steroids general :DDDDD

first for cutting and wanting to die

this old fuck left pins on a fucking bench with a 5kg plate on each side.


i am MAD as fuck

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So I'm trying to dose Adex .5mg EOD but I pin E3D so they don't totally line up. Should I just change dose to Adex 1mg E3D so it lines up with pin days?

Also it damn near felt like I hit bone when I was pinning biceps earlier

>>41411444
Those digits :O

>>41411458

>pinning biceps

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>>41411464
That makes me think, can you pin forearms? Of course you can. I should get some extra gear just for that.

>>41411444
no hams, bad glutes.
Everything from nehind is shit.

Quads looking pretty good from the front, bad from the side. no calves.

>>41411644
I bet you comment about pointy elbows on /s/

>>41411489
I mean you could... but why? There's so many veins and nerves in them, and the muscles are so damn small and twitchy.

>>41411693
to get forearm gains.

However I'd be better off injecting traps more frequently to get a large neck

>>41411693
>so damn small
speak for yourself :)

What edition of fraud is this?

lrn 2 OP, OP.

>>41411763
OP here.

Local injection site growth edition

>>41411657
Just look at last years olympia. his upper body from the front was ok, back and legs complete shit.

He looks good on instagram, that's it.

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>>41411772
If I inject directly into my heart, will it give feel gains? I just want to feel Anzu. And my delayed tren order.

>>41411784
Murder yourself.

>>41411795
Can't go to heaven via suicide.

>>41411778
You're right, I looked at a few more pics, he's kinda lacking when not actively posing for the 'gram. Would still sell my soul for those delts tho

Took my second dose of caber last night and I just got a totally random semi at work. Can it really be working that quickly?

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>>41411902
Are you sure it's the caber? Was your dick dead before?

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>>41411809
>>41411778
>>41411657
>>41411644
Sadik and Calum von Moger have the best physiques of all time right now.

>>41411444
he really fucked up his physique

Was not meant to compete in this category

Sadik real alpha, imagine that fucker after the cut

>>41411968
>of all time right now

>>41411968
Nice opinion.
Brad castleberry definitely outdoes both of them in aesthetics and strength.
And you forgot about zyzz and chestbrah, they're legends amongst men

>>41411952

Half dead. I get erections but without viagra they tend to be pretty weak and I barely ever get morning wood. GP ran blood tests as a result and found my test is bang average but I have elevated prolactin. It's going to be months before the endocrinologist will see me and my GP won't treat it because she says she doesn't know enough about it.

So far have managed to hide it from gf with viagra and the fact that I'm really into fingering her and eating her pussy. I usually don't really care if I end up getting off or not, and prolactin would explain that.

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>>41412190

>months before the endocrinologist will see me

European "health care" style program detected.

Meanwhile, in the USA: "Next Monday okay with you ?"

>>41412205
That's cause you have to pay for it faggot. If he went private and paid for it here in the UK, he'd get an appointment pretty quick too.

>>41412205
>>41412222

tbf I did end up paying about 40 quid for the caber off AB but it's enough to last several months.

Just hid in the toilets at work to inspect my cock. It's definitely doing better. Could just be placebo effect but the effect is there.

>>41412190
Sounds like caber. Maybe some placebo too

>>41412222
You said that like you shouldn't have to pay for health care.

>>41411102
High test with tren seems to cause more problems, yeah I would drop the test.

>>41411444
wtf he used to be godlike

This is a weird question, but what does it usually take for a guy to get an erection? I've been used to getting them just thinking about sex with my gf. Like if she texts me talking about wanting it I'd usually at least get a semi before the last few months. Do I just have unrealistic expectations of my dick?

>>41412289
You have a problem

>>41412289
That's totally person to person.

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>>41411444
Why are you all so obsessed with getting "Huge" man....
Shouldn't the primary point of fitness be to stay in shape and stay healthy? You obsess with your bodies like super skinny models who just want to keep getting skinnier without realising how ugly they get
just stop now it's not too late to turn around, pls

>>41412307
>you think we're in it for the health still
Steroids promote good health, when used responsibly and in moderation. It's a perfectly good arguement for people like us who use them abusively.

>tfw dnp face gains

>>41412307
We're not. I don't want to be yuge. I just want to be better looking than everyone else.

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can an abscess be 0.5 inches in diameter? or is that just leakage? 0.8cc in glute

>>41411444
Is that really sadik? I liked him but damn the fact that they've denied him the olympia physique win so hard so many times has taken it's toll it seems. Dudes getting into the retarded huge category now. I think he did classic physique last year but as far as I remember he got wrecked there too. The worst thing in bodybuilding are the dudes that always try so hard but in the end always get denied the titles they want even tho they probably take themselves to extremes that might even kill them. I'm sad for this cunt he's probably getting eaten by the fact that buendia beat him 2 times and even won the 3rd title in a row and then he changes categories and gets bashed again. Dude will die off his inferiority complex

>>41412307
Health actually was the reason I started. I was dangerously low test to a point it took a toll on some stuff in my body, and my original reason to introduce deca was tendon health.

Needless to say, I've since yolo'd anything under the sun to get big, I'm just saying, I had a mission originally lol

>>41412418
What needle size did you use?

>>41412307
I don't care about health, I care about compensating about my manlet height and baby dick.

>>41412449
25g 1.5

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>>41412307
this is ugly for you?

lmao incel detected

>>41412466
>roiding for this

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>>41412472
haha okay

how much should anavar cost?

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>gf memes herself into trying new sex stuff because something seems to lack
>ok
>hey let's try swinging, I read about a local club, 20 mile drive, people of all ages not just fat 40+ couples
>SWINGING?
>instantly foam at the mouth at the thought of having to watch while the BBC violates her
>haha no, I don't care for that, I just want to see you fuck other girls, that's super hot to me for some reason
>play it cool and agree
>mfw internally
IS THIS REAL LIFE

to keep this humblebrag blogpost steroid related, deca and eq at same dose or one of them higher and why? never blasted them together but I'm going to next time.

>>41412590
You're a fag

>>41412617
you're a roach obsessed (inb4 Laz, idgaf) religious fanatic, I think we're even. now answer my question please.

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day 3 of psmf

had one cupcake before bed last night but at least it fit in my macros

down to 258 boyeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>41412462
Probably just subq leak

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>>41412633
That's like calling the Pontic Greeks roaches mate. They'd gut you. I have no problems in being a religious fanatic, infinitely better than being a religious mediocre. If you're going to do something, be fanatical about it.

I can't answer your question. I've never touched EQ. I've never heard anything about negative interactions between them.

>keep finding new songs from Sabaton everyday.
Today is a good day.

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People on here swear by blast and cruise when even rich piana says not to do that. You're just making excuses to not be shooting up.
Smdh.

>>41412765
To not not*

>>41412765
What's wrong with shooting up?

>>41412765
Rich is a cuck

>>41412754
fair enough, to both. not like I really care lol

>no negative interactions
yeah I know, but some people swear by lower deca on their dead grandmas and I have no idea why. I want to know if there's an actual scientific or anecdotal reason, basically.

>>41412802
Deca just stays in your system for ages, so I guess some people want to keep the dose low so it leaves faster? Seems kind of superfluous

>>41412765
I have an honest question. When does Rich Piana cut off excess fat? Does he do a specific cycle in order to cut? or does he cut after the cycle is over? Or does he just use DNP?

That's what I don't understand about how to do this. I'm doing 1 cycle right now and putting on mass but also some body fat, when do I cut that body fat off? The traditional answer here is to "DONT' BE A PLEB AS NERD, BLAST AND CRUISE IS THE ONLY WAY" so that you can be cruising and also cut without losing all the muscle you just put on. But for people who don't do that, what is their strategy?

>>41412825
hm, that would not make a difference to me though. oh well, gonna read up a bit more. worst that can happen is I'll need to adjust on short notice.

>>41412846
Clen, T3, keto and maybe DNP.

Tren, mast and var are good cutting/prep compounds

>>41412590
>haha anon you fucked her real good
>now you fucked someone else and i can too
>heres tyrone

>>41412877
So there is no way to do the cut without adding more substances?

>>41412846
>PIANA
>CYCLE

>>41412846
>>41412877
I use dnp cause ive only done 2 test cycles so far, but from i hear is tren on a deficit will shred you pretty good.

>>41412881
let's hope not. I mean, she's a bit weird to begin with and even watched me fuck a fleshlight and other assorted cock sleeves before, because for some reason seeing my dick in something else before it went into her got her hot and bothered. maybe, just maybe, she's not planning any backhanded bbc retaliation after all. fingers crossed kek

>>41412884
Sure there is. Just standard calorie deficient, keto, psmf. But you're going to go catabolic.

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Do gorillas just have very high natural testosterone levels? How do they get ripped?

>>41412895
he cycles

>>41412934
big, not ripped.

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>>41412934
be born to alpha female

damn, I trained 6 times per week the last weeks and ramped weights up a lot. Last workouts were 195kg squat for 8, 220 dl for 8, 160 kg bench for sets of 6.
Was a bit sore all the time, but not time for a deload yet, now I took a extra off, and everything is sore as fuck and even a bit of pain here. Time to deload. Do some MDMA today and then 2 days off, and 5 deload workouts,
then back on to my way to a 4 plate for 5 bench and 5 plates for 8 squats.

A few weeks after my deload will be the time. The numbers above were all not max effort, just good, heavy working sets. But no failure.

Thanks for reading my blog

>>41412934
More muscle fibers, different leverage/length (muscle insertions) around the fulcrum (shoulders, elbow, knees), more or less myostatin im blanking on which one.

>>41412504
Pls tell me ur natty otherwise kys what a waste of roids

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Anyone else find it mildly annoying when you z-track perjectly and can't find the injection site at all to hold an alcohol pad on afterwards?

>>41412418
99% chance it's just leakage. Abscesses are relatively rare unless you've got really shitty sterile technique or gear.

>>41413205
I have fairly huge alc swabs for that exact reason. Probably a waste of money over time but I can just put it in the general area and be sure to hit the pinning spot too lol

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>>41413201
>i have to be 260 pounds of shredded muscle on a 5'11" frame after my first cycle

>>41412997
No he doesn't

>>41413442
Are you implying you're 5'11? You look like 5'6 and 160lbs

>>41411968
t. only watches bodybuilding via youtube

>>41413442
You look like shit lad, sauce is not for you

>>41412162
He outdoes them in fake weights and having a huge gut.

>>41412162
Zyzz and chestbrah were never anything more than spoiled party boys at their prime.

>>41412934
nice lordosis faggot

>>41412934
same reason niggers get naturally big

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>>41411444
if i want to add tren ace ( 200 mg ew ) to test dbol cycle should i lower test from 500 to 250 ? i've seen a lot of people saying that test higher than tren sure way for side effects. should i even worry at this dose ?

>>41411444
damn are they twins

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>>41411784

>>41412934
looks like kai greene, stomach and everything

>>41412205
Not really. Endocrinologist can be a bitch to get scheduled with in general

Cardio on tren sucks my dickhole, i get ankle pumps and shin pumps so running blows. Should i hop on that elliptical meme like all the stacies?

>>41412504
his right tho

>>41413685
You almost definitely won't get sides at 200mg pw, and if you use tren ace you can always just drop it if you get sides and be good within a few days.

Is MemeK-677 any good for cutting?

>>41413835
Stationary bike, rowing machine, stair master, or incline walking are all good alternatives

>>41412162
You best be meming boi. What made zyzz so great was the transformation he made and his general attitude on top of being a /fit/ user. His physique was good but not "one of the best". He had potential to have one of the best physiques but he was def too small as far as pro bodybuilding goes.

>>41413887
Like we told you in the last two threads, no it's not good for cutting.

>>41413887
Doesn't help you cut but I like it. Helps me sleep better and I feel like it's pretty good for you all around. I'd run it year round if I had enough of it.

>>41413929
(((We)))

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Have you guys taken that meme stack to increase cum volume? I already do HCG and lecithin, makes it so I can shoot like 20ml if I'm hydrated.

>>41413910
Stationary bike feels too easy imo. But wooboy does rowing and the stairmaster kill me.

>>41413685
>200mg ew
Y tho.

>>41413442
Youre not 5'11 m8

brehs I think I developed hip impingement in my left hip.

If surgery is unavoidable what's the best recovery stack? something like tb500 bpc157 and memek?

>>41413442
You look good what did you look like pre roids?

>>41413835
Swimming, cycling, rowing (don't bother honestly unless you have a real boat and literal Olympian teammates), basketball, skiing, sex

trt is making me impulsive and hungry total t 1300+ and estrogen in range please help?

>>41414042
>Stationary bike feels too easy imo. But wooboy does rowing and the stairmaster kill me.
try pushing harder on the pedals

>>41413442
you can never satisfy fraud, or fit for that matter.

when i posted one of my older pics and bs'd i was natty i got compliments in general and even from alex lmfao.

but if you even say 1 thing about steroids you either get

>roiding for this
>try lifting
>no way you're 6'

>>41414202
You're a faggot

>>41414296
yes but a high testosterone impulsive faggot

How can you control estro on 50mg trest ED?

Should i add tren at 50 ED to leave humanity behind?

>>41414460
same way you control estro on literally every other aromatizing compound

increase the AI

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>>41414288
if you're not 6feet, dont claim to be 6feet,

whoa~!
WHO KNEW?

>>41414564
wow its almost as if im

6ft?

WOW WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT

>>41413442
Plz work abs

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>>41414601
Arnold Schwarzeneggar claims to be 6'2 yet his closest friends claim he is 5'10

Most men inflate their height by 2"

I myself claim to be 6'2 although I'm only 6'1.

Its okay, youre always mommys big boy

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getting paranoid about losing [too much] muscle from dnpcardiostarve. I hope the tren does its job and with enough mental gymnastics I could convince myself most of it was fat in the first place

>>41414704
Dnp is muscle sparing and you're losing zero muscle whatsoever if you're on tren.

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>>41414717
thanks for the confidence boost famalam

>>41413920
Thats the fuck problem with pro bodybuilding today.
People want it to be about size when it should just be about aesthetics

500test e without AI put my e2 at 137 pg/ml
one week of asin 12.5mg ed put me at 94

Is it a fair guess that 25mg ed will put me around 51 pg/ml?

>>41414547
thanks for nothing nigga why do you even say something, when you ain't got nothing of value to add

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>>41414785
FUck off. There's different divisions

>>41414831
don't ask stupid questions

>>41414621

i'll always be your mommys big boy

>>41415000
My mother teaches pre school, so probably

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>>41414621
Did he honestly think no one would notice his huge moonboots?

>>41415000
>>41415019
Both of these posts do it for me.

>>41411455
>being safe while bench pressing makes me mad

typical tiny penis retard. "hurr safety is gay bro".

4chan is 18+ btw. you gotta fuck off for a few years before you get reported, squirt.

>>41412466
look at that weak chin, and beanie hat on inside. probably balding.

im sorry but when people post a body pic expecting everyone to be like WOAH DAMN HE WAS RIGHT just proves whatever point they were making

>>41415156
pins are pretty much the opposite of being safe actually

no pins lets you unload the bar by yourself if you ever trap yourself or have to do the roll of shame

not to mention he said 5kg plates lol

Looking for opinions on cruise dose, gonna be using Test E. Not sure if Test E is optimal for cruising vs. Cyp but it's all i have atm.

Was thinking of just 50mg E3D

>>41411444
sadik on a bulk? for a physique competitor he looks overgrown and kinda like shit desu desu

>>41415218
He's not a physique competitor anymore, that photo is also old

>>41415215
Enanthate and cypionate are functionally identical. 50mg e3d is a perfectly normal cruise dose

>>41415083
disgusting oedipus mommy fetish

no wonder you can only into one night stands, once a girl sees the true you she realize you're a giant manbabby boy inside who wants a mommy

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>>41415237
ty

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>>41415249
Stop getting triggered big boy

>>41412264
This is how most people feel healthcare should work

I'm sure you have it all worked out though, guy on 4chan

>>41412918
Aboy the kid

>>41415271
can't hear you over us living in the greatest country in the world

>>41415321
I live in America
It's not great compared to most countries I've been

>>41415362
fuck off commie

>>41414704
>>41414717
I just finished a cycle of test and am sitting around 16%bf. I've been looking at DNP as I don't want to lose too much muscle mass and get to around 10%. I can't for the life of my find a supplier though. Does anyone have suggestions on where to start looking?

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> stretch marks on my arm during cut
Cut! I'm supposed to cut! Not add muscle!

>>41415362
Pic related, You

>>41415413
>could find gear
>can't find dnp
wtf

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>>41413465
>>41413540
>>41413844
>>41414152
>>41414071
>>41414288
>>41414606


HAHAHAHAHAHAH WTF
i just came back after a few hours to all these triggered cucks.

im 5'11" 200 lbs you virgins, deal with it.

Haven't lurked in 4 months, what did I miss? Is estp kill? Cap banned still?

>>41414288
because you're a dyel faggot, that's why

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>cum now looks like vanilla cream
not a huge fan

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>>41415478
> 5'11

>>41415547
As opposed to what...
Fuck being shut down and jizzing clear

>>41414717
Does this mean I should be using more than like 250mg test while on DNP, just to be sure I'm not losing my gains?

>>41415535
estp babby
babby died
estp no longer whore
estp no longer drugs
estp no longer 4chan

cap still around sometimes

>>41415606
do you have any idea what muscle sparing means

>>41415608
Oh my God why am I laughing
Always knew someone would breed the bitch and ruin her. Details?

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>>41415596
>his cum has this color outside of dnp
would check that up m89

>>41411444
sadik has the most punchable face on the bodybuilder world holy shit he looks so fucking retarded lol

>>41413442
You look pretty good m8, don't know why the other anons are h8ing. Hope to reach your level some day.

>>41415362
I just traveled to 14 different countries in Europe the middle east and Asia and i can definitively tell you that the United States of America is the greatest God damn country on this green earth.

>>41415621
she started dating some guy a couple months back and they thought about doing camwhoring stuff together and a bunch of other degenerate shit

she ended up getting pregnant but she miscarried a couple of weeks later

>>41415621
who cares about some used up skank
get a life dude

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day 2 and I don't feel the anavar yet what gives I'm taking 75mg

its not winny so stop memeing

>>41415062
>a gay cartoon dog

>>41415688
we told you dog

we told you and you wouldn't believe us

in a couple days on top of your no anavar gains you're also gonna be shutdown lmao

>>41415672
you can get there from holocaust skelly mode with one cycle of test and dbol in 6 months

>>41412162
kek dingleberry is a fucking joke on a bodybuilder world. he has unbalanced muscles, shit chest insertions, hgh gut even though he isn't nearly as big as most hgh users, he uses fale weights and its so obvious it hurts, also his world reccord thing is retarded as fuck, he is jealous as fuck of bradley martyn fame and strength

>>41415688
75mg is a lot dude that's like a bodybuilder dose. you'd be fine with 50 mg as a beginner

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> go on bike ride
> its cold
> my ass is still sore from riding 2 days ago
> literally come home after 30 seconds on the bike
> get super tired
> no snacks
> no salsa
FML

>>41415688
>day 2
>i don't feel the anavar yet
of course motherfucker, you aint gonna feel shit on the second day, keep it at 50mg max, for a first cycle its still a lot, i'm gonna do my third anavar cycle and its going to be 30mg with 600mg/week of test e.

>>41415748
>my ass is still sore from riding 2 days ago
u wunt a massage bb

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>>41415768
>>41415736
so you're saying 50 mg for 6 weeks is better than 75mg for 4 weeks?

>>41415826
mmMm

>>41413442
What did you run?

>>41415413
buy more test and cruise for at least 4 months, do a huge cut for at least 1 month eating at 1500 cal/day and then eat at maintenance and do cardio for 1 hour or hiit for 20 minutes until the cruise stops, you'll lose a fucking lot of fat on the first month then you'll still lose fat and gain little muscle because of the test

>>41415802
it can be better if you bulk on protein on the whole 6 weeks and its also best for your health, its also even harder to get any side effects

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How much should anavar cost?

>>41415846
500 test, for 16 weeks

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>got my dna test results back

JUST

>>41415870
just wait for sources to have sales

I got mine for $25 for 25mg x 30

so like $75 for a cycle

>>41415886
Could you post a natty pic?

good lord this new Canadian source looks amateur

>less than 10 vials of tren a in stock

>>41415870
the median of the price all sources available to you, minus about 1-2 standard deviations

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Planning to by my shit for my first cycle in a few weeks, planning to do a 600 mg Test E cycle for 20 weeks.

Only concern is that family is going on vacation in July and I'm being dragged along. How do you hide your shit from people when you're going on vacation? Mind you they're especially nosey, so it's likely they would come across my stuff while rifling through my bag. Should I just hide it in my ass?

>lol this faggot complaining about getting to go on vacation

I'd rather stay home and work to get money, than travel with and be stuck in an enclosed space with my family, yeah.

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>>41415909
me natty body after 1 year of lifting

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>>41415890
I pray you didn't check that up on 23andme

>>41415921
mirin dat wallpaper

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>>41415925
promethease or w/e

>>41415921
you look the same as now LMAO

>>41415936
sounds better
>23andme's founder is married to google's founder, and sister to youtube's VP
the more you know

>>41415886
Good results. When is your 2nd & will it be as long?

>>41415921
I literally can't tell the difference

did you forget to eat?

>>41415921
this is good for nat. you seemed on ur way to making it. Roids gave u bigger delts (as expected) and arms abit, idk if the rewards will outweigh your risks. imo if u were set on using Roids id waited abit more, since your roid pics aren't too mind blowing.

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>>41411444
>Modern Sadik
What the fuck happened?
Seriously this kid used to have GOAT physique

Guys, i think it's about time to leave humanity behind. Im not happy with my mass and strength.

Blasting 500mg of test E /week (2 pins per week) should be fine for my first cycle? If i remember correctly test e takes 6 weeks before you start feeling the effects right? Im not sure about taking any orals for kick start becasue im scared this shit will give me acne right away.

Is recomping on gear a waste of time and steroids (i think i've read that somewhere)? Should i just try to clean bulk for that lean mass? Are there any specific routines for enhanced lifters? What would be better in terms of gains, splitting everything or doing fbw?

>>41415918
what do you expect us to say if you know they're gonna go through your shit?

depending on how long you leave for you could get away with one big injection before leaving and then just carry your AI in a regular pill bottle and say it's Tylenol or some shit.

>>41415921
Should have stuck with natty, you were gonna make it moose.

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>>41415944
>>41415952
>noticeably wider shoulders and bigger chest
>I can't tell the difference

Bruh

>>41415960
Sounds like you've done your research my dude. You should be clean bulking regardless, and I remember reading that routines focusing on higher reps are better, since your muscles would be getting bigger but your tendons would still have to catch up, and you could possibly fuck them up by going to heavy too quick. Anyone wanna backup or refute that claim?

>>41415965
Good point. I've thought about the big injection before hand, since it would only be a week that I'm away. But if I'm not at the end of my cycle, why would I need to take an AI? In case something goes wrong while I'm away? Plz inform, am still learning.

>>41415954
i was 76 kg in that pic, am now 86 kg after doing a little cut after my blast, and im leaner on top of that too.

thats 10kg of mostly lean muscle gain after my first cycle, im happy enough with that.

>roids only gave me abit of arm and shoulder gains
nigga pls, check my pic again and tell me only my arms and delts grew wtf >>41413442


>>41415951
my 2nd will be august, and i have no idea what im gonna run. I thought of tren but im kinda scared. Im prolly going to stick to test again and just up the dosage to 800mg or something.

>>41415959
wew one way to ruin yourself, he looked like a slayer in the past

>>41415977
thx anon, thing is i was 21 in that pic and i wanted to reach peak asthetics NOW and not in 3 years, hence the gear.

>>41416001
>4 months steroid cycle just to get slightly bigger chest and shoulders
>nothing else changes

eat food maybe faggot? lol

oh yeah you're "clean bulking" aka eating at maintenance or 200 above

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6'1 245lbs 18yo
lifts are 405/255/430 lbs

currently 4 weeks into a 24 week cycle of
250 test-e E3D
300 EQ E3D
1mg Adex E3D, was .5mg E3D until recently

Should I lower the test-e to 125mg E3D? I heard I will likely hold onto the mass just as well? How should I go about changing the dose? Can I just start pinning 0.5CC instead of a full 1CC?

>>41416047
I should add, I am cutting 1-2+lbs a week, for the entirety of this 24 week cut

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>>41416001
dont reply to the mean posters

mean posters, here have a pic of me when my tits were flared up

>>41416047
>24 week cycle

lol

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>>41416021
Yeah no kidding. He as a Greek God before

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Oookey .... I'm on 500mg test, 400mg tren and 20mg dbol. Should I up the tren and reduce the test maybe?

>>41416039
>i wanted to reach peak asthetics NOW and not in 3 years
Why?
Are you planning on only lifting for a few years or something?
I don't think the puffy nipples are really worth rushing progress for

>>41416059
>24 week cycle
>Not doing a 52 week cycle every year.

Wew

>>41416058
I can't help it, I'm sensitive

>>41416073
why? because i want to enjoy peak asthetics while im young, and not when im 28 yo.

im going to lift or atleast to some kind of exercise my entire life lmao, only cucks stop exercising.

i had these puffy nipps in that pic >>41416058 for maybe 3 days lmfao, chill

>>41416021
>I thought of tren but im kinda scared
Yeah, nandrolones are scary. I've read the metabolites permanently change the brain. Probably best to stick to test derivatives.

How's was your blood work (hb & hct) looking on 500mg?

>>41416093
>because i want to enjoy peak asthetics while im young
Is what other people think of you really that important in your day to day life?
>chill
Just asking questions, since I've never been able to get straight or well thought out answers from people that turn in the natty card. Most of them tend to take offense right away and start throwing around
>cuck
and
>stay mad
like a retarded baboon flinging it's own shit because it can't figure something out

>>41416059
>>41416077
can u give honest answer to >>41416047 though please. I can't run tren, I only have test and EQ. I am mostly concerned about testes shutdown and thinking a lower dose of test may be just as effective but not sure

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>>41416138
Sorry lad, I'm still working on starting my first cycle. Why would you wanna lower your test dosage anyway? I'm sure sticking with what you've got is fine, but you're better off asking someone else.

As long as you do proper PCT, you should be fine. I remember reading someone talk about stuff you can take for nut gains but I'm not sure what it is, sorry senpai.

>>41416059
I've been blasting for 27 weeks with no signs of stopping any time soon

problem?

>>41416047
>300 EQ E3D
How thick is your blood?

>>41416066
you're a moron

I bet this is your first cycle too

>>41416138
why in God's name are you doing a 24 weeks cut cycle on 500mg test 600mg eq

are you a retard? do you like wasting your time and gear?

>>41415249
Except women beg me to fuck them and I just left an 18 month relationship?

Everything else is pretty true but I'm more into the idea of making a woman a mother. I'm just attracted to a maternal instinct.

>>41413442
>>41415921
What should i do during my first ever cycle of 500mg test/week to not end up like this guy? He looks good but i really can't tell the differance between natty and ehanced.

>>41416135
>cuck
>stay mad
never called you any of these

im a human, i crave a well developed social envinronment. I want to have friends, i want woman to find me attractive, i want attention. Only idiots who deny their humanity think "lol idgaf about other people". So yes i care what other people think about me, to a certain extent. I of course dont give a fuck what these retarded anons think about me or my body, hence "extent".

Being jacked is awsome. When you are young its the best time to be jacked.

>just asking questions
well you said "I don't think the puffy nipples are really worth rushing progress for" as if im dealing with that shit forever. So i explained to you they were puffy for 3 days or something, nothing more.
Apart from a bit of acne i havent gotten any sides, but i had acne when i was natty to begin with.

Dont hesitate to ask questions, i enjoy answering them, just gotta take my wording not too seriously because i banter all the time

>>41416127
i literally dont know how to get bloodwork here in germany. Going to the doc is not an option

>>41416203
> why in God's name are you doing a 24 weeks cut cycle on 500mg test 600mg eq
> are you a retard? do you like wasting your time and gear?
Because I want to cut and keep my lean mass.

>>41416237
is this a joke? open both pictures in another tab and switch between them rapdily, he made a ton of gains.

>>41416239
>i literally dont know
figure it out. At least buy a home hemoglobin meter and test how thick your blood is. It's the most lethal part of aas

>>41416255
Moosey pls...

>>41416237
i know this is bait but you are not going to make much more gains than that on 500 test.

You should prolly bulk instead of staying at maintenance, like i did

>>41416239
Your attitude about it is just abrasive.

>>41416255
i just did that and i can't tell the differance. Maybe his delts are bit more pronounced but you have to look really hard to notice and it might be only lightning. His "progress" gave me second thoughts about hopping on gear.

>>41416273
>ate at maintenance on cycle

WTF

>>41416237
Start as a skeleton, the difference will seem much bigger.

>>41416237
don't eat pizza every day

actually eat food
>>41416245
and you thought you needed 500mg of test + 600mg of eq to keep your mass because....?

>>41416282
how big of a dick do I have to have to do gay porn

>>41416282
elaborate bimbsi

>>41416286

i gained 14 kg in that blast, nothing else i can say

>>41416304
his porn name is Scott Ambrose, look it up for yourself

(not very)

>>41416301
> and you thought you needed 500mg of test + 600mg of eq to keep your mass because....?
Thats a good question. I'm not sure why I thought that.

Should I drop the test to 125 E3D?

>>41416318
>i gained 14 kg
that's a lot of weight but it's not noticible at all (at least on those pictures)

>>41416330
honestly what you should have done is cut natty then bulk on cycle, but you've started now and there's no going back so whatever, just do some sub-par recomp shit

just 250mg of test is enough to keep all your gains while cutting, but you shouldn't run that just to cut. if you don't bnc, cut natty.

>>41416135
>like a retarded baboon flinging it's own shit
its, look it up

>>41416348
i think you are just bad at judging the progress. Everything in my body grew. neck, traps, back, arms, forearms, chest, lats. Just everything. I had no roid accuses when i was natty, and now after my blast i cant go to school anymore without people talking about steroids in my presence and refering to me jokingly.

I dont know man, the difference is obvious to me even in the pictures.

whatever

>>41416368
> honestly what you should have done is cut natty then bulk on cycle, but you've started now and there's no going back so whatever, just do some sub-par recomp shit
No, I already have enough muscle and I am overweight so I really have to cut, and with steroids to do it efficiently.

>>41416399
you grossly misunderstand how steroids work

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>>41416426
> cut natty
> look like this

>>41416502
when you're a cycling pleb you have to pick between enhanced cutting or enhanced bulking (or doing both on a much longer time frame)

now what do you think steroids are better suited for, creating mass during a bulk or preserving mass during a cut?

fucking 500mg test 600mg eq cycle to cut smH

>>41416398
It is hard to judge I'll admit.
Your stance is also not the same.

That said you can notice the finer details and I'll say that it looks good.

Everyone always thinks roid blow you up, they just tend to speed up your linear progression aside from delts really.

>>41416624
Just wanted to add that pictures really tend to fuck up with showing progression.
I hardly look that much different in posing pictures when in real life its a difference of day and night.

>>41416624
>>41416648
I think it's easier to just admit none of us are big instead of dissecting the nuances of posing and drug efficacy.

>>41416648
I disagree, day-to-day changes are a lot less noticeable than comparing two pics of yourself. I thought I hadn't changed at all until I saw two pics of myself and realized I went from tiny twink to actually aesthetic. when I look in the mirror I still see the tiny twink I used to be.

>>41415921
>>41413442
>>41412466
>>41415478

>manlet gets assmangled after people dump all over his shitty genes

lmaoing @ your life cuz

>>41416561
> when you're a cycling pleb you have to pick between enhanced cutting or enhanced bulking
I choose cutting, I am 245lbs right now, my goal weight is 180. I will look more than shredded at that point. But thanks for ur advice.

The reddit wiki recommends 200-400 test to cut, in addition some of them recommend tren which im not running, so EQ is fine

> creating mass during a bulk or preserving mass during a cut?
different goals different goals my man. ofc creating mass. not all of us can be mass monsters tho. some of us gotta cut.

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>>41415688
Who is that, her face is ridiculously cute? I take 100mg Ed and it gives me crazy vascularity, I look like Frank McGrath. What do you expect to "feel"?

>>41416835
>245
>goal 180
Christ, you don't need steroids, you need to learn to put the fork down. No wonder you need that much AI, your bf is what, 30%?

>>41416835
200-400 is too low imo, i'm jumping on 600mg/week for my first real cut, and after the cut i'm gonna blast 1g/week

Any stories of skellies going on the juice in this general?

>>41416910
Lmao 150mg test will preserve any dense tissue. Won't look big. Won't look full. But you won't lose mass.

>>41416910
you're a fucking moron stop

>>41416770
They only way I ever feel this way is if someone else takes a casual picture of me.
Only then I'll be able to see how big my arms got and how nicely my chest is filling out.

Maybe I focus way to much on the pose when trying to take a picture myself and end up giving up.

I constantly get shit jokes about roiding from colleagues but lots of compliments on the gains at the same time.

I feel like I'm heading towards some serious dysmorphia here.

>>41416966
bimbo, whats your opinion, how much test should I run? Stay at 250 E3D, or lower to 125?

What would the difference be? Pros? Cons? Pls halp

>>41417009
For what purpose i don't read posts so idk the issue

>>41417009
If your current dose is working and feels good, why lower?

>>41417097
Im just curious and insecure
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

> mfw extending a cycle nearly doubles the cost
who woulda thunk

Fuck

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>>41414042
You mean pic? I did this. Shit actually worked.

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>>41416058
Show us your penis baby.

>>41416058
OwO

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for $450 I can extend my cycle for 8 weeks. Y/N?

>>41417319
do it faggot

>>41417319
What the fuck are you cycling if 8 weeks costs almost half a grand? Trest and primo?

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>>41411444
OH my fucking god, I can't train obliques. I've tried to do wood choppers but I am so fucking retarded that it feels completely wrong every time I do it. What is the next best oblique training?

>>41417319
Where are you getting them?

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>tfw had a dream my ex-gf texted me
>she found out about my roid usage
>she thinks I'm doing it to win her back
>"Anon you don't need to do this. Think about your health and your family. You know I don't like big guys anyways."
>>"Shut up. You left me. You don't care about me. My health means nothing to me and I'm not doing this for you."

Whew buddy what a way to start the day. Can't wait for my tren. God damn it made me depressed though, subconscious telling me something.

>>41417360
PCT drugs man

>>41417401
oh you're gonna be a sane one on tren

>>41417402
>PCT

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>>41417396
grab your favorite dumbell and do side bends. best oblique exercise by FAR.

>>41417427
Hmm, interesting. I can do that even when I'm retarded. Thanks mate.

>>41417396
just train lats

>>41417436
np lad. look up how to do it properly or you might end up working out your lower back instead.

How many IU's total of HCG should I need for a 24 week cycle?

5000? 10000?

>>41417478
0

you don't need HCG.

>>41417478
lol

>>41417478
embrace your peanut balls, overstimulating your ball glands will ruin your natural LH levels which makes off cycle recovery worse

>>41417519
Test

>>41417519
>>41417489
>>41417486
not running during it, but during PCT.

Are you serious? None?

I am just running 550 test and 650 eq

>>41417619
you didn't specify that it was for you PCT. for the pct hcg is fine, just run 500 IU e3d and you will be fine. you can double the dose if you want to double the price as well

I thought my dick was dead because of my e2 but it turns out it was only because I have an std haha thank God!

>>41411455
Look out, you might cut yourself

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>tfw teenage gyno becomes more evident with lower bf%

>>41415960
>>41416001
I second the clean bulk part. Recomp can work but if it's you first cycle you wanna bulk to get those sweet virgin gains

>>41417934
i actually have minor gyno because i fucked up my pinning/ai too often.

im not worried about it, i just dont wanna take the nolva right now in the middle of the exams. fuck nolva brainfog.

>>41417934
>>41417966
Tren gave me some annoying gyno lump in my right pec.
Had symptoms of gyno and made the big mistake of using nolva while it was prolactin related.

A good 2 weeks of femara cleared it out though.

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>checking online to buy some new pins
>see this in the description.

i didnt knew they lubed pins, l-lewd...

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>>41416058
Okay if you won't show us your penis can you at least show us your bare ass?

>>41418075
That sounds amazing and useless at the same time.

Doesn't the pin just slide all the way in anyways once you've punctured the skin?

>>41418128
Not if you have scar tissue. But lube is unnecessary if you just push a drop or two of oil into the pin itself.

>>41418155
i have scar tissue on my right vg, anything i can do to get rid of that shit?

i already rotate between glutes, left vg and quads as much as i can.

>>41418170
S e r r a p e p t a s e

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>>41418212
sweet

>>41418170
Foam rolling and massaging helped for me.

I was dumb enough to pin my right glute over and over again first cycle.
It's almost back to normal after half a year of doing this daily.

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>have windows wide open
>34 F outside
>feeling chilly
>take dnp and feel the cozy heat spread throughout the body

>>41417424
I believe that a cosmic kike on a stick was the son of sky daddy and if I say sorry enough I get eternal life in paradise.

I'm well passed the point of sane.

>>41418285
I don't understand taking DNP in winter. You're getting lean so nobody can see it? Or at you just going to maintain leanness until summer?

>>41418310
well it's may and the temp goes as high as 62 here during the day, and will keep rising

How do guys on DNP lose 30lbs in 30 days and not suffer lose skin?

I want to lose 60-70lbs and I'm scared as fuck. I'm a 24 year old powerlifter and my doc told me I had to lose the weight because blood pressure meds and healthy lifestyle ain't keeping me in range.

>>41412590
Those clubs aren't gonna let you in unless your girl fucks too. That's the point of you know, swinging.

>>41418325
>doctor tells you to lose weight
>is on blood pressure meds
>tells himself he lives a healthy lifestyle

wew lad nice delusion you got going on

>>41418360
I-I think it was a joke anon

>>41418325
>>41418360
Also
>has 60-70lbs to lose
>worries about loose skin

lmao u fat fucker

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How do I go about starting my first test cycle?
I plan on 200-350mg/wk

>>41418365
read leddit wiki

>>41418365
No

>>41418325
you're that 24 weeks test/eq guy aren't you

>>41418388
>>41418363
>>41418360
Okay I AM the test/EQ guy and I'm not a 24 year old powerlifter on blood meds. I made that up.

But the weight part is serious

>>41418438
>>41418438
>>41418438

>>41418409

Sad m8

>>41415271

'most people' are delusional, in that case

someone is paying for healthcare even if it costs you nothing, and you're not entitled to their labor or their money simply because you exist

>>41415362

visiting tourist traps in western europe doesn't make you well-traveled, sorry