You'll recover just fine.

>>41454655
You have bad genetics, 250mg got me to 1400ng/dl and I'm not blessed.

>>41454717
you have a very poor understanding of response rates. please refrain from giving advice.

>>41454709
put them in a basket with other fruits.

>>41454790
>implying I have other fruits

I eat bananas and dates. Everything else tastes terrible except maybe mangos but they're not in season.

>>41454797
put em in a bag and put them somewhere very hot.

Week8 on test c 500mg/w.. I thought id gain more from this... Any point on pct vs. B&C? Everyone I know are blasting and cruising..

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>moderate kek

>>41454812
ty, will throw them on my balcony.

>>41454818
All of you would look small next to a 6'7" 300 lb man

>>41454818
Are they gonna kiss or what.

>>41454933
I hope not.

>>41454709
Put them in a sealed plastic bag that will ripen them.

>>41454377
>n-no bro j-just buying smaller shirts now h-heh

>>41455012
I didn't have a big enough plastic bag, so I wrapped them in saran wrap.

>>41449458
I honestly don't think its a thing. If your a cunt natty you will just be an irritable cunt on tren.

Anything wrong with an extended cruise?

I was gonna blast in the next month but think it might be in my best interests to wait until september or so, but that would be about 6 months of cruising by that point.

Roids just give me the confidence to be the asshole I am inside. They don't make me angry but the confidence to express myself.

>>41455122
No
Keep it 250 or under
Been cruising on 100 for 1 year

>>41451841
Shop head onto winklars body. Still get
>roiding for this

>>41453187
an experienced lifter is not going to get stronger without get bigger. He may look depleted but he still will be growing muscle if he is getting stronger. my 2 cents anyway

>>41453618
>no drol 80mg ed pre w/o
stay small

>>41455213
It's almost like, it's a meme or something

>>41455406
At this point idek if i'm being ironic anymore

>>41455456
That's what I always wondered about millennials. Everything they do is multiple layers of irony. Do they even have genuine feelings about anything? Would they even know what that feels like?

In my day it was called sarcasm and we turned it off and on.

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>>41455526
>tfw moral absolutism

>>41455540
To me it's just hiding behind a wall of "oh that's dumb? Well I didn't really mean it, I was just being ironic"

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>>41455526
>In my day
Shoo shoo old people the interwebs is gen y

but seriously the only things I genuinely enjoy are lifting (and the associated lifestyle) and reading everything else just feel like filling in time. If I'm asked for my opinion on something controversial I sometimes just be edgy for the sake of it rather than try and contribute. I know I in no way represent the majority of my gen but it's not like I find any of them particularly inspiring anyway. We just suck in different ways Sort of lost my line of thought so to clarify.
>past; has morals and new the value of a days work
>future; has kickarse technology but no values
>present; no values, no kickarse tech, no morals

t.blog

>>41455584
Practically. People want to do things but they're fearful of social rejection or ridicule, so they do them anyway but portray it as ironic which is impossible to ridicule because it is ridicule.

Which is just exhausting.

>>41455626
scratch that. I have just discover /po/ life has meaning once more

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>10 vials of tren expected to be delivered thurs/friday
>but caber is still in Turkey and may take up to 3 weeks

Should I just start the Tren and hope for the best? Biggest concern is gyno, no dick is fine for the moment considering nogf.

>>41455891
what are you going to run the test and tren at? ever had bloods done at that particular test dose?

>>41455891
>>41455991
oh and also, tren a or e?

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>>41455991
Blast is

250mg Test e
500mg Tren a
7.5mg Sdrol tapering to 22.5mg for 5 weeks
100mg NPP

Might increase the test to 300 depending how I feel with the tren.

>ever had bloods done at that particular test dose?
Cruise dose? Yes.

Hoping to get big enough and shredded enough to make exgf jealous when summer comes around.

>>41450917
>50 KM
>2 trains and a bus

Fucking Britfags

>>41456038
if your e2 is anywhere outside normal range on that cruise dose, I would tell you to wait for the caber

or you can just yolo and stop if something goes wrong since you're using tren a

>>41453831
>on track for D2 or maybe D1

If you even think you have a shot at Division 1 sports, don't do fucking roids. You think they don't test you stupid shit? With your IQ, you probably won't even get into college. Just don't do it. I've seen plenty of prime athletes go down in flames because they thought that gear would help them out

t. Michigan Wrestling team member

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>>41456094
Naww, I hardly aromatise. On 600mg Test-e I didn't need any AI but I eventually got paranoid and started taking 12.5mg E3D.

Plus I can order some caber domestic which would arrive in a day or two if I really needed it. It's just jewish level expensive.

>>41454441
Left the thread right after posting that to see fwb, I was hoping to come back to this :)

>>41454524
Maybe for an average man on TRT to get in range, but for someone who actually wants to get big and maintain their size when not blasting, 250mg isn't too much to cruise on at all... especially with UGL gear

>>41456204
Glad I could help

>>41456204
"ugl gear is underdosed" is my favorite completely unfounded meme

the point of cruising is to let your lipids recover and bloods in general to come back within range before your next blast, not "to get big"

you don't need an obscene amount of testosterone in your body to keep your mass, even if you're fucking gigantic. just 1000ng/dl is more than enough to spare your muscle.

>>41456226
Bimbsie gib tips on how to make ex jealous.

>>41456325
I don't really do shit. She's just as crazy as I am.

She puts in a lot of effort to fuck with my head so the smartest play for me is to opt of her game; I just don't play and ignore her.

If you decide you want to play the game three easy rules for basic hos: don't validate, don't talk about sex, when in doubt ignore.

Put downs are an easy go to but are lame and make you a negative person; it's easier to just be nonchalant and aloof.

Looking good and being big works to an extent, especially if you introduce other fine hos to make one jealous, but you either better be prime meat already or have a ho that gives a shit about size.

My best advice? Don't run tren to make your ex jealous lol

That seems vapid and more ho like than any ho move she could play.

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>>41456386
>That seems vapid and more ho like than any ho move she could play.

I'm okay with that.

>>41456436
You should probably stop your obnoxious role playing then.

If you're gonna claim better, be better ho.

>>41456464
I'm not better but I want her to think I'm better, that's my schtick.

>>41456470
It literally does not m a t t e r what she thinks.

That's the biggest hurdle. Her thoughts and actions and motivations are meaningless to you. Own that.

Stop searching for validation from a person that means nothing. She can matter again if she proves she's worth it and earns it.

Besides, I'm a fuckong retard and I see your ho play from a mile away. She'll see it from 5. Unless she's a bimbo like my ex, she's not going to be impressed and she'll consider you desperate as fuck.

Re-evaluate.

Do those fat binder pills actually work? They seem highly useful if you were doing a Keto diet, since its a high fat low carb diet.

Apparently the jury is out on whether or not they do.

>>41456499
>Stop searching for validation from a person that means nothing

It's meta. She means nothing, that's correct but I still want the validation because I value her validation above all other girls.

>she'll consider you desperate as fuck.
She's smart but not wise.

>>41456537
You're thinking in loops and I do the same thing.

You need to admit you're stuck on her and she has value when you recognize she doesn't need to.

I admit the same thing about my ho. Your best play, and this will always be your best play, is to ignore her.

Women, especially the adult children, when push when you pull. Make shit their idea orbits a waste of time.

I am exceptionally lazy on top of being incredibly stupid; it's a better use of my time to do whatever the fuck I want and just let her come to me. Makes her interest reliable and I didn't waste time. You should consider doing the same.

If she makes her own moves, move back. Otherwise who really gives a shit dude? Stop being a bitch and revolving your time and energy around a girl that doesn't even want to be with you.

My ex hates me but at least she actively fights for my attention and wants me on a daily basis.

Stop wasting your fucking time, pussy.

>>41456537
>>41456568

Yeah dude, ignore the bitch. If she doesn't want you, move on. The best revenge is living well.

>>41456656
The good news is most women today can't stand that and come back within 4-12 weeks.

>>41456679
This is true, unless she's one of those that jump right into a relationship.

In which case it's still possible to get her to cheat on her new bf once she misses you enough and/or sees a progress pic of your post-relationship blast on Instagram

>>41456693
This is what my ex did. 4 days after I left. Guess who is calling me daily two weeks later?

>>41456568
I do admit I'm stuck on her. I don't necessarily want to get back with her or sleep with her but I just want to be validated by her. It feels nice. I don't know another source of validation.

Whilst that indicates I have a flaw in my personality, the flaw still needs to be satiated.

>>41456656
> If she doesn't want you, move on
Obviously she doesn't want me, she left me. I just want to feel that she feels she made the wrong decision and still loves me.

>>41456714
Stop needing her validation. It's a huge weakness and is honestly the reason she left you. Partners add value, complement you; they don't complete you or your value. Very lame thinking. It's not behavior to sate or enable, it's behavior to correct if not eliminate.

If it's not her, you'll attach that perspective to someone else. In essence, stop being clingy.

The way you word yourself, and I'm not being mean just blunt, makes me think she did not make the wrong decision. She doesn't love you and this attention seeking behavior will result only in a further loss of validation and further impact your capacity to feel or maintain value.

Build yourself in ways that you value, that aren't centric towards her perspective of you. I can say this because these are the exact issues I struggle with.

>>41456754
>Stop needing her validation

no u. I like her validation.

>is honestly the reason she left you.
Ehhh that's incorrect. We both became unenthusiastic about the relationship. I'm just vindictive.

I get what you're saying though.

>>41455526
I'm likely the oldest guy ITT and I do it too. It's sort of a side effect of spending much time in certain places on the internet. I do agree that some people NEVER turn it off though even when they should once in a while, which kind of negates the point in the long run.

>>41454812
Bananas tasted better desu.

What would be the benefits and cons of an 18 year old running test e 500mg and/or a low dose of tren?

I haven't done roids before and I don't want to fuck myself up, just wanna do a small cruise dose

I'm at 1/2/3/4 5'10 78kg

Lifted for two years

>>41457863
>benefits
Muscles
Stronk
Good feels
Energy
Sex drive
Fat loss

>Cons
Gyno
Water weight
Leaky nips
Lethargy
Insomnia
Irritability
Sweating
Loss of libido
nodick
Soft cock
Stunted growth

A lot of it is down to how your body reacts which is unpredictable.

If this is your first cycle, tren probably isn't a great idea. Also 500mg of test isn't a cruise dose. A 'cruise' dose is 250mg, a true cruise dose is 125mg.

Since there are no DNP generals anymore i might as well ask here.

Did 8 days of 250mg crystal and want to bump it up to 500mg of crystal for another 15 days..

How will my bloodlevels change if i take 500mg today from now on?

>>41450917

Have no doubt. This is what we pay police for.

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>>41457918

>>41457954

I know this chart but i seem to be a bit retarded.
I took 250mg crystal for 8 days which would put me arround 658mg blood levels.

If i take 500mg today, i will end up on 1317mg and climb up from there?

I literally dont know how to do the math with the New total math on top of the chart.

>>41458028
500 + (658 *((0.5)^(24/36))) = 914mg

Remember that crystal DNP is not as potent as powder as well, so you'll have to adjust for that to find the true value.

>>41453098
>lean gains

L M A O
M
A
O

>>41458091

Realy nice, thanks for your help.
Yes i know, my levels will lower, thats enough info for me.

>>41457863
I'm 27 and I started at age 18 and I ended up fine but I was already 6'1 at that age

I had a dream that the doctor put be on 200mg ew of test for trt,

Fuck why is it not a reality :(

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>To their own shore
>Came the World War
>Gleaves and Ingham
>Leading the Bury west

>In their own track
>Came the Wolfpack
>Gleaves led the convoy
>Into the hornet's nest

>>41450917
shit that didnt happen for 10 m8

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Well /fraud/ is fairly dead. I'll post a story of the time I crashed my exgfs car because it's Crusader hour.

>Just finished work, stayed behind 4 hours to cover somebodies workload
>Get to gfs place
>Very tired
>It's our little tradition that when I come to her place at night, we go get me dinner
>Decide I want fastfood because I really cannot be fucked getting out of the car or cooking or waiting
>Drive to KFC
>Get food, drive out
>Following a car which is driving very sporadically, braking very randomly
>Keep a safe distance
>Come up to intersection which has a turn off
>See car in fronts brake lights turn off and him move forward
>Look to see for any oncoming traffic
>Car in front had stopped for no reason (no oncoming traffic at all)
>gf was apparently staring at me approaching the car and didn't say anything
>Then at the last moment she starts screaming
>I look up, car completely stationary
>Swerve right to avoid
>Catch his right bumper and our left front panel
>Ask gf if she's okay. She's hyperventilating but physically fine.
>Check myself, seem okay
>Get out of car, look at damage
>Other driver still hasn't gotten out
>Walk over to them
>He gets out
>pretty chill about it all
>Exchange details
>I'm internally fuming because I could've killed both of us. I should have paid more attention.
>Get back to gfs place (car is still drivable)
>She goes inside
>I go outside, start punching wall
>Break knuckle and damage wrist ligament
>Hands covered in blood
>gf comes out, ask what happened to my hands
>tell her I was try to clear some of the broken glass and panels
>She buys it kek
>tfw left wrist is now in constant pain and it affects lifts, especially OHP.

Ended up forking out $2000 for the damages. The other driver was a huge cunt about it later on (I assume he was high on weed when driving). Didn't respond to one of his texts within like 2 hours and he said "You better hurry up and respond to me otherwise I'm getting the police involved."

I started getting black scar tissue on my ass whenever I pin Test Prop. It's very mildly painful.

It's never happened before, I'm a seasoned fraud and I've been pining for years and I've never observed any black bruises after pining. You could argue that the substance is bad but I pinned 5 times of the same shit and I was fine, the latter injections however, began to create big black bruises.

All I wanna know is whether this is a serious issue since I can't find anything on the internet.

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Tfw we only have chem and Jerry and bimbo now

>>41458574
Lol fag

>>41458857
You could have nicked a vein and it's dried blood underneath the skin. That's my only guess.

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day 0: 86.4 kg
day 1: ??
day 2: 84 kg
day 3: 83.6 kg
day 4 83 kg
day 5: 81.9 kg
day 6: 82.4 kg
day 7: 83.2 kg
day 8: 82.3 kg
day 9: 81.5 kg
day 10: 80.1 kg
day 11: 79.9 kg
day 12: 79.7 kg
day 13: 79.7 kg
day today: 78.8 kg

I just had a large shit before weighing myself waking up today and I realized just weighing myself in the morning is still not a fair comparement. I need to shit before doing it.

I've been lifting for two years and still look shit (like a melted candle). How do I get my test levels checked? Just walk into the doctors office and say I think I'm low test?

>>41458980
Ask for a blood test checking testosterone

>>41458965
> starts using thin wojak
[doubt]

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>>41459091
is there a problem officer?

>>41458173
>>41453144
>>41453157
this explains why you all look like shit.

next to Every pro grows into their show.
You don't get stronger unless you build muscle, as long as you don't start doing some new movement, change technique etc.

Things are not that as easy as low cals= hold or even loose muscle,
you can loose muscle in a surplus and gain in a deficit.
Fucking noobs, getting me mad, REEEEEEEE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTDapcklnV8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5bFy_WHYLI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud7CnPJcK6U&t=3s

get some actual knowledge you fuckwits

God damn these headaches are killing me. How do you niggas cope with them?

>>41459177
I never get any headaches. Are you drinking enough?

>>41459177
lower your bp or they will really kill you
And if they are from high bp, are all you niggas really that fucking stupid?
You take roids and think everyone is as stupid as you are, high bp is normal and you jus live with it?
Price of getting big? Has to be to get to 180 at 15% and bench 300?

How do you cope with your horrible acne? I have to have shit skin to be big right?

Fuck it's 14:00 and I already had more than enough internet retardation today.
I'll eat my soup and go out to do some bp lowering cardio. And then do my chest/back deload that's still heavier than your workout all whilst feeling healthy as can be.

>>41459181
I don't think I'm drinking as much as I should be, maybe it's that.

>>41459201
Why are you so angry?

>>41459201
>THIS amount of projecting
hilarious

>>41456699
remember when you kept saying she was a lesbian other than with you lol

>>41459214
because people are stupid, and think it is a good idea to take possibly dangerous drugs.
And then ask stupid questions, because they were too stupid to do research and even lack commom knowledge why they could have a headache.

Why are you such a bitch and cry about nogf and your strange internet crush all the time?

>>41458700
what do you look like crusader

>>41459219
explain how that was projecting?
I even told him what the cause of his problem is?

I helped him, if he is not a complete retard, even me calling him stupid was help.
He should do some more research to not look like an idiot in the future?

>>41459201
My blood pressure is fine, I checked myself just now. I'd only assume it's from inactivity and not drinking enough. I work at home so unless I gotta work out I don't go outside. My assumption is based on the fact that whenever I start lifting the headache goes away for a while.

>>41459230
Because I have no other social outlet to express my feelings.

You just seem bitter.
>>41459250
Nice try stalker anon. The furthest I'm willing to say is I'm white and not fat.

>>41459301
not drinking enough could give you a headache, but only because it leads to high bp.
inactivity leads to high blood pressure.

But if it is fine and you don't have some genetic problem. Then just try, maybe a glass of water and 30 mins of walking does the trick, it will do in most cases.

>>41459325
I am the happiest person you could possibly imagine, as long as I am not confronted with stupidity and man acting like little girls on their period. At least not for more than 20 minutes.
Hence why I said, enough internet for today. I am off to fuck my gf, do cardio, and do my deload.
Bye for today, I wish all of you the best, except for you crusader, I hope you get dick cancer.

>>41459350
Wise words

>>41459350
Oh.

>>41459301
30ml/kg bw absolute MINIMUM. Try to get in lots more. Water or unsweetened tea only. Chances are you're drinking way too little.

Anyone else looking forward to mincemeat-kuns blog post about developing cataracts.

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>>41459552
From dnp or the meat? My sight is perfectly fine, thank you.

>>41459552
DNP cateracts was only reported in women. I really want to see his progress pics though.

>>41458543
>>41457912
>>41457912
>>41458543
I don't really give a shit if I stay 5'10 for the rest of my life,

Right now if I bulk my lifts go up 2.5kg a week, if I did a cruis dose would they go up by around 5kg a week?

How often would I have to stick a needle into myself?

Is there a high chance of my balls shrinking on test 125mg per week?

Will my natural test levels be fucked after?

Bit of a Normie when it comes to steroid knowledge

>sorry if I sound like a soccer mom

>>41460302
If you want to grow 2 inches in height in 1 season I would recommend getting a growth hormone kit and some testosterone. Then bulk on 4-6000 kcals for 16 weeks. + plenty of sleep

I gained 1 inch of height doing that natty when I was 18.

>>41460322
What kind of growth hormone kit?

Also if I can lean bulk at +500 cals and gain lean mass, how much more of a surplus can I run with 125mg test per week?

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>drink a cup of coffee
>sweats are doubled
do not like this one bit

>>41460302
These are normie level questions answered by the OP

>>41448925
>>41448934

Speaking of biking, what's good to help performance and endurance as well as building mass at the gym? (non competing here, no need to worry about being tested)

and whats bad for that? (obviously tren).

thinking of just taking whatever i got lying around besides tren and getting some itpp.

>>41460592
Apparently EQ

>>41460592
Deca/EQ

What does fraud think this guy is running?

https://www.instagram.com/davidnelligan/

>>41460752
fuck off idiot

>>41460752
Well his last pic is a little red in the chest but not that red. Older pics are more pale.

Maybe Test + NPP + GH + Primo or DHB

>>41456099
32 ACT and 4.3 GPA. Okay tho.

>>41460752
blasts 750 test, cruises on 300. Plus a lot of time

>>41460790
Do you think it's gonna fuck him in the long run?

>>41460780
Why are you triggered?

>>41460921
because the question is as stupid as it gets

>>41460931
>Man has a god tier physique
>Wonders what he's using to maintain and progress that physique

>Stupid as it gets

Fuckin meat head

>>41460943
it is, you will never look like another man does, not even on the same dosages.
Someone goes on high deca and test, looks dry, huge and 3d. Someone else will be bloated as fuck on that.

Someone goes on winny and his joints explode, other guys win 100m dash races, others winn bb shows.

Some guys do drol at 200 per day, get cancer, others blow up, others get gyno.

Some take 1g test get to 250 lean, others might stop at 220 lean.

You can not tell what someone is on from pics, and it will not help you in any way.

>>41460977
I don't want to be like him, I'm just a nosey cunt that wants to discuss him because its interesting how someone can get to that size.

>>41461008
ok, then, if someone is really big he most likely takes a lot of steroids, maybe, if he has great genetics he takes a medium dose.
From the pics I saw he could be on one steroid at 500mg, or on 5 combined things and 2g plus gh, slin and peps.

Take whatever option you like more, most likely the 2g thing because you can say "oh well he is only big because of the 1g of tren, 1g test, 12 iu gh, 60 iu slin, 120mcg igf1 des, 200mg t4, 200mcg ghrp 5*day, 50 drol/dbol, 50mg pre workout viagra, 1250mg metformin and 3g creatine"

I lost 20lbs on dnp and look fatter than when i started, is this gonna change when I am off longer? Been off 2 days

>>41461107
did the dnp make you eat like a slob and have you lose 20 lbs of water weight?

>>41461107
it is going to be get worse, pretty normal to loose huge amounts of muscle.
Really sucks man.

>>41461107
you're gonna piss out a lot, let me repeat, A LOT over the course of the next week or so. do you newfags even know how this stuff works?

>>41461125
"no"

>>41457863
i was a 0.75/1/2/2 plates stronger than you respectively before even thinking of taking steroids at 23 by which point i would barely consider myself ready
you're not ready, you're still a kid, but by all means shut yourself down before your test production is fully stabilised

I'm finishing up PCT and I'm gonna be so bored between cycles

Can I run a very low dose of arimidex to get my natural test super high and make those sweet natty gains?

>>41461315
kys please.

>>41461125
loose muscle, got do i hate loose muscles

>>41461385
fuck off. kill your self

>tfw hard to pin big doses because baby hands

>>41461315
the strength meme is the worst meme

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>>41461574
Just cuz ur a weak fag don't get salty

>>41461614
It really is

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1 month on doxycycline and it made my acne 2 times worse. Have been breaking out since the beginning of week 3.
Why can't my body stop being such a fucking faggot

>>41448907
Lab rat here, I'm running LGD at 15 MGs a day but I think it's fucking with my sleep. Anyone else develop insomnia after taking LGD?

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4 weks into my first test cycole

all worth it so frare

>>41461958
use Accutane already, fag. but acne temporarily getting worse before getting better is a super common side effect of anti acne medication. even Accutane does it.

>>41461965
I ran it at 10mg not 15 but nope, I was sleeping like a baby. I've also never heard of anyone ever having that side before. pretty much 100% sure it's from something else. change in diet? not actually lgd?

>>41461997
ayy

is this a reddit thread? please link

>>41462019
I think it's my pre-workout then, I'm going to stop using it and see if that helps, the volume I can do on LGD is insane. I am not expecting huge gains like a roid cycle, but I am hoping to get some good results.

>>41462080
... Yes it's very possible that the caffeine is making it hard for you to sleep.

how close to your bedtime do you take the pwo?

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>>41462080
You are so fucking retarded

> hurr durr is this compound fucking with my sleep
> oh by the way forgot to mention I take 200mg+ caffeine before my workout durrr

Is TRT basically the same stuff as say test E? Does it still cause gyno and all?

>>41462187
I take it around 12pm before my workout.

>>41462198

Well I was taking it before and was able to sleep so I thought maybe it was the SARM and not the pre-workout.

>>41462217
trt is using testosterone at a low enough dose that it should take you to the upper end of natural for those people who are naturally low test.

so, yes.

>>41462217
taking the bait.

TRT means testosterone replacement theory that means they literally inject you with extra testosterone. If your doctor is smart (believe me some arent) he will prescribe you either testosterone cypionate or nebido.

Cypionate he will inject either every week or in some cases depending again on if he knows his shit twice a week.

nebido will be injected every 2/3 months.

Gyno is a side effect of testosterone converting to estrogen, if your doctor knows his shit he will give you an appropiate amount of testosterone so you wont get gyno.

that is considered best cases. when you're on trt tho and get gyno i wouldnt be surprised if he just gives you a letro prescription to nuke it away.

>>41462267
therapy*

>>41462267
most docs will just lower the dose until your e2 is no longer out of range instead of just giving you an AI

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>>41462028
no

thats olive oil anaons (me)

>>41462296
hence appropiate dose.

my endo is a fucking bro

>first month after 150mg test cyp injections
>get bloodwork back
>asks how i feel
>say im feeling amazing couldn't be better, mention that my nipples are getting itchy though and ask him if thats normal
>at this point i knew nothing about trt/steroids
>well i dont see any reason to lower the dose if you're feeling good, i'll prescribe you something for that
>he asks if i prefer taking a pill every 2 days or every 4 days
>say i dont care whatever is cheaper
>end up with an arimidex prescription.

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0-4 raw ground beef
5-9 the soon-to-expire cottage cheese

on an unrelated note I noticed today I have lost little to no strength these weeks

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Anyone wanna tell me why I can't just go on this or Anavar for a couple months and be done with it? I just wanna look good to normies and am skinnyfat still after a year of liftin

>>41462684
Why don't you just do it if you want and find out for yourself?

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>>41462657
>meater eater

>>41462684
you will get nothing out of it unless you run liver toxic dosages

>>41462684
just do it bro it's a great idea

>>41462755
Because I dont wanna die, be left worse off, or waste money

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>>41462789

>>41462657
You had little strength to start with.
>>41462684
Eat 75-100mg
>>41462796
You seem confused as to what a 17aa oral steroid is.

>>41462878
delet this

>>41462878
uh well i missed his t-bol pic. I thought he was gonna do an anavar only cycle

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>>41462942

>>41462957
Anavar is still 17aa

>>41462975
I don't get it

is DNP's efficacy affected by body weight?

like how if a 120lb man and a 250lb man start drinking, the little guy would get drunk first.
coz I did a round of DNP a few months ago and it was fine, barely any sides
I'm now on day 6 or 10 and it's torture, even at the same dose as last time

>>41462994
duh yes

>>41462994
yes, if you are fat please take 5x the regular dose

>>41463041
heeeeheheh

was 200 last time
stuck at 160 so I'm utilising the extra help

>>41462019
Doc will prescribe me accutane when the doxy and tretinoin fails. Even when doxy succeeds I'm afraid I will break out again so accutane it is

time to get chapped lips and suicidal c'mon

>>41462957
>anavar
>liver toxic
?

>>41463113
Any oral steroid is going to be liver toxic, some are just more toxic than others.

>>41463163
This is false. Proviron is not a c17aa.

>>41462684

I wouldn't do a couple of months but the first cycle I technically did was an oral anavar only because some dude at the gym said hey this will make it easier for you to get a nice ass and abs and I said well okay.

So like, who fucking knows the dosage was right but I can assure you that it definitely did help a fucking lot but diet and training were both in check. Twelve weeks. Now I know better though.

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>>41462684

Stop being so lazy in the gym. It's very easy to be swimmer skinny little bitch otter mode natty.

The problem is you go to the gym for 30 minutes, do 1x5 deadlifts, never go accessory work, wonder why you look shitty.

And your nutrition is McDonald's because more calories more growth right.

Do negatives and go to failure. We have scientific studies that show that sets done to failure and putting the muscle under tension for longer results in most growth.

But no no wahh wahh boo hoo that's hard I don't wanna do that that's too hard!

Idiot.

@ thefuy asking about my tank tops, it's from eBay.

Search anime girl tank top on eBay.

>>41463378
>all of this projecting
lel